Get the most out of your Atari VCS (RAM, SSD, and OS Installation)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +13

    Thanks so much for watching! Links to the hardware I used are in the description. I'm still researching more VCS videos - what would you like to see? Let me know! Don't forget to like and subscribe!

    • @jbjb8776
      @jbjb8776 3 года назад

      Potential blockchain integration

    • @linuxlover_8436
      @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад

      linux distros can be tricky depending on hardware. I have relatively good knowledge of wine, vulkan and various graphics ppa's but sometimes all one's linux knowledge does not matter. Even proton itself can be finicky if running steam in linux. I can get a steam game to run once, but then inexplicably, it may never run again. Updating to latest kernels even doesn't help sometimes. I tried Ubuntu 20.04, and Pop OS b/c they've been touted by many as good for gaming, yet get the same outcome pretty much. I am a linux fan but Steam gaming on linux can be quite frustrating and mind-boggling at times. Lately, I mostly dual-boot into Windows when I want to use Steam due to the inconsistency. Lutris as well has yielded me similar disappointing outcomes. Besides Steam, most other gaming via linux (ie. emulators) actually seem more stable than windows versions. Also, don't feel bad about the Genesis classics on steam not working properly...many users including myself have e-mailed Sega about problems w/it and they never patched or updated and stopped responding to me after a followup email I sent them. Full screen mode in particular shows up black for many users including myself & I tried via AMD and Nvidia gpu's across a variety of distros so I think it's safe to say the Linux version is broken whereas the windows version is fine.

    • @ZaberfangX
      @ZaberfangX 3 года назад

      n/m I watch more of the video you know about it:)

    • @aswillis4797
      @aswillis4797 3 года назад +1

      I would LOVE to see gaming on it. Like full gaming, playing light games then very graphics enduring games, maybe even cyberpunk 2077 on this upgraded Atari VCS. You have got me back into Atari, so thanks, bro. Think about it

    • @linuxlover_8436
      @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад

      @@aswillis4797 Kevin Kenson did a video on it but he had not upgraded the ram. It was not pleasant playing cyberpunk at default according to him. I think it may end up being playable after a ram upgrade (and maybe optimizations for pc from cd projekt red). I haven't found any vids where anyone tried running it w/32 GB as yet.

  • @omnistan7642
    @omnistan7642 3 года назад +13

    I do not know who this man is; but he should be appointed (and paid plentifully) to create every tutorial known to mankind.

  • @beedwarf
    @beedwarf 3 года назад +5

    Just love the design of the Atari VCS. We've come full circle, Atari fans! :)

  • @BaerBradfordBaerwb
    @BaerBradfordBaerwb 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks so much for your help, particularly about the back panel and advising to temporarily disconnect the wifi.

  • @bdonham
    @bdonham 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the Video,, I just need to wait for the M.2 mounting kit and then I will be ready to try this once I get my courage up...

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      It's not as hard as it looks. Just got to take your time.

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect 3 года назад +2

    Good stuff to geek out over. Glad you got this console to show is this as it's quite the investment.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      Yeah. It's been pretty fun seeing what this can do

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 3 года назад +4

    My 12 year old daughter and I performed this upgrade, (but also replaced the thermal paste, upped the TDP, and increased the RAM speed). We had already installed the SSD and sealed up the system when we realized that Windows couldn't be installed normally. Rather than ripping the thing open again, we just installed Windows to a different SSD on a separate computer and then used Macrium Reflect 7 Free to clone the disk to the internal M.2. If you go this route, remember to skip entering your product key when installing on the other machine. You don't want that hardware associated with the product key you acquired for the Atari. When the OS is on the Atari, you can enter the product key and complete activation.

  • @20windfisch11
    @20windfisch11 3 года назад +6

    They should just pre-install Retroarch with all cores that run well on the system and integrate it into the menu. I’d use the VCS as a multi-system retro console in a nice case with matching joystick.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      I wonder what kind of licensing they can get from that. Or at least court them to sell on the store at launch.

    • @20windfisch11
      @20windfisch11 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo If they need to subsidise the console with the games, they calculated wrong. For me, the Atari VCS has always been a beefy retro (emulation) console and not a competitor to the PlayStation or XBox. I only consider the store and the more modern games as a bonus. Plus, if you add an OS that boots into Retroarch via the PC mode, you basically get the same effect, but it looks and feels more like an afterthought.
      However, if they enable directly booting into PC mode in a later update, I'd also accept that.
      I know you can have this with a Raspberry Pi with a nice case too, but the VCS would appeal to many people as a ready-to-run alternative.

    • @scoteeboy
      @scoteeboy 3 года назад

      I agree. I am a bit of a nostalgia person and the VCS would make the perfect retro emulation system.

  • @huh6449
    @huh6449 3 года назад +2

    “They have made ram dummy proof” this made my day

  • @KamenRider1985
    @KamenRider1985 3 года назад +3

    With all that Ram would love to see a test run with more games. See if Doom Eternal can run. Gears 5 or something

  • @NegerDunk1
    @NegerDunk1 3 года назад

    Nice, i love my Atari VCS. after i have seen this video i am thinking of upgrading the RAM and the SSD on my Atari. But i would also se a video from you playing now after you have upgraded your Atari. :)

  • @mrttype
    @mrttype 2 года назад +1

    Awesome Vid. Very useful. Agree with positive feedback comments below like Omni Stan. So appreciate encountered problems being highlighted. The whole internet(yes, all of it) could definitely use more people saying what not to do/what doesn't work/what others say works but doesn't. And!, whilst I'm here, no-one ever again saying Google is your friend, because it ain't.

  • @Tigermoto
    @Tigermoto 3 года назад +1

    It's like watching LGR's brother.
    Can't see how this would be construed as an insult... But instead it's a pretty good reason for me to subscribe

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      Haha thanks. I met him in person and he's pretty tall.

  • @IOwnMyWiiULEGIT
    @IOwnMyWiiULEGIT 8 месяцев назад

    Good coverage, thanks for the info!

  • @PKInTheUniverse
    @PKInTheUniverse 2 года назад

    Yeah this is definitely beyond my skills set, but it’s pretty awesome it can be done .

  • @Timmymantwo
    @Timmymantwo 3 года назад

    I'd love to see you overclocking the Atari VCS

  • @kimberlycarter369
    @kimberlycarter369 3 года назад +2

    OYG! No access door to install the ram and ssd? WTF!?

  • @derekdash2179
    @derekdash2179 3 года назад

    Hopefully I can use this when I get around to installing a SSD in my new Atari.

  • @dansiltala283
    @dansiltala283 3 года назад

    For taking of the front and back plates i just used one of those Orange Lego brick separators

  • @misterwin2393
    @misterwin2393 3 года назад +1

    This video was great, it didn't feel long and answered most of my questions about upgrading the VCS... although I still want to know if the Ryzen 5 3200G would work in there! Guess I'll just have to buy one and find out...
    What I would like to know is, how do some modern AAA titles work on the console(yes, it's a console, if only by form factor! Don't blame me, blame whoever decided a tower was the best shape for a computer) once it's fully upgraded? Specifically I was wondering about Call of Duty Warzone, iRacing, SFV, Cyberpunk and Grand Theft Auto 5, but Shadow of the Tomb Raider seems to be a pretty mean benchmark and everybody loves it when you run Contra!

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      well I can tell you right away that you can't put any other chip in here. The Ryzen 1606g is a system on a chip so you're stuck with what you get. Perhaps down the line you can swap out the board for something else but it would truly be a passion project at that point to get everything to fit.
      Once I get Windows on an SSD, I'll see about testing out that games.

    • @misterwin2393
      @misterwin2393 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo Ah well, you can't have it all. I'll be waiting for that test video!

    • @linuxlover_8436
      @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад

      @@misterwin2393 eta prime did a video mentioning some of your games but he didn't max the Ram, just added an m.2 ssd. he got most to work ok at 720p..check out his vid if haven't yet. another guy (forget his name) ran cyberpunk but wasn't pleasant (like 12-15fps i think) but he didn't max the ram so don't know if any hope w/that game..if u have a more powerful pc, u should be able to stream a game to the vcs in windows or linux pc mode so there's that as an option it appears

    • @PatrickThomasBrady
      @PatrickThomasBrady 3 года назад

      @@linuxlover_8436 I think your talking about Kevin Kenson, he tried running cyberpunk

    • @linuxlover_8436
      @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад

      @@PatrickThomasBrady that's him. thanks

  • @docrobotnik247
    @docrobotnik247 3 года назад

    Stadia and GFN coming soon, and the best gaming forks of Linux are any that runs proton/wine without needing to install everything, but best dual boot windows for games for compatibility

  • @Amelie-g3m
    @Amelie-g3m 3 года назад +1

    I have seen that Atari is now also active in other areas. Has anyone ever read or found out anything about it?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      I did a video looking into their NFT usage. But other than that I haven't been following too closely

  • @livinginsql6918
    @livinginsql6918 3 года назад +2

    How did you find the correct speed for the RAM? I'm afraid of buying a 3000 mhz pair

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +2

      I bought it based off of the discord recommendations. The speed currently is at 2400 regardless of what you buy though and currently the BIOS are locked so there's no way to overclock/change that.

  • @cressothegrey4354
    @cressothegrey4354 3 года назад +1

    There's a pretty good Linux distro for gaming called Drauger OS

  • @linuxlover_8436
    @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад +1

    if i get one, i'd probably get the 4 GB only to upgrade to 32GB immediately. They should just offer a version w/32GB from the get go even though it might not matter for most games. it might be cheaper if they offered that as an option as long as they'd be able to get a lower rate for ram than what a user might pay if upgrading themself. Also, if the unit is successful, atari should revamp the internals to at least be easier to add ram and ssd or offer add'l ram if the vcs is direct ordered...some users are not that savy and may not feel like opening the unit out of fear even if it's not that difficult. reminds me too much of opening a legacy laptop which can be a headache at times.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +2

      Yeah. That's why I maxed out the ram even if it is a bit overkill at the moment.
      And yeah, it would be a good idea to upgrade options factory direct

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the video. I will say that 32 gigs is and will always be overkill for this system. There's just no way that you're going to be running any programs on a system like this that would ever require that much memory. 16 gigs is more than enough.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      You're probably right - I took one for the team - even at 8gigs seems to run everything that you could possibly want smoothly.

    • @DoRC
      @DoRC 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo Yes 8 gigs is probably plenty sufficient. 16 will definitely future proof things though.

  • @shapez73
    @shapez73 2 года назад

    I'm curious about running a flight simulator on here. Like Microsoft Flight Sim 2020. Seems like it's the deal breaker for me if I can't..

  • @izdr_baconzi3894
    @izdr_baconzi3894 3 года назад +2

    Question, does this have a max storage capacity or nah?

  • @namillerable
    @namillerable 3 года назад +1

    Not being able to use GamerOS is a deal breaker for me. Hopefully someone smarter than me figures out a relatively easy way to do it. If I could install that I'd buy one of these.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      Someone did find the password to the bios so it's possible to put it on the VCS now.

    • @namillerable
      @namillerable 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo that's really cool! I'm definitely going to be considering one of these in that case.

  • @DavpaCoX
    @DavpaCoX 3 года назад +2

    I really am itching to install GamerOS when the VCS is freed up from Secure Boot

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      yeah - it's a shame that it's locked currently. I think because in order to get devs on board they have to have some blocks in place to reassure them.

    • @Josh-ce9sv
      @Josh-ce9sv 3 года назад +1

      @@SuperNicktendo Also helps avoid B.S. warranty claims... it's a fine balance between OPEN SYSTEM and self responsibility. ;)

    • @linuxlover_8436
      @linuxlover_8436 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo i think u and Josh are right about this

    • @PatrickThomasBrady
      @PatrickThomasBrady 3 года назад

      It’s only a matter of time until this is cracked and you can install what you want on it

  • @PaulXMann
    @PaulXMann 3 года назад

    Ugh... do NOT use anything to pry off the front panel! You'll scratch the damn thing, and it pops off by itself if you take the back panel first, then the underside (with the screws). Second, do NOT open the top panel the full 180-degrees! Put a box or something behind the lid, so it sits at a 90-degree angle, instead (and then you can easily remove the WiFi car instead of having those antennas pulled). Lastly, do NOT use a tool on those ribbon cable releases--just use your fingers (once the heat shield is removed). Leave the plastic "spudger" at home!

  • @PG-gs5vb
    @PG-gs5vb 2 года назад

    Perhaps I missed it, but did you mention that the SSD has to be a SATA M.2, not NVME?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  2 года назад

      Yeah it has to be m.2. I have a link to the one I used in the description

  • @shawn6306
    @shawn6306 3 года назад +2

    when i do get my atari vcs i would not mess with it buy trying to put new ram, ssd and os because i still would not know what i'm doing and i also don't mind the 8gb at all to be honest that's just me i would just leave it alone because upgrading things just never ever matter to me at all i just embrace it for what it is i'm ok with 8gb but i know this video is for most people that do want to upgrade there atari vcs with new ram, ssd and os which is fine i just want it to share that i just don't see myself upgrade the atari vcs when i get my vcs in spring since i'm a retailer.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      I think you can get away with that for sure - putting a flash drive and calling it a day is just fine without taking it apart.

    • @shawn6306
      @shawn6306 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo thanks for the advice yes i know that i can used a drive for the atari vcs but i forgot what it was called until you mentioned it to me thanks for reminding me that it's called a flash drive this really help ok i hope you have a good day i will talk to you next time take care buddy.

    • @Josh-ce9sv
      @Josh-ce9sv 3 года назад +2

      Shawndell- I don't know where you live, but I love your peaceful and open mind approach. If you are close to me- I will not only come to you and install more RAM & SSD for you- but I will pay for them as well. :)

    • @shawn6306
      @shawn6306 3 года назад

      @@Josh-ce9sv aww thank you for me i really appreciate it you are so sweet i also don't know if i live close to you or if i don't live right next to you and i don't know where you live either either josh that i think that's very nice of you that you will pay for install ram & and ssd for me. :)

    • @Josh-ce9sv
      @Josh-ce9sv 3 года назад +1

      @@shawn6306 NJ. You follow me on Twitter.

  • @DustyOrchid057
    @DustyOrchid057 Год назад

    Weird my atari vcs had a m.2 mounting screw.
    PS I want to install HoloISO on my Atari

  • @chslaw
    @chslaw 3 года назад

    I cannot get the VCS to boot automatically to the internal SSD. Any suggestions? I access boot manager set to to book from the SSD, but it seems to reset every time I power down.
    Also, do you know if there is a way to partition the SSD to allows the native OS to use a portion of the SSD for storage without formatting the entire SSD?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      You should be able to split the SSD so you can use it in tandem with Atari OS and Windows. I think it would have to be an unformatted partition first so you would install windows on half and then let Atari partition the other one. I'm not 100% sure on that.
      As far as boot order, I believe you need to unlock the bios and force it to choose the SSD but I know some people just erase Atari OS which kind of defeats the purpose of the machine.

    • @chslaw
      @chslaw 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo I gave up trying to figure it out for now. The Atari website says the boot order is (1) USB drive; (2) internal SSD; and (3) Atari OS. I'm fed up trying to figure it out. I was booting the VCS to Windows from a flash drive installation. I never figured out how to get the SSD partitioned to have additional storage for the Atari OS on the SSD.
      So the SSD is fully for Windows and I have a 128 GB formatted for the the Atari. While I am sacrificing a USB slot, I'm okay with the that and can always remove it.
      Thank you for the videos and your input.

  • @badvoiceallnoise
    @badvoiceallnoise 3 года назад

    It has thermal pad on cpu/gpu chip. Why you dont replace it ?

  • @thatonebeaver
    @thatonebeaver 3 года назад

    Question. Can I just get the Windows 10 Home USB from best buy and boot it up on the Atari out of the box that way? Thanks.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      Installing Windows 10 on the VCS doesn't work the same way that you would normally do it on a PC. It'll get to the point where it needs to restart then fail. Atari suggests making a bootable USB via Win2USB - I don't know if the one you buy from Best Buy will work, but if it does, it will only run off that USB and you'll be stuck with the space that's left (if any)

  • @smillstill
    @smillstill Год назад

    Will the Crucial RAM 16GB or 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL22 (or 2933MHz or 2666MHz) unit work? I have heard without the BIOS password you cannot increase the RAM speed above the native 2400MHz, so may be stuck with Crucial RAM 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 MHz CL17

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  Год назад

      Yeah the ram caps out at that speed and even then the APU doesn't take advantage of the extra ram so anything over 16 is wasted. Not to mention the thermals might be an issue as well if you manage to unlock the speed. If I could do it over again, I wouldn't spend that much money on the ram.

  • @jokerace8227
    @jokerace8227 3 года назад

    How about Scorched Earth? Is that one in there?
    🐸

  • @Nordlicht05
    @Nordlicht05 3 года назад +1

    Everytime I want to change something in Linux it means Google Google and than code over code. On good days the code did nothing after half an our trying :-)

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      Yeah. After experience with Ubuntu for a couple weeks, I realized how much I need to do to do basic stuff.

  • @chslaw
    @chslaw 3 года назад

    So I got my memory and SSD upgrade and thank you for this video. I have Windows running a flash drive. Any suggestions on how I get it to recognize the SSD?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      You would need to get an ssd enclosure that would make the drive into a USB flash drive that you can install windows on to using win2usb. When it's finished, then you can put the SSD into the vcs and complete the installation on the VCS.

    • @chslaw
      @chslaw 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo I appreciate you taking the time to reply. So am I complete moron that needs to start over? You see, I installed the memory upgrade and the SSD without thinking about the need for format the SSD. Then I used win2usb to create an external flash drive to run my Windows 10 installation.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      @@chslaw not a moron, it's just a weird process. You can still run windows off that stick, but it's a much smoother process on that ssd

    • @chslaw
      @chslaw 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo But I need to take it apart again to format the SSD I already, right? Regardless of whether I run it off the stick or not?
      By the way, appreciate the videos. I had the VCS as a kid and the Atari 800 was my first computer. Yes, I am that old.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      @@chslaw yeah you still need to take the SSD out. I don't think you can transfer it to the SSD

  • @LeaseACarOnline
    @LeaseACarOnline 3 года назад

    Can anyone tell me how I can actually get into the bios menu on the VCS?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      You need a keyboard and when you reset you need to hit escape repeating and you'll enter it.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 3 года назад

    Huh,The atari vcs hasn’t officially be released yet.

  • @deusprogrammer_thekingofspace
    @deusprogrammer_thekingofspace 3 года назад

    So...if I install the second OS, will it still boot the Atari OS by default and then go to Windows 10 when I launch the PC Mode tab?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      It will always boot to Atari OS by default if you have an OS installed on the drive. If you installed Windows 10 on a flash drive, the Atari VCS will always boot to windows by default as long as the drive is inserted.

  • @mr.coolio4321
    @mr.coolio4321 3 года назад +1

    Could you upgrade the processor?

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      No. It's all on the chip. So if you want to change it, you need a whole new system

    • @mr.coolio4321
      @mr.coolio4321 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo oh right

  • @mrhappy8966
    @mrhappy8966 3 года назад

    6:36 that first stick of ram is crooked and my ocd was insanely triggered lol

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад +1

      I assure you everything is properly seated :)

    • @mrhappy8966
      @mrhappy8966 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo ok good lol

  • @robertm8380
    @robertm8380 9 месяцев назад

    Can you upgrade the CPU chip or just the memory

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  9 месяцев назад +1

      No. It's all integrated. But I believe you can overclock it

  • @yllib2012
    @yllib2012 3 года назад +1

    Hate to break it to you but 32GB RAM is well over double this mini PC can make use of. There is absolutely nothing this PC is capable of doing that can utilize anything over 16GB. Even 16GB is overkill for such o low spec PC. Let's face it, it's a fairly slow dual core CPU. As long as the RAM is in dual channel you will not gain any performance with 32GB RAM over the 8GB it comes with.

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      Yeah. I bought 32 because I needed it fast for a video. If I could do it over again I would probably have gone with 16. Apparently with the bios unlocked you can use more Vram but I need to look into it further.
      As long as I got to show off the installation it'll work.

    • @cyrollan
      @cyrollan Месяц назад

      three years later... RAM is so cheap one might as well install 32GB.

  • @DiceAdvanturer
    @DiceAdvanturer 3 года назад

    you can change the original 32 gb original ssd?

  • @nbttl1975
    @nbttl1975 3 года назад

    Will Lakka OS run on this?

  • @rabidrivas
    @rabidrivas 3 года назад +1

    It is so sad Gamer OS can0t run on this. Great video by the way!

    • @SuperNicktendo
      @SuperNicktendo  3 года назад

      Hopefully someone figures out how to crack it

    • @rabidrivas
      @rabidrivas 3 года назад +1

      @@SuperNicktendo Maybe a bios update by atari

    • @PatrickThomasBrady
      @PatrickThomasBrady 3 года назад

      @@SuperNicktendo I think it will be, it’s always these offshoot computer/console/whatever you want to call it, that tinkerers love to experiment with and take it as a challenge to get the best performance/experience possible out of it