I got my first netracell-brand shard today, and it was the exact one I was needing for what I was wanting to do; a tauforged blue to mix with my tauforged yellow from the acolyte last week. The new colored shards are what I’m most excited about in Whispers, and I’m honestly surprised to see DE give us a secondary source to farm them from!
My one gripe with the new expansion is this is the ONLY way to get the legendary arcanes and all the other ones you can farm or buy with standing are also in the drop table. Even tho theres one 1 archon hunt a week its a Guaranteed shard. Limiting the legendary ones to just 5 chances per week is not cool. If you get lucky and get 1 out of the 5 runs, its 21 weeks to get a max rank one. Thats IF you get at least 1 EVERY WEEK. I think de needs to pull the other arcanes from this reward pool, especially if they drop everywhere else. This it like Destiny raid reward levels but worse because you need 21 to get 1 maxed. You have a better chance getting arcane energized because at least you can farm those several times A DAY EVERY DAY as long as its night cycle.
Tbh kind of an L and W take at the same time, they do need to improve it but they should do that by giving you an extra set of runs for every rank you have past rank 2, I'm thinking maybe 1 or 2 more runs per and then the ability to gain more runs by beating the boss on steel path with it at max strength, and I guess a good number for that would be 5 more but it doesn't stack
Should have actually dropped "Netracells" you can use as a currency. 1 per mission guaranteed, and a chance to find rare collectables like the way the Iso Vaults had the floating things in it sometimes. Every 5 Netracells you can buy a basic Shard. Every 12, you can buy a Tau. It'd mean that even with bad luck you have guaranteed progress and no run will feel wasted. (Netracells might even buy other stuff like the Tome mods and Arcanes) Also I really feel like you should have just been able to use a standard shard with a Tau to make a Tau fusion shard. Tau-Tau is excessive and there's already a painful tau deficit, so Plain-Tau for Tau Fusion would feel like a healthy sink to use non-Tau shards and improve player feels.
@@rileyhogan8919 ya, if I got 1 per week and it still takes 5 months to get one max rank it's sooo being handed to me on a plate. What was I thinking. 5 months of grinding for a chance is nothing. My bad.
If my understanding of de is correct, they’ll keep it like this until the next big thing comes out and then they’ll introduce an alternative way to get the legendary ones in an easier way/rework netracells missions. Also (this is just my personal opinion as a player with just 600 hours) I think the legendary arcanes maxed out would kinda break the melee meta. Like, on paper they seem very very strong and DE probably doesn’t want to deal with that anytime soon
In my experience I don't think they bug and don't spawn but instead they get stuck somewhere for example I had a run with the drone getting stuck in one of the light fixture/chandelier thing in the roof and it was almost impossible to see I only eventually found it after void dashing directly up from an arrow on the map
Anyone that struggle with necramite drone...equip max range xaku ..press 4 when at 60-50m range..it should 1 shot the drone instantly..done 10 run solo with 0 bug necramite drone so.. have fun
Not as hard as I thought. Went into this solo with my steal path baruuk build. Was pretty easy although I did loose shields a few times and they tickled my health a little.
What about the vault pickups? If you die after the vault is opened but before you go in and loot yourself? I have seen the defense area spawn 500m from the vault (around a long twisting corridor), so there is the chance you die on the run back.
Quick fact, you can just look at the key glyph symbols from anywhere in the room and it will show up on your screen so you don't have to run around looking at them
After 10 of these I got exactly one of the melee arcanes, and not even the good one. I guess these are going to be the new arcane energize as far as the work required to farm them. Months and months to make any progress at all, probably. But I guess, especially now, you can't really have too many archon shards.
I can never get past a few seconds stepping foot in the Netracell without dying and I'm lacking so much strong mods and builds on all of my warframes, also I'm completely on my own when going to this mission, I don't know what I'm missing but I really need help so much, I can't do a thing by myself
@@Ultrapassive you basically have to spam cast his 4 with the augment on with maxed ability strength. Or you could just play as Revenant or Citrine and simply not care about the damage.
The Netracell missions have been a total waste of time for me & my group. 3 weeks (15 missions) & i believe we have only gotten 2 regular shards. None of the arcanes were rare either.
Nuke the daylights out of every corner of the area, and don't neglect high ceilings either. You can also leave the area and try to guess where it is based on where you see the UI marker. I've blindly shot at where the marker seemed to be even though I didn't see anything, and popped several stuck objectives for my pub squads that way. One time I popped an objective that didn't show up at all by blindly leaving the area to nuke rooms and halls with just a bit of instinct involved.
It's really not that difficult with decent incarnon weapons. Archon hunts feel way harder, just because randoms constantly die from the bullet sponge part. You should definitely just find a way to make your favorite way tankier. I use Elemental Ward on my Nova (replace her 3), and use umbra mods and strength+health stacking mods. Things like revenant should only be used if you plan on passing level 1000 or so. Unless, ofc, you just enjoy playing him. Then, use him at level 25 defense missions too lol
@MrHeiska01 I've Been doing it with Grendel... Obviously he's Tanky and can Deal Damage but where he Truly Shines is just how Fast his Meat Ball is. I was Originally going to use Wukong but turns out I haven't Formats him Yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I did this with a team last week and at some point the mission failed. I did it 5 times solo and i do not see how it even can fail as long as someone is alive. Does anyone have an idea?
Have to live with the dice if you choose to pub stuff. Find what you can along the way and just go with the flow. Is what it is. Else solo or premake a squad of likeminded map crawlers. You can also adopt speedrunning tactics for yourself to get good at quickly map crawling. Look into Titania speed clearing stats where you zoom through the map nuking all breakables with high loot radar so you pay attention to when a container marker didn't go away when you nuked an area, so you can know it's something more important like a Voca and stuff.
i've found that this mission isn't so hard to solo. i used Harrow Prime with Tenet Arca Plasmor and the most i've struggled with is finding the Necramite. especially when it spawns in weird places. none of the Keyglyph debuffs have any meaningful effect when i use Harrow. shame i only got 4 melee arcanes and 1 adapter.
Same with wisp, one heven resets on jump, so my exodia contagion zaw just cheeses it all solo. As for my loot, I got 3 shards (I2 crimson, 1 yellow) and 2 adapters.
- Enter mission
- take all 4 keyglyphs
- refuse to elaborate
- start the mission
Basically it is the same as with the derilect vaults.
Ah yes, the Revenant strategy
- spend 3 of your 8 minute video teaching some 10 year old to do your youtube credits
The only page I enjoy watching when I need to know something on wf straight to the point and no extra unnecessary stuff 👍
Also a sympathatic person :)
I got my first netracell-brand shard today, and it was the exact one I was needing for what I was wanting to do; a tauforged blue to mix with my tauforged yellow from the acolyte last week. The new colored shards are what I’m most excited about in Whispers, and I’m honestly surprised to see DE give us a secondary source to farm them from!
Get revenant. Get all the 4 glyps. Rev all teammate. Take the rewards peacefully.
alternatively if you dont have kitted rev, rhino is also very good for taking all glyphs
I just grabbed all four with a Trinity Prime tank build. Worked great, easy. Didn't even notice all the health debuffs.
"Victoria Gaming Things now" hilariouse
My one gripe with the new expansion is this is the ONLY way to get the legendary arcanes and all the other ones you can farm or buy with standing are also in the drop table. Even tho theres one 1 archon hunt a week its a Guaranteed shard. Limiting the legendary ones to just 5 chances per week is not cool. If you get lucky and get 1 out of the 5 runs, its 21 weeks to get a max rank one. Thats IF you get at least 1 EVERY WEEK. I think de needs to pull the other arcanes from this reward pool, especially if they drop everywhere else. This it like Destiny raid reward levels but worse because you need 21 to get 1 maxed. You have a better chance getting arcane energized because at least you can farm those several times A DAY EVERY DAY as long as its night cycle.
Yeah cope harder. Not everything in the game should be handed to you on a plate
Tbh kind of an L and W take at the same time, they do need to improve it but they should do that by giving you an extra set of runs for every rank you have past rank 2, I'm thinking maybe 1 or 2 more runs per and then the ability to gain more runs by beating the boss on steel path with it at max strength, and I guess a good number for that would be 5 more but it doesn't stack
Should have actually dropped "Netracells" you can use as a currency. 1 per mission guaranteed, and a chance to find rare collectables like the way the Iso Vaults had the floating things in it sometimes. Every 5 Netracells you can buy a basic Shard. Every 12, you can buy a Tau. It'd mean that even with bad luck you have guaranteed progress and no run will feel wasted. (Netracells might even buy other stuff like the Tome mods and Arcanes)
Also I really feel like you should have just been able to use a standard shard with a Tau to make a Tau fusion shard. Tau-Tau is excessive and there's already a painful tau deficit, so Plain-Tau for Tau Fusion would feel like a healthy sink to use non-Tau shards and improve player feels.
@@rileyhogan8919 ya, if I got 1 per week and it still takes 5 months to get one max rank it's sooo being handed to me on a plate. What was I thinking. 5 months of grinding for a chance is nothing. My bad.
If my understanding of de is correct, they’ll keep it like this until the next big thing comes out and then they’ll introduce an alternative way to get the legendary ones in an easier way/rework netracells missions.
Also (this is just my personal opinion as a player with just 600 hours) I think the legendary arcanes maxed out would kinda break the melee meta. Like, on paper they seem very very strong and DE probably doesn’t want to deal with that anytime soon
imagine you have friends :D
thank you very much for walking
imagen if you have friends. i felt that
In my experience I don't think they bug and don't spawn but instead they get stuck somewhere for example I had a run with the drone getting stuck in one of the light fixture/chandelier thing in the roof and it was almost impossible to see I only eventually found it after void dashing directly up from an arrow on the map
lmao the outro was amazing
Anyone that struggle with necramite drone...equip max range xaku ..press 4 when at 60-50m range..it should 1 shot the drone instantly..done 10 run solo with 0 bug necramite drone so.. have fun
Problem is.. I can't survive with Xaku
didnt know duplicate was a legendary, me and a friend got one on the first run
I got one this morning, super excited!
Those Operator doors are buggy, they open visually but never let people through unless you are the host.
Not as hard as I thought. Went into this solo with my steal path baruuk build. Was pretty easy although I did loose shields a few times and they tickled my health a little.
What about the vault pickups? If you die after the vault is opened but before you go in and loot yourself? I have seen the defense area spawn 500m from the vault (around a long twisting corridor), so there is the chance you die on the run back.
If you don't pick up the loot you should not get it on extract.
I like to put melee arcanes on the MIGHTY SEER
Problem is, I am kinda cursed and don't get the loot described in the headline but the trash arcanes and the adapter
Quick fact, you can just look at the key glyph symbols from anywhere in the room and it will show up on your screen so you don't have to run around looking at them
After 10 of these I got exactly one of the melee arcanes, and not even the good one. I guess these are going to be the new arcane energize as far as the work required to farm them. Months and months to make any progress at all, probably. But I guess, especially now, you can't really have too many archon shards.
I got three melee crescendo arcanes by myself on the first week!
What are the chances?
5.67% 😳
@@lookalike4805this guy maths
I can never get past a few seconds stepping foot in the Netracell without dying and I'm lacking so much strong mods and builds on all of my warframes, also I'm completely on my own when going to this mission, I don't know what I'm missing but I really need help so much, I can't do a thing by myself
Volt is so fun for these, I just give speed and race my team to the different points 💀
leyzar is really better to do the steel path version of the mission or the normal one is enough?
The Steel Path Version is not Intended and will be Removed Later.
Wait so i got lucky finding 3 archon shards and 2 arcanes?
no its the highest drop chance
@@YourichiiDZ exilus adapter is the highest drop at 20%
The Archon Shards are 9.27%
And the Arcanes are 5.67%
@@1995Milky1995 nope its archon shard and arcanes
got it, keyglyphs = dragon keys.
Hi I get the prize twice and then nothing at all is their a limit each week to the rewards.
OUTROTOP TEIR
For all my people that wanna do this solo, styanax is your best friend
*Laughs in Revenant*
So.. I really like Stynax but I had trouble keeping his overguard up enough to survive and I was in a group
@@Ultrapassive you basically have to spam cast his 4 with the augment on with maxed ability strength. Or you could just play as Revenant or Citrine and simply not care about the damage.
@@MrThatguyandrew thanks.. love citrine
The Netracell missions have been a total waste of time for me & my group.
3 weeks (15 missions) & i believe we have only gotten 2 regular shards.
None of the arcanes were rare either.
A mate of mine had 3 tauforged shards in his first 5 runs.....
also the necramites are sometimes near invincible and takes me 5 minutes to kill jjst one
Ive done dozens and dozens, so many and still no mele duplicate :(
5 runs 5 adapters. I am sure the loot tables are bugged. (j/k)
Now someone spawned a nechromech even thought the tileset does not allow it how chief plz explain
That's easy... The Tileset Does Allow it and it's MANDATORY For some Bounties. 👀
Cube PCs allow necramechs to appear from a nearby mech station.
Honestly they are way more easy Solo.
I use my Kullervo for it with no problem.
Archon Hunts are in my opinion harder.
when Sober DLC?
so what do you do if you cant find the necramite in the area?
try destroying the furniture. That spawns it sometimes.
Hostmigration got one to spawn for me ^^ had to go back to the red zone for it to update itself after the hostmig though.
They are sometimes hiding. I found one near the roof on small platform.
Nuke the daylights out of every corner of the area, and don't neglect high ceilings either.
You can also leave the area and try to guess where it is based on where you see the UI marker. I've blindly shot at where the marker seemed to be even though I didn't see anything, and popped several stuck objectives for my pub squads that way. One time I popped an objective that didn't show up at all by blindly leaving the area to nuke rooms and halls with just a bit of instinct involved.
If you play Xaku built around his 2 you normally can just press 4 in the middle of the red area and kill it instantly without searching.
men , thx for u hardwork , but i can tell ur teammate felt so disappoint at the end .just like the rest of us who fram it
What do key glyphs do
Why go for more than 1
Why TF am I even more confused after watching this video?
😂
What frame is he using?
Wisp prime, you can see the name on the top right corner
@@grev3471 thanks yeh problem was my resolution on screen was to blurry for me to see the screen properly
Looks like *Revenant Prime* Usage Stats are about to Sky Rocket. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's really not that difficult with decent incarnon weapons. Archon hunts feel way harder, just because randoms constantly die from the bullet sponge part. You should definitely just find a way to make your favorite way tankier.
I use Elemental Ward on my Nova (replace her 3), and use umbra mods and strength+health stacking mods.
Things like revenant should only be used if you plan on passing level 1000 or so. Unless, ofc, you just enjoy playing him. Then, use him at level 25 defense missions too lol
@Cabrera1027
I want you to Look at everything you just Typed and Compare that to Pressing 2 with Revenant. Most people will do that Latter 🙃
@@lookalike4805 about cc? Lol immunity is the opposite of cc.
I found Nekros to be perfect for thins. It can handle all health and energy negatives with ease. Well... As long you wont die to first couple enemies.
@MrHeiska01
I've Been doing it with Grendel...
Obviously he's Tanky and can Deal Damage but where he Truly Shines is just how Fast his Meat Ball is.
I was Originally going to use Wukong but turns out I haven't Formats him Yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5 runs zero shards nice job de
Idk about you guys but for me the necramite spawns have been SO BAD that its basically not worth playing at all. ie, like 60-70% no spawns
50-50 run isn't bugged oh DE if only they knew how much i'm holding myself from telling them to ingame themselves
I did this with a team last week and at some point the mission failed. I did it 5 times solo and i do not see how it even can fail as long as someone is alive. Does anyone have an idea?
Apparently when Someone Dies... The Keyglyph Goes with them.
Not Enough Keyglyphs and the mission becomes Impossible to do 👀
speedrunners won't let me search for what I need :(
Have to live with the dice if you choose to pub stuff. Find what you can along the way and just go with the flow. Is what it is. Else solo or premake a squad of likeminded map crawlers. You can also adopt speedrunning tactics for yourself to get good at quickly map crawling. Look into Titania speed clearing stats where you zoom through the map nuking all breakables with high loot radar so you pay attention to when a container marker didn't go away when you nuked an area, so you can know it's something more important like a Voca and stuff.
i've found that this mission isn't so hard to solo. i used Harrow Prime with Tenet Arca Plasmor and the most i've struggled with is finding the Necramite. especially when it spawns in weird places.
none of the Keyglyph debuffs have any meaningful effect when i use Harrow.
shame i only got 4 melee arcanes and 1 adapter.
Same with wisp, one heven resets on jump, so my exodia contagion zaw just cheeses it all solo. As for my loot, I got 3 shards (I2 crimson, 1 yellow) and 2 adapters.
Nekros works well too. All health and energy negatives dont really matter as long you kill stuff.
😂😂😂
its much faster to solo it than pub squad, most of the time my squadmates kill the enemies outside red circle..
first
Arcane adapters need removing from this mission and trash arcanes this is a big waist of time!!!!
Simp