Nothing about this evening was a "Battle", we played to each other to give each line a taste of what we do. This is the first time in the modern Big 8 era that we have had the opportunity to play with an HBCU line and we were only given a small amount of time before Bethune had to load back on to the buses. Everyone on Big 8 had nothing but the utmost respect for Sudden Impact and that is shown at the end of this video.
Way late here, but man. I'm so glad you said that. When I first went to watch, I thought "is Bethune sure they really want to battle?" Glad to know it wasn't like that, and you're right. The ending really shows that. Too bad they didn't have more time to mingle.
Phenomenal!!!!!! I enjoyed both lines, but there's nothing like the sound of the HBCU! Love the respect given by both lines at the end. A mutual respect for excellent musicianship on both sides. Always believed that the televised halftime should feature more of this excellence!! Well done BCU and FSU!!!
I'm half way through, and I must say...FSU played like they'd been waiting for this moment, for all their lives! My mom went to Bethune, my dad went to FAMU, my brother and sister went to FSU, so by default I'm a Nole (not sure how that algebraic formulation formulates, but it did and will continue to for eternity)
I'm torn in between the two!! I've always been a Big 8 fan since my playing days, but I started loving Cookman when I attended my first Florida Classic. I love Cookmans precision and cleanliness. They don't sound like your typical HBCU drumline. Hats off to them for this one, I think they took the cake! Those snares were on point!
I like seeing videos like this. It's good to see our SWAC and MEAC bands showing off more than their showmanship and getting into "battle" with other schools and drum corps to make them think about it
I was at the game, but didn't see this, so first off, thanks for sharing the video. BCU rocked the stadium and was an absolute blast to see and listen to. The chiefs don't quite get down like that LOL So the Wildcats were a special treat for us. But, holy cow, our Big 8 is bad ass. Yes it was long, but it was awesome. I wish BCU had more time but it was great to see the respect at the end. Great job all around.
fuck all that... I love to see to different drumlins come together and battle. But don't play a long ass drum cadence in a battle then call it a automatic win.
rellulose Sequence is an FSU tradition. It is added to every year by the current Big8 line. That's why it is so long. And every year the new Big8 members have to learn the WHOLE DAMN THING and then figure out something to ADD to it.
I have a new outlook on FSU, I am a true Wildcat through and through till I die, but FSU you ROCK!!! This will be put in my favorites. I have nothing negative to say, there was showing of respect at the end
Are there any other videos like this that anyone knows of. The only video I've seen like this is SCSU vs IU. We need more meetings like this, and more people need to view meetings like this, so we can all evaluate what it is we are and are not doing.
Being an alumni for the Great Bethune-Cookman University we have the best band in the world. I do love my seminoles though. Noles have a excellent band I tried out for both bands when I was in High school.
I enjoyed the respect level they had for each other at the end..all love. Of course FSU did their thing and killed it for sure. They showed all skill with a sense of jam to it and that's what battle is all about.
They both did great. Honestly I understand why ppl say Fsu won but it wasn't really fair considering they played for like 10 min non stop. Bethune barely got to show off anything. So I say great job to both but next time lets not play any of those super long cadences during a battle.
The long cadence that FSU played is called "The Big Eight Sequence". It's their stadium entrance cadence. They play it from their pregame show as they march the half mile or so to the stadium. Most other bands will just use one of their shorter field entrance/exit cadences and repeat as necessary. Not Big 8, they've had this same cadence for 20+ years, adding to it and tweaking it every year. I actually went to this game and BC's rocked the house, but as a drummer FSU is far more technical.
To be clear, it was BCU's tenor line that was way too close to the camera. This was a very nice play around. FSU did not win simply because they played a cadence for 9 minutes. They did not win because they are corp and show lines are inferior (totally not true). Both lines met at the beginning of the season and did their thing. I'd love to see them meet in November.
The 'name' of the cadence is "Sequence", and yes it's made up of numerous cadences played in a given order. FSU has been doing this since the early 1970's.
I'm actually really surprised that the ending to Sequence was put in this early. I think they worked it in the week prior to this because it wasn't in place yet as of the Nevada game. You could tell as the end snares were having troubles when it got near that part. Especially the poor kid on the far left of camera.
are you people watching the same video that I am? fsu keeps doing the same stuff and for a battle that cadence went to long. BCU cadences flow together the problem is the difference in conference. a core style vs a more seasoned drumline. I have to give the W to BCU.
Two different styles of percussion coming together to showcase their respective divisions should be about fun. Not who is the best. Both programs practice in similar styles. This is a debate that has gone on since the late 1800's when Marching percussion moved from a unison style of play to adopt a more melodic movement in the Battery section to make the music more interesting for the pieces that were common in the early years. Corps-style programs focus on working the sections with the techniques needed for the music that is to be played later in the season. Most Show-style programs focus on the culture that has been developed to showcase Cadences as their bread and butter since most Chart hits are simplistic in nature. Not to say programs don't have a Percussion staff that write more involved pieces for the section, but this unison style is still prevalent in most programs. You cannot choose a winner it is impossible in my opinion. Why not respect both programs for even coming together in a mature manner. In both programs you have to earn the right to even play. From the story in the description this showcase of talent was difficult to even make happen. I wish both cultures would just respect the other instead of making it into a debate. Percussion is difficult enough to showcase as is, they approached the meet up with respect and integrity. What more do you want ?
Fsu looks like they are having some fun,however i prefer Bcu that's just me. not saying one is better than the other they are just different and that is what makes this video fun to look at n.n
This was a great show. I think FSU show was too long but it all sounded great. BCU barely played anything but they did well. It's great seeing what other bands can bring to the table.
As a bcu and fsu fan I gotta give this one to fsu because they were cleaner and had better tonals. By the way I play in a traditional band so I understand how different they are which is why most bcu fans wouldnt like the core style and say its boring.
FSU WOULD HAVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED IN THE DRUMLINE MOVIE FOR THE GUNS N ROSES EXTENDED SHOW . FOR ALL THOSE THINK THEY KNOW DRUMMERS THAT BANGING ON POTS N PANS N COW BELL CALLED CADENCES WASN'T CRAP!!!
I wudda loved to see Norfolk State vs BCU but besides that i thought FSU won in a tight fashion jus because it appears to be more cleaner all in all thought BCU did a good job tho
Cookman killed it the little bit that was shown...very clean and uniformed..i can see the unity and discipline among the musicians they just didn't have enough time BUT if time was allowed to them FSU would have been Toast! FSU is awesome, but was a little sloppy to me and a stick was dropped from FSU. Was alittle Glee clubbish like for me...Cookman WAS READY!!
With all due respect the rules in HBCU are way differnt from rules in Big 8. BCU was in battle mode and FSU was unaware. Good thing it went no further than this. In HBCU Terms when evre you line up IT'S WAR TIME. nice showing (exibition) though. Good to see a corps style band V.S a HBCU. wish to do it more
Legend has it that the FSU drumline is still there playing their cadence to this day.
Charles Webb I hit the FF button like five times and they were stilllllll playing 😆
lol Hell naw!
They kept playing because they knew Bethune Cook man had was going to beat them
Nothing about this evening was a "Battle", we played to each other to give each line a taste of what we do. This is the first time in the modern Big 8 era that we have had the opportunity to play with an HBCU line and we were only given a small amount of time before Bethune had to load back on to the buses. Everyone on Big 8 had nothing but the utmost respect for Sudden Impact and that is shown at the end of this video.
This was truly awesome! Mad respect for Bethune but y'all kicked it up a notch and showed some serious talent!
Way late here, but man. I'm so glad you said that. When I first went to watch, I thought "is Bethune sure they really want to battle?" Glad to know it wasn't like that, and you're right. The ending really shows that. Too bad they didn't have more time to mingle.
Phenomenal!!!!!! I enjoyed both lines, but there's nothing like the sound of the HBCU! Love the respect given by both lines at the end. A mutual respect for excellent musicianship on both sides.
Always believed that the televised halftime should feature more of this excellence!! Well done BCU and FSU!!!
Best part about the video was the end when everybody shook hands. Nice chops, both lines.
jalen johnson That's what it's all about. Making music and having fun!
I love the musical bond between the two line. This is what KKpsi is all about..... I love it!!!!
they both sounded great , don't hate , they work hard
Kent Custer Yes
This never gets old…. Good battle!!! I’d like to see this again!!!! Sudden Impact 👍🏾💪🏾🫵🏾
FSU's line is great, brought back so many high school memories man! Both were great really! I love BCU's band as a whole when they're on the field.
I'm half way through, and I must say...FSU played like they'd been waiting for this moment, for all their lives! My mom went to Bethune, my dad went to FAMU, my brother and sister went to FSU, so by default I'm a Nole (not sure how that algebraic formulation formulates, but it did and will continue to for eternity)
I'm torn in between the two!! I've always been a Big 8 fan since my playing days, but I started loving Cookman when I attended my first Florida Classic. I love Cookmans precision and cleanliness. They don't sound like your typical HBCU drumline. Hats off to them for this one, I think they took the cake! Those snares were on point!
I like seeing videos like this. It's good to see our SWAC and MEAC bands showing off more than their showmanship and getting into "battle" with other schools and drum corps to make them think about it
I was at the game, but didn't see this, so first off, thanks for sharing the video. BCU rocked the stadium and was an absolute blast to see and listen to. The chiefs don't quite get down like that LOL So the Wildcats were a special treat for us. But, holy cow, our Big 8 is bad ass. Yes it was long, but it was awesome. I wish BCU had more time but it was great to see the respect at the end. Great job all around.
Dang.... FSU's second one went on.....forever.
That’s the Big 8 sequence 😎
Good drumming from both schools. I enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
I love watching both sides get down to what the other is playing. Watching the FSU guys groovin is just smile inducing.
fuck all that... I love to see to different drumlins come together and battle. But don't play a long ass drum cadence in a battle then call it a automatic win.
This was so awesome. A HBCU and D1 school going at it shownig great bandsmen ship.
Both my absolute favorite marching bands/drum lines. This is legendary.
Cookman held way back....."WHO plays a 15 minute cadence though?
Big8 does! You werent paying attention
John Black In a proper battle you don't play your ENTIRE series. Way too long...
rellulose
Sequence is an FSU tradition. It is added to every year by the current Big8 line. That's why it is so long. And every year the new Big8 members have to learn the WHOLE DAMN THING and then figure out something to ADD to it.
+PoliScikosis Crazy tradition. You don't want to bore your opponent and especially the audience.
+PoliScikosis Crazy tradition. You don't want to bore your opponent and especially the audience.
FSU bass line was crazy. BCU was good but the tenors were too loud to me overall great job both
tdlogan20 loud because the cam was right by then 🤦🏽♂️ lol
True Musicianship shown here, To all the members from FSU & BCU, Well done. That is how it's done.
You guys didnt even play around with Cookman's drumline, went into Sequence so quick. Great job.
I have a new outlook on FSU, I am a true Wildcat through and through till I die, but FSU you ROCK!!! This will be put in my favorites. I have nothing negative to say, there was showing of respect at the end
Are there any other videos like this that anyone knows of. The only video I've seen like this is SCSU vs IU. We need more meetings like this, and more people need to view meetings like this, so we can all evaluate what it is we are and are not doing.
SonicBoomC98 Hey just look up COLD STEEL VS UNC Tar Heels on You Tube. If you wanna see a HBCU vs D1 match up!!! It wasn't close bruh!!
I am a Seminole. Much love for BCC. I was there. That was under the days of Bobby Bowden.
Did FSU play the whole book in one whole cadence?..dam
Being an alumni for the Great Bethune-Cookman University we have the best band in the world. I do love my seminoles though. Noles have a excellent band I tried out for both bands when I was in High school.
...and that the end of the video...that's what it's all about!! both were clean!
I enjoyed the respect level they had for each other at the end..all love. Of course FSU did their thing and killed it for sure. They showed all skill with a sense of jam to it and that's what battle is all about.
Take into consideration that the camera man was RIGHT NEXT to the tenor drums.
They both did great. Honestly I understand why ppl say Fsu won but it wasn't really fair considering they played for like 10 min non stop. Bethune barely got to show off anything. So I say great job to both but next time lets not play any of those super long cadences during a battle.
Narasukedon I don’t think FSU won at all
Christopher Taplin i honestly wouldn’t even know what makes someone win or lose I’m not a percussionist 😂
At the end....BEAUTIFUL...
The long cadence that FSU played is called "The Big Eight Sequence". It's their stadium entrance cadence. They play it from their pregame show as they march the half mile or so to the stadium. Most other bands will just use one of their shorter field entrance/exit cadences and repeat as necessary. Not Big 8, they've had this same cadence for 20+ years, adding to it and tweaking it every year.
I actually went to this game and BC's rocked the house, but as a drummer FSU is far more technical.
"They say it was a tie ?" -_- No it wasn't even a battle.
14:57 is LIT
Loving the friendly competition. Even more respect to Mr. Wells for making the line shake hands!
To be clear, it was BCU's tenor line that was way too close to the camera. This was a very nice play around. FSU did not win simply because they played a cadence for 9 minutes. They did not win because they are corp and show lines are inferior (totally not true). Both lines met at the beginning of the season and did their thing. I'd love to see them meet in November.
Fsu bass line doe.. too good.
Great battle, thought I almost went to sleep during an FSU cadence Lol.. But man both lines were clean!
The 'name' of the cadence is "Sequence", and yes it's made up of numerous cadences played in a given order. FSU has been doing this since the early 1970's.
they gotta stop dat shit frfr😭
awesome i love drum competitions be it corp style or march style
both rocked the house
This was great! These two, together!
The two schools I am contemplating on attending for music. I still don't know >.>
Good vid! Great job on both sides!!
@raymont lynch were you just saying that in general? Because Bethune doesn't not have a KKPsi?
I'm actually really surprised that the ending to Sequence was put in this early. I think they worked it in the week prior to this because it wasn't in place yet as of the Nevada game. You could tell as the end snares were having troubles when it got near that part. Especially the poor kid on the far left of camera.
Cookman's drumline has a great sound. Material is great. Get rid of the tenors tho. They both did very well and sounded good.
are you people watching the same video that I am? fsu keeps doing the same stuff and for a battle that cadence went to long. BCU cadences flow together the problem is the difference in conference. a core style vs a more seasoned drumline. I have to give the W to BCU.
Uh. Same stuff? That's called tradition.
Fred Maxwell It doesn’t matter if it changes or not the cadences were easy and middle school at best.
Have fun in the core! When u get bored. Come up and have some fun!
briteal1 😴😴 Boring.. and I am willing to bet that BCU drumline didn't even give fsu their best battle Cadences why waste time and effort on them 🤣
Fred Maxwell I think BCU cadences is better than FSU
Two different styles of percussion coming together to showcase their respective divisions should be about fun. Not who is the best. Both programs practice in similar styles. This is a debate that has gone on since the late 1800's when Marching percussion moved from a unison style of play to adopt a more melodic movement in the Battery section to make the music more interesting for the pieces that were common in the early years. Corps-style programs focus on working the sections with the techniques needed for the music that is to be played later in the season. Most Show-style programs focus on the culture that has been developed to showcase Cadences as their bread and butter since most Chart hits are simplistic in nature. Not to say programs don't have a Percussion staff that write more involved pieces for the section, but this unison style is still prevalent in most programs. You cannot choose a winner it is impossible in my opinion. Why not respect both programs for even coming together in a mature manner. In both programs you have to earn the right to even play. From the story in the description this showcase of talent was difficult to even make happen. I wish both cultures would just respect the other instead of making it into a debate. Percussion is difficult enough to showcase as is, they approached the meet up with respect and integrity.
What more do you want ?
Anyone know the name of the 1st cadence BCU played? And where I can find more videos on them battling?
“6/8”
Man that was the longest competition cadence I've ever heard in my life FSU...
Maan these are so freakin' cool!!
Sudden impact was powerful but FSU was cleeeaan. My opinion both sides were on point but FSU gets the W. Great battle and sportsmanship. Great video!
Fsu looks like they are having some fun,however i prefer Bcu that's just me. not saying one is better than the other they are just different and that is what makes this video fun to look at n.n
I think FSU's center snare marched Cadets 2013. Great video!
cool battle but why would FSU play the Sequence as a battle cadence? Just too long!
What does "oos oos" mean?
FSU played a whole show
I love it. We're in this thing together.
Was that just one REALLY long cadence or a couple put together
Come up to Tallahassee and figure it out!
@Ahmad Sabara it's 1
BCU got that!
So who won
Respect Man the Best of Both Worlds...
I knew when I seen jam blocks on FSU's bass drums shit was about to get real lol...
Cookman bringing that heat
Who won the game...both bands good
looked like theyre called cook man for a reason
Winner- Seminoles!! not even close!! they was doing some serious chopping!!
This was a great show. I think FSU show was too long but it all sounded great. BCU barely played anything but they did well. It's great seeing what other bands can bring to the table.
As a bcu and fsu fan I gotta give this one to fsu because they were cleaner and had better tonals. By the way I play in a traditional band so I understand how different they are which is why most bcu fans wouldnt like the core style and say its boring.
I don't know why, but BCU snares always sound dirty to me. it never sounds like one snare like it should.
Bethune playing tribal music
They all are awesome!
Thats just cool!.... No other way to describe it!
thts awesome, i think bcu did really good, both i love the love at the end
FSU WOULD HAVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED IN THE DRUMLINE MOVIE FOR THE GUNS N ROSES EXTENDED SHOW . FOR ALL THOSE THINK THEY KNOW DRUMMERS THAT BANGING ON POTS N PANS N COW BELL CALLED CADENCES WASN'T CRAP!!!
Mr wells and that damn megaphone
Awesome Video!
17:24 "Ya'll sound like water back there." Said to bass line. Pretty nice compliment.
Actually, FSU's snare line is pretty clean.
lmao Fsu drumline is jigging to Bcu cadences 😂
I've never fallen asleep to a drumline playing. FSU what was goin on
Great battle!!!
I’m the end they all shook hands that’s what’s up. That what it is all about sportsmanship
Idu the point of the tenor line
I wudda loved to see Norfolk State vs BCU but besides that i thought FSU won in a tight fashion jus because it appears to be more cleaner all in all thought BCU did a good job tho
nice
Aaron Lightfoot Yeah NSU clean too :]
I would like to see NSU vs BCU I believe NSU is better tho
That part....
Both bands held their own. Both were
Learn from each other...
Love to see them both at Thanksgiving marching passed Macys!
Cookman killed it the little bit that was shown...very clean and uniformed..i can see the unity and discipline among the musicians they just didn't have enough time BUT if time was allowed to them FSU would have been Toast! FSU is awesome, but was a little sloppy to me and a stick was dropped from FSU. Was alittle Glee clubbish like for me...Cookman WAS READY!!
With all due respect the rules in HBCU are way differnt from rules in Big 8. BCU was in battle mode and FSU was unaware. Good thing it went no further than this. In HBCU Terms when evre you line up IT'S WAR TIME. nice showing (exibition) though. Good to see a corps style band V.S a HBCU. wish to do it more
Also, was I the only person hear to get happy when I heard "Sequence"?
Man that cadence was long! Why don’t they just play a small section of it so it doesn’t last so long?
Both were good but damn fsu, yall tried to take all the time did ya? 😄😄
Both did amazing!!!!
fsu was stalling with there long ASS cadance
BCU for the W
FSU played their marching sequence
Good Stuff!
GO NOLES!!! Sick drumline!!!
That was siiiiiiiiiiiiiick!