Harley Sportster, Engine Paint Restoration, (2 of 2) !
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2022
- Strip off the masking, Polish up the casings, and fit new stainless bolts !
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I always find it a lot easier to do the polishing of rocker box's and side casings when there off, they only need a quick wipe over when they get grease'y finger prints on them later on in the process of fitting the engine. It's almost as if you forgot to do it. doesn't make the rattle can spry job look any better though!! sorry.
Yea. I feel ya. I try not to rag on peoples stuff to bad. But this was just awful. Even the color. And idk how you could buff those covers correctly and not mess that paint up. Least do that before you paint. Channel usually does great work. This wasn’t there best lol
Looking good. You get a lot less greasy paw prints if you get some long Q-tip applicators instead of dipping your finger in oil to lube o-rings. Makes for better grip on the oil filter too. Love that little T-handle torque ratchet. I need to get one.
Thanks mate, good tip.. i left a direct link to the T-Bar torque wrench below the video in the description if you fancy one.!
Is there any problem with galvanic corrosion between the s/steel screws & alloy engine cases? As a bit of a novice with such things I'd sort of expected copper grease so was a bit surprised you used thread lock.
No, in fact quite the opposite, stainless steel fasteners don't corrode, so they are more prone to shake loose, specially in a Harley motor.!
@@Moonfleet41 Sorry Del you are wrong, galvanic corrosion will happen due to moisture in the atmosphere, rain or road spray. Not a reason not to us them but beware it happens. With polished aluminium engine casings where the torque setting is relatively low I use nylon washers to keep the head of the bolt away from the case. Interesting video though.
Threadlocker, the best tool for a Harley Davidson! 😅
Looks great Del. I did mine black and rubbed the fin edges off on the pots. Deceivingly heavy the Sporty motors. 😎👍
They are indeed Simon, stood mine on a bathroom scale last week, with the stand, just over 200kg Frame was just 20kg !
Sweet! The unmasking is the moment of reveal of the pretty new paint, the spot you forgot to mask or the place you masked where you didn't intend to.
Looks great Dell.
That engine is looking GOOD!
Ooh I like that polishing wheel. Since my garage is too small for a bench grinder, I'll be putting one of these buffer wheels on the list. ✔
A polishing wheel on a drill will never do as good as a bench set-up because of the lower RPMs. An air operated tool does pretty good because it spins faster. Just letting you know for information purposes. I'm in the same boat as you, no room and my compressor is too small for air operated one so I'm using a wheel in a drill...
I've been watching this series since I found it earlier, I am impressed that someone would spend this kind of time on a 100th anniversary Sportster while keeping it simple!
Lovely attention to detail job as always Del 👍
Thanks mate👍
That engine looks brand new after you finished with it. Top job!
How well does the hot oil finish survive?
If you carry out two or three full quenches then it lasts pretty well, i guess it all depends on what you put your bike through.!
So, the oil dip after heating up the parts was for rustproofing or hardening? And are you heating to a certain color or just getting them hot?
Hey Brother, Quenching in oil does both depending on the temperature you heat it to. Im just taking the steel up to a light straw colour which is about 400f, at that temperature it just rust proofs it and gives a nice dark colour... heat much above 'blue-purple' into dark red and you'll be tempering the steel.!
@@Moonfleet41 Got it! I'm really diggin into the "Forged In Fire" series Netflix is showing now. Bladesmithing looks like a lot of fun... and sweat! So much more to know than just beating the shit out of some hot metal!
Great to be back again. Watching you unmask the engine brought me back to memories of spending the first 2-3 hours of each day as a teenager unmasking all the previous day’s cars at my dads shop. By the time it was done the pile of paper and tape was almost 1/3 the size of the car LOL.
Hey buddy, great to see you back! And yeah, I remember that kind of work too, painted a few cars in the 80's, back in the days of newspaper and scissors, rather than stretchy plastic!... take care and have a great weekend, and thank you for your support as always.
Looks good. I was going to ask you about that T-Bar torque wrench but I found your link, Thanks for sharing
Looking Good Del!
Thanks buddy👍, glad you approve.
Hi I wanted to let you and others who do this kind of rebuilds, as I also do this, and I am presently working on a Sportster Chopper project myself. I wanted to let everyone know about the issue of using Stainless bolts on the aluminum motors and when this is done what happens to the fasteners like Stainless Steel bolts and the corrosion that will happen when these two metals are used together, PLEASE check out Albany County Fasteners about the issue I am writing to you about. I think it could be very important to all of us Harley Davidson lovers to help save these motorcycles so that they will last for many years and the next person who needs to rebuild a motor can do so without having problems during their teardown.
I hope that many people see this as it is important to know when rebuilding motors made with Aluminum.
Thank you for sharing this video with us as it has helped me, and I am sure helped many others in their projects.
That engine looked so much better in it's original black colour. Maybe you could have just polished a few accent parts to contrast with that black it would have looked so much nicer.
Not sure what you mean, the engine was never black mate, silver from the factory., just dirty.! !
Hi Del, just wondering your reason for switching to chain drive from belt drive? I really dont know what advantage one has over the other, please explain. Thank you
Many reasons mate, some practical, some aesthetic but it is a style upgrade as much as a practical one... you may find if you look up pictures of a few custom Sportsters, that it's a pretty common practice.
Looks good mate
Thanks 👍
Astonishing!
Thank You.
I had to read the comments to learn about the heating and oil quenching. I'm pretty sure I have never seen a single video of yours where I didn't learn something. Finishing up the engine and putting it in its new home is a real milestone in this amazing project. You should be very proud of your skills. God bless you and Miss Penney and best wishes to you both. ❤👍👍
Thank you so much Rick, am glad you enjoyed the oil burning process, we have a specific video on it from years ago to cover the whole process, once again it's a rather old video, but on the positive side, I do look a little less grey and slightly more dashing, apparently lol ... have a great weekend mate!
Looks good to me 👍👍
Thanks 👍
Nice work mate. Just a question, i have a 97 1200 custom with chrome rocker covers. The chrome is all flaking off, totally shit. Sharp edges everywhere. What is best way to strip it off. Thinking to custom paint them. Thank you from NZ.
OK mate, not uncommon I'm afraid, best solution is to take a fine grade flap disc on your grinder and sand off all the sharp edges, go over the rest of the covers which will scuff them up, then use an etch primer, then paint... they'll be fine! Good luck with it.
Iv been following the build, love the work and attention to detail. Having seen a lot of HDs would it not be better to chrome the covers, engine, primary etc than polishing and having them to reoxidise again?
This is a long build mate, i did the whole bike from the frame up, there wasn't room in the budget for lots of expensive chroming services, i have many other expensive things to pay for as you'll see when you get further along in the build.. Thanks for your kind support, im glad you're enjoying it.
@@Moonfleet41Delboy I too have been following. Fab work. I messaged you on Facebook about it to. If you were to get rocker covers, casings & exhaust chromed, where would you recommend to get it done? Would be great to hear back from you. Cheers.
Ive never seen a torque wrench like that before. Is it part of the T handle or is it an adaptor?
I checked it, it costs a bundle.
Hi Fog, Vondenballs is right, it's a pretty expensive tool, a dedicated t-bar torque wrench, but highly accurate and perfect for the small fasteners, which are critical to get right... there's a link in the description if you wanted more information.
Magnifique 😍
What kind of Allen wrench is that like a torque Allen wrench?
Hi Del, great work. Love watching your vids. Can I ask where you got the bolt kit for the engine? Thanks from Australia
Thanks mate.. i got the kit form a random seller on eBay, a guy who puts them together, bike specific, called "Stigfasteners or Garagebench" i think!
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Lovely...
Use map gas to heat the parts?? Better than propane?? Would be same results? Assuming it is.
Yeah, heat is heat, you're only heating to a light straw colour for rust proofing..!
Do you have a link for the ss bolt kits? I'm currently doing this too my 02 softail deuce and the ss kit sets it of nicely
This kit was made up by an owner of this specific model, sadly he doesn't do kits for any other bike... but i believe they are available from the dealer in the custom catalogues, they do black anodised kits too.
@@Moonfleet41 I'd love some in white to go with the black and white theme I'm doing. But they don't really do anything like that. Also thought I would ask for a link just incase it's a friend or local business, I'd rather my money went there. Anyway I can't wait to see this come together now
I stated I prefer starter painted black BUT now …. Not bad at all !!! You really shine her up !!!! 😎
You can work on my bike anytime! Very hard to find people who take this kind of detail work unless you got deep pockets and even then.
Thanks buddy.. i appreciate your kind words !
What kind of torque wrench is that sir?
Looks a proper job Del. I love the way you lay out all the bolts and washers, then line them up with a ruler!
Yeah, just being organised mate.. makes the job more methodical and easier to keep order..! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend.
how’d you get your covers so shiny I’m doing mine atm and they don’t come up as good as yours?
Demonstrated it in another video if you're watching the series, just put a small 3" polishing mop in a power drill and with a little bit of persistence it brings them up like this!
Thanks, what compound is that your using?
@@dile9288 Nothing fancy mate, just plain old Autosol !
Gleaming, better than out the factory & u can’t beat the stainless 👍🏻
Sure thing buddy, robust and durable plus bright and shiny too!
Looking great Del, nice job blacking the steel too, another useful tip, thanks 👍
Thanks mate. No problem 👍
That's a great result, hrs of work but so worth it, have a great weekend both.x 👍👌
Thanks, you too Geoff, it was a long day, but you're right, well worth it for a good result! D&Px
Wow that looked satisfying!!!!! Looking great Dell ⭐⭐
Thank you 😋
Very nice... :-)
Great to see this developing into another awesome bike. Nice one Del. Hope you and Pen are both doing well. 🍻👍
Thanks buddy👍 We're fine, have a good weekend yourself.
Super sweet, Del! A lot of work and it shows.
It sure is, thanks buddy.
Looking really good your hard work and perseverance pays huge dividends, gob on a stick is going to be very very jealous, he could only dream of getting a finish as good, excellent 😀
Thanks Colin, really appreciate your kind words mate. 👍
that engine is awork of art del
Thank you so much Allan!
Hi Del I can see by your shiny engine that you put some serious man hours in to this project An exceptional job so far looking forward to seeing you putting it back in to the frame Hopefully with no problems
Thanks Dean👍, it came out pretty well, not trying to build a show bike, but i do want it to look smart..
Looks beautiful Del. Awesome work.
Many thanks buddy, good to hear from you.
Harley bikes are starting to grow on me, thx to you mate. Glad your fighting fit. Hi to Money Penny 2
I'm glad to hear that, Harleys are more people's guilty secret than any other bike... have a great weekend mate, cheers from us both!
Amazed already at the results from your polishing efforts, she's gonna look awesome back in that repainted frame! Great work, Del! Cheers to you both!
Thanks Allen, im glad you like it, it will contrast well against the black for sure.! Have a great weekend and keep safe. D&Px
Great vid, Del. Stainless is a terrific upgrade. Looks like you have a head start on the gravy for Sunday dinner, too! 🏍👍🏍
Hey Gary, thanks for your kind words, yes you're right, stainless is a great upgrade... and I learned the gravy making process from the MiL, or specifically the farrier when he comes to do her new shoes every 6 months! Toodle pip ol' chap, have a great weekend both of you.
@@Moonfleet41 lol! Perfect… be safe both of you. Hope it’s cooling off there. 😎
Your project is coming along great! I still think that darkening and rust-proofing your original fasteners by heating them with a torch and immersing them in oil would have yielded a beautiful contrast with all of the polish and silver on the engine. You could have either pocketed the savings or applied them to other areas of the project, but your project your choice. It's still great content and well worth the watch!
Cheers Paul, good point, but on some of them they were so bad that the actually integrity of the fastener was starting to be affected and couple that with heating them to 400F and quenching, could have made them even weaker as they're so small, and the kit was actually pretty good value at just £36 and now I have stainless steel which'll never rust, I think that's a good value upgrade... but thanks again for your input as always.
Coming along very well Del, starting to look the part. Great editing too.
Thanks Ray 👍, always good to hear from you mate.
It Looks So Beautiful, Almost A Shame To Get It Dirty 🤭🤭🤭
Great job. Don’t over polish it looks great as it is. Well done sir
Thanks Mark, less is more and all that.. good point. Thanks for your support.
Fabulous job Love it
Del been using your tip for a good few years now on heating up n dropping into oil, I'm using old diesel oil for real blackened parts for corrosion protection works a treat from bolts nuts old tool restorations ect, engine is looking awesome hope you both have a great weekend 👍
Thank for your feedback Col, im so glad the oil burning trick works for you, and i love the idea of using sooted up diesel oil.. i'll have to try that..(got plenty lol) You have a great weekend too mate. Del.
As suspected Part 2 delivered - looks the job Del 👍
Thanks Richard, glad you enjoyed it mate!
You could work for Harley Del that engine looks as good as new.
Nice to see the inclusion of oil treatment process again utilising all your skills.
Good work pal x
Thanks Marc, i don't think they'd have me after all the years of showing how to side step the dealer labour bills... but it's a nice thought..! have a blessed weekend mate.
What torque settings do you use for the new stainless fasteners?
I just go with the spec in the Critical Fasteners list and as they're stainless, naturally use threadlock, so therefore it's a wet thread so I always go with the lower figure in the torque range.
That is one bad ass looking engine brother 👏 great job ! It came out super clean ! This project is awesome 👍 Keep up the great work brother! stay safe guys cheers from new york 🥂🥂🥂🍺🍺🍺
Hey Renzo, great to hear from you, and thank you so much for those kind words of approval, we're glad you're enjoying it! Keep safe both, have a great week, D&Px
Popping Del - love an SS engine bolt kit 😉
Thanks Jon, smart and practical.!
Wow. That engine pops bruv. Its gonna pop and bang aswell when it fires up. Nice job. Not skiving this time. I'm recovering at home lol.
Thanks mate.. hope you're feeling better and looking forward to the weekend.
Wonderful editing and sound quality. Must say the engine is a massive improvement in appearance. Intrigued to what the chain drive will look like. This is turning out to be one hell of a bike.
Have a great Sunday both! 🥳👋🏻🇸🇪🇬🇧
Thank you very much Paul, it's always great to hear from you, and we're glad you're enjoying the project, have a peaceful Sunday and keep safe my friend.
Wow it turned out great! I finally got time to sit down and watch this tonight. Can I ask why you cool down the parts in, I'm guessing, oil?
Hi Simon, great to hear from you, the oil burning process is one of the most ancient traditions of mankind, it goes back almost to the Iron Age, and then down the ages, the Romans used it plus Medieval armourers to combat rust. Quite simply you heat the metal up to where it just starts to change the first shades of colour (never take it to red heat, you can alter the temper of the steel), then once it's hot, quench it in oil... this will burn the oil in to the micro structure of the steel, creating a water repellent layer... in ancient times, obviously armourers didn't have engine oil, I believe they would use things like pork fat or olive oil, but that's the reason mate... Take care and have a great weekend, I've been enjoying some of your older content!
@@Moonfleet41 Ahh, thanks, I should have thought of that, the pores in the steel, note the iron age and roman part. :) Super smart, I should heat up my whole car then with all the road salt we see here in Norway. Thanks again and cheers for the weekend! Best wishes, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive I think with the summer temperatures we have had here this last week, i could have parked mine in the sun for a few hours then thrown a few buckets of oil over it.. job done..lol!
"We're gonna need a bigger coffee table" . . . Excellent job, almost a shame to re-frame it in a bike. One reason I liked aero-lumps, if they somehow managed to bring it back without fresh soil jammed in the fins, they did tend to stay nice & clean. (You weren't tempted to drill all the Allen heads for wirelocking then? - 'teeee-di-um'! Have a great w/e : )x
You too buddy, be good to get out for a ride this weekend, got to MOT the Hayabusa, so a good excuse for a blast over to see a mate! Keep safe and have a great weekend yourself mate.
Have fun & remember to ride like the memsahib's watching - she'll worry : )
It's looking mighty good, Del! And that was some very nice editing on the torque sequence for all the fasteners. Very enjoyable video :)
Glad you enjoyed it Tommy, we work hard to make the videos watchable and progressive, so thank you for your valuable feedback!
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Engine looking good
Excellent job very impress you really put the time and effort to complete this task. Again good job. René
Thank you so much René ! Have a good weekend.
Hi Del, apologies for not commenting recently, we have been watching you on TV and you can't do comments. I never got the Harley thing but as an ex engineer I get the over engineering of all the metal work, built to last springs to mind. It's Alex by the way,just my mobile login, still enjoying your organised approach to every task. Now have a fully functioning workshop here in France, ready to start a project, keep up the good work buddy
Hi Alex, welcome back, good to hear from you. Great news that you got your garage up and running, i bet you can;t wait to get a bike project rolling.. Have fun with it buddy and enjoy the journey !
looks real good man.
Thank you sir. Appreciate it!
Awsome job del. you woudent think it was the same motor...
Thanks mate, looking forward to getting it back in the frame!
Awesome work mate. Really enjoyong this build. Did you make the engine stand?
Thanks mate, and yes i made the stand myself, here's a link to the video..! ruclips.net/video/eO7Od6DYrjA/видео.html
Looks great Del
Thanks Paul👍
Del that engine looks 110%, great build! 👊
Thank you Sam, you're very kind.
Very nice !
That is a nice looking engine! Can’t wait to see it back in the frame, it’s gonna look epic! Are you excited to see it coming back together?
Yes mate, it's a very exciting time and am looking forward to muscling it back in the frame, if a little nervous maybe, but am sure it'll go well!
Without exception, that bike with all the cleaning, polishing, and painting, will in the first few hours of start up, will smell AMAZING.
You're not wrong there mate, actually it's not the nicest smell in the world to look forward to... This is engine manifold paint, super VHT and it 'cooks' off, smells pretty bad actually, but Penny doesn't know yet so we'll keep that quiet aye ha ha!
@@Moonfleet41 LOL
Wow Del.. that is nice.. 😎
Thanks mate 👍
Del, Im loving this project. Great work mate👍
Thanks buddy..
That looks fantastic Del! Great job. God bless
Thanks Keith, you too sir!
Great work Del, very nice demonstration of connector management. Nice work on the Aluminum polishing, a bit of a drag, but very satisfying in the end. Enjoyed. cheers mate!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Looking great, Del!
What polish and applicator did you use best mirror shine I have ever seen
It's a regular stacked cloth polishing mop, and fine buffing soap.. same as you would have on a bench polisher, it's just a smaller one that fits on the drill..!
@@Moonfleet41 awesome thank you
Looks so good mate, what a transformation.👍🏻
Thank you mate! Cheers!
Amazing!!! It’s going to look lovely back in the frame, Have a lovely weekend both of you x
Thank you so much Luke,! You too buddy.
To make the washers a better size use a nut and bolt to make a mandrel and turn them down on the lathe, you can do several in one hit.
But you knew that already didn’t you… 🧐😂
Wow Del looks brilliant mate well done once again
Thanks mate👍
When i was a Navigational Instrument Engineer back in the mid 70s - late 80s, on numerous instruments, i used to have to polish various bits and pieces. I got an enormous amount of satisfaction out of seeing a a sextant arc which i`d got to an almost mirror finish just using very fine emery paper. It`s one of the most satisfying things you could do.
Ooooo shiny!
Looks a big difference, just changing bolts and a lick of polish, looks great, hope yourself and Penny are doing well, take care
Thank you Andy, im really happy with it now, it's not gonna be a show bike, it'll get ridden all the time, but i do want to looking fresh for sure. Have a great weekend both of you.. !
@@Moonfleet41 gonna fit some new front pads to the big scoot tomorrow and a bit of maintenance, for our NC500 trip in 2 weeks, so looking forward to that.
Proper work of art that 😎👍
Nice work…looks fantastic mate
That engine is a thing of beauty already, the whole bike is. Gonna be better than when it came off the assembly line. Great journey so far thanks :)
Thank you so much for those kind words Tony, Glad you're enjoying the journey sir. 👍
Beautiful, beautiful work. Great job!
Thank you very much!
Very tidy, looks great!
I love the methodical and slightly OCD way you lay out all the new fasteners, I can totally relate to that :)
Thanks mate, it's all part of the enjoyment of a project in my view, taking your time and actually enjoying the process!
Was about to comment on the Rocker tops,then the last sentence cancelled it out, I knew that wouldn't do for del boy or us 👍👌
Sure thing mate, I actually may get in there with a bit of 2000 grit paper first, just to take out the imperfections, but I've got so much to do first I'll be saving all that kind of thing for the end!
Looks ace Del 👍