Our vertical log cabin up north is 80yrs old and it's slice of heaven on the lake. We updated to metal roof, new windows, beautiful and quiet. Loons and Bald Eagles love our spring fed lake. Only 1 neighbor. Our Lake requires NO WAKE zones at 7:00pm. No regrets and hope to retire there
Your cabin sounds like the perfect escape from the hustle and bustle of everyday life. Who needs city noise when you have loons and Bald Eagles for company?
It's on Lake Ann, spring fed lake (Platte River) runs thru it all the way to Lake Michigan. About 12M from Traverse City. The beauty of this Village and Lake is it's only known primarily by people from this area. We bought it 30yrs ago by odd chance. Only down side is we have 217 Lake frontage and smaller road frontage which prevents us from building a 2nd small home.
@juliehebda6840 the Platte is a beauty. Our lake house has been the best investment we've ever made. Atleast for family and memories. It's providing life long memories ever time we go.
My family owns a cabin on Holy Island in the southern arm of Lake Charlevoix. The property up there has been uber expensive for a long time now. If we hadn’t purchased it a long time ago there’s no way we’d be able to afford to buy it now. The only downside to where we are is we are surrounded by ultra wealthy people that are hard to deal with. If you do the smallest thing they don’t like they freak out despite the fact they do irritating crap on a regular basis.
I replaced my septic system. First one lasted 80 years. "Lake Effect" weather is a real thing. He didn't mention at all -- the shore line can recede. Waves will eat away at it. Best is to put a natural plant buffer. Forget sinking logs 13 deep or steel. The natural plant buffer also needs some upkeep. Winter ice will slide up too.
Can confirm - so much cheaper, it will forgive a little movement of the shoreline, and a naturally planted buffer restores so much life to a lake otherwise damaged and sterilized by seawall.
Water erosion is real. I used to work in seawall construction for inland lakes around Oakland/Livingston/genesee counties. Definitely something to consider when purchasing. Not every beach needs them, but if yours does, a new wall can cost many tens of thousands of dollars.
Had a lake house for 20 yrs. Sold in 2021. Best thing we ever did. Tired of everything and everyone. Your points are spot on! Especially the rental info.
I absolutely love living the lake life dream. I grew up in the same house that my parents bought. I understand how much work is required to keep it up.
We love our lake house up in northern lower Michigan, it’s on a 100 acre springfed Lake with tons of pine trees and our place is a three level saltbox style home with 20 steps going down to the lake. It’s a wonderful area , we like it all four seasons otherwise we live in a condo in downtown Detroit and love it there , best of both worlds!
Glad you hit on the lack of Privacy. I'm a Realtor in NY, can't tell you how many potential buyers call asking for a lake property with several acres, they don't want to see their neighbors, private and wooded.. That's the Golden Unicorn if you don't have a Million or over.
A million? On the lake I live a block off of, that buys a 900 square foot block house with 100 foot frontage, about 120 foot deep. A 50 foot wide empty lot, is a half million.
When the ice breaks up in the winter , and it gets windy. it will push the ice sheets waaay up towards your house too , many have been wiped out because of this
I lived on the Saginaw Bay for 5 years in the 90's. The waves would hit the break wall so hard during heavy storms that the waves would crash down in the yard on the opposite side of our 2-story house. Double pane storm windows are a must.
my in-laws had a lake house. the lake was shallow, the fishing was BAD and pontoon rides got boring. at first i thought it would be a blast but it just wasn't so. pretty to look at but then its time to go home.
. We are a technically a block off a small lake, but at least not on it and it's still a bit too noisey for our tastes. I'm glad we far more privacy than if we'd bought a house on it, but sometimes wish we would have gotten something a little more remote like you said. Actually living on a lake is a little overrated I think, especially as you get older.
@@PaulWolfert LOL we live in Florida (looking at moving to Michigan) and this is what I told my hubby and kiddos. There is no gators and NO sharks! LOL
2.5 miles to the bay .... $65 a year for boat ramp access at the local county park. Lake life without the lake hassles/expenses you just mentioned. One just gets really good at launching and recovering the boat daily (as weather permits).
We are on year 10 of lake life. On a 50 acre lake in West Michigan and love it. But I’m a water dog so I’m swimming every day until it freezes over. Ok maybe a cold plunge. Fishing is decent for the grandkids, a double lot for privacy, nice views, and it’s already increased almost double what I paid. The housing market might crash except for lake houses
One other downside to lakefront living-lots of bugs! Mosquitoes can be thick. Lots of mayflies all over your windows. And way more spiders, building webs in every corner.
I thought that was going to be the only thing mentioned when I read the headline! BUGS! Lol We own land in the U.P. This year I said the UP should have a bug report like Maui has a surf report instead of regular weather reports.
The very best thing is to EXPLORE our state extensively, each lake offers an explosion of opportunities. Decide your wants/needs, travel travel travel, and you'll easily find your perfect location. You will be surprised how easy it is with the right plans!
I own a house on Lake Huron. There is a lot of excellent information here and good advice for anyone considering buying a house on a lake, but the title is totally misleading. We have nothing but peace, quiet and privacy, but also no renters on either side of us. Just depends on what you want/can afford, and where you want to be.
(3:29) I think that house is on Lake Shore in Grosse Pointe. If not, it looks a lot like it. (4:06) We live less than a Block from Lake St. Clair. It is not noisy at all, and the only time of year one might hear something is around the 4th of July; and if you don't like the sound of happy people, personal water crafts, boats and the general out doors (DON'T RENT OR BUY THE PROPERTY) and NO you can't hear someone on their cell phone 1/2 a mile away...I think Wolfert hasn't spent enough time on lake properties or on a boat.
If I had a lake house I would go fishing every day that shit is the dream no more asking people for rides to take me fishing I hate living so far away from anything cool I have to ride my bike 5 miles just to fish off a boat launch
I build multi million dollar lakefront houses. I will be building one a lot that cost $1.9 million on Lake Angelus in Oakland County on 3 acres. Many of my buyers got tired of driving up north 4 hours to their lakefront cottages and wanted to live on a lake year round. Almost all of the lakefront houses I have built in Oakland County do have sewer and water lines. If you just want the scenery and not the noise then don’t buy on an all sport lake. Many lakes only allow quiet electric motors. I tell my lakefront buyers they are the worst buyers because they love it so much they never move again so they are not repeat buyers for me. There is something peaceful about having your morning coffee on the back deck and watching Mother Nature.
If you have a lake house, people are constantly looking to get an invite to come over. If you're gregarious, that's fine, but you want it to just be you and your family, you have to get accustomed to not letting other impose.
Especially with smaller lakes, look for any publickly available reports on the health of the like. Don't assume there will be fish in it (if that's your thing) or wading along your shoreline. My Uncle bought a house on a small lake in Waterford and when you stepped into the water, your feet would since a 6-12 inches down into muck. It was very unpleasant. The lake itself seemed fairly clean, but I would have never thought to actually wade around in the water to test the bottom as it looked OK visually.
We have riverfront and bay front homes. If you are within 1,000 feet or either, you are now required to put in a septic system that costs over $30,000 vs the normal $5,000-$10,000. Also be sure to check how many leech fields you have that can be used if you are required to put in a new one. No leech field, no septic, house is condemned until public sewer comes to your neighborhood.
Lake Michigan beach House owner here (with 11 other family members): Stairs, stairs and more stairs! Unless you have a nice neighbor with a boardwalk, you are doing a lot of going up and down.
Lived and grew up in MN and family had a lake property - this back in late 70's to mid 80's. Depending on the lake but many just got overdeveloped and often had too much vegitation along the shores afterawhile. they also became too noisy. But i did like it from Sept. - November and then ice fishing in the winters were awesome.
Also , very important, pay close attention to how "Wet" the property is including the neighboring properties. Not just mosquitoes "Wetland" can prevent you renovations, expansions, filling for landscaping plus wetland can affect your well water if the existing well is too shallow. If the property is wet look elsewhere.
I've lived onshore over 60 years. You didn't mention lake level fluctuation. I'm on a Great Lake and the water levels change almost yearly. It cycles with about a 5 to 8 foot range. Canals can dry up, or become too shallow to navigate. That can bring submerged obstructions into play.
Check if the township/village you're looking at has zoning. Many areas up north are not zoned neighbors can build or do whatever they want with there property. That can adversely affect your property.
You're absolutely right! Understanding zoning regulations is crucial before making any property decisions. It can really save you from unexpected surprises down the line!
Haha, sounds like you're not a fan of the party scene! I agree depending on the lake. There are a few private lakes but you'd need to spend a small fortune to live there.
I was 1 block off a lake in west bloomfield. Water is nasty. Lake bottom mucky even tho it was an all sports lake and used a lot. Many People don't realize that you may end up with well water even if you buy an expensive home because a lot of those lake area houses do not have city water access.
My grandpa had a cabin n on a Northern Michigan lake. He loved nothing more than fishing. He always released his fish. A DNR officer walked up to him on his own land and gave him a hefty fine and a ticket. Also, maritime law states that anywhere water touches land is publicly c property. So, keep dreamin' ....he beach is NOT the property owners land.
Wrong. You can walk in the water, in front of a house, but you can not walk on the land. You can not anchor your boat in front, between midnight, and 6 A.M. It's called Rispatian Rights.
But they like to pretend it is. Too many uppity people with all their boats, jet skis and more. We had a lake house for 4 years and then were done. Newbies came in and bought up the small cottages & built huge homes.....the lake living lost its allure.
If you’re from out of state check to see if it’s on on EPA list. I grew up between 4 lakes, and at that time 3 of the lakes were not suitable for swimming because of industrial pollution. If the nuclear power plant on the southern end or the Embridge pipeline under Big Mac blow we can kiss a lot of lakes goodbye.
Can you make a video about Grosse Pointe and one about Dearborn? Both are areas I’m considering moving to / living in long term. I loved your royal oak video. Thanks!
Hey Eli! I DEFINITELY plan to make a video about the Pointe's and would love to help if/when you pick an area. Dearborn is crazy different from that area.
Dearborn has the best food. That includes grocery stores with fresh produce, fresh made hummus, and it's fresher than major grocery food stores, and far less money. Restaurants there are amazing too if you like authentic Arabic food, and prices are reasonable. So if you move to Dearborn, if nothing else, you'll get to eat very well.
Go with the Pointes. I know the areas. I'd go with neither but if I had to choose. I'm more country, less neighbors type. I have lakes all over I can fish at too without appliances rusting faster on a lake itself. A friend had newer same brand appliances rusting away and mine were still like new not being that close to a lake.
Tiny lots. An acre of lakefront property is 1 million near me. Cross the street from a lakehouse is half the price. Yep lakehouses have a main road and boat noise in the front and back. Jam packed. I avoided like the plague. Flood insurance too.
I live a block off of Higgins Lake. I bought just before Liedenomics doubled the cost of housing. I paid $75,000, which it is now worth over $150,000. The cheapest lakefront home sold for $950,000. My house is 1,150 square foot, and that one was a block house, 900 square foot. Most homes on the lake are worth 2 to 10 million.
@garyszewc3339 It's crazy prices now. It's why I'm stuck. If I'd moved where I really wanted sooner, could've got a lot more for my money. That must be near Houghton Lake. I knew people that bought an old ski lodge in the area that went out of business many years ago.
I used to live at the lake each summer. But the lakes got so completely developed it was just a large housing development surrounding water. No privacy, constant noise, no thanks.
what about taxes? - an acquaintance’s grandparents have lived on a lake in the UP for 50 years, the family would like to keep it as a vacation house after they pass but supposedly if it’s not a primary residence the taxes will go up to $15,000 a year. they’ll have to sell. is there a way around this, they do not plan to rent it or they may not be allowed to so rental income is not an option.
Our daughter has two lake houses in the upper peninsula of Michigan on Lake Michigan and they can’t have a dock because they keep getting destroyed, so no dock.
Especially the ONLY public lake with SEVEN PUBLIC ACCESSES ON IT!!! But we’ve lived here 50 yrs. It use to not be like this. And we are on city water. Almost all of us are-now.
I think you missed the most important point. Septic, lawn and farm run-off is resulting in areas of lakes looking and smelling terrible mid to late summer. Closing down of recreational activities due to cyanobacteria and e coli is becoming more common and remediation of these problems through chemical spraying, bank remediation and dredging are becoming very expensive on many lakes. All complicated bu global warming.
I own undeveloped lake property in northern lower Michigan. I get offers in the mail weekly, for the property. Nope, no house. We have a travel trailer. I will not sink all my money in to a house and be vacation property poor. Last year we spent only one night there. That was because we spent 5 months on the road, 3 1/2 of it in Alaska! I also can't imagine what the taxes would be with a house on it!
2 things. TAXES! Very high in Michigan (compared to Oklahoma where I live now) and beach soil erosion. The waves from storms can wash away much of your front yard. (So don’t build too close to water)
I lived in a lake house in Michigan. Never saw the appeal. Lots of bugs and useless 9 months out of the year. I just dont like the orientation of the homes facing the lake and the approach being the driveway/garage. I would rather have a nice yard with privacy.
3:33 Paul, did you take the drone footage of Jobbie Nooner? That place is such a crazy circus. But, if you're into that sort of thing, then don't miss it in three days from now, June 28th. It's the 50th anniversary.
Now that it's over, have you seen the reports? A few boat and jet ski accidents, with injuries, a few arrests, medical evacuations. It's gotten real stupid out there. For people that don't know, it's a party on an island that's about 10 acres, with over 10,000 boats. To anchor on the shore, you have to go at least a day before, and the boats anchor about 5 rows out. I haven't gone in about 15 years, and it was insane then. If you want to see drunk naked girls dancing on boats, there are tons. The cops don't care, they are only there for medical emergencies or fights. They do have fun arresting drunk boaters leaving the island.
Oh Pauley me boyo, you forgot to tell the buyers that they only enjoy the lake from late Sunday night until the next Friday. Why they ask , well the public boat launch will be jammed up with the loud crowd all weekend. Boats racing up and down all around . The noise and the crowds will make you go in to town to enjoy a quiet movie. Then there is the house that is not right on the waters edge, but on the dreaded" Easement". But that 's an opportunity for another video.
LOL! SPAM! The clickbait is strong! Title is: "DO NOT buy a lake house in Michigan!", then proceeds to list generic issues with lake homes no matter where on planet Earth you buy them and says nothing specific about lake homes in Michigan. Maybe for your next video you can warn us about buying groceries in Michigan while you regail us with a generic list about buying groceries anywhere.
@@RedWingsninetyone The point is that not a single item he listed is unique to lakefront homes in Michigan, any lakefront home anywhere has the exact same issues, yet he specifically called out Michigan in the title as if his video was going to list issues that were unique to lakefront homes in Michigan. That's clickbait.
@@briankolley3550 you're arguing semantics at this point. To me it shows the issues you can expect to run into when searching for a lake house in Michigan. Does that mean they're unique to Michigan? Absolutely not. But it confirms that they do exist here which someone looking to purchase may want to know.
@@RedWingsninetyone LOL Semantics! The title is "DO NOT BUY A LAKE HOUSE IN MICHIGAN!" If you're going to use that title, then you better bring more to the table than a generic list of lake house issues that are not specific to lake houses in Michigan. For example, special Michigan lake property laws that don't exist in other states that can trip you up with regard to allowable usage or allowable construction such as needing permits for altering the landscape within 500 ft of a lake or restrictions on docks, or the potential for lake ice to pile up in your yard and damage your property, or things soecific to Michigan that may impact the value of lakefront property. There are plenty of issues specific to Michigan that were never mentioned. Semantics, LOL!
Moving up to Onaway or Gaylord in like a month do u know of places to buy or atleast rent in those areas need a 3 or 4bdrm. 1 to 2 bath house w lots of privacy
Ii’m 4 miles off of Lake Michigan and the houses are sliding into Lake Michigan. The sand is sliding out from underneath their homes and they trying to save those big beautiful homes so don’t buy anything on Lake Michigan not back covert or South Haven Michigan. that’s a fact then then they got that big nuclear plant, the palace right off Lake Michigan 😢
Taxes on lake homes are only higher because the value of the home is higher than off-water properties. People buying lake front homes should know that their homes are worth more.
@@PaulWolfertyou didn’t mention riparian fees, which are separate taxes (on top of the already high property taxes) paid by people who own lake front property. And those fees can be quite hefty.
I couldn't afford the taxes, much less the house. Taxes are public knowledge, so I have checked some local houses. A newer one about a block from me, is about 2,500 square feet. His taxes are almost $14,000 a year. It's just his cottage. I just wonder what these people do for a living
@@vmj255 Also "special assessments" (technically not a tax), tied to either Part 307 or 309 of Michigan's NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT.
A girlfriend moved to Michigan, and DIED. She was not a partier, but the neighbor was looking over the fence a bit too much telling them what they could and could not do. She had a heart attack, and died, at age 42. I think the lake house created some stress, she had not experienced before.
To answer your question, it really depends on the "Lifestyle" you are looking for. Are you a power boater? or, enjoy sailing? maybe you like fishing? Do you prefer more of a cottage? Is privacy important? Knowing the answers to these questions will allow a waterfront specialist to zero in on the correct area to find that perfect home.
Two more things that a drawback about owning on a lake....If people moore their boats right in front of your house all day...and are talking , laughing, screaming kids, playing music you hate..or are sunning a pasty, big fat, hairy back that you can clearly see, etc...there isn't much you can do about it..actually many boats can moore in front of your house...So there goes your dream "VIEW"as well as piece and quiet..(No escape when you have a headache and really need a nap or your very expensive calming view) If people like that spot they could show up everyday...(You may as well own on the public beach) Also...if it rains or is even overcast for several days..what you are looking out your window out is grey, grey, grey...GREY for as far up as you can see up and grey all the way down as far down as you look... the lake takes on the color of the sky and you can be looking at gray gray gray gray gray gray for days and days and days depending on the weather actually it's very very depressing when that happens........Just telling the truth here
The part that said it's no longer locals or family cottages like it used to be, now it's becoming over educationtized and non-residents trying to push the locals out
Taxes...High taxes...High-as- a-mortgage taxes. Not sure about other states as this video could be about a house on a lake in any state... One thing...one very obvious thing... Is that lake home taxes are outrageous in the state of Michigan.
I just moved to Michigan a few years ago and I hate that most of the lakes in the Detroit metro area are “all sport.” I think of lakes as a place to commune with nature and be peaceful, but out here it’s all about motor boats, jet skis, drinking beer, and listening to classic rock at obnoxiously loud levels.
Neighbors turning their Lake Homes into AIRBNB is a Pain …… Constant VACA - Party 🎉 Atmosphere week after week ….. New Peeps every week and never know what to expect !!!
Update mid 2024...let's see how many of lake front owners will drop their properties due to outrageous home insurance premiums and new flood insurance requirements
Thanks to greedy realtors and a lack of housing, prices have gone through the roof in the last 4 years. Note, as a realtor I wouldn't recommend you to my worst enemy.
The prices going up is not because of "greedy realtors" - it's simple supply and demand. Prices are driven up with people have to compete with a ton of other buyers (because there are no homes available)
The last 4 years saw the explosion of work from home, low interest rates (until last year) and a highly active market. Remote work had a bigger impact on housing prices than "greedy realtors".
Liedenomics caused the housing prices to skyrocket. It's funny, because people not actually looking to move, say wow my house is worth twice as much. Until they realize anything they want to buy has also doubled in price. I bought five years ago. In 2021, my house doubled overnight.
A bigger concern is when the property elevation is such that the home can't have a septic system and must have a large holding tank. It gets expensive to pump that out every few weeks.
Ummmm........there is no place on Earth to live that isn't without challenges or even dangers. The title of this video misleadingly and laughably stereotypical and just plain wrong.
@@stevebrusseau3301 Yes Exactly, I have a home outside of Michigan and a summer home in Michigan. The property taxes I pay in michigan as a non-resident it twice the rate a resident pays. ALSO, if you live in Michigan and buy a 2nd home in Michigan, you’ll pay a non-homestead tax rate, they really get you….
Why would you name the video "reasons to NOT buy in Michigan and then address NOTHING specific to Michigan? Oh yeah, to lure people in to watch so you can make a buck... I won't watch you again.
Our vertical log cabin up north is 80yrs old and it's slice of heaven on the lake. We updated to metal roof, new windows, beautiful and quiet. Loons and Bald Eagles love our spring fed lake. Only 1 neighbor. Our Lake requires NO WAKE zones at 7:00pm. No regrets and hope to retire there
Your cabin sounds like the perfect escape from the hustle and bustle of everyday life. Who needs city noise when you have loons and Bald Eagles for company?
Where is that? Sound super nice?
It's on Lake Ann, spring fed lake (Platte River) runs thru it all the way to Lake Michigan. About 12M from Traverse City. The beauty of this Village and Lake is it's only known primarily by people from this area. We bought it 30yrs ago by odd chance. Only down side is we have 217 Lake frontage and smaller road frontage which prevents us from building a 2nd small home.
Your very lucky. My father had a chance to buy 2 cabins there but declined. I'm still upset to this day.@@juliehebda6840
@juliehebda6840 the Platte is a beauty. Our lake house has been the best investment we've ever made. Atleast for family and memories. It's providing life long memories ever time we go.
My family owns a cabin on Holy Island in the southern arm of Lake Charlevoix. The property up there has been uber expensive for a long time now. If we hadn’t purchased it a long time ago there’s no way we’d be able to afford to buy it now. The only downside to where we are is we are surrounded by ultra wealthy people that are hard to deal with. If you do the smallest thing they don’t like they freak out despite the fact they do irritating crap on a regular basis.
Boss up! Screw them!
Let ‘em buy it from u. Pocket the millions and move within a couple miles from the lake.
I replaced my septic system. First one lasted 80 years.
"Lake Effect" weather is a real thing.
He didn't mention at all -- the shore line can recede. Waves will eat away at it. Best is to put a natural plant buffer. Forget sinking logs 13 deep or
steel. The natural plant buffer also needs some upkeep. Winter ice will slide up too.
Can confirm - so much cheaper, it will forgive a little movement of the shoreline, and a naturally planted buffer restores so much life to a lake otherwise damaged and sterilized by seawall.
Water erosion is real. I used to work in seawall construction for inland lakes around Oakland/Livingston/genesee counties. Definitely something to consider when purchasing. Not every beach needs them, but if yours does, a new wall can cost many tens of thousands of dollars.
Had a lake house for 20 yrs. Sold in 2021. Best thing we ever did. Tired of everything and everyone. Your points are spot on! Especially the rental info.
I absolutely love living the lake life dream. I grew up in the same house that my parents bought. I understand how much work is required to keep it up.
We love our lake house up in northern lower Michigan, it’s on a 100 acre springfed Lake with tons of pine trees and our place is a three level saltbox style home with 20 steps going down to the lake. It’s a wonderful area , we like it all four seasons otherwise we live in a condo in downtown Detroit and love it there , best of both worlds!
That would be amazing!! How long have you owned it?
@@PaulWolfert , had both for 10 years…
Glad you hit on the lack of Privacy. I'm a Realtor in NY, can't tell you how many potential buyers call asking for a lake property with several acres, they don't want to see their neighbors, private and wooded.. That's the Golden Unicorn if you don't have a Million or over.
😅 "Golden Unicorn" is a PERFECT way to describe it!
A million? On the lake I live a block off of, that buys a 900 square foot block house with 100 foot frontage, about 120 foot deep. A 50 foot wide empty lot, is a half million.
@@garyszewc3339the LOTS in Nashville on a lake are worth $1M alone. lmao.
@@garyszewc3339 Detroit is cheap compared to the rest of the country. I’m looking to move there for that reason.
I bought a house NEAR a lake with lake access... seems to be the ticket for people like me who just like to fish from time to time!
Absolutely! Lake access is the way to go if you don't want to pay the crazy prices. Great for rentals too
When the ice breaks up in the winter , and it gets windy. it will push the ice sheets waaay up towards your house too , many have been wiped out because of this
Yup ice push :)
Hopefully, in most cases, the house is back far enough from the shoreline...It's usually the boathouse that gets the ice damage...
Houghton Lake loses a couple every year. Not total destruction, but heavy damage. The lake is wide, and shallow. I've seen ice 15 feet high.
I lived on the Saginaw Bay for 5 years in the 90's. The waves would hit the break wall so hard during heavy storms that the waves would crash down in the yard on the opposite side of our 2-story house. Double pane storm windows are a must.
my in-laws had a lake house. the lake was shallow, the fishing was BAD and pontoon rides got boring. at first i thought it would be a blast but it just wasn't so. pretty to look at but then its time to go home.
I built an off-grid cabin in isolated rural Michigan, 5 miles from a small town with a boat ramp and harbor on Lake Huron.
Best of both worlds.
. We are a technically a block off a small lake, but at least not on it and it's still a bit too noisey for our tastes. I'm glad we far more privacy than if we'd bought a house on it, but sometimes wish we would have gotten something a little more remote like you said. Actually living on a lake is a little overrated I think, especially as you get older.
Didn't know that about the water utilities... At least we don't have to worry about gators up here!
True! That's what I tell everyone who wants to move to Florida from Michigan. Even made a video about it: ruclips.net/video/r-EphtayxKw/видео.html
@@PaulWolfert LOL we live in Florida (looking at moving to Michigan) and this is what I told my hubby and kiddos. There is no gators and NO sharks! LOL
@@sarahs.6457 😂 I've helped quite a few people make that move! Let me know if you need help 😀
You only mentioned the positive of a deeper lake, in that it is clear. The downside is that it is also going to be colder.
And deeper, colder (oligotrophic) lakes tend to be more difficult for fishing, especially if you want to catch fish right off your dock.
In country in Florida we have sceptics and wells. I am glad to hear they have them in Michigan too.
2.5 miles to the bay .... $65 a year for boat ramp access at the local county park. Lake life without the lake hassles/expenses you just mentioned. One just gets really good at launching and recovering the boat daily (as weather permits).
We are on year 10 of lake life. On a 50 acre lake in West Michigan and love it. But I’m a water dog so I’m swimming every day until it freezes over. Ok maybe a cold plunge. Fishing is decent for the grandkids, a double lot for privacy, nice views, and it’s already increased almost double what I paid. The housing market might crash except for lake houses
One other downside to lakefront living-lots of bugs! Mosquitoes can be thick. Lots of mayflies all over your windows. And way more spiders, building webs in every corner.
Yes!!! I'm going to make a follow up video and that'll definitely be included. Spiders are out of control
I thought that was going to be the only thing mentioned when I read the headline! BUGS! Lol
We own land in the U.P.
This year I said the UP should have a bug report like Maui has a surf report instead of regular weather reports.
The very best thing is to EXPLORE our state extensively, each lake offers an explosion of opportunities. Decide your wants/needs, travel travel travel, and you'll easily find your perfect location. You will be surprised how easy it is with the right plans!
Agreed!! What's your favorite place in Michigan?
@@PaulWolfert Munising, and south of L'Anse thru the forests.
@@PaulWolfertSilver Lake, jet skiing on Silver Lake, playing on the dunes and in Lake MI...
I own a house on Lake Huron. There is a lot of excellent information here and good advice for anyone considering buying a house on a lake, but the title is totally misleading. We have nothing but peace, quiet and privacy, but also no renters on either side of us. Just depends on what you want/can afford, and where you want to be.
(3:29) I think that house is on Lake Shore in Grosse Pointe. If not, it looks a lot like it. (4:06) We live less than a Block from Lake St. Clair. It is not noisy at all, and the only time of year one might hear something is around the 4th of July; and if you don't like the sound of happy people, personal water crafts, boats and the general out doors (DON'T RENT OR BUY THE PROPERTY) and NO you can't hear someone on their cell phone 1/2 a mile away...I think Wolfert hasn't spent enough time on lake properties or on a boat.
If I had a lake house I would go fishing every day that shit is the dream no more asking people for rides to take me fishing I hate living so far away from anything cool I have to ride my bike 5 miles just to fish off a boat launch
I build multi million dollar lakefront houses. I will be building one a lot that cost $1.9 million on Lake Angelus in Oakland County on 3 acres. Many of my buyers got tired of driving up north 4 hours to their lakefront cottages and wanted to live on a lake year round. Almost all of the lakefront houses I have built in Oakland County do have sewer and water lines. If you just want the scenery and not the noise then don’t buy on an all sport lake. Many lakes only allow quiet electric motors. I tell my lakefront buyers they are the worst buyers because they love it so much they never move again so they are not repeat buyers for me. There is something peaceful about having your morning coffee on the back deck and watching Mother Nature.
Lake Angelus, beautiful lake, I have been to parties there on several occasions.
If you have a lake house, people are constantly looking to get an invite to come over. If you're gregarious, that's fine, but you want it to just be you and your family, you have to get accustomed to not letting other impose.
Especially if you have a boat.
Yes! Just like owning a pool.
There is only a limited amount of lake properties a great investment
The house about a half mile down, has two campers and a couple tents in his yard, every 4th of July, and Labor Day. I've seen 15 cars at homes.
Nothing like lake living.
Especially with smaller lakes, look for any publickly available reports on the health of the like. Don't assume there will be fish in it (if that's your thing) or wading along your shoreline. My Uncle bought a house on a small lake in Waterford and when you stepped into the water, your feet would since a 6-12 inches down into muck. It was very unpleasant. The lake itself seemed fairly clean, but I would have never thought to actually wade around in the water to test the bottom as it looked OK visually.
We found a beautiful spot on a no wake lake & love it. There are spots that don't have most of these issues. A well & septic isn't a big deal
Thank you for all the great tips 👍
We have riverfront and bay front homes. If you are within 1,000 feet or either, you are now required to put in a septic system that costs over $30,000 vs the normal $5,000-$10,000. Also be sure to check how many leech fields you have that can be used if you are required to put in a new one. No leech field, no septic, house is condemned until public sewer comes to your neighborhood.
Lake Michigan beach House owner here (with 11 other family members): Stairs, stairs and more stairs! Unless you have a nice neighbor with a boardwalk, you are doing a lot of going up and down.
I'm going to make another video about lakes and plan to include stairs and lots 😄
I'm from Michigan and this video was very funny and informative..
Lived and grew up in MN and family had a lake property - this back in late 70's to mid 80's. Depending on the lake but many just got overdeveloped and often had too much vegitation along the shores afterawhile. they also became too noisy. But i did like it from Sept. - November and then ice fishing in the winters were awesome.
Great video topic, you earned yourself a subscriber and a like
Thank you!!
Also , very important, pay close attention to how "Wet" the property is including the neighboring properties. Not just mosquitoes "Wetland" can prevent you renovations, expansions, filling for landscaping plus wetland can affect your well water if the existing well is too shallow. If the property is wet look elsewhere.
I've lived onshore over 60 years. You didn't mention lake level fluctuation. I'm on a Great Lake and the water levels change almost yearly. It cycles with about a 5 to 8 foot range. Canals can dry up, or become too shallow to navigate. That can bring submerged obstructions into play.
Check if the township/village you're looking at has zoning. Many areas up north are not zoned neighbors can build or do whatever they want with there property. That can adversely affect your property.
You're absolutely right! Understanding zoning regulations is crucial before making any property decisions. It can really save you from unexpected surprises down the line!
I wouldn't live on a lake in Oakland County if it was free. Party central, especially Cass Lake.
Haha, sounds like you're not a fan of the party scene! I agree depending on the lake. There are a few private lakes but you'd need to spend a small fortune to live there.
@@PaulWolfertwrong. Rose township
I was 1 block off a lake in west bloomfield. Water is nasty. Lake bottom mucky even tho it was an all sports lake and used a lot. Many People don't realize that you may end up with well water even if you buy an expensive home because a lot of those lake area houses do not have city water access.
"Lots of lakes....no ocean" - think again..... There's a good reason why the Great Lakes are called the Inland Sea!
My grandpa had a cabin n on a Northern Michigan lake. He loved nothing more than fishing. He always released his fish. A DNR officer walked up to him on his own land and gave him a hefty fine and a ticket. Also, maritime law states that anywhere water touches land is publicly c property. So, keep dreamin' ....he beach is NOT the property owners land.
Wrong. You can walk in the water, in front of a house, but you can not walk on the land. You can not anchor your boat in front, between midnight, and 6 A.M. It's called Rispatian Rights.
@@garyszewc3339Riparian.
But they like to pretend it is.
Too many uppity people with all their boats, jet skis and more. We had a lake house for 4 years and then were done. Newbies came in and bought up the small cottages & built huge homes.....the lake living lost its allure.
If you’re from out of state check to see if it’s on on EPA list. I grew up between 4 lakes, and at that time 3 of the lakes were not suitable for swimming because of industrial pollution. If the nuclear power plant on the southern end or the Embridge pipeline under Big Mac blow we can kiss a lot of lakes goodbye.
Can you make a video about Grosse Pointe and one about Dearborn? Both are areas I’m considering moving to / living in long term. I loved your royal oak video. Thanks!
Hey Eli! I DEFINITELY plan to make a video about the Pointe's and would love to help if/when you pick an area. Dearborn is crazy different from that area.
@@PaulWolfert Oh I know it's comparing apples to oranges haha. I'm just curious :)
@@MagicByEli I’d go with the pointes. You have residents only parks with lake access. Plus being so close to the lake it always smells good.
Dearborn has the best food. That includes grocery stores with fresh produce, fresh made hummus, and it's fresher than major grocery food stores, and far less money. Restaurants there are amazing too if you like authentic Arabic food, and prices are reasonable. So if you move to Dearborn, if nothing else, you'll get to eat very well.
Go with the Pointes. I know the areas. I'd go with neither but if I had to choose. I'm more country, less neighbors type. I have lakes all over I can fish at too without appliances rusting faster on a lake itself. A friend had newer same brand appliances rusting away and mine were still like new not being that close to a lake.
I've lived on a large, deep inland lake and only a couple miles from lake huron my entire 43 years. Up north Michigan can't be beat
Tiny lots. An acre of lakefront property is 1 million near me. Cross the street from a lakehouse is half the price. Yep lakehouses have a main road and boat noise in the front and back. Jam packed. I avoided like the plague. Flood insurance too.
I live a block off of Higgins Lake. I bought just before Liedenomics doubled the cost of housing. I paid $75,000, which it is now worth over $150,000. The cheapest lakefront home sold for $950,000. My house is 1,150 square foot, and that one was a block house, 900 square foot. Most homes on the lake are worth 2 to 10 million.
@garyszewc3339 It's crazy prices now. It's why I'm stuck. If I'd moved where I really wanted sooner, could've got a lot more for my money.
That must be near Houghton Lake. I knew people that bought an old ski lodge in the area that went out of business many years ago.
My mom lives on a Michigan lake. One of her neighbors is a ceo. The only privacy his family has is his half acre lot but it's a nice quiet area
Related question - Where’s your t shirt from? Very black and fits well!
😂 excellent question! I have a TON of black T's from Target. Tried "True Classic" and they just don't fit the same.
Just a target T? Wow. Being skinny, it’s hard to find something that fits well! Spent all kinda dumb money looking for the great T
Also, check out the rules and restrictions for boating on the lake.
When buying any house stay away from any HOA
I used to live at the lake each summer. But the lakes got so completely developed it was just a large housing development surrounding water. No privacy, constant noise, no thanks.
what about taxes? - an acquaintance’s grandparents have lived on a lake in the UP for 50 years, the family would like to keep it as a vacation house after they pass but supposedly if it’s not a primary residence the taxes will go up to $15,000 a year. they’ll have to sell. is there a way around this, they do not plan to rent it or they may not be allowed to so rental income is not an option.
That's just how taxes work in Michigan on any home - it's not specific to lakefront properties. Non primary homes are taxed at higher levels
Our daughter has two lake houses in the upper peninsula of Michigan on Lake Michigan and they
can’t have a dock because they keep getting destroyed, so no dock.
That's a great place to have TWO lake houses! I should have mentioned that about docks.
It's true docks don't work on Great Lakes, unless you're in protected bay. Like Grand Traverse Bay.
Especially the ONLY public lake with SEVEN PUBLIC ACCESSES ON IT!!! But we’ve lived here 50 yrs. It use to not be like this. And we are on city water. Almost all of us are-now.
Northern Michigan lakefront property is the best investment in the State, regardless of what this genius thinks
I think you missed the most important point. Septic, lawn and farm run-off is resulting in areas of lakes looking and smelling terrible mid to late summer. Closing down of recreational activities due to cyanobacteria and e coli is becoming more common and remediation of these problems through chemical spraying, bank remediation and dredging are becoming very expensive on many lakes. All complicated bu global warming.
How about actor Jeff Daniel's Chelsea mi. Or where Ted nugget lived in Jackson mi.
Those would be good for another celeb vid! I did hear that Ted Nugent moved away though
I've done the Inland Lake thing here in Michigan, highly overrated and by the end of summer most of those Lakes usually stink
From what?
Couldn’t agree more ..it’s a status thing..everyone in competition it’s nauseating ..so glad to be out of that cesspool
Good info. No Lake frontage for me.
I hate lakes live in michigan on a lake instead of HOA try dealing with the lake association 😅
I own undeveloped lake property in northern lower Michigan. I get offers in the mail weekly, for the property. Nope, no house. We have a travel trailer. I will not sink all my money in to a house and be vacation property poor. Last year we spent only one night there. That was because we spent 5 months on the road, 3 1/2 of it in Alaska! I also can't imagine what the taxes would be with a house on it!
Loud and/or weed using neighbors are definitely a nightmare for me but the other thing I am concerned about when it comes to lakes is Mosquitos!!!
2 things. TAXES! Very high in Michigan (compared to Oklahoma where I live now) and beach soil erosion. The waves from storms can wash away much of your front yard. (So don’t build too close to water)
You don’t have big lakes in Oklahoma and Michigan does.
@@Frannieville actually Oklahoma does. Lake Eufaula has 600 miles of shoreline and covers 159 square miles .
I lived in a lake house in Michigan. Never saw the appeal. Lots of bugs and useless 9 months out of the year. I just dont like the orientation of the homes facing the lake and the approach being the driveway/garage. I would rather have a nice yard with privacy.
3:33 Paul, did you take the drone footage of Jobbie Nooner? That place is such a crazy circus. But, if you're into that sort of thing, then don't miss it in three days from now, June 28th. It's the 50th anniversary.
Now that it's over, have you seen the reports? A few boat and jet ski accidents, with injuries, a few arrests, medical evacuations. It's gotten real stupid out there. For people that don't know, it's a party on an island that's about 10 acres, with over 10,000 boats. To anchor on the shore, you have to go at least a day before, and the boats anchor about 5 rows out. I haven't gone in about 15 years, and it was insane then. If you want to see drunk naked girls dancing on boats, there are tons. The cops don't care, they are only there for medical emergencies or fights. They do have fun arresting drunk boaters leaving the island.
Did I miss your discussion of the pros/cons of "All Sports Lakes?"
No...but it's a great idea for a video. They're all fun and games until your paddle board gets flipped by a wake boat 🌊
Where can I check which cities or counties don’t allow renting?
I wish there was a site that listed them all. Your agent will need to do research on each house. I can help if you're looking in my zone! Movingmi.com
Oh Pauley me boyo, you forgot to tell the buyers that they only enjoy the lake from late Sunday night until the next Friday.
Why they ask , well the public boat launch will be jammed up with the loud crowd all weekend. Boats racing up and down all around .
The noise and the crowds will make you go in to town to enjoy a quiet movie.
Then there is the house that is not right on the waters edge, but on the dreaded" Easement". But that 's an opportunity for another video.
LOL! SPAM! The clickbait is strong! Title is: "DO NOT buy a lake house in Michigan!", then proceeds to list generic issues with lake homes no matter where on planet Earth you buy them and says nothing specific about lake homes in Michigan. Maybe for your next video you can warn us about buying groceries in Michigan while you regail us with a generic list about buying groceries anywhere.
Thank you!!!!
His channel is kind of Detroit-centralized so it isn't really clickbait.
@@RedWingsninetyone The point is that not a single item he listed is unique to lakefront homes in Michigan, any lakefront home anywhere has the exact same issues, yet he specifically called out Michigan in the title as if his video was going to list issues that were unique to lakefront homes in Michigan. That's clickbait.
@@briankolley3550 you're arguing semantics at this point. To me it shows the issues you can expect to run into when searching for a lake house in Michigan. Does that mean they're unique to Michigan? Absolutely not. But it confirms that they do exist here which someone looking to purchase may want to know.
@@RedWingsninetyone LOL Semantics! The title is "DO NOT BUY A LAKE HOUSE IN MICHIGAN!" If you're going to use that title, then you better bring more to the table than a generic list of lake house issues that are not specific to lake houses in Michigan. For example, special Michigan lake property laws that don't exist in other states that can trip you up with regard to allowable usage or allowable construction such as needing permits for altering the landscape within 500 ft of a lake or restrictions on docks, or the potential for lake ice to pile up in your yard and damage your property, or things soecific to Michigan that may impact the value of lakefront property. There are plenty of issues specific to Michigan that were never mentioned. Semantics, LOL!
Lake Michigan is beautiful
Agreed! One of the best lakes in Michigan!
But the western wind is chilly year round.
Are you serious? You can hear someones convo like half a mile away. That's freaking awesome…😊 but wait without any listening device..😮
Moving up to Onaway or Gaylord in like a month do u know of places to buy or atleast rent in those areas need a 3 or 4bdrm. 1 to 2 bath house w lots of privacy
Did you find anything yet? They’re building like crazy around there.
Ii’m 4 miles off of Lake Michigan and the houses are sliding into Lake Michigan. The sand is sliding out from underneath their homes and they trying to save those big beautiful homes so don’t buy anything on Lake Michigan not back covert or South Haven Michigan. that’s a fact then then they got that big nuclear plant, the palace right off Lake Michigan 😢
taxes are high.
Taxes on lake homes are only higher because the value of the home is higher than off-water properties. People buying lake front homes should know that their homes are worth more.
@@PaulWolfertyou didn’t mention riparian fees, which are separate taxes (on top of the already high property taxes) paid by people who own lake front property. And those fees can be quite hefty.
I couldn't afford the taxes, much less the house. Taxes are public knowledge, so I have checked some local houses. A newer one about a block from me, is about 2,500 square feet. His taxes are almost $14,000 a year. It's just his cottage. I just wonder what these people do for a living
@@vmj255 Also "special assessments" (technically not a tax), tied to either Part 307 or 309 of Michigan's NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT.
Are they cold waters ?
thanks bro, im from Indonesia and appreciated for your video, coz i just bougt house beside lake
Glad I could help! Contrats on the new home!
Those are the same issues hat you would have buying a lake house anywhere in the us pretty much .
Freakonomics authors studied home pools (which applies to lakes) and found for young children a pool was more dangerous than firearms in the home.
A girlfriend moved to Michigan, and DIED. She was not a partier, but the neighbor was looking over the fence a bit too much telling them what they could and could not do. She had a heart attack, and died, at age 42. I think the lake house created some stress, she had not experienced before.
So sad.
What would be the best lake area in your experience (property safety, bigger lots etc) in Metro Detroit?
It depends on what you'd like to spend 😄 - send an email my way! paul@movingmi.com
To answer your question, it really depends on the "Lifestyle" you are looking for. Are you a power boater? or, enjoy sailing? maybe you like fishing? Do you prefer more of a cottage? Is privacy important? Knowing the answers to these questions will allow a waterfront specialist to zero in on the correct area to find that perfect home.
Only lake would be Lake St. Clair.
St. Clair Shores or Harrison Township.
Two more things that a drawback about owning on a lake....If people moore their boats right in front of your house all day...and are talking , laughing, screaming kids, playing music you hate..or are sunning a pasty, big fat, hairy back that you can clearly see, etc...there isn't much you can do about it..actually many boats can moore in front of your house...So there goes your dream "VIEW"as well as piece and quiet..(No escape when you have a headache and really need a nap or your very expensive calming view) If people like that spot they could show up everyday...(You may as well own on the public beach)
Also...if it rains or is even overcast for several days..what you are looking out your window out is grey, grey, grey...GREY for as far up as you can see up and grey all the way down as far down as you look... the lake takes on the color of the sky and you can be looking at gray gray gray gray gray gray for days and days and days depending on the weather actually it's very very depressing when that happens........Just telling the truth here
I live in MI!
This isn’t real good publicity for us!
The part that said it's no longer locals or family cottages like it used to be, now it's becoming over educationtized and non-residents trying to push the locals out
Property taxes are insane.
Taxes...High taxes...High-as- a-mortgage taxes.
Not sure about other states as this video could be about a house on a lake in any state...
One thing...one very obvious thing...
Is that lake home taxes are outrageous in the state of Michigan.
I just moved to Michigan a few years ago and I hate that most of the lakes in the Detroit metro area are “all sport.” I think of lakes as a place to commune with nature and be peaceful, but out here it’s all about motor boats, jet skis, drinking beer, and listening to classic rock at obnoxiously loud levels.
Usually depends on the day/time. Did you buy a place on a lake? The lakes are usually peaceful and dead during the week.
Many in Oakland County are not all sports lakes.
Sounds like the cons severely outweigh the benefits of looking at lakewater
Are ‘clickbait’ video titles now a RUclips prerequisite? 🤷🏽♂️
Neighbors turning their Lake Homes into AIRBNB is a Pain ……
Constant VACA - Party 🎉 Atmosphere week after week ….. New Peeps every week and never know what to expect !!!
We own a lake home that we Airbnb and the guests have been fantastic. Only one party 🤷♂️
You missed one. If you’re buying a vacation home in Mi the property taxes will rock your world! And If you can’t rent it you will cry!
Update mid 2024...let's see how many of lake front owners will drop their properties due to outrageous home insurance premiums and new flood insurance requirements
Thanks to greedy realtors and a lack of housing, prices have gone through the roof in the last 4 years.
Note, as a realtor I wouldn't recommend you to my worst enemy.
The prices going up is not because of "greedy realtors" - it's simple supply and demand. Prices are driven up with people have to compete with a ton of other buyers (because there are no homes available)
The last 4 years saw the explosion of work from home, low interest rates (until last year) and a highly active market. Remote work had a bigger impact on housing prices than "greedy realtors".
Liedenomics caused the housing prices to skyrocket. It's funny, because people not actually looking to move, say wow my house is worth twice as much. Until they realize anything they want to buy has also doubled in price. I bought five years ago. In 2021, my house doubled overnight.
Oh no!!! A well? A septic? Welcome to the majority of rural Michigan…..
A bigger concern is when the property elevation is such that the home can't have a septic system and must have a large holding tank. It gets expensive to pump that out every few weeks.
No freaking way!
Ummmm........there is no place on Earth to live that isn't without challenges or even dangers. The title of this video misleadingly and laughably stereotypical and just plain wrong.
You forgot TAXES! If you are not a full time Michigan resident you’ll pay the non-homestead taxes.
You mean if it's not your primary mi. resident you will pay nonhomestead which is double $
@@stevebrusseau3301 Yes Exactly, I have a home outside of Michigan and a summer home in Michigan. The property taxes I pay in michigan as a non-resident it twice the rate a resident pays. ALSO, if you live in Michigan and buy a 2nd home in Michigan, you’ll pay a non-homestead tax rate, they really get you….
The best thing to buy in Michigan is a plane ticket to somewhere else.
Silly click bait title will no material concerns in the video.
"no material concerns in the video"? I point out real things people need to know before buying a lake house.
One word: Mold
Dont buy a lake house anywhere.
Shity advice
Last thing should have been, do not buy a lake house in michigan. michigan sucks
🤷♂️ I don't agree. We love our lake house.
Why would you name the video "reasons to NOT buy in Michigan and then address NOTHING specific to Michigan? Oh yeah, to lure people in to watch so you can make a buck... I won't watch you again.