Great video Voro! I have been trying to learn this maneuver for a few days on the SIM before I try on my new parkzone SU 29MM. I have not been very successful at all. I watched your video once and now I can do both inverted and normal flat spins! Thanks so much for your videos and time! I will be watching all the rest of your videos tonight, hopefully I can have similar luck with the rest of the maneuvers you posted. Thanks again man!!!!
If you aply little more throttle the nose will pick up and your you can delay more your fall. But if you aply to much your airplane will roll. You need the wright amount of throttle to make a perfect flat spin. Nice toturial!!!
On some of nose heavy planes ive had to add throttle to keep the nose up. if not it falls out of spin by adding a little throttle it keep the level. awesome flying by the way. great vids
After 11 years, I still find your videos the easiest to understand when using my sim.
2 года назад
Awesome! Thanks! Trick... if you are going to go with Right Rudder then do right aileron during the fall, but if you are going to do left then go left aileron
Very nice you donate the time to help fellow flyers all new to me but looking forward to the field after I do lots of training on the Sim thanks again.
great tutorial....2 tumbs up ..thanks a lot..I am practicing now
5 лет назад
Hi. Great video... I'm a beginner in aerobatics and I love flight my MX2 almost all weekends and publish my videos about what a I learn with him and all can learn too. It's a great Electric RC Airplane to do 3D for a beginner like me... Be welcome and again, thanks very much for this fantastic lesson, best regards!
Right after you get into the vertical nose dive, you fully deflect the aileron to get the plane into the spin dive first before deflecting the rudder and elevator. What is that function of that spin dive?
Hi Voro , i have a PA Addiction x and i love it , i cant do the rolling harrier quiet yet but im still practicing , i have just got a PA mini Katana and it fly's so bad , i had to add lots of nose weight but it still fly's so different to the addiction x , would you say that smaller planes are harder to fly or is it because of the style of plane , as the addiction x is made for 3D and the mini katana is more of a style of a real plane ?? Would you practice with just one plane to learn 3D or do you think its best to fly differant air frames ?? many thanks , your videos are so helpful , Scott .......
@@finntobin6887 Ha ha, no good, still can't work it out, can do it in a flight sim, but in real life it just doesnt seem to work, might be the plane? more likely the pilot (0;
Do you know what the maneuver is called that is like an inverted flat spin but it is stationary in the air and the nose is pointed up a bit? Almost sping in a harrier possition.
In my country it is mandatory to pass an exam flying a specific figure . every class has its own, gliders, motor and jet.. do you have it over there too? and could you make a video on the mandatory figures? Thanks nico
Yes and no. Doesnt react the same with a high wing. As you probably have learned by now. The plane will always want to rotate around the center of gravity. On a high wing plane the center of gravity may be in the same relative area. However it is then moved up to the wing so youd basically be trying to spin with all the weight too high and you'd fall out of it
I've never seen a plane that'll do a flat spin without adding some opposite aileron and maybe some throttle. A spin with just rudder and elevator and no ailerons is just a spin. The plane in this simulator doesn't look all that realistic..
DL3CE Wouldn't flying a scale model aircraft in a sim be the same as flying a real aircraft in a sim? I guess the difference is you use your model aircraft controller to do it.
Model aircraft generally have significantly different flying characteric from real ones: Especially aerobatic models are WAY more agile and have WAY more engine power in relation to their weight than fullsize ones .. Thrust:Weight ratios of 2:1-3:1 are perfectly normal, in reality only fighter jets with afterburnes may archieve that. Because of that, many of the maneuvers which are possible would most likely kill a living pilot inside there (you quite easily can get 20 Gs and more). Even small training models typically leave the ground after a few meters and are able to climb out in 40-50° and do 360° circles in a few seconds (a standard turn in 1:1 aviation is 2minutes for 360°). You see, there are many reasons for specialized products for this market. And yes, you use your real RC .. that's essential to get the correct eye-hand reflexes.
The main reason you want a special RC sim is point of view - flying RC, you're standing on the ground looking up at the model, in "normal" flight sim's you're sitting in the cockpit. Very different experience. The main use for RC sim's is as training for flying real models, and it does take practice and teaching. You ARE going to crash, accept it! But a sim lets you make the mistakes you need to learn from, without it costing you a crash each time. They're also designed to let you use a real RC transmitter (Tx) as the controller, which is important for getting the feel and skills of using it for the field. Remember, some of these guys are entering serious competitions, maybe going for significant prize money, so they need a way to train, and you can't always physically get somewhere to fly day after day to get that training. I totally learned to fly RC with a simulator - I had sessions with instructors, but can only go so often, so a simulator is really handy. It doesn't seem weird when what you're trying to do is learn RC specifically and get some experience, actually it turns out to be the best way and just what's needed.
Great video Voro! I have been trying to learn this maneuver for a few days on the SIM before I try on my new parkzone SU 29MM. I have not been very successful at all. I watched your video once and now I can do both inverted and normal flat spins! Thanks so much for your videos and time! I will be watching all the rest of your videos tonight, hopefully I can have similar luck with the rest of the maneuvers you posted. Thanks again man!!!!
I went back and forth from the video to the flight sim and the information is very accurate. Nice teaching. Thank you.
Great video Voro! I have been trying to learn this maneuver for a few days on the SIM before I try on my new parkzone SU 29MM. I have not been very successful at all. I watched your video once and now I can do both inverted and normal flat spins! Thanks so much for your videos and time! I will be watching all the rest of your videos tonight, hopefully I can have similar luck with the rest of the maneuvers you posted. Thanks again man!!!!
Been flying for almost 20 years. Nice tutorial.
Watching in 2024! Thanks for these videos!
If you aply little more throttle the nose will pick up and your you can delay more your fall. But if you aply to much your airplane will roll. You need the wright amount of throttle to make a perfect flat spin. Nice toturial!!!
On some of nose heavy planes ive had to add throttle to keep the nose up. if not it falls out of spin by adding a little throttle it keep the level. awesome flying by the way. great vids
Very clear, easy to digest instructions. Thank You
After 11 years, I still find your videos the easiest to understand when using my sim.
Awesome!
Thanks!
Trick... if you are going to go with Right Rudder then do right aileron during the fall, but if you are going to do left then go left aileron
Very nice you donate the time to help fellow flyers all new to me but looking forward to the field after I do lots of training on the Sim thanks again.
Thanks Voro, you are just what I need to get to the next level: 3D! Baie dankie !
Thank you, I was able to do a flat spin the first try.
Very professional. Great vid. Thanks for sharing
What simulator program is this ? Special remote ? Thanks
Good instructions for beginners! Any chance of some mode 1 tutorials? Thank you.
Great tutorial. I'm going to try this later today for sure.
New subscriber here...
great video.. looking forward to more videos!
great stuff you are definatly encouraging me to fly thanks
@VoroRC great video tutorials wish you had more
great tutorial....2 tumbs up ..thanks a lot..I am practicing now
Hi. Great video... I'm a beginner in aerobatics and I love flight my MX2 almost all weekends and publish my videos about what a I learn with him and all can learn too. It's a great Electric RC Airplane to do 3D for a beginner like me... Be welcome and again, thanks very much for this fantastic lesson, best regards!
how can you program RF evolution to do harrier where both aileron move together,
Thanks. This is phoenix simulator.
Thanks for the tips ! Looks like is not possible to spin or
Flat spin 9.5 , do you confirm ?
Thanks in advance
Thank you lot"s
Thank you so much for this video!
thats Phoenix RC right? i use that sim, too
Thanks 🤠
What the name of the software used here? Great Videos by the way
Right after you get into the vertical nose dive, you fully deflect the aileron to get the plane into the spin dive first before deflecting the rudder and elevator. What is that function of that spin dive?
thanks bro! i need to try it tomorrow!
What video capture software are you using? Thanks in advance. Great stuff Voro!
Hi Voro , i have a PA Addiction x and i love it , i cant do the rolling harrier quiet yet but im still practicing , i have just got a PA mini Katana and it fly's so bad , i had to add lots of nose weight but it still fly's so different to the addiction x , would you say that smaller planes are harder to fly or is it because of the style of plane , as the addiction x is made for 3D and the mini katana is more of a style of a real plane ?? Would you practice with just one plane to learn 3D or do you think its best to fly differant air frames ?? many thanks , your videos are so helpful , Scott .......
Please show how to download a larger 3d plane on Phoenix and where do u get the file from ?
Can't wait to try this tomorrow (-:
Thanks!
Jax Teller RC how did it go?
@@finntobin6887
Ha ha, no good, still can't work it out, can do it in a flight sim, but in real life it just doesnt seem to work, might be the plane? more likely the pilot (0;
Great video bro!
gonna go crash my plane trying this
This guy is great, he needs more views though (:
got it from the first try :D
thanks!
is a 3d plane required or will most any plane do it?
I have a new Leader 480 precision aerobatic plane and plan to try a flat spin.
What software rc program are you using there? Please.
What is the name of the app you installed on the computer that enabled you to do your activities with the transmitter
I'm trying this in the sim but I can't get it as flat
Thank you!
Which software are you using sir
Do you know what the maneuver is called that is like an inverted flat spin but it is stationary in the air and the nose is pointed up a bit? Almost sping in a harrier possition.
Inverted pirouette?
hey Andrew i was wondering why your sukhoi flies good at the sim and mine doesn't can you tell me all of the things that you changed on the sukhoi?
you can pull out any way you want
In my country it is mandatory to pass an exam flying a specific figure . every class has its own, gliders, motor and jet.. do you have it over there too? and could you make a video on the mandatory figures? Thanks nico
Lmfao. No we can do mostly what we want. We don't let our government tell us what to do.
Well we used to
How do you make this plane fly more realistic in phoenix? O_o..it sucks and has very little rudder authority stock..
***** I fly phenix because it has quite a few of the planes i own...i own the 3.1 meter SU it flies nothing like this IRL..
what sim is this?
Hi voro,
Will i be able to do this with a motor-sailing plane as well?
I cant find a SUKHOI SU-26 in Phoenix Sim. He musg be on a different sim.
Mine has it..just update phoenix...I also have the 3.1m SU in real life..it flies nothing like it does in the sim O_o..
very helpful vid, thanks what is the simulator?
I think I've flown with you online.
Is anyone doing these knds of aerobatics with a Clipped-wing Cub?
Yes and no. Doesnt react the same with a high wing.
As you probably have learned by now.
The plane will always want to rotate around the center of gravity.
On a high wing plane the center of gravity may be in the same relative area. However it is then moved up to the wing so youd basically be trying to spin with all the weight too high and you'd fall out of it
which phoenix flight sim is this
what SIM are you flying on?
what software is this?
How about a Rolling Circle
I've never seen a plane that'll do a flat spin without adding some opposite aileron and maybe some throttle. A spin with just rudder and elevator and no ailerons is just a spin. The plane in this simulator doesn't look all that realistic..
The title says Flat Spin Tutorial. The write-up says Flap-spins. Flap-spins?
does that do mode 1? because I'm mode 1 and i was wondering what the game is?
phoenix rc, it supports mode 1
game?
what rc simulator is this and is it available on android?
Hold on, it looks like a computer game?
What’s this plane simulator?
A normal day in war thunder..
What game is this
What simulator is it?
what airplane is it
Su-26 sukoi
Is this real?
Android? Looks like its PC only
que avião é esse
oops i found it its for pc:-)
this sim looks very too slow ;-)
Does anyone else think it's really weird to have a model aircraft flight simulator? Why not an actual plane flight simulator?
Makingnewnamesisdumb
Because model aircraft simulators are there to train flying model aircrafts. Simple as that.
DL3CE Wouldn't flying a scale model aircraft in a sim be the same as flying a real aircraft in a sim? I guess the difference is you use your model aircraft controller to do it.
Model aircraft generally have significantly different flying characteric from real ones:
Especially aerobatic models are WAY more agile and have WAY more engine power in relation to their weight than fullsize ones .. Thrust:Weight ratios of 2:1-3:1 are perfectly normal, in reality only fighter jets with afterburnes may archieve that. Because of that, many of the maneuvers which are possible would most likely kill a living pilot inside there (you quite easily can get 20 Gs and more).
Even small training models typically leave the ground after a few meters and are able to climb out in 40-50° and do 360° circles in a few seconds (a standard turn in 1:1 aviation is 2minutes for 360°).
You see, there are many reasons for specialized products for this market.
And yes, you use your real RC .. that's essential to get the correct eye-hand reflexes.
The main reason you want a special RC sim is point of view - flying RC, you're standing on the ground looking up at the model, in "normal" flight sim's you're sitting in the cockpit. Very different experience. The main use for RC sim's is as training for flying real models, and it does take practice and teaching. You ARE going to crash, accept it! But a sim lets you make the mistakes you need to learn from, without it costing you a crash each time. They're also designed to let you use a real RC transmitter (Tx) as the controller, which is important for getting the feel and skills of using it for the field. Remember, some of these guys are entering serious competitions, maybe going for significant prize money, so they need a way to train, and you can't always physically get somewhere to fly day after day to get that training. I totally learned to fly RC with a simulator - I had sessions with instructors, but can only go so often, so a simulator is really handy. It doesn't seem weird when what you're trying to do is learn RC specifically and get some experience, actually it turns out to be the best way and just what's needed.
Makingnewnamesisdumb Sims are for muscle memory so you don’t ditch your model
Great video Voro! I have been trying to learn this maneuver for a few days on the SIM before I try on my new parkzone SU 29MM. I have not been very successful at all. I watched your video once and now I can do both inverted and normal flat spins! Thanks so much for your videos and time! I will be watching all the rest of your videos tonight, hopefully I can have similar luck with the rest of the maneuvers you posted. Thanks again man!!!!
What sim is this, ive been flying on Real Flight 9.5s and I cant do most of the slow stuff you can in the sim your using
@@brandonsirmons153 it's Phoenix flight sim I believe.