14+ Dodge Ram 3.0 Ecodiesel Blown Engine Teardown. Strangest and Most Difficult Teardown Yet!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- My name is Eric and I own and run a full service salvage business called Importapart located in the Saint Louis MO area. Part of our model is dismantling and selling parts from rare and niche market engines. I've torn down everything from an LS7 to a Renesis rotary engine. There are several videos to watch! Check out my playlist of engine teardowns here: • Blown Up Engine Tear D...
In this tear video, I tear into a 2014+ Dodge Ram Ecodiesel. This is a 3.0L Turbo DOHC Diesel engine that makes 240hp and 420tq. It comes in 2014-2020 Dodge Ram 1500 and some 2011+ Jeep Grand Cherokees. This is the VERY first eco diesel I've had my hands on and I learned a lot along the way. I definitely did a few things wrong but if this teardown proves profitable I'll be seeking more and I'll know for next time. Im not sure what caused this failure, whether it was poor maintenance, or some sort of defect like improper tolerances. Either way, this teardown whooped me pretty good. Its a lot more complicated than any of the other engines I've town down recently, and it took me twice as long. I've done my best to show the most important parts.
If you have any insight into why this type of failure would happen, please let me know. Also, if there are engines you'd like to see torn down, let me know as well!
If you'd like to buy parts from this engine or other engines I've town down, please email us at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
Thanks for watching!
-Eric
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The hammer flying and the door skin falling had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The hammer flying, that was Thor calling his hammer back.
Gotta watch out where your Tonya Harding goes flying, might break someone's leg. Well I'll be dipped. 🤣
Creepy as fuck .
Every time you said "That's interesting"... my mind translated it to "What idiots designed this?"
That's just his polite way of saying the same thing XD
The thing is this engine is not new to europe and they didnt have this kind of problems before.
The real question is what was changed to the american version that made it so bad.
Lol JUNK!
@@Se2n67g9r replacing certain things with cheaper parts to boost profits and crappy quality control
Renault.
Thank you for throwing the mallet and letting the rest of us feel better. I can't count the number of times the mallet went further than the part. Love the content, love the style, keep up the awesome work sir!
The egr system on these engines put excessive soot in the oil, which plugs up the main oil galley, causing the main bearings to starve of oil, the solution is to delete the egr valve, or reprogram the ecm. The gen3 eco diesel, 2019+ takes clean exhaust gas post dpf for the egr, which has no soot in it, which completely eliminates this problem
That’s if you don’t change the oil
Good luck getting one that isn't in the shop more then on the road lol. Chrysler finally decided to discontinue this piece of junk because how many of them end up in the shop.
@@JrSpitty i have 85000 miles on my 2020 ecodiesel and it hasn’t had a single check engine light, and 75% of those miles are pulling a 13000lb gooseneck car hauler. the first generation had a lot of issues with carbon contamination from the egr, causing spun bearings, but the current engines are dead reliable.
Yeah I'm sure that magically fixed all the issues. Haha
Deleted the egr on my 2014 ecodiesel, has 170k and still running strong
Interesting indeed!! Two things taken together suggest a possible explanation. EGR cooler failure (signs of coolant on passenger side head intake valves and glow plugs) followed by pan clean out (excessive RTV on pan cover) to remove contaminated oil. Not that blogs are a reflection of reality, but many of the spun bearing report follow a coolant in oil contamination event. So EGR cooler goes, coolant thru intakes to pan, contaminated oil on mains (and cam bearing?), clean out, eventual main bearing failure after lubrication failure scores them. Big drag owner didn’t sign up to (EGR cooler failure). Not sure there’s a lot of hope once oil has been contaminated for any period of time.
Came for the engine tear downs, subscribed after the “Setting yourself up for that’s what she said”. Stay awesome dude
Had a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel.. Started great even when cold. Ran great. Got great mileage. Pulled our camper beyond well. Had zero problems.
It's biggest shortcoming was the cooling system. You had to watch the temps when towing. If you got near 70 mph they'd start climbing. Not a huge deal but you really had to watch it. Ram put an anemic cooling system on them.
I sold it just thinking I'd have problems eventually that I never really had.
No real complaints with ownership I guess.
I always ran Rotella in it though and never chipped nor modded it.
"...not trying to say it's a terrible engine..."
*door falls off*
Guess that's the car equivalent to dropping the mic
That HAD to be scripted, just too well timed for it not to be!
That was the insulted engine's ghost reply.
The mighty red 'Vette has spoken!
I love that Milwaukee mid torque tool. You beat on it. & just comes back for more. You should get some sponsorship from Milwaukee. Anyone watching your videos will be mighty impressed (link in description!). Love the tear downs & commentary. Cheers from NZ 🤙🤙🤙
What do you prefer m12 or m18?
What the difference? Which one is better?
@@PoliticalGangster both. They each serve a purpose. M12 ratchet - also used in video (old style). But the mid torque m18 convinced me to swap from dewalt to Milwaukee. Buzzes off all my lug nuts. I still have the big m18 ugger dugga for crank bolts etc.
I use my m12 3/8 stubby on almost anything.
Precision transmission made a big thing about them on every video, then suddenly they vanished from the vids to turn up a week later blacked out and no mention was ever made of them again. Either YT or Milwaukee told Richard to stop
@@rtechlab6254 ohhh wonder Why?
The original FCA spec on my 15 was 0-30 wt. That was changed mid year. 5-30 wt. At 60k the engine spun at least 1 main, you could move the crank up and down. FCA sent a engine in 2 weeks and next day wanted it back??? Long story short, 3 months later I had my truck back with a complete new engine. And I mean complete down to the engine cover. Covered by warranty. N/C, NADA, NO$$$
Triple square are designed for robotic assembly. They hold to a magnetic bit the most reliably.
I always wanted to know why some car companies needed multiple ways to screw things together.
Well don’t they know that robots don’t repair them? 🤷♂️
@@I_Do_Cars Back when I was a little child, I dreamed of a car that had an auto repair robot inside. I'm pretty sure I dreamed this because mom bought a 1985 Nissan Maxima when I was little, and that car often left us stranded. Only the engine and robotic voice chip were reliable.
@@skylinefever It was not a robotic voice chip, but a small hard plastic record and stylus. Just like an LP record player but much smaller. I kid you not.
@@matthewq4b At least Nissan's tiny record-player had a pleasant female voice with a Japanese accent. Chrysler used an unpleasant, gruff male voice to recite the warnings!
Excellent Video, I have an 2016 eco diesel it works just fine so far lol
I work at a yard and when a harness is junk i cut it off but leave the connectors for corrosion protection because they can sit around for a long time before being sold
Content request please:
Whenever you pull EGR equipment off diesel engines please take a moment to examine pipes, ports and most importantly, intakes for soot buildup.
This will assist viewers in assessing potential issues with their diesel engines.
(thinking of the "(in)famous" volkswagen 1.9 diesel EGR setup completely plugging the intake to the point where the engine will no longer run....)
Thanks,
Ah, Ecodiesels, the bane of the existence of FCA service departments across the world.
This isnt even a "rare" failure. Rod bearings are poorly designed and lubricated, one goes out, locks up the engine and destroys the bottom end.
There are like 5 locked up engines im the back of the shop with exactly the same problem
Same as the 3.6L, rod bearings spin from lack of fluid changes. Especially on diesels, the carbon is killer and abrasive as hell.
Exactly. Name a single RELIABLE Italian designed vehicle.........there isn't one. Now Chrysler has the French involved. Oh Lord have mercy on the poor line techs that have to fix the upcoming garbage soon to hit showrooms
@@sargepent9815 Clothes and motorcycles should be Italian. That’s it!
Gelato, wine, prosciutto and cheese. What time is dinner?🍷🍽
@@paintup46 yet the Japanese seem to be building more reliable, great performing; and affordable motorcycles for decades now.
The first gen of the Fiat Chrysler diesel engines were apparently a clusterf*ck in general, hahaha. Excited for this.
First gen fiat 5.7s had a bad rep for flattening spots on the camshaft and spinning bearings.I forget what caused it I think it was cheap parts
The crankshaft itself is the problem. They flex under any kind of torque loading, like too low gear ratios, lugging. When geared for highers revs, they are great engines.
Love these educational videos man 👌🏻 definitely been watching for a good while now and going to be watching many more 😁
VM Motori bosses: How much engineering is going into this 3.0 engine?
VM Motori engineers: Yes.
Bosses: Excellent. That means it'll last a long time, right?
Engineers: ...
10:08 the ol reliable pull really hard tool never fails
Would love to see a vr6 if you ever get one in!
“Well there’s the way I did it and There’s a right way to do it , and I’m sure those are different ways “ truly words to live by
Happy Gilmore at it again!!!
Tap tap taparoo
I bought a Dodge Ram new in 2004 and drove it for 12 years. I drive a Tundra now. Only downside is all the tools I acquired over those 12 years now have abandonment issues...just sitting in the toolbox all alone with no one to talk to.
26:00 Pew pew lasers! 😄🤘
Awesome tear down video. I have a 2021 eco diesel, so saving this.
All our tips are complete. 😁👍
Loved the vid. Nice job, "its still very stiff, that's what she said" LOL
VM Motori. Prolly done when Roger Penske was tied in with DaimlerChrysler. I worked on this (maybe) engine with DDC and Chrysler-DaimlerChrysler in the Base Engine group.
I’d be interested to see you tear down the OM642 Merc diesel from the WK (and others)
it’s just a mercedes
@@RDC_Autosports merc diesels especially the older ones are known for their amazing reliability and robustness. The Mercedes OM602 and 617 can reach a million miles with proper care
As the engine came apart, it looked robust, but no matter how good the engine, if the oil isn't changed on time/ wrong oil used, especially in a diesel, gonna be trouble sooner or later.
I think I remember somewhere about this engine actually being a GM Cadillac build for Maserati or vice versa when GM had stake in them, then sold stake to Fiat where they pretty much just inherited it and considered using the engine in other applications, but it just happened to match the criteria for the Ram line without all the incurred engineering costs.
So glad that I opted for the 5.7 hemi.
"So much RTV" I think that may be the reason they engine is shot. The RTV probably got in the oil.
Yeah, I can't figure out why anybody would've taken the lower pan off.
Have to agree with you about the RTV in the oil. Probably made it through the oil pump, clogged the filter, filter goes into by-pass and suddenly the oil galleries are plugged. What a$$ would do such a thing?
@@davidlibby5430 a dumb one. Sigh
well, it’s a chrysler motor. something catastrophic was bound to happen eventually
Besides the oiling issue, I’ll bet the fact that some people actually thought this was a real diesel and could do real diesel things, might have been an issue.....
I have this truck and it tows my 5000lb trailer fine and gets way better gas mileage than gas trucks Soo.....
@@philliprader6298 Probably doesnt burn a drop of gas does it?
@@leslake1979 not sure what you mean. Just saying I really like the truck and has done well so far. Only have 40k on it right now though.
Doesn't use gas because the truck uses diesel.
other way around. people put around town and they get clogged up. its work engines. add to this wrong oil and too long betwen oil changes
I have one of these engines from a grand Cherokee that i dround i always planned to pull apart. Not sure i can be bothered now
Bought a new 15 eco Diesel and the engine went south at ~64K miles, it was still under factory warranty and at the time there were I think 60ish engines on back order so that should tell you something. There is a pretty notorious history on these for bearing issues, some say it was an issue with improper torqued fasteners at the factory. IMO it is just a poorly designed/manufactured engine. So many problems with them it is crazy.
designed for european diesel and oil probably. add to this people are going too long between oil changes
My goodness. Glad I down own a EcoDiesel. What a mess. Imagine breaking down in some place that is way in the middle of nowhere with a family.
Yair videos are always entertaining, Eric, and I mean that in a very positive way. 👍
Now, we want to see you put it back together lol
OMG this makes me love my 4BT, It's loud and heavy but at least it's relatively easy to work on.
I really like all the different engines that you tear down that's very interesting keep up the good work
I'm glad you are not the one to put back up again. Imagine the trouble of finding what bolt or nut fits where. It would be a lot. How long did it take you to take it apart? I don't know the full extent of the damage, but I think new bearings, crankshaft (make-over if it is possible), new cylinder sleeves, and a thorough check on the lubrication system would be just the start to get it out of its certain grave.
This is due to the soot being pumped back into the engine and plugging up the oil holes to lube the lower rings. Take the dpf and the egr system out ASAP.
When an engine is designed for passenger car usage then repurposed for light duty trucks, this is the result. The main bearings are way undersized for the load / application, a small car like say a Cadillac CTS (the initial intent) would be a good use case for the GEN 2 ecodiesel. With that being said, the GEN 3 variant of this engine DOES have some provisions added to prevent this exact failure and so far, has proven successful.
My guess would be bad oil lubrication. The fact that every main bearing was spun indicates to me that the thrust bearing failed the crank walked, eventually it cocked, and seized the entire crank assembly in one shot. Catastrophic for sure. Awesome vid tho I enjoy all of your content.
I love triple square.
Why don't you like them. I haven't taken off thousands like you I'm sure but my tools always fit snug and I have never came close to wiping one out.
The hammer throw is epic!
I just started watching your vids, and I like your colorful running commentary which can contribute immensely to the visual content. More, if you please.
I can make about one teardown video a week. I may do a bunch in a row as I’m way behind on engines to teardown!
Idk why but this gave me flashbacks to before I stopped working on 5.3 Tritons.
You must have the ultimate bolt bucket!
Great video! Love my ecodiesel but it is intimidating.
Gen 1 Neon 2.0 uses a modular iron block like that eco diesel. Which is super overkill for an economy engine
Watching this made me think about the Mercedes OM642 engine with all the things you have to remove to get to anything.
GM also had a part in this engine design.
Btm end of block design looks solid, but they keep having main bearing issues...must be an oiling design issue. Sad the manufacturer allows this and doesn’t redesign the oiling system
This nightmare brought to you by Fiat-Chrysler.
I knew what was wrong with it from the beginning. It's an FCA motor 🤣
That google-fi commercial is the reason I will never purchase google-fi.
Why Dodge doesn’t contract Cummins to build them a decent diesel V6 amazes me? They use the straight 6 Cummins in the 2500 & 3500 lines? With prices out of the roof anyway, what difference would it make?
when i worked at chrysler every tech pulled the cab to do that turbo
Inboard exhaust is starting to make a lot of sense on these turbos.
i had a friend that had an Ecodiesel and it ate the mains at 65000 miles. the early motors had small journals which were their week spots. about 10k to swap in a new motor.
"Save some RTV for the rest of us" LOL
thought about buying one of these for light duty and commute. nah im good ill just stick with the 5.7 ive never had any issues with Dodge V8. i miss my 318 ci manual trans Dakota 4x4
You should do a teardown on a 2.8 duramax and a 3.5 ecoboost
I had the opportunity to buy a used 2016 Grand Cherokee with this engine. I looked under the hood and saw all of the emissions BS. Glad I walked away. That thing looks like an absolute nightmare/ money pit to work on.
6:17.. lolol... A little Yeshiva humor
Wild guess before watching the video; the water pump gave up the ghost or leaked all the coolant, I see those issues all the time 😐
The company president of the bolt manufacturer retired to his new mega-yacht after supplying fasteners for that engine!!
I work at a scrap yard. It's quicker to cut the harness off than to unplug it. Maybe that's why she's chopped up? 🤔
You must have an impressive bolt and fastener collection if save them all from each tear down.
When I’m working on something of my own, I have all the hardware you could imagine in any quantity. It saves tons of time and money.
The main bearings/saddles appear to be too small. Looks like the engineers traded robustness for a more fuel efficient design and came up short. Wonder if the new Eco Diesels have the same bottom end?
Love your comment about Ford was in on the assembly with all the different fasteners. I have always said ford Is owned by Snap On tool.
I do appreciate this video and I like diesel cars and trucks . NOW I know to avoid this at all cost . The savings in fuel I don't think will ever make up for this carnage .
110k My engine is great, had GDE tuning at 800 miles though.
How about a Radial aircraft engine teardown... that would be something special...
All I can say is WOW!
Hell I just rebuilt 3 engines during this video, probably made a shit ton more money, that's economically better in my pocket
Tripple square bolts! Sheesh!
Probably that excess rtv got in the oiling system and caused this motor to seize
If Adam Sandler had a little brother who's great at tearing down engines....
Your gonna love the sound of this....Pew pew pew... pew pew pew.. pew..
One minute in. Oh the 3.0 ecodiesel, thats locked up. 5 Bucks in a snapped crank. Gotta wait at least 15 minutes after putting oil in em or youll snap the crank says the tsb(i think it was). Will edit with end response.
Respone. OK so its not a snapped crank. But it sure does look it was starved of oil. 'hands you a $5'
I’m so happy(not) I get to work on these especially with how they designed it. Egr recall super easy as well
The I.P looks a lot easier than the vp 44 lol
3:30 😂😂😂😂😂 one of everything
I thought I was rhe only guy who said "jeez louise".
Loving this channel! It must be a man thang! Keep on keeping on!
Proper Italian design.. with matching lifetime
The first thing I am doing tomorrow morning is checking my oil level and colour.
Nice Esprit can you show us more of that car PLZ.
There’s a few videos of it, more coming soon!
I think the 3 tubes of RTV might have something to do with it. Did anyone notice the EXTRA RTV squeezed from the lower pan into it?
Chrysler should have had Cummins come up with an engine for that application
I drove big rigs for 12 years and was a fleet manager for 6. I hate diesels.
Geezzzz looks like the engineers on this engine say “ F@@@@k you good luck doing anything on this engine”
You're new to Italian "engineering", I see. Maybe French stuff is worse, but barely.
Still easier than a powerstroke to pull the turbo😂
These engines were originally using lightweight oil ( 5-30syn ) and then around 2016 a change order came from headquarters to use only 5-40 syn oil. The main bearings were failing due to inadequate oil film thickness during low RPM /high load events. The EGR also contaminates the oil with soot compounding the oil problem.
The vid was very informative and shows how complex the stuff bolted onto core engine is.....Thanks I really liked it!
I was just going to clarify things but you did it perfectly. Great engines, just used correct oil.
OKKKKKKK ..... 0W20 here in europe, for more and more engine .... i can feel the flames of hell coming
@@THESHADOW97139 0w20? Wow. I live in the desert where the heat really puts a stress on engines and transmissions. 0w20 is so thin it might not make it much after warm up and God forbid you got caught in stop and go traffic. I run 10w40 in my old jeep and it seems to do well with 20w50 during the summer heat. The old 4 liter has 165000+ miles on it and still going strong. It doesn't burn oil, but it has the typical 4 liter oil leaks. Be safe.
@@Big.Ron1 Newer vehicles have smaller clearances. This requires thinner oil.
Couple that with injection pump dilution and bingo
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Playing 'what seized the engine?' Is my favorite game to play.
Faulty oil pump ?
If I had to guess, some of that (excessive amount of) RTV came off and got sucked up into the oil pump and then clogged some of the oil passages to the crank, preventing those bearings for getting the oil they need effectively starving them of oil and, well catastrophic failure ensued. But that would be my guess. Very cool tear-down.
@@lewisvacek1976 It could be an RTV plugging problem in this case but there have been several similar failures that were caused by carbon sludge build-up in the oil galleries that caused starvation of the bottom end. See this video for example: ruclips.net/video/4F_8M8uTVhE/видео.html
As long as it’s someone else’s engine
While playing "what seized MY engine" is very much opposite
Common failure for this engine. There's a recall. The fix - more frequent oil changes.
Yep! It’s all the carbon issue of rebreathing exhaust
And 5w40 T6
@@Sicktrickintuner yeppers every EGR diesel engine I come across seems to get blacker oil quicker. and if someone put a tuner on it? yeah even worse.. esp if its an EPA compliant tuner (read that as non-EGR Delete).. heavy fueling results in essentially the engine eating its own coal...
Curious, these issues don’t happen with a 3 L Mercedes engine from the ML 320 diesel.
@@Ont785 Mercedes diesels (including the 3L) had more of an issue with the "Black Death"-where leaking injector seals would cause a nasty buildup of carbon around the injectors. If it gets too bad it can become a real hassle to deal with.