Thanks… I try not to over-sell anything but sometimes I can’t hide my joy 😂. I Yeah for the price on these, unless I already used a pipe wrench all day every day…I’m not sure I’d spend the money to upgrade. Now if I didn’t have either and was buying one from the get go, I like the rapid adjust. What you said is right for all tools though… something I use all day isn’t useful to a lot of people and vice versa. You always have to look at every tool and think, “How can I use that” Thanks for your thoughts 👍
I have a Knipex pipe wrench like these and a Ridgid 12". I like both. The Knipex is the most practical and light weight. The Ridgid is all about being heavy duty.
Yeah… I feel like there is a place for both if you just like having tools and the “better tool for certain jobs” You can get by with either, but both is best.
I'm NOT a plumber, thus need all the help I can get. It's always a struggle for me to set a standard pipe wrench corrcectly the first time. I'm hoping the Knipex will solve the problem. Thanks for the tip on opening the handle slightly when initially setting up.
As a plumber I love the way pipe wrenches feel to use having the 2 handles seems more annoying than it is to adjust my ridgid cool tool though I love knipex
Yeah the two handles would take some getting used to… that’s why to me I would look at it as a bigger cobra more than a pipe wrench. Thanks for the feedback, I wondered what some plumbers would think. I only use pipe wrenches occasionally.
I've got that giant set of cobras, they certainly are expensive. They're good just like the regular cobras, but I think I have used them once? It's handy to have when you need a big set, but I don't know if I would buy them again. I would probably use a giant set of pliers wrenches more and wish they had those when I was looking to drop a couple hundred bucks on the big cobras
@MM Thanks for making this comparison video. Have you picked up the 22” cobras yet? I just saw they’re 70€ on Amazon Deutschland compared to $122 on Amazon.
@MORGANSMaintenance A pair of 22” cobras seems like a good way to celebrate 20k subscribers. Or maybe when you hit 22k subscribers? Also, I think the Knipex electrical installation pliers and forged wire strippers on Amazon Deutschland have the same size wire strippers as the American versions, but just have European wire size labeling. I’m not 100% sure though, since it’s difficult to find a good conversion chart between American and European wire sizes.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Yeah, I was able to do the size conversion, and it looks like the wire stripper holes in the European forged wire strippers and electrical installation pliers aren't the same as the American ones. I'm putting together an AMZN DEU order soon, so I may just order both anyway, since European-made tools are generally half-price compared to AMZN USA. BTW, have you seen VDE handle forged wire strippers with the spring in the handle? I've looked for them a few times, but I can't find any, so I think they don't make them with VDE handles and the spring together.
As a farmer, I doubt if this wrench can perform as well as my good old Ridgid wrench. I don't think it will survive the mud and little stones. Another flaw, you can't change just the jaws. I would like to try it though. Would it stay locked on a pipe in all positions?
Once you get it gripped it holds pretty well without having to squeeze the handles… once you pull back it sort of lets go. I agree with you. I personally feel like these are more a big, hefty pair of channellocks… and not a pipe wrench replacement.
As a farmer I'd say you probably help out your pipe wrench from time to time with a hammer. Sometimes helps to break loose stubborn things lol. I don't know if the knipex would be well suited to the abuses we throw at simpler tools sometimes
Do you think the knipex would last a torture test the same? That would be my thought. I love my knipex tools but a standard pipe wrench can take a beating. And for home defense give one!
It is very well built… I would call it a beefy set of Cobra pliers more than a replacement for your standard pipe wrench… just because you can beat on a standard wrench with a hammer, use a big cheater bar, etc… It’s a nice tool, but it’s not going to do everything a standard pipe wrench can do… but I would think it’s good enough to knock someone out 😂
Yeah I don’t see it as a pipe wrench replacement but a beefy cobra. You don’t have to squeeze the handles once it bites, but I still like the old pipe wrench you don’t have to worry about that at all.
do you mind weighing the knipex mate? amazon say 1.47 grams but that makes no sense. also does the mechanism let you use a cheater bar on just the back handle, or do you need to grip both to torque something? thanks.
My scale says 3.6 lbs. (not a fancy scale). They work similar to the cobras in that once the teeth are engaged you can press down only on the larger or the two handles and it stays on (Hope that makes sense). Once you pull back it will let go. So as long as you have pressure you should be able to just put a cheater on the bigger handle. That’s why to me these aren’t as much a pipe wrench but a bigger cobra (which I use my cobras on pipes) Hope that helps.
My initial comment vanished. Probably I used some taboo words. Classic Stillson wrenches are really durable, but they weight a tonne. Knipex has better capacity/weight ratio. For DYI user it may not matter, but if you have a service bag/box filled with pipe wrenches every kilogram less is a life saver. Stillsons are easier to use with pipe extension. With Knipex it's doable, but less comfortable. Knipex jaw shape is different in Cobras cos they're more multipurpose. "S" shaped jaws (like in that rapid adjust wrench) are much better at gripping the pipes. Their main target are plumbers. As I mentioned before, try Knipex SmartGrip. You'll question your life choices regarding wrenches.
Yeah I think the extension would be easier with your standard pipe wrench… Sending me to the Smart Grip worm hole might put me in a whole new way of debt. I actually noticed them scrolling through Amazon a few weeks ago and have been meaning to read up on them. I have not seen a pair in action or in person.
@@MORGANSMaintenance They come only in 10" size and that's the only disadvantage. How it works - spring loaded mechanism makes the wrench automatically adjust to the diameter. It's fantastic.
@@Stefan_Kawalec It something in their app… I clicked on the last notification and there wasn’t a comment. I went back and clicked on the notification on your first comment and it was there…. Who knows.
It took me about 5 min to remember that Knipex is German. I'd have to try these out to see if I like them but I've been happy with all the Knipex tools I own so I don't see why this one would be different.
Yeah they are pretty solid… I don’t run into needing big pipe wrenches that often anymore. I like regular pipe wrenches too but they definitely adjust faster. They grip on stuff just like the Cobras do. I just keep these in my truck now for the “just in case” … 10” cobras normally do all I need.
Not very Swedish that Knipex. A Bahco/Johansson style pipe wrench would be Swedish though. (Bahco/Johansson being the originators of what you in the US call a Crescent wrench.)
Yeah several companies look like they have a version of this style head under “Swedish Pipe Wrench” I have heard and have a couple Bahco tools… don’t think I’ve seen any Johansson but I really just started finding Non-US (or China) tools in the last few years.
@@philchristmas4071 this is a little bit different tool. More like a big channel lock in my opinion, but if you need a Pipe wrench Ridgid makes good ones 👍
I understand that… I can’t get any good tools locally so I have to get them online 90% of the time. I have bought several tools from Haus of Tools lately. They have been pretty good. Where do you buy your tools? Always looking for good places to watch for deals.
Unless the item is exclusive , I NEVER buy from them . Even then , you may still find it on EBay , open box or NOS . There are also plenty of small businesses online or on Ebay that can use the income at the same or less cost .
@@billsmith2212 I buy from a multitude of people, mostly based on price and free shipping (occasionally on how fast I can get it if it’s something specific). Sometimes you have to wait and order a few tools from a smaller place to get to a free shipping threshold, but can usually get the price comparable.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I sometimes get lucky on Ebay . There are places that buy out overstock of inventory from a closed business . As long as the items are listed as new with all the instructions and accessories , there are finds . I would be very cautious buying items online from a pawnshop . The fine print can really mean " as is " , no return .
@@billsmith2212 I get some tools on EBay, I have had luck with a few Milwaukee Tools on Facebook through a group called Milwaukee Tool Deals. A lot of overstock seller on there and you pay through PayPal Goods & Services.
Beautiful quote: Money can't buy happiness...It describes my thoughts perfectly.
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I appreciate you not trying to over-sell it just because it’s Knipex. Seems like it could be useful for the right person though. Thanks.
Thanks… I try not to over-sell anything but sometimes I can’t hide my joy 😂. I
Yeah for the price on these, unless I already used a pipe wrench all day every day…I’m not sure I’d spend the money to upgrade.
Now if I didn’t have either and was buying one from the get go, I like the rapid adjust.
What you said is right for all tools though… something I use all day isn’t useful to a lot of people and vice versa. You always have to look at every tool and think, “How can I use that”
Thanks for your thoughts 👍
I have a Knipex pipe wrench like these and a Ridgid 12".
I like both. The Knipex is the most practical and light weight. The Ridgid is all about being heavy duty.
Yeah… I feel like there is a place for both if you just like having tools and the “better tool for certain jobs”
You can get by with either, but both is best.
I'm NOT a plumber, thus need all the help I can get. It's always a struggle for me to set a standard pipe wrench corrcectly the first time. I'm hoping the Knipex will solve the problem. Thanks for the tip on opening the handle slightly when initially setting up.
You are welcome. Glad that I could help 👍
I’m loving your Klein tools coffee thermos.
I get a lot of comments on it 👍
As a plumber I love the way pipe wrenches feel to use having the 2 handles seems more annoying than it is to adjust my ridgid cool tool though I love knipex
Yeah the two handles would take some getting used to… that’s why to me I would look at it as a bigger cobra more than a pipe wrench.
Thanks for the feedback, I wondered what some plumbers would think. I only use pipe wrenches occasionally.
Yes, they are PLIERS not a wrench. Took 6 minutes before he picked it up so as I could establish that
Great video, never knew about opening the Knipex handles just a little bit when adjusting them!
Appreciate you watching. It’s something I have found helps me, Hope it helps you 👍
I've got that giant set of cobras, they certainly are expensive. They're good just like the regular cobras, but I think I have used them once? It's handy to have when you need a big set, but I don't know if I would buy them again. I would probably use a giant set of pliers wrenches more and wish they had those when I was looking to drop a couple hundred bucks on the big cobras
@@Kevin-ip8uf yeah I absolutely don’t need the big set… it’s more of a “I want to feel manly” 😂
@MM Thanks for making this comparison video. Have you picked up the 22” cobras yet? I just saw they’re 70€ on Amazon Deutschland compared to $122 on Amazon.
@@k1_w3 no I haven’t picked them up yet… they will be more of a cool tool pick up for me than a need a set, but I do want them
@MORGANSMaintenance A pair of 22” cobras seems like a good way to celebrate 20k subscribers. Or maybe when you hit 22k subscribers?
Also, I think the Knipex electrical installation pliers and forged wire strippers on Amazon Deutschland have the same size wire strippers as the American versions, but just have European wire size labeling. I’m not 100% sure though, since it’s difficult to find a good conversion chart between American and European wire sizes.
@@k1_w3 I’ve heard both ways on the wire strippers… that they aren’t a match and that they are, hard to know till you have them on hand I think
@@MORGANSMaintenance Yeah, I was able to do the size conversion, and it looks like the wire stripper holes in the European forged wire strippers and electrical installation pliers aren't the same as the American ones. I'm putting together an AMZN DEU order soon, so I may just order both anyway, since European-made tools are generally half-price compared to AMZN USA. BTW, have you seen VDE handle forged wire strippers with the spring in the handle? I've looked for them a few times, but I can't find any, so I think they don't make them with VDE handles and the spring together.
@@k1_w3 I’ve seen the spring version on the European Electrical Installation plier and not on the US versions.
As a farmer, I doubt if this wrench can perform as well as my good old Ridgid wrench. I don't think it will survive the mud and little stones.
Another flaw, you can't change just the jaws.
I would like to try it though.
Would it stay locked on a pipe in all positions?
Once you get it gripped it holds pretty well without having to squeeze the handles… once you pull back it sort of lets go.
I agree with you. I personally feel like these are more a big, hefty pair of channellocks… and not a pipe wrench replacement.
As a farmer I'd say you probably help out your pipe wrench from time to time with a hammer. Sometimes helps to break loose stubborn things lol. I don't know if the knipex would be well suited to the abuses we throw at simpler tools sometimes
Do you think the knipex would last a torture test the same? That would be my thought. I love my knipex tools but a standard pipe wrench can take a beating. And for home defense give one!
It is very well built… I would call it a beefy set of Cobra pliers more than a replacement for your standard pipe wrench… just because you can beat on a standard wrench with a hammer, use a big cheater bar, etc…
It’s a nice tool, but it’s not going to do everything a standard pipe wrench can do… but I would think it’s good enough to knock someone out 😂
Well explained and looks pretty handy and well built. But I think I’ll stick with old standby…. Ridgid.
Yeah I don’t see it as a pipe wrench replacement but a beefy cobra. You don’t have to squeeze the handles once it bites, but I still like the old pipe wrench you don’t have to worry about that at all.
do you mind weighing the knipex mate? amazon say 1.47 grams but that makes no sense. also does the mechanism let you use a cheater bar on just the back handle, or do you need to grip both to torque something? thanks.
My scale says 3.6 lbs. (not a fancy scale).
They work similar to the cobras in that once the teeth are engaged you can press down only on the larger or the two handles and it stays on (Hope that makes sense). Once you pull back it will let go. So as long as you have pressure you should be able to just put a cheater on the bigger handle.
That’s why to me these aren’t as much a pipe wrench but a bigger cobra (which I use my cobras on pipes)
Hope that helps.
Knipex is a German manufacturer although the inventor of that type as the Knipex was a swede .
Thanks for the info 👍
My initial comment vanished. Probably I used some taboo words.
Classic Stillson wrenches are really durable, but they weight a tonne. Knipex has better capacity/weight ratio. For DYI user it may not matter, but if you have a service bag/box filled with pipe wrenches every kilogram less is a life saver. Stillsons are easier to use with pipe extension. With Knipex it's doable, but less comfortable.
Knipex jaw shape is different in Cobras cos they're more multipurpose. "S" shaped jaws (like in that rapid adjust wrench) are much better at gripping the pipes. Their main target are plumbers.
As I mentioned before, try Knipex SmartGrip. You'll question your life choices regarding wrenches.
Yeah I think the extension would be easier with your standard pipe wrench…
Sending me to the Smart Grip worm hole might put me in a whole new way of debt. I actually noticed them scrolling through Amazon a few weeks ago and have been meaning to read up on them. I have not seen a pair in action or in person.
@@MORGANSMaintenance They come only in 10" size and that's the only disadvantage. How it works - spring loaded mechanism makes the wrench automatically adjust to the diameter. It's fantastic.
@@Stefan_Kawalec your comment is back today… who knows what’s going on?
@@MORGANSMaintenance Maybe algorithm marked my comments as advertising?
@@Stefan_Kawalec It something in their app… I clicked on the last notification and there wasn’t a comment. I went back and clicked on the notification on your first comment and it was there…. Who knows.
The Jaw looks thinner on the knipex could be useful when you don't have alot of room
Yeah it may be a little thinner. I feel like this is more like an extreme pair of channellocks than a pipe wrench, but it is a good tool.
Pretty neat, not sure I will be buying one though
Yeah they are pretty pricey if you don’t use them often. I personally don’t use a pipe wrench that often anymore… at least not big ones anyway.
It took me about 5 min to remember that Knipex is German.
I'd have to try these out to see if I like them but I've been happy with all the Knipex tools I own so I don't see why this one would be different.
Yeah they are pretty solid… I don’t run into needing big pipe wrenches that often anymore. I like regular pipe wrenches too but they definitely adjust faster. They grip on stuff just like the Cobras do.
I just keep these in my truck now for the “just in case” … 10” cobras normally do all I need.
6 minutes into the video before he picks up the tool and I'm finally able to establish they are pliers not a wrench. JESUS
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It's a Swedish pipe wrench
you sound congested dude. cool pipe wrench
Yeah the weather changing has me worked up I think.
Not very Swedish that Knipex. A Bahco/Johansson style pipe wrench would be Swedish though. (Bahco/Johansson being the originators of what you in the US call a Crescent wrench.)
Yeah several companies look like they have a version of this style head under “Swedish Pipe Wrench”
I have heard and have a couple Bahco tools… don’t think I’ve seen any Johansson but I really just started finding Non-US (or China) tools in the last few years.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Bahco is the company. Johansson is the inventor/innovator. Not Jo block Johansson. Another Johansson.
@@beru58 oh ok, gotcha. I may have figured that out if I started searching for Johansson tools… but thanks for clearing that up.
Buy 🇺🇸 made Rigid pipe wrenches. They are the best and support your fellow Americans.
@@philchristmas4071 this is a little bit different tool. More like a big channel lock in my opinion, but if you need a Pipe wrench Ridgid makes good ones 👍
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I boycott amazon
I understand that… I can’t get any good tools locally so I have to get them online 90% of the time.
I have bought several tools from Haus of Tools lately. They have been pretty good.
Where do you buy your tools? Always looking for good places to watch for deals.
Unless the item is exclusive , I NEVER buy from them . Even then , you may still find it on EBay , open box or NOS . There are also plenty of small businesses online or on Ebay that can use the income at the same or less cost .
@@billsmith2212 I buy from a multitude of people, mostly based on price and free shipping (occasionally on how fast I can get it if it’s something specific). Sometimes you have to wait and order a few tools from a smaller place to get to a free shipping threshold, but can usually get the price comparable.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I sometimes get lucky on Ebay . There are places that buy out overstock of inventory from a closed business . As long as the items are listed as new with all the instructions and accessories , there are finds . I would be very cautious buying items online from a pawnshop . The fine print can really mean " as is " , no return .
@@billsmith2212 I get some tools on EBay,
I have had luck with a few Milwaukee Tools on Facebook through a group called Milwaukee Tool Deals. A lot of overstock seller on there and you pay through PayPal Goods & Services.