Working "Lost in Space" Analog Computer Replica!
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2016
- Replica prop builder Brian Mix is obsessed with the 60s sci-fi show Lost in Space, and has built a working analog replica of the computer on board the Jupiter 2 spaceship. He explains how the prop was sourced from a real Burroughs B205 computer, which was also the same one used in the Adam west Batman show!
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I'm always impressed by the insane dedication of these RPF guy, able to reproduce movie props to the most minute details and of their knowledge of the original props history.
Kudos Brian Mix, it's a hell of a prop !
Imagine having a complete Jupiter 2 replica in your backyard where you could get together with friends to watch sports on a widescreen tv.... Jut chillin' out in the Jupiter 2.
@@jdastro What a thought! When I was 13 I got into my dad's woodworking tools and his supply of 2X4s and plywood and built myself a section of the Star Trek Enterprise Bridge! I built it starting at Scotty's engineering station, then the turbo-lift, communications station and finally Spock's Science Station. (my FAV) And of course the helm and the Captain's chair. Wired it up with Christmas lights and as many switches and things as close to ST original as I could find. End result? I went out there to piddle with it after a good rain and shocked the piss outta myself when I threw a certain switch that was soaked, I guess. That and my dad's growing ire at my 'waste' of his building materials! C'man dad! It's the ENTERPRISE!! He being a Cajun born in 1921 who had got around in S. Louisiana in his youth in a horse and buggy he was not quite as impressed with what I had built as I was with myself. Looked pretty good if I do say so myself. Especially on Red Alert! I think I have one Polaroid pic that still survives from 1973 to prove it ever existed but hey, Great minds and all that. (I also built the JAWS shark, Bruce, but another time)
I really enjoy these new style of videos. interviewing people who know and love what they're being interviewed about. I wouldn't even mind a longer format(15 min+)
lost in space is my all time favorite show!!!!!!
That kid has never seen an episode of TV's Lost In Space.
Boy, this brought back memories. That was our computer while I was in college, the Burroughs 205.
It covered a large room with hundreds of tubes and 5 Gibson Window air conditions to keep the beast cool.
It had a memory drum that took several days to spin up and stabilize.
I came up as a Gen-Xer on the mighty MOS 6502, famous for being a cheap architecture simple enough for a child to learn. Judging from what I can see and read, the 6502 had a comparable number of registers to the 205 (although the 205 had greater precision per register). But on one chip, for $25 per unit, in 1975! Everyone (including me) likes to say, "We've come such a long way, Apollo Guidance Computer versus my phone," etc, but it's staggering to realize that you could utter the phrase "we've come such a long way" at virtually any moment between 1942 and today, and have it still be true.
@@AlanCanon2222 Back in the 70's I had a KIM-1 computer that I think used a 6502 processor and 1 kB of RAM, which I programmed in machine language on a hexadecimal keypad.
What the hell is a memory drum and why would it take days to spin up? How much data could it store?
Just a note that that is not the whole B205 computer. It is just the Control Console.
Like most computers from the 1950s, the complete machine filled a room.
Astounding and transporting (back to 1965...)
One of those fools who make the world a brigther place. Thumbs up!
Hey Tested: Credit your interviewees with a link to their content in your description.
Really interesting, more of these interviews please
Norm was proper in awe of the how he worked out the lights and timings.
That guy is totally insane, and I love it, we need more wonderfully crazy people like Brain Mix in this world. Good job sir!
Gosh, that's freaking gorgeous! :O
Wow, this is amazing
That man put serious effort into this project. Kudos. Any other RPF videos coming?
So nice to see an old cam/microswitch control system in action. Brings back memories.
This man is incredibly talented!
Amazing. I enjoyed watching this.
nerd to the Nth degree. Thanks for capturing Brian's passion. Great interview, Norm!
As someone who actually worked on 1960's vintage computers in the early '60s, (U.S.Navy USQ-20) I was unaware of this Burroughs product. I recognize the register format, and the one I worked on had the neon lights, which were actually switches also. The computer I worked on could be manually programmed at great effort using those light switches. The boot up routine consisted of 18 words hand loaded, if the punched paper tape drive failed.
What a great replica! I loved that series when it was airing in the 60s. The ship was great tech but The Robot was the star of the show for me. Thanks so much for sharing what is obviously a labour of love!
incredible work!!!!!
this is awesome! i would of wired up the meter as well with the output of the transformers, you could have it move according to the current draw of the bulbs as they change just for extra effect.
Oh, that's good.
Great job!
Respect to this guy's dedication.
Amazing replica!
That's so cool!
2 million congrats guys
great video
Do you want them to turn comments off? That's how you get comments turned off. *smh* Great replica computer guys...
They should seriously turn comments off though. Reading tested comments is more often than not depressing.
Wow. Mind blown!
Impressive work. I wish someone had moved that other stuff so we could see more of it.
Hehe The original prop guys would've been like, just turn some lights on here and off there and put it on repeat and this guy's spent hours/days/weeks replicating that exactly. Amazing.
Hey viewers at 3:02 they go around the back and we see the way these things used to work back in the day, worth seeing this if just for that bit.
Super COOL!!!!
Ah, Sci Fi of the '60s, the more lights and sounds, the better.
And a row of flashing lights could always tell you where you were in the Universe
It looks like the analog computer of "The Imitation Game", just amazing
I appreciate how much he had to do to duplicate the lighting pattern, but as a kid I really hated that fake repetitive blinking. I was surprised to find out these panels had once actually been part of a real computer.
Yes, but the sequencer is basically a cam timer. Very crude stuff, but looks random.
I always wanted to see a device in the Bat Cave labeled " Bat Label maker ".
Got redundant at times, didn't it?
that duo tone hair.. nice prop!
Mind blown.
In Reluctant Stowaway you had alpha control, a mini UN and a tv studio in the same room? Hilarious!
my first thought is. some nerd will come up and tell him that the module aint blinking in the correct pattern. XD cool tho. love to see creativity like this! well done :)
It's correct for the show, but a running B205 would never behave like that.
I LOVE anything to do with LIS, ST, and POTA. ALL that was my jam in the early 70's. Later I was one of the first to build a replica of the KITT 2000 from Knight Rider in the mid 80's and I did it sorta the same way this guy did. I filmed several shows and froze frames on my VHS home VCR then I took a couple hundred pics of everything in that car on the screen to use as reference resources. Then I spent three years building it. And it ALL worked! Everything did something or was an actual gauge tied into my Trans Am's factory electrical system. At one point I even called George Barris to see if I could pic his head for any info on how it had been done. HE talked to me but he was gruff and mostly unhelpful. I remember he said the fake K.I. 2000 dashboard overlay in the car was vacuformed super-thin plastic. Said like the plastic of a one gallon milk jug. I built everythig by hand and searched coast to coast for switches, LEDs and components. I may not have been the first but if not I was really close. Now you can hire companies to turnkey you one. And most of them use pirated copies of my wheel, overheat T-top console and center console too.
VERY COOL !
Awesome
Thanks!
building one these too, could you tell me where you got the console case from?
This is great. I think I heard that in the back was 120v transformed down to 14 v but somewhere in there it was still 240. I was freaking out as they pointed at and waved their hands near the open back. It’s just a thing I have had with electrical devices. I have always liked them but one cannot be too careful. Touching the wrong thing or even coming too close could cause an arc and electrical shock. But well done in the replication
Oh, I'm so building one of these... I'm thinking all wood case (bent of course), brushed aluminum face, maybe brass screws/nuts. Wood face panels and high intensity LEDs. Maybe use something like a Pi Zero or Arduino for control. Going on the mantle over the fireplace, lol.
Also, Blue Harvest hat? Rad.
Tom Johnson Jr. You can use 555 based boards to get the same effect , I'm building one now, with 156 leds and lamps, all the leds look like old school indicators now , you hard wire the patterns ,into channels,and modify the patterns of those channels
I like it!!! How many watts on your lamps?? 1 watts E10?
I built a couple of smaller versions of the electrodata b-205 display, but need to find some cases for them, my faceplates are 24" by 12"' I am also on theLIS Props google group.
Replicating a Tardis(especially 1980s one) console would be cool!
This guy went the extra mile by deducing the patterns of lights from freeze frames of the show.
Nice seeing the labels in the closeups of the panel. Four bit, Binary Coded Decimal, judging from the specs on the Datatron 205 (rebadged after merger as the Burroughs B205). Ten decimal digits per register, plus a sign bit. Always wondered what those props were, they're fun to spot in all sorts of movies and TV shows of the 1960s-70s.
I too love the show
where do you get the lights?
Did DenverDallasScrews also used some Burroughs B205 computer? To bell-out the ring-calls. Missed them in german Televison.
I'm more fascinated by that shoddy Tribble prop he has on his head.
The colour doesn't even match his own hair.
This is probably his real hair. When you start going grey, it starts on the sides first. It will happen to you too.
+Fracture ... seriously? You are going to call out a man based on his haircut? What are you 12?
Heh. I like to revert to twelve, yes, I must admit. Twelve was a great age. And I wouldn't exactly call it a "haircut".
I think it might actually be Trump's...
BRIAN!
Incredibly deceptive! Looks much more complex than it is.
Your console is awesome !! ! I'm building a replicas also!! Have you seen it on the Lost in Space Memories FB page?
Trabalhei no desenvolvimento de um programa de planejamento no B205 da PUC-Rio.
Yeah!
Norm is at it again interviewing himself.
The one thing I always wondered with this kind of computer is how they interpreted the readout.
Nice
Actually Norm, the other stuff he had on his table wasn't from Lost In Space... and you referred to it as a film while this particular prop is a replica from the 1965-68 TV series. I forgive however, because of your total awesomeness.
Exactly. I mean, I think it's cool there is a replica of a uniform from forbidden planet sitting on the replica of the Jupiter 2 computer console; but am not going to sit here and complain about it. I am more interested in who made it, how much it cost to make one; and where can I buy one. Who cares if it happens to be in the video, big deal. How cares if anything else not Lost in Space happens to be in the video. Some folks are so nit picky.
You know if you could mage those light to display dots in braille letters you could read it like a real computer monitor for any output, input or data.
You guys should have Adam react to the erb video (Ghostbusters vs Mythbusters)
Olá O visual era bonito e naquela época pra entender o que o computador dizia era necessário estudar bastante para entender o visual das luzes do painel. Abraço! Rio de Janeiro Brazil
these were also in the orginal battlestar galactica. they were in the cylon basestar set. ohm myyy!!!
dedication
Does anyone know how the actual Borroughs 205 computer worked? What was the purpose of the blinking lights?
Is this really a computer or just a console to operate the remote computer that took up an entire room?
This TV prop is not a real replica. It's just a do nothing box of blinky lights. Actual computer is complicated to explain, check out some links below. The old IMSAI Altair 8800 was one of first home computers. It is simpler to understand operation with its many switches to set individual data bytes, one bit at a time. 8 binary on/off bits per byte (octal). Set switches for data and instructions to run program The blinking lights blink as program runs, indicating binary values of data, and final results. Light ON is = 1, OFF is = 0.
www.cs.virginia.edu/brochure/images/manuals/b205/central/central.html
tjsawyer.com/b205home.htm
www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205
www.altairkit.com/
www.vintage-computer.com/altair8800.shtml/
www.vintage-computer.com/mitsaltair680b.shtml
firstname lastname Back when I attended college in '78 the used a Gov.surplus univac computer that had a similar display . It was a vacuum tube and relay driven monster that took up 2 1/2 rooms! Complete with 4 reel to reel tape drives and card readers..
I find it rather amazing our cell phone is about 1,000 times the processor speed of say a Tandy 1000's XT processor from the 80's, and probably more so in computational speed due to the improvements in processor design and in improvements in multitasking, the use of co processors/ multiple processors, using GPUs to take on some of the work, etc. It will be interesting to see what the next 30 years brings us.
I love that mechanical cam drive. Today it would be done by a crappy microprocessor.
How do you read a computer like that?
Cool! In 1972 my high school guidance councilor tried to get me into computers by handing me some sale info from the Systron Donner Analog Computer company. In 1976 Jobs and Wos had made their first million building Apple Breadboards. Which I had saved that brochure, but you can Google it anytime. Also wish I had a technicality hipper guidance councilor.
I understand this is a Replica Prop, however if you're interested in seeing the actual Burroughs 205 computer check out this awesome page from the University of Virginia. The entire computer seems to be the size of a large room! They definitely used printer circuit boards to operate. Completely digital to my understanding, the only analog part I could think of would be what appears to be a tape cassette hard drive. www.cs.virginia.edu/about/museum/
your link is broke
I see a Forbidden Planet blaster rifle sneaking into frame down there on the left.
WOAAAHH!!!!!
Does anyone make or sell a replica kit?
That's interesting but damn, on the back I'd definitely use an Arduino. It'd be less work.
Less work, but this is a million times more satisfying when you're finished.
But this guy built it in the exact same way that the original one was built, and arduino didn't exist back then... So I think there is some merit to copying the original design. Arduino would be the easy way out.
Agreed. It's like the difference between costume, and screen accurate costumes. The nostalgia, and simplicity of these older machines, and the authenticity of the inner workings, make it a collector's piece. Easy and updated is fine too, but it's not as "real", if that makes any sense.
Girlish Goat I agree, that's clearly what he was going for and I applaud that. I'm saying *I* would have gone with a modern control system, because I could do so much more with it, OR be screen accurate, whichever I wanted, at the touch of a button.
It's death. As it is a electronic data processing system screen replica, it started as a highly dynamic screen and not as evolved Christmas lighting.
Is there any way to make supposed sense of which light means what?
If you look closely, you can see labels over each column of lights. There's a decent shot of it at 4:32.
Just a quick google search for the burroughs 205 does give some manual pages. The lights represent binary bits of the data the 4 main registers of the computer.
Is that Frank's shop? I feel like that's a good way to get something stolen..
'Analog' computer?
Or front panel from a digital computer
Younger people may not realize that you didn't need solid state to do digital logic; the 205 was from the vacuum tube era.
You don't even need much electronics at all to build a digital computer - the Z1 was built using all mechanical components.
Stick an actual modern PC inside the casing, and it would double in awesomeness. Seriously - if you compacted all the wires etc that run the lights, and stuck an ITX based system in one end of it (plus maybe a few fans on the bottom or something), it would work quite well I think.
Cool 🖒
Percentage of comments that are toupee based...?
Damnit. I can't unsee it now.
including yours, right?
i thought i put on marshall's wedding from how i met your mother. never thought men actually wore a toupee let alone a two shade one that contrasting, maybe it was a joke for the show? has to be a joke, he can't seriously wear that thing right?
its like what is he thinking? i am ashamed of my balled head, but not a different colored hair piece? why not just die all the hairs to be similar? he wants people to either know he is ashamed of his balled head but that he laid back enough to say I'm NOT ashamed that i wear a toupee, or he's just wacky a seriously wacky dude
Perhaps it's a replica of a particular prop from a movie? Yes, let's go with that.
Guess it never show up in any T.V. Science Fiction but dig this old digital computer idea Patent 3109554 that computes with compressed air! Bet if Babbage had gone with this he could have had the pipe organ guys build his Analytic Engine, and Lady Ada could have invented COBOL! They could have done your taxes and given concerts at the same time!
you know what guys something I think that would be incredibly interesting is I have a working comptometer if you could find somebody who has comptometer collection there're the most amazing calculating machines I have ever seen. mine is made by Friden and it calculates out to 21 decimal points if you did a show on those I think it would be fascinating they were used in the space program and engineering before computers
You should post a video of it. It would be interesting to see.
okay
Please do a vid on the Hogan's heroes coffee pot radio.
Strange that they call it an "analog" computer when it's obviously digital.
Fair Winds, it is probably called an "analog" computer here because the maker mentioned that it operates as an analog of the way the actual TV prop worked. Then the interviewer, although enthusiastic, like so many involved with Mythbusters and Adam Savage, talk a lot about things they don't really understand very well, use the wrong terminology for, etc; and then go out in their public presentations with laughably bad information. Concluding that this is an "analog" computer (or even part of one), and putting that in the video title, is laughable, sad and disappointing.
This prop by itself was not a computer, and they had more than one made for the Lost in Space pilot movie that never aired in its entirety.
RIP Adam West 1927 - 2017, the original Batman
it was also voyage bogtom sea
Everybody needs a "knob guy"
Good Toupee's are very expensive. And they are high maintenance. My Father (who died last year at 93) had two and they were $5000.00 each. Real human hair and hand made to match his remaining hair. As his hair got more gray they added more gray. I KNEW it was a toupee and at arms length I could NOT tell it was not real. I, personally, will never wear one. Too much trouble to put on and take off and wash etc. One day I'll just shave what's left and be done with it...Oh and I now have to go rewatch some LIS episodes because I saw them when they first aired. And The Batman episodes. I never knew that they used the same computer props...
So it wasn't just a cheesy prop effect. They actually had computers with lots of blinky lights in the 60's??? o_O
You can do quite a lot with analog computers. When they switched to digital in the 1960s and 70s it was actually a case of two steps forward/one step back due to the limitations of those early digital computers.
More precisely, they had them in the '50s and were already replacing them in the '60s with the computers with massive tape reels that would become a staple of '70s sci-fi..
Except it's not a computer, it's just a light sequencer.
Let's just take a moment to admire how well managed those wires are instead of being a total cluster fuck like I see on moderator tech
I was hoping this is an actual computer.
Theres a Logans Run gun in the foreground.
did he buy his hair piece there too?
Jezzz people are that interested to make a replica of that panel?