I flew in the back seat of Mamie when she flew off of the IKE in 79. It was on emergency leave to fly home to burry my mom as a sailor. What memories of a C1.
In the way back I had the chance to ‘co-pilot’ a C-1. We (my Navy Commander Supply Officer boss & I) were to fly from Saigon to the delta for a meeting (in a now forgotten city). The C-1 was at that time considered a single pilot A/C. As a NFO (with a single engine ticket ... and I guess the pilot was board with flying with his ‘plane captain’) I was invited to the right seat. He made it clear that other than backing him up on holding the throttles on take-off I did not touch anything! Once airborne I had the controls … until landing. The only other recollection I have of those two flights was seeing B-52 bomb craters across defoliated ground and flying over a Bob Hope Christmas Show (closest I ever got).
Thanks Doug. This is a very special video for me as I was on the Indy in 76 and 77. Before that I was in VS-24 flying in S-2Gs as an Antisubmarine Warfare Operator. VS-24 was on the Intrepid and then the Saratoga. When they transitioned to the S-3, I got orders to several different duty stations and ended up on the Indy in the TSC. 6044 was the mail bird and I was always happy to see and hear the radial engines. What was really special is when you set her down in Davis's corn field just south of Roseville Illinois and only about 11 miles from my house. I heard on the local radio that a twin engine Navy plane had crash landed south of Roseville and when I went down to look the next morning, I could see the tail sticking up above the corn and knew instantly that it was a C-1 or an S-2. I was shocked to see an old friend 6044. When looking at the engines I also saw a very familiar sight. I was one of the test flight crewman for VS-24 and was on a test flight in July 1974 at Cecil Field Florida for an engine change. Right after lift off we got a chip light on the high time engine and started getting vibration. I was flying with 2 of the best pilots both LTCDRs. As we tried to climb and circle around to land, the new engine instantly came apart and locked up without being able to feather the prop. What was a right turn became a left turn and we hit the ground just short of the end of the runway we had just taken off from, with an F-4 coming right at us with his chute out. We did end up on the end of the runway needing some landing gear repairs and 2 new engines. We never got a scratch on us and I credit Grumman for building some of the most durable aircraft made for the Navy. It looked like a cylinder came apart for you as well and the S-2s and C-1s won't stay in the air very long with a prop that is not feathered. You made a nice short landing in the corn that day. I am glad to see that you were able to repair her and bring her back to life. By the way, I do have several pictures of old 6044 in the corn field from that day. Scott
Thanks a lot Doug. I was one of the crews that flew on that actual plane in VRC-40, 4 years and 4 months and over 400 flight hours. At that time as an Aircrew chief, I was able to fly right seats on long trips. I loved every minute of it. wish my wife could have handled my flying would have stayed for 20. It is great to see 044 still working. I loved starting those engines. I received my FAA mechanics License soon after that. Spent many years repairing and flying S2s and DC-3s and a few lodestars mixed in. 71 now and slowing down a little just have to get the horses trained?
I was stationed onboard the USS Independence from January 1969 to June 1971 as a Postal Clerk. Loaded and unloaded mail many times during that period. Flew off 1 time and trap landed 2 times in this plane. I have my honory Tail Hook membership card which brings back many fond memories. Great plane and great pilots.
I was one of the ship’s company PICs of Miss BELLE on Independence from ‘74 - ‘76. I consider it to have been a privilege. This truly is an aircraft that has to be flown thru all flight regimes and proves AND improves one’s piloting skills. A lot goes on and to care for especially in cold weather IFR. Must include BZs to the enlisted crewmen who maintained those cantankerous 1820s and vacuum tube avionics. One of the highlights of my aviation career.
These walk around tours are so insightful.The love for the aircraft always comes through the people doing the talk and this gentleman’s a great example of this.Thanks for these uploads.👍
I was assigned to the USS Independence (CVA-62), November, 1966; when she was on a Med deployment. I flew to Rota, Spain on TWA and the day after I landed in Rota I was flown to Barcelona, Spain to wait for transportation to the Indy. The ship's C-1A flew into Barcelona Airport and picked me and about 6 others and many mail bags for transportation to the ship. What a trip! I was on the USS America in 1970 when the C2's were grounded and we flew into Da Nang for a mission than flew back to the America on the same C1A. I had an interesting career in the Navy.
Hey, Bob Bob here too! I was one of the crews that flew on that actual plane in VRC-40 4 years and 4 months and over 400 flight hours. At that time as an Aircrew chief, I was able to fly right seats on long trips. I loved every minute of it. wish my wife could have handled my flying would have stayed for 20. It is great to see 044 still working. I can still since right where all the controls are as you sit in the seats. I loved starting those engines. I received my FAA mechanics License soon after that. Spent many years repairing and flying S2s and DC-3s and a few lodestars mixed in. 71 now and slowing down a little just have to get the horses trained?
Great video! Brings back a lot of good memories. I flew C1's with DVR-21 during the mid 60's before I transitioned to the C-2's. I remember changing the hook points during night quals on the carriers. Kept one engine running while I torqued and safety wired the hook point and then back into the aircraft for more landings and takeoffs. Great times! Thanks for the video.
Was TDY on the Independence in mid-late '70's to re-certify catapult and arresting systems after maintenance. This may be the very bird that catapulted me back to NATC Pax River after we completed our work on a Saturday afternoon. Thanks for sharing some stuff I didn't know. Go Navy! AMS 3 W. E. Huff, 1975 -1979
Thanks for the video. worked on the S2-E models while attached to VS-35 at North Island 1967-1970. We deployed on the USS Hornet CVS-12. AMS-3 R.M. Hampson 1966-1970
In 1967, 68 my old heavy squadron made a west pac cruise on the America . When ever Miss America was landing with mail they would play the “ here she comes Miss America “ song throughout the ship. Was always glad for that sound.
Tom Lutz : I flew off FDR 46 yrs ago in a C-1 Trader, COD. I was in VA-42 & we finished a Carrier Qualifiacation for the training pilots. They ask for 2 volunteers to fly in the COD. My hand went up real quick. That Cat shot was a “rush”. After the G force of the Cat was gone, I thought we were going into the water, but the COD just floated into the sky away from boat. What A Thrill !!!! I was also heloed off 2 other carriers, one in a huey & one in a HC-46 with about 20 others from my squadron. Exciting times ! I was in the U S N from 10/18/71 to 8/15/75. Got an early out to go to school ! My classes started 8/25/75, so I got 10 days to get home & settled & then get to school. From Minnesota.
Hi Doug, good vid. Thanks. This is George Kendall. I visit from time to time if you remember. I see you have the port nose gear bearing cover painted red. Good job on that. Most miss that detail. You have the interior looking pretty good; a lot better than when I flew them. I can't tell if you stuck with the genuine hide of a Nauga. It looks like you did. I also see you have kept the fold up center console. Some remove them. Keep up the good work Doug.
I flew as aircrew on the USS constellation COD 1973 to 1977 152553, on two westpacs. Deck launches and cat shots. When the ship was in the yards at Bremerton Washington. We flew out of the Kitsap County Airport. ADR2 Daniel Knopp
I flew these as a Crew Chief for VR-30 (the predecessor of VRC-30) out of NAS Alameda from 1975 for about 3 years and 500 hours. We supported all the west coast carriers with detachments on board or detachments at NAS North Island. Our North Island detachment became permanent, transitioned to C-2s and became VRC-30. The autopilots didn't work back then either and neither did the G-liitters. Great aircraft. I also crewchief'd the C-9s and Ct-39's for VR-30. But flying the C-1 was the best time and the best mission. We were tight crews and were scruffy and scrappy. Flying the 9's, we had to be pretty and polite; hated that. We COD crewman used to say, "Jets are for kids!"
In 1969 the Navy assigned me to VR-30. That should have never happened, I was an AO3 and the squadron had no billet for an AO. They stuck me on the third shift line crew washing airplanes. I hated it and put in a request chit for a transfer every day until they finally transferred me to the USS Oriskany CVA 34 after 9 months. I have no ill will toward the squadron, I served with some out standing men there, but I will always resent the Navy ever sending me there. It was a waste of 9 months of my life.
I flew off the Oriskany CVA-34 to DaNang Vietnam several times in a C-1. Would have been 1971 and 72 time frame. I wasn't aircrew just being shuttled back and forth to work on broke A7's that were from our Airwing. There was one landing I seem to remember that we landed on marshall matting but I can't remember if that was DaNang or somewhere else.
USS Independence CV-62 7/78 to 11/81. I had a cat shot in this plane (or one just like it) in April 1980, off of The Bahamas. Recovered at NAS Jax enroute to NAS Norfolk.
I was a air crewman for 146052 off USS Forrestal CVA 59. I had a deck launch off the angle deck, Full load, the pilots over busted the engines, above 56.5 And one cat launch off #1 cat at anchor.
Erik - Hope you are still around to read this. I just found this RUclips video and enjoyed it very much. I was one of the TAD enlisted aircrew (AW) that went to augment VRC-50 in Da Nang and I undoubtedly flew in this aircraft as crew. I was there from November 1972 until we bugged out in about March of 1973. If you get this message, I was wondering if your acquisition of the aircraft included any documentation from that era? Any flight records? I'm very interested because I have very little documentation of my time at Da Nang, and I am looking for anything at all that would put me there (for herbicide exposure VA claims). Thank you very much for the video - made this old man's day!!
My father was COD crew on USS Valley Forge (CVS-45) in the 1950s. They had several C-1As and a utility version of the A-1 I believe it was designated UA-1E that was used as a COD.
I logged 1,216 hours and 203 traps in 136759..... All off of Saratoga. By the way, fuel capacity is 528 gallons, 518 usable..... If you want to know anything about the aircraft or operations, ask me....
Corey Jordan....How were noise levels in cockpit at cruise..Seems like the engine nacelles are so close to cockpit it would be tremendously loud..how was single engine performance...This is such a neat looking aircraft..thank you
Apparently an American company is putting turboprops in several of these for the Brazilian Navy and calling them "KC-2 Turbo Trader". It will do refueling and COD work.
***** You really shouldn't, their are plenty of high wing aircraft with the controls mounted on a low pedestal between the seats, its just Grumman didn't do it.
I flew in the back seat of Mamie when she flew off of the IKE in 79. It was on emergency leave to fly home to burry my mom as a sailor. What memories of a C1.
Fantastic engine shot!
In the way back I had the chance to ‘co-pilot’ a C-1. We (my Navy Commander Supply Officer boss & I) were to fly from Saigon to the delta for a meeting (in a now forgotten city). The C-1 was at that time considered a single pilot A/C. As a NFO (with a single engine ticket ... and I guess the pilot was board with flying with his ‘plane captain’) I was invited to the right seat. He made it clear that other than backing him up on holding the throttles on take-off I did not touch anything! Once airborne I had the controls … until landing. The only other recollection I have of those two flights was seeing B-52 bomb craters across defoliated ground and flying over a Bob Hope Christmas Show (closest I ever got).
Thanks Doug. This is a very special video for me as I was on the Indy in 76 and 77. Before that I was in VS-24 flying in S-2Gs as an Antisubmarine Warfare Operator. VS-24 was on the Intrepid and then the Saratoga. When they transitioned to the S-3, I got orders to several different duty stations and ended up on the Indy in the TSC. 6044 was the mail bird and I was always happy to see and hear the radial engines. What was really special is when you set her down in Davis's corn field just south of Roseville Illinois and only about 11 miles from my house. I heard on the local radio that a twin engine Navy plane had crash landed south of Roseville and when I went down to look the next morning, I could see the tail sticking up above the corn and knew instantly that it was a C-1 or an S-2. I was shocked to see an old friend 6044. When looking at the engines I also saw a very familiar sight. I was one of the test flight crewman for VS-24 and was on a test flight in July 1974 at Cecil Field Florida for an engine change. Right after lift off we got a chip light on the high time engine and started getting vibration. I was flying with 2 of the best pilots both LTCDRs. As we tried to climb and circle around to land, the new engine instantly came apart and locked up without being able to feather the prop. What was a right turn became a left turn and we hit the ground just short of the end of the runway we had just taken off from, with an F-4 coming right at us with his chute out. We did end up on the end of the runway needing some landing gear repairs and 2 new engines. We never got a scratch on us and I credit Grumman for building some of the most durable aircraft made for the Navy. It looked like a cylinder came apart for you as well and the S-2s and C-1s won't stay in the air very long with a prop that is not feathered. You made a nice short landing in the corn that day. I am glad to see that you were able to repair her and bring her back to life. By the way, I do have several pictures of old 6044 in the corn field from that day. Scott
Thanks a lot Doug. I was one of the crews that flew on that actual plane in VRC-40, 4 years and 4 months and over 400 flight hours. At that time as an Aircrew chief, I was able to fly right seats on long trips. I loved every minute of it. wish my wife could have handled my flying would have stayed for 20. It is great to see 044 still working. I loved starting those engines. I received my FAA mechanics License soon after that. Spent many years repairing and flying S2s and DC-3s and a few lodestars mixed in. 71 now and slowing down a little just have to get the horses trained?
wow....I was an AC on the same plane Navy COD 66 Miss America back in the early 80's
I was stationed onboard the USS Independence from January 1969 to June 1971 as a Postal Clerk. Loaded and unloaded mail many times during that period. Flew off 1 time and trap landed 2 times in this plane. I have my honory Tail Hook membership card which brings back many fond memories. Great plane and great pilots.
I was one of the ship’s company PICs of Miss BELLE on Independence from ‘74 - ‘76. I consider it to have been a privilege. This truly is an aircraft that has to be flown thru all flight regimes and proves AND improves one’s piloting skills. A lot goes on and to care for especially in cold weather IFR. Must include BZs to the enlisted crewmen who maintained those cantankerous 1820s and vacuum tube avionics. One of the highlights of my aviation career.
What a beautiful aircraft. Lots of visibility. It must have been a dream to fly. Great job on keeping history airworthy
its more than wonderful. I love to see this little prince at inside. Thanks for showing.
These walk around tours are so insightful.The love for the aircraft always comes through the people doing the talk and this gentleman’s a great example of this.Thanks for these uploads.👍
Great aircraft. Love those big round radials !
I was assigned to the USS Independence (CVA-62), November, 1966; when she was on a Med deployment. I flew to Rota, Spain on TWA and the day after I landed in Rota I was flown to Barcelona, Spain to wait for transportation to the Indy. The ship's C-1A flew into Barcelona Airport and picked me and about 6 others and many mail bags for transportation to the ship. What a trip! I was on the USS America in 1970 when the C2's were grounded and we flew into Da Nang for a mission than flew back to the America on the same C1A. I had an interesting career in the Navy.
Interesante lo que cuentas. Saludos desde España. Interesting what you tell. Greetings from Spain.
Hey, Bob Bob here too! I was one of the crews that flew on that actual plane in VRC-40 4 years and 4 months and over 400 flight hours. At that time as an Aircrew chief, I was able to fly right seats on long trips. I loved every minute of it. wish my wife could have handled my flying would have stayed for 20. It is great to see 044 still working. I can still since right where all the controls are as you sit in the seats. I loved starting those engines. I received my FAA mechanics License soon after that. Spent many years repairing and flying S2s and DC-3s and a few lodestars mixed in. 71 now and slowing down a little just have to get the horses trained?
Great video! Brings back a lot of good memories. I flew C1's with DVR-21 during the mid 60's before I transitioned to the C-2's. I remember changing the hook points during night quals on the carriers. Kept one engine running while I torqued and safety wired the hook point and then back into the aircraft for more landings and takeoffs. Great times! Thanks for the video.
That's neat how the throttles are overhead why was that
@@aaronanstett8987 Because it is a high wing. Generally that is a shorter and easier run for the throttle cables and engine controls.
Was TDY on the Independence in mid-late '70's to re-certify catapult and arresting systems after maintenance. This may be the very bird that catapulted me back to NATC Pax River after we completed our work on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks for sharing some stuff I didn't know. Go Navy! AMS 3 W. E. Huff, 1975 -1979
Thanks for the video. worked on the S2-E models while attached to VS-35 at North Island 1967-1970. We deployed on the USS Hornet CVS-12. AMS-3 R.M. Hampson 1966-1970
I got launched off the USS Kitty Hawk in one of these in 1979. I flew to NAS North Island. What a great experience!
Just a beautiful aircraft thank you for showing it.
Great walk around vid and Thx to Mr. Goss for providing this video tour.
+556fullmetal Glad you liked it. thanks for watching it.
In 1967, 68 my old heavy squadron made a west pac cruise on the America . When ever Miss America was landing with mail they would play the “ here she comes Miss America “ song throughout the ship. Was always glad for that sound.
Good to see the inside again...flew on and off of CVA 42 about 55 years ago on the ship's COD.
Tom Lutz : I flew off FDR 46 yrs ago in a C-1 Trader, COD. I was in VA-42 & we finished a Carrier Qualifiacation for the training pilots. They ask for 2 volunteers to fly in the COD. My hand went up real quick. That Cat shot was a “rush”. After the G force of the Cat was gone, I thought we were going into the water, but the COD just floated into the sky away from boat. What A Thrill !!!! I was also heloed off 2 other carriers, one in a huey & one in a HC-46 with about 20 others from my squadron. Exciting times ! I was in the U S N from 10/18/71 to 8/15/75. Got an early out to go to school ! My classes started 8/25/75, so I got 10 days to get home & settled & then get to school. From Minnesota.
I spent many hours in 751 & 763 as a crew member in 1967 & 68 on board CVA 38, USS Shangri La. That was what I call fun, especially the cat shots.
Hi Doug, good vid. Thanks. This is George Kendall. I visit from time to time if you remember. I see you have the port nose gear bearing cover painted red. Good job on that. Most miss that detail. You have the interior looking pretty good; a lot better than when I flew them. I can't tell if you stuck with the genuine hide of a Nauga. It looks like you did. I also see you have kept the fold up center console. Some remove them. Keep up the good work Doug.
I got to see this yesterday at the north little rock airshow
I flew as aircrew on the USS constellation COD 1973 to 1977 152553, on two westpacs. Deck launches and cat shots. When the ship was in the yards at Bremerton Washington. We flew out of the Kitsap County Airport. ADR2 Daniel Knopp
AD and aircrew on 146043 assigned to USS America COD crew 1980-1983. Loved hearing this bird was 'Miss A' at one time.
I flew these as a Crew Chief for VR-30 (the predecessor of VRC-30) out of NAS Alameda from 1975 for about 3 years and 500 hours. We supported all the west coast carriers with detachments on board or detachments at NAS North Island. Our North Island detachment became permanent, transitioned to C-2s and became VRC-30. The autopilots didn't work back then either and neither did the G-liitters. Great aircraft. I also crewchief'd the C-9s and Ct-39's for VR-30. But flying the C-1 was the best time and the best mission. We were tight crews and were scruffy and scrappy. Flying the 9's, we had to be pretty and polite; hated that. We COD crewman used to say, "Jets are for kids!"
In 1969 the Navy assigned me to VR-30. That should have never happened, I was an AO3 and the squadron had no billet for an AO. They stuck me on the third shift line crew washing airplanes. I hated it and put in a request chit for a transfer every day until they finally transferred me to the USS Oriskany CVA 34 after 9 months. I have no ill will toward the squadron, I served with some out standing men there, but I will always resent the Navy ever sending me there. It was a waste of 9 months of my life.
Probably knew my dad Lieutenant Commander Clair Rolfe he was with VR30 from 71-78
That was my mail plane. Served with the 6th Fleet USS Nimitz 78-82. Deck Run.
The Champaign Aviation Museum received a flying example last year. You need to come back to Grimes and see it, Erik!
Courtney Hale Caillouet
I sure do buddy. Would be great to see y’all again!!
I flew off the Oriskany CVA-34 to DaNang Vietnam several times in a C-1. Would have been 1971 and 72 time frame. I wasn't aircrew just being shuttled back and forth to work on broke A7's that were from our Airwing. There was one landing I seem to remember that we landed on marshall matting but I can't remember if that was DaNang or somewhere else.
Flew aircrew 1974 to 1978 in VR-24 Loved the C1A , It is a long flight from Naples Italy To Rota Spain. But the layover in Plama was worth it.
Sweet little plane, only one I ever saw takeoff without a cat from the Coral Sea CV--43.
USS Independence CV-62 7/78 to 11/81. I had a cat shot in this plane (or one just like it) in April 1980, off of The Bahamas. Recovered at NAS Jax enroute to NAS Norfolk.
I was onboard the Indy from 74-78, spent my first two cruises working on the flight deck before transferring to AIMD.
I saw this plane grounded today at my local airport in Greenville TX
I was a air crewman for 146052 off USS Forrestal CVA 59. I had a deck launch off the angle deck, Full load, the pilots over busted the engines, above 56.5 And one cat launch off #1 cat at anchor.
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Thank you for your service!!
Erik - Hope you are still around to read this. I just found this RUclips video and enjoyed it very much. I was one of the TAD enlisted aircrew (AW) that went to augment VRC-50 in Da Nang and I undoubtedly flew in this aircraft as crew. I was there from November 1972 until we bugged out in about March of 1973. If you get this message, I was wondering if your acquisition of the aircraft included any documentation from that era? Any flight records? I'm very interested because I have very little documentation of my time at Da Nang, and I am looking for anything at all that would put me there (for herbicide exposure VA claims). Thank you very much for the video - made this old man's day!!
Too cool! Thanks so much for your service!
She served us well...Bless the aircrews, naval aviators...a cut above
I saw it several times in my career at NAS Norfolk and on the Nimitz. We had several attached to NAS Norfolk and at VRC-40 also at NAS Norfolk.
My father was COD crew on USS Valley Forge (CVS-45) in the 1950s. They had several C-1As and a utility version of the A-1 I believe it was designated UA-1E that was used as a COD.
Bravo.thenks
Worked on C1s with VRC-50 at Danang in 71. S2s with VS-35 at North Island 71-72.
Worked on this A/C for 3yrs at VRC30 NAS North island
I was on the Nimitz for 2 years and never saw this plane on it
Aircrew on C1-A 1972,73 USS Ranger.
I would to have flown in one of those. I reported to vrc 50 in 67 at Atsugi and they were phasing them out for the C2's.
This knows his stuff ...... Never ever walk thru the prop arc 👍‼️
It blows my mind that there were radial engine powered aircraft flying in the US military in my lifetime. I'm in my 30s.
Can these planes be flown single pilot?
VRC40 landed a C-1 catching a wire with the tail hook and also the nose gear got caught in a wire. It stopped it in just a few feet.
I logged 1,216 hours and 203 traps in 136759..... All off of Saratoga. By the way, fuel capacity is 528 gallons, 518 usable..... If you want to know anything about the aircraft or operations, ask me....
Corey Jordan....How were noise levels in cockpit at cruise..Seems like the engine nacelles are so close to cockpit it would be tremendously loud..how was single engine performance...This is such a neat looking aircraft..thank you
I worked on that bird when it was a VR-24 bird
There to park now
What are the main deferences between the Trader and Tracker
Found one of these at Lake # 5 in Northern California, west of Lake Tahoe. Crashed, burned. All fatal.
Precioso!!
Apparently an American company is putting turboprops in several of these for the Brazilian Navy and calling them "KC-2 Turbo Trader". It will do refueling and COD work.
Em breve o C-1 Trader estará voando na Marinha do Brasil
This is cool and thanks for the info but why use a weird lends like that
BecUse that’s what I had at the time. And it’s “Lens”
Iron Works!
So how do you convert this into a PUFF Bird?
Soon the C-1 Trader will be flying in the Brazilian Navy
Every last hour and dollar was squeezed out of the C-1.
Side Number, I recall. (62)
Why are the throttles, etc., on this plane and other seaplanes on the ceiling and not the console? Just curious.
Because its a high wing design, and thats the most direct routing for the controls, the Grumman seaplanes are the same way.
Thanks... makes perfect sense. I feel stupid now!
***** You really shouldn't, their are plenty of high wing aircraft with the controls mounted on a low pedestal between the seats, its just Grumman didn't do it.
Thanks. I appreciate that. Nice to have a comment (or 2) that is both informative and respectful.
I agree, great explanation. Thanks for watching the video guys, hope you liked it
How do I get a ride in one? I've got almost 3,000 hours in the C-2.