Decathlon Quechua 500 It's Excellent, if you know how to use one!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The Decathlon QUECHUA 500 wood burning stove has attracted a lot of bad publicity on RUclips. I looked carefully at the design and decided to buy one and test it out. The design told me that these stoves, if correctly operated should be pretty much smokeless. One has to realise that the ash tray also forms part of the lower air intake into the combustion chamber. The ash tray has been designed such that it can be partly removed to allow air to enter the combustion chamber, yet at the same time still catch any falling hot ashes. This is possible because the ash tray has a large flange around it. If one doesn't open the ash tray then no air can enter the combustion chamber properly.
This design also requires a quick pre heat with very rapidly burning material/tinder. What this does, is to heat the inner wall of the chamber and hot air will begin to rise inside the double wall construction of this stove and increase in velocity due to the conical nature of the construction.
Fresh air for this pathway comes from outer vents at the periphery of the base. This rising hot air will combine with any unburnt gases leaving the combustion chamber and add to the oxygen content just below the upper vents of the stove. If one follows these instructions and places any pot or pan completely occluding the large upper opening of the combustion chamber then almost no smoke will be made and combustion will be complete.
Flames can exit the upper vent and only serve to heat larger saucepans/pots etc. If one doesn't operate this type of stove in this manner then it will definitely be smoky only because there is incomplete combustion occurring. Like any good wood burning stove, in order to operate as efficiently as possible, good quality fuel should be used and the correct amount of air (aka oxygen) should be introduced to the combustion chamber via manipulating the ash tray/vent. It is important not to overload ANY wood burning stove/heater for this reason.
So in summary, this stove, the QUECHUA 500 is actually a great wood burning stove which could be used in a sensitive environment where ground fires are not permitted nor are the ashes from ones fire to be left. day hiking for sure, car camping, group hiking and camping but solo camping, maybe; as unlike a bush box or foldable stove, it can not be compressed, however, one can easily pack the inside with wood fuel or even food for day hikes etc.
In keeping with the channel philosophy, BushCampingTools, I only want to present good gear, not waste my time or yours showing rubbish which will fail.
It comes with a 5 year warranty, and is made from stainless steel, riveted and spot welded and also TIG welded construction, utilising a thick stainless steel pin for the door hinge, all with a good robust feel to it. The stove comes in a simply semi-padded ballistic Nylon case.
Don't let anyone tell you they are rubbish, because it's not true, they just don't understand how to use one properly.
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This is the difference between a expert and a “expert” review on RUclips. A lot of folks just testing products with little knowledge just for clicks. Thank you for the good educational review.
Hi there.Yes for sure. Your comments are very much appreciated. Unfortunately there are many channels like this and I was a long term subscriber of these channels as well- all still very popular of course but when they started to review stuff with such "expertise" and clearly no idea of how the product works or was intended or otherwise, I just gave up. It's very frustrating seeing this and worse still misleading to the public that visit these channels (as many take their advice from the social media these days-right or wrong-, eg buying a new car, finding a plumber buying a tent etc LOL) However, as you say, "just for clicks"
Agree with everything you said, Francis.
I own this stove and it is great. No problems with using it.
The only thing is that this is too heavy for someone who is hiking.
But for camping or traveling by car it is absolutely great.
I even use it sometimes at home in the garden to prepare my food.
Hi there, yeah whilst I walked in with it for this video, it wasn't far and i only carried the wood, (those 2 birch branches) water and meat with us, plus it wasn't that far only about 3km round trip and on a flat road all under trees (except for where I made the video). It just takes up a lot of room in the pack. I think for home too they would be great for quick simple BBQs. As always, thanks for watching and commenting! I think my kid will take it away car camping soon too BTW and I'll loose it LOL!
I carry it in my pannier and place all my spices in the inside hollow area. What I learnt was to place less fuel open the trap door and I made an adaptpr so that the pot does not rest directly on the stove but above it.
Exactly my tougths, i bougth it for my off grid adventure, not fir hiking.
great! finally a good, helpful review of the stove! It's a shame that Decathlon didn’t provide instructions for its product. But you did that job!
Hi, thanks very much for saying tis. Yes, it would have been much better had they provided a "Manual" /"Operating Instructions" So many have slagged this product, when in fact it works quite well for a number of different kinds of wood. manipulating the ash tray makes all the difference and one ends up with just fine powder after using. Thanks for watching!
Thnx for Sharing, Gr8 content and useful information Keep up the good work 👌
I had a little doubt about this stove but after watching ur video have now decided to purchase it
Regards from India 🇮🇳 😀 ♥️
Fantastic review Francis thanks for the honest feedback!
Hi mate, thanks, much appreciated!
@@BushCampingTools absolutely! Hope you have a great rest of the weekend ☺️🙏🏼
@@MrLeonidas0001 You too man!
Thank for the video,just to be sure, I used elevation with some piece of iron when I cooked with a bigger pan to provide proper airflow.
For the complains,this was the reason for people negativ feedback. If you are not a fire expert (including me ) and just burn some wood that airflow space will be important.
Sounds great!
Great information, thank you for showing us how to use the product correctly, I just picked one up. As for the way you cook your food, that's what you do and I won't criticise someone on their own methods unlike most people in the comments. Thanks again!
Much appreciated. Make sure you see my other videos on this great little stove. They all emphaszie the correct way to have it running.
I tried charcoal for a test in mine and it was really good and long lasting.
Yeah, I've been thinking about using charcoal too and that's good to know. It is a good stove but just too many people slagging it and basically not knowing how to use it properly.
@@BushCampingTools I think your review was dead right, I didn't buy mine for camping particularly as they are a bit bulky. But because of the build quality, it will outlast me !. Mine is more of back up stove for power outages etc. A I'll be quite happy to use it. Best wishes from Eric, UK
@@ericking7406 Hi Eric, I'm glad you like it and ur right they certainly appear well-made and should last a long time. Hope you like what you see on the channel, i'm trying to broaden the subject matter but still keep it to what I know something about. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, it looks like it is well made, like a little potbelly stove
Yes, It works just fine with multiple different fuels. I've flogged mine many times and it's great. If it's smoking too much it is over packed with fuel and the gassification process can not work and or the lower ash tray which acts as a lower vent is not being used properly. Thanks for watching!
Just look up what a "rocket stove" is. It's a super efficient wood stove designed for burning small fuel such as twigs and branches but it burns hot! Most of the reviewers complaining about smoke overload this thing like it is a traditional stove.
Absolutely.
Thanks, that was helpful.
Glad to be of service! Thanks for watching!
Detailed review but man, why putting meat on open flame?
Thanks. That's the way I like it for that type of meat. I't not too thick and full of fat to be burnt off. if u do it with lean meat it will of course be terrible. Trust me it was delicious.
Where is powerbank operated blower??????I asked at there outlet at Gurugram cyber city.they said we are not supplying it .you will have to order it of your own online.
I don't know about any power bank powered blower. This system doesn't require it.
That's with biolite i guess.. are you using this one?? Please give your feedback.
@@advencharas I guess he means the Biolite cause the original Biolite, the one developed for third world countries, looks very much like the Quechua 500. Cheers.
I love it, I may get one for bikepacking (though I did think that I would prefer one a little smaller).
I used to make a similar looking stove like the one in the video made out 2 large aluminum cans, one stacked on top of the other - the can on top would have the lid + bottom part cut off, and slits cut into the sides of the end of the can, so that the slits could be slotted into the can below it. A hole was cut in one side of the bottom can to fit a smaller can that was positioned horizontally - for air circulation and to feed tinder through it.
It worked well - downside was that it might have at most 3 uses before it became too burnt and brittle to use anymore. Upside is that it's free of charge, plus reusing cans to make a DIY disposable stove. Large cans were obtained from the kitchen staff of a restaurant.
Hi there, great for experimenting for sure. yeah i do recommend them. I used to do a lot of bike touring all over Indonesia and japan and Australia, you'd need some big panniers LOL.
Thanks for share video
Thank you for watching!
Crazy man :D You like coal rather than meat?
For what it's worth it wasn't burnt.
Can you use this for heating or is it just for cooking?
That depends upon where you are and if u have adequate ventilation and don't want to die from CO But yeah i pumps out the heat for sure and is very fuel efficient. We have tested for cooking the following fuels: Whole walnuts (they were excellent, ie in the shell; pine cones from P. radiata; oak, walnut (wood only); mulberry; plum (both wild and orchard material); birch and beech. I'm sure it will god to go with any Aussie eucalyptus, wattle etc. The harder the wood, the quicker it boils water the key is not to over fill this design of gasification stove, otherwise it won't work properly; the good thing is it is extremely fuel efficient.
@@BushCampingTools Basically, can it replace a campfire in the open on a cold night? Let's say 5-15 degrees celsius...
@@djijomurdjevic One can get avery close to this stove and warm ones hands easily. The stove, because it is double walled (due to the design for gasification process) doesn't radiate much sideways IR, this is a negative for heating ones body but if all you want is to warm your hands on a cold night. For example, yesterday it was 3C in that video and raining. I did indeed use it to warm my hands and u can get close to it and the advantage there is that you will not burn your clothes as easily as for an open fire. I would say nothing beats an open fire but if it is for morale purposes then it could work from that aspect and it is basically unaffected by the wind, unlike a fire, whose placement and design must take the wind into account. However, upon saying all of that using one of those long term white spirit Pt catalyst hand heaters are pretty good too. When the wood is really wet , it can be dried very fast and effectively with this stove, so also from that aspect, if one has to use wet wood ad get it dry fast, this stove is good for that once it gets going. Hope that helps.
How would you compare this to solo stove?
I'll have to check it out and get back to you. Stay tuned!
Madre mía filete a la carbonara!! 🤣
LOL, you bet!
How to burn meat.
But this is not a portable
Yes it is check my videos about walking off the track. I chuck it in the back pack for a big serious day hike off track. I'm only using a Deuter Guide 35 Plus. Lots of room left for thermals, waterproofs and food, lights etc. in case of over nighter etc etc.
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Just 3 trips, it has been on many more , up to 8km round trips for short day walks
I also carry it stuffed or rather packed carefully with the wood I will use and other fire tinder to get it going. So as not to carry it empty and waste space within my pack. If I want big then I take the car and the WTS 380
Pronounced Kecheah
Thanks fo the heads up!
I have learnt to cut and split mini logs in exactly the same way as you
But cooking on flame.... Yuck
Trust me the meat was delicious. If enough fat easy to do but of course you can't have a beer and ignore it as if you had it just over coals. And you can only do this with thin cuts of meat not thick cuts. I've been BBQing for more than 40 years LOL and people are still coming back for them.i think everyone has their own methods when it comes to these things and it's all about the fuel and how hot it is.
No the stove does no burn fantastic... the top vents are small and prevents good burning when a pot sits on top... bad air vents means a bad stove!
I woulds have to disagree with you based upon many many hours use in the field with multiple different fuels.
The design is quite good. In fact if a pot or plate sits on the top it works even better. For this stove to perform how it was designed, before any pot or grill is placed on top of it, the gasification process must be in operation. That is the air inside the twin walls must be hot enough to be rising fast enough to then mix with any unburnt gas at the top of the stove. When this happens u can see small blue flames coming out all of those small holes below the inside lip (not the outside).
If you can not see small blue flames then gasification is not happening any any pot or plate covering the top will result in lots of smoke. This stove does not work like say any of the "flat pack" type "firebox" stoves where there is not gasification involved in the operation, simple a fire is lit within a box of metal.
When this happens (gasification) you know you have the fuel and air mix right and then a pot or plate can be placed atop of the stove with no problems. I've used multiple different fuels in mine, both mixed hard and soft woods, hard woods alone and also my son took it away camping and used only the waste from shelled walnuts to power it. For that fuel it was even better because of the residual oil content in the walnut shell (fragments of un-extracted walnuts).
So the woods I have used were the following: birch, beech, wild plum, mulberry (farmed/orchard pruning), walnut, oak, pine cones (from Pinus sylvatica). We usually use lots of birch bark to fire it up and get it going with softwood twigs and or just chuck in a half handful of fat wood chips or 102cm diameter pieces.
I know some have modified it at the top but seriously, it needs no modification. The trick is it must be running really hot to work properly. Finally, the top vents are not vents but where flames should be coming out of. These holes serve as the exhaust and do not function in any way for air to enter. One needs to make sure they use the ash tray not only as an ash tray but as a air vent because it can be pulled partially out but still catching ash, however, the gap it leaves behind it is needed to allow cooler air to enter from below. Also for this stove to work properly it must not be blocked (by grass or any other material) around the three legs because a good air flow is required underneath this stove. I have a friend in Australia who has a similar stove working on the same principle and he says the same and he is using different woods to fire his up. If you try this out you will find you have changed your mind about it.
On a final final note, also this is the reason why the WTG WTS380 has the pipe inside the stove with all of the holes drilled/milled into it, it acts an air intake where secondary combustion takes place to stop the stove smoking even when all vents are almost closed. So that's like the equivalent of the inside ridge of the Quechua 500, the whole thing being a pipe in effect.
@@BushCampingTools wow was that long... I saw a video which said poor air supply produced extremely smokey burn... ouch!
The pan was too narrow, in the meat was burnt! How stupid do you think people are?
As stupid as people who attempt to slag my cooking, (and clearly know nothing about BBQing meat) and especially those (LOL) who weren't there but for some reasons unbeknownst to mankind have obtained such information. Does that answer your question? However, you are entitled to your opinion.
The meat was burnt!
Inside looked 👍🏼
Stove is impractical and poorly made, it lacks more ventilation. The meat is roasted like charcoal.
Really? What strongly riveted and welded with proper welding beads, all in stainless steel with a 5 year warranty; u call this poorly made LOL?
I invite you to suggest to all here how you would make it, or your version of a "practical made stove" and how you cook meat.
But seriously, I love it how people make comments like yours but never go on to say how they would do it. Thanks for watching anyway!
@@BushCampingTools
Stove is bulky and impractical to carry. It lacks more air vents to burn better and smoke less. There are many better and more practical ones.
And meat burned like this is for throwing away and not for eating.
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