CORRECTION: Pokemon Home was at one point only available to level 40 players but is now available to anybody. Currently it's not near as bad but it used to be worse than I thought as to get your Melmetal over to Home you'd need to be level 40 which is VERY high. I also now understand why it knows Toxic its baller as FUCK
The toxic reason would be mercury poisoning, right? Mercury is the only liquid metal (at room temp), so it stands to reason that melmetal is made of mercury, which is toxic.
With fast catching and ultra balls in Pokémon go you should be able to get slightly over 1 Meltan per minute plus pinap berry you should be able to get a Melmetal with one or two boxes
It's so fun to joke that Melmetal's signature move has a flinch chance off of a base 34 speed, until it hits you with paralysis and you realise you might have a problem
Really, it doesn't make sense why it isn't a Steel/Poison type. Liquid mercury is rather infamous for that. I believe there was an ancient Chinese Emperor who regularly microdosed on it to build a resistance over time
I was about to write a comment like that. Mercury, lead, *_CADMIUM_* There are plenty of metals that can express their hatred for your organic chemistry in ways other than ionizing radiation or turning it into a metal fire.
Ooh a mercury based pokemon with an ability that gives a % chance of toxic on contact ala flame body would be neat. Could also combine with the ability that makes draining moves take damage instead of healing, changed to any draining move used on it auto toxics the opponent and doesn't heal. Could be pretty fun if it was a regional form ditto evo that doesn't get transform lmao
You're saying that while Melmetal has only been legal in one single format its ever existed in that didn't get in any real competitions. Like, you can use that argument on a lot of Pokémon, why are you saying it about Melmetal?
My pace and intonation is a bit weird today because my throat hurts from the 12 hour livestream and I was trying not to lean on it too hard, hopefully it'll be feeling better soon
Don't forget there's also the event Melmetal with the Gigantamax factor you can get by connecting Pokemon HOME to Pokemon GO and recieving a Pokemon from it for the first time as an easier way to get it
Technically, you can't stop them from saying "Stopping children from saying first," since even if they're not the first comment they would still be part of the effort to stop others from being the first comment. While if they're the first comment and a "first" comment is made, then the "first" comment would then be falsified due to it's intent being to be the first comment. So no matter what the comment is, any comment that isn't a "first" comment would do basically the same thing: stopping "first" comments from being the first comments. Does "first" still look like a word to you after reading this?
Actually, it learning Toxic could be argued that it spreads the mercury it has to the Pokemon enemy's body, and since mercury is kinda toxic, it would poison them.
Melmetal is the example of the bare minimum (okay, maybe the 144 bp signature move with a 51% chance to flinch isn't needed) required for a slow, bulky mon with no recovery to work. Super high 135/143 defenses in one area, an extra high 143 primary offensive stat, a low min-maxed Speed stat that lets it crush the opposition (specifically base 35 Speed mons in this case, like Toxapex) in Trick Room teams, and a good defensive typing. You could even min-max its Sp. Atk down to 30, and suddenly you have a normal ~550 bst range mon. With mons like Regirock and Regice, their typings and middling offenses shut them down even with the former's access to base 200 Defense Body Press. And Registeel, while also having access to a sizeable base 150 Defense Body Press, still has to manage with base 75 offenses otherwise (also, can we get a special version of Body Press for my boy, Regice?). Non-legendaries like Probopass and Bastiodon don't even get to compete, with 75 or 52 in their primary offesive stats respectively and way worse defensive spreads than Registeel - double quad weaknesses are just the icing on the cake. If you don't have recovery options, you _need_ good offenses to survive as a defensive mon (or a broken ability *cough*Dondozo*cough*). And for slow, bulky mons that _do_ have good offenses, a lot of them have added on glaring weaknesses as well for whatever reason. Stonjourner, aside from being Rock-type, has _base 20 Sp. Def,_ and also has an ability that is just dead in Singles. Gigalith, another Rock-type mon, has amazing defensive stats and Attack _plus_ can set up sand, but its way to really take advantage of sand is locked to a different ability (which would then make it unable to automatically set up sand if you switch over; a signature ability would have been nice here). Metagross has the same bst and primary typing as Melmetal, but its secondary typing seems to hurt it more than help it nowadays, and its more generalized stat spread and far worse abilities (Light Metal _literally_ does nothing for it) means that it falls just short of OU even with the recent buffs; although it is currently the most viable of all the mons on this list by far. Machamp and Conkeldurr are very similar to each other; except Machamp is just a worse Conkeldurr in all ways but Sp.Def and Dynamic Punch cheese. Conkeldurr used to be the Gen 5 version of Melmetal, but its power and the viability of its typing have fallen off as the years go on. As Fairy types and fellow Fighting types get better and better, Conkeldurr gets worse and worse as a slow mono-Fighting type: falling to UU in Gen 8 and now RU in Gen 9. For Machamp and Conkeldurr, their defenses simply don't hold up as well anymore, and their offensive roles are being overtaken by mutants like Iron Valiant and Great Tusk, who can either reach ludicrus speed tiers or perform defensive roles way better. TL;DR, they have to min-max slow, bulky mons to the level of around at least Double Iron Bashless Melmetal if they're going to not give them reliable recovery. Otherwise, you get a whole host of forgotten mons that aren't popular competitively or even casually.
Your ability to consistently release entertaining and well put together content at a high rate is impressive, even considering you seem to have it down to a formula now. Great stuff!!!
I've had the blunder choke rap stuck in my head all day while having flights, just got home to this and then you put a reference to that exact song in this video, you can't be doing this
I was not expecting the blunder "burned melmetal doing 22% to toxapex with thunder punch and then proceeding to throw a 5v1" joke, but I love the obscure reference lol
Hi, GO player here. You get 20 Meltan per hour if you're like...unbelievably slow. If you're trying at all to keep up with them as they spawn, you will always get at least 35. If you "REALLY REALLY TRY," you will get more than 50 in a single box. Anyone who knows anything about Meltan grinding will know you should have a Steel-type Mega-evolution active while it's running, and frankly, the time it will take to get 100 unique kanto registrations you _will_ have the resources to do that so it's assumed you'll be doing that every time, using a pinap berry on each spawn (alsu assumed) will yield 7 candy per Meltan, yielding ~350 Candy per box. The box is hardcoded to force a spawn every ~54 seconds if its spawnpoint is available, so this is pretty easy to do. Considering you will only need to evolve one Meltan to transfer a Melmetal to HOME, you can literally transfer all the Meltan but 1 from the first box and have exactly enough resources to evolve the remaining one. I understand this sounds convoluted if you don't play GO, but this type of thing is about as complex as getting something gets in GO and it's really much simpler than getting any specific thing in competitive, assuming you want to do all the training nonsense (that has sparked the "cheating" debate). This is no more complicated than trying to do anything with breeding, EV Training, and finding the right locations to teach the right moves - and the layer of some of these things having to be done in separate games to then transfer them over. I hope this doesn't come off as angry (i apologize if so!), I've simply been playing GO actively since July 2016 and have been playing the main series since i was in high school and dislike when main series players overblow go stuff lol
Oh wow, this is really cool! I didn't know about a lot of these mechanics (and also in hindsight I saw something that said that the box was 30 minutes and then didn't change my number after figuring out it was an hour.) Thanks for letting me know about this, Pokemon GO spawns are something that I want to learn more about because they're super interesting.
Also worth noting: Since this process is repeatable, and you're already going to play GO for a long time to even start it, it's worth noting that there are monthly events that let you get extra candy for transfers. Give all of your undesired Meltan a Tag (like a box system, but GO) with a memorable name and transfer them all on one of those events. I've done this a couple times and the transfer alone gave a couple hundred meltan candy lmao edit: "transfer" in this context is the GO version of "releasing"
As somebody who caught over 5000 Meltan before finally catching one with perfect stats, I approve of this comment. Additional notes: 1) If you want to maximize the odds of getting high IVs, open the Mystery Box when it's snowing to benefit from the steel-type weather boost. Sorry to everyone who lives where it never snows... 2) Unfortunately, because there is no speed IV in GO, that stat is randomly rolled when a Pokémon is transferred to home, so it's all up to chance if you get min speed for Trick Room.
this guy is my exhibit A on why VGC should either have the tools to let your build your team on the spot or just straight up allow mons that have been hacked in (hopefully the 1st one)
I think what made this melmetal process more annoying was the fact that most melmetal run earthquake but the only way to get earthquake melmetal was by transferring it to Pokémon let’s go and using the Tm there because for some reason despite having an earthquake tm in SWSH it wasn’t applicable to melmetal there. Thankfully they patched it so that earthquake can work with melmetal in SWSH.
As someone that checked out at X and Y, that acquisition method is absurd. Also, I assume your name is Tekken reference? Great content and respect for that 12 hour stream. ✌🏾
It's crazy to hear about the requirements because when I got mine, it took the Meltan Box in Go a WEEK to resest, not 3 days. He's also in the slowest "Buddy Group" (every X Kilometers walked, you get 1 candy) 1 candy every 20KM, or 12 and a half miles. Glad it's loosened up for people.
Yeah Meltan isn't hard to get in GO now at all, transfer one mon to home is now available to all, the Meltan spawned by the box appear at pretty fast rate from my experience (or at least using that thing that increases spawn rates), and transferring a pokemon from GO to Home will give you a gift gigantamax Melmetal (and it's not a limited promotion), so basically you don't actually have to evolve Meltan in GO anymore. But yeah it was pretty hard to do it before and I imagine most people don't know about new changes yet.
I think one thing that really helps Melmetal compared to other bulky attackers of its archetype is how despite being so frai on the special side it’s massive hp just fixes that up immediately, combined with its attack stat making it a threat and you have a pretty amazing Pokémon that I hope can be obtainable without needing Pogo
Seeing that I got a Melmetal in my HOME boxes after doing my first transfer was THE BEST FEELING. Now if I want a Melmetal that I can actually train, I just need 233 more candies :)
proud to say i have at least 2 melmetal, one to fight in go and one i used in let's go eevee. for a pokemon that forces you to touch grass to get, it's amazing.
This is actually one of my favourite Pokémon 😅 It's so good, I had one on my gen 8 Ubers team with an assault vest and it absolutely destroyed while barely getting a scratch. Such an odd design that's why I like it
I managed to get a shiny Meltan, evolve it then transfer it into Shield. Whilst I can't use it in SV, I had a blast with it in Gen 8 and hopefully it'll become available to use again when the next games are releases. As for why it can learn toxic, I'd like to think it's because of the fact it is made of a metal similar to mercury, which is very harmful to the skin and also harmful when ingested in any form. Overall, great pokemon and would definitely use again!
Say whatever you want about this guy. It got my Mom into Pokemon Go which managed to keep me going to this day. This goofy mercury golem holds a special place in my heart.
Ah yes, NatDex Melmetal was a very funny mon. In the brief amount of time it existed in the tier, it was one of the only times in competitive singles where Trick Room was THE meta. Simply set up TR, send in Melmetal, then use Tera Steel Double Iron Bash to nuke through everything in existence. The opposing mon somehow lived? Oh nvm, it flinched.
Thankfully, with the introduction of mega Pokémon and their ability to boost the candies gained of the same type, I’m sitting at about 2,700 meltan candy after making a big boy melmetal. But that’s after years of playing and investment, good luck to people starting PoGo now just for melmetal
I'm really bad at maths and was really confused as to how two hits, each with a 30% chance to flinch, didn't add up to 60%, but I think I figured it out
You could get an event Melmetal from home. Not sure if the event expired but you could have a gmax Melmetal pretty much instantly without having to grind in go
As someone who's been playing Pokémon GO on and off since 2016, and is currently "on" since last Halloween: Melmetal is downright impossible to get sorry not sorry, there's a mission that requires you to catch 5 Exeggcute and I'm *STILL* stuck on it, I've only got 2. Hopefully they'll show up more around easter but good lord, I somehow finished the dreaded "evolve a Magikarp" mission before that
I think there is a faster way which let me play GO for only about 5 minutes last year. Pokémon HOME has a mystery gift Melmetal you get for transporting one Meltan over for the first time. So completing the tutorial for GO, catching one Mon, opening the box and then getting at least one Meltan should do the trick
You can actually get Melmetal for basically nothing in Pokemon Home. I believe it just requires that you have a pokemon from Pokemon Go in your box? and then you can redeem an online mystery gift to get a GMax Melmetal
Melmetal makes me so mad because he's one of my favorite Pokemon, super sick mon. But I've never owned one ever. I have 200 meltan candies in GO and I dont pay for home so I cant get more. whats worse is i disnt even KNOW you had to be level 33 to transfer so wow I'm glad I never went further, that wouldve pissed me off. Really hoping they just give him a post game sidequest in a future mainline game
Imagine my joy when someone traded me a Meltan in Pokémon sword. Then, imagine my despair when I learned I couldn’t evolve it. Looks like I’m just gonna do without, because I’m not a fan of Pokémon go lol.
Is it really that hard? I have 4 in go, with roughly 2,000 extra candy and only opened maybe a dozen boxes over the years. If anything he seems too easy to get lol
So, I would love to use my access Meltan candy to trade Melmetals. I've built up more Meltan candy over the years, than I know what to do with. But Pokemon company thought it'd be cute to consider it a mythical Pokemon, blocking it from GTS trades. I dont even think I could wonder trade them.
I didnt know abiut the level 33 thing to transfer to HOME. I play the main series competitively but I play Pokemon GO casually. Mostly in it just for the easy community day shinies. Im glad I was able to reach level 33+ despite playing casually. I think im at level 39 now.
I have hopes that GameFreak will make Melmetal more obtainable in mainline games, especially with their movement to make mythicals easier to obtain on the Switch.
They're gonna sell it as a $40 add-on that also requires a $30 DLC and a $5 subscription to Pokémon Home 2, which is completely incompatible with Home ("lol, lmao" said gamefreak)
i have a melmetal! i thought it was gonna be a massive bother to get but home gave me one for free when i took some shiny charmanders from a community day into home. that being said, i really want a shiny one... if a shiny meltan event ever happens again in pokemon go someone give me a heads up
Now I need to think of slow bulky mons with no reliable recovery that are actually good. Gonna say a mon with 50 or less base speed qualifies as "slow". The first that comes to mind is Ferrothorn, which is unquestionably slow and bulky, but while leech seed would not be considered particularly reliable on most other pokemon, it absolutely counts for Ferrothorn, who can make use of lefties + leech seed to heal a distressing amount of hp thanks to it's phenomenal stats and typing giving it nigh unlimited swap in opportunities. Ferrothorn is definitely a borderline case, but for the purposes of this thread I'm gonna say its recovery is indeed reliable. Prolly gonna catch some hate for this one, but Wobbuffet definitely qualifies. Wobbuffet is quite a good, if not rather meta dependent mon, and no I don't just mean it relies on being in a meta where Shadow Tag isn't banned. Wobbuffet thrives in centralized metas where it can tailor its statspread to reliably counter and pick off specific threats to pave the way for your threats to come in and wreck shop, and it's quite good at that. So good that Shadow Tag was eventually banned from OU and has been a consistent member of the ubers ban watchlist. Dondozo is another very strong, slow mon. While it's mostly known for Tatsugiri Commandeer nonsense in VGC, it actually serves as a very solid wall in OU despite its complete lack of recovery. Turns out titanic bulk + unaware + actually decent offenses is actually pretty good. Notably, it's bulk is so good that it can actually run rest-talk sets, a rarity in modern metas (no, rest does not qualify as reliable recovery. Virtually any mon can run rest, and there's a reason most don't). Last, but not least, Kingambit is actually quite slow at only 50 base speed, and mercifully has no reliable recovery to speak of, but more than makes up for it with raw power, bulk, and sucker punch. It's strong enough that folks regularly request for it to be suspected.
I think the reason Melmetal can learn toxic is because it’s made of mercury. Mercury->mercury is toxic->mercury pokemon can learn toxic->Melmetal learns toxic
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CORRECTION: Pokemon Home was at one point only available to level 40 players but is now available to anybody. Currently it's not near as bad but it used to be worse than I thought as to get your Melmetal over to Home you'd need to be level 40 which is VERY high. I also now understand why it knows Toxic its baller as FUCK
The toxic reason would be mercury poisoning, right? Mercury is the only liquid metal (at room temp), so it stands to reason that melmetal is made of mercury, which is toxic.
With fast catching and ultra balls in Pokémon go you should be able to get slightly over 1 Meltan per minute plus pinap berry you should be able to get a Melmetal with one or two boxes
It's so fun to joke that Melmetal's signature move has a flinch chance off of a base 34 speed, until it hits you with paralysis and you realise you might have a problem
Or if Trick Room is up
@@michaeltabarroni70 Arceus forbid that. A beast with Double Iron Bash, huge attack stat and 51% chance to flinch...
Let that sink in.
Even with paralysis you’re probably out speeding that hunk of metal
@@byzantine5761The opposing pokemon when they get fully paralyzed on a turn:
@@AltShift_MayHem Getting fully parad makes you flinch immune, in a way
"Melmetal can learn toxic which makes zero sense"
Not really when you factor in poisonous metals like mercury
Really, it doesn't make sense why it isn't a Steel/Poison type. Liquid mercury is rather infamous for that. I believe there was an ancient Chinese Emperor who regularly microdosed on it to build a resistance over time
I was about to write a comment like that.
Mercury, lead, *_CADMIUM_*
There are plenty of metals that can express their hatred for your organic chemistry in ways other than ionizing radiation or turning it into a metal fire.
Ooh a mercury based pokemon with an ability that gives a % chance of toxic on contact ala flame body would be neat. Could also combine with the ability that makes draining moves take damage instead of healing, changed to any draining move used on it auto toxics the opponent and doesn't heal. Could be pretty fun if it was a regional form ditto evo that doesn't get transform lmao
@@zuludude2 Poison point
I still read Thunder Punch doing 22% in Kanye’s voice
Can't belive the pex got the whole team shamoned
@@Asamuraidoge and that’s the story of the greatest battle ever thrown
To quote the man himself, “holy shit”
Double iron bash gets a few lucky flinches
I don't get the reference what are y'all talking about?
it learning toxic sounds plausible to me, since this is the only gooey steel type I know, like Mercury
while it certainly looks that way, it's actually made of pure iron
Since when couldn't every pokemon learn Toxic?
@@PlatinumAltariaa lot of mons lost it in gen 9, I think game freak is trying to make stall less prevalent lol
This is why generating your Pokemon is so popular
when mons like melmetal get easier to obtain new shit always takes its place like raging bolt
You're saying that while Melmetal has only been legal in one single format its ever existed in that didn't get in any real competitions. Like, you can use that argument on a lot of Pokémon, why are you saying it about Melmetal?
The blunder reference is perfect
What a choke that was....
Not only a few lucky flinches could let him win this
@@D-S-G. Pex knocks the Meli now it's 'skewda all alone.
@@lazydelibirdhé called 9-1-1 but Mr.Craw was on the phone.
Atleast it´s not locked behind a 90$ paywall and important enough for vgc like urshifu was before dlc 2 and calyrex still is, still surprising
thank god it's not locked behind a paywall
I’d take the $90 paywall over Pokémon go personally
Wait until you find out about how pokemon go has a competitive format that literally is pay to compete in slightest@ElectricWindGirlFriend
@@andrewwojtas8486Pokémon Go…competitive? That sounds terrifying
it is ( i play it)
My pace and intonation is a bit weird today because my throat hurts from the 12 hour livestream and I was trying not to lean on it too hard, hopefully it'll be feeling better soon
No worries, G. You still sounded good.
Only 22 percent? Might need a few lucky flinches from double iron bash
With 4 other mons, surely there's no way to blunder this battle, right?
@@DoinkDeetus Gotta switch to clef so it could knock the lefties
Don't forget there's also the event Melmetal with the Gigantamax factor you can get by connecting Pokemon HOME to Pokemon GO and recieving a Pokemon from it for the first time as an easier way to get it
that was the second, easier way to get it. Had a slight info error which I made a comment about
The fact that blunder managed to catch a stray in this video is hilarious
“Only 22%???” So it seems this man is an agent extraordinaire…
Now I know exactly why it was the greatest fuckin' battle ever thrown
Halting those that might be children from saying "Stopping children from saying first"
on god this comment took me over 5 reads to comprehend
Technically, you can't stop them from saying "Stopping children from saying first," since even if they're not the first comment they would still be part of the effort to stop others from being the first comment.
While if they're the first comment and a "first" comment is made, then the "first" comment would then be falsified due to it's intent being to be the first comment.
So no matter what the comment is, any comment that isn't a "first" comment would do basically the same thing: stopping "first" comments from being the first comments.
Does "first" still look like a word to you after reading this?
why was this so hard to understand am i dialectic
@@mrbtiger4838 yeah i think you could be diabetic
Melmetal actually was almost banned from gen 8 OU, but just like cheapgambit, he survived against all odds.
Just that Kingambussy has STAB priority and tera
And stopping Melman in Gen 8 was easier with 16PP on recovery moves and more Scalds...
Actually, it learning Toxic could be argued that it spreads the mercury it has to the Pokemon enemy's body, and since mercury is kinda toxic, it would poison them.
"And he'll steel, your heart. I miss you big guy"
Melmetal is the example of the bare minimum (okay, maybe the 144 bp signature move with a 51% chance to flinch isn't needed) required for a slow, bulky mon with no recovery to work.
Super high 135/143 defenses in one area, an extra high 143 primary offensive stat, a low min-maxed Speed stat that lets it crush the opposition (specifically base 35 Speed mons in this case, like Toxapex) in Trick Room teams, and a good defensive typing. You could even min-max its Sp. Atk down to 30, and suddenly you have a normal ~550 bst range mon.
With mons like Regirock and Regice, their typings and middling offenses shut them down even with the former's access to base 200 Defense Body Press. And Registeel, while also having access to a sizeable base 150 Defense Body Press, still has to manage with base 75 offenses otherwise (also, can we get a special version of Body Press for my boy, Regice?). Non-legendaries like Probopass and Bastiodon don't even get to compete, with 75 or 52 in their primary offesive stats respectively and way worse defensive spreads than Registeel - double quad weaknesses are just the icing on the cake. If you don't have recovery options, you _need_ good offenses to survive as a defensive mon (or a broken ability *cough*Dondozo*cough*).
And for slow, bulky mons that _do_ have good offenses, a lot of them have added on glaring weaknesses as well for whatever reason. Stonjourner, aside from being Rock-type, has _base 20 Sp. Def,_ and also has an ability that is just dead in Singles. Gigalith, another Rock-type mon, has amazing defensive stats and Attack _plus_ can set up sand, but its way to really take advantage of sand is locked to a different ability (which would then make it unable to automatically set up sand if you switch over; a signature ability would have been nice here). Metagross has the same bst and primary typing as Melmetal, but its secondary typing seems to hurt it more than help it nowadays, and its more generalized stat spread and far worse abilities (Light Metal _literally_ does nothing for it) means that it falls just short of OU even with the recent buffs; although it is currently the most viable of all the mons on this list by far. Machamp and Conkeldurr are very similar to each other; except Machamp is just a worse Conkeldurr in all ways but Sp.Def and Dynamic Punch cheese. Conkeldurr used to be the Gen 5 version of Melmetal, but its power and the viability of its typing have fallen off as the years go on. As Fairy types and fellow Fighting types get better and better, Conkeldurr gets worse and worse as a slow mono-Fighting type: falling to UU in Gen 8 and now RU in Gen 9. For Machamp and Conkeldurr, their defenses simply don't hold up as well anymore, and their offensive roles are being overtaken by mutants like Iron Valiant and Great Tusk, who can either reach ludicrus speed tiers or perform defensive roles way better.
TL;DR, they have to min-max slow, bulky mons to the level of around at least Double Iron Bashless Melmetal if they're going to not give them reliable recovery. Otherwise, you get a whole host of forgotten mons that aren't popular competitively or even casually.
>Melmetal can learn Toxic which makes literally zero sense
Melmetal is mercury, and mercury is toxic.
How you get it is also toxic. So it fits.
It can learn toxic, and it's a liquid metal at room temperature. This can only mean that Melmetal is actually just 95% mercury
Your ability to consistently release entertaining and well put together content at a high rate is impressive, even considering you seem to have it down to a formula now. Great stuff!!!
I've had the blunder choke rap stuck in my head all day while having flights, just got home to this and then you put a reference to that exact song in this video, you can't be doing this
I was not expecting the blunder "burned melmetal doing 22% to toxapex with thunder punch and then proceeding to throw a 5v1" joke, but I love the obscure reference lol
As you can see the Agency is up 5-1
swaps out into clef like he's already won
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend and he has to knock the sludge so he can stop the recover
@@galaxystudios370 but gets haxed on his meli that’s an unlucky blunder
@ElectricWindGirlFriend meli swaps to peli and he died to the rocks
and blunder goes to barraskewda thinking he'll do a lot@@kadachinova5302
My favourite mon covered! its the essence of Pokémon imo, lil cutie blob meltan becomes massive buff mythical Melmetal.
Hi, GO player here. You get 20 Meltan per hour if you're like...unbelievably slow. If you're trying at all to keep up with them as they spawn, you will always get at least 35. If you "REALLY REALLY TRY," you will get more than 50 in a single box. Anyone who knows anything about Meltan grinding will know you should have a Steel-type Mega-evolution active while it's running, and frankly, the time it will take to get 100 unique kanto registrations you _will_ have the resources to do that so it's assumed you'll be doing that every time, using a pinap berry on each spawn (alsu assumed) will yield 7 candy per Meltan, yielding ~350 Candy per box. The box is hardcoded to force a spawn every ~54 seconds if its spawnpoint is available, so this is pretty easy to do. Considering you will only need to evolve one Meltan to transfer a Melmetal to HOME, you can literally transfer all the Meltan but 1 from the first box and have exactly enough resources to evolve the remaining one.
I understand this sounds convoluted if you don't play GO, but this type of thing is about as complex as getting something gets in GO and it's really much simpler than getting any specific thing in competitive, assuming you want to do all the training nonsense (that has sparked the "cheating" debate). This is no more complicated than trying to do anything with breeding, EV Training, and finding the right locations to teach the right moves - and the layer of some of these things having to be done in separate games to then transfer them over.
I hope this doesn't come off as angry (i apologize if so!), I've simply been playing GO actively since July 2016 and have been playing the main series since i was in high school and dislike when main series players overblow go stuff lol
Oh wow, this is really cool! I didn't know about a lot of these mechanics (and also in hindsight I saw something that said that the box was 30 minutes and then didn't change my number after figuring out it was an hour.) Thanks for letting me know about this, Pokemon GO spawns are something that I want to learn more about because they're super interesting.
Also worth noting: Since this process is repeatable, and you're already going to play GO for a long time to even start it, it's worth noting that there are monthly events that let you get extra candy for transfers. Give all of your undesired Meltan a Tag (like a box system, but GO) with a memorable name and transfer them all on one of those events. I've done this a couple times and the transfer alone gave a couple hundred meltan candy lmao
edit: "transfer" in this context is the GO version of "releasing"
As somebody who caught over 5000 Meltan before finally catching one with perfect stats, I approve of this comment.
Additional notes:
1) If you want to maximize the odds of getting high IVs, open the Mystery Box when it's snowing to benefit from the steel-type weather boost. Sorry to everyone who lives where it never snows...
2) Unfortunately, because there is no speed IV in GO, that stat is randomly rolled when a Pokémon is transferred to home, so it's all up to chance if you get min speed for Trick Room.
yea i was looking for this. i used the mystery box to grind the platinum medal for steel types and was getting around a meltan per minute
this guy is my exhibit A on why VGC should either have the tools to let your build your team on the spot or just straight up allow mons that have been hacked in (hopefully the 1st one)
melmetal thunderpunch 22% reference spotted, Agency activated
I think what made this melmetal process more annoying was the fact that most melmetal run earthquake but the only way to get earthquake melmetal was by transferring it to Pokémon let’s go and using the Tm there because for some reason despite having an earthquake tm in SWSH it wasn’t applicable to melmetal there. Thankfully they patched it so that earthquake can work with melmetal in SWSH.
The blunder reference is goated
It certainly has a cool signature move and move name
Melmetal might as well be a cap, dont know how they let such a cool pokemon so forgetable. They gotta rework their strategies regarding mythic mons.
As someone that checked out at X and Y, that acquisition method is absurd. Also, I assume your name is Tekken reference? Great content and respect for that 12 hour stream. ✌🏾
i have never seen this creature in my life lmao
This guy is one of favorite gen 8 team members
infinitely sad we didn't get it in SV bc this guy would've gone nuts in the doubles format bc trick room is really good this gen
It's crazy to hear about the requirements because when I got mine, it took the Meltan Box in Go a WEEK to resest, not 3 days. He's also in the slowest "Buddy Group" (every X Kilometers walked, you get 1 candy) 1 candy every 20KM, or 12 and a half miles. Glad it's loosened up for people.
Yeah Meltan isn't hard to get in GO now at all, transfer one mon to home is now available to all, the Meltan spawned by the box appear at pretty fast rate from my experience (or at least using that thing that increases spawn rates), and transferring a pokemon from GO to Home will give you a gift gigantamax Melmetal (and it's not a limited promotion), so basically you don't actually have to evolve Meltan in GO anymore. But yeah it was pretty hard to do it before and I imagine most people don't know about new changes yet.
I think one thing that really helps Melmetal compared to other bulky attackers of its archetype is how despite being so frai on the special side it’s massive hp just fixes that up immediately, combined with its attack stat making it a threat and you have a pretty amazing Pokémon that I hope can be obtainable without needing Pogo
So, basically like Gen 2 Snorlax?
@@thementalorder1233 in alot of ways, yeah just with the stronger defense swapped
@@Castersvarog I see. That's quite funny to be honest.
Seeing that I got a Melmetal in my HOME boxes after doing my first transfer was THE BEST FEELING. Now if I want a Melmetal that I can actually train, I just need 233 more candies :)
proud to say i have at least 2 melmetal, one to fight in go and one i used in let's go eevee. for a pokemon that forces you to touch grass to get, it's amazing.
"...and Thunder Punch is hittin him for 22%"
This is actually one of my favourite Pokémon 😅 It's so good, I had one on my gen 8 Ubers team with an assault vest and it absolutely destroyed while barely getting a scratch. Such an odd design that's why I like it
EWGF: Melmetal is one of the only amazing bulky pokemon without recovery.
Also ferrothorn and heatran:
That’s why I said one of. Also ferro has leech which is amazing
The gen 7 mythical with no origin (aside from being a stunt to get mobile players to buy a Nintendo Switch and a bad remake of gen 1)
little did we know, archaludon is only the second 2 stage steel type psuedo legendary
Arch isn't a pseudo?
if you read what I said you would understand
I managed to get a shiny Meltan, evolve it then transfer it into Shield. Whilst I can't use it in SV, I had a blast with it in Gen 8 and hopefully it'll become available to use again when the next games are releases. As for why it can learn toxic, I'd like to think it's because of the fact it is made of a metal similar to mercury, which is very harmful to the skin and also harmful when ingested in any form. Overall, great pokemon and would definitely use again!
I always loved his design
I think it can learn toxic because he’s made of a metal that resembles mercury which is toxic
Melemetal is my favourite mon to use in SS OU it just takes hits wacks things for big numbers and has the most baller design ever
This channel reminds me a lot of ELO Bandit. Especially the voice and presentation.
"So you have to grind Pokemon Go for-"
"Yup I'm cheating it in."
Really missing the background music from your test video a while back :(
A great boi :) cant get enough of these lil gooey steel fellas :)
And yet Regigigas still has Slow Start.
one of the better visually designed pokemon in a long time and this is how they make it available
not the blunder reference LOLL
Wow, that's a weird Pokémon in Pokémon.
Say whatever you want about this guy. It got my Mom into Pokemon Go which managed to keep me going to this day. This goofy mercury golem holds a special place in my heart.
Great video!
I got to wonder if he speeds up his audio or if he's just a really fast talker
Melmetal learning toxic makes perfect sense. It's basically mercury
Ah yes, NatDex Melmetal was a very funny mon. In the brief amount of time it existed in the tier, it was one of the only times in competitive singles where Trick Room was THE meta. Simply set up TR, send in Melmetal, then use Tera Steel Double Iron Bash to nuke through everything in existence. The opposing mon somehow lived? Oh nvm, it flinched.
Thankfully, with the introduction of mega Pokémon and their ability to boost the candies gained of the same type, I’m sitting at about 2,700 meltan candy after making a big boy melmetal.
But that’s after years of playing and investment, good luck to people starting PoGo now just for melmetal
it makes sense that it learns toxic because its made of mercury!
I'm really bad at maths and was really confused as to how two hits, each with a 30% chance to flinch, didn't add up to 60%, but I think I figured it out
Can you make a video about speed boost
I really hope they give jirachi double iron bash.
I just like chaos and pain
You could get an event Melmetal from home. Not sure if the event expired but you could have a gmax Melmetal pretty much instantly without having to grind in go
that's the post-2020 method. i have a pinned comment about it
As someone who's been playing Pokémon GO on and off since 2016, and is currently "on" since last Halloween:
Melmetal is downright impossible to get sorry not sorry, there's a mission that requires you to catch 5 Exeggcute and I'm *STILL* stuck on it, I've only got 2. Hopefully they'll show up more around easter but good lord, I somehow finished the dreaded "evolve a Magikarp" mission before that
I'm beyond upset Melmetal couldn't be transfered to gen 9. I would have loved to see it's place in the meta
Mr Girlfriend sir I beg of you please make a video about Cradily bc I love the silly guy and I want others too love him with me
I think there is a faster way which let me play GO for only about 5 minutes last year.
Pokémon HOME has a mystery gift Melmetal you get for transporting one Meltan over for the first time.
So completing the tutorial for GO, catching one Mon, opening the box and then getting at least one Meltan should do the trick
yes, that's the post-2020 method. my script didn't make it very clear unfort
he’s weird but he’s still my favorite mythical mon. I like the giant liquid metal golem he’s a friend
My favorite pokemon has a slideshow about it
are there other mons that can only be obtained by transferring from go to home? seems like an extremely dumb way to lock pokemon
Why is it so good in nat dex?
I hope they make it harder to get >: )
You can actually get Melmetal for basically nothing in Pokemon Home. I believe it just requires that you have a pokemon from Pokemon Go in your box? and then you can redeem an online mystery gift to get a GMax Melmetal
that's the second easier post-2020 method. i should've made it more clear in the script it didn't come across super well
This is a great video but is the Bastiodon mispronunciation a bit or have you always said it wrong without realising
Does this take the g-max melmetal into account?
Very disappointed Mel wasn’t dropped into SV.
i remember i clicked banded double iron bash on a volcarona and it ohko'd
Melmetal makes me so mad because he's one of my favorite Pokemon, super sick mon. But I've never owned one ever. I have 200 meltan candies in GO and I dont pay for home so I cant get more. whats worse is i disnt even KNOW you had to be level 33 to transfer so wow I'm glad I never went further, that wouldve pissed me off. Really hoping they just give him a post game sidequest in a future mainline game
The mystery box will spawn a melmetal about every 60 seconds, it’s not hard to get almost 60 in one box.
Imagine my joy when someone traded me a Meltan in Pokémon sword. Then, imagine my despair when I learned I couldn’t evolve it. Looks like I’m just gonna do without, because I’m not a fan of Pokémon go lol.
Do Gastrodon, vaible in every tier it's legal since it got stormdrain
Is it really that hard? I have 4 in go, with roughly 2,000 extra candy and only opened maybe a dozen boxes over the years. If anything he seems too easy to get lol
So, I would love to use my access Meltan candy to trade Melmetals. I've built up more Meltan candy over the years, than I know what to do with. But Pokemon company thought it'd be cute to consider it a mythical Pokemon, blocking it from GTS trades. I dont even think I could wonder trade them.
I didnt know abiut the level 33 thing to transfer to HOME.
I play the main series competitively but I play Pokemon GO casually. Mostly in it just for the easy community day shinies.
Im glad I was able to reach level 33+ despite playing casually. I think im at level 39 now.
It used to be level 40 but is now thankfully accessible for everyone
I have hopes that GameFreak will make Melmetal more obtainable in mainline games, especially with their movement to make mythicals easier to obtain on the Switch.
They're gonna sell it as a $40 add-on that also requires a $30 DLC and a $5 subscription to Pokémon Home 2, which is completely incompatible with Home ("lol, lmao" said gamefreak)
i have a melmetal! i thought it was gonna be a massive bother to get but home gave me one for free when i took some shiny charmanders from a community day into home. that being said, i really want a shiny one... if a shiny meltan event ever happens again in pokemon go someone give me a heads up
I love him
maybe it learns toxic because it looks similar to mercury, which is known to be toxic?
Not sure why you said it wasn’t too cut in gen 8 ou when it’s S- rank and easily top 5 and was previously banned.
Now I need to think of slow bulky mons with no reliable recovery that are actually good. Gonna say a mon with 50 or less base speed qualifies as "slow".
The first that comes to mind is Ferrothorn, which is unquestionably slow and bulky, but while leech seed would not be considered particularly reliable on most other pokemon, it absolutely counts for Ferrothorn, who can make use of lefties + leech seed to heal a distressing amount of hp thanks to it's phenomenal stats and typing giving it nigh unlimited swap in opportunities. Ferrothorn is definitely a borderline case, but for the purposes of this thread I'm gonna say its recovery is indeed reliable.
Prolly gonna catch some hate for this one, but Wobbuffet definitely qualifies. Wobbuffet is quite a good, if not rather meta dependent mon, and no I don't just mean it relies on being in a meta where Shadow Tag isn't banned. Wobbuffet thrives in centralized metas where it can tailor its statspread to reliably counter and pick off specific threats to pave the way for your threats to come in and wreck shop, and it's quite good at that. So good that Shadow Tag was eventually banned from OU and has been a consistent member of the ubers ban watchlist.
Dondozo is another very strong, slow mon. While it's mostly known for Tatsugiri Commandeer nonsense in VGC, it actually serves as a very solid wall in OU despite its complete lack of recovery. Turns out titanic bulk + unaware + actually decent offenses is actually pretty good. Notably, it's bulk is so good that it can actually run rest-talk sets, a rarity in modern metas (no, rest does not qualify as reliable recovery. Virtually any mon can run rest, and there's a reason most don't).
Last, but not least, Kingambit is actually quite slow at only 50 base speed, and mercifully has no reliable recovery to speak of, but more than makes up for it with raw power, bulk, and sucker punch. It's strong enough that folks regularly request for it to be suspected.
Touching MelMetal looks like it would cause mercury poisoning, so I'd say it learning Toxic isn't really much of a stretch.
Context on natdex ban: tera steel big stronk
I think the reason Melmetal can learn toxic is because it’s made of mercury. Mercury->mercury is toxic->mercury pokemon can learn toxic->Melmetal learns toxic