I don’t understand what my fellow Mets fans don’t get. Did Judge have a trouble to get a market? Did Soto have a trouble getting a market? Did Ohtani struggle did get a contract? No cause these are generational players. Mets fans are talking about Pete like he is that. They should see teams are not going crazy after him. People were willing do whatever it takes with the other players. Teams know what Pete is. Everyone does except our fellow Mets fans.
Pete is the Mets' best option right now at 1B and best option as a power hitter/threat/protection for Soto. Agree he is not a generational talent. Those are RARE! Most MLB players are fair. Some are decent. Few are good. 20 are GREAT. 10 are superstars. Pete is Good and will be for a few more years. That's why Mets fans want him. Add to that he is fun, likeable, homegrown, will get almost all offensive record as a Met, RARE...UNIQUE...that is why many fans would like to keep him. I hope this answers your question
Absolutely nobody is talking about Pete as a "generational talent" akin to Judge, Soto, or Ohtani. That is just made up. Many Mets fans want Alonso back, because they like Pete and appreciate what he's meant to the team, but also because they recognize that he can be an important component hitting behind Soto. I don't think there is much mystery here.
Alonso painted himself in a corner and honestly don’t seeing him getting out of it Stearns most likely go in different direction probably within and more athletic to play the position and see what’s available at deadline in July
Not the way he's trending. Got lucky with a couple live ball seasons. He's a 17-24 million per year player for 3-5 seasons. I'd let him walk. You need that DH slot for Soto in the future.
It’s a frustrating situation all around. As a fan with a soft spot for homegrown players (I also believe Pete brings an intangible boost to team culture and energy that often gets overlooked), I want him back. I think the Mets should offer him a mid-term deal that keeps him here and happy. If anyone’s a villain here, it’s Boras. His advice to test the market has driven a wedge between Pete and the team-it's what he does and to an extent you have to live with it because baseball is a business. To put the Mets in the best position moving forward, they need to get a deal done to keep Pete this year. From there, we can focus on trading farm players who don’t have a future with the team for pitching. If Pete opts out again, we can look at other available options next year-like Vlad. And if Pete opts out because he has a good year, that’s a win-win. Bottom line: Get the deal done.
@@craigbart7086 I'm with you dude, and these condescending people replying are losers. Gotta talk down to make themselves feel smart lol. The saddest part of the RUclips community.
Pete said on WFAN that he doesn't think David Stearns wants Pete Alonso back, but the fault in that logic is that if he really wanted to move on, he would have more strongly pursued one of the other first base free agent. He would not have sacrificed flexibility for the sake of putting on a show about potentially wanting Alonso back. The difference between Alonso and Soto is that there were more competitors for Soto who were willing to make a deal for a lucrative contract
This puts soooooo much pressure on Pete to perform in the field,booooo booooo he better get ready to hear the when he strikes 3xs in a game and taps to short with the bases loaded
Echo chamber? That "guy" Sal Licata absolutely ripped and wanted nothing to do with Pete moments before he hit the HR against the brewers. Then, just like a Fairweather fan, he immediately tweeted his love for Pete. It was horrible. Pete DEFINITALLY saw that and its disgusting.
Glad Evan admitted that fans like him would be bad GM's. Also, the far majority of fan wanted Pete back. Pete Stans like you were painting the narrative we were trying to push him out the door.
What are the rules on trading a player after signing them? Do you have to wait a certain amount of time? I ask because one team that can’t seem to get a star to sign with them and that could afford to give a 5 year $150 million offer to Alonso is the blue jays. But I know they probably would prefer not to have to give up the draft picks. Could the Mets sign Alonso to the deal and then he be a part of a deal for Guerrero? Give Alonso plus prospects and other pieces and get Guerrero (but I would ask for a window to sign that offer Guerrero wanted from the blue jays). Or if we can’t make the trade like that can we make a deal for Guerrero where we give prospects and players so the blue jays can complete and recoup their farm system and then the blue jays just make the longer term (5 year $150m) to Alonso
3 years. 90 million. 30 a year. Opt outs after each year. If Pete doesn’t like it, he can go play for the Long Island Ducks.
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Cohen and Stearns are not idiots. They’ve been playing Boras for months. Why should they give Alonso more than a 1-year, prove it contest. Pete wanted that last year and didn’t handle it well. Why should Cohen /Stearns reward him for a bad year and 172 Ks and until he ran into one in Milwaukee? He didn’t prove it last year as he chased sliders in the dirt 3 feet outside at least once a game And left a ton of runners in scoring position all year. So here’s your deal: 1 year- $30M. And try number 2 of proving your worth it. You prove it and we’ll pay you. But after a full year of flailing at pitches you couldn’t reach with a telephone pole, NOBODY is going to offer you even 3 years for even $75M. Get your swing straight and show some discipline. Don’t automatically take 2 inner half fastballs and then chase outside. Sign for a year, watch how Soto conducts himself in the batters box, and produce. Then you’ll have suitors next year. The $30M is a reward for your contributions in previous years. You are not automatically worth more than that.
Unfortunately or fortunately to some, I believe the GM’s have had enough of Boras tbh. I honestly think they’re icing him out year over year and teams unless it’s special like Soto, aren’t into the 7,8,9,10 year deals. Makes zero sense.
Yea they really iced him out, let’s see, signed the biggest contract in sports history , has 35 players signed to mlb contract this year alone , has the most star players among any other MLB agency still , signed a total of 1.45 million in contracts this off season alone
The Mets should put 2 offers on the table: Five years @ 135 million with a 3-year opt-out...and a 1-year 30 million pillow contract. Forget all of this conjecture B.S., nothing is real until it is announced by both parties.
Man Pete batting in front of Lindor Soto and Vietos he’ll have a monster year. I know I’m not the first to say this but Boras is a phenomenal agent for Stars. Really good players or good players he’s awful always miss reads the market. Pete is 99% a Met but thinking Pete was getting 200+ mil was delusional. Alex Bregman still being on the Market is criminal he’s A very good hitter and a good glove 3rd baseman not a superstar sorry boras he’s not worth 200+ mil be reasonable with your players.
If I hear Hoffman talk about the Mets HR record again I'm gonna throw my phone. Who cares? Lol a 1B who has been arguably better than Pete the past 2 years got 20m a year. You don't double that bc Pete will break a franchise record. Franchise records for a club that hasnt been a contender the majority of their time aren't worth 40m a year
I don't think the Mets want Alonzo back. Also don't know if they are going to spend more money. I hope they do, because they are nowhere close in talent to the Dodgers and other teams.
Can Pete start as a number 4 starter? Cause you barely have 3 starters and a very mediocre bullpen. Please don't give me last year because you got to the NLCS reason. You can't run this pitching staff and expect the same result.
@AnthonyAyala-k4j my friend Anothny it is just the facts. Your #4 is Montas and # 5 is Holmes. Do you think that is even close to good enough? I'm curious to know. I thought your Uncle Steve was going to spend money at the high end store but they rather went to the Dollar Store. Good luck with that staff
@@bruce5402Oh, here I thought you were voicing concern about your team. Stearns philosophy is depth, injuries are inevitable so he keeps viable SP depth. Some teams have a great starting 5 but no good plan if one of them gets hurt.
@jayshiggs no I got you. It's a correct philosophy. However just getting bodies is not depth. Clay Holmes was a horrible starting pitcher with the Pirates. When the Yankees got him they turned him into a very good 7th and 8th inning pitcher. He had one great year as a closer and was aweful as a closer. He is not a starter. He throws way too many pitches and will never make it to 5 innings. Montas, well we all know how bad he has done. So yes Stern has added bodies but they are horrible. The Mets have only 3 decent starters. Unless they improve that getting Soto will give you a championship. By the way ibloved having Soto but as the year progressed he is very much a liability as a defender. Good luck with that poor rotation. Better hope your bullpen excess their talent or last year which many thought was a fluke will not come close. Oh my team has 5 very good startes and is much deeper than the Mets now that Williams a top 5 close is in the bullpen. Comparing the Mets rotation to the Yanks as being better is way off. Those are the facts.
@@bruce5402 Thus the depth. If someone underperforms you can insert someone else. And they believe in their pitching development ability to get the best out of guys. It worked with the subpar buys they picked last year. Raising the floor > raising the ceiling
Pete Alonzo a legend possibilty?? Has anyone looked at his carrer numbers. Plus, he is a negative defender. He is medicore at best. The Mets better have a plan B
@@AGuyNamedMontaga first baseman who has trouble with pop ups and has terrible range but is the best “scooper” in baseball is a “very, very, very” capable first baseman to you? Lol. That’s pretty pathetic.
Weren’t u the one on here in early December saying Soto will never choose “ lol Mets “ over the Yankee legacy and playing with judge!!! Go worry about your teams pitching staff, with fried, Rodon and Stroman , it’s funny how the Yankees need to SLASH money now to sign a player 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but hey u guys made the WS last year, great job, to bad Judge made u guys look like a T-ball team in that same WS
@AnthonyAyala-k4j if you're referring to me, I really don't know. All I know is there is a lot of talk about this player who, by all metrics, is below average defensively and did not have an overwhelming season except the clutch homer against Williams. There are no teams bidding for him, so he will end up a Met at whose price. The Mets are bidding against themselves. Instead of focusing on this player, Met fans should be upset that their starting rotation is worse than last year and they have a mediocre bullpen. You paid a ridiculous amount for a 1 tool player, and I believe they are worse than last year as we speak
@@bruce5402 Hard to take you serious when you don’t know how to use “worse” and “worst.” That said, it’s an ignorant and asinine comment to say the rotation is worse than last season. Senga is back, Manaea pitched well and is back, Peterson pitched well and is back, and the Mets have a bunch of potential 2025 versions of Manaea and Severino. Is the rotation a question mark? Sure. Saying it’s worse than last season is just an unintelligent comment. As for the bullpen, they had injuries last season that weakened their bullpen. Yet, this season they will have Butto back, Nunez back, Reed Garrett, Reid-Foley, Diaz and some others. So your comments clearly show your lack of knowledge about the Mets roster and that you’re just a random, ignorant commenter.
I don't care about the Polar Panda. His name on a lineup card doesn't protect Soto. I'd pitch around Soto EVERY TIME and bank on Pete popping up, striking out or hitting into the dp. He made no adjustments at the plate last season!! I'm over watching him!!
Almost as if David Stearns is a competent executive and understands what the fair market really is for Pete Alonso
Even 3/60m doesn;'t make sense.
Ever think Mets don’t want Alonso back if they really wanted him back an offer would have been on table after Soto signing
NO they def want him, but not at that ridiculous price.
I’m
Sure they did have an offer for him after Soto signed just like there was last winter lol he probably didn’t sign it lol
there is absolutely no way they want anyone else. every single other free agent first baseman has been snapped up
I don’t understand what my fellow Mets fans don’t get. Did Judge have a trouble to get a market? Did Soto have a trouble getting a market? Did Ohtani struggle did get a contract? No cause these are generational players. Mets fans are talking about Pete like he is that. They should see teams are not going crazy after him. People were willing do whatever it takes with the other players. Teams know what Pete is. Everyone does except our fellow Mets fans.
Pete is the Mets' best option right now at 1B and best option as a power hitter/threat/protection for Soto. Agree he is not a generational talent. Those are RARE! Most MLB players are fair. Some are decent. Few are good. 20 are GREAT. 10 are superstars. Pete is Good and will be for a few more years. That's why Mets fans want him. Add to that he is fun, likeable, homegrown, will get almost all offensive record as a Met, RARE...UNIQUE...that is why many fans would like to keep him. I hope this answers your question
Absolutely nobody is talking about Pete as a "generational talent" akin to Judge, Soto, or Ohtani. That is just made up. Many Mets fans want Alonso back, because they like Pete and appreciate what he's meant to the team, but also because they recognize that he can be an important component hitting behind Soto. I don't think there is much mystery here.
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Fascinating assessment !
Do I have double vision with these two?
Alonso painted himself in a corner and honestly don’t seeing him getting out of it Stearns most likely go in different direction probably within and more athletic to play the position and see what’s available at deadline in July
Good job Tiki... Pete definitely was told about that.
If Alonso stays and becomes a lifelong Met. He will be on the MT Rushmore of Queens. He will have a much better post career being a lifelong Met
Not the way he's trending. Got lucky with a couple live ball seasons. He's a 17-24 million per year player for 3-5 seasons. I'd let him walk. You need that DH slot for Soto in the future.
Lindor, Soto, Vladdy Jr is gonna be so much fun next year.
It’s a frustrating situation all around. As a fan with a soft spot for homegrown players (I also believe Pete brings an intangible boost to team culture and energy that often gets overlooked), I want him back. I think the Mets should offer him a mid-term deal that keeps him here and happy. If anyone’s a villain here, it’s Boras. His advice to test the market has driven a wedge between Pete and the team-it's what he does and to an extent you have to live with it because baseball is a business. To put the Mets in the best position moving forward, they need to get a deal done to keep Pete this year. From there, we can focus on trading farm players who don’t have a future with the team for pitching. If Pete opts out again, we can look at other available options next year-like Vlad. And if Pete opts out because he has a good year, that’s a win-win.
Bottom line: Get the deal done.
Enough about Alonso if he signs good if not but everyday news about Alonso not signed yet is annoying
Are you aware that you can choose what you listen to / read?
@cnymjetsc you're so smart. Show us the way oh wise one.
There's no games and it's a Mets pod not a general NY sports pod
Don’t listen ! Is someone forcing u to listen or read about it 🤡
@@craigbart7086 I'm with you dude, and these condescending people replying are losers. Gotta talk down to make themselves feel smart lol. The saddest part of the RUclips community.
Pete said on WFAN that he doesn't think David Stearns wants Pete Alonso back, but the fault in that logic is that if he really wanted to move on, he would have more strongly pursued one of the other first base free agent. He would not have sacrificed flexibility for the sake of putting on a show about potentially wanting Alonso back. The difference between Alonso and Soto is that there were more competitors for Soto who were willing to make a deal for a lucrative contract
You got the timeline wrong on Conforto. He got hurt during the offseason training at Boras' facility.
This puts soooooo much pressure on Pete to perform in the field,booooo booooo he better get ready to hear the when he strikes 3xs in a game and taps to short with the bases loaded
Day 24 of asking for a Shea Station & Rico off-season crossover pod. 2 best Mets pods in the game. Jerry/Jolly Evan/Hoff would be epic.
This better not go until March 😂
Echo chamber? That "guy" Sal Licata absolutely ripped and wanted nothing to do with Pete moments before he hit the HR against the brewers. Then, just like a Fairweather fan, he immediately tweeted his love for Pete. It was horrible. Pete DEFINITALLY saw that and its disgusting.
Excellent Evan ❤
Regarding the draft pick for Santander, they would lose one signing him and gain one if Alonso signed somewhere else.
Glad Evan admitted that fans like him would be bad GM's. Also, the far majority of fan wanted Pete back.
Pete Stans like you were painting the narrative we were trying to push him out the door.
How will the young kids step up if there’s no space from them…. Every position is locked up once & if Pete is signed
What are the rules on trading a player after signing them? Do you have to wait a certain amount of time? I ask because one team that can’t seem to get a star to sign with them and that could afford to give a 5 year $150 million offer to Alonso is the blue jays. But I know they probably would prefer not to have to give up the draft picks. Could the Mets sign Alonso to the deal and then he be a part of a deal for Guerrero? Give Alonso plus prospects and other pieces and get Guerrero (but I would ask for a window to sign that offer Guerrero wanted from the blue jays). Or if we can’t make the trade like that can we make a deal for Guerrero where we give prospects and players so the blue jays can complete and recoup their farm system and then the blue jays just make the longer term (5 year $150m) to Alonso
Why is this called the Rico Brogna Podcast? Shouldn't it be the Evan Roberts Podcast?
Rico is Evan’s favorite Met. He’s explained it many times.
Let's go after glad get him sign him to extension and let get ready for 2025
3 years. 90 million. 30 a year. Opt outs after each year.
If Pete doesn’t like it, he can go play for the Long Island Ducks.
Cohen and Stearns are not idiots. They’ve been playing Boras for months. Why should they give Alonso more than a 1-year, prove it contest. Pete wanted that last year and didn’t handle it well. Why should Cohen /Stearns reward him for a bad year and 172 Ks and until he ran into one in Milwaukee?
He didn’t prove it last year as he chased sliders in the dirt 3 feet outside at least once a game And left a ton of runners in scoring position all year.
So here’s your deal: 1 year- $30M. And try number 2 of proving your worth it. You prove it and we’ll pay you.
But after a full year of flailing at pitches you couldn’t reach with a telephone pole, NOBODY is going to offer you even 3 years for even $75M.
Get your swing straight and show some discipline. Don’t automatically take 2 inner half fastballs and then chase outside. Sign for a year, watch how Soto conducts himself in the batters box, and produce. Then you’ll have suitors next year.
The $30M is a reward for your contributions in previous years. You are not automatically worth more than that.
59 million a year no way !!
When is Stearns going to make a big trade
When pigs fly lol guy does nothing but go garage sale shopping for players
Boras have given Mets exclusive right to overpay for Alonso…..lucky Mets…….
Unfortunately or fortunately to some, I believe the GM’s have had enough of Boras tbh. I honestly think they’re icing him out year over year and teams unless it’s special like Soto, aren’t into the 7,8,9,10 year deals. Makes zero sense.
Yea they really iced him out, let’s see, signed the biggest contract in sports history , has 35 players signed to mlb contract this year alone , has the most star players among any other MLB agency still , signed a total of 1.45 million in contracts this off season alone
I don’t want any GM that acquires Yankees throw away, I am done with that.
Bye bye Pete
The Mets should put 2 offers on the table: Five years @ 135 million with a 3-year opt-out...and a 1-year 30 million pillow contract. Forget all of this conjecture B.S., nothing is real until it is announced by both parties.
Hoff talks about baseball like a 12 yr old. Why not pay Pete in bubble gum Hoff?
Man Pete batting in front of Lindor Soto and Vietos he’ll have a monster year. I know I’m not the first to say this but Boras is a phenomenal agent for Stars. Really good players or good players he’s awful always miss reads the market. Pete is 99% a Met but thinking Pete was getting 200+ mil was delusional. Alex Bregman still being on the Market is criminal he’s A very good hitter and a good glove 3rd baseman not a superstar sorry boras he’s not worth 200+ mil be reasonable with your players.
Let’s get it done and sign Pete!
If I hear Hoffman talk about the Mets HR record again I'm gonna throw my phone. Who cares? Lol a 1B who has been arguably better than Pete the past 2 years got 20m a year. You don't double that bc Pete will break a franchise record. Franchise records for a club that hasnt been a contender the majority of their time aren't worth 40m a year
I don't think the Mets want Alonzo back. Also don't know if they are going to spend more money. I hope they do, because they are nowhere close in talent to the Dodgers and other teams.
Ok if u say
Rico WTF are you talking about
Can Pete start as a number 4 starter? Cause you barely have 3 starters and a very mediocre bullpen. Please don't give me last year because you got to the NLCS reason. You can't run this pitching staff and expect the same result.
Ok 🤡 if u say
@AnthonyAyala-k4j my friend Anothny it is just the facts. Your #4 is Montas and # 5 is Holmes. Do you think that is even close to good enough? I'm curious to know. I thought your Uncle Steve was going to spend money at the high end store but they rather went to the Dollar Store. Good luck with that staff
@@bruce5402Oh, here I thought you were voicing concern about your team. Stearns philosophy is depth, injuries are inevitable so he keeps viable SP depth. Some teams have a great starting 5 but no good plan if one of them gets hurt.
@jayshiggs no I got you. It's a correct philosophy. However just getting bodies is not depth. Clay Holmes was a horrible starting pitcher with the Pirates. When the Yankees got him they turned him into a very good 7th and 8th inning pitcher. He had one great year as a closer and was aweful as a closer. He is not a starter. He throws way too many pitches and will never make it to 5 innings. Montas, well we all know how bad he has done. So yes Stern has added bodies but they are horrible. The Mets have only 3 decent starters. Unless they improve that getting Soto will give you a championship. By the way ibloved having Soto but as the year progressed he is very much a liability as a defender. Good luck with that poor rotation. Better hope your bullpen excess their talent or last year which many thought was a fluke will not come close. Oh my team has 5 very good startes and is much deeper than the Mets now that Williams a top 5 close is in the bullpen. Comparing the Mets rotation to the Yanks as being better is way off. Those are the facts.
@@bruce5402 Thus the depth. If someone underperforms you can insert someone else. And they believe in their pitching development ability to get the best out of guys. It worked with the subpar buys they picked last year. Raising the floor > raising the ceiling
3 years 90 is good
Pete could be the next Piazza
Pete and Santander
Pete is a clown 🤡
Rico I’m sorry but you shouldn’t even talk sports if you think Pete is worth more than 30 million per, he did nothing but one game.
Hosts's name is Evan, not Rico.
Mets don't want Pete there waiting for blue jays to put Vlad on the trading block
Pete Alonzo a legend possibilty?? Has anyone looked at his carrer numbers. Plus, he is a negative defender. He is medicore at best. The Mets better have a plan B
@@AGuyNamedMontaga first baseman who has trouble with pop ups and has terrible range but is the best “scooper” in baseball is a “very, very, very” capable first baseman to you? Lol. That’s pretty pathetic.
And has issues throwing to bases and has limited range lol@@TheKilrmy
Weren’t u the one on here in early December saying Soto will never choose “ lol Mets “ over the Yankee legacy and playing with judge!!! Go worry about your teams pitching staff, with fried, Rodon and Stroman , it’s funny how the Yankees need to SLASH money now to sign a player 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but hey u guys made the WS last year, great job, to bad Judge made u guys look like a T-ball team in that same WS
@AnthonyAyala-k4j if you're referring to me, I really don't know. All I know is there is a lot of talk about this player who, by all metrics, is below average defensively and did not have an overwhelming season except the clutch homer against Williams. There are no teams bidding for him, so he will end up a Met at whose price. The Mets are bidding against themselves. Instead of focusing on this player, Met fans should be upset that their starting rotation is worse than last year and they have a mediocre bullpen. You paid a ridiculous amount for a 1 tool player, and I believe they are worse than last year as we speak
@@bruce5402 Hard to take you serious when you don’t know how to use “worse” and “worst.”
That said, it’s an ignorant and asinine comment to say the rotation is worse than last season. Senga is back, Manaea pitched well and is back, Peterson pitched well and is back, and the Mets have a bunch of potential 2025 versions of Manaea and Severino. Is the rotation a question mark? Sure. Saying it’s worse than last season is just an unintelligent comment.
As for the bullpen, they had injuries last season that weakened their bullpen. Yet, this season they will have Butto back, Nunez back, Reed Garrett, Reid-Foley, Diaz and some others.
So your comments clearly show your lack of knowledge about the Mets roster and that you’re just a random, ignorant commenter.
I don't care about the Polar Panda. His name on a lineup card doesn't protect Soto. I'd pitch around Soto EVERY TIME and bank on Pete popping up, striking out or hitting into the dp. He made no adjustments at the plate last season!! I'm over watching him!!
Good thing nobody cares about u or your opinion,
Let Alonso go.
If Soto wanted Alonso, the Mets would have gotten this done by now.