PRINCE FIRED A LOT OF FRIENDS
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He was clearly exceptionally talented and possessed a vision for his music that bordered on obstinacy: not only had he produced, arranged, performed every instrument and composed all but one song on his 1978 debut album For You, he had also somehow contrived to get a record contract with Warner Brothers that entitled him to complete artistic control, almost unheard of for a new artist.
But he was also a strange, shy, awkward figure, apparently unwilling to play the promotional game. His interviews were almost wilfully unrevealing; an early appearance on that venerable US music TV institution American Bandstand was such a disaster that host Dick Clark later claimed Prince was the most difficult artist he’d ever encountered on the show. How could anyone so apparently unwilling to play the game ever hope to make it?
But the strangeness and reticence that characterised his early interactions with the media were anything but a hindrance: he used them entirely to his advantage, turning himself into a genuinely mythic, unknowable figure in the process. His interviews were spectacularly unforthcoming about anything other than his music. He developed his own shorthand in which all his songs were written - U for you, “eye” instead of I - and at one point, he changed his name to a symbol: for a time, you were either supposed to refer to him as Victor or The Artist Formerly Known As Prince. “I am something that you’ll never understand.”
"Alexander Nevermind" - OMG, I never caught that dig. LMAO!
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Yes!!!! I can get comfy and watch this before I go to bed!💜
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Me too!
He wanted a loyal family and given his childhood and abandonment, is that so hard to understand. Unrealistic but he was creating his world now that he could.
He would later say..."to the young artists...Friends shouldn't be on your payroll."
@@Sinnik22...and that would be a true statement.
Money and friendship is not ever a good mix .
They all understood it more than anyone Margi, that's why they were loyal to him.
It's one thing to know that on paper and another to live it 24/7. You can literally be in love with someone and be unable to be with this person with suffering as well.
If you haven't been in the industry there really is no true understanding of what this feeling is, I'm afraid. And yes, you want to tour with people you professionally get along with extremely well, but not so close much close friends. Keep friends that are out of the industry as well. That's a key piece of advice!
I need the paper Prince.
True!
A lot of sour grapes you hear on this one. A man who helped them all receive the name they were able to get work with. They are who they are because a man had a vision for all of them. He walked through the door with one mission in mind. To be the best. Prince is a fighter. He wasn't going to back down. I could imagine when Andre left he was docile about that. I lost a good friend in my group who I started with in show business. It changed me as well. But, we have to go on. Prince inspired me back in New York. I started doing all this coaching and training my friends to do great things. It happened. I didn't play all them instruments like Prince. But, I was inspired to be great at something.
Cats are mad. Prince was out here moving with genius and sadly doing some trampling.
how about paying the team for their input? And or acknowledge the names instead of saying a name was given to a person that already had the name? Matt Fink's statement about the solo on "head' really stands out here. I grew up a HUGE Prince fan. He was My favorite, partly because in my mind "He can Do it ALL"! Of maybe he can but, that solo on head had me saying "whoa Prince is Baaad on those keyboards", ok he is BUT THAT WAS FINK that impressed me...... The Kid put his name on somebody else's homework for that "A" grade. It wasn't until my late 40s that I actually found out what a true NArcissist is. They fool everybody.... until we see through the mask. They emphasize what other wouldn't be without them, what would they be without those others. Hey, are we talking about a pimp here? lol
@@letssee9 Not a Pimp. But, someone who is shrewd and cunning. Prince hired these guys for a reason. So if he utilizes him while in the Band. Why not? The same way he utilized Lisa and Wendy. That such a smart move putting Wendy in the Band at the time. Prince was the Captain. But,he needed his team to win.
@@garfieldharrison510 adding Wendy and Lisa was a very smart move! Ala Sly Stone. Pimp part I'm talking about is using their work, claiming it as his, not paying, keeping the spoils and "they should be greatful to be taken advantage of by such a wonderful person". Lol
Reading some of these comments, it's shocking 2 see how some fans WILL ALWAYS excuse Prince's bad behavior towards others simply because, he is a genius, smh!😳😒
I've thought about THIS for a long minute. NOBODY knows the HEAT OF THE KITCHEN, but the COOKS. This is where all of the Good Food comes from.
So, ultimately I SEE where Prince, while loving his Success, told people not to IDOLIZE Him...
....spend that time doing YOUR THING.
and SUCCEED!!!
I’m the opposite I find it kind of shocking that some fans WILL ALWAYS excuse Prince’s former band members not all of them but certain key ones including certain former associates, wives, and key managers and even former engineer’s bad and questionable behavior towards Prince simply because they he was a genius😐 and as a bonus apparently this excusing extends now to certain Rockstars ““ who have boutique record labels and will plan on officially bootlegging princess Camille album an exploit his work for profit with complete impunity.
i dont. its very clear he's very difficult to work with at times and he was horrible to the ppl he worked with. but the results speak on their own. you dont produce greatness by being soft all the time. in prince's later years, if you ever listen to the later bands he formed on how he operated he was more forgiving, relaxed and not as forceful. young prince wanted to show only the best and give great results, older prince was a seasoned master who didnt need to prove anything but to keep playing and experimenting.
✔💯% Facts Bro, it is what it is, if I have "The Machine" behind me and I take Your ideas who will those benefit more me or you Hmmmmm, because "All This Love for Prince" now that he's gone well it's funny how his last few LPs didn't receive all this love in terms of sells, so miss me with this calling people ungrateful, so be grateful he stole from you 😂😂
No matter what anyone says....he dissed some key people...and later on in life...he stated he regretted it....
I love Andre...he is a great person, i love the interviews with him and he is one of my favorite bassplayers...and i dont doubt he wrote or jamed up some of the stuff that Prince used BUT to be plain there is alot of people around prince that want to claim they did alot BUT when u listen to what they done on their own...its not close to what prince put out..so im guessing prince could draw out the best from them even if they had a feeling they did it all themself.
And God forbid any of the crew admit that. I love Andre, too, but he also , like Jam and Lewis, made his millions writing/producing music. Jam and Lewis said getting fired was good timing, as they were already producing, and Prince taught them an amazing work ethic gets results. Morris admits he's lazy, and then blames everyone else for his business mistakes. Not ONE of his associates made it big as a musician/performer (Sheila was already in the biz, so she doesn't count). For those intent on cursing Prince out, those associates had decades to make their own, independent fame, and did not.
Yep.
@@reginafris6822 yeah..ain't it funny, how Morris ain't so cool? Damn.
Again & again
@@reginafris6822 Total BULLSHYT!! He stiffed Morris and he had to get a lawyer. Morris only ended up with 17k out of the 50k! Also he stiffed Brown Mark and he had to get a lawyer for the whole 50k too! Get your tongue out of Princes AZZHOLE, before it turns purple lol, he was(at times) an asshole..
I wish Morris wouldve went into acting, he was soo awesome to watch. He made me feel great as a kid i remember that. Like a favorite uncle that makes you laugh and feel wonderful🥰🥰
Alexander was 100% correct- IT IS ABOUT THE PAPER!
Getting fired/not hired was the luckiest break of his career, Same for Jam and Lewis.
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were his lucky break, his Hearsay album is one of the most underrated in history to me. Alexander's drug program really kept him from having a bigger career.
EXACTLY!!!!!! PRINCE MY BOY BUT GOSH🤦♂️
@@jlv3x did you mean drug problem? If so, you're absolutely right
@@jlv3x His voice is outstanding - drugs have done that to many careers.
Ya I remember all those dozens of hits after they left....
Oh wait, not one single one of them ever eclipsed what they did when they were a part of his music...even today you don't hear or see any of them doing anything significant
Gail Chapman resembled Teena Marie back in the day.
Just imagine what would've happened had Prince taken care of everyone. All the different successful people he had around him? Same thing happened with Devante Swing from Jodeci. He had Timbaland, Missy, Ginuwine, Playa, Tweet and Magoo signed to him.
Best laid plans
I always felt Paisley could been the new Motown. All that talent in once place. Prince could have went independent earlier and been able to release music more efficiently
Thanks!
like I said...Awesome! Thank you!
7:20 its pretty crazy that Prince let Andre be broke for a whole tour lol smh wow! Even though they were friends, and he did all that work for free, Prince left his pockets dry still lol wow.
Maybe it was a loyalty test
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@@IronMikeDyson1979 Don't get it twisted I love Prince, but you can't slide the man 20 30grand for his help!? Andre said he couldn't even afford to take his girl to the movies lol smh
@@chrishawkins6535 andre wasnt just his friend, they're cousins even and he treated andre like that after the cymones welcomed him into their home as another child. prince had no where to go after his dad kicked him out as a 12 year old. let that sink in🤣🤣🤣 im definitely appalled but prince modeled himself like james brown and followed that lead. james brown band member never had their credits and they couldve made loads of money bcoz their beats was some of the most sampled in hiphop. idk if prince ever reimbursed the cymones but i hope he did eventually.
@@raggedyhaggity250 Prince always looked out for Andre's Mother until the day she died. Also, for the record Andre and Prince were NOT cousins, lol. People need to also remember they were all young and trying to make it and Prince opened the door for them all. These segments are about Prince in his 20s and not the man he became once he matured. The drive was still there but he was much more relaxed and still continued to help other Artist and I won't even mention all the humanitarian things he did throughout his career. I certainly am not the same person I was in my 20s or early 30s, most people aren't. Too judge anyone's whole life based on just a fraction of their life isn't fair, especially when they are young.
Guys, for real, this stuff is absolutely monumental!
I remember the attention Morris and Jerome received from the press, media, TV, music mags etc. and how Morris and Jerome, stole the movie. When I saw Purple Rain at the theater in LA, I forget the name of the theater but it was at the USC adjacent 'Village' outdoor mall, IN 1984, when The Time appeared on screen to perform I'm telling you, the Black youth got UP and started dancing and I was like in the middle of a concert! So that kind of thing you know... may have bothered Prince a bit. So much so he did his own dynamic duo with Jerome in UTCM I think to prove he could be funny in the same way, that amongst other ideas and hidden meanings. Anyway. I came out of that theater a fan of Prince more so than The Time, but I liked it ALL. I was convinced!
@Tony yeah you know in the subject of the time in a different alterations I’ve never really come out of a certain kind of theme but for some reason it kind of works though because I still rock the party live Alice Morris‘s band and when the original seven got together and did their own songs I mean it was a powerhouse of talent.
I don’t know where I read it or where I heard it could’ve been the possess book I have to reread it maybe I don’t know I forget but I know what I heard of red is that something happened but also broke princess heart I’m in the beautiful ones it’s not about Susana the songs very much based on what was going on in his life like princess not of the sun but you know in general about the movie.
Man I LoVe Under the Cherry Moon!!🤩
The Time. Should have been bigger.
Crazy I never knew Jesse Johnson briefly became the lead singer of the time very rare footage 👏🏾💯💯
I can see what Jimmy Jam is saying about Alexander O'Neal, I hadn't noticed how much Alex referred to himself in third person. It's in like every interview.
These episodes are always the backstory that if people miss them, they probably won't fully get your series episodes.
I've been trying to save the last one before this but I guess I'll just go ahead!
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So excited!💕
34:24 The Time, fronted by Jesse Johnson, singing Jungle Love? Is Heaven this great?
Basically a matter of mixing friendship&business and sidemen forgetting they are sidemen. I mean, no matter what anyone said in the video, Prince proved them all wrong. He got bigger than anyone else doing things his way.
some friends make a band, share ideas and all of them have a dream of making it big. One of the guys takes a demo they made together and gets a deal under the guise that its just him alone. That guy get backing from the majors and the majors market the "it's all me story". The world LOVES the "its me" guy because that really is impressive. The it's me guy says "I have the ring, you guys are sidemen even though I'm playing the stuff WE ALL MADE UP". Hahhha, I'm bigger, I'm the best, the world believes the LIE! I WIN! This is mixing toxic narcissism "Strange Relationship" -Smeagle from Lord of the rings style friendship with greed type business. That said, even if they weren't friends, same thing would happen when dealing with that type of businessman. Thanks Matt Fink, I love that solo on "head" you made me think Prince really got down on that! I wanted to be like "HIM". lol Of course I grew up as a Prince fan, he was my favorite because I thought he did it ALL. He probably would have still been my favorite as the frontman for the guys I really/actually liked and didn't know it was THEM. Ok "sideman". what a JOKE! We fell for it. Prince is a great frontman and visionary and super talented musician but NOT what we were lead to believe he was. Kind of like the Wizard of Oz! lol
@@letssee9 Prince was working and creating at Moon Studios by himself, Chris Moon was mentoring him and also gave him free reign. Chris passed a demo over to Owen Hussney telling him it was one guy. It was probably refined again before being presented to WB. This was a big deal, it had to be right. I have big reservations that the final WB demo was something made much earlier by the full band.
@Lavender Bee I hear you and that's where things get hairy. We can doubt the final product was the full band. Yes, I've seen this type thing many times. I'll tell it as if we're you and I. You and I make somethings together. It's both of us on Monday. Thursday I get an opportunity to go work. I go alone. Next Monday I do a solo session I play your parts and mine. Yeah technically I did it all myself when I played the parts you made up. Years later some of my fans notice that I sound different as my band changes. And believe me, Prince is still 1 of 2 of my all time favorites. The other is George Clinton.
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@@Sinnik22 checkin' this edit (bad name, vids getting longer is not an edit) only now but ur getting better ! there is more ease. makes it more joyfull 2 watch & is better 2 follow. i like the vizuals 2. ur still the only 1 doing it. (6 years dead & still NO movie/docu) lots of love & respect. Peace-out
Perfect timing 💜💜💜
Cool, been awhile had my phone stolen twice and broken my ankle nice 2 c sum great uploads again 🙏
Chin up! We got u. 😉hope you’re feeling good now. Yeah?
Prince 4ever!! 💟💜💟💜💟
Facts
This was definetly the best one yet!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Netflix or Amazon needs to offer you a bag so we can get some sort of miniseries
Yeah, I keep coming back to this one after reading Morris's book.
@CJ Jr. true lol
Everyone want to praise and worship this guy prince but he treated everyone close to him and loved him dirty he treated everyone dirty and people still love this character 🤦🏻♀️🤔
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not sure why, but i dont get a good wibe from wendy...allways had the feeling she think to higly of herself and her role around Prince.
For sure 💜
Even though he had a different sound, I always thought that Terrence Trent Darby was always a Prince wannabe
lil sam cooke too
there were a lot of them all of a sudden back then here in holland we had giorgio he was pretty good actually
Sananda Maitrya is still living his best life out living his more famous contemporaries. Still produces his own music independently. Did not sell his soul and was granted a long life, a happy marriage, and 1 or 2 beautiful children with his Italian wife in Milan and an adult daughter who puts out her own music in the US. I don’t know. Maybe Prince might have desired to be him if he could do it all over again.
Another epic video.
You're truly a genius creator❗💜
Thank you! Haven’t seen u on the chat in a minute. Welcome back!
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Thank you ❗ Oh, I'm here !
I never miss your videos.
I'll have to keep better timing with the live chats . 💜
after i read the description up there, all i could think was 'international man of mystery'
14:15 So Prince was a true perfectionist
Sounds like Prince was a nasty boss to have - But, if he hadn't have been liked that, then he NEVER would've made it into a massive mega-star! He had to be a bastard to drive through his singular vision, and if you weren't with him 100% then you had to go-go-go!
If Prince had compensated Andre accordingly and generously with more $$$ for all the hard work Andre put into rehearsals, performances and loyalty AND if Prince had let him contribute creatively with song ideas and such, Andre wouldn't have left when he did so Prince only has himself to blame. Oh...and Sinnik22, it's ALEXANDER O'NEAL, NOT O'NEIL. LOL
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Andre said himself he told Prince he would only stay for the 3 albums he got his intial contract for with WB. Trust and believe Andre wanted to be the star and not just in his friend's band. There was some jealousy going on during that time and I can't fault him for it because they were young and he wanted what Prince had for himself. Remember Andre was in the band pre Purple Rain and Prince didn't have a lot of money during that time.
It's hard to believe how much money that movie made how little they were paid 😕
to be fair Prince financed it by himself. Warners didn't guarantee the loan till filming wrapped.
@@Sinnik22 Yes, I was somewhat aware that. I guess I tend to look at things differently. I feel if I was in Prince shoes I would have tossed them another check to be fair. Prince paid millions for his studio after the movie right? Apollonia only got $30,000 and Morris Day $50,000 just seems really small. I see why Vanity left because he only offered her $5,000. Don't get me wrong. I understand Prince being on a budget but he at least should have paid an aftermath from his large gains to the main acts. But I heard he did right his wrongs before he died.
@@garyprater8139 he probably would've threw Morris more $ if they ended things cordially. They had an argument and Morris dipped out. One has to wonder if Morris portrayal in the movie getting well received had to do with it..
Of course he had that Napoleon complex and the best way to control people is with money. Prince may have considered that it was his idea and his profits.
But people will still slight Denise because she left partly on that point.
Ungrateful people..if it was not for Prince none of them would have the careers or money they have today..But some respect on Prince Rogers Nelson name..RIP genius and trialblazer
I was riding with Morris for his solo career; back in 1985, he actually had a Great live show. He cane down some lighted stairs, which descended from a 'SignO'the Times' type skyline. Never will forget it. But the REAL TRUTH IS...his music career wasn't that good on his own. And as a new artist, he apparently didn't have enough budget to have Jimmy and Terry produce. He should have asked Jesse...
Those lighted stairs idea was probably takin from the "Billy Jean" video! But your right Morris should of asked Jesse👍 Jesse would have made him sound that much better and funkier! It's crazy because Morris produced the song "Party up" that was his song that he gave to Prince, that song was off the hook! So why couldn't he produce his own album that sounded like that!🤔?
@@Christopher-yl6cn It was just the groove. Prince wrote, played all the instruments, and produced the actual track.
@@lavenderbee3611 Someone from the Purple Klan said that Morris's version was Wayyyyyy funkier then Prince's version!! I'm sure you remember that statement.
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Well, he is Prince.
Jesse KILLS me with his mumbling. Talk UP!!
these are so dope
Kind words. Thank you. Enjoy.
Jerome Benton's "solo career" BRAAHHAHAHAHA
Comedy😆
Notice the Kid never speaks to Morris in the movie... I think Morris said 13 or so words to the Kid...
Rick james biggest album ever 1981 street songs was produce by prince drum machine lol
Do what u need to do. Especially when u can do it better yourself ❤
Prince did not remain the same. He grew and changed.
He had a dream and a vision and pursued it.
If you didn't like his direction, leave and get your own.
Such a cultural loss to have never had a Prince x Michael Jackson duet. Probably aided them in some way appearing enemies, however there are accounts stating that behind closed doors they were cool with each other. The two of them going at it in a call and response phew chile. Would have been incredible.
Yes. I am that I am. Period. Dot. Punkt. PRINCE..
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Imagine Gail Chapman quitting a band fronted by Prince. I hope what ever she did after was better than winning all those awards and performances at the Grammys and American Music Awards and being on stage at the Oscars. WTF were you thinking? Sing the damn song.
The party had barely started
She has expressed regret tho🤔.
Gail had integrity! Didn't sell out for made up trophys. How many of the other members actually "shared" and AWARD with prince? If she would have stayed, she'd be ON STAGE doing something she didn't want to do. Now THAT's a SLAVE! "here wear these metalic draws you don't like because I found out you were talking to rick James, even though I stopped wearing the drawz look after I got boood for having them on and stepped my game up". lol
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I couldn't help but chuckle a little on, "We were at the Steak & Cake"; "Nah, we were at Sambo's"; "So we had dinner at Rudolph's" 😂
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Ever notice how everyone who worked with Prince interviews as if they have Stockholm syndrome. It's like they have to say nice things even though they don't seem pleased with the outcome.
I never noticed, they all do have the same story narrative yet, no problem. Maybe they really do see their luck in meeting Prince and are just thankful for what he gave them. Great insight.
@@Sinnik22 I interviewed a lot of children abused by parents. It is kind of hard to criticize someone who literally brought you into the world. I agree that Prince literally raised these people and put them on the map. But Prince was a shrewd dude. No truer words have ever been said and listening to these interviews with a trained ear adds something. If I wrote Kiss and Prince did not give me a writing credit I would feel some kind of way about it too and I am a huge fan!
@@Sinnik22 Jimmy and Terry got past it but you can really hear the difference when Wendy and Lisa, Vanity, Brownmark, Jesse, Andre and Morris talk about Prince. The answer is always…long pause “Well, I learned a lot” or “Prince, you took, but did you give?” Woah! There is a lot to unpack here.
@@trevorthetherapist4200 I never heard Vanity say anything bad about Prince. Guess I missed that. No offense to any of them but I don't think they would have been really known if not for Prince. Andre was definitely a better producer than a front man and Jesse is a great guitar player. Prince just had the full package, as they say he had the "IT Factor" and not everyone does.
Could be that Minnesota nice!
Prince was an Alpha and he did it his way.
Doesn't excuse disrespecting and disposing of everyone who disagreed with him
@@KernelHughes when you're the lion..you don't worry about what the sheep thinks.
The thing I find most interesting, is that none of these people had anything to say while he was alive. He's not here to tell his side of the story so it's pretty easy to exaggerate things and just simply portray things in a different light. And then everyone seems to think that he owed them something. I think there was a lot of jealousy going around. And it's always tricky to work with someone you are friends with, and that is underscored by most of the people in this video.
Andre stuff always make me sad. I wished they hadn’t fallen out. But Andre did say they made up before he died. But this why you have to take care of business and leave the friend stuff at the door
Thank you
It’s amazing how many people prince put on and developed. He was trying to see if they had the same drive as him and what they were made of it seems.
I wonder how many of them were there to support him during his final days...
None 💜
Probably not many.
He intentionally tended to isolate himself.
Im catching up!!!
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Smart people get the most hate if they cant please everyone
Eric Leeds said he was an A**hole most of the time and so did many sound engineers, but I couldn't care less, his music was f**king brilliant.
Without Prince no one outside Mnpls would no his friends. Prince was tge driving force in Mnpls and of Mnpls sound. He was the boss. Period.
I know jesse n Terry lewis wrote together when Jesse lived with terry lewis
If they had learned collaboration or given the chance within the PRN group the Time could have had a giant sized impact.
With out Prince none of these people would have been known. Especially Morris and Jesse. Purple Rain is right out of Prince mind his dream. These people are not his friends never were. Real back stabbers. Morris, Jesse and Wendy, Lisa, Brown Mark and the rest everyone trying to look like, sound like, be Prince . They all Prince creation. Dogs that bites the Master's hand. Prince just moved on with his dream and career making new music and living his dream, his life. R.I.P Prince. Only the other side of the story I want to hear is Prince side which I will never hear here. All these his friend enemies could not wait to kill him some more every day since he died in a most unexpected, and unnatural way. What a tragic tragedy 😢 💔 for all the ones who really loved and admired Prince Roger Nelson.
Excuse me? He did everyone dirty that loved him are you serious right now?🤔
All those musicians were paid and contracted to WB and Prince bought that about to bring his friends along with him as he said he would. Until Purple Rain he was not financially set up to employee that many people. Be realistic and think through the comments from people that are jealous, full of envy and wanting the life Prince was evolving through a strong work commitment, practicing many hours and skill. They could all work as hard to succeed like Prince. As for music, Prince gave Andre a great hit that was a success. As for money, Prince didn’t spend his on anything but what he needed to help him succeed.
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It's funny how so many people pick sides like it's all black and white. Likely its shades of gray.
I agree. Neither were perfect.
107:44 Wendy said he sounds like us!! She was serious although she had to laugh it off. Then listen to what Lisa says. Without a doubt, Wendy and Lisa helped Prince develop his sound. They added the ingredients that his music needed💯🤍 PrinCe was influenced by Wendy and Lisa more then anyone he's ever heard. He will never tell you this but believe me its true! Wendy and Lisa are trained musicians that went to school for music. Both of their bothers were geniuses, you remember those strings at the end of Purple Rain? That was Jonathan Melvoin {brother}. Oh and the song "Around the world in a day" that was David Coleman's musical idea.{other bro}. So you see this wasn't a family to be played with, when it came to music. I personally feel that Prince didn't give them enough praise.💜 {107:50} Lisa said it best! Swap barter an trade, teach and give and steal. They were giggling but serious. None of those words Lisa used were bending towards them learning something from him😳
Wendy you guys were let go lol
Thank you!
This is a real pity party for the wannabe Princes. Those that left him, say they wanted to succeed on their own and implied Prince was stealing from them for his own success. Do they realise what that sounds like and says about them. The WB contract was Princes sole contract. He wanted to bring his friends along but it would never be as equal and they had to realise that.
Prince got that contract by using a demo they all made together. He told WB , it was him alone. He wanted to bring his friend but not pay them. lol He got MOrris a deal then kept him and the time from performing in major markets because they would show him up at times! Sabotaged some of their shows "as a joke" sometimes, didn't want them to do outside projects because "like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis" proved THEY MIGHT JUST PRODUCE SOME OF THE BIggest projects in music history and become GREAT themselves. No they wouldn't look like him and dance in heels like him but still dominate and sell the parts of the Minneapolis sound they create without HIM seeming like the MASTER. lol And I'm saying this a a Prince fan. He was my favorite, but this is ugly. I'm not gonna call any of these guys Prince wannabees, they were his peers. I might call them Prince wannabees if I saw them in panties and a trench coat or some other Prince-isms though, to be fair. These videos are dope and the comments are fun. Thanks for yours.
Also Prince didn't give musical credit to his band mates like brown Mark and
Lisa still hurt that andre cymone n prince fell out she didnt eant andre to leave
She saw that prince was in his feelings over it.
Another thing that peeves me with these sites, is how all these people that were supposedly “taken down by Prince,” so they say, are all living off his success now. They are what we down under call, “bottom feeders.”
The interesting thing to me is that ALL of these people had choices to join and/or stay with Prince. Some left and some got fired or Prince decided to go in a different direction. Lots of bitter statements but respectfully, Prince created careers for most of them whom we may have not ever heard of if it weren't for Prince. They are all incredibly talented but very few talented musicians have the opportunity for success in the music industry.
Prince used them for his gain. He didn't give a fuck if they succeeded after he was done with them. They worked hard and helped the little mutthafukka get to the top
Prince had the right to go in the direction he desired and with the vision he saw. Everyone else had the same right. Do like he did and start your own band. He started on his own at the age of 18. He was the leader.
Andre Cymone, Brown Mark, Morris Day, & Jesse Johnson all had the same complaint . It’s surprising to me he didn’t take care of Andre Cymone.
I'm surprised Brown Mark didn't take care of him🤣
One thing I know for certain Rick James and prince loved them some non-black women and helped their career to the upmost🥶
Andre rocks.
John mcclain really wanted to take everyone away from Prince...was he shunned by prince at an industry party or some shit?
FINALLY! I was hoping someone would see that pattern. Dudes name just pops up. He got Jesse, Jerome, put jimmy & Terry w Janet, and shot his shot w st Paul. Dude is more of a recluse than prince.
Oh, so Morris had to pay Jessie and then from the 50k, huh?? Wow, shame on Prince!
Did Prince make him take the salary? Remember being in a movie was great exposure for them especially when NONE of them had acted before. Prince gave them a band, wrote their songs, took them on tour and put them in a movie. The movie took about 40 days to make and I'm sure Morris didn't divide the money 7 ways, lol. And even if he did that's about 7grand each for a month's work back in 1983. 50,000 grand is equivalent to $138,000 today for a month's work with no experience, so that's 20 grand a piece if divided evenly, which I doubt Morris did.
@@chica4530 You know you sound kind slow my friend no offense meant either. 🙏
However, Jesse Johnson has verified all this and I think I’ll take their statements over yours since they were there and you weren’t!
Also, it doesn’t matter if he introduced them to an lifestyle or audience, it doesn’t give him the right to abuse and make up last minute rules to keep from paying them like he did Morris. But, since you think so go to work and tell your boss that you don’t deserve your check for the work that you did!
That’s just plain wrong and it paints a picture of Prince as a not so nice individual at some point, though I do think he changed and esp so after he was diagnosed with cancer/aids..
@@mrquick6775 Seems you are the one that is slow. I broke down to you what 50 grand is worth in today's market. Again, none had any acting experience so what do you think they should have been paid in 1983? Morris said he had to pay his band out of the 50,000 which includes Jesse so it seems to me Morris kept the majority of the money himself. Also, I didn't know you were Prince's doctor to say he had cancer or aids. It would be wise not to make assumptions on whether I was there or not but carry on. lol
@@chica4530 Just stop again you sound dishonest and delusional!! First of all I’m a musician and I have industry contacts and I’m close friends with a keyboard player that played with Prince and he verified a lot of stuff, probably some that your fragile limited intellect could even begin to comprehend. Yes Prince was all that and bag of chicks, 😀a super supreme musical genius and child prodigy! He was my idol and one of the biggest reasons I started playing and I play multiple instruments too!! 👀
However, he’s still human prone to error, mistakes and being an asshole..
Again.. he stiffed Morris and and it wasn’t rite. Morris only ended up with only 17k by the way!!
But the problem is not how far fifty grand went back then or whether or not they had acting skills are you really this dense??
All that is irrelevant, the people that he stiffed had to hire lawyers. And guess what Eisenstein?? Lawyers cost money! Lots of 💰 so think and use your nogin.
Gessh, I feel sorry for you, but the first problem is that Morris shouldn’t have had to pay them out of that money! It wasn’t I’m the original contract and he did the same thing to Brown Mark when he left.. same shyt different day in fact he was known to stiff people. He stiffed at least five people, during his stent. Although Bobby Z said that he paid him 50k a year and at the end of the purple rain tour gave them each a million dollar 💰bonus. 💯👍By the time Rosie Gains came around she was making $2,000 a week!!😉
So that’s definitely an upside to how he treated others, a milli is equal to about 2.7 mill today..
Also you’d have to be pretty dense to not know that Prince was sick 😷 I mean he practically came out and said it: who writes a memoir at that stage in life, who sends out tweets that says: “Just when you think you were safe”! It will eventually come out and the truth will become known, he was hooked on opioids sure. But he was already in decline and dying..
Btw, stop assuming you are the only one in the know.. Peace be unto you! 🙏
Very interesting very very interesting to hear it from the people who actually play with him knew him loved him and I hate to say it but he turned his back on them bless all of them Wendy Lisa Jimmy jam Dr. Fink Morris Day Terry Lewis and All the rest of the wonderful people who brought us so much wonderful music Alexander O’Neal Jesse Johnson and so many more God bless you all and don’t forget the wonderful group the family and flight time
I don't think he turned his back on them it was just time to move on to more challenging music for him. He had to grow and he couldn't do it with this current backing band. It's like staying at the same old job in the same position for years and never growing. You can become stagnant and Prince had too much music in him and he needed better musicians to see it come to fruition. Nothing against them but it is what it is.
ST PAUL PETERSON KICKING ASS ON THEM VOCALS
So from all these videos I've been watching prince was a damn thief not paying ppl and or giving them credit for anything
I think some of the people claiming theft are confused about what writing a song is.
If prince was older he would have put the time on his label
and then NOT put records out if they were good, the way he took them off of major shows for being good? I wonder.
No he wouldn't have.
The Kid only cares about himself
1982 was the real purple rain not 1984 that was water down version no dez vanity jam lewis was gone
Yes. Purple Rain was like, the autobiography of 1999.
If Alexander oneal was lead singer those love songs would have been more bigger like girl giglo get lonely to n vanity would have been fainted like who the best prince or alex lol
Can’t see Prince vining in the studio with Alex like he did with Morris.
Terry lewis n jimmy jam use prince music n add their flavor smh beat biters
Spot on
And that's what Prince was afraid of and why he said no outside projects. He didn't want anyone else to have The Time's sound.
Facts all that Janet stuff sounds like the Time
Andre was written with prince but no credit that dirty mind n prince was andre
Dr fink did the music on dirty mind but andte wrote on dirty mind lyrics together
Alexander O'Neal vs prince vocals
Close race. Prince has him on range
@@Sinnik22 I agree. I FELT Alex on those slow jams. Peace to another "untalented" artist and songwriter, Monte Moir.
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I'm a fan just like u are but unlike most of you I'm honest with myself and with life! He was a narcissistic little tyrant that wanted a cult!