No Foam? No Problem! EGG CARTON BRICKS
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In this video I test out using paper egg cartons as an alternative to XPS insulation foam for doing brick and stone facades on miniature buildings and terrain.
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What magic alternative material have YOU found to replace foam?
I'm testing out molding scenery in molding rubber and casting in resin to save time on making multiple times
extremely crumpled paper glued to cardboard, coated, painted gray, dry brushed light gray and blackwashed makes decent stone bricks/surfaces for me
Maybe the cardboard back of notepads? OK you use more eggs than notebooks but you can get more bricks out of one. I really like the way your test piece turned out but there are often big stickers on the flat side of an egg carton where I live. Which makes it harder to get a clean piece. But is it possible to create texture on notepad cardboard?
Cloë egg cartons are just ONE item made of this recycled paper and the one that jumped to mind for me since we always have them. But this type of textured paper is also often found as packing material in things like electronics.
If you’re really adventurous you could make your own, and have easy to use flat sheets. Bit of work but could be made out of garbage.
Black Magic Craft Used to build with Hirst Arts molds and dental plaster. Don’t build anymore though. I just like watching these videos.
I actually do doll houses, but I learn so much from you terrain guys and from train terrain folks. Conversely, doll house people have been using these egg carton "stones and bricks" for quite some time. So lesson for me, is don't just listen to your own hobby folks, but also to folks who do sort of related things. I have learned SO much doing that. And BTW, the egg carton technique can be used to do slate shingles. I did an entire roof in them and if you take time and do a good paint job from pictures on the internet, they look really cool and realistic. Thank you Black Magic Crafts. I have learned so much from you and now use foam a lot more than I ever did before in building dollhouse parts.
I'm here for dollhouses too :) I'm going to be using this technique for the siding of a castle. I really wanted to see if this still looked good with oblong shapes
I’m also here for dollhouses. Well, miniature kits specifically. Learned lots here, but yeah I saw about egg cartons a while ago. A crafter I watch from Ukraine makes flowers from them.
Oh and another channel showed how to use egg carton mush to make terrain. Very versatile.
I was so confused when Miniac showed up. My whole reality is shattered! Nothing makes sense anymore! (great video)
im waiting for the 3 of you along with terrain tutor to make a wargaming map table together :)
@@anteerceg527 I don't think I am on their level when it comes to terrain stuff. Though I am going to work more on casting resin stuff. For some reason I always want to hate Miniac but his editing is so damn good and his videos are so helpful...I bought Parchment paper for my palette and it works so great. It's very frustrating.
@@Blandco oof xd
Good luck with resin
@@Blandco you want to hate me??? D:
when miniac showed up I thought I hit the wrong link and then I was all WHOA!!!
Miniac intro made me happy XD
They should do more cameos.
Also don’t forget that the paper cartons can be submerged in water and glue for the best paper mache out there. Once in that state, one could even take the paper mache to mold their own bricks and such if they needed a thicker brick or piece of scenery like cliff faces and such. Great vid and nice to bring other material to the forefront that people can possibly substitute.
Where'd you get that DRIPPIN' apron?
Also, thanks for the shout out
When I quit my day job to go hard on RUclips my boss gave it to me as a going away gift 🙂
Thanks again for taking the time to film my silly idea 🙏
Haha, I was so confused. I was already thinking when I clicked this video. waiiit I was looking for build stuff, why do I see you here xD
I also grind egg carton, dry, in a coffee grinder. This makes a very fine fuzz that can be stored dry. I mix batches of this with white glue, water and corn flour. I add corn flower to soften the texture according to how coarse I want it to be. It dries very hard. This eliminates the unnecessary soaking and kneading to make clay. Michael
Another doll house builder here. Love watching your channel, always learn something! Thanks!
I recently saw a fantastic looking medieval house (the standard wooden frame with white rectangles/triangles in between) where the white walls were made out of paper tissues soaked in PVA. There really are no boundaries when it comes to ingenuity, in hobbymaking or in life in general, one just can't let lack of funds get between him and his goals.
never mess with a man in apron. that is a man who means business
There's a RUclips channel called "Creative Mom" that makes fantasy builds out of a kind of clay made from egg cartons and glue. Seems to work really well and might be worth a try as well!
I worked with XPS insulation foam for over a year and did just fine. I worked with what I had which was the large "Olfa" knife, butane torch and cheap "jewlers" saw. Even after I was given a "broken" (was just missing a screw that I just happened to have one that worked perfectly) table top foam cutter. Even now I still rarely use it, but there are times I'm really glad I have it to save me a little time, like when I need to cut multiple pieces the same shape or when the angle is (for lack of a better term) "critical".
I have yet to see a BMC video that didn’t leave me itching to grab some materials and start a new build
I can't get foam easily where I live, so I love to see alternatives. But I also love to see non plastic alternatives. Crafting generates waste, no matter how careful or resourceful you are, and to know I'm not contributing to plastic waste is important to me.
If you consider the things you build “waste” that’s on you 😉
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial No, I'm referring to off cuts etc. I know there won't be much. It just makes me feel better. 😊
Make stuff out of waste instead of making stuff and creating waste.
I'm a 76 year old female who has just started making miniatures. I absolutely love your videos especially the way you get straight to the point! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills. (Australia)
When I was a kid(back in the late 1970s! LOL), my best friend built the Spaceship Yamato from "Starblazers" out of egg cartons, it was AMAZING. I remember us both making X-wing fighters from "Star Wars" too... but he was waaaaay better at that stuff than I was.
My girlfriend built me a hotwire foam cutter, gods bless her. But this is really useful tip, egg cartons are a really good idea when you need to make something quickly, and it's often pre-texturized. Thank you!
PyramidXSlender Those things are hard to make! She's a keeper
Funny you should say that - my hotwire foam cutter built me a girlfriend!
Reading Lennon IKR?))
@@MithradatesMegas wow, that must have taken forever to cut and paint!
Mithradates did you flock her?
Here I was waiting for a local contractor to supply me with some cut offs to get started, with 2 empty egg cartons in the recycling bin! This is an awesome alternative, I'll be sure to use it sometime!
I'm friends with a teacher who uses paper egg cartons for art projects. Sure looks useful for gaming terrain as well! Thanks
I find those cups for plant seedlings even better. Similar material and texture.
As a butcher at Safeway we give out trays for free if you need them. Though not in bulk like 15, 9x8 trays is no issue and that should go a long way. I've been using butcher trays for terrain for a while and they work great!
thats awesome
🚲 Safeway's still a thing ? They bugged outta Richmond in '93.🚛
This is An Absolutely amazing video! I’m definitely using this for castles, windmills, villages, etc. Thank you
Thank you!
You save my life.
Here in Argentina, the economy isn't in the best moment, so have this technique... wow.
When I was in grade 11 I had to make a model for Geography, and the only materials I had apart from paint and paper, were a lot of paper egg cartons....I softened them with water to make a pulp and mixed in pva glue.....better than any clay or other sculpting stuff I've seen.....and it painted really well too
Miniac did an awesome intro. You guys should work together more.
I love the Miniac intro! Two of my favorites packed in one video!
Another advantage of using paper material, is that you can use a paper punch instead of cutting each individual "brick" by hand. Cheers!
This rocks! Hammer out buildings using blocks of foam then use this method to cover them would make for easy builds. Making bricks might be even easier if you used a paper cutter to zip them out.
Needed an end cap from Scott yelling 'and don't forget to CRAFT. MORE. TERRAAAAIN.'
Good suggestion! Also, thanks for reminding me that I need to go buy eggs.
Even though this is a 3yr old vid I just recently started trying to make buildings from cardboard and thus channel pretty much made me get modpodge and it works great on the thing I'm building
Great video and solved many problems. The thing is even though i like XPS foam, i feared brick projects for two reasons:
1. The xps foam i get my hands on arent as good for bricks, i dont know why. Probably there are several different qualities.
2. Without hot wire, clean cuts for uniform bricks are almost impossible. Knife isn't the best option for small individual bricks. Especially for thin cuts.
So this egg carton solves a lot. And you don't have to spend extra time for stone texture. Win win. :)
You are so right about finding alternatives. I live in Zimbabwe and can get none of the stuff so spend my time foraging .
Watching your videos got me into the hobby and I'm looking forward to dropping set pieces in my Pathfinder campaigns. It'll be a real treat for my players as I've been Minds Eye Theater for years. Waitin' on my wire cutter (bought through your affiliate link) in the mail, but in the mean time, gettin' to choppin' with a blade. Cheers!
Great to see you and Scott working together!
Thanks for the advice. I just tried this process to make stone pathways.
I don’t even do this stuff lol but you’re my new fav RUclipsr....thanks for the videos man, you’ve got a lot of talent and a great attitude
I saw this technique used in a Doll House makers video, she was doing more modern red brick buildings, and her results were awesome. Great to see this technique getting broader use/awareness. Very cool! Miniac's video about building a table is a must watch. No matter what obstacles a project presents, it can still be achieved. Mistakes will be made, and thats part of any craft. Make mistakes, learn from them and share your knowledge. Glad to see you two collaborating!
Fabulous alternative. I am a new to modeling and miniatures and whatnot. I love this idea.
I live in Bolivia and really can't find XPS. I've been experimenting with egg cartons since a month or so and using your paint videos.
I also break down the egg carton into pulp with hot water, add glue and have great rock/cave building materials.
Thanks a lot for the ideas!
This video makes me so happy, because it confirms something I'd been considering for awhile. I'm a fan of both gaming terrain and dollhouse miniature making youtube channels, and about a year back a channel called The Square to Spare used this technique to make paving stones for a dollhouse build they were doing. Often, the techniques used by dollhouse makers aren't very useful for gaming terrain, as the differences in scale usually mean what works for one won't necessarily work for another, but at the time I was curious if this was something that could work well at any scale. I never got around to trying it for myself, but your video really makes me want to.
I would love to see this technique become a regular tool in your arsenal, perhaps in the form of budget build challenges where you attempt to make set pieces cheaply with as many scavenged/recycled materials as possible.
For those packing trays, you can give them a good wash with soapy water and if you're not using a heated cycle on your dishwasher, put it through there.
awesome idea! I also find McDonald's drink carriers work too!!!
🚲 I'll get four coffees next time.
This is a great idea, and a much Greener approach to the hobby.
This is brilliant, thanks. For my purposes, this actually is better, because I reuse and upcycle junk as much as possible just as a matter of principle.
YES! Miniac colab. Totally awesome. I’d love to see you guys work on something together.... like you build something and he paints it.
As always, great video.
Btw... almost at that 100k mark. Get your wall ready for that RUclips plaque.
Nice to see crafters supporting each other... :)
Omg you are a lifesaver, I can't find foam anywhere locally for anywhere near a reasonable price!
I have just finished building my foam cutter (God bless the king of random) and bought some xps from another town. Well, it's always nice have some alternative. Gonna test it sometime.
This technique blows my mind! My main material was foam from packaging. But I have a lot of paper in my house. In Brazil eggs are sold in paper's packs with 30 units.
I'm using this material/technique to build my mausoleum for Frostgrave. Thanks for your quality content, very inspiring.
My new video series of dungeon tiles is built on egg carton texture :) It's not the key ingredient, but great minds think alike.
I've been using egg boxes for some time now. Even writing magazine articles featuring the card. A first class and easily sourced product.
Like you I prefer the rough side out.
Keep up the great work.
Tony Harwood
I was just thinking about trying something with paper egg cartons! Thank you!
I was a bit skeptical at first because I love my xps as well but DAMN those bricks came out super well, especially with the texture already on them.Great vid!
Thanks for the wonderful idea. I face the same problem in getting my hand on the extruded polystyrene
That looks brilliant. I love it, and it's certainly easily available!
IMHO the texture is superior to foam(with no extra prep I might add) for stone and brick. Nice job
I live in a smallish appartment and I found that XPS foam and Proxon tables require a crap ton of space to work. Instead, I use EVA foam. I buy mine at Dollarama (Yay, Canada!). You pay $4 for about four square feet of the stuff. Easily workable and cuttable and it takes spary paint very well!!
Those bricks/pavers look really nice, I bet you could make some nice bases too
You can also get thin foam out of ceiling tiles. They are dirt cheap and ready to use. Basically foam board without paper layers. Check your local hardware store.
Dude, I loved this. I like just watching your videos, because I think what you do is cool, and I don't actually build, but I think I might have to try this with my kids and have them make things like towers for their Hero Kids game. This was awesome!
Great idea. I often look in my recycling bin and think, "What can I craft with that?" Also, yay for the Scott cameo!
There's obviously foamboard, it's thin, it's easy to cut, and it's pee textured if you take the sheeting off. But I've also found a good alternative that works wonders. Pringles cans. Cut off the rings at the top and bottom and unroll one. It gives you a good foot of material to work with. It bonds easy to other materials and is already just 1 long spiral strip so if you flatten it with light heat, like weights and a blowdrier, it's just a long flat strip to work with as you please.
Glad to see you went out of your comfort zone. Revisiting the core of the craft and using cheap/ free throw away items. I really hope you do something soon with Styrofoam take out type food containers. You rock!
Grateful for this as I have just gotten into this craft, but heard cutting xps causes dust.
I already have enough breathing problems due to lack of ventilation in my flat so have made the decision to stick with card!
Your channel has become my new favorite thing. I’ve never really been one to subscribe to channels and actively watch for their new videos to drop and watch the content all the way though. (God I sound terrible) but your videos have really helped me accomplish something I’ve wanted to try for a long time. I cosplay so crafting isn’t new to me. But the realm of foam has been daunting since it’s so expensive. Large projects = large money. So I tasked myself with making the dice roller tower in one of your other videos and I’m working on it right now. I’m having a blast and can’t wait to get more miniatures going for my table top games! Thank youuuu!
I love Miniac so much and your channel fully fills my creative needs, my ideas pour out of my brain after watching your videos
Awesome video. I've used pet store aquarium rocks and dollar store decorative rocks and sand for buildings. It's really nice because it also weighs the piece down.
Thank you! That is a real gamechanger for me!
dollhouse enthusiasts love using cartons for patios
A good place to check for those foam trays and other potential crafting materials is your local food salvage/freight store. Just google "food salvage stores near me" if you don't know what I'm talking about. I've purchased those trays and several other paper/plastic/foam goodies from my local freight store.
Just tried this for the first time on a stonework base. It worked out great. Thanks for the idea!
Really interesting alternative. The wetting it and molding around a curved surface was a property I never thought of!
Thank you. I just finished the stone golem. I will try to send you a picture.
Again I thank you. I don't have the space or the money to get the foam but I do eat a lot of eggs.
Fantastic! I think this works perfectly for builds where you just see the face of the wall, like the exterior of an intact building. I'd still use foam or something else 3-D for builds like ruins or stone fences where you see multiple sides of the bricks.
Definitely gonna try this out on my next project! You've provided me with so much knowledge in this hobby, thank you!
Well, I'm sold. I was wracking my brain how to make foam boards thinner.... This solves it. Gonna mix foam board and egg cartons.. for the next project.
Such gorgeous texture built-in to a thin medium!This is EXACTLY the ticket I needed for the facing on the stairs I'm building, a timely thank you once again! ;)
Cool seeing you two guys in a video!
This is great. You can use those hot drinks cups in much the same way too.
E-coli, adds a new level to table top gaming!!
This was extremely helpful :) I’m living abroad and don’t have access to my normal building materials for my miniatures, so I’m going to give egg cartons a try! Also your message near the end inspired me to just go for it and build something using what I have :) thank you!
Its the crossover episode we all have been waiting for! Awesome!
So what I got from this video is that when you don't have xps foam you have Miniac scream to the heavens for you.
Dude at the start is big mood watching these videos as a beginner tho
Take it from someone that uses this technique a lot. Paint the paper with pva before you flat-black them. It'll keep all the texture but lose the fuzzy-wisps on the edges. Bricks don't have little hairs sticking off em. I've also heard of people burning the edges to remove them. I'm sure that works too, but I'd worry about burning things that regularly.
There is actually a website that sells empty egg cartons. Wasn’t expecting that but not entirely surprised lol. Great video and will definitely be trying this medium in a future project.
Love this video! I think that being unconventional when it comes to building is something the amateurs shouldn't shy away from.
That really does look great! Wonderful idea.
A very interesting episode. I tend to think of you as "the guy who builds stuff from foam" but, suddenly, a whole range of new possibilities.☺ The texture on that stuff seems to be perfect for stone. I just watched the stone arch bridge build and I'd love to see that done again, using the eggboxes. It could look great alongside the rolling-pin road surface.
Cheers,
Dougie.
Very Nice Info, I have some items before this video of the use of egg cartons, in which if it works I too will share it once I figure out how to do this RUclips stuff!!! Thanks For Sharing man!! WOOP WOOP!!!
I used an egg carton for the floor of a Frankensteins lab diorama a few months ago. So simple, cheap and it looks surprisingly good!
Can you start a series that tests different materials for stuff like this and dungeon tiles? Love the channel by the way
What a great solution... I may have to give this a go.
This is an awesome idea and I was saving a bunch of these egg cartons for other projects, that I never got around to. Thank you for this idea.
The texture on the stones looks amazing!
Solid video man! I'm a long time fan of the channel and I really love these kinds of cheaper alternative builds or dollar store ones. Keep it up!
This looks like it is a great alternative for round pieces or tight corners where foam could be bulky and difficult to maneuver. Thanks for the quality content :D
Fast food drink carry out trays work well also.
got fired from Walmart before xmas. But because of your videos, I been getting back into making terrain to sale. now I got some commissions coming in for a couple of HO train terrain. T_T I don't have to look for a job because of you. also thanks to you and a few others i watch i'm getting back into youtube.
the only downside is now I've been in terrain building mod. I look at stuff and say to my self "can i turn that into terrain."
This is the story of my life. I'm always saving random things to build terrain from. Last year, I bought a 3D printer, too. Now I also say, "I could print that" when I see something cool.