In Defence of GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra

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  • @joshuataylor7443
    @joshuataylor7443 9 месяцев назад +21

    Thunder cats was not made to sell toys. ruclips.net/video/ZmQA1qK8XOw/видео.htmlsi=TvNQhdLbgNjgFxSe

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +5

      I stand corrected

    • @kieronchick1663
      @kieronchick1663 9 месяцев назад +8

      It most definitely was.

    • @Youmama187
      @Youmama187 9 месяцев назад +7

      Thundercats was most definitely created to sell toys. Now the people behind the writing an animation tried their best to create an amazing story they had the same limits and expectations of having certian characters in each scene to promote toy sales.

  • @GhettoFabulousLorch
    @GhettoFabulousLorch 9 месяцев назад +57

    This video could literally have just shown Rachel Nichols as Scarlett and Sienna Miller as Baroness for ten seconds and the defense could rest.

  • @bloodytyran9245
    @bloodytyran9245 9 месяцев назад +195

    We would need someone as passionate as Stephen Sommers to do a Bionicle film.

    • @Patrick-jd1ku
      @Patrick-jd1ku 9 месяцев назад +11

      god, don't put that idea in my head when we know it can never happen

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +15

      Oh God YES!

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад

      @@Patrick-jd1ku *Worse yet, someone thinks it's a good idea and actually make it.* ugh

    • @damonullerick6572
      @damonullerick6572 9 месяцев назад +6

      Been thinking recently that Bionicle, in my own words, is, "the best anime that doesn't exist." Redesign the creatures and characters so that they looked like what they did in-universe (because what they looked like as toys vs. in-universe were two entirely separate things) rewrite some parts to punch them up, and DO IT ALL WELL, and you'd legitimately have one of the greatest stories ever put on the small screen.
      Hell, the final battle makes The Rumbling look like a joke in terms of scale. If you know, you know. :)

    • @BugsyFoga
      @BugsyFoga 9 месяцев назад +1

      And the soundtrack has to have all American rejects in it .

  • @finnmeister
    @finnmeister 9 месяцев назад +209

    The problem with Snake-Eyes in live action is that they shied away from his comicbook backstory - the fact that he wears the mask because he's horribly disfigured and doesn't talk because his vocal chords were destroyed.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад +18

      The reason why they refuse to follow his lore in current year because its cultural inappropriate according to SJW.

    • @power279
      @power279 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@boboboy8189too dark for weaklings sjw myb😂

    • @froznpyro
      @froznpyro 9 месяцев назад +39

      ​@boboboy8189 Lmao Bruh, what? 😂

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@froznpyro schizophrenia is serious

    • @mbphilipblack8993
      @mbphilipblack8993 9 месяцев назад +12

      THATS HIS BACKSTORY THAT'S MILES BETTER THAN WHAT WAS IN THE MOVIE. I WAS ALWAYS BOTHERED AS TO WHY THEY NEVER ADRESSED IT.

  • @theresidentteacher2438
    @theresidentteacher2438 9 месяцев назад +76

    I cosign this movie SIMPLY FOR Scarlett and Barroness 😁♥️

  • @ciattathompson7461
    @ciattathompson7461 9 месяцев назад +72

    That Cobra Commander reveal is sick. The rest of the movie is goofy, but those 20 seconds are golden.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +12

      JGL went hard for that

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 8 месяцев назад

      cobra commander and his stupid voice issue sounded stupid. levit is a good actor but this movie was a miss.

  • @dennyawright21
    @dennyawright21 9 месяцев назад +58

    The Baroness is the best part of this movie. For all the reasons. LOL

    • @psychodrummer1567
      @psychodrummer1567 9 месяцев назад +10

      Don't forget Scarlet.
      I certainly didn't.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад

      Stephen Sommers knew how to make girls looks Hot in every movie he direct. Meanwhile we keep getting ugly girls in blockbuster movie since 2021

  • @kahnkretefpv7594
    @kahnkretefpv7594 9 месяцев назад +15

    The Baroness was absolutely eye-catching! 😍

  • @MIGBMWLOVER
    @MIGBMWLOVER 9 месяцев назад +38

    first I forgot that this movie existed, but the cast was stellar and I remember I was excited to watch it out of nostalgia that we had 80s shows in the 90s in my country I think it was enjoyable and fun to watch.

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад

      *Nostalgia is the worst reason to experience anything.* Mostly movies, but also ex-girlfriends.

  • @SteveElOtaku
    @SteveElOtaku 9 месяцев назад +32

    I loved this movie when it came out. Still do. It's a wonderful guilty pleasure.

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 9 месяцев назад +19

    I did like the sequel better because of how clever Cobra Commander and Zartan's plan was

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад +3

      Retaliation got Major reshoots. The first scene when channing tatum and his friend died is reshoots. Studios said everybody hates test screening and forcing them to change the characters. Zartan and cobra commander is original scene, every storm shadow scene is original. But every Dwayne Johnson scene is reshoots

  • @whoisyouranime
    @whoisyouranime 9 месяцев назад +18

    Stephen Sommers has the four things I want in my movies, "darkness, fun, comedy and adventure". The Mummy and Mummy 2, Van Helsing, G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra, Odd Thomas and Deep Rising have all these elements. I can't say that any film today, in 2023, have any of that. No director these days do that, not even the MCU. Whether you think Stephen Sommers are good or bad, I still have fun watching them.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +1

      He's pretty shameless about how his films are "turn your brain off" quality, although I think they do have slightly more substance than that

    • @GhettoFabulousLorch
      @GhettoFabulousLorch 9 месяцев назад

      The MCU wishes they had movies like Stephen Sommers's catalog. Come to think of it, I wish we had another one right about now.

    • @ButchersNailsEnjoyer
      @ButchersNailsEnjoyer 9 месяцев назад +1

      Van Helsing’s one of those movies that defined my childhood. Such a fun movie and never lets off the gas from start to finish. While everyone else was obsessing over dating vampires and werewolves at the time, van helsing and blade taught me they meed to die 😂

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад +1

      MCU is what feigi want, to copy every solo movie he did based on superman 1. Meanwhile Stephen Sommers has that old B-movie from 50's style which is dumb action horror. Although many people Will angry to me but many of directors from 80's and 90's grew up with B-movies from 50's. Even alien writer based his script on 50's alien B-movie i forgot the title though😅

  • @kettchuk918
    @kettchuk918 9 месяцев назад +12

    Earnestness is what’s missing from nearly all films…hell, the makers actively not hating the film they’re making would be a start.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +6

      There's a lot of stuff being made by committee these days for sure. That always happened but having entire third acts be reshot a month before release is becoming a standard practice unfortunately

    • @kettchuk918
      @kettchuk918 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@BetterWithBob I challenge anyone to read the God butcher story (arguably the best Thor story) a dark and blood soaked tale and say Waikiki’s oeuvre shows he’s perfect for it. Waikiki declared how he hates Thor and was utterly wrong for the film because he can’t do anything other than shite humour, does a film turning Thor into a dispenser of shite humour.
      Compare that to Werewolf by night, which isn’t some great work of art, but it’s been made by people who understand and like what they’re doing and have the capacity to put their vision on screen.
      I blame the producers for their hiring policies, lack of a plan and not trusting anyone they hire to do the job they are being paid for.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад +2

      @@kettchuk918 I could not stand Thor Ragnarok and didn't even watch Love and Thunder because I just knew I wouldn't like what they'd do

  • @thew00ted
    @thew00ted 9 месяцев назад +23

    The Paris action chase scene was incredible.
    Glad someone else noticed it.

    • @franciscoancer2618
      @franciscoancer2618 8 месяцев назад

      4:23. Storm Shadow's line is my favorite part.
      When a person analyzes it they can tell that:
      It shows how smart Snake Eyes can be even though his role is just the silent ninja.
      And it shows how well Storm Shadow knows Snake Eyes despite the decades that they have been apart.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад

      Paris action chase scene is better than avengers (2012) New York action scene. Joss whedon sucks at action

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад

      @@boboboy8189 He sucks at character voice as well

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 9 месяцев назад +45

    I've personally always thought this movie was awesome and seeing this movie constantly get hate I've thought am I the one that's crazy for really liking this movie but I'm really glad to see this movie does have it's fans even if it's a small minority and also I wish Stephen Sommers woul come back and direct more movies again his movies were always fun and extremely entertaining.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +1

      Since the Brenaissance is happening perhaps that'll persuade him to return for a new Mummy/Van Helsing crossover lol

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 9 месяцев назад

      @@BetterWithBob i really hope so , that would be awesome !

    • @Reflectionmaterial
      @Reflectionmaterial 9 месяцев назад +1

      Same here I enjoyed it a ton.
      Fast pace, the power suits were fun, fascinating action and visuals.
      And Snake Eyes was amazing. He did not said a single word yet was one of the best characters

  • @simont1299
    @simont1299 9 месяцев назад +50

    You have nailed it. This movie had me feeling like I was back in my bedroom as a child having a Joe adventure with my action figures. It came though at a time when movies were critiqued way too harshly and fun was not allowed anymore and they all had to be real and grounded. The way every character got ample screen time was so well done and these days it would end up being a 3 hour movie to do that. I also don't mind Retaliation either.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +3

      It was a side effect of every movie wanting to do the Batman Begins or Dark Knight thing and get the critical acclaim that goes along with it

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад

      Retaliation has better action but the story is pretty bad

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@BetterWithBobi would said every movie want to be the dark knight post 2008 while every movie want to be avengers post 2012

  • @ngking3796
    @ngking3796 9 месяцев назад +24

    I knew the franchise was doomed when he didn’t return for the sequel 😢 I loved the cast. The script just needed to be polished and embrace the comic elements of Gi Joe

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah if they'd waited until after the strike they could have definitely polished it up

    • @matthewk4912
      @matthewk4912 9 месяцев назад +3

      Tbh I had fun with Retaliation. It carried the spirit of action figures on screen. Dumb but an awesome, entertaining action movie. And the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow scenes were great. Lady Jaye was cool too. So was Ray Stevenson as Firefly. And Jinx. Oh yeah and Bruce Willis was in it too.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@matthewk4912retaliation has better action but directing felt like something is missing. I knew they doing Major reshoots later on and realize no wonder retaliation felt something is off

    • @davidthirugnanakumar7888
      @davidthirugnanakumar7888 2 дня назад

      That's what happen when you have the director like john chu​@@boboboy8189

  • @crimsoneclipse0618
    @crimsoneclipse0618 9 месяцев назад +16

    What I really remember loving when I first watched tjis is the way they moved in thsoe power armors in Paris. It's so freaking cool and unlike how other movies would portray stuff like enhanced speed. It had so much force and momentum, it felt so powerful when they ran.

  • @elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
    @elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 9 месяцев назад +26

    I legitimately and unironically love this movie.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад

      Me too haha

    • @michaelahurt
      @michaelahurt 9 месяцев назад

      Same! It's a 'bad movie' in the absolute best way possible.

    • @thegamingprozone1941
      @thegamingprozone1941 9 месяцев назад +1

      This movie isn't even bad, tbh I enjoyed it

  • @COGjedi117
    @COGjedi117 9 месяцев назад +16

    And let's not forget the music. So adventurish and militaristic, Alan Silvestri sure knows how to invent a style suitable for movies he composes.

    • @bryanferratt6598
      @bryanferratt6598 6 месяцев назад

      Alan Silvestri always is a banger for me. Even if it's in a film sort of "lacking".

  • @Levyathyn
    @Levyathyn 9 месяцев назад +11

    The GI Joe movies were so close to being not just good, but pretty damn great. SO close. A few creative decisions here and there, maybe swapping a couple of characters around--while keeping the cast--and it really could have taken off. To me, what the movies failed the hardest to land was the Rogues Gallery, and that's an issue I took to heart since that was always my favorite part of Joe.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah probably could have benefited from more time to fine tune the script

  • @RedSplinter36
    @RedSplinter36 8 месяцев назад +8

    Casting Ray park a martial artist as snake eyes is brilliance... you cant go wrong with a pure physical actor rocking out a non-speaking non-face showing role. Two words: Darth Maul

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад +2

      Haha I might be biased and say I prefer him as Snake Eyes lol, though I respect what he brought to Darth Maul

  • @rainiwakura2430
    @rainiwakura2430 9 месяцев назад +20

    I remember hearing many bad things about it and then watching it and enjoying it a lot. As always, not everything needs to be a critically acclaimed character study a la There Will Be Blood. It was a good movie for the source material.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +2

      I heard so many bad things and wasn't necessarily surprised when I watched, but I still loved the film

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад +1

      *Could it be a teeny-tiny bit character study? You know, just for audience sympathy perhaps.* I saw this in a theater and fell asleep for the whole underwater battle. My date nudged me back to the living and assured me I didn't miss anything relevant. The writers missed a great opportunity to make a statement about war or terrorism or IDK faaamuhly.

  • @jamesabernethy7896
    @jamesabernethy7896 9 месяцев назад +11

    Great video. I only recently found your channel with your Underworld and Van Helsing videos. I watch a lot of analysis and retrospectives, your videos are well made, balanced presentation and easy to watch.

  • @angelaoyebola2781
    @angelaoyebola2781 9 месяцев назад +4

    Im Nigerian and never knew this movie wasn't adored. I watched it in high-school and loved it. Wasn't familiar with GI Joe beforehand. I also developed a huge crush on snake eyes😅

  • @AlexGreat321
    @AlexGreat321 9 месяцев назад +8

    As someone who never had any prior experiences with the GI Joe franchise ( I'm from the UK) I enjoyed it as a dumb sci-fi action comedy movie similar to Men In Black.
    I even enjoyed the second one. Although that's probably mainly a combination of The Rock, Bruce Willis and Storm Shadow's character arc

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +5

      It would be hard to put The Rock and Bruce Willis into something and not result in some form of enjoyment lol

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад +3

      *In the UK it was called **_Action Force._*

  • @Rezzatoni
    @Rezzatoni 8 месяцев назад +2

    I never played with G.I.Joe figures or read the comics for they weren't wide spread (or even available?) in Germany when I was young, but I love this film. If I were on the jury, your case would be granted ...

  • @alexnejako777
    @alexnejako777 9 месяцев назад +7

    it's a good movie and Joseph Gordon Leavitt is a good villain

  • @zemasionxoxo
    @zemasionxoxo 9 месяцев назад +3

    “that red head is really starting to piss me off” is the most iconic line in the movie and i won’t hear anything about it! she ate!!

    • @deathmetal271
      @deathmetal271 9 месяцев назад

      But it was a flyby shot that would’ve just passed by most viewers

    • @mrprotoman154
      @mrprotoman154 9 месяцев назад +1

      Haven’t watched this movie in years but I still read this in her voice. Absolutely Iconic 😂

  • @alvermette218
    @alvermette218 9 месяцев назад +8

    You know I never knew what the issue was with this film, I saw it in the theater and enjoyed it and a few months ago I saw it again and again why did people hate this so. The action was solid and the cast was pretty true to the characters. It's a fun movie not perfect but fun.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад

      Agreed!

    • @ymdw45
      @ymdw45 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed. It's a good movie.

  • @ryankwon8785
    @ryankwon8785 9 месяцев назад +6

    They nailed Cobra Commander in The Rise of Cobra and Retaliation because he is not a coward but a very powerful schemer and leader. Also, the visuals, the talks about nanomites, and other scientific endeavors give a clear reason as to how he took over MARS and transformed it into Cobra.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад

      Nicely said

    • @ryankwon8785
      @ryankwon8785 3 месяца назад

      @@BetterWithBob In Retaliation, Cobra Commander still kind of won as all the major countries lost their nuclear weapons while Cobra's military facilities are loaded with tons of advanced weapons and bunkers originally created for MARS Industries. The lost of his satellites might have set him back some decades but time does not deter Cobra. Plus, it will take months for the GI Joe to regain the foothold and strength they have.

  • @Smokedship
    @Smokedship 9 месяцев назад +3

    I loved Rise of the Cobra. Plus it was far better than the Rock-dominated Retaliation.

  • @SingularityOrbit
    @SingularityOrbit 9 месяцев назад +6

    The truly strange thing about this film is that it was fine . . . as a self-contained new franchise borrowing a few elements from G.I. Joe. The moment you call it G.I. Joe and use the character names, though, the question becomes why almost every single element is different. Why are there enhancement suits instead of, say, interpretations of literally any of the cool vehicles and equipment from the actual franchise? Why make the Baroness so different? Why not let Destro's mask be his family's eccentric way of hiding their identities? It's as though they wanted to use the name and the Snake Eyes ninja stuff, but they didn't actually want anything else. Which I have to assume is exactly what the writers wanted.

    • @haljordan777
      @haljordan777 9 месяцев назад

      You summed it up perfectly. Much better than this thirty minute video essay. BWB doesn't understand the movie or why it isn't a good G.I. Joe movie.

  • @nuanil
    @nuanil 8 месяцев назад +2

    I loved it, it was everything I wanted from a GI Joe adaptation.

  • @deadponic117
    @deadponic117 4 месяца назад +2

    knowing it's ray park inside the suit doing all the stuntwork with snake eyes is incredible, also the actor that played storm shadow was great, as well as the doctor himself playing destro.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  4 месяца назад

      I never watched Doctor Who so I pretentiously know him as the Duke of Norfolk from Elizabeth 😂

  • @jimberjamber8540
    @jimberjamber8540 9 месяцев назад +2

    I really hope that some day a studio will throw a couple hundred million at SS again and let him work his magic. He always knew how to use a budget to its maximum potential to make fun thriller/action movies that everyone can enjoy. It's a shame he hasn't written or directed anything in a decade now.

  • @shadowdramon01
    @shadowdramon01 8 месяцев назад +4

    While I dislike the fact they made Baroness a brainwashed good guy, killed one of my favorite Joes, Cover Girl, with no fanfare and made GI Joe an international operation, instead of a Real AMERICAN Hero, just because of how much the writers disliked Bush and the Iraq War, I still enjoyed this silly movie and wished that we got more of a straightforward sequel instead of Retaliation killing off Duke and writing out almost everyone else.

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 7 месяцев назад +2

      I just like to pretend that she’s some anonymous person who looks like her and not Cover Girl.

  • @NickMichalak
    @NickMichalak 9 месяцев назад +7

    The film might not be what everyone was quite expecting, but I've always enjoyed it. I even upgraded it from DVD to Blu-Ray a few years ago. The cast is pretty good, even if Tatum is a wooden here, but he REALLY seemed like he had a far better time in the sequel where he was short-lived in. If they had Cobra Commander don the classic domed mask at the end, I think it would've marked a better feeling about a lot of things here. I like how Retaliation got a lot of the aesthetics more accurate to the classic franchise iconography, but I found a lot of the film rather dull. The villains were the only ones there that felt like they were putting in a genuine, charismatic effort. Rise of Cobra felt a lot more fun, even if Sommers over relied on CGI to a fault (some scenes look blatantly like green screen sets).

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад +1

      *_G.I.Joe: The Movie_** was waaaay better.*

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +1

      Lol in a weird way I found the dodgy CGI part of the charm because it looked so plastic I was like "perfect for a movie based on toys"

    • @ymdw45
      @ymdw45 9 месяцев назад

      I don't even mind Channing Tatum being wooden--he just comes across as a working-class grunt who's legitimately like that.

    • @NickMichalak
      @NickMichalak 8 месяцев назад

      @@hulkhatepunybanner That animated movie never sat right with me. Cobra-La was just really grotesque and overly weird for me.

  • @davemac9563
    @davemac9563 2 месяца назад +1

    This movie will always have a special place in my heart. I was entering high school in 2009 and this was one of the last dumb fun action movies based on toys I liked as a kid I watched. And I remember my friends and I had fun watching it

  • @e443productions9
    @e443productions9 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think this movie is honestly quite underrated, but the sequel is definitely underrated. I honestly LOVE Retaliation but it's been ages since I've heard anyone even mention these movies.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 9 месяцев назад +5

    This movie has it ups and down, but it has one of the most underrated casts of the last twenty years, so many great actors giving fun preformances

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes indeedy

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад +1

      *Some giving "final" performances. Like where did they go after this movie?*

  • @seymssogood
    @seymssogood 3 месяца назад +2

    I really liked this movie. The Sigma Six influences were clear, and I'm glad they did that over the 80s ARAH. The ROC toyline was fantastic!

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад +1

      Yep, I got a Baroness figure for Christmas last year in fact XD

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ray Park as Snake Eyes and Lee Byung-hun as Storm Shadow was perfect casting and execution. All the good things and things they did right were both taken and amplified in the sequel. Why I think Retaliation is one of the best bits pf GI-Joe media.
    The actors in this, and the sequel *felt* like they were the characters they were playing. Destro/McCullen was greedy schemer, Dr/commander worked as both a great Cobra Commander voice and played Dr. Mindbenders normal role as an inhuman science loving psycho. Baroness was perfect, the Joes were each unique in character. I already talked about Snake and Storm. Hawk was a true leader. So on and so forth.

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 9 месяцев назад +1

    MAN, THIS FILM & RETALIATION DELIEVER SOME OF THE BEST SCENES OF STORM V SNAKE IN ALL THE FRANCHISE
    & THE BEST POTRAYAL OF COBRA COMMANDER AT THIS DATE(even better than Renegades & IDW)

  • @TeddyLove01
    @TeddyLove01 9 месяцев назад +1

    Had a great time with that movie and crazy how all the movies mentioned are my favorite films as a child

  • @estevaoM524
    @estevaoM524 9 месяцев назад +2

    TBH, i actually liked the movie the first time i saw, since the only contact i ever had with GI Joe was the Sigma 6 cartoon and i remember liking it a lot
    also fun fact, but here in Brazil the toy line was called "Comandos in Action"

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад

      GI itself was or the subtitle?

  • @PatriciaCross
    @PatriciaCross 9 месяцев назад +8

    I definitely don't hate this movie, and was even excited when the sequel came out. There are a lot of choices I found questionable; but it all worked as a whole.
    I am bitter about making Baroness a good guy. The actor is good enough in the role that I forgive the lack of accent; but she is one of the character's who is anywhere near as iconic as Snakeeyes. There are only so many things you can change about her, and making her a goodguy is one. There is a "good" baroness in the original animated series; but she lived in a parallel universe and (importantly) her being good served to show just how backwards that reality was. (Note to Joe writer; if you want to write a "good" Baroness, put her in a relationship with Steeler rather than Duke. This would impress more fans than it would upset.)
    Growing up; Baroness was probably my first sapphic awakening. This may give me a bias in terms of how she is portrayed, I'll admit that. However, I know this is a very common experience for a lot of queer female Joe fans.
    If they wanted a romance in the film and didn't want it to be Scarlet with Duke, make Tatum Flint instead and give us Lady Jay. Having Baroness snog Duke is just icky.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад +2

      Baroness is like evelyn, female villain that are iconic. Changed that and suffers the consequences

  • @ymdw45
    @ymdw45 9 месяцев назад +2

    Underrated movie with great casting! Channing Tatum is the only one who's not terrific, and he's still fine.

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 9 месяцев назад

      Joseph Gordon Levitt as Cobra Commander is still weird lol

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 9 месяцев назад +1

    I LOVE THIS MOVIE
    *I know is really flawled But you can genuinally tell there was an effort to introduce a new generation into this franchise, not mebtionig all the evdient effort put in the cinematography(that chase scene holds up really well today)*
    *& people act too harsh on it, inoffensive action film at worst*

  • @cinematicbeauty2194
    @cinematicbeauty2194 2 месяца назад +1

    I'll never get why people don't like this. I keep rewatching the movie and it's so fun to me.

  • @wayneigoe6722
    @wayneigoe6722 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lets not forget the sequel to this movie! G.I. Joe: Retaliation... I gotta say, these movies have some good scenes and weren't that bad. (and I swear I remember reading somewhere that his character in GI Joe was also supposed to be a relative to his character in The Mummy films)
    And if we were given another movie, I would give anything to see the WWIII story be adapted better. Especially focusing on the Baroness's arc in that story

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you. I enjoyed the GI Joe film as well. Sad to see this was pretty much the end of that director with big movies.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +1

      He likely took the fall for Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor as well, even though he only produced it as well

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@BetterWithBobmaking mummy in china is a huge mistakes, we all know hollywood trying to pleased china audiences with Rush hour trilogy and karate kid (2010) although i never watch that karate kid version because since when china learn karate.

  • @pushkardivakar5912
    @pushkardivakar5912 2 месяца назад +3

    I really liked the movie. It was awesome. Definitely better than retaliation.

  • @diosnelfrica590
    @diosnelfrica590 9 месяцев назад +3

    Lee Byung Hun great as always ❤

  • @evdomos
    @evdomos 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was surprised how hot Baroness was in this movie. It's the glasses.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад

      Sienna Miller has a lot of charisma. It's not just about beauty. She knows how to carry herself. She can turn on the flirty bad girl like Stardust and Alfie but then immediately be very soft and disappear into another role like Foxcatcher and American Sniper.

  • @isaacjamestea9652
    @isaacjamestea9652 9 месяцев назад +1

    I loved this movie!!! No defense needed. Loved the sequel too. Wish they made more

  • @19thunderchild
    @19thunderchild 9 месяцев назад +2

    If you haven't already you should cover another Stephan Sommers movie; Deep Rising.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +3

      I haven't seen that one but it's on my list lol

  • @torpedo8384
    @torpedo8384 8 месяцев назад +1

    Funny, Larry Hama, who created the Baroness character always envisioned her as American. Morgan Lofting the original V.A. Gave the character the accent. Changes how you read the comics doesn’t it?

  • @danielpatterson5189
    @danielpatterson5189 9 месяцев назад +1

    I liked this movie a lot actually. I do wish they didn't have the Baroness face turn though. I much preferred her as a hot femme fatale villain. Ah well.

  • @saturncrush
    @saturncrush 9 месяцев назад +3

    Okay hear me out. Channing Tatum has always been pretty (attractive) and functional, before being a thespian. I think he would have made a better Snake Eyes and we would have gotten a deeper story as a result with his character: has the war vet who was made mute during a special mission gone wrong.
    But culling thru joe lore, were they checking boxes, or pulling in the best of that lore? I enjoyed this movie to, but even I saw that sheen would wear off if a second was made, simply from not committing completely to one vision. Storm shadows character is a perfect example on double downing in a cool way. What could have been………

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад +3

      He's been miscast a lot. He's way better suited to comedy or else grittier stuff

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@BetterWithBob I concur. He is a one note actor who struck gold with comedy. That is his lane.

    • @rutgaurxi7314
      @rutgaurxi7314 9 месяцев назад +2

      He can act, most notably for me in the first Magic Mike movie, is where I noticed he really put his heart and soul into it (the rest were just for his eventual retirement fund).

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@rutgaurxi7314 The funny thing about Hollywood, is if you are allowed to stay in it long enough you can get better at the type of acting that is required. So many examples of this with. Acting is a craft and skill, unfortunately does not mean you get that break. He was passable in the beginning who eventually got better.

    • @rutgaurxi7314
      @rutgaurxi7314 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@saturncrush I'm well aware.

  • @Eric_1991
    @Eric_1991 9 месяцев назад +1

    I always had a soft spot for this movie. Maybe it was the time in my life when it came out but I remember liking it, and falling off after the intense hatred it got. I also appreciated the Brendan Fraser cameo before he basically disappeared for like 8 years. Though I don’t like Cobra Commander’s octopus helmet

  • @LovesRodents
    @LovesRodents 9 месяцев назад +1

    As someone autistically obsessed with G.I. Joe, I bear a great love for this movie. No, it wasn't exactly like the first cartoon, or the first comics series, or the later cartoons, or the later comics series... because they were all different from each other. The idea that there was "one, true version" of G.I. Joe that the movies needed to be "faithful" too is silly. Heck, the Sunbow cartoon and the Marvel comics were in production at the same time and differed drastically from each other in important ways.

  • @Triple_Aces
    @Triple_Aces 9 месяцев назад +1

    All I know is as a kid, the toys for this film were awesome.

  • @jobymanuel1353
    @jobymanuel1353 9 месяцев назад +2

    Rise of Cobra wasn't a bad movie. Retaliation on the other hand was. They thought killing Chaning's character and replacing him with the Rock was a good idea, the idiots.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад

      He says he asked to be killed off lol

    • @paultapner2769
      @paultapner2769 9 месяцев назад +1

      Trouble I had with the second one was that all the hero actors were taking it seriously, but the villains were having a whale of a time. Particularly Jonathan Price. 'Fifteen for North Korea, just to be sure.'. I decided after seeing it I wouldn't bother with any sequels. And we know how that went.

  • @hiattgrey9161
    @hiattgrey9161 8 месяцев назад +1

    This was my introduction to G.I. Joe. Same how the Michael Bay Transformers was my introduction to Transformers.

  • @manni17b
    @manni17b 8 месяцев назад

    When I saw this in theaters all I could think during the 3r act under-water part was "This is the last act of Phantom Menace, but under the ocean instead of space and the jedi have been replaced by ninjas"

  • @JcgLounge
    @JcgLounge 8 месяцев назад +1

    I never thought Rise of Cobra was a bad movie. It never was a “bad” movie. A great adaptation of G.I.Joe? Well, depends on who you ask. The film is fine and definitely a fun ride in its own right. Same with its sequel, which I think is an improvement of the first film.

  • @chasestrietzel2183
    @chasestrietzel2183 7 месяцев назад

    As somebody who never read the comics or watched the tv show, I loved the first movie. I liked the villain side more because their vehicles were awesome!

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 9 месяцев назад +2

    G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra is a great movie.

  • @shacuras8201
    @shacuras8201 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was pretty young when I saw this movie, and I loved it. Definitely not a masterpiece, but a good action movie that should not have been a career ender

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 8 месяцев назад +1

      Actually hollywood want to kick every director that not follow their ideology, you can see how many director were kicked from hollywood from 2010 - 2015. They all of have similarities, director from 80's and 90's Who love produced entertained films.
      Meanwhile hollywood start to bring new blood that can easily control to spread their ideologies

  • @Mokkari77
    @Mokkari77 9 месяцев назад +2

    I didn't like the Baroness turning out to be brainwashed.

  • @TheN1ghtwalker
    @TheN1ghtwalker 9 месяцев назад +1

    It was the first movie I saw in a theather and I love Stephen Sommers films so it takes a special place in my heart. Also it's better than majority of drivel being produced today.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 9 месяцев назад

    Storm shadow & Scarlett are my favorite characters in the movie. although, I do love me some Ray Park (Snake-Eyes), like in Star Wars, you don't hear his voice (a different person was dubbed over the parts were maul was speaking). The Baroness was also great. I actually like most of the main characters in this movie, Zartan was great too.
    one thing I found kinda lame is how Duke's best friend became Cobra Commander.

  • @FlyingGuillotine100
    @FlyingGuillotine100 9 месяцев назад +2

    this movie would have been better if it was just baroness posing for 90 minutes

  • @rokkabrave
    @rokkabrave 9 месяцев назад

    I was 13 when I watched this and I loved it... I am 28 now and I still fucking love it no matter what.

  • @krazzeeaj
    @krazzeeaj 9 месяцев назад +1

    I never understood the hate this movie got. It's not the greatest movie but it wasn't bad either. Yes, it's goofy in some spots but the whole franchise is goofy, we're talking about action figures turned cartoon turned live action. The characters were mostly solid and it was well acted. I get that people had issue with the changes to the lore, but most (not all) of them made sense. It's a silly popcorn movie, one of the last decent ones before the MCU took over everything.

  • @ikagura
    @ikagura 4 месяца назад +2

    It was corny and cheesy but this is what I expect from an action movie.
    It's just a 90's movie that was made in 2009.

  • @psychodrummer1567
    @psychodrummer1567 9 месяцев назад

    Picture this: Stephen Sommer directing Biker Mice from Mars with performance capture of Jason Statham as Throttle, Dwayne Johnson as Vinnie, Vin Diesel as Modo and Michelle Rodriguez as Carmine.

  • @nope5657
    @nope5657 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's Sommers. It's a fun, breezy, well crafted big budget action film. For that, I'm happy. I could give a shit it's somehow "not true to G.I. Joe lore" or some other nonsense nerd shit like that, lol.
    Sommers is STILL underrated in how he can craft coherent and visually appealing VFX driven spectacle. It's all obvious CGI, but it never suffers from becoming a blobby, sloppy mess of digital soup. It's all clearly staged and exciting.
    Ppl just loved to bleat about "bad cgi" but they don't know a thing about it. Everyone is so hung up on whether CGI looks as realistic as possible without ever assessing whether the CGI benefits the tone, style, and intention of a film or set piece.
    To me the creative vision behind the CGI is more important than some arbitrary realism test.

  • @poloshirtsamurai
    @poloshirtsamurai 3 месяца назад

    I am a GIJoe fan and a Stephen Sommers fan and I'm glad you made this video praising both of them.
    Only saw Deep Rising and onwards and love them but will also check out his earlier works.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  3 месяца назад

      I haven't seen Deep Rising myself (keep getting it mixed up with Event Horizon)

    • @poloshirtsamurai
      @poloshirtsamurai 3 месяца назад

      @@BetterWithBob Yeah, I think that's where his relationship with ILM started.

  • @Morfe02
    @Morfe02 2 месяца назад

    this movie has Brendan cameo and is directed by Van Helsing Mummy guy
    absolute solid 10

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  2 месяца назад +1

      Stephen Sommers is like Peter Pan. He never fails.
      ...That's a very niche reference

  • @Phoenix2312
    @Phoenix2312 9 месяцев назад +2

    I am only at 5:40 ... And while I did not grow up with GI Joe - What with being British and all, We had ACTION MAN, and later we got ACTION FORCE, which was based on the GI Joe Toys but deliberately "kennerised" to be distinct from the US Original...
    ... So there is little nostalgia for me with GI JOE, That being said, I did watch the cartoons with my children and really enjoyed it! Then came The Two Movies, And GI The Rise of Cobra, at least to me feels the weakest of the pair... (I personally preferred Retaliation) - But IT WAS REALLY FUN AND ENTERTAINING OVERALL!
    I do honestly think it is lambasted a bit too much... I am familiar with Sienna Miller's acting - But WOAH, I NEVER RECOGNISED HER AS THE BARONESS! And.. Being honest she has never been what I would consider "Hot" but DAMN DID SHE LOOK HOT AS THE BARONESS!
    Yeah, I liked it! It wasn't perfect by any means... But its was good! And given when it came out as well... And how sensitive everyone is now as they were getting then... It did teh best it could as you could not really have a Movie where there is an actual Terrorist Organisation as that's a bit too close to home!

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 месяцев назад

      Lol at one point there was talk of having Action Man appear in the movie

  • @haloguylevi
    @haloguylevi 8 месяцев назад

    I had the sigma 6 and snake eyes action figures growing up, honestly some of my favorite toys ever getting and I wish I still had them, looking at the sigma6 one it almost perfectly fits sigma from overwatch and now I want him as a skin I can play as

  • @nkosig4995
    @nkosig4995 9 месяцев назад

    you got to do a sequel cuz the snake eyes / storm shadow parts of that movie are PEAK

  • @nigeldonaldson1647
    @nigeldonaldson1647 9 месяцев назад

    G.I JOE a science fiction spy thriller but with a team, not unlike MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, but with more charisma

  • @draananor
    @draananor 7 месяцев назад

    Love the American accent on the last two words, bro. Very--well--earnest.

  •  2 месяца назад

    I love when people makes a stand and loves the unpopular things and i also enjoyed Battleship.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  2 месяца назад

      I haven't actually watched but might check it out one day lol

  • @rena4050
    @rena4050 9 месяцев назад

    The tone of this movie should be more serious like Storm Shadow character and it will be much more successful.

  • @hulkhatepunybanner
    @hulkhatepunybanner 9 месяцев назад +2

    *Let me make this clear, the live-action G.I.Joe movie series is a total failure. STOP.* The movies are a failure because it dropped the most important ingredient of the G.I.Joe cartoon series - TEAMWORK. It should've been from the very start an ensemble cast. Hollywood didn't believe a movie could be carried by a group of equals. But if you think Hollywood was right... The Avengers. 'nuff said.

  • @RobsonRoverRepair
    @RobsonRoverRepair 9 месяцев назад

    To be fair, anything that has Rachel Nichols with red hair and very tight outfits I the late 00s was an absolute sight to behold and I missed the rest of the films plot.

  • @djdedan
    @djdedan 8 месяцев назад

    Always liked this movie because of its over the top insane action sequences. So you are not alone.

  • @jacobplayer2709
    @jacobplayer2709 9 месяцев назад +1

    I liked the mouth face from the first movies snake eyes

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien9816 9 месяцев назад +1

    Some franchises should not be adapted to live action. JOe and Transformers among them. Both franchises didn't follow it's iconography and visual style. Both had colourful characters, literally and figuratively. If paramount went the animated route, it would have been less costly and less risky.

    • @deathmetal271
      @deathmetal271 9 месяцев назад +1

      But they wouldn’t have access to the pretentious crowd who feels they’re “too good for cartoons”

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 9 дней назад

    Already makes me wonder how a Stephen Sommers version of BATTLESHIP would have turned out - I wonder if it would have been better than the film we actually got... 🤔

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  9 дней назад

      Ooh that would be something
      Now I'm picturing the O'Connells playing Battleship

  • @ayxtsuki
    @ayxtsuki 5 месяцев назад +1

    Michael Bay should have been put to make G.I.Joe movie and let someone else continue Transformers. Wonder what a Transformers Stephen Sommers movie would be like. Maybe they will let Bay make him a G.I.Joe in the future.

    • @BetterWithBob
      @BetterWithBob  5 месяцев назад

      Bay's GI Joe would for sure have a lot of great practical effects

  • @jeffreygao3956
    @jeffreygao3956 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s embarrassing; I was introduced to GI Joe through this very film and it’s not faithful to the old GI Joe series at all.

  • @sabersakin3685
    @sabersakin3685 8 месяцев назад

    it may not have been lore accurate but it was an enjoyable action movie.

  • @shockwave7513
    @shockwave7513 9 месяцев назад +1

    Dude, the animated Transformers movie was released to theaters on August 8th, 1986. You keep saying it was a tv movie and it makes you sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

  • @StudSnob
    @StudSnob 8 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love this movie.
    It reminds what its like being 12, though I never saw it as a kid.
    It had fun sequences and colorful character. I like it a lot.

  • @deathmetal271
    @deathmetal271 9 месяцев назад

    13:48 which is ironic considering the actual inspiration behind Cobra Commander’s original design was that of an executioner’s hood from the Middle Ages