@@elliotmintzvideos hi Elliot, thanks for responding. I am a subscriber and have been enjoying your videos here and on your AMAZING website for a long time. I have learned so much from you. Really, you're a national treasure. Thank you for so generously sharing your life's work with the world!
having grown up in a family of manic narcissists, I am struck by the parallels between the the split true and objectified self of a celebrity, and the disavowed and grandiose self of the narcissist. In thinking about David Cassidy it seems inevitable to me that as a traumatized, insanely talented child of a malignant narcissist he would have a conflictual, and ultimately tragic relationship to his own celebrity. If only he had somehow been able to integrate these seperate parts of himself he might not have been so deeply tortured, and might have been able to take pride in his accomplishments. I can't shake such sadness when I think about him. As a high school english teacher of mine once said, I can't read Hamlet without hoping for a happy ending.
hi nadia. thank you for your profound observations. i gratefully differed to the professor in the 'fame report' interview......and upon reading your statement, choose to do so again. you strike some of the same responsive chords within me. as for david being able to separate his 'objectified self' from the residue of 'malignant narcissism', that's a tall order. further, david was dealing with the perceptual context of being perceived as a fictional chracter (keith partridge) with the public persona of the 'tortured artist' held captive by an illusion. the true 'david cassidy' was outnumbered. 'celebrity' never came with a handbook....and it frequently arrives when the host is comparatively young and always unprepared. i observed it decades ago and see examples of it today. fortunately, the public is beginning to accept the reality of mental imbalances with greater understanding than the way it once was. but we still have a long way to go. your further observations and analysis will be embraced on this page.
Wow, fascinating and ... terrifing ..also a great English lesson for me..I'm David Cassidy's fan so..when you think the kind of fame he had in the 70s and that he achived the greatest success at the beginning..He was telling that in many interviews, that he felt unworthy of that adulation. that he lost his identity , which David Cassidy was real ?. And it was also Keith Partridge to deal with....Being a fan , some fans.. the word fan comes from fanatic..Also I've found very interesting that part about passive suicide..Thank you very much for that discussion.
the doctors observations about 'fame'....especially her theory about the 'objectified self' is certainly applicable to david......although this conversation was recorded 30 years after the 'cassidy collection' was taped. david was not only wrestling with public adulation of the 'cassidy fame'. he was trying to deflect attention from keith partridge's fame. this put his efforts to be accepted as a serious and talented artist in third place. he had to fight to public 'identities' just to be 'heard'. a very complex dynamic.
thanks, lina. i felt the interviewer was far more perceptive and informative than me. but i'm happy you enjoyed the exchange. it was an important conversation to share.
This is good. Mintz and his interviewer are perceptive individuals. Brings to mind a statement by 19th century journalist Horace Greeley. He said something like "fame is a vapor, popularity an accident and money takes wings. The only thing that endures is character."
I've watched this interview 4 times. I find Elliot endlessly fascinating. His voice is one of a kind.
Elliot has been there, seen it all and lived to tell it how it is.
He doesn’t waste energy on the negative.
I think this is a worthwhile trait.
I love Elliot and Enjoy his Brilliant Observations .Very Inspiring
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Wow! Fascinating and fantastic discussion. Most enjoyable. I look forward to the rest of this.
hi greg. i am pleased you enjoyed the discussion.......and hopeful you have subscribed to this free channel.
@@elliotmintzvideos hi Elliot, thanks for responding. I am a subscriber and have been enjoying your videos here and on your AMAZING website for a long time. I have learned so much from you. Really, you're a national treasure. Thank you for so generously sharing your life's work with the world!
wish he would write a book or 2...his observations so fascinating
right now, i would prefer to kick back and read a book or two.
Fascinating conversation !!!
having grown up in a family of manic narcissists, I am struck by the parallels between the the split true and objectified self of a celebrity, and the disavowed and grandiose self of the narcissist. In thinking about David Cassidy it seems inevitable to me that as a traumatized, insanely talented child of a malignant narcissist he would have a conflictual, and ultimately tragic relationship to his own celebrity. If only he had somehow been able to integrate these seperate parts of himself he might not have been so deeply tortured, and might have been able to take pride in his accomplishments. I can't shake such sadness when I think about him. As a high school english teacher of mine once said, I can't read Hamlet without hoping for a happy ending.
hi nadia. thank you for your profound observations. i gratefully differed to the professor in the 'fame report' interview......and upon reading your statement, choose to do so again. you strike some of the same responsive chords within me. as for david being able to separate his 'objectified self' from the residue of 'malignant narcissism', that's a tall order. further, david was dealing with the perceptual context of being perceived as a fictional chracter (keith partridge) with the public persona of the 'tortured artist' held captive by an illusion. the true 'david cassidy' was outnumbered. 'celebrity' never came with a handbook....and it frequently arrives when the host is comparatively young and always unprepared. i observed it decades ago and see examples of it today. fortunately, the public is beginning to accept the reality of mental imbalances with greater understanding than the way it once was. but we still have a long way to go. your further observations and analysis will be embraced on this page.
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Wow, fascinating and ... terrifing ..also a great English lesson for me..I'm David Cassidy's fan so..when you think the kind of fame he had in the 70s and that he achived the greatest success at the beginning..He was telling that in many interviews, that he felt unworthy of that adulation. that he lost his identity , which David Cassidy was real ?. And it was also Keith Partridge to deal with....Being a fan , some fans.. the word fan comes from fanatic..Also I've found very interesting that part about passive suicide..Thank you very much for that discussion.
the doctors observations about 'fame'....especially her theory about the 'objectified self' is certainly applicable to david......although this conversation was recorded 30 years after the 'cassidy collection' was taped. david was not only wrestling with public adulation of the 'cassidy fame'. he was trying to deflect attention from keith partridge's fame. this put his efforts to be accepted as a serious and talented artist in third place. he had to fight to public 'identities' just to be 'heard'. a very complex dynamic.
Elliot a great interview 😁🇨🇦
thanks, lina. i felt the interviewer was far more perceptive and informative than me. but i'm happy you enjoyed the exchange. it was an important conversation to share.
This is good. Mintz and his interviewer are perceptive individuals. Brings to mind a statement by 19th century journalist Horace Greeley. He said something like "fame is a vapor, popularity an accident and money takes wings. The only thing that endures is character."
that is a great quote. thank you for sharing it to the channel.
The Beatles conquered the world so there were no goals left for them. They had to move on with new goals and by golly they conquered there too.
Gee, and I used to think FAME was fun????