I found that RGB separations produce images with more natural colour than colour film. The real advantage though, is that by storing the colour information as silver negatives it won't fade or shift over time. I think the cast is from underexposing through the green filter or maybe overexposing through red. At least you're not letting the film go to waste!
As soon as I get some cash I'm buying dye couplers to do it in colour. Stephen Frizza published a formula for his Kodachrome results way back in 2011 iirc so Ill be attempting that in the next year or 2 hopefully
@@atticdarkroom and what I'm noticing is that most of the people in the comments agree with me and they instantly subscribe when they watch your videos!
What if you try trichroming by actually dyeing the negatives of the opposite colour of the filter like in the technicolor process? And also building a camera that shoots three bw photos at once with the filters so you get three identical photos. Technicolor cameras did that using a prism that separated light in three lines, hitting filters and the film
I never considered dying the film, I really like that idea I'll have to look into that. And while I would love to build a Technicolor camera, I have enough troubles cobbling together a pinhole camera as it is. I would love to try it though. Maybe down the road.
Only way I see Kodachrome being resurrected is if Kodak somehow figures out a way to formulate a similar looking emulsion but processed in E-6. Given the success of Ektachrome it could be possible but not in Kodak's main interests at the moment.
if you had a camera with three interchangeable film backs, you could do your trichrome on three separate rolls. Then, you could process them with a B&W reversal process -- except instead of bleaching the silver negative image, fogging, and redeveloping, you'd fog, then develop in a second developer with a color dye coupler added -- red for the red filtered roll, blue for the blue filtered, and -- well, you get the idea. Following the second development, you'd then apply C-41 bleach and fixer to remove all the silver, and for direct viewing or projection you could even sandwich the three positives into a single mount. I mean, if ordinary trichrome isn't enough unnecessary effort...
So I have exposed Kodachrome 25 and 64 and what I need is black and white POSITIVES out of it as they were shot in stereo and I want to be able to mount them as stereo slides to view in a stereo viewer. What's the best way to get to this?
Although 've been aware of this process... the effort seemed tedious. Are there specific filters..ie ratings for the RGB? I generally scan my B&W negatives... how would I proceed to get the color? Would I have to sandwich them .. and scan the three simultaneously? ? The registration seems daunting.
He made a video explaining the steps he takes and needed gear for the trichrome process. It's three specific filters although I think you could probably use gels? The combination of color comes in photoshop, each image is opened as a greyscale file and then turned into a color channel for a single RGB image (all the registration and alignment is done at that point).
I really don't understand why people are afraid of remjet. all you need to do is get a dollar store sponge, cut it in half, wet the sponge, and it'll pull the extra bits off.
@@atticdarkroom wtf? Pretty sure that the filter is carey lea silver which I've never seen come off in standard BnW. From the Kodachrome ive processed its always had that layer still on. I have only used Kodachrome 200 also in D76 so it must be specific to that stock
Interesting. Would those results look really dense? I've seen other people try this and get heavily dense/fogged results and I always assumed it was the film not being stored correctly. And for reference I used Kodachrome 64. Pre DX Kodak 5032 to be specific.
Dude I am so obsessed with your channel! You’re so underrated!
Thanks, I really appreciate it!
@@atticdarkroom No problem at all! You've given me some inspiration to try out trichrome!
I found that RGB separations produce images with more natural colour than colour film. The real advantage though, is that by storing the colour information as silver negatives it won't fade or shift over time.
I think the cast is from underexposing through the green filter or maybe overexposing through red.
At least you're not letting the film go to waste!
that slight portra shade was hilarious and very much appreciated.
As soon as I get some cash I'm buying dye couplers to do it in colour.
Stephen Frizza published a formula for his Kodachrome results way back in 2011 iirc so Ill be attempting that in the next year or 2 hopefully
I remember reading about this a while ago but forgot. Thanks for reminding me.
That moment you watch a RUclips video and recognize locations as a place you hike all the time. Glad I found your channel.
Cool idea! I always found trichrome to be a big pain but I like how you find a lot of unique work arounds with it
It is a pain, but my secret is stubbornness. I just keep at it and something good will happen eventually.
For a second I thought you had deleted your channel, please keep making content, every video is awesome!
Thanks man. And dont worry, this channel isn't going anywhere.
This is quickly becoming my favorite film channel!!
I discovered this channel today and I fell in love with it, keep it up, you deserve 100k subscribers, I'm watching al your videos
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
@@atticdarkroom and what I'm noticing is that most of the people in the comments agree with me and they instantly subscribe when they watch your videos!
your videos are always so fun to watch and i always learn a few things from them! thank you!
What if you try trichroming by actually dyeing the negatives of the opposite colour of the filter like in the technicolor process? And also building a camera that shoots three bw photos at once with the filters so you get three identical photos. Technicolor cameras did that using a prism that separated light in three lines, hitting filters and the film
I never considered dying the film, I really like that idea I'll have to look into that.
And while I would love to build a Technicolor camera, I have enough troubles cobbling together a pinhole camera as it is. I would love to try it though. Maybe down the road.
Only way I see Kodachrome being resurrected is if Kodak somehow figures out a way to formulate a similar looking emulsion but processed in E-6. Given the success of Ektachrome it could be possible but not in Kodak's main interests at the moment.
What an amazing idea! I have some Kodachrome 64 on my hand but never thought of this. Your video made a great inspiration!
This is such a cool channel, really great stuff man.
Opening slide (0:12) looked familiar -- Really! Coronodo Heights!! One of the lesser known sights in Kansas . (Google it!)
if you had a camera with three interchangeable film backs, you could do your trichrome on three separate rolls. Then, you could process them with a B&W reversal process -- except instead of bleaching the silver negative image, fogging, and redeveloping, you'd fog, then develop in a second developer with a color dye coupler added -- red for the red filtered roll, blue for the blue filtered, and -- well, you get the idea. Following the second development, you'd then apply C-41 bleach and fixer to remove all the silver, and for direct viewing or projection you could even sandwich the three positives into a single mount.
I mean, if ordinary trichrome isn't enough unnecessary effort...
I like this idea a lot. I'll need to do a bit more research. Thanks!
So I have exposed Kodachrome 25 and 64 and what I need is black and white POSITIVES out of it as they were shot in stereo and I want to be able to mount them as stereo slides to view in a stereo viewer. What's the best way to get to this?
I miss that film :((
any equivalents that work well with E6 or that have nice colors in C41 or ECN2
I'm wondering if you could dye three frames of film shot with separate filter and stick them together to get a tripack color slide film😂
Although 've been aware of this process... the effort seemed tedious. Are there specific filters..ie ratings for the RGB? I generally scan my B&W negatives... how would I proceed to get the color? Would I have to sandwich them .. and scan the three simultaneously? ? The registration seems daunting.
He made a video explaining the steps he takes and needed gear for the trichrome process. It's three specific filters although I think you could probably use gels? The combination of color comes in photoshop, each image is opened as a greyscale file and then turned into a color channel for a single RGB image (all the registration and alignment is done at that point).
The pic at 2:22 is really nice!
I really don't understand why people are afraid of remjet. all you need to do is get a dollar store sponge, cut it in half, wet the sponge, and it'll pull the extra bits off.
Damn!
How tf did you remove the yellow filter layer? Bleach or something?
I didn't do anything special, just used D76 and fixer. Not sure where along the lines it came off.
@@atticdarkroom wtf? Pretty sure that the filter is carey lea silver which I've never seen come off in standard BnW. From the Kodachrome ive processed its always had that layer still on. I have only used Kodachrome 200 also in D76 so it must be specific to that stock
Interesting. Would those results look really dense? I've seen other people try this and get heavily dense/fogged results and I always assumed it was the film not being stored correctly.
And for reference I used Kodachrome 64. Pre DX Kodak 5032 to be specific.
@@rorythorns6400 I have five rolls of kodachrome 200 and have been looking a solid reliable way to BW develop it. Any advice
Will ilfosol work?
Gah! I should have watched this before underexposing and underdeveloping my roll.
Por qué no los dos 😂😂
trikrodachome, trikodrachome .. trirodakhrome
You fail so that we don’t have to! 🙏🏾🥺
Adobe just made trichrome obsolete. They announced a new colorize feature in photoshop that trichromes black and white photos for you.