Time to go Autotesting - Alwoodley Event report in the Mini
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The first event report on the channel of an Autotest in the Mini, wathc the trials and tribulations of trying to keep the Mini whilst also kicking it's ass round the track.
Lots of thanks to Alwoodley Motor Club for putting on the event and to Phil and Chris Chapman for some camera work and the thumbnail picture.
If you're interested in Autotesting or other grassroots motorsport in the UK then www.btrda.co.uk is a great place to start... 
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"x" on the trailer, no kids, no wife - That's the recipe! 😁
It’s been a rare event recently! Hopefully it’s all back to normal soon!
Wow this looked fun! I'd love to have a go at this!
Great video! Thank you for the rules breakdown!
Lovely Event report.
Drive-by-wire would be perfect for the Go fast on Low budget. I hope you'll make a video about the Gearbox setup and repairs.
Drive by wire is my preferred (could you tell?). A gearbox explainer is on the list but the next event is next Sunday, I’ll see if we can bang out a quick vid!
@@MakingforMotorsport Great to know
Coming from the USA this auto test stuff is so wierd. Looks like a fun event though!
The lever arm adapter device probably fits in best with the theme of the channel but drive by wire would be cool as hell. I'm down to watch either.
Just waiting to get into my first Autosolo since the pandemic. Been a while since doing an Autotest. Remember having to pin the route to the dash so I didn’t get too lost. Great video and insane what the drivers can get their cars to do. Such a horrid feeling when a nicely going test gets messed up by a penalty.
Autosolos are a good giggle, I am thinking about getting a road going project car… autosolos would be perfect for that!
Brilliant Video Dave gives people a in depth explanation of what Autotesting is. Professionally put across from your self 👏🏻
You know your going fly by wire much more interesting 🧐 More please
Hello! Fancy seeing you here! 😂👍. Thanks Lee, I enjoyed doing this one, especially the slo-mo!
The Fly-by-Wire is on the list but not quite yet, I’ve got a long list of stuff to do over the winter which should keep me busy! And funnily enough it’ll all be on the channel! 👍
Can’t wait for next season already! 🚗🚗🚗🏆🏆🏆
Great video miss the UK in the summer. Enjoyed watching you put the mini through its paces. I'm stuck at home with a broken leg in winter in New Zealand. 😊 Keep up the good work.
Good to have an event report, keeps it real. Keep doing it, showing us your improvements and progress!
I'm gonna do one every so often, and hopefully there are some improvements to show!
Love the in-depth video, i'm in the US and we don't have anything like autotesting here so its great to get an idea of how it actually is to compete. Probably need to call it competitive gymkhana and get a Monster Energy sponsorship to bring it over here.
Love the report. Keep them coming. Always fascinating to see the hard work pay off. Drive by wire would be interesting.
Cheers bud, I will be doing more year....
I have a i6 motor I’m going to start playing with. Plenum is trash and has JB weld all over…I also have a couple aviation/motorcycle carbs…Thank you for giving me a start light years ahead of a daft start
Sounds like it’s gonna be a Frankenstein creation… I love it!
@@MakingforMotorsport Harley Davidson carbs from 30+ years ago. Trucks 30 years old. Looked the carbs up and they happen to originally be taken off an airplane. From your videos I can port the lower section of plenum to match. I was going to put a hood scoop in for tunneled ram air intake. Local machinist told me it’s impossible. It’s obvious it is not. Going to do a bit of research into old plane motors.
Great video mate, all content is good, variety is the spice and all that. I would likely change the leverage of the linkage, but yeah a DBW throttle actuation would make a good vid 👍🏼
Cheers buddy… yeah that project is on the list… problem is the list keeps getting longer! 🙈😂
Great video! Go drive by wire, of course
Good man! At the moment DBW is taking 100% of the vote!
Speeduino driven DBW conversion would be very entertaining to see/learn about! Would also love to see a breakdown of how to decipher a datalog, and was types of changes you can effect from that data. Love the channel, thanks!
Thanks Graham… DBW is being planned now and reading data logs will come with the next event - hopefully! 🤞
Great report and a brill insight! A shame you weren't up with that pretty green one like normal ;) ps. we discussed drive by wire as an option once to get more control. Definitely an interesting option!
I dunno, I preferred the red one… it wasn’t as quick!
Well done. Keep her lite. Fly by wire
Cheers buddy! FBW is definitely in the lead so far!
@@MakingforMotorsport did the mega squirt thing years ago put tmgrs200 into RUclips you see it harvest rally restore that me
Sorry tmgrs2000 into RUclips
Ahhh, the knobbed steering wheel, now that would seem to make quick turns easier so long as you were used to those. I've seen very few my life time in cars in the US, but earlier in your slowmo footage, I was like, WOW, this is stunt driver 101 with all the sharp turns forward and reverse.
Edit: I think showing the weekend racing stuff is great! I don't know if you're familiar with the recent changes in the EPA here in the US, and that pretty much the tinkering of any race converted vehicle is now deemed illegal (if the vehicle weren't purely race breed, hence if it has a VIN it's considered illegal) to modify.
In the recourse of these new found teeth given to the US EPA, SEMA had come up with the RPM act which is suppose to help preserve some of the things that makes motorsports possible to the average Joe.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but I feel like many tuner, and race mod based channels here could be doing that whole community a favor by showing more trailered weekend racing, less street driven performance.
Drive-by-wire, I'm interested to see how or what can be done with this in TS with the Speeduino.
You're absolutely right about Stunt driving 101, we've got several stunt drivers and also more general stunt performers also complete...
I've heard about the RPM vs EPA and it sounds like a really shit do and the RPM act seems like a halfway house with street based guys going under the bus to save professional motorsports, although its just tuning houses being targeted at the moment with action.
If that's the way it's going then I think you're right, dedicated motorsports would be the way for people to go, but some people just aren't competitive, or can't afford a dedicate car with the trailer, tow car and space you need.... I've not got an answer, just seems a shame that the US, a "small" government low regulation country is going for the big stick approach.
It’s good to see the fruits of your labours, so the occasional event report would be good.
As for the throttle pedal/ratio, DBW FTW!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! It won't be every event, I'd never get anything else done! Drive by Wire is definitely the winner on this poll.... planning it right now!
Bravooo! You really let your brain works, the idea to flat the curve on iat has been sweet, loved it! try to see if you can select other type of air sensor on tool bar, maybe there is another scale. I'm heaving trouble because can't set properly my iat scale, 3.3% volumetric change by every 10° celsius should be ideal starting from 25° as 100%, but i need to go around 5% and this shows a problem in my case. Anyway, do you have the possibility to attach a hose under or on top of every throttle body? you could create a sort of mini hose manifol to read the pressure bypassing alphan method. I'm really sorry for gearbox issue! Good luck mate! keep racing!!!
Thanks! I can always come up with a work around! I didn’t say it on the video but i think the sensor itself is fine as it was reading values and changing so I think calibration is the issue, which I tried the other calibrations and none worked so I just wanted to get it going….
I already have that setup for MAP, but I don’t use it, I’ve not spent much time mapping but I just can’t get the same throttle response from SD as I do with AlphaN.
@@MakingforMotorsport I don't know if you tested with Acell enrichment, try to put crazy value like 100 adder(no percentage) value on minum throttle response and other 4 values too, it worked once for me , now it's a bit lower around 25 but just over a certain point in acceleration speed, of course MAP sensor enabled
please make a tutorial video on how to drive like that :)
I've said it before, but as a motorkhana competitor, your course maps make my eyes go like dinner plates. We don't do reversing, which probably explains how I can do half decent
Love the event report. Good to see how the hard work pays off, even with the gearbox drama. Interested to see if DBW is the way you go and how you get it all to work
Yeah, learning the tests as much a skill to learn as the driving is, but with experience it gets easier… DBW is definitely the popular vote so I’m gonna give it a go👍
@@MakingforMotorsport nice. Keen to see how you can get DBW to work on the cheap and how you can fiddle around with the different settings and calibration
I've just been printing my first test brackets on my ender 3 to get closer to doing my Micra engine swap. Got to get the belt tensioning system figured out after I got rid of the A/C and power steering pumps. Have you got Corsa column power steering on the mini?
Could you explain what kind of mods you've done in the gearbox? I'm very curious! 😊 it looks like 1 gear and reverse synchronized !
I have no idea how you remember the course!! Great content! Go for DBW that’d give you a load of options on programming etc it’d mean more potential content too
Dido, I tried to understand the map and ledger.. I know I would be penalized left and right lol.
Learning the tests just clicks into place after a few events, it just becomes easy. DBW is definitely winning this competition and I'm looking forward to playing with it...
First time seeing it, so fun to watch but too complicated to me, give me an entire day to train and will still miss every corner haha
Would be nice to see the results on track after some bigger changes, or repairs... F for gearbox.
Yeah, gearbox was definitely a fail...and the sad thing is the results should be better with me just getting my head in gear.... event this weekend, we'll see....
I made it! Ignore my last comment in a different video
Dbw isn't supported by speeduino, there are of course solutions for it, but maybe not as neat and integrated. The throttle travel should be easily solved with mechanical linkage, even if its the less techy way. :)
Yeah... it's not a hard fix with a spare pedal but.....with DBW I can also do lovely things like non-linear responses.
@@MakingforMotorsport non linear response is very easy to do with a throttle cam with a certain shape, could be fun to print aswell. I worked a bit with the throttle cam on my dirt bike to Taylor the throttle opening respons to my needs, was thinking of printing one instead of modifying the standard plastic one aswell.
Yeah, that’s exactly what is thinking with a mechanical version, have 2 different throttle cable cams on a common shaft, one driven by the pedal the other connected to the ITBs, and 3d printing is perfect for it… but being to swap to different profiles at the touch of a button??? Very handy!
Fun! I need to get a toy...
The problem is…. One toy is never enough….
I’m torn! Drive by wire sounds way cooler and more interesting but the simple easy fix is just to adjust cable attachment on your pedal … can’t wait to see what route you take.
I know what you mean, but cool and interesting definitely win out over simple and easy.... I think its gotta be DBW....
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that was cool
Cheers buddy… keeps me out of trouble! 👍
Are you using hydro or cable handbrake? Also, are the cars equipped with LSD’s or are they running open diffs?
Most cars run hydro handbrakes, I still just cable as it does the job…
All these cars run an LSD of some kind, all RWD run a traditional plated diff and FWD use a Quaife ATB, a plate diff in FWD tends to do weird things In reverse….
Last century. we called it Motorkhana
Sorry dude, Autotesting's been at it since the 60s (so have some of my competition!)
Drive by wire does have its benefits, if you can integrate wheel speed sensors you can you it control the throttle based on traction. Again something that takes a lot of playing with and learning.
Traction control is an interesting prospect, not so much for this sport as sometimes I do need to light them up… but mega power rwd….
How do yoy think of going drive by wire? I'd like to see that happen.
I’ve got most of it planned out in my head… next job on the project list!
was this Ray sissins old car
I bought it from Nick Darkin, and it was Paddy’s before him. Not sure who had it before then…
It would appear you may need help from Nik Blackhurst and Richard Brunning of Bad Obsession Motorsports.
More 👍👍 events I’m x club champion ,mini and escort
Escort??? Which one?
How are the ApolloX trumpets holding up?
Haven't done them as yet.... but I have plenty of other ApolloX under the hood and it's all fine so I've got no doubts at all....
@@MakingforMotorsport that’s awesome I finally printed my CF nylon versions but not super happy with the results so far. The Prints came out great but CF nylon has almost a suede like texture to it which for certain things would feel great but obviously not for an intake system. Did some sanding and painting to attempt to smooth them out but honestly not super happy with how the have come along so far. Currently waiting for them to cure more so I can wet sand and hopefully that will give me smoothness I was looking for.
@@biggboysouth I wouldn’t get too hung up on surface finish, obviously you want no protrusions but because of boundary layers the air closest to the wall doesn’t actually move, so you’re not loosing much with a slightly rough surface. There is also a school of thought that you’re best off with a rough surface as this gives slight turbulence above the boundary layer next to the walls, this is good as it stops fuel dropping out of suspension and forming droplets (less of a problem in trumpets tho!)
If you are gonna sand then just to do it wet or wear a mask… you don’t wanna be breathing carbon fibre….
@@MakingforMotorsport Thanks and yes definitely plan on wearing a mask. Honestly kinda kicking my self as doing a little research I came across a product called XTC 3D which is a clear epoxy for 3d prints that seems to do a great job giving prints a glassy smooth finish. Not sure how it would hold up to heat just yet (still looking into it) but being epoxy most tend to do well in moderately hot applications. Also has a very fast cure time of 2 hours or less with a heat source. Maybe something worth looking into?
@@MakingforMotorsport Ok I know you didn't ask but wanted to drop this info off anyways lol. Called manufacturer of XTC 3D and they told me that it is not suitable for anything above 130 degree F but that they do sell two other coating products that are suitable up to 300 degree F. Links:
www.smooth-on.com/products/epoxacoat-ht/
www.smooth-on.com/products/epoxamite-ht/
Rep mentioned the first link will have a slightly harder finish in the end and is what he recommended me but also mentioned the other is very similar.
Two small dbw throttle bodys?
There is a twin dbw controller for like 100£ on the market or make your self.
Hmmm, that seems like a bargain…. Can drop a clue to point me in the right direction? Don’t post a link as it’ll be deleted…
@@MakingforMotorsport I'd also like to know where I can find this 🤣
@@MakingforMotorsport You could look for some Yamaha R1/R6 bodies.
ruclips.net/video/VrzLjYuqooA/видео.html
They seem priced reasonable $100 or so, you just need to control the motor (Speeduino has support for a stepper controller).
DRIVE
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You can drive a stick with a phone and laptop in your lap 😂
Off road only 😄👌🤹♀️
@@MakingforMotorsport I just learned to properly drive a manual and that was Gid Tier to me lmao