Spider Farmer SE 7000 Commercial LED grow light PAR test and review
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Spider Farmer SE7000 is a high efficient led grow light. Delivers an uniform PPFD, excellent light spread and very even coverage.
-100% authentic Samsung LM301B. (Spider Farmer is an official partner of Samsung company, which can be verified on Samsung website)
-Dimmable brightness and wattage from 10% to 100%, for separate growing stages seedling/veg/flower.
-Dimming daisy chain function allows multiple fixtures controlled at same time
-Detachable bar and driver, easy assemble
-DLC/ETL/CE Certified
Recommended Coverage for house-hold growers: 5ft x 5ft (1.5m x 1.5m)
Recommended Coverage for commercial cultivation: 4ft x 4ft (1.2m x 1.2m)
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Absolute GOAT of light reviewers. You’re a blessing to every growmie
Send the man some nugs :))
@@spoonkiller1663 I would, if customs didn’t seize it
Wt I win lol?
Nuts would b good.lol light be better.
I second that
Thanks Shane. Was sitting here getting pissed off from insomnia so what a welcome interruption.
I’m running 3 of these LEDs in my commercial grow. In 2nd week of flower, looking great so far!
Nice!
When they are free it’s easy to say
What size area, pot size? Curious on their website they only recommend 2 plants in 11 gallons per light. I was going to pick a few of these up. Thanks for any info
@@paulwithers8480 I usually run 16 plants per light, 2 gallon grow bags. See it on my channel.
@@nativesugarshack9328 you’re doing really well too. I just harvested and cured 1260 grams from a 4x4 with the SE7000 and didn’t need to crack past 80% this light will definitely rock a 5x5.
Hanging the light at 16 inches you get 1050 in the center and mid to high 800s in the far corners. Set it to 1000 like you do similar sized wattage lights.
Love this light.
It’s my favorite light so far I’ve grown with.
This is built with growers in mind with the modular build. If something does go wrong with one of the bars you can simply ship bar back and swap it out and not lose the entire light.
Awesome awesome build.
I vegged my entire 4x4 and never got passed 50% on the dial and in flower I maxed out at 80% .
800 PAR in the corners and 900 in the middle.
I don’t know what Shane is talking about. The build is absolutely near perfect. It’s a much better build then folding lights and snap in bars. Much more secure with less to go wrong. I think you’re over looking it’s a modular build and better than having drivers stuffed into the light itself with no name brand drivers and LEDs like a few over priced bulky inferior lights.
have you used the 5000 by chance ?
@@eggspanda2475 no I haven’t but it’s a similar build.
What distance did you have it from your plants in veg and flower?
@@mtprescas about 16 to 22 inches in veg and about 12 to 16 inches in flower.
Why so many spider farmer haters? I've used them for a few years next to hlg, and optic slims, without a single problem. I have a buddy that's been pulling 2lbs off of sf4000s. I just bought 12 se7000s, I could of bought any lights I wanted, but $650 for a 720 watt light with high end components, it's hard to go wrong. And no, sf does not sponsor me, I've bought all my equipment myself.
Because lots of people are having problems with these lights. Try to put yourself in their shoes. If SF's products wouldn't have as much problems with units failing, there wouldn't be as many people "hating" the brand.
It’s just 1 or 2 haters that are fanboys of other lights . Spiderfarmer is the truth
@@timpage5021 Read growing forums, it's way more than just "1 or 2 haters". And it's not due to any fanboyism but actual problems.
I do understand that some people who have bought Spiderfarmer lights have the need to hype the product and may have a negative response towards anyone who critiques the product they have bought. But please try to realize and understand that it doesn't help the people who have had bad experience with these lights or the customer service with Spiderfarmer one bit.
Hell, there even is a reviewer on RUclips who used Spiderfarmer LEDs and within couple of weeks multiple diodes had died on the light, but he just made everyone think it's ok and "cool" because he ran the lights "so hard"! Like wtf? Driving lights hard (meaning he didn't dim them) and causing the product to brake down is a cool and "street", "gangsta" thing in his opinion?
But I digress...
Bottom line: If the light works great for you and you have zero problems with it, great! But please don't belittle the people who have had problems and poor experience with the said product, and just brush the critique off as being a fanboy of other brands.
By doing so, the tables have kinda turned and you are doing the fanboyism and ignoring other's poor experiences with the product. In my opinion it serves no one except the manufacturer. If Spiderfarm would listen to the critique and problems people are having and then upping their QC or processes to have less faulty units, it would be a win-win for everyone.
Peace!
They don't have uv.
Don’t want to be impressed… I’m impressed
Adding 75% and 50% ppfd charts is great please do that for every light.
I’d buy a Photontek 600 or similar before I’d ever support this company again.
Thanks for sharing and peace ✌🏻
Why?
As should everyone do. We need to stop supporting these low quality brands who lie about their products and have a terrible customer service and warranty.
@@twentytwo138 100%
@@smeghead7698 why? Why what? Why by a sf? Yeah that’s what you need to ask yourself
@@stevehillbilly5797 Ok,I was after your insight on the subject. I've no skin in the game, just thought you may have personal experience worth sharing.
Just got the same one. Mine has black and silver housing with orange end caps. When I turned it on it was shocking how bright it is.
Black one is the old version. 80 less watts
@@joshbethel5800 no the old one is the white one
MIGRO with a proper and accurate review. Not my favorite company but this light is very good. It covers a lot of area and has the output for a good haul. For the price it’s great. Much cheaper than other top lights.
Not ultra efficient tho. i’d recommend setting up the driver outside the area. It gets hot but not out of control.
Like MIGRO says, it’s a great bang for you buck and I cannot complain about the end results. Stinky with heft and shiny…
I would def think about getting a light from a higher quality manufacturer but if this is at your price limit then you’re still doing fine.
Just some observations from an owner. I’ve had it for about 2 years. What MIGRO said is fair and his review gets it 100%
you have to mesure temp also in your reviews!!! thanks a lot for your videos they are so helpful for the community
It's unbelievable.
Hello Shane! Thank you very much for the work you do! I just saw your vid on bar grow light. I see that Secret Jardin added a new bar light to their offer. The Cosmorrow 20W (grow, bloom, IR and UV). I would love to have your opinion on these (espacially the grow version as a seedling/veg light for a 30cm x 60cm grow space). Cheers!
Cheers from New Zealand. Awesome video's.
Another great video Shane cheers
I hit the freeze to see 8 bar huh hahaha was that 700 Watts. That's really pushing the transformer usually they're 600 or so after that you need dual for long life like the chillcraft
Wish 'they' would stop using poorly insulated wires on these high temperature grow lights. Would be awesome if you started pointing it out so they can improve the lights. Serious desing flaw to have insulation on wires that are only rated 60c. The light can melt right through that. Keep seeing it from many of the Chinese brands. Even 105c is really not enough. They really should be using something like silicone rubber rated at 200c or something comparable. Terrible design considering it would only cost them a few cents to use wire that won't melt under normal operation.
I digress. Glad to see you're still plugging away making great content for us! :-) Stay high.
Looks like they have a new design on Amazon compared to the one that Migro reviewed, I wonder if that new design fixed the issue you're talking about or not. The reviews on amazon don't complain about any wiring issues tho, so that's weird
Very good point. Silicone insulation would be very neat to see.
I am not a bg fan of the stiff PVC cabling myself. For the ARAY I use silicone, nicer feel, returns to straight shape and rated for 130DegC👍
@@MinesanityServer Isn't this the new design? As far as i know, the silver/grey fixture is the new one, and the black fixture is the old one
@@MIGROLIGHT Hello Mr S. I posted this comment in another video.. sorry for the duplicate..I'm trying to see which one I should get Aray 8 pro or 12 Pro..my question is.. the Aray 12 is for a 5x5ft or a 4x6ft?..my question is because I see the structure and it seems to be like more long than wide because of the 3 pairs of double bars.. thanks and hopefully you understand my question
I run a 1000w sorry dunno the model no. Maybe 7000se? my one has ten bars instead of 8. Im going to buy another couple of them when funds permit for my 8x8... Im also going to buy the smart fans at the same time. This light supprised me its my first time running led, I normaly run a few dimable 1000w vented hps these new spider farmer led lights are the bees knees. I found running the ballast outside the tent helps with controling room temps...
great review but im not very impressed with the light, with the prices i see on their products and what the competition is bringing to the table, i would expect for more ease of use and general appeal in its esthetics unfortunately
Any alternatives that are more impressive? I’m looking to buy a new light soon
@@MinesanityServer Hey, it's me from the other comment. I did a lot of research and these are some of the brands i heard they're reliable, just from reading reviews, not my personal experience:
Migro, Photontek, Lumatek, Gavita, Chilled, HLG, Fluence, SANlight, Optic
@@MinesanityServer medic grow
@Pirate I got the phantom photobio last month for $650 and it is awesome
Thanks buying it
Can you test the Phlizon 640 foldable
Great review. I know they would get killed on the price/watt metric, but I would be interested in seeing SCYNCE lights go through your gamut.
This light is sure better then Migros shityy UK lights
How would you determine if a light will last for a long time, is it possible to somehow test the true quality of the lights? And would you stand behind the company's name for quality?
I'm asking because brands like SF and MH have excellent numbers and stats, great components, good features.. But do you think they really test and build every light in the same way? Maybe they sent you the best model which was tested and built specially for you as a partner, but they wouldn't do the same for customers.
There are many bad reviews of SF and MH.. People saying the lights stopped working after 1 month, started flickering, not turning off completely, not true wattage, diodes burning out, lamp overheating, drivers melting, getting electric shocks from the heatsink etc..
Some of the reviews you can read makes your hair stand up! And all the reviews are posted recently in 2021.
And there are also many bad reviews for their poor customer service. People complained the companies didn't honor the warranty, lied about shipments and refunds, sending the wrong models, sending parts to fix yourself, or waiting for repairs for more than a month, having to pay extra for shipping and repairs, not getting replies to e-mails, phone number not working etc..
And the worst thing is, their prices started to get higher and closer to real quality brands. They used to be ''cheaper brands'' but now they're not so cheap anymore. Especially with the included risks, it can be very expensive.
I've seen good reviews as well, but since they are so aggressive with marketing it wouldn't be surprise that most of the good reviews are fake. They're paying advertising and sending free lights left and right. And all of their partners are reviewing the light as soon as they get it, nobody ever reviewed the light after 1, 2, 3 years etc..
So how would one make sure the light will be good, without buying it and playing a gambling game?
EDIT: So i tried to post this comment multiple times but it keeps getting deleted. I cannot type the name of the companies so i guess everybody knows about SF and MH brands.
And i cannot post the name of the website for the reviews either. So i'll try it like this and hopefully i bypass the ''cancelling'' and ''censoring''
Check the bad reviews on the usual big online stores. And check the reviews on the website that has the words TRUST (and the person who rides the plane, it's not a driver, it's a P....)
And check the reviews for their each website ending in different domains, depending on the country/continent, each website has its own reviews, and all of them are mostly bad..
I knew Mars had a bad name at one point but not all the details you listed and certainly not with spiderfarmer. If a quarter of what you said is true then it's more than enough reason to not buy their products.
Thanks.
@@hisherbs8538 Please check the reviews on the website i mentioned, hopefully you understand which website i'm talking about. I cannot type the name of it, or my comment gets deleted!
They also inflate their numbers for sure, and their 5 year warranty is not true and free. If you read more of the description on their page, it says only 1 year is free warranty. For the rest you pay extra for some stuff, like shipping BOTH ways, or repairs.
@@twentytwo138 understand what company your talking about to look at reviews for them. Thanks growmie.
@@hisherbs8538 You're welcome. Honestly i would suggest anyone getting a light from Migro, at least he's an honest business with good quality, good warranty and good customer service. Personally i still haven't gotten a Migro light because i made a stupid mistake and spent my money on MH. But i will get one for sure. After i get my refund which i'm waiting for a long time already. And SF and MH are almost the same companies, or they're at least working together. Multiple companies with different names have their advantages.
What a sexy beast. The 5000 is on my shortlist at the moment. 7000 a little large for me but they are quality LeD
Suggestion for a future video:
Given you connections to the scientific cannabis community, could you bring on some one who can talk about THC development, peak, and degradation in trichomes with controlled testing of various cultivars in weeks 7 through 11?
Haven’t seen a scientific presentation on this yet.
Love the channel, cheers! 🍻
he cant mention cannabis because hell get demonetized
@@robibmw thought I’ve heard him mention it here and there over the years. Then he should just say “Tomatoes” with a big stage wink 😉
Thank you for your work. Do you have the ppfd data from other heights such as 12, 18, or 24 inches.? Its the light i have and really want to dial it in. Thanks
16 inches 1050 in the center with corners hitting mid 800 to high 800s. I’m confused as to why he didvt test it at 1000 like similar sized wattage lights. And idk what he’s put in his coffee but it has zero exposed wires.
Amazing for the price point
There are much better quality lights for a similar price.
@@twentytwo138 I'm a mammoth LED fan. But seeing this and Mary hydro fc-8000 I'm tempted. I find par map coverage very important and most lower budget lights fall short of that and your center is all that gets light. Which brands are you referring to. I'm interested
@@twentytwo138 also curious to the better quality lights?
👌
Super
Typically even with a hotspot, I get decent buds in the corners. It’s all the bud underneath the first 6 inches of canopy that I want to get bigger. Tired of eating edibles all the time. My old lady’s getting fat too.
Made my day, thank you sir!
Is the life expectancy reduced if the fixture is dialed back to 75% for prolonged veg cycles or is it more efficient and cost effective to run a less powerful fixture? It would be nice to know if it makes sense to get a unit like this for the times you need the horsepower but also be able to utilize it for the times when you don't. Having multiple fixtures is costly and space consuming to store when they are not in use.
It looks to be a very nice light. In the US $799. Here I think I would still lean towards the FC-E8000 at $659.
You don't need to spend that kind of money for 4X4 coverage, I have the FCE-4800 in mine which is more than adequate plus it has IR and UV.
@@stangcobra592 I agree, there are a range of products with better value. It was pitched as a CO2 setup light which is why I mentioned the FC-E8000.
@@gregkramer5588 why not the fc-e6500 in comparison to this light for $550. Makes the mars hydro decision easier. Personally believe the 4800 is all you really need in a 4x4 which Is why I chose that one myself. Regardless they all are great lights.
@@Priceiswr0ng I was just pointing to one that would beat it on price and output both. Nothing more.
I lover your reviews. The spider farmer g860 should be next up for review. spider farmer says it cost efficient but how?
What about the longevity? I've seen people complaining about the diodes burning out and having problems with the warranty as they are told to ship the units to china with their own money.
They’re top bin Samsung lm301b. This light will still be 98% efficient when your grandkids are old enough to grow something.
How about doing reviews for the UK it seems all your stuff is for the USA like the discount codes are for USA not UK. Also, you have not done a spider farmer see 5000 upgrade? Cheers, Shane great videos.
Hey shane, I am curious when using the uni T and PPFd app, what source type would you choose for this light. I am having trouble figuring it out as I dont see a full spectrum option or whatever. I am thinking LED 4000k +10% 660NM but im not sure if I did the averages right or what. Would appreciate a response! thank you!
you can see in your test that the one side with the uneven leds that the power cables attach to , has a lower ratting I was wondering about this when I looked at this light and was a main reason I decided not to purchase it . Same as always wondering if you can test this vs 4 450watt quantum boards dimmed down to the same watt for par spread and heat . I feel everyone is moving towards 1 big light yet I dont feel this is the best . sure its cheaper but what gives a better more even par ratting ?
I sent mine back . And one other thing one guy was saying the stuff is flaking off of this SC 1000 which contains silicone and if you smoke that it's extremely hazardous
Hi Shane could you do a compare test with the spider farmer SE1000 and the G1000 would like to know the difference in the two since they changed the diodes. Thanks
Spider Farmer SE 7000 How you will compare this panel to LUMATEK ZEUS 600W PRO I thinking to buy one of thous 2
Hi Shane, Steve, will you be reviewing the Omega Luna Pro + ? I am interested in the differences between the diodes and if the ppfd is delivered in a better light spectrum by either the SE7000 or the Luna Pro +... there are over 3000 LM301 diodes on the SE7000 and 2016x 2835 diodes on the Luna Pro + however the Omega delivers 2.9umol/w and over 1800ppfd... so which is better?
Spider farmer has a 1000 watt se model it seems like its meant to rival photonix could review thier co2 1000 w se model please I value your reviews and don't want to purchase 20 of them if they are not worth it
Would like a seedling led ligjt review
Can you recommend a grow light for my orchid terrarium. The terrarium size is about a 10 gallon tank . It setup in a vertical email orientation and on growing mini orchids that require high humidity and temperature but low light intensity. Thank you.
Performance-wise how does it compare with the Lumatek Zeus 600w Pro?
Awesome like always. Nice light too.lol
Is this light potentially better value for money than the Aray 8? Keeping in mind the higher PAR output and the potential to use CO2. I'm curious what you think.
No, it's not better value.
Aray is much better quality, and Migro is an honest business. Aray will last longer and his warranty will be honored. His numbers are fairly true.
@@twentytwo138 I have a Migro light but looking at other lights, recently they seem to be stepping up their game. For example some lights have a 5 year warranty, more LEDs, higher output, higher efficiency, comparable price, and the fixture style is very similar with the 8 bars widely. spaced. There's other things also that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Is the Migro Aray 8 still the clear winner, all things considered?
@@Convolutedtubules Yes, absolutely a clear winner. Migro doesn't lie and inflate his numbers, like the brands you're thinking about. Those 5 years warranty you mentioned are not true. Check their description better. Only 1 year is free warranty, for the rest you have to pay shipping, repairs, components etc.
And check my other comment, i spoke about their reviews.
Btw i'm talking about SF and MH brands specifically. There are other good quality brands.
@@twentytwo138 Thanks.
Does a 660nm LED have any bandwidth or is it a single frequency?
Could you run some more tests at different hanging heights with this light? I have this light in a 5x5 tent at a height of 18-24 inches (canopy not the best)
Samuel person whats your height now did you change it?
@@carloscervantes3895 I run it on average 24" above canopy veg@50% flower@70-100%
If you recommend 800 PAR then why you always set the lights you review at 1000?
While I do agree I don’t typically go over 800-900?
Center value... if you have center value at 800 and it only goes down it wouldn't be that optimal for the rest of your space.
@@michael2305 true. I know that bubba. I been at this a long long time. Nearly 3 decades. All I’m saying is he isn’t testing this the same as other lights. He hung it to where it was throwing down 1300 par in the center . He’s tested similar size and wattage lights at the 1000 mark . So he should set it there. I set mine at 1000 and im hitting 850 in far corners. You absolutely do not need co2 . Mines hung at 16 inches above the canopy. And the build is phenomenal. Super light weight. And idk what he’s putting in his coffee but there is zero exposed wires.
@@timpage5021 hey Tim. I got two of these lights. What kind of numbers are you getting for yield?
I just purchased a two days ago the SF SE7000 grow light. I don’t want to run Real CO2! Would a couple excel grow bags help? Please comment, thanks, 12/24/23
im pretty much wondering the same thing
Hey Shane, it would be awesome to think of the common 4x4 grower in mind.
For instance I would love to grab this light and dim it to get a better efficacy and much much lower running cost.
Super cheap for it's tier. I would get Medic Grow but the shipping is too much for Aus. SF is free shipping...and super quick in AUS.
I was waiting for this light to be tested by you before buying, and I'm annoyed you didn't show the ppfd map for more variations, not even at 1000um. Confused.
you can't do simple math and reduce the percentage of 100% yourself? confused.
Have you done a video on the chilled growcraft?
🤔 Might be a way to search that
@@kp1242 🤣
@@kp1242 well I looked for 5 minutes he doesn’t do the one I got,
mine is 1000 watts gay boi🤣
Need to reach out to reyonled and do a review on the glmf-720 0r 60 👍
Are you going to be doing a review on the new kind light by chance the new commercial and x series?
How to know if this is real?
All these big powerful new lights are kind of useless for the average grower
are you kidding? you can run them at lower power and have super nice efficiency and even light spread.
@@michael2305 Yeah, and hang higher giving better spread and penetration.
only if you're growing average product
You may be new to this so a reasonably valid point I would think
Depends on the country.. Home growers in places where it's illegal they use small tents.. In places where it's legal, home growers use large tents for all kinds of usage.. From smoking, to edibles, oils, creams, medicine, sharing with family etc..
Hello I tried purchasing an SE7000 but the company is not responding nor there is a phone number they can be reached on.
I have the feeling this is some Hoax company pretending to be in America and Europe but actually they are from and based in Shenzhen.
I am scared to buy from this company.
Hopefully anyone has some more information about Spider Farm and their reliability as their customer service so far seems far below averatge.
Is this light better than the Lumatek zeus Pro 2.9 , the latest version ?
I can get the Lumatek for £700 brand new. The spider farmer unit is
Has dropped in price to £600 .
Edit : I just purchased the spiderfarmer se7000 for £480 , absolute bargain .
Where from I am interested and was also comparing same lights if can se7000 for £480 that would make my decision and just run it from a higher height
@@neilstewart2036 I bought it directly from the spider farmer website .
Every week they have a flash sale ,
The se7000 went down to £520 and I used a discount code to get a further discount. Total came to £478 .
I could have got a further 8% off if I had bought 2 lights .
So forget ebay and all these other sites , go direct to the manufacturer.
They are the best In my opinion, service is 5 🌟 .
All lights come with 5 years warranty . Delivery is very fast and packing is discreet .
@@neilstewart2036 they are not joking when They say it's a commercial unit .
This thing is huge . It's exactly 1.2 m squared .
The power of the light is amazing, at 10 % it's as bright as 250 w hps .
At full blast you definitely will need CO2 and even then you better keep them at a safe distance .
I saw a used se7000 for sale on ebay , Asking price is £350 .
Check it out .
Good luck 👍
wow it is almost exactly like the fc-8000 on the par map. just a hair weaker if could be the fc-7000, has the same light pattern as mars hydro with 2 to 1 warm white and cool white. guess it would all boil down to customer service. which ever has the best customer service has the best light. mars hydro has a loop hole on the warranty it has to be shipped back in the original box for the warranty to be valid. imagine that. how many people would keep the box around for 3 years in their house collecting dust.
They are the same companies.
@@twentytwo138 did not know that learn something new every day. that would make sense why they are so alike.
This better than the hlg Diablo?
How many diodes?
The site says 2600+
@@eroticnoodle arigato
No diodes if they stop working after 1 month LOL
Did it have blue ?? Lol
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seems to me you tweaked your methodology for this lamp
What do you mean by this comment. I just bought this damn thing lol
@@Comeback.king. check other videos. He is not consistent with tests.
@@Comeback.king. just off the top of my head, the most recent GML tarantula video is a bunk test.
@@jackhand4073 ok but what do you mean he tweaked his methodology
@@Comeback.king. changing hanging heights for example.
Oh my god, can you please edit out all your mouth noises, jesus christ.
If you don’t like it shuffle on … like really 🤦♂️😅😂🤣
@@user-ex9vc7xq4o Oh yes, great advice for Shane, he shouldn't edit out extraneous audio that has a track record of grossing people out. He shouldn't use a quality mic that doesn't target his throat area like the lapel mic does. Cool, you available to hire as an audio-visual consultant? Stellar, statistics-driven data, bud, you must already be successful in the industry. I like it, The Aussie grower says: "Never refine or improve your product!" Solid advice.
@@MrE1981 the only person concerned is you so how about you find something better amuse your time with fella 😅
@@MrE1981 joined 15 yrs ago with 14 subscribers how is working for you 🤫😂🤣
@@user-ex9vc7xq4o dude posted some smart ass shit like three weeks ago as well. You would think the peckerhead would just move on. Ain't there like a million mother fuckers reviewing lights on RUclips these days.
Wanna see its rating for a 5*5 area. Do you have a site where we can are all the trying for the different lights you've done? @migro