MTB Coach talk through - Loris Vergier Vs Jackson Goldstone - Val Di Sole 2023
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- A quick look at Jackson Goldstones 2023 Val Di Sole World Cup run with a focus on technique along with a comparison to Loris Vergier in line choice.
Good points there! I think in the 2nd clip Jackson hit the turn so fast he lost grip on the rear and that's why he got a little bit off balance, which caused his left foot to unclip. Not the other way around.
Anyway, what a run. The way he made a rhythm section of that rock garden was so cool.
yeah - I was also thinking that as I rewatched.... he may have deliberately took his foot off after he lost the back end. Thanks for commenting..... 👍🏼
@@NextLevelRiding It's crazy how easy they make that track look, been there a couple of times and it's so steep all the way.
I'm a coach and a rider too myself, really interested in these things. Keep on the good work! Subbed😊
@@ollialanko699 yes it sure is - they are certainly at the top of their game! I've never made it out to a World Cup track yet, hoping to make it out to one next year. Would be so good to see it up close and personal. I've watched the EWS on 1199 in whistler and the speeds were unbelievable there, so somewhere like leogang would be sick. Thanks for the sub, I''ll make some more posts on races as they come. Cheers and happy coaching!
Love the breakdown! Keep ‘em coming
Cheers Keegan - will do. Thanks 😉
luv the breakdown, more please and thank you
sure will - thanks for commenting,
Loved this so much. ❤
thank you - it's my most watched video and I've been meaning to do more - just haven't! thanks for the comment! 🤗
Really good watch, keep them coming !
Thanks! 🤙🏼
Just got into watching DH racing this year. Nice to watch this to get a better idea of what the racers are doing right and wrong. Thanks for doing this!
Hi Greg - that's awesome that you enjoyed the video. I love breaking it down. Sometimes it's hard to find much wrong with them because at the end of the day they are world class. But it's fun to break it apart. Thanks for the comment. Watching DH is so exciting. Enjoy the world champs this coming weekend!
This is so good. I was waiting for your next install after the Jordan's one and very happy to see this on the notifications list since I'm a Loris fan.
Keep them coming, this is great for people like me who just got into DH. Learning a lot about position, etc.
@@robertocalvo934 thanks Robert - I had another video prepared from the previous race but didnt get around to uploading it intake. The races were so close together - happy to have got this one up - lets hope fort William will give us some gold this weekend.
Awesomeness more please ❤
thanks Steve! Will do. 👍🏼
Great analysis! Jackson’s super power is that he can screw up and then seamlessly recover with very minimal penalties. Seems like many other riders bobble then recover less smoothly killing their momentum. He’s small and light which allows him to float over so many obstacles- can you compare his style to other riders like Greg Minnaar? I thought the conventional wisdom was that you needed some mass to quickly pick up speed - small riders would have a harder time, but this definitely doesn’t apply to Jackson. Thx!!
it sure is a super power! hahah. Strong but light seems to be working out for him. Plus growing-up in Squamish has it's benefits.
Just did this channel for the first time today and love this analysis. Can’t say I’ve found anyone else who does it like this so thank you. Always wondered about the knee sticking out on turns out over bumps with DH and Enduro riders. Seems a thing clipless riders can do. Hard to replicate on flats although when I apply pressure with my feet to more of the outside of the pedals I find it is similar. Thoughts?
thanks for the comment. I'd say it's less about the "knee sticking out" and more about rotating the entire body to face the exit of the turn. This involves the movement of both knees towards the same direction, so the knee on the outside of the corner comes towards the frame, the knee on the inside of the corner comes away from the bike, but then you lay the bike over towards that newly opened up knee and weight the outside bar. It all happens in one fluid movement, including the head turning, the shoulders turn and the hips turn all together to face the exit. Too much to teach in a comment on RUclips and takes multiple in person lessons for this kinda stuff to click. All totally possible regardless of pedals.You have to loosen up the knees and ankles. 😉 have fun.
I love the work here Allen and you have some great points . I must say with all due respect, I think Jackson's cornering is actually beyond what most MTBers can understand about carving. If you watch carving disciplines such as snowboarding, skiing and even water skiing, there is moment of 100% commitment to the turn that defies the technique involved in the actual change of direction. Jackson is hurling his body into the fall line and is depending on the carving tool (his bike) to catch his weight and change his direction. He does this better than most that have ever ridden an mtb. He's actually beyond what 99% of the biking world can do or even understand from a traditional MTB stand point; him and a few others are tapped into another level that will redefine cornering a MTB at the highest level. Just my two cents and I hope you don't my HO. Please keep these coming, you have a great eye for it.
Yo Vance! Thanks for the comment..... Where did you get Eric from!?! Haha. Anyway - yeah man Jackson has a lot of skill for sure and is natural on a bike, his light weight helps him get away with a lot of things that heavier riders wouldn't. I do still see some opportunities for him to develop and grow in terms of his body placement when it comes to "recognized technique". But i am sure he's got a very bright future ahead and with only his first elite year under him he has so much more to show and learn.
lol, I really should proof read better. @@NextLevelRiding
Jackson’s body position through the rocks is so much more composed than Loris’s.
totally.
Really nice video right here, keep it up!💪
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Not sure if those upper corners are representative of his riding style, it seems like he’s a bit overly eager there and manages to calm down when entering the woody sections.
Keep in mind he’s still a young kid perfecting his racecraft..
yeah definitely. He's got an amazing career ahead of him. I
Talking taichi on thebike 🎉❤
Kiss the bar, arm straight, free butt.
2:02 min he is swinging inside because the rear wheel drifted out and you have to restable it with repositioning your body. So for me its nice to see how fast he is doing this.
yeah you might be right there - there's a little bit of both occurring maybe. Maybe came in a little wrongly weighted and then as the back kicked out; it was his bike moving out from under him. The quick unclip might be intentional to save it, which he didnt need to do in the end thankfully. I still feel that he was setting up with his weight too inside which contributed somewhat to the tire skipping. He's clearly riding on the edge of risk. Thanks for your comment - much appreciated. 👍🏼
@@NextLevelRiding yes that could be the reason why his backwheel slipped 👌 youre welcome 😃
@@chjael7528 enjoy fort William! 👍🏼
Oh god Goldstone just SLAPPED that.
I couldn't stomach watching the constant pausing, and the subsequent criticism of Goldstone essentially destroying this track. From the couple minutes I did make it through, I learned this - technique isn't the be all, end all, when you ride like, and put up numbers like Goldstone did in that run.
That's ok man. You don't have to watch it. Lot's of other folk really liked the video and that's awesome! I'm stoked I helped a few people understand something about technique. Goldstone is an amazing rider and clearly has what it takes to be the best n the world. There is always an opportunity to learn from the pros. Sometimes brute strength and reaction time will get you through, yes, but as Jackson grows, his technique will become refined and he'll be winning more world cups but with less risk involved. Jackson is already a legend in the sport and as you would have heard if you'd have been able to stomach watching the entire video - we will be seeing a lot more of Jackson. I am a huge fan of Jackson and watching him ride infant of Fin isles in a video from last year on Fins channel ( watch it here its amazing - ruclips.net/video/Yjcf6tagB1k/видео.html ), is the most exciting and skilled riding I've ever seen. Thanks for taking the time to comment, and reflect back to me the criticism that you couldn't stomach yourself. Feedback is always welcome. 😁👍🏼
Those races shouls be all in one down, motorcycles are 3 times heavier and faster and they start all at the same time.
no way lad.... although check out the mega-avalanche if you want to see one of the best mass starts in MTB.
The presentation of the content isn't interesting enough to warrant the frequency of ads.
do I have any say in the frequency of ads? I certainly don't earn any money from RUclips!
I like the part where you told us that the fastest man in the world right now doesn’t have good technique. Maybe you could race against him and show us.
Hahah - yeah right! I'm sure you'll find there isn't one team coach out there that could beat Jackson. Know your job and stick to it. Even the pros get coaching and training, that's why they have a team coach and a personal trainer. Someone to help them grow and develop. Jackson even said, that he made a lot of mistakes in that run. But I guess so did a lot of other riders, so he got lucky. He has what it takes to win the season. I on the other hand would likely take more than twice the time to get down a track and likely I'd skip a few features too. I'm comfortable owning that. If I was giving the feedback directly to Jackson, I would approach it differently for sure. But admittedly, I'm no Steve Peat. thanks for watching. 🙏🏻