Is the 2007 Cadillac CTS-V the Best Super Sedan Bargain? - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2019
- Is the first gen Cadillac CTS-V the best super sedan bargain available?
There's a lot of fast sedans available on the used market, but few are as cheap to buy, and operate as the CTS-V. Broken diffs? LS changes? German competition? Cornering balancing and weird lug patterns? We talk about all of it.
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Corbin called his clutch an “absolute unit” lol
Oh wow that's my old car! I did the LS7 clutch/flywheel, short shifter, creative steel poly mounts and Android head unit. The reason the pedal is heavy is because it has the Tilton Clutch Master Cylinder. Glad to see her in good shape.
I just bought one. What head unit did you put in? I want Android auto real bad.
True. My LS7 is butter in my 06 V1 with stock master
@@colehudson7799 I put in this Chinese head unit ruclips.net/video/_bckywrixOY/видео.html
Tis a very good sedan. ZK
Did you lose any features when installing the headunit?
You love to see a Lyft driver pull up in this
Austin Bolus I had to rewind to make sure I heard that correctly in the video lol
immediate 5-stars
I miss this kind of car
It’s a sedan with a Corvette engine and 6-speed manual RWD
This and the G8.
RIPTIDE FPV oh yes and the SS
The e90 m5 6 speed
I always wanted to buy a 96 impala ss and ls swap it with a manual
LT1 Owner I love that car
I'm actually upset the hit show never took off.. its like roadkill but with even less money. I thought it was awesome.
Zack, you're killing it with the one takes right now. Good mix of cruising and pushing it.
Wait how is this a Corbin car it doesn't even have external hoses of some sort! :)
This brings back memories. I loved my CTS-V1. It was such a joy to take across the states as well as taking through the canyons. It wasn't perfect, but it had lots of personality. Sad to see it go.
Luis Balderrama what happened to her
@@p71owner53 T-Boned by a dude speeding past a red. Hit me right on the rear driver side door. That was not a good day for anyone.
Corbin's always got something interesting to drive. Nice to see he's still doing cool shit & Lyft'ing people in something fun.
Good to see Automotive Jesus on the channel again. Couple years ago I spent the day with him and a few of my buddies. Had a fun time. Got to see the Trolls Royce at his house.
Corbin's Hit Show was great.
Share it with 100k friends and we will make more. ZK
They chopped up a svo. I saw the car for sale on Craigslist
America needs more cars that walk the line of performance and comfort. Seems too many lean harder on the comfort settings now.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew it had to be Corbin. It's always great to see you on this channel.
I own an 06 with ls3 heads on the ls2 tick cam and creative steel 8/8 with an lsa supercharger on the way. Glad to see more people interested in this platform
What did you do about hood clearance?
Hey HuffBag we got some questions for you
Wild! Corbin looks older. Loved his No F's given RX7
You wouldn't be so surprised if you subscribed to him. Channel URL flyboy333
He doesn't post much anymore but there's a lot of good content there.
That video was filmed 7 years ago, so he IS older :) ZK
This car made 400 hp in the mid 2000’s way ahead of its time for American super sedans! It was the only car that that can go neck to neck to the almighty E39 s62 powered car, it actually outperformed it on and off the track. The Ss and g8 doesn’t even seem to be an improvement I’ve this imo why bothers This car set the standard for western super sedans. Forever a classic as the baddest sedan of the mid 2000’s. My 07 put two cars on a 2018 scat pack last night 😂😂😂😭😭
Love the show keep it up!
I had a burgundy 06 CTS-V with very similar mods to this one minus the coil overs. I got rear-ended in the rain and it was totaled about 4 months ago. Bought a blue 16 Chevy SS with a manual to replace it.
I honestly enjoyed driving/liked the V better than the SS.
I'm surprised, I figured the SS was just a somewhat better V1
@@CorbinGoodwin I thought that too until I spent some time with the SS. Admittedly, the SS does every single thing better than the V, but it doesn't have the personality. The SS has all the analog/rough around the edges of the V1 removed or engineered out.
The SS is kinda like the Snap-on tool where the Harbor Freight version would have worked just fine and the V is "this just needs a bigger hammer".
SS is kinda lame compared to the v1
I had Nitto 555's on my Chaser Tourer V - that's just the way they are (rubbery). The car was much nicer to drive when I installed some normal rubber.
Corbin absolutely nailed that outro!
When he said this was the same guy that built the RX7, I couldn’t believe it. Amazing to see where he is now.
Listen to those gm creaks and cracks
GM quality baby!
So much plastic. I thought Cadillac were supposed to be luxury...
I have an '03 Mercury Marauder and the interior is still solid. Rarely ever creaks, but there's a faint squeak probably from the suspension that it's had since I got it 7 years ago.
Im looking into getting a 2012 coupe and that the one thing I'm not looking for, all those damn creaks! I'm hoping they engineered them better and they hold together better.
Well there goes used V1 prices
They were already fucked.
They’ve been fucked up lol
Been fucked up lol
Nah, you can still scoop em for 11k or even less if you're patient
@@youngdon4490 Yep, just gotta find people who are asking reasonable prices. I just bought an 06 in great shape with 88k miles for 12.5k, just two weeks ago.
Cant wait for the rs6 avant and taycan turbo review matt.
Corbin and Zack should do One Takes together! Great review!
Corbin is such a savage!
mics on the guest, hell yeah!
LOL good opening joke Zack "...but _this time_ you want to stay with the kids..." Zing!
the pedo bear reference was not lost
Extremely minor mods brings the car up to par with today’s n/a V8’s, it’s a total keeper.
Very similar to my V, I have creative steel solid mounts, sold trans mount, short throw, stage 2 clutch and solid cradle bushings with a diff brace
Started a new beetle rally project but Everytime o see a ctsv it reminds me so much that it's the car that got me into cars think I'm gonna have to find a way to rally one
10/10 best Lyft driver I've had!
Ayyy my guy 😁
I found a 2011 CTS-V wagon for $31,000 and grabbed it. It is a great car and my mechanic said service, repairs, and upgrades are about 35% of the costs for Audis.
I bet you are super glad you made that purchase! Those things are unicorns and in todays market yoh got a steal
Suggestion: at the end reviewer should summarize good, bad and ugly in a consistent manner (more or less), thus helping the rest of us understand better. These reviews are helpful to set expectations when buying and driving. Remember to keep explaining key elements that us average drivers understand. Oh, my 99 911 996.1 has been expensive to maintain despite fab PPI by dealer and only 2 prior owners w all maintenance records. Think 80% of price over 3 years. Cheaper than a new Mustang factoring depreciation though....
Creative Steel 8.8 Ford IRS kit is not too expensive if you can build your own center section to fix diff problem. No more worries then. Love mine.
I stopped clicking on these since Matt stopped doing them but I was pleasantly surprised to see Corbin again. Probably one of my favorite car people, super funny and builds awesome stuff.
When keeping it real goes right!
since i started collecting watches i wish for wristwatch checks in these videos lol
And on the 6th day god said “let there be LS” and it was good
-mr.regular
I’m watching old one takes on a -17 day here in Wisconsin and about 3 minutes in I went on autotemptest and started looking for a first gen CTS-V
first thing ANY V1 owner should do is the creative steel 8.8 rear end and axles
Car with 2500$ suspension, 6 speed, and ls drives good
How did he say you would help reduce the steering sloppyness?
My favorite CTSV
Save the manuals
I see that DIC retention head unit solution
It's funny to watch people discover the V1. Like "oh wow this is really fun, and comfortable.". Yes. I've had my 05 since 2010. It has the rare FG2 "Nurburgring" shocks and with a set of Michelin PSS tires I find this chassis to be excellent. Compliant, but no excess body motion. Turns in quickly and will rotate controllably but will go hundreds of miles comfortably and get mid 20s. Mine has been very reliable. No issues with oil temp after I sanded two grounds like 9 years ago. Only thing is you can't do burnouts unless you do some mods so...it saves my tires.
The ride/handling balance is quite good, honestly the highway ride especially with good dampers is one of the best I've ever felt
@@CorbinGoodwin Pretty good bet they were benchmarking the E39 M5 and then put their own spin on it.
How's it running? Still amazing?
@@Woodcliff14 Actually I sold it around April of 2021.
why would you recommend no burnout without supporting mods are the diffs really that bad ?
The N54 powered 335i would give a CTS-V a run for its money.
N54 335i would give it’s owner a run for its money lol
Alex Torkelson it gets stomped on every time but the old v - ls2v1 owner.
@TheSmokingTire look as a CTS-V owner I think this is 10x better than the first V you did on the show I'll give you that. But can we pretty please have a good review of a sorted out 1st gen 06-07 V for a change? I live in Michigan otherwise I would be lining up to offer mine for an episode. Can someone in California offer a sorted out V for this good channel? Just a stock nothing out of the ordinary sorted out V with no mods or failures like we have seen in the past two videos k thx bye.
Having driven both, I definitely prefer the LS6 cars. But the LS2 cars are objectively better in every way.
So why then ?
@@tylercouture216 The LS6 is a "revier" engine. It's probably mostly the cam, so you could make the LS2 perform similarly if you wanted and make even more power. The LS6 had windows cast into the block to aid cylinder-to-cylinder breathing, but I don't know if the LS2 or 3 adopted this feature which was not on regular LS1 engines.
@@eb110americana I reallly really appreciate that info you dont even know
Brilliant intro
I have the Avant Garde m410’s on mine, the only other 6 lug option you didn’t mention
I'll have to google those!
This is one of the funniest One Take imo!
8:00 is that a clarkson reference? lol its sporty!
No fucks given rx7 was literally the reason I started watching the Chanel !!
I rode with Corbin in that car. He was fast and bold and knew the roads. And I didn't get tetanus! ZK
Had a 2005. Great car. Really great with mid-muffler removed.
I have one with headers no cats and no resonators and no mufflers and 3.5” pipes.
It sounds absurd.
This is so much cooler than corvette. Wagon would make it still better.
Like listening to two women ! Bravo!
The reason why E36 M3's are getting popular is that they are awesome to actually drive. You're connected to the road in a different way. Can easily be turned into track weapons for either track days, drifting, or just hooning around on the street. Don't get me wrong, they have issues and the interior falls apart but they are really the last //M drivers car before they became softer and bigger, with gadgets and electronics. Suspension is very similar on the E46 but still they somehow feels numb compared to the E36. The S54 in the E46 is a much better engine tho without a doubt and im going to go ahead and say the E46 looks a lot better even tho looks are subjective.
@CyberBoost Enterprises Since when does engine note have anything to do with how the car drives? I already said the have issues, subframes being one of them. Theres a reinforcement plate you can get from the dealer. They are on all M3's and regular E36's post 1995.
@CyberBoost Enterprises I love how s50s sound. Tons of induction noise when VANOS kicks in and some nice inline 6 rasp. I know it's weird, but not everything needs to sound like a Chevy smallblock.
I’m cross shopping an E36 M3 sedan with this & 330i zhp manuals have to drive them first had an E34 525i, E30 325es coupe and have a C5z
Missing having a BMW though the M50s,S50 sounds way better than the engines in E46s !
@@moiseslopez7898 Not a huge fan of how the S54 sounds personally. With the usual bolt-ons they are very raspy and tinny, in that Honda fartcan kind of way. Can be avoided with specific kinds of headers and "rasp remover pipes".
@@placeholdername3206 I'll have to dig deeper on forums instead of youtube to find anti rasp exhaust setups for e46s
All these complaints about Zack... I think he’s the man 👍
He sucks...everyone is right
It takes a great deal of practice, composure, and talent to operate a fast vehicle around turns while carrying an engaging conversation with a passenger. Zack indeed does both of these pretty well.
Researching manual sedans under 20k landed me here but these were cheaper lol last year :/
wish I could get a SS manual or V2 wagon but I’m not rich yet
I plan in putting a ls7 in my g8
@@tylercouture216 ooh my lawd thats the best engine ever! I want a G8 or an SS so bad man
Corbin!
I really like when Zack does these.
No Matt Farah to trash the car right before the owner. More of this please.
I love the v2 and v3 but that interior of the first v is Saturn quality. Do like the ls2 and that's it.
John Lukach can’t compare them man. V1 is ages older.
Never realized these cars have 6-lug wheel hubs, thats weird
Stunt road is great it’s just very short
Now we need a G8 one take again.
Or gto
@@LuckyClipsLC yes! if I lived In cali I would love to get mine on the show. GTO's are great and still pretty cheap.
Once I ls7 swap my G8 Gt I'll send one take a email
How tall are you guys?
I'm half way through. But is he on e85? Or is that from the previous owner
No E85 for him. ZK
I didn't watch the whole video but was there any mention of GM being super cheap by not upgrading the Fuel Tank OR the rear diff from the first CTS-V's?
What was the issue you know about with the fuel tank?
@@chrisreynolds2410 they never upgraded it from the V6. Same 17 gallon tank. 100 mile trip took half the tank trying to save gas... kinda.
Why does Zack always do the longest videos?
Ehat road is this it's so beautiful 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ew, what was Cadillac thinking putting 6 lug wheels?
To this day no one knows
These were really trying but interior fit and finish was just not there yet.
A nice alternative to Euro sports cars
Is that why it sounds like interior plastic creaks every time he turns?! haha
@@bhogue6391 That's the aftermarket shifter, actually. They mention it near the end of the video. I have an 06 V with 88k miles and there are no creaks or rattles.
They're not really creaky, my dad has had one since new, and the interior looks way nicer in beige. Its the perfect ride compromise stock and the ls6 revs so quickly and smoothly, it's the only car he owns that isn't modified.
Is it just me or does the passenger talk faster than Ben Shapiro? Could not make out a word.
Cool car!!!!
So what's the difference between the 06 and the 07 rear end?
There were 4 gens of diffs in between 04-07 the 1st & 2nd gen diffs came from the factory with 04-05 and were crap by all measures not reinforced enough rib-wise obviously the 1st on the 04 more than 2nd gen.
06 got a revised 3rd gen which was significantly less likely to break due to moderate to medium wheel hop.
The 4th gen was just ever so slightly improved over the 3rd. Came on some 07s but not all (my 07 V has a third gen).
The good thing is that these diffs are drop in replacement for each other and many owners got their diffs replaced under warranty with quiet a few ending up with newer gen diffs on older Vs.
No matter what gen you have though with a V1, no burnouts or 1st gear clutch drops for that car.
It's not worth the risk. I have a modified T56 with 2.66 1st gear ratio, my wheel hop at hard take offs I would say is less powerful than it was with the 2.97 1st gear ratio but still I don't fully clutch drop or do burnouts.
Doesn't fit the character of the car anyways. My car is all about twisty roads and powerful highway pulls. I did however end up adding a differential brace with a 4th mounting point for those occasions when I really want to takeoff 🤣
@@CTS-V sorry for the old reply, how do you know the difference? Have an 07 and wondering if I have a 2nd or 3rd gen diff
@@wildtigercoffee there is a tag with a part number and diff ratio on the top of diff rear right. By these part numbers you can tell which version you have.
Rev 1: # 10361308
Rev 2: # 10368780
Rev 3: # 15793756
Rev 4: # 25873498
Yeeeah. Corbin is back 🤙🏽 hate that guy ♥️
I considered the CTS-V for the V8 until I learned the rear suspension is crap, plus weak dif, and general low quality. Got an ATS 2.0T because it's the best chassis GM makes, but has an OK engine. Is a sedan with great chassis and reliable V8 asking too much?
Crysmatic the v1 has a great chassis and far superior in every way to that entry level 2.0. That car count keep up to the v1 at the track, mountains, or straight line.
I beat the snot out of my stock read dif.
Standard from factory?
ZROSTARS yup Cadillac did cool shit in the mid 2000’s
Hey I guess it's a Cali thing but you can get race cats or a CARB approved cats and/or tune it to avoid that check engine light.
The lack of elbow room for shift throws is from the center armrest having been swapped for a run of the mill CTS manual. Ended up going back to stock on mine.
Also the tire issues you eluded, stock they didn't come staggered.
I believe every time someone sets a CTS-V up for drag racing, GM shoots a chassis engineer. This car was the first Cadillac to be tested extensivly over in Europe and certainly is a turning dream. Certainly the first US go fast sedan and lighter than all the Holden imports.
That might also not be the stock rack. Some swap a stock base model rack which doesn't have an as favorable ratio. (However my daily is a GMC Sierra pickup so I'm comparison it really seems quick ratio for me.)
Took mine up Mount Washington and hope to carve some California canyons when I head back out west next year.
Definitely a few ways to solve the exhaust problem but bolting on the stock manifolds that I was given was by far the easiest. I always wondered why they changed armrests, now I know!
Interesting to hear about the rack, I don't think it's crazy slow but maybe I'll have to check mine.
He said the only thing is that the shifter buzzes but you “just crank up the horrible Bose system” 😂 As somewhat of an audiophile this made me crack up so hard! Lol because Bose is way overrated 😂 these guys are a riot!
I have a 2004 Seville I bought used, with a Bose, and it doesn't sound much better than the basic system in my old Silverado! For what that cost new it was a ripoff, but then look at the cost of any luxury car and the option(s) cost. I also have a 2005 STS V8 with a Bose and about 10 speakers and it doesn't sound much better than the Seville's 5 speaker.
Anyway, I only found out after buying the Seville and STS that the old CTS-V's were all 6 speed sticks! I kind of knew they had 'Vette motors but assumed they were auto's or a choice of manual or auto. They must be one of the very few manual only cars, esp. for sedans (!) in recent years. Crazy! I want one!
The SS nobody bought!!!
As in Chevy as then yes no one bought one
Does he actually make money giving Lyft rides with a CTS-V? The tires and fuel economy probably kills that equation...
I've made some decent money but if it's a lot of short traffic-y city rides I don't really make much
Always loved this car's performance. Hate it's reliability
Dan whats wrong with the 07’s reliability?
@@Sessions1 The rear diff couldn't handle the power was the main issue. Plus it's a gm, see Scotty Kilmer's view on that haha
Dan did you not learn anything about this video? This is an 07 with the sting diff, the one that doesn’t break. You’re referring to 04-05..
@@Sessions1 My mistake. I thought it was the 08 model year where they resolved the issue. I hadn't watched this video in a while
Dan this car only ran through 04-07 Cadillac didn’t make a V for 08
😂 funny conversation close out and video 😋
Too bad you guys didn't hit me back about my 04. It had a 408 stroker. Still, nearly the same car.
HowaShooter that’s not a factory v motor anymore it isn’t as cool.
@@Sessions1 650hp isn't cool? That's weird
HowaShooter just isn’t a V anymore, it’s swapped so yeah
@@Sessions1 it was the same blocks that came in the Vs. So maybe you are just ignorant of how GM built these things?
HowaShooter I’m not, I personally think it’s cool, they just don’t care because it’s heavily modified they want to test drive a pure v.
3:12 deal with it
Cool car! But it felt like I was listening to two whiny b#@ches. Bring Adam back ASAP.
Exotique en Europe..... Hélas..
The diff is made of glass....
That goes to e55 my good sir
Yeah it’s a good car until you need to make repairs then it’s a money pit and headache
@@jlopez1017d not really, price for parts have come down significantly and there are so many resources and for the most part they are easier to work on than domestics.
Hamza I know 2 people who got rid of their cars because of costs. I’m not sure what went wrong but they said the repairs were expensive. I really wanted one but I got scared off especially since I’m not a good mechanic I’d rather pay a professional to do the work
@@jlopez1017d well there you go. If your ok with getting your hands dirty its affordable otherwise just like any other car its gonna cost$$$
Hamza I went with a 335i I have no regrets so far
I miss Matt
Where's Matt?
Btw Corbin you tha goat
Dude, where have you been?? It's been probably 2 years since matt did this sort of one take.
Thanks my guy
Omg the mormons are at the door...
I am the 555th thumbs up.
sexy car
Damn. Those cars didn’t age well at all. Compare this to its competitors at the time and it looks like it’s out of the 80’s compared to them. Only time I see these today is around my drug dealers neighborhood
This guy drives 💩box BMW'S but he get to complain about Porsche 911.
If people were only allowed to complain about cars in the price range they could afford, the internet would be a VERY quiet place. ZK
Kid needs to learn how to drive .