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- Who needs story when an anime looks this pretty? Kenny lauderdale reviews Dragon's Heaven, a beautiful anime from the 80s that history has almost forgotten. Moebius may have never lent his art to an anime, but if watched this & told me he didn't make it I wouldn't believe you. The best Mecha anime tend to get overlooked, but this ova is one of those anime that's so beautiful to look at that it may as well not even be mecha. Moebius's art style influenced anime artists so heavily in the 1980s that for a brief time, anime like this was indistinguishable from what it was paying respect to. Makoto Kobayashi was one of those artists. If moebius made anime, this would be it. Dragons heaven also had a series of manga continued in makoto kobayashi's hyper weapon art books if you're interested in learning more. It reminds me a lot of jean giraud's work in wizard magazine which has a similiar art style.
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Old school animators deserve so much appreciation
Yeah.. Cell animation gives pure aesthetic vibea
I think alot of animators would still pu5 this much effort into the work if they were paid more lol
@@patrickbyrne5070 There's no such thing as too young. My nieces love old anime. It's far from impossible to give younger generations an appreciation for the past. People just have to share their passions genuinely instead of gatekeeping.
The fact that they had to draw them with real paint
@@patrickbyrne5070 i mean you can still watch them , its not like if your 12 you cant go watch old anime
godamn animating the amount of line textures on the mech and keeping track/consistency for every of them is one huge test of professionalism dedication and craftsmanship to this
Did not expect to see you here
@@mechzilla569 kenny is usually brought up on the /m/ board. so I kinda know his channel through there.
Probably wont happen, but I'd love to see you guys make a MH video in this style, even if it was only 15 seconds long, I'd love that.
Yea it’s pretty beautiful
Based, also can some mecha inspiration on your animation.
As a Brazilian, I can assure that this movie is 100% accurate
as a brazilian, i dont even comment in others people section.... our brazilians place is in wild amazonia!
@@fodedordegatas1081 true, I'm connected through my village's smoke signal
@@kaua7561 Connected by our newest tecnology, dial-up internet.
@@fodedordegatas1081 Nice nickname
As a Brazilian, i can assure QUE ESSE ANIME É FODA, PORRA
This type of art style makes me nostalgic for a time I wasn’t alive for.
Someone finally put it into words.
This is how I feel abt late 90s manga to early 2000s
It was a good time
Same. Modern media (namely music and anime) doesn't get as good as the hard work done by musicians and animators of old
I was
"Moebius was longtime friends with Miyazaki and even named his daughter Nausica" DAMN that's just a side detail but it hits you when you hear it.
Thanks for this, it's great!
Yeah, that was pretty deep for something mentioned so "by the way"
Gary Ghibli was the first person I thought about when I read the title of the video.
Naming your child after a famous anime character isn't really a good idea though.
I would never do that.
@@ttwiligh7 Yeh, that sort of thing just makes me cringe..
@@minicle426 Eh, I'm named after a biblical character. The bible is anime for ancient goat herders, so it don't seem so bad.
Japan's tendency to not pander towards nostalgia is both a blessing and a curse.
Because I'd love for a studio to revitalize the style of old anime for a movie or something.
No seriously. I grew up with classic animes like these in the early 2000’s bc my aunt loved them, but i HATE other anime. I just can’t pay attention to modern anime, the style doesn’t GRAB me.
@@neverxnice3577 I could be wrong but this style looks far closer to the early 1980's than to the early 2000's
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I get where you're coming from. When I first saw Osama Tezuka's art style I was like "Man, you don't see a lot of anime in that style nowadays" and wished companies would try that style again since it doesn't feel like anything you see today. Though looking back, I did notice that a lot of anime and manga being created in the era of Tezuka did have that look as well, so his was not as original, though that also might be because he did influence his style from things like Disney and Fleischer studios works. But hey, I'd love to see that style come back in a way to some anime works in the future. If Cuphead could pull off bringing back rubberhose animation, then why not anime?
no shit because NO ONE FUCKING WATCHES OLD ANIME, look as much as you pretend, these animes aren't made because they are UNPOPULAR,
when series that have old anime styles like megalobox or kaiji, no one ends up watching them
80's and 90's are a golden era of anime for me. Almost every project felt like a passion Project. The gritty atmosphere, nudity and blood was always present. Mecha and ship designs were always out of this world. Really miss this.
@Karl Art Reid wdm? Dragon ball, one piece, night city? Initial D? So many “soft” anime’s already paving the way for the genre to succeed. Plz stop the cap
Agreed. I miss all the dark adult anime I used to rent on vhs from US Manga corps back in the day. There are some ok ones here and there now, but nothing compares for me.
@@rvt_h3du gotta be just being nostalgic.
@@MMeltingButter nah, im not. The new stuff just isn't the same.
Old anime were better because nudity and blood were shown, gotcha .
I can't but respect the animators back then. No computer, no special tools, all hands. And that level of details, holy shit.
Computers don't make things any easier 😞
@@snailtrashx2 yes they do
@@kerolokerokerolo when doing frame by frame you still have to draw each individual frame and put just as much detail just because it's digital doesn't make it easier
@@snailtrashx2 oh in anime you mean. I don't know about that but I trust you. I was thinking that generally speaking, computers make our lifes much easier
@@kerolokerokerolo well you're right about computers being useful generally
The closest we’ll ever get to the mythical Moebius/Miyazaki collab that will never happen now.
Nausicaa is much closer. Or the exhibitions and books they made together.
Moebius meets, jodorowski, jodorowski meets and tell to Katsuhiro Otomo how can finish Akira, Otomo was friend with Satoshi kon, in other part, Hayao Miyazaki are friend of Hideaki Anno the otaking but dislikes the otakulture and dont like anime.
In a paralel dimension
Osamu Tezuka's colab with kubrick exist, and jodorowski Dune isnt only a doc
I dont know if tezuka and Disney meets was true.
@@montajedelespectador Tezuka and Disney meets? Sorry I'm ignorant.
@@bfrehksdhf i dont know if only was a rumor or not
P. Cox They apparently did, according to this sweet letter given to Walt Disney in the 60s. i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/852/308/803
Unlike most anime this looks like a manga in motion. Especially the robots.
Yea it looks really good. From what I can see, the reasons the robots & ships are higher detailed with pencil shading lines etc though is because unlike the flat coloured characters, they're not animated, but just "still pictures" moved across the screen.
YO! That is so god damn true
@@ncshuriken that’s something I realized watching these kind of old animes, If something was brighter than the background or the static images it’s going to be used for something, destruction, movements or anything tbh
@@elpsykoongro5379 Yeah 100%, I'm with you on that.
@@elpsykoongro5379 all old cartoons are like this, it was a revolutionary technique made by Disney in the 40s(IIRC) Scooby Doo and all the old Hanna Barbera cartoons were very big with that as well haha
I love that older, soft and fluid art style.
Hand drawn vs digital
watch megalo box the style is kinda old but the anime is very funn and it has a very great sequel
and damn expensive as well, it’s Extremely impressive
Now anime has turned into these lollipop headed women with dots for noses, making unintelligible baby noises while wearing a sexy school girl outfit
@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 like generic anime never existed lol, look up older animes and see that 80% of them all have identical characters
This anime shows what moebius's style would look like in animation. I am so grateful this anime exists not only bc of the moebius influence, but bc it's just really cool and unique. I highly doubt anyone would make something like this today. I don't think many anime fans today would appreciate it either sadly enough.
If you want more animated stuff that looks like this the check out Heavy Metal. Its based on the magazine of the same name, which moebius did a lot of art for. So it has a lot of his influence.
@@uppishcub1617 Métal Hurlant ? Is there an English speaking version of this french magazine ?
@@melancolielupine2023 yes, it goes by the name Heavy Metal in English speaking countries, and as I mentioned earlier, the English version even got a movie. ( It also had a direct to video sequel, but that one wasn't nearly as good)
I think fans of stuff like "made in abyss" or any top tier psychological ova would enjoy the art immensely. I know I would lol.
When you see the appeal of something like berserk, where maybe 60% of what makes Kentarō Miura's work so unique is his dedication to produce detailed artwork. I really think that moebius's work can be appreciated on the same level.
Not everyone is focused on speedy fight with crazy impact frame. Sometime just animating gorgeous landscape and stories can be as gorgious, and praised by the community as most recent anime does.
I'm japanese and grew up around that time. I was in love with this so some friends and I bought the tabletop game. Its long ago now so I have no idea who of my friends ended up with it though and I doubt they would still have it. However, let me know if you had anymore questions about it if somebody hasn't already answered them. I faintly remember how it was played.
Quite cool. 1988 was an interesting time for table top over state side as well and i think lodoss had it's first official restructuring of the homebrew rules it was built on into something more professional around then. I remember the Japanese players being really into class based systems with percentile dice back then, what this system along those lines? I remember seeing this anime and the scale of things and thinking rifts must have taken inspiration from it.
Woah, there was a tabletop game for it? I had no idea!
Lucky😣
Do you remember the name of it?
There's and rpg? How were the mechanics?
Moebius style scifi art is woefully underappreciated and needs a resurgence
nobody can do his style not even himself. his works are timeless classics
Morbius
@@h00db01i He's been dead for some years now... But yeah, in the last decade he greatly reduced the detail in his work, probably because he wanted to get all of his ideas out before dying.
@@ComfortAmbience the visual style of course can be replicated but not the bleak psychedelic mood of eg Incal. that's why I say not even Giraud himself could repeat such a feat, we're safe.
anime has its own masters of bleak sci-fi, namely Otomo and Nihei (edit: and Anno)
@@h00db01i the only person I can think of who approaches his style is Geof Darrow
*Me, a brazilian, watching the intro*
Kenny: Brazil is now a desert
Me: well, almost
Scary
Im in Canada and we dont have real winters anymore. It rains in Canada during winter. Its the end of the world.
Ta foda!
@@rodrigowirsch351 I don't think he's talking about covid, I think he's talking about deforestation.
@@rodrigowirsch351 Uh... yeah, whatever. What?
as a Brazilian, I feel betrayed to have never heard about this animation.
Velho eu também. Literalmente, anotei aqui e vou ver HOJE.
Why
There are lots of animations like this we all don't know of
Tf does being brazilian have to do with anything?
Oq q tem a ver o fato de tu ser br com isso?
@@bleeem ..... o filme se passa no Brasil. ele falou logo no começo do vídeo.
The animation style gives me serious 'Heavy Metal' vibes
Well Moebius was one of the early artists for Heavy Metal, so that probably explains it
The old Heavy Metal Movie looks just like this, especially the last story. It was also a pretty good movie linking together a number of unrelated heavy metal comics into a single movie. The 2nd Heavy metal movie was not as good, but watchable.
@@peterfmodel The last sequence in Heavy Metal seems to be inspired by Mobius's long-running Azark (or Azrak, there is no consistent spelling) sequences in Heavy Metal. If you liked the characters they were done by Howard Cheykin of American FLAGG, one of the best damn comics of the 90's.
Edit: 80's, meant to type 80's. How did I miss that? And Chaykin! I need more coffee.
I suspected Moebius
@@dajokahbaby1506 plus, a lot of Heavy Metal artists were influenced by Moebius.
These panels are stunning and more detailed and immersive than most anything now. Watching stuff like this just makes me miss hand-drawn animation with each passing day.
its literally an ova, a lot of them are almost movie tier
nonsense, there are simply more lines. but the design is unusual, the solution to that mistery is they simply ripped off Mœbius' artstyle. a comic book legend from france
@@h00db01i Yeah I thought this was a Moebius animation too at first.
We still produce hand drawn animation… in Japan….. drawn with our hands…
Its frustrating that the audience doesnt realize that taking advantage of today’s technology lets us work with better camera’s, better time and better quality.
It lets us explore new styles and possibilities within the realm of animation.
It is true, that style is beautiful and unique within its era, but we have to understand that that is an OVA, sold separately and most likely of 3 episodes / a movie’s length. You do not compare productions like Your name / A silent voice to whatever anime is airing this season. And that is an understatement because this season we are giving you guys a buffet of amazing productions anyway.
Please give us a break and appreciate what we do today, the effort is still all the same.
@@kassyyar97 people will watch anime then turn around and call it a kids genre. don't expect any respect from those cretins, most the audience doesn't know shit. good thing some of these idiots pay so the artists can eat
I'm in love with how this anime looks. The world looks more hostile with the gritty textures and details. I even adore how the machines also look more aged and realistic.
yes, that grittiness and texture is lacking today and is one of the things yet to be done well with current techniques
I love that too but slapping a generic anime girl head on things just stands out
It's Moebius, that's why it looks great
Them you will love Moebius
@@shawnatlast They can be done well, you just won't find it on any random anime bc doing it costs more
I love hand drawn anime. CGI never captures the magic.
So Mobuis knew both Hayao Miyazaki and Stan Lee... I honestly don't know what to say about that.
To me it is more like Hayao Miyazaki and Stan Lee knew Moebius.
Either way, that's a hell of a triad of power.
@@RexcorJ I know, a true tri force of creative giants
Just say nothing and share the awe...
I like to think all well know people had some connection to each other, like Music composers
GOD, I love that old animation style, so beautiful!
it's not merely old, it's Mœbius (Jean Giraud)
I AM THE TEMPEST
So classic
yea 100%, nowadays styles looks so bland in comparison for some reason
Me too! Retro Anime like this definitely blows the majority of this newer and recent Animated movies out of the water!
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I love this 80/90s anime aesthetic. When done right, it looks amazing.
3:16 Maybe this is kind of niche, but as a fan of neography the scripts and symbols they designed for cloaks and other detailing are really lovely too. The constraint that practicality places on writing systems means you have to express good aesthetic style in a relatively compact space; every shape and how it relates to other shapes is important and matters that much more because of that. Straddling the line between variety and consistency where characters are differentiated from each other but also clearly belong to the same script can also be a little tricky. They obviously gave it the same love and attention they gave to all of the other aspects of visual design.
Maybe it's niche but it's exactly my kind of niche as someone interested in design. Such a cool thing to point out. This is only sort of related, but there's a Ted talk where a man roasts and redesigns different flags from a design perspective and I found it so awesome, something you might wanna check out
@@yoyoyoyo-lq4jb Haha, I think I actually remember seeing part of that. I'll give it a watch :>
I think the Japanese have quite the advantage over the rest of us, regularly using four different "alphabets" or scripts; hiragana, katakana, kanji(Chinese-based) and Romanji (Western alphabet). Neography must come fairly naturally, when you're surrounded by these different systems on a daily basis.
As someone who's a fan of linguistics, I agree. Making it look like a functional langauge is no simple task. Creating characters that resemble each other but don't look too uniform or exotic is part of the difficulty with making a conlang
Hey there. How many pounds of snake oil do you think you could fit in your left lung?
We need more anime inspired by Moebius. We need more everything inspired by Moebius in general.
I agree. It's evident that the man was hugely influential, though. As seen in Akira Toriyama's work, for example.
The great director Ridley Scott made his masterpiece Blade Runner based on Moebius's art ... Scott himself is a great artist and his drawings are also very Moebius like ...
Our upstairs bathroom was inspired by Moebius. Especially the plumbing fixtures...
Moebius also inspired/developed the production design for the Fifth Element.
The video game Sable is a beautiful recent example I think
I always followed the rule that if it NEEDS a human to operate at maximum efficiency, then it's a mech. If they can work fine without any human guidance, it's a robot.
That sounds like a pretty good reasoning to me.
Technically "mech" is short for "Mechanical suit" so I would say that's pretty much the right definition
exactly what i was going to say. unless you consider a robot to be something with its own will, while a mech is merely an extension of its human host without a will of its own, then it gets complicated.
@@volcanicred9078 But then what is an android?
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 an android is a robot that emulate humans, not only in the physical aspect but meant in all the human charateristics. Instead if it's a human with mechanical parts is a cyborg. Have a good day😊
As a french man, who read Dupuis comics book all my childhood, when you named Moebius, the influence became clear as days. It's like if Moebius did an anime. It couldn't be clearer than that.
Was about to say ''this looks like a Moebius painting come to life'' and yup. Awesome to see such iconic legend in animated style. Makes you wonder how it'd look if more animes out there took inspiration from iconic painters.
You should look up panzer dragoon
yeh i actually thought it was something mobieus , but its actually anime woah
I AM THE TEMPEST
For a moment I thought you said Morbius and I imagined the painting saying " It's Morbin time..,"
Morbin time🥶
This OVA can be described in a single word: Passion.
I AM THE TEMPEST
Haven't seen the video yet. But it's looking really a lot like Moebius' work '-'
@@marcbuisson2463 MORBIUS⁉️🤨
@@ChesterFJ Mœbius XD
The french comic book writer. The guy who made Blueberry, Arzach and l'Incal. And designer of Alien, Tron, the 5th Element, and should have been one of Jodorowki's Dune.
Moebius did a manga called Icarus with Jiro Taniguchi, albeit it was never finished, so he did get very close
And also helped making Akira.
It's Icaro in English, Ikaru in Japanese for those who want to skip that step searching for it.
Voliol and in french?
@@seb8920 Icare
Moebius ma boi😌 I love his works
Kenny, I know this is two years old now, but I just want to say that I am really happy that the algorithm machine spirit brought this to me. Your passion for this anime is infectious, and your breadth and depth of knowledge surrounding this topic is valuable as it is impressive. You earned a subscriber.
This!
Praise this holy piece of machinery
The expressive ar style of the 80s and 90s is just stunning. The detail, the textures, the colours. Everything just pops, without being in your face. The attention to detail, and everything reminds me of Sony's Walkman's inner working mechanics. Though of course some modern day anime like Space Dandy and Redline ( a massively underrated) are amazing. Although I guess what you grow up with is always that more a bit special. Hopefully they will recreate. I would crowed fund it.
Oh wow someone who mentions Redline, very good!
I miss the grit. I think that's what gets me about a lot of modern stuff. It's missing a texture that old shows had
I didn’t grow up with anime like this, so I can tell you it’s not a nostalgia thing. There’s something about traditional animation that feels more… organic? The harsher line work and low film quality forces the artists to use bolder colors and shading, which I think is what gives the art its personality.
I love we gets this video about beautiful anime right after Chargeman Ken.
@@kennylauderdale_en perfectly balanced, as all things should be
i love how i watch the chargemen ken one... only to see it be added on crunchy roll. xD
@@kennylauderdale_en and i love how it took this beautiful anime to balance Chargeman Ken. Just to show how much chaos it has inflicted upon mankind lol
All good things to those who wait.
Someone should make Chargeman Ken fan art in the style of Moebius.
Some supplemental information:
- Kobayashi published multiple manga versions of Dragon’s Heaven. (I have three of them, but there may be more.) I assure you, if you haven’t read them, you are not missing out - they are little more than short stories built around mechanic design notes.
- Kobayashi designed some better known giant robots as well. Gundam ZZ, The-O (Sirroco’s mobile suit in Mobile Suit Gundam Z), Bound Dog, and Giant Robo (in the OVA), to name a few.
- Kobayashi was a prolific modeler, and showcased many of his creations (built from scratch) in modeling magazines (such as Hobby Japan) in the eighties and the nineties.
- “Brazil” in Dragon’s Heaven takes its name from the SF movie Brazil, rather than the real country.
As a brazilian i got curious around why they used the name, thank you for the info around it
Can we find these anywhere to read?
Thanks. But you forgot to add his relation with Anime Director Osamu Kobayashi. LoL
It's a shame Kobayashi's recently gone off the far-right deep end with his personal politics - it doesn't make me dislike Dragon's Heaven, but if they made a remake now I'd have to be cautious about it
@@gregorysteffensen3279 Heaven forbid someone not be a leftist cuck.
Yeah that Mobius influence is so strong that I caught it despite only having a passing familiarity with his art at best, this thing is downright PAINTERLY! What a find
it’s moebius, pronounced ‘mebius’
MORBIUS
@@dovalaynno it’s not
Ah yes, Dragon's Heaven. I remember watching a raw unsubbed version of this at my college's anime club back in the early '90s. A very large percentage of the stuff that got shown in this club was untranslated back then. Good times, good times.
can i call you grandpa?
hey GRAMPS haha
@@Ocidad you’ll get there too
@@Houd_Vast i hope so, if i live long enough by God's Will
The artstyle of this OVA is absolutely beautiful, and the mecha/robot and background designs are impressive. Thanks for recommending this anime, I'll definately check it out.
I also wish I was able to draw like that. There's so much detail in every frame, especially with the amount of work the artists must have put into the lines on the mechas and airships as well as all that crosshatching. It's amazing that this was all a passion project by the creator who even paid out of his pocket for the live action segments.
That crosshatching. Moebius really mastered that.
@@nakenmil I'm pretty sure thats stippling actually. Cross hatching would include lines that...well, actually cross each other.
If your into this sort of style, you should check out If you look up AoiWaffle0608 on DevientArt they seam to be inspired by Moebius.
@@tigerfestivals5137 That's good to know. Thank you. ^^ I want to learn this style of shading.
@@REDARROW_A_Personal Ooh, thank you so much! I will look them up.
_"If Moebius Made Anime"_
No need to speculate. There is at least 1 official Moebius anime... or "franime," if you will:
check out *"Les Maîtres du Temps"* from 1982.
René Laloux one of the best french animation directors
That's not how it works.
Anime is literally a French word to categorize French-based animation. It was adopted by the Japanese.
Nah, that's not anime
@@fredleggett923 You couldn't be more wrong. The French term is "dessin animé" which means "animated sketch", sometimes, but not that much, the word "animé" is used, for short. The term is used in France for any kind of animation, regardless or their origin, pretty much like the word アニメ is used in Japan.
Anime is the romanization of the Japanese slang, アニメ, which is the contraction of the loanword アニメーション from the English "animation" and is used mostly in English and Spanish speaking countries to directly refer to Japanese animation and sometimes, things that imitate the looks of Japanese animation (like RWBY).
If we'd follow the dumb logic of the use of the artificial American English term "anime" for everything, we'll end up with a bunch of useless loanwords just to discriminate animation by nationality. Should we call Mexican animation "caricaturas"? Should we strictly use the word "cartoon" for American animation? How would you call Masha and the Bear, Winx Club or the Boonie Bears? Simply ridiculous!
Niether the French or the Japanese use different terms for animation depending on their country of origin.
This type of hyper-real hyper -stylized 70s/80s animation style has always been a favorite of mine. All the visual fx of those days will always be near to my heart bec it's that's what I grew up with up. I didn't watch much anime but even the standard cartoons of the day could be very artistic and detailed. In the days before CGI animators did incredible work.
A lot of Saturday morning cartoons outsourced their animation work to Japanese studios. MASK, GI Joe (afaik) and Thundercats did.
Almost all of these visual effects are forms of hand drawn animation.
God it hurts knowing anime will never look this good again
I know right? i still have my hopes up tho, we still have some legendary figures around, they just need to get the right environment. Masaaki Yuasa is still alive for example, he could make it happen, if things fall in the right places and people feel like taking a risk with some good ol experimental animation.
@@Doomroar it's not the artist/director, its the producer that would determine if something like this makes a comeback.
And hand drawn animation is unprofitable at the moment.
@@ronnickels5193 That's what i meant by the right environment, however i do think the artist and director are of utmost importance, even back in the day these gems weren't exactly common.
@@Doomroar so true. What people forget is the main purpose of OVAs are to separate fans from their money.
I don't know, it looks pretty good but it's not like we don't have good looking shows anymore.
Why do I feel like this anime belongs in The Heavy Metal Movie?
Because the movie is inspird by the magazine that Moebius founded!? There is a section in there based on his comics. And then South Park had a scene based on that sections.
Now I wanna watch that movie again. That and Robot Carnival.
The ova spin off unnoficial of heavy metal are California crisis, have the locnar too.
@@ronnickels5193 watch death love and robots netflix anthology isnt the same but are good in their therms XD
The Taarna section specially. OMG, I need to watch this Anime, because Heavy Metal was my favorite movie ever since I was a kid (don't judge my parents, I knew where the tape was!)
I love Moebius' work, and I like old anime, so imagine my shock to realize I'd completely missed this entire movement in the genre!!! Ten seconds into this video I wondered, "does this anime know it is basically Moebius...?" I'm super excited to know it leans into its inspiration, and I can't wait to find more like this.
moebius is such an amazing artist. I have no idea if he worked on this, but his influence can definitely be seen
I AM THE TEMPEST
Morbius
I remember my mother bringing a copy of this back from one of her tri-yearly trips to visit our family in Japan. I was never allowed to go back after I turned 3 or so, for all sorts of idiotic reasons. But I do recall how wonderful the animation of Dragon's Heaven was, even compared to big-budget anime series of the time.
I'm sorry, that really sucks. I am very grateful to have been able to go to Japan a couple times as a kid during summer. I got to fly there alone and stay with my grandparents in yokosuka or with my cousin in Hokkaido. The last time I went was the summer between 4th and 5th grade. I'd love to go back, but it will probably never happen. Thinking back on it, I'm surprised I was able to.
@@gardensofgrief Thank you. I think it is very good that you were allowed to return on your own, even if young. From what my fellow nisei have told me, they generally got more out of their solo visits than when they were accompanied. My mother is also from Hokkaido, the family's home being in Sapporo. These days, most of my cousins live around Fukuoka and Tokyo.
I was never allowed to visit at all. I have a lot of family there, but half of them probably don't know I exist.
15 seconds in and yeah, that’s Moebius as hell.
Edit- Damn this was a treat. I’d take an entire series about those background characters.
I ask this on Kenny's videos, have you watched 'Future Boy Conan?
Took me a minute to figure out what the designs reminded me of
@@hop-skip-ouch8798 I did, where I'm from it's a cult classic. I watched it on TV as a kid in the 80s, then in VHS in the 90s.
Moebius was also planned as the lead artist for Jodorowskis Version of Dune, so that anime looks not only close to nausicaä, but even closer to what was planned as a dune movie.
Nausicaa reminded me of Dune when I watched it, so all of this comes as very little surprise.
I'm glad this channel exists. For some reason, I've never really been into the mainstream stuff. So I'm always excited to see what obscure anime you talk about next
The reason is it's trash. No need to be coy lol
"Brazil is just a desert"
well, we'll get there.
Yes let's not get despondent yet it hasn't been achieved😂
Yeah, we will :(
ta foda
No we don't, sorry.
tá foda :(
I just LOVE this art-style. As an aspiring artist myself, who uses hatching in his works, I just can't get enough of it.
The Inspiration is from "Moebius". He work with Giger in the Projekt "Dune"...awesome artwork this is. Very iconic.
I once saw an anime as a kid (2006-2009?) on tv in germany, about a self-aware red robot travelling alongside a girl and fighting other robots (one was yellow). I remember little about it, but I've been searching for it for years
You will find it eventually. I think the search engines are limited. Because there is so much info beyond that we do not know. You may want to look into the internet archives.
"Zentrix" seems to match your description.
Guren lagann? Medabots? Is it cgi or anime?
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@@voodookitten7718 Appleseed or Ghost in the shell maybe?
Instantly recognised Moebius' style just from the thumbnail. I'm not all that much into anime usually but this looks stunning.
Ooooh man! I spent almost 30 years looking for this movie... I saw it looong ago when I was around 4 years old! Never saw it again, never remembered its title, until today, feels like finding an old friend 😌😌
Old is gold
I want to see a new anime with this style I think that would be dope
The dedication to the mecha design is admirable. Making the thing in real life to understad it better is something few would dare to do, encomendable.
And i agree about the BD part, many conversions to DVD are more loyal to the color temperature and detail than the BD counterparts, un not sure why.
Probably because of the blue laser in Blu Ray hahaha.
Dragon's Heaven is just Dragon Quest and Gundum crossover. I love them both so I don't mind that.
That was aura battler dunbine.
So its more Robo from Chrono Trigger but with a cockpit?
Dragon Quest x Gundam Crossover?
So... SD Gundam Knight Monogatari?
Yes, that's a real thing. And yes, there's Zaku-Goblins.
This in SRW, when?
Also, you can easily find the anime in parts here. Watched it a couple of months ago and I agree it looks beautiful.
I second this.
Same
Part 1 isn't on here
late 80's mecha video talking about this beautiful yet lost piece of anime art. instant subscriber. thank you for bringing this content to everyone!.
holy s, jthe title alone is all the info I need to instantly make my day better! Thank you for this!
Don't know why, but the art somehow reminds me lot of old Valerian and Laureline comics I'd read way back.
Moebius created Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal which published some of Valerian in their English editions, so you aren’t far off.
Yep your'e right!
And Mobius did do the designs for the creatures and Bioweapons of the Panzer Dragoon series.
Jean-Claude Mézières (the artist of Valerian and Laureline) was a long-time friend of Moebius; it's obvious that the two influenced each other.
In 60's 70's 80's french animation scifi have René laloux, friend of moebius too
I miss animation/drawings like this, that gritty detailed look is very nostalgic..
I don't watch a ton of anime, but a bit, and a huge fan of art and animation. This looks amazing and I'm dying to see it in it's entirety for myself. First time watching your videos. Thanks for this
You miss a lot
Do you know that this was in production during the 80s stock market crash, it is lucky enough to be released
This and Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust have such beautiful visuals. Every frame is a perfect background!
I AM THE TEMPEST
@@iamthetempest1054 You sure are
This is so absolutely gorgeous. It definitely has Moebius written all over it, but it also reminds me of old video game manuals for fantasy games, which probably had similar inspirations. Thanks for sharing this gem!
As a brazillian, I do love that the first anime I see that does happen in Brazil made it exactly the same (except for the robots)
are you insane? the only arid part of brazil is a tiny region in the northeast that appeared in the past 5 years because of climate change and deforestation, and even that is big news, how can the entirety of brazil being a DESERT in an anime is EXACTLY THE SAME?
you wanna be a stray dog do it, but dont invent over what you dont know, the country suffering from literal floods as we speak, with the biggest fresh water reserve of the planet, with the biggest river by volume, with one of the biggest hydroway logistic systems of the planet, being the biggest country primarily powered by hydroeletric power, is most certainly NOT THE SAME AS A DESERT.
so quit being a fool.
My late dad was really into Mœbius and he collected lithograph prints and art books of various artists. This anime looks like a 1:1 translation of that, amazingly done. I really have to watch this.
Sounds like your dad was quite a guy mate! I love all that kind of art. Moebious, Oscar Chichoni, Simon Bisley, Chris Foss, Giger, Whelan, Elson, Hajime Sorayama etc. IMO pure masters of fantasy, sci-fi & imagination, all of em (including all the ones I don't even know about). It seems like people just dont make art like that anymore, but hopefully I've just been looking in the wrong places.
Btw, in the title its mispelled as "Mobius" when it's Moebius. But you wrote that name in the description box multiple times so I assume its just a minor error.
It's fixed now
@@kennylauderdale_en typo*
:P
@@kennylauderdale_en No problem, keep up the good work!
I had the VHS way back. It's funny that the cover of the VHS was Castle in the Sky. I remember fully expecting to be that, but for some odd reason it was Dragon's Heaven instead! (And my goodness it was such a blessing in disguise!) No wonder when I first saw this video the anime looked so familiar! I watched this many times back then and haven't seen it for years. This anime is probably the reason why I enjoy robots and mechs in the first place. Thanks for bringing me back good memories!
I played an MMO for a couple of years that was heavily inspired by Mœbius Art style. (World's Adrift R.I.P) I love it.
Makes me think humans got some more insights from studying bugs and technology adapted more of their concepts down to the rounded shapes and chitin looking surfaces.
You got me, I was thinking that aspects of this reminded me of Nausicaa... except I called it Warriors of the Wind.
Literally the only why I watch it is warriors of the wind
I don't know if you've already addressed this, but how do you know so much about these vintage anime series? Do you live in Japan? What made you want to cover these series for your channel?? Also, how long does it usually take to actually get the physical copies of the shows? Lol I have so many questions about you! Would totally make a great video idea
Maybe try hitting him up during one of his Live Q&A's. He is pretty friendly.
All I can tell you is he definitely doesn't live in Japan. But you should try checking out one of his occasional streams on the channel.
idk about him but I've seen a good number of anime he covers, you just gotta search for classic stuff, and physical copies are near impossible to find and won't have English subs mostly. Funny tho, I live in Japan now, but I don't even watch anime much anymore, I watched these in the US.
He doesn't live in JPN (iirc) - you could probably ask him on his Patreon ;)
Shaman Xeed you edited your post? Try editing one more time into actual English.
- Brazil is now a desert
Fun fact, Brazil was in deed supposed to be a desert, because it’s located between the Equator and the Tropic of Capricorn, it’s only because of the Amazonian forest that servers as a filter that it isn’t, although the hot days can get REALLY hot...
Another interesting fact is that many deserts actually fluctuate between desert and jungle. Most noteably being the desert along the Nile River, which has historically fluctuated between the two every few thousand years or so. This also means that yes, some of the depictions of ancient Egyptian culture could very well be wrong.
Its like a crossover between Artists Bilal (Exterminator 17) , Moebius ( Starwanderers) , Shirow (Appleseed) and Miyazaki (Nausicaä). Lots of french / belgian influence
I've actually seen this one! The mechanical designs are gorgeous. The clothing/armor designs are pretty rad too~
@David Lutz I watched it in parts from a channel called Kapusky, although, that was some time ago. It seems that since then, a channel called Nekomantia has uploaded it as a single video.
geez man, tears start to came out watching this, there's hardly anything like this these days anymore
Now I need to know more about "what's Michael"
Imagine Garfield except Japanese, with more charm and assassination, less existential dread and unending marketing drive.
@@jasongarrett768 that sounds awesome!!!... Now I need Kenny to do a video about it
Jason Garrett I don't know about unending marketing drive... did you see Michael's dance moves? That's the stuff of legends.
I think Dark horse did the manga both in collection and their compilation magazine.
omg it is so nice to see the inspirations behind this style. I grew up very influenced by Nausicaa's style and have tried to replicate it before in some of my works but I never knew the origins. The art style on this is super satisfying to look at too! Will definitely be giving this a watch thankyou for this video :)
"Brazil is now just a desert"
Come to the Desert
If you're down for this art style, Luka Rejec is a contemporary illustrator that has a similar/inspired art style. Besides finding his stuff all over the place online, he writes and illustrates RPGs that one could buy for the art alone.
glad to see love for something so criminally overlooked, and i’m glad you can expose more people to it. you bring up a lot of things that i really appreciate. moebius influence, the opinion on remasters making things too pristine, the fact something can be carried on it’s visuals without the story having to matter so much. i’m always happy when i see an OVA born out of nothing but love and personal passion that turns out amazing. also we need to mention how the lead girl not only has an intimate interest in robots, but also has preferences and points out the villain is exactly her type at least twice. that’s the good stuff.
80s and 90s anime was so good! Good body proportions, attention to detail and all hand draw.
Mobius is one of my favorite artists ever.
This looks incredible.
"Who needs story when an anime looks this pretty?" *nervously raises hand*
"Masters of time" the original animation of Moebius Is wonderful and the story is amazing.
Yeah, I'm not against "style over substance", as well as I'm aware of what it is. I watched the "Heavvy Metal" movies and some "nouvelle vague" ones with that in mind, and they were an enjoyable experience. Other friends of mine watched them were waiting for sublime stories, and were quite frustrated...
Actually Arzac also didnt have a very logical plot
Many say it looked more like a series of dreams and it did
@Dr. M. H. *coughs awkwardly* I liked the Battle Angel Ailita movie.
@Dr. M. H. Ayyy, glad I helped you remember something that you enjoyed.
I've watched all sorts of anime for years and years, and I've never heard of this one, not even _once_ in my life. Now I really really want to watch it, it looks like a feast for the eyes!!!
I am so freaking glad animation is finally starting to be recognized as a legitimate and respected art form. We still have a long way to go, but this level of dedication and hard work needs to be validated and I won't rest until it is.
If one person enjoys anothers' art, the work is validated.
if you like something. If it is unique, beautiful, special and or invaluable.
Keep it secret. keep it safe. Gatekeep.
bruh, animation has been recognized as art for almost 100 years now
@@gadget00 It's still stigmatized as kids' media though
@@TheFoxFromSplashMountain what?? Anime is mainstream for like, 15 years.
I love the way 80s animation looks
I haven't watched this anime since the late 80's, brings back good memories of all the amazing OVA's produced around the time.
This feels very similar to how Five Star Stories did only it was the beginning not the tail end. Also don't the badguy's robot mooks some look like Boundocs from Zeta Gundam.
Those were Kobayashi's designs. They're actually in a fair few things.
Baund Docs are international superstars. Kobayashi loves their silhouette so they pop up here and there throughout stuff he's worked on.
@@Cousin_Uli It's the other way around. Kobayashi already had that particular silhouette from his earlier portfolio as an illustrator, so he submitted it as a Mobile Suit. Fujita was the one who turned it into the Baund Doc (and came up with the transformation sequence). Same with The O. That's also why Kobayashi can use the basic silhouettes for his other works while Katoki got in trouble when he reused his Gundam designs for Banpresto's SRW Original series.
@@andrewsuryali8540 huh, I never knew about the Fujita angle. cool
I saw this anime once back in the 80s. I still remember it because of the art style and the live action part. I was always amazed by the art style as I was a fan of mobius. Really is a shame it never went further than this one film
Moebius is a legend, I really encourage you to look for more of his work. It’s crazy to see how influential he was on pop culture: Tron, Ghibli, Star Wars, video games, mangas.
What I love about him is that he was really curious and did not care about classification of art, in a period when manga and video game was badly seen in France or “just for kids”
If you're not familiar with the tabletop RPG _The Ultraviolet Grasslands & The Black City,_ you might find it interesting. Moebius was a major influence on its style.
*it's Morbin time*
The art styles reminds me of the movie “Heavy metal” without the rotoscoping
They're both inspired by the same artist, Jean Giraud [Moebius], who founded Heavy Metal magazine.
@@biffodio You beat me to it.
@@biffodio So Moebious actually created HM magazine!? Thats cool AF. HM covers also turned me onto other fave artists like Oscar Chichoni & Simon Bisley. IIRC the main character of the 2nd movie (weak compared to the 1st movie but the FAKK 2 woman seemed to be iconic to the magazine itself) was either by Bisley or Chichoni. The kid who goes back in time and becomes a huge barbarian PIMP was possibly based on some Chichoni paintings (unless it was the other way round). Sadly I never got to read any of the mags, just seen loads of the covers with amazing artwork on nearly all of them, especially the old ones.
I'm surprised Giger was never involved, knowing his style (futurist, trippy, sexual), but a couple of the "HM artists" did do some heavily Giger inspired paintings. The one with the alien women on biomechanical bikes getting rodgered from behind by little alien "easy riders" LOL but left nothing to imagination. Hajime Sorayama got on 1 cover too, just amazing artwork! Moebious seemed to hire the best artists of that culture!
@@ncshuriken Heavy Metal began as the North American translation of Métal Hurlant, the magazine Moebius co-founded in France, but it became its own thing eventually. Apart from his work being reprinted in it, I don't believe Moebius was directly involved with the American Heavy Metal magazine or the movie, though the segment at the end (big titty woman riding a lizard-bird) was very clearly based on his work. The barbarian pimp guy was Richard Corben's "Den" character, which I have to assume was an influence on Simon Bisley. The big titty woman from FAKK 2 was based on the wife of the guy who owned (currently owns, maybe?) Heavy Metal magazine, Kevin Eastman, who also co-created the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
@@biffodio Great little bit of history trivia man, an insight for sure. Yea Bisley must've done a tribute pic to Corbens character then, and what a random but appropriate (in some ways lol) origin to the FAKK 2 woman! Interesting connection to TMNT too, I never would've guessed :P
Have to say, big fan of the aesthetics of this anime, and also other media that have this level of detail in it. I really get sucked into worlds like this, they're so vibrant and just throw a lot of worldbuilding rules to the winds and just go for it. Which I have respect for.
Sadly, I have not heard of Moebius in art school(I'm from Norway and we often discussed French artists in class) so thanks for bringing this guy to light!
80's anime really is something special.
Thanks so much of this, It's truly been ages since I've last saw this anime In awhile.
Classic animator are just beyond their level. Full of dedication
I may be going insane, but didn't you already have a video on this back during your initial wave of videos?
@@kennylauderdale_en that sucks Kenny. Claimed by the owner?
@@kennylauderdale_en That sucks man. Glad you went through the effort again though, this is a worthwhile thing to keep alive.
So i wasn't crazy! good.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who remember the old video 😅. Got me confused there....
Curiously, someone reuploaded the old video week ago
How are old-school movies so much more rich , deep, and epic than their modern counter parts?! My goodness! Thank you for sharing!
The production design remind me much of Ys, the manga version by 羽衣 翔 Shou Hagoromo, came out nearly the same period, except for human characters. I don't know if that was a trend back then, or who influenced who, but the style is strikingly similar.