RHS Salamis (NB) - Guide 067
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- The battleship Salamis of the Greek Navy is today's subject.
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At the end of the day, historical circumstances spared the Greek navy from the huge cost of up-keeping a weapon of deterrence, that wasnt really needed. Averof and the two Mississippis got a second lease of life as coastal defence ships. Averof might never have survived to our day, if Salamis was delivered.
It's very questionable if 3 pre dreadnoughts are cheaper than one small super dreadnought
@@neniAAinen True. Certainly as far as manpower is concerned. But as Kilkis and Lemnos were gradually phased out after the mid 1930s because they were considered redundant for a deterrence against the Turkish navy, a small super dreadnought would been seen the same.
@@kapasvonkapas Then why did the Turks keep Yayuz?
@@kapasvonkapas But fueling and manning the thing long term was not free, especially given it was faster. And the German crew went home after WW1 I'm assuming, Ottomans still need to crew the thing. And if one heavy unit is even close to the same price the Salamis is a way better deal than the 2 barely semi dreadnoughts and the armored cruiser. Salamis was a much better counter to the Yayuz than the semi dreadnoughts and Avarof. And Yayuz was Turkey's only heavy unit as a result of a lot of circumstances. Lots of minor navy maintained more heavy units.
@@commodorezero I'm still not sure what is your question exactly.
In the Hearts of Iron 4 alternate history mod Kaiserreich, where Germany wins WWI, the Salamis is completed by imperial Germany post war, and is eventually bought by a restored Qing Empire (which the Germans restore after an intervention in China in 1926), and turned into the flagship of the Qing navy, the battleship Wuwei
They also buy some older pre-dreads at the same time for a bargain price! I designed the new navies around the world as part of the naval rework and the Qing was about the only home I could find or Salamis.
New Pan Asian ship(pretty much the same thing as the dds, take a existing dd from another nation change name and say it is a new ship)
Nerds
Why did they call it dreadnought in chinese?
@@Rangeragewhy not Greece?
Suddenly I have the urge to go make a sandwich.
Please do a video on the US Cost Guard Treasury class cutters (Campbell, Spencer, Duane, Bibb, Hamilton & Taney) Launched in 1936, some of them served for over half century through the Vietnam war. Ship for ship they were also the most successful ASW class in the US navy.
Was America the ONLY country capable of producing naval cannons in the early 1900s?? How many times did we hear that "the ship was built in country A or country B, but the guns were built in America"? It was an ongoing theme in this video!
Other countries could build guns, but the best guns were American.
@@willyjimmy8881 They were most definitely not. Not yet.
They were cheaper to get than british/german ones, though.
Will we ever get a breakdown of her performance verse the HMAS Havarti and HMCS Rye?
What about the guns planned for the Mackensen class Battlecruisers? Couldn't those have been used?
I have since found out that the turrets and their barbettes for the German guns were considerably larger than the US guns. Apparently it would have required a major alteration to fit German (Krupp) guns and turrets to the ship.
another nice video. do you think Drachinifel what design was better seakeeping abilities? the first with 3 turrets or the second? even with the first they were objections from the greek navy officers and the britain navy mission on greek navy that the ship was too small on the first design! the only reason they were wanted to make the battleship small as possible was cost, they feel they could not obtain the neccessary founds the make it a full super dreadnought ship.
The first one was theoretically better for balance but being so small would probably still have had issues. The larger designhad more displacement to absorb motion so overall would have been better in rough seas despite the greater top-weight.
What a great question.
Any chance you could do a video on the R class or HMS Royal Oak?
Joe Dunlea sure
Drachinifel thank you!! Your videos are great by the way!
Another super upload can't wait to see the others listed
Top job onice again
Very nicely done. Interesting and plenty of ship-porn.
Did I miss something? The video was entirely about a ship that, in the end, wasn't built? I thought there was a Salamis, sunk by German planes in WWII.
I guess you mean RHS Kilkis (formally known as USS Mississippi) sunk on April the 23rd by Stukas in Salamis Naval Base?
@@kaymeinhold
Yep. I knew I had seen a picture of it sunk in port, without remembering the name. Went back to my good old fashioned hard cover sources, and there it was. I guess you know your naval history.
There have been many Greek ships called Salamis. Heck we've even made a whole class of ships called the Salamis-class
This warship design looks better without 5th turret in the mid section between the 2 funnel
There's no 5th turret, those are lifeboats
Amusingly, the pencil sketch of the ship in its imagined German guise is actually Lützow. I fixed this on the Wiki article more than two years ago, but somehow Drachinifel missed the boat on that one.
You are correct, the picture I had labelled as Salamis was one I had saved from years ago and forgotten exactly where it had come from. Will correct at some point when I upgrade the voice-over.
@@Drachinifel You got it from Wikipedia (assuming you didn't get it from the same place I did) - I had uploaded the image there several years ago without looking at it closely enough - it turned out that the journal I found it in had mislabeled the images. Somebody else on Wiki noticed the images weren't right a few years back, and we got them sorted out.
The Salamis should be finished by UC0070, with... More than a few upgrades.
...and "will be jumping on White Base"
Top ces vidéos sur les warship . Très intéressantes et très complètes. Dommage qu’il n’y a pas de sous-titres en français.😀
Do a video with the Greek destroyer Velos
finnish submarines.... with deepcharges
poor Greece :( they had to fight Islam all on their own.
Weedus first we in nato because we try to modernise and we succeded second turkey arms extreme fast its like burning ball thats because islam isint a fact
I think you should look at pre-WW1 history in the Balkans.
USS Nevada the only BB to get underway at Pearl Harbor in WW 2 what ever happened to her
Had a pretty decent war, survived a couple of atomic bomb blasts, then Iowa failed to sink her as a target so she was ultimately put down by multiple aerial attacks.
What are the cylindrical objects along the hull?
They could be mountings for anti-torpedo netting, but I'm not sure.
If you mean the diagonal tubes going along the hull on the sketch image, they're the booms for the anti-torpedo nets. When the ship is stationary (such as at anchor) the booms are swung out and nets hung from them to catch any torpedoes before they can impact the ship. They were surprisingly effective, but they couldn't be used while underway because the nets could get caught in the ship's propeller shafts, and torpedoes would start to incorporate special spinning blades to cut through the nets.
Thought it would be a salami sub...
I'll see myself out
I know boats .
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Wtf. The ship that was built but not actually finished. And so it never had a crew so it never sailed or whatever. The battleship that was never a battleship.
Queen Elizabeth class vs salamis
QE would've annihilated them lmao
I wondered what happened to some of our first gen BB's. Mississippi and Idaho went to Greece. Don't know who got the worst of that deal, the BB's or the Greeks. Great videos, keep them coming!
both were sunk by german bombers in 41 i believe.
The Greeks, despite being a 3rd rate navy, actually kept very good care of their name and performed the required maintenance. The same cannot be said of the Ottomans.
The BBs the Greeks bought weren't very good for US requirements due to their short range and poor rough-weather handling.
Thing is, the Mediterranean isn't very big, and is (mostly) quite calm in comparison to the Atlantic Ocean which feeds it. So the fact they can't go very far isn't an issue when you'd be hard pressed to go that far because the Mediterranean isn't big, and sucking in rough weather wasn't an issue when rough weather wasn't going to be such a big issue in a place where rough weather isn't as rough.