On top of that, nfl is a hypocrite. Let’s throw a flag on somebody who is being tackled legally, but not on a QB who is sliding and gets hit when he’s on the ground
Same. Michael was making a terrible argument. You can't say, "If he hit his head...," because if that's the measuring stick for a legal tackle, then no tackle can be made in the NFL, because a player can hit their head in any tackle. Any time you go to the ground, you could possibly hit your head. It was just a ridiculous argument, and I am ashamed that he even bothered to try to make that argument.
Literally it is enfuriating to listen to him defend him. ‘Tua di….’ TUA SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN PLAYED!!!! If you cannot tackle someone like that make it across the board then. And in another 4 years, there will be no such thing as a legal tackle. It literally states in the rule book that unnecessary or excessive force is a 15 yard penalty… which literally happens on every nfl play. I’m disgusted by the rigged league. I hate to take it there but there is no dodging it anymore. This is what the nfl has set themselves up to become. A rich racist billionaire boys club, that controls literally a day out of every week from us
you mean after he tried to tea bag him. haha he purposly stepped over top of him. i dont agree with the call at all. but if you step on top of me your getting my foot. period
Well Josh Allen did the Same thing against the Baltimore Ravens Once he was Tackled he sat on the Ground and looked around for the Officials and threw his Hands up and the saw him thew the Flag ..
Not only was this one of the worse roughing the passing calls this season, the last 10 years, maybe ever, but the refs explanation afterwards was embarrassing. To say that Grady Jarrett " unnecessarily " threw Tom Brady to the ground ( which is the definition of a tackle btw) is such a lame, pathetic cop-out for such a horrible call. The falcons got robbed and I'm not even a Atlanta fan 😒
*Bucs repeatedly made the same sack by whipping the QB to the ground and no flag was thrown* At 11:23 of the 1st quarter, Bucs sack Falcon QB in the very same way and no flag is thrown. And at 11:57 of the 3rd quarter, yet another identical sack is made by the Bucs with no flag. In both cases, Buc defender whips Marcus Mariota to the ground. At 4:10 of the 3rd quarter, A Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB and draws no penalty flag. At 11:08 of the 4th quarter, a Buc whips Mariota to the ground and another then Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB. No penalty flag. So as we see, the penalty flag on Grady Jarret was totally unjustified.
the way jarrett tackled him, he actually broke Brady's fall. even if you have never played football, you can see that this is one of the gentler ways you can tackle someone.
The Falcons realistically been playing good football and if y’all watching them you’ll understand . The he momentum was all on our side we could’ve won that game
I love how everyone is hyperfocusing on that bad call and pretending like it was not a MAKE UP CALL for literally the play before it where there was CLEAR and OBVIOUS pass interference on Scotty Miller.... LOL
@@phoqyu4721 he turned he head around which of u know the correct rule and played corner you would understand he would’ve been penalized if he didn’t do that head turn around.
They're last year's Lions. They have been competitive in every single game. The problem is they wait too long to get going. Can't fall behind double digits every week and expect to always come back.
I guess if it's a penalty on brady it should be on Lamar as well, but I don't think either play was bad personally. It's football, supposed to be rough.
*Bucs repeatedly made the same sack by whipping the QB to the ground and no flag was thrown* At 11:23 of the 1st quarter, Bucs sack Falcon QB in the very same way and no flag is thrown. And at 11:57 of the 3rd quarter, yet another identical sack is made by the Bucs with no flag. In both cases, Buc defender whips Marcus Mariota to the ground. At 4:10 of the 3rd quarter, A Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB and draws no penalty flag. At 11:08 of the 4th quarter, a Buc whips Mariota to the ground and another then Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB. No penalty flag. So as we see, the penalty flag on Grady Jarret was totally unjustified.
It was a make up call from the play before where pass interference should have been called on the pass to Scotty Miller.... I mean i know everyone has the memory of goldfish nowadays but come on it is literally the play before. Yeah sure the roughing the passer was a bad call but make up calls are a real thing, and it was better for the Falcons then if they had actually called PI.... So suck it up 28-3
This wasn’t even the only bad call 3 plays earlier the Falcons stopped Brady on 3rd down and the refs called holding on Terell and he didn’t even touch Evans!!! Evans flopped and drew the call then the Falcons stop them again and this BS roughing call!!! So the refs definitely helped and wanted Bucs to win because they don’t want the Falcons to win because they aren’t a major market!!!!!!!
Are you completely ignoring the DPI that the refs didn’t call the play earlier that would have iced the game for the bucs? This was a makeup call. The falcons wouldn’t have won anyways. The bucs demolished them. Almost 2x the yards and they were up by multiple scores the entire game. Bucs won that game easily.
Irving back to playing with his nose 😂 I like how Brady is still playing this late in life, but if that’s a legit call they need to just give Brady 2 flags and tell defenses you can’t hit him on remove his flags
I'm so glad you guys are discussing this, cause I'm literally sick of this crybaby, getting all these ridiculous calls, let the teams play a fair game! Brady kicks him, and of course hardly nobody says anything about that, horrible call!😡😠
Look at the scheduling for the Bucs, and their "tough" out of division games being at home. the NFL is doing everything they can to help Brady get a SB win on the way out. Its a great story line
@@JC-db7so Hmmmm!! Not hitting QBs below the Knee, Not being allowed to put your body weight on QB during a sack and When the QB is holding the ball to pass it forward any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass even if the player loses the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward to his body it’s not a fumble. I’ll let you guess the names Mr. Smarta**. 🤣🤣
At some point, it's just a work hazard. You can't prevent 100% of concussions in a violent sport. Flinging a player to the ground is just something that can happen in the course of the game. What happened to Tua was unfortunate, but it's a risk you take playing the sport. The only question I have surrounding the Tua incident is should he have been out there in the 1st place given the hit he took in the previous game.
Thank you. They're playing a contact sport. Someone is going to get hurt. It's the cost of playing a physical sport. Instead of enforcing stricter protocols, they chose to make the game softer. Ridiculous. This is going to get unwatchable here if they keep this 💩 up.
@James Stocks Umm no. Millennials just care about players leaving comfortably passed 50. Look up how Frank Wycheck is doing. It’s really sad. Attributing that call to millennials is ridiculous. That was clearly an overreaction to Tua which makes no sense. Ppl weren’t complaining about the hit on Tua, we were complaining about putting him back in the game when he clearly showed signs of a concussion. These are two separate issues the are being conflated when they shouldn’t be. The only reason that was called was bc it was Tom Brady. Lamar had the same thing happen to him and there was no call. It’s to the point where roughing the passer needs to be reviewable by replay or you’re going to have to make it a penalty when QB’s are wrapped up and refuse to go down trying to save the play.
@@alcoballic9593 I’m a millennial and I want my dads football back. If it means Brady dies, he dies. Jack Tatum killed a man in a game (go Raiders) and I want more of that. The entire sport will be better. Instead we’ve taken a liberal approach: let’s ruin everything for the few outliers.
Irvin, love yah, but people did not kill the guy who sacked Tua over that concussion. You're claiming the player and maybe the NFL would get killed over not throwing a flag - the NFL wasn't killed over Tua's concussion play NOT being a flag. The NFL got killed by media and fans alike, because the kind of concusion he got typically occurs when you get hit in the head while already having a concussion. They weren't killing them over that play, that play lead people to kill the NFL over the week prior, when the MEDICAL TEAM from both the Dolphins and the NFL's independent doctors both clear Tua to not only get ack on the field last week, but to not even consider a concussion after the game and allow tua to play on short rest without going through the protocol. the NFL was not killed over the hit and no flag. They were killed over Tua being cleared to play in the first place. Ain't nobody killing the NFL over how defenders are tackling QB's, and all the rule changes the NFL made to protect QB's was never about how the media and fans reacted. A lot of fans actually disliked the rule changes because it makes it so hard for defenders to actually sack a QB. It was a fault in the medical side that pissed people off. Not the hit, sack, and no flag. Nobody was actually mad about the lack of a flag. You have to be able tackle the QB, or what are we doing?
My thing is if Irvin is talking about ruthless contact, two things 1. They sign up for this type of contact in middle school football. Literally hitting each other so don’t act as if this is all new to the sport. 2. We have to define reckless contact that involves endangerment to the player cause then otherwise everyone is right and their version of rough contact gets called (which btw has already been defined for us in the way that they can’t target headshots, or any wrestling-esk moves that will cause severe injury) Dude he could’ve tripped Tom Brady and Brady walks out with an ankle injury you can’t just not touch them cause injuries are a concern, you play with that risk. Done
stephan A did make a great point when he said why is brady looking at the ref. and he did.brady was mad because he got sacked and gets angry at the defender. i really cannot stand that little whiny girl. that was the worst call ive ever seen!
Ppl forget what Eli manning did. Literally won the SB cuz the refs weren't over babying. Tom has gotten game winning calls his whole career. We all know Tom wudnt be TB w/o the "tuck rule". His legacy literally began with a blown call. He was the ultimate feel good story that year. NFL wasn't gonna let him lose that game.
That’s a terrible suggestion to stop the play when the qb gets grabbed. Guys like Lamar, kyler, josh Allen, etc. won’t be able to extend plays like they are known for doing
In other news the Eagles are championship caliber and on their way to another Super Bowl oh yes!! I wish all of youse guys good health and prosperity. Greetings from lovely and fabulous NJ. - Gary.
This call is on the level of the Chicago call for taunting last year bad.... It makes you wonder if that's the reason why a lot of these defenses are playing loose this year? If they're afraid that anything that they do may be called for penalty?
It really was just an unexpected accident with tua his size and weight affected his outcome same as Brady but this was the cleanest way that I’ve seen to sack a qb and they still threw a flag … falcons got cheated out of a well deserved chance to win the game
Tua never fully recovered from his previous concussion Brady didn’t walk in the game with a concussion so regardless of how it looked he wouldn’t have been out like Tua
If a defender is not allowed to "fall on" the QB without drawing a penalty, it stands to reason that the defender must grab the QB by the torso and "apply torque" to ensure the QB lands on top of self (the defensive player). I call it the "alligator roll". And, with it, of course the QB's body, and head, are going to get whipped around. There is no alternative.
Still too dangerous bro what happens if they bump into the qb? It’s a 15 yard penalty NOW if your hand touches the qbs helmet. Honestly you should feel ashamed that you even thought flag football would be safe for a football player.
I think it would just be safer just to not rush the qb. I think it’s safer if the defense would not be allowed inside the tackle box like they do intentional grounding. Just to make the game ‘mOrE sAfE’. 👍🏼
Steeler fan for over 50 years, so I have no dog in this hunt. I watched the play from multiple sources and came two conclusions: Make Tom Brady play in a dress once and for all, so calls like this make sense AND the NFL may have a Donaghy situation. CTE is a serious thing, which is why it been hard for me to watch and support the NFL over the last 10 years or so. The Tua situation is heartbreaking and should not have happened. This play call, though, is literally the most blatent officiating blunder I've seen _ever._ Jarrett had to circle around the engaged lineman in order to get Brady, so his momentum is clearly carrying him in that direction. He did--literally--everything you're supposed to do, and he _still_ get flagged? Stop playing the game. If you are _that_ concerned about the safety of the quarterback on a waist tackle where the quarterback hit the ground "too fast" and didn't hit his head, stop playing the game. You might as well make it a weekly skills competition: no defenders, no contact, just run offensive plays against tacking dummies.
@5:38 "If he hits his head here and he's out and then there's no flag on that play we are killing the NFL"... is this guy serious? How many tackles/hits are there in a game that has a player hit his head? By this guy's logic any play where someone hits their head needs to be flagged because if any of those result in a concussion and there's no flag "we are killing the NFL".
Tom Brady has always been that guy to cry to the refs every play. He’s always had calls go his way. And for as long as he plays there will be more plays that will go his way. Sucks to see
@@jayb341 not really if he just pushes him down which he capable of Brady is 100kg Grady Jarrett is 140kg and the dude has more mass than him as soon he grabs him he gone feel it and hit the ground unless Brady was faster like lamar or Kyler Murray
Dan Orlovsky makes a point, if college football Can review this that and the third, why can’t the NFL do it… College Football is light years ahead of the NFL
I have lost all respect for anything Michael Irvin has to say anymore when it comes to the physicality and toughness it takes to play football. The problem with Tua was not that he was tackled, but how it was handled afterwards. I don't know how many times you have to hear that there is an inherent danger in playing football to actually believe what they are saying but come on man!! I'm not saying the Falcons win that game but that has to be one of the most pro Brady calls I have seen in my lifetime smh!!
If you don’t want anyone to get a concussion then dismantle the NFL. It’s a violent game and it always has been. If you want to change it to flag football, then go right ahead.
Bad call, but this where league is headed now. Despite what some say, Brady in Tampa is in the bottom half of qbs receiving roughing calls. With the concussion stuff it’s just gonna go down this route more.
i agree if u cant hit u grab the qb they no longer can throw away or to a receiver but now that still wont work all ur momentum to get to him will knock him down and u cant ease up a qb can run...very simple no head shots dnt lead with the helmet no knee shots and play if u choose that sport and position you are aware what comes with it...
If this didn't happen right after a BAD HOLDING CALL in 3rd down that gave them the first I wouldn't be as sus. I guess DBs can't touch WR inside 5 yards anymore either because of Tua?
Stephen A 1000% correct on this. It’s pathetic
On top of that, nfl is a hypocrite. Let’s throw a flag on somebody who is being tackled legally, but not on a QB who is sliding and gets hit when he’s on the ground
@James Stocks lmao get him out of here i was happy when be retired i knew sum was up when he came back the refs needed him more than his family
tom payed the refs off
@M M Vegas has a direct line to NYC on Sundays.
Extremely Rare SAS W
Apparently you can’t sack a QB anymore 🤷🏾♂️ 🤦🏾
If your name is Tom Brady.
maybe just Tom Brady
tom was kicking and screaming like a baby
Or josh Allen
Or any white qb the league wants to build up
Michael Irvin clearly got a call from Tom to defend him. Knowing the era he played in hearing him speak like that broke my heart
Same. Michael was making a terrible argument. You can't say, "If he hit his head...," because if that's the measuring stick for a legal tackle, then no tackle can be made in the NFL, because a player can hit their head in any tackle. Any time you go to the ground, you could possibly hit your head. It was just a ridiculous argument, and I am ashamed that he even bothered to try to make that argument.
It’s tv … somebody gotta try and play devils advocate…. If everybody says the same thing … you have no show … you have a choir
@@1chrismelody I get that, but I’m just saying I would’ve expected that argument from DO or Molly. But hey the game is the game..
Factsssssss!!!!
Literally it is enfuriating to listen to him defend him. ‘Tua di….’
TUA SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN PLAYED!!!!
If you cannot tackle someone like that make it across the board then. And in another 4 years, there will be no such thing as a legal tackle.
It literally states in the rule book that unnecessary or excessive force is a 15 yard penalty… which literally happens on every nfl play. I’m disgusted by the rigged league. I hate to take it there but there is no dodging it anymore. This is what the nfl has set themselves up to become. A rich racist billionaire boys club, that controls literally a day out of every week from us
If anything Brady should have be penalised for trying to kick Jarrett.
Twice at that bro and a ELBOW
you mean after he tried to tea bag him. haha he purposly stepped over top of him. i dont agree with the call at all. but if you step on top of me your getting my foot. period
Thank you
Well Josh Allen did the Same thing against the Baltimore Ravens Once he was Tackled he sat on the Ground and looked around for the Officials and threw his Hands up and the saw him thew the Flag ..
no call rigged game
Not only was this one of the worse roughing the passing calls this season, the last 10 years, maybe ever, but the refs explanation afterwards was embarrassing. To say that Grady Jarrett " unnecessarily " threw Tom Brady to the ground ( which is the definition of a tackle btw) is such a lame, pathetic cop-out for such a horrible call. The falcons got robbed and I'm not even a Atlanta fan 😒
*Bucs repeatedly made the same sack by whipping the QB to the ground and no flag was thrown*
At 11:23 of the 1st quarter, Bucs sack Falcon QB in the very same way and no flag is thrown.
And at 11:57 of the 3rd quarter, yet another identical sack is made by the Bucs with no flag.
In both cases, Buc defender whips Marcus Mariota to the ground.
At 4:10 of the 3rd quarter, A Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB and draws no penalty flag.
At 11:08 of the 4th quarter, a Buc whips Mariota to the ground and another then Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB. No penalty flag.
So as we see, the penalty flag on Grady Jarret was totally unjustified.
Brady should have got a call for trying to kick the dude
The play before was pass interference and it was not called. SImple make up call, but Brady haters going to hate. Hilarious.
@@phoqyu4721 what about that ghost holding on the previous 3rd down, was the made up for?
@@phoqyu4721 I don’t support “make up calls” of any kind. And the only thing worse than Brady is his fans, just like LeBron. Corny soy boys.
the way jarrett tackled him, he actually broke Brady's fall. even if you have never played football, you can see that this is one of the gentler ways you can tackle someone.
No doubt about it
The Falcons realistically been playing good football and if y’all watching them you’ll understand . The he momentum was all on our side we could’ve won that game
Our only problem is not scoring fast enough in the first half of games
I love how everyone is hyperfocusing on that bad call and pretending like it was not a MAKE UP CALL for literally the play before it where there was CLEAR and OBVIOUS pass interference on Scotty Miller.... LOL
@@phoqyu4721 he turned he head around which of u know the correct rule and played corner you would understand he would’ve been penalized if he didn’t do that head turn around.
They're last year's Lions. They have been competitive in every single game. The problem is they wait too long to get going. Can't fall behind double digits every week and expect to always come back.
this is also despite mariota barely throwing the ball and the gigantic salary cap issue they have. the coaching has been phenomenal
Lol Lamar took an identical hit last night and was swung to ground, but because he's not brady and a running qb it's all good, no penalty.
As a ravens fan i literally can’t recall Lamar getting a roughing the passer
I don't think he often does. It's more a brady rule lol.
Exactly the tackle on Lamar was clearly a roughing penalty
I guess if it's a penalty on brady it should be on Lamar as well, but I don't think either play was bad personally. It's football, supposed to be rough.
not identical, Lamar got smoked, he hit the ground pretty hard but thankfully it was just his body.
dude... if even Steven of all people says "I'm ashamed of brady, too" we've truly stepped into a new dimension
Brady demonstrated horrible sportsmanship on top of whining to the refs for a flag. He just lost my respect.
Brady is like Lebron crying for fouls
Initially, I was clapping because I thought the flag was on Tom Brady for kicking Grady Jarrett. Craziest call I can remember seeing.
So sad
They didn’t want Brady and the Bucs to drop to 2-3 on the season especially at home 😂
Exactly
Rigged
Right! Now they first in their division right now.
Agreed
what about the bad call in Baltimore last week?
Been saying this for years, every team should be allowed to challenge at least 1 flag per game
Like Dan said that should be reviewable like targeting calls in college because that was just unacceptable
Michael Irvin gotta be on that sauce again
😆😆😆
Yeah ESPN has a no drug testing policy
Facts lol
Nah, he drew the short straw. They ALWAYS have 1 person disagree just to keep the shows interesting.
he is brady best friend 🤣😂
this is supposed to be the NFL. my god. the softest call I have ever seen in my life.
*Bucs repeatedly made the same sack by whipping the QB to the ground and no flag was thrown*
At 11:23 of the 1st quarter, Bucs sack Falcon QB in the very same way and no flag is thrown.
And at 11:57 of the 3rd quarter, yet another identical sack is made by the Bucs with no flag.
In both cases, Buc defender whips Marcus Mariota to the ground.
At 4:10 of the 3rd quarter, A Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB and draws no penalty flag.
At 11:08 of the 4th quarter, a Buc whips Mariota to the ground and another then Buc lands on Mariota with his weight on the QB. No penalty flag.
So as we see, the penalty flag on Grady Jarret was totally unjustified.
It was a make up call from the play before where pass interference should have been called on the pass to Scotty Miller.... I mean i know everyone has the memory of goldfish nowadays but come on it is literally the play before. Yeah sure the roughing the passer was a bad call but make up calls are a real thing, and it was better for the Falcons then if they had actually called PI.... So suck it up 28-3
It's because he drove him to the ground too hard and Brady could have hit his head like Tuas. I think some of Clay Matthews calls were worse.
If it was a make up call due to a failed PI call, then that's just bad officiating.
@@phoqyu4721 This is the most braindead reasoning I have ever heard.
This wasn’t even the only bad call 3 plays earlier the Falcons stopped Brady on 3rd down and the refs called holding on Terell and he didn’t even touch Evans!!! Evans flopped and drew the call then the Falcons stop them again and this BS roughing call!!! So the refs definitely helped and wanted Bucs to win because they don’t want the Falcons to win because they aren’t a major market!!!!!!!
ATL is a much larger market than Tampa Bay.
Atlanta is a huge market. One of the biggest in the country. Much bigger than Tampa.
That is really dumb. Atlanta is the 7th largest market. Tampa is like 15th.
i noticed that too but this game was rigged again by the refs. i swear they want it to be where we never beat tom brady once
Are you completely ignoring the DPI that the refs didn’t call the play earlier that would have iced the game for the bucs? This was a makeup call.
The falcons wouldn’t have won anyways. The bucs demolished them. Almost 2x the yards and they were up by multiple scores the entire game. Bucs won that game easily.
For a man who used to play in the NFL Michael Irving is an absolute disgrace!
Irving back to playing with his nose 😂 I like how Brady is still playing this late in life, but if that’s a legit call they need to just give Brady 2 flags and tell defenses you can’t hit him on remove his flags
They've been protecting Tom Brady like that for 20 years, let's not act like this is new.
The goat the NFL poster child he white they like that ain't no black men is the time Brady treatment
He is one of the chin chin $$ machines of this league dude!. The NLF just keeping save their assets.
@@moalston4203 🤡
Him and Rodgers
I agree. Every new rule to protect the quarterback comes from hits on Tom Brady. What ever happened to the Tuck Rule
The NFL can't have Tom being 2-3.
Sad but true
The Brady - Belechec era was all set up by the NFL anyhow, fixed.
One of the best takes by Stephen A.
Facts. I was actually nodding my head instead of shaking it.
SAS has a ton of great takes but this one might be his best ever.
I love Michael Irvin but oh my God he just in raged me this man said that was a Violent swing The whole world is soft as pudding.
As soon as Irvin said what he said... Me: 🤦🤦🤦
@@shioriryukaze Michael irvin don got soft from all that soft he been sniffing
Irvin loves Tom Brady. He should do a show with Skip Bayless and they can both gargle Tom's nuts.
Steven A.Smith is Speaking Facts
I'm so glad you guys are discussing this, cause I'm literally sick of this crybaby, getting all these ridiculous calls, let the teams play a fair game! Brady kicks him, and of course hardly nobody says anything about that, horrible call!😡😠
Is anyone going to talk about Brady attempting to kick a lineman twice in that game
Look at the scheduling for the Bucs, and their "tough" out of division games being at home. the NFL is doing everything they can to help Brady get a SB win on the way out. Its a great story line
Yeah for sure and it's helping Brady have a "live long enough to see yourself become the villain" arc as the truth becomes more and more obvious
Never seen so much butthurt losers and crying from Brady haters. Same old same old 😂😂😂.
Brady to the refs, "Please protect me so I don't have to go home to HER!"
schedules are made years in advance btw
@@herdior8915 Wrong. Home and Away are not set until the scheduling in the offseason.
Betting is the reason games are staged sometimes smh that was the worst call ever!
i guess i lot of people bet the bucs victory and the ref couldn let falcon win anyway
Dan’s face at 3:39 😂
I spilled by beer lol
I love Stephen A stare from 4:02 to 4:16. Reminds me of Khabane.
Lmao!! Tom Brady got 3 rules changed in his favor and now everybody gonna act like this ain’t been happening for 20 season with Brady. 🤣🤣
Name the rules I’ll wait
@@JC-db7so Hmmmm!! Not hitting QBs below the Knee, Not being allowed to put your body weight on QB during a sack and When the QB is holding the ball to pass it forward any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass even if the player loses the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward to his body it’s not a fumble. I’ll let you guess the names Mr. Smarta**. 🤣🤣
He is no GOAT
@@louishicks9542 I ain’t gonna say all that but he #2 after LT in my opinion
Refs been helping Brady since the Tuck rule game.
At some point, it's just a work hazard. You can't prevent 100% of concussions in a violent sport. Flinging a player to the ground is just something that can happen in the course of the game. What happened to Tua was unfortunate, but it's a risk you take playing the sport. The only question I have surrounding the Tua incident is should he have been out there in the 1st place given the hit he took in the previous game.
Thank you. They're playing a contact sport. Someone is going to get hurt. It's the cost of playing a physical sport. Instead of enforcing stricter protocols, they chose to make the game softer. Ridiculous. This is going to get unwatchable here if they keep this 💩 up.
@James Stocks Umm no. Millennials just care about players leaving comfortably passed 50. Look up how Frank Wycheck is doing. It’s really sad. Attributing that call to millennials is ridiculous. That was clearly an overreaction to Tua which makes no sense. Ppl weren’t complaining about the hit on Tua, we were complaining about putting him back in the game when he clearly showed signs of a concussion. These are two separate issues the are being conflated when they shouldn’t be. The only reason that was called was bc it was Tom Brady. Lamar had the same thing happen to him and there was no call. It’s to the point where roughing the passer needs to be reviewable by replay or you’re going to have to make it a penalty when QB’s are wrapped up and refuse to go down trying to save the play.
@@alcoballic9593 I’m a millennial and I want my dads football back. If it means Brady dies, he dies. Jack Tatum killed a man in a game (go Raiders) and I want more of that. The entire sport will be better. Instead we’ve taken a liberal approach: let’s ruin everything for the few outliers.
Of course typical ESPN trying to frame it, “threw Tom Brady down” should say “tackled Tom Brady”
Irvin makes zero point ref said tua incident had nothing to do with his call.
Camera man couldn’t get enough of Stephen A from 3:47 til 4:17 😂
Bro started looking like he smoked too much weeeeeeeeduh
It was the crew from get on up
in the live show they were probably showing the play in question. ESPN doesn’t air clips from the games on their youtube channel
I’m saying 😂😂😂😂
That was an awkward 30 seconds
I'm glad this is going viral.
3:38 FINALLY Dan looks how we all look hearing him talk about how amazing some QBs are. 😂
100% agree with Dan on going back and reviewing those calls.
When Brady’s playin & the referee is Jerome Boger, always expect some bulljive during the game.
Is this you Shannon? lol
rigged
Yo his wife was head of security at my hs when I went. She was principal recently but she had bread bread. Maybe he paying the man lmfaooooo
Boger's crew is with that bulljive regardless of which game it works. That's just what he and his people do.
Irvin, love yah, but people did not kill the guy who sacked Tua over that concussion. You're claiming the player and maybe the NFL would get killed over not throwing a flag - the NFL wasn't killed over Tua's concussion play NOT being a flag. The NFL got killed by media and fans alike, because the kind of concusion he got typically occurs when you get hit in the head while already having a concussion. They weren't killing them over that play, that play lead people to kill the NFL over the week prior, when the MEDICAL TEAM from both the Dolphins and the NFL's independent doctors both clear Tua to not only get ack on the field last week, but to not even consider a concussion after the game and allow tua to play on short rest without going through the protocol.
the NFL was not killed over the hit and no flag. They were killed over Tua being cleared to play in the first place.
Ain't nobody killing the NFL over how defenders are tackling QB's, and all the rule changes the NFL made to protect QB's was never about how the media and fans reacted. A lot of fans actually disliked the rule changes because it makes it so hard for defenders to actually sack a QB.
It was a fault in the medical side that pissed people off. Not the hit, sack, and no flag. Nobody was actually mad about the lack of a flag. You have to be able tackle the QB, or what are we doing?
My thing is if Irvin is talking about ruthless contact, two things 1. They sign up for this type of contact in middle school football. Literally hitting each other so don’t act as if this is all new to the sport. 2. We have to define reckless contact that involves endangerment to the player cause then otherwise everyone is right and their version of rough contact gets called (which btw has already been defined for us in the way that they can’t target headshots, or any wrestling-esk moves that will cause severe injury) Dude he could’ve tripped Tom Brady and Brady walks out with an ankle injury you can’t just not touch them cause injuries are a concern, you play with that risk. Done
Micheal Irvin trippin
He started back using that booger sugar 🐽
The way Stephen stares at the camera at 4:01 🤣
stephan A did make a great point when he said why is brady looking at the ref. and he did.brady was mad because he got sacked and gets angry at the defender. i really cannot stand that little whiny girl. that was the worst call ive ever seen!
Stephen A finally got a great take !!!
As a falcon fan, I’m not surprised. NFL be treating us like we’re the old Raiders.
I wouldn't go that far. The refs screwed LV last night to set Mahomes (NFL's new QB Diva) up for Kelce 4th touchdown. Such BS.
@@brucej.willson4764 They also screwed KC with a LAUGHABLE roughing call on Chris Jones.
@@xaviervega468 Yes we know. Everyone has been talking about that. Not many talking about the field goal.
Ppl forget what Eli manning did. Literally won the SB cuz the refs weren't over babying. Tom has gotten game winning calls his whole career. We all know Tom wudnt be TB w/o the "tuck rule". His legacy literally began with a blown call. He was the ultimate feel good story that year. NFL wasn't gonna let him lose that game.
how does he get the blame for the tuck rule when it was literally a rule
@@yolofeather he fumbled.
One of the best takes from SAS ever! The ending had me rolling 🤣🤣
That’s a terrible suggestion to stop the play when the qb gets grabbed. Guys like Lamar, kyler, josh Allen, etc. won’t be able to extend plays like they are known for doing
He was being sarcastic dude
That analysis was spot on
In other news the Eagles are championship caliber and on their way to another Super Bowl oh yes!! I wish all of youse guys good health and prosperity. Greetings from lovely and fabulous NJ. - Gary.
Not happening
Thanks Gary da 🐌
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See you next week Gary. Tissues are cheaper at dollar tree.
Couldn't agree more, Stephen A. Said it perfectly.
They been doing this for years
This call is on the level of the Chicago call for taunting last year bad.... It makes you wonder if that's the reason why a lot of these defenses are playing loose this year? If they're afraid that anything that they do may be called for penalty?
Ill say so we use to see a lot of harder hits 2-3 years ago
ATL was gonna mess up that ref's parlay, so he did something about it
Couldn't have said it any better than Stephen did.
So basically because it was Tom Brady we need to protect him, but when it was Tua......ehhh. 🤷🏾 Got it. 😂🤣
It really was just an unexpected accident with tua his size and weight affected his outcome same as Brady but this was the cleanest way that I’ve seen to sack a qb and they still threw a flag … falcons got cheated out of a well deserved chance to win the game
Tua never fully recovered from his previous concussion Brady didn’t walk in the game with a concussion so regardless of how it looked he wouldn’t have been out like Tua
Big fan of Brady but my man is protected like a 🤴 since 2 decades
Cheers from San Diego California
Michael you are straight tripping 😂
The look on Smith’s face 😂😂😂😂😂
Michael Irvin always makes the conversations more entertaining 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably gave the ref a "what am I paying you for" look. 🙄
Absolutely STEPHEN A SMITH IS 1000 percent on this , this was absolutely not ROUGHING THE PASSER AT ALL
Look at the roughing the passer call in the Browns game with Jacoby Brissett 😆 hilarious
Michael sound so soft for someone from that era
If a defender is not allowed to "fall on" the QB without drawing a penalty, it stands to reason that the defender must grab the QB by the torso and "apply torque" to ensure the QB lands on top of self (the defensive player). I call it the "alligator roll". And, with it, of course the QB's body, and head, are going to get whipped around. There is no alternative.
Nah they was outta pocket call the falcons got robbed 😂😂😂
Brady’s been getting calls like that his entire career. I’m not surprised.
just put flags on the quarterback to grab. and then give the quarterback time to recover from that. this was a sad call for a sad goat
Still too dangerous bro what happens if they bump into the qb? It’s a 15 yard penalty NOW if your hand touches the qbs helmet. Honestly you should feel ashamed that you even thought flag football would be safe for a football player.
I think it would just be safer just to not rush the qb. I think it’s safer if the defense would not be allowed inside the tackle box like they do intentional grounding. Just to make the game ‘mOrE sAfE’. 👍🏼
What’s sad is how much of a crybaby you sound like
Steeler fan for over 50 years, so I have no dog in this hunt. I watched the play from multiple sources and came two conclusions: Make Tom Brady play in a dress once and for all, so calls like this make sense AND the NFL may have a Donaghy situation. CTE is a serious thing, which is why it been hard for me to watch and support the NFL over the last 10 years or so. The Tua situation is heartbreaking and should not have happened. This play call, though, is literally the most blatent officiating blunder I've seen _ever._ Jarrett had to circle around the engaged lineman in order to get Brady, so his momentum is clearly carrying him in that direction. He did--literally--everything you're supposed to do, and he _still_ get flagged? Stop playing the game. If you are _that_ concerned about the safety of the quarterback on a waist tackle where the quarterback hit the ground "too fast" and didn't hit his head, stop playing the game. You might as well make it a weekly skills competition: no defenders, no contact, just run offensive plays against tacking dummies.
This what makes me question calling him the goat when he gets help like this… it’s not the first time
I dont always agree with Stephen A but as a Falcons Fan this is ridiculous We can't even play to Win
Every defense player should be coming for Brady’s head
This call was egregious, outlandish, scadalish, outrageous & diabolical!
Yeah that was a really awful, game outcome altering call
That was insane
So was the pass interference that wasn't called just the play before.
He's right, if a defender is going to get kicked out you might as well just take the QB out of the game and hit him as hard as you can from now on.
Brady kicked his legs at Grady Jarrett once on the ground as well, No Flag
@5:38 "If he hits his head here and he's out and then there's no flag on that play we are killing the NFL"... is this guy serious? How many tackles/hits are there in a game that has a player hit his head? By this guy's logic any play where someone hits their head needs to be flagged because if any of those result in a concussion and there's no flag "we are killing the NFL".
Michale Irvin is insane.
Stephen snapped on this one
Michael Irvin is a sell out! Wow no shame or pride! I’m embarrassed for him🤣🤣
A buddy of mine at work is a Falcons' fan....and I think I'm more upset by the call than he is.
Tom Brady has always been that guy to cry to the refs every play. He’s always had calls go his way. And for as long as he plays there will be more plays that will go his way. Sucks to see
Not a fan of Stephen A, but he is 100% right on everything he said!
Tom always... ALWAYS... cries for the call. And usually gets it.
It’s not all defenses, it depends on who the team is and who the quarterback is! You know this Stephen A quit biting your tongue
What is Michael Irvin talking about? “Violent Swing” 😂
😂he just be talking
Grady Jarrett is a giant dude with superior strength. Of course it’s gong to look somewhat violent. Sacking a QB requires a bit of violence
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@@jayb341 not really if he just pushes him down which he capable of Brady is 100kg Grady Jarrett is 140kg and the dude has more mass than him as soon he grabs him he gone feel it and hit the ground unless Brady was faster like lamar or Kyler Murray
@@jayb341 he can control his strength a bit but if start running h full speed than good luck
I agree with Stephen A Smith 100%.
That Ref Rigged the game, plain and simple.
Dan Orlovsky makes a point, if college football Can review this that and the third, why can’t the NFL do it…
College Football is light years ahead of the NFL
Brady even kicked at or kicked Grady on two separate occasions.
I totally agree with SAS!
Qb should just wear flags and play flag fball with them.
I have lost all respect for anything Michael Irvin has to say anymore when it comes to the physicality and toughness it takes to play football. The problem with Tua was not that he was tackled, but how it was handled afterwards. I don't know how many times you have to hear that there is an inherent danger in playing football to actually believe what they are saying but come on man!! I'm not saying the Falcons win that game but that has to be one of the most pro Brady calls I have seen in my lifetime smh!!
Michael Irvin should be ashamed of himself making that comment 😐
He’s speaking like a true powder head 💊
Tuck Rule all over again!
If you don’t want anyone to get a concussion then dismantle the NFL. It’s a violent game and it always has been. If you want to change it to flag football, then go right ahead.
Brady losing to the falcons would’ve fucked up the final season storyline
Hey Michael, you got something right there! Almost, right there! You got it….
"We all know Tom Brady will do anything to win, but I can't believe he did that." LMAO
kicking and screaming tom
What exactly did he do
@@jet1149 tried to kick the man that sacked him and cried to the ref for a flag for no reason. Tom is a whimp.
A tip on life .. Only speak for yourself - when you say "WE" as in plural it makes you look weak .. Might help you some day in life
Travis kelse got power bombed a few weeks ago and no flag so don’t talk about poor Tom Brady getting roughed up a little bit.
Bad call, but this where league is headed now. Despite what some say, Brady in Tampa is in the bottom half of qbs receiving roughing calls. With the concussion stuff it’s just gonna go down this route more.
But it was a text book tackle
i agree if u cant hit u grab the qb they no longer can throw away or to a receiver but now that still wont work all ur momentum to get to him will knock him down and u cant ease up a qb can run...very simple no head shots dnt lead with the helmet no knee shots and play if u choose that sport and position you are aware what comes with it...
If this didn't happen right after a BAD HOLDING CALL in 3rd down that gave them the first I wouldn't be as sus. I guess DBs can't touch WR inside 5 yards anymore either because of Tua?
Absolutely! Spot on!