Avian Gastric Yeast ~ Things You Should Know ~ Our Loss, Story and Treatment
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- RIP Archie 🌈❤️ I will love and miss you forever❤️🌈
Update: on January 20th, my 33rd birthday- we got our 3rd negative test result back. So the vet said we are considered a negative household for AGY! Yay!
If you think your bird is sick, follow your gut. If you think there's something wrong, take them to a vet. It's hard to tell when a bird is sick, and sometimes when they do start showing signs they are ill--its too late.
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You made me cry dear😢 I lost my 3 month old African gray parrot yesterday. The doctor also diagnosed that it was a fungal infection in his stomach 😢. It was hard to see how he was going down 😢
@@KanizFatema-j1w I’m so terribly sorry for your loss!! 😢 sending love and hugs from my flock to you!
We understand That you’re upset you don’t have to say sorry bc is emotional 😢 thank you for being brave when you was talking
I am so sorry to hear about Archie... It sounds like you'd been doing everything right, but just had the worst luck. I am grateful to hear the rest of your flock is doing well. The process of treating your entire flock sounded so stressful I was holding by breath the whole time. Thank you for making this video and spreading awareness, as hard it was. ❤️🩹
Thank you, you’re so kind!! 💕
Thank you so much for sharing Archie’s story, Stacey! It was a rough video to watch and even made me cry but it’s full of helpful information. Your birds are so lucky to have you ❤
Thank you for watching! It was really hard to make so I had kept putting it off
Aw, thank you so much!! 💕
Im so sorry for your loss!! You are such an amazing person to share Archies story and bring to the attention this topic! Thank you so much!
I’m sorry you lost him. My own bird had to be put down due to gastric yeast infection. More bird owners should be alerted about this fungal infection as I never knew about it until my vets told me. Utter most condolence to you.
Thank you, and I’m so sorry for your loss as well. Yeah it was important for me to make this video because there isn’t enough videos about it
@@staceysflock Sorry to bother you but should I go back to the vets? I have two budgies and one had to be put down but the other one was sent home without any intervention. I’m still extremely concerned as although the vets said he was possibly asymptomatic I don’t know if this state will continue forwards. I also want to introduce another budgie into his life but I don’t know if I can if he has AGY. The vets said that it was ‘individual’ for each budgie and affects every bird differently but then again I’m not risking another budgie being infected. I feel like I should get him medication but maybe I’m just extremely paranoid.
@@TarbosaurusBaatar if they were living in the same cage, in my opinion the other budgie should be medicated even if they’re not symptomatic because they could still have it and they can still pass it on, for example Brett and Peppy I had no idea had it and they might have given it to Archie who did get very sick from it. So I def wouldn’t get another budgie yet until the current one is treated. That’s my opinion though and I’m not a vet. If that vet doesn’t want to medicate the bird, I would look for a different Avian specialist and get another opinion. I had to drive 90 minutes to the vet that treated Archie but they really know their stuff, so they were worth the drive. But my local vet is also pretty good with birds too. The 2 vet offices collaborated to come up with our treatment plan. Our medication is the one I mention in the video, if they don’t turn out to actually have it, the treatment doesn’t hurt them. But if they were living in the same cage I’d gamble a lot on saying the other budgie will test positive for it as well. You need multiple negative tests to know for sure they don’t have it anymore since the bacteria doesn’t always show up in their feces. Once you have several negative tests, I would say it’s safe to get another budgie to introduce. But make sure you quarantine them first
Thank you for the vital information. It upset me to hear of your loss, but the video is helpful to the rest of us who are unsure about the symptoms of this illness.
I’m glad you found it helpful! That’s why I made it, because when I was doing research there wasn’t much out there from people with personal experiences. I’m going through the same thing now that I’ve been diagnosed with bird fanciers lung, so I’m going to make a video about that too.
Horrified to hear about the lung condition and hope it quickly improves. One of my budgies is ill, but surviving as I have taken prompt action with med’s. The Lab reports will be slow as, like you experienced, the weekend causes problems. Meanwhile, he’s on guardian angel probiotic and he’s eating, plus med’s which can be fine tuned when I know more.
@@lauralauralaura222 I hope your baby feels better soon!! I like weekends off work but they’re the worst in terms of anything medical/veterinary! Thats great you acted fast. It’s so important!
I'm so sorry for your loss. ❤️
Thank you! 💕
We all know how much you loved/love Archie. You went above and beyond for him. Thank you for being brave and going above and beyond to tell us his story. We all know it was not an easy story to tell. There is a tomorrow and so happy to see you again surrounded by your flock! Can’t wait for other videos and watching the memories unfold. Merry Christmas 🎄
Thank you so much!! 💕 Merry Christmas to you too
My budgie was just diagnosed with this. She is on medication and feeling better. However, it cost us $1,500 in vet bills. This cannot be cured. Only managed. I'm afraid if she comes down with it again we cannot afford her vet bills. We will have to have her put down so she does not suffer further.
This disease is endemic in almost all pet bird populations. It cannot be quarantined out of the population. It is like lupus... It will have an outbreak, with treatment it may go back into remission, but it can always pop up again.
There is not enough information out there in the hobby about this. If I knew that a $35 bird was going to cost me $1,500 to only put into remission I never would have gotten into the hobby.
I don't want to see other people suffer the heartbreak and the monetary loss. I am approaching retirement and I can't even afford my own medical care, never mind this bird's medical care.
Please be aware of what we are all up against with AVG. No one is talking about this.
I’m so sorry you’re going through this!
The thing is, avian gastric yeast can be cured. It’s just so difficult if you have a flock of birds, so a lot of people think of it as incurable and say it’s impossible. But all of my birds are cured and we’ve done a few extra tests here and there and never had another test positive for it. When you google it, there are so many articles claiming it’s not curable. But when I talked to the specialist we went to, and my vet in town, they came up with that treatment plan for us. And it was extremely difficult, because you really have to be on top of cleaning and using the isopropyl alcohol (or bleach) and scrub off every particle of potentially infected poop, and give the medicine twice a day, and we’re good now. It’s just extremely difficult to get rid of it. But it can happen, it worked for us. Archie’s hospitalization was nearly $2,000, and I did about 5 tests during the time we were really going through it (not including the extra tests we’ve done since last January) and those are $200 a piece. So we did several collective tests to be more cost effective. And the medication for 7 birds was about $600 or so, I can’t remember exactly. It’s ridiculous how expensive it is to treat birds, it’s sad. I’m so sorry you’re going through this!
This was so sad, I cried with you! So sorry you lost your sweet Archie and that you went through all this. Thank you for doing this video, as hard as it was, the information you shared is very important.
Thank you so much, and for watching. I’m glad people are finding the info helpful
Awww I felt your pain throughout this video, but more importantly I felt your love and am 100% certain Archie also felt the love you had for him xxx RIP little guy and fly high with the angles xxxx Stacey if you ever need an ear I am just a message away - your birds are lucky to have you xxxx
Thank you so much! 💕 I miss him a lot and always wonder if he knows how much I loved him ❤️
@@staceysflock He Knows xxxx
Thank you for sharing your experience, I can't imagine how painful it was to make this :( I have followed your videos for a while and wondered how you were doing since losing Archie. I am glad you have such sweet babies to take care of you during this time.
Thank you for watching!! It was really hard so I had kept putting it off. But I saw someone post on a Facebook group that their bird had avian gastric yeast and I was like OK I need to make something that will help people like that
Loss is always hard, we do our best and our little ones know that. Love and prayers for you and your flock ❤
Thank you so much! 💕
@@staceysflock no worries at all! Looking forward to your upcoming videos💕
Hi Stacey I'm sorry to hear about your cocktail
Thank you
The university medical clinic can't get a compounded drug on a weekend? Yet they charged a premium price per day of hospitalization. despicable. Let me get this straight: They diagnosed your bird with AGY and charged you for that but made you get the medication. They drew blood from him for what reason? To charge you more and to pretend they were doing something when in fact they were not. They knew he needed Amphotericin B and they did not bother or have a way to get it promptly. Any veterinary medical facility should have Ampho on hand. The blood draw probably put undo stress on your very ill bird and hastened his demise before the delayed medication could help him
Please don't continue to think that "they did the best for him". They obviously did not. The best for him would be to start him on Amphotericin B immediately. They failed and they killed your bird but charged you thousands for their incompetence. Someone needed to say it like it is. Sorry for your loss. Been there, done that and now, luckily have found a real avian vet.
The university small animal hospital did not have the meds on hand unfortunately, I had to order through Wedgewood Pharmacy (a US based mail order pharmacy) and they don’t do anything on the weekends unfortunately. I don’t know the logistics of how their clinic handles keeping medicine on hand, I’m sure they can’t have every medicine possible that would ever be needed because that would be a LOT of meds to store and maintain since they treat so many animals. (They do also treat dogs, cats, horses along with reptiles, birds and small furries) The medicine for AGY did need refrigerated when stored. Even my current avian vet had me order those same meds to treat the rest of my flock through Wedgewood pharmacy as they did not have it either (they handle all animals there as well, they are not just treating birds only). So it doesn’t seem too uncommon for those meds to not be readily on hand at the vets I have in my area. The hospital did the best they could with what resources they had and I am so honestly lucky that the doctor (and the student as well) literally came to the hospital on a Saturday at 10pm to meet me and let me in so I could see Archie one last time. They are not open weekends but went out of their way to let me say good bye to him when they didn’t have to, they could have just told me if he makes it through the weekend you can visit Monday. Dr. Wong was empathetic and they saw how dedicated I was, driving 3 hour round trips (pretty much) everyday to the hospital to visit with him for 5-6 hours every day, just me and him in one of their rooms so I could be with him and they let me stay there all day. They diagnosed him quickly with having a high level of Macrorhabdus but ran other tests because I have a bornavirus positive bird they wanted to check for other things as well, like PDD. I gave them permission to run any test they thought was remotely helpful to diagnose and treat him. You also sign paperwork when you take them there if you want to give them permission to do whatever it takes, so I legally signed as well. So them checking his blood cell count was just part of their treatment because he had gotten more lethargic and wasn’t improving even though we got the meds the day prior they were a little surprised he hadn’t improved. By checking his blood cell count they found what they did, that he was bleeding internally. Respectfully I do have to disagree, I think they did the best they could and they gave me an opportunity to say goodbye to him and I kept them there at that hospital past 11pm on a Saturday. My current vet even still calls over there to talk to them and get opinions when she works with other birds or other small animals because they’re very knowledgeable. I don’t think they needlessly charged me for anything and I gave them full permission, as I mentioned above. I’m sorry you went through a bad experience. All we can do is love our birds the best we can and try to give them the best care possible. I’ll never forget Archie and I consider myself very lucky that I even got one moment with him, he was a special bird and I love him dearly.
Sorry, I disagree when you said the university medical center "did all it could". On the contrary, they left you scrambling for the medication. If they treat pet birds they they should have Amphotericin B on hand at all times just as they have the most common dog medications. Your bird died because the medication was very delayed (but they made a lot of money testing the hell out of him). Taking a blood draw from a bird who is dying of AGY so they can look at his blood count for academic purposes is malpractice. I stand by everything I say in this comment and the previous one.
I have had a number of ill birds and worked with a variety of "experts" (avian veterinary specialists). One jerk off wanted to run about 5 different tests on a budgie. I questioned him and he did not like that but then had to admit that drawing that much from a small budgie might be difficult on him because of the large volume. Seriously? He wanted to do a cbc plus metabolic panel, etc. plus a stupid test for a protein that if elevated might indicate that the bird had a stroke. Okay, I said, if you determine that he had a stroke, is there a specific treatment? No, he said. Well, I said, why take blood for a test whose results, even if definitive won't help him at all? He had no answers. I told him I only wanted subQ fluids given and no blood drawn and I would care for him at home. He recovered under my basic care and lived another 3 years but would have died had I let the "expert" drain him for the purpose of padding the bill into the thousands and academic curiosity, perhaps with zero regard for the suffering of my pet. @@staceysflock
I am guessing it is quite likely he didn't directly receive the bacteria but rather maybe came into contact or ate something toxic which damaged his immune system and allowed the bacteria to run rampant? maybe that would explain why no sign of it on the other birdies? idk just first thing to come to mind...nice birdies though
Their having a meeting
😆 they did seem to be congregating to try and look between the couch and the wall and see if there was anything there? It was pretty funny. Cockatiel Conference!