Talking about zoom meetings, I was on one recently with some old friends, as we all started to join 1 friend (D) who is super conscious about her appearance since an accident, simply had here camera pointed at her assistant dog. We all had a great laugh as we tended to start talking to her dog ‘Bono’ than her. She got peeved, some of us pulled out teddy bears, pets, and even one person decided to show his wife’s flower vase (she’s a florist). We all had a good laugh and D was more comfortable. She decided that next catch-up we needed to find our earliest pics of ourselves. Hopefully she’ll feel better and regain the confidence she once had. A long process, I know, but that’s what bought us all back together after so many years.
@@jordanthegenderthief yeah they are the best. We all met in one of my early jobs, we drifted and life changed for all of us, but over the past few years, circumstances, not just D, has bought us all back into contact. It’s amazing that after so many years we all still get on and talk like ‘a bunch of old women’.
I’m a teacher. We are doing a mix of in person and virtual. The SCHOOL requests all students have their cameras on. For those complaining, it is so we can see that the student is there and doing the work. When we cannot see the student, we don’t know if they didn’t just log in and walk away. Plus, my school discovered that having students mute kept the classes less distracting, so how do I know anyone is there. Now, I don’t bother fighting to get cameras on. It takes so long to get all the cameras on that I would never get my class going if I wasted that time. I know my students leave their devices. Most students exit as soon as I say “well, class is over for today” boom mass exodus, but I tend to get one per class who is sitting there. I know they logged in and wandered off. It isn’t hard to figure that out when they were there for the lesson but were the only one who did not turn in the assignment. Personally, I do not want to make cameras mandatory for a couple reasons, one, I grew up with friends who were ashamed of their homes. We were never invited over, but I knew it was because they were poor and their homes were...not nice. Secondary, I know that too many cameras can cause audio issues, so I rather my camera being the only one.
It's the same at my school and in my virtual classes; students are mandated to have cameras on during assessments, but that's hit or miss at best. I can always tell who left because I give notes and exit tickets on what is exactly on my quizzes, those who fail missed the exit tickets.
@@Houleigan there was one guy who didn’t have his camera on so first they give you a warning then they give you a detention for the days you have to go back to school
Op number one literally just got his wife a private room just by maliciously complying props my man Edit: didn't notice the autocorrect till like 5 months later lol
The way he told that story was sly too, leaving that little tidbit to the end, but foreshadowing it with comments like "she didn't complain at all" and "you'll help with the move", along with "we looked at the room and laughed." Great twist, but easy to miss.
If you pay attention to the story, Shirley's boss was the real problem. Shirley just learned what she needed to do to survive under her boss. But when her boss was finally fired, she hadn't learned how to survive in any other way. Buh bye!
11:30 my mum (a teacher) was like this in the COVID lockdowns - she would insist on people having their cameras on. THERE IS A REASON, the school she taught at was for the elite, the richest of the rich. If the kids had their cameras off (maybe not paying attention) and their grades dropped significantly enough, teachers can get reprimanded or even fired. Also, at this school parents have a lot of weight, so if they feel their kids aren’t learning enough things can get messy real fast. Just wanted to say that sometimes the teacher do have a reason for doing things like this, and you shouldn’t attack them over these things
@@grandadmiralmanatee Not if you're in class. You need the camera to be ON so the teacher can see that you are actually in class. Just as though you were in person. You can't show up then disappear for 99% of the class time.
Whoever needs to hear this today: "If it's time you enjoyed wasting, then it's not wasted time." Go do that thing, take that class, learn that skill, see that person, just give yourself permission to HAVE FUN! It is necessary to have a healthy lifestyle!
In English it is called "sharpening the saw" because "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." So successful people have known this for a long time.
As a teacher I feel for the teacher in the story about the cameras. I'm an introvert myself and working online via zoom was HELL in the beginning, I hated it. Like the teacher said, you'll get used to it, though, and it's a good "skill" to have, as more meetings are likely to be online in the future, both because of helat risks and environmental issues. Teaching a class where you can't see anyone is horrible too, though. You can't see those nods or smiles, or the confusion for that matter that are clues to if the students have understood or need more help. I teach adults (Teaching a second language to refugees/immigrants) , and I never force people to have their cameras on, but I encourage it, especially for group discussions and such, but I've now had classes where I wouldn't recognize my students if i met them, because I BARELY see them. Then there's the other issue, with cheating. During tests the cameras must be on the whole time, but of course students can cheat anyway, and that leads to a whole new hell to me as a teacher, because my job and pride in my job is on the line... if a students get "sent up" to a more advanced class due to cheating, that student will also most likely crash and burn in that class, and I'd get questioned on how I could let a poor student pass. So yeah, this is not fun for us teachers either, we just all have to do what we can to get through this... talk to your teachers, ask about when how and why to keep the cameras on... to say hi and goodbye, for example, that would be nice... and during assignments/tests where cheating can be an issue... when I have lectures /show power points I can't see the students anyway, so then there's no point in cameras... if you just word it in a reasonable way I'm sure most us us would listen and compromise... in many cases it's also not the teachers who set those rules, they might very well come from the school administration and then there's a pressure on the teacher to follow the rules...
@@msreduxI agree. I also feel uncomfortable with being on camera, but I understand that there’s literally no other choice. It’s a difficult time for everyone and the teachers are just trying to do their jobs. They should just suck it up and turn on the camera.......
Same. Beeing seen and speaking in a group of people is an essential life skill and running away from it forever will only get you deeper into insecurities and paranoia. The more you do it the easier it becomes. What kind of future does this person want - one where they are unable to face social situations because they never tried to get out of their comfort zone, or one where they have the confidence they can deal with anything because theyve already pushed themselves and proved rhey can do it?
@@bunnys9704 No they want a future where people have privacy in their own home. This isn't the classroom it's their home, you have no right to demand to be allowed into it.
25% for not turning a camera on?!? My sister was late doing a final in college and had to BEG her teacher to reopen it so she could do it proper and she didn't lose that many--if any--points; even though she expected to lose a full letter grade. OP's teacher is insane with that.
(got a bit ranty towards the end, this is also just imo) To be fair, there is an extension that some teachers run for attendance that relies on your camera being turned on and some systems require cameras to be on (I know OP's doesn't). I don't think anyone particularly likes it, in fact a lot of people, myself included, feel a bit anxious about it. That's not really a good reason to do something that could trigger someone with photosensitive seizure, sensory processing issues, etc.I would rather feel paranoid and uncomfortable than make another person suffer through a significant medical event. I think 25 points is a bit much of course, but OP knew what the teacher expected and should have immediately spoken with admin about reasonable accommodation since the principal is clearly supportive of allowing cameras to be off. I just can't completely support doing something that could put other people in danger and not taking appropriate steps or trying to make a work around first. OP needs to talk to someone, not make life harder for the teachers who are already working double time to create an effective learning environment with very little prep. Rant over, sorry
Happy New Years! Not for my fire department though. We woke up to call being asked to help another department with a 10-50 (Automobile Accident) Only we couldn’t find the car, and they sent us all home. It’s sickening to think that someone is flipped upside down in their vehicle, and we couldn’t help them. It feels terrible but there’s only so much that can be done. Rslash I watched your video after I got home. Made me feel better, your videos bring me laughter because I LOVE your entitled voice. It’s funny as hell. Everyone have a good day and PLEASE, be safe on the road, remember to wear your seatbelt, and when the roads become icy, or during bad conditions, be cautious. So sorry, within minutes of writing this, dispatch confirmed that the original caller messed up the details, and it was within a different department’s jurisdiction. I’m thanking the Lord above that, it’s not that we couldn’t help someone, it’s that they weren’t in our area to begin with. But the above message stands, be safe on the roads.
The camera on really is a way for the teacher to know that the student is participating though. Since it's not face to face, teachers have a harder time seeing expressions and tells and actually seeing that you're not working to reprimand you. Students can (and have) signed on and left to do other stuff then come back at end of class time and leave. This might be caught with a smaller class but when you got thirty kids, it's harder to identify. Personally the whole privacy thing isn't a concern where I am in terms of the camera... it's the fact that our internet connection might not be strong enough to handle being in a zoom meeting WITH a camera on so teachers let the 'no cameras' thing slide for that reason. Plus work is submitted elsewhere so the teachers can know who is REALLY participating.
Its privacy. if you study at home and not at the place which they assigned for you then you shouldnt have to turn it on . Imagine having PC in the living room, in backdround rest of your familly watching TV, maybe wearing nothing but underwear or something. Nah. No one can invade my home.
It'd be better if it was like a college. If you don't want it, fine by the teachers. If you want it, you can enjoy comfort while everyone who can distract you, and everyone else, has left.
@@abhabh6896 They have backgrounds for that and they suggest having a wall or putting up a blanket behind you. ...Why are you in class with your family behind you watching TV? Wouldn't that be distracting for you???
Gotta say, there's no NEED for a teacher to see the students. Especially in something like an English class that's assignment-based. If the student isn't engaged in the class, it would show in their work. Insisting on a camera being on, after the student said it made them uncomfortable, is just a power trip. It's not a performing arts class. By the time I finished my schooling (in 2014), most of my classes were all online. Participation was graded on responses to weekly discussion posts. I never once saw the teacher's or any of my classmates' face.
@@abhabh6896 ever used zoom? I've been working from home spending 6hrs minimum on zoom calls with customers. You can EASILY hide everything in the background. Or just reposition the computer. And hate to break it to people... Your wall isn't very interesting and people (the posters actual mentioned concern) can look at you in class anyway.
As a teacher, I can relate to the Zoom meeting story. I wanted to see my kids faces too when we had on line lessons. I asked, they complied. If any had given me a reasonable excuse not to, I would like to think I would have listened. I did allow them to change their background. If they were going to be working independently after the instructions, I said they could turn off thier camera but leave their speakers on. If they needed me, I was there. If not they could work without being stared out. I hated teaching via Zoom and am thankful we did it for only about 3 months.
What I do for those classes that require cameras is I turn off my lamp and most other lights, so my blackout curtains make it pitch black in my room. That way I can lean in to show my face with my camera on, but I don’t have to feel paranoid the whole time. It also looks like a horror movie when I peek my head close to my screen which is cool.
Happy new year to you. You are not insignificant! Your wishing everyone a happy new year could have been just the thing to brighten someone's day when they were feeling down.
As someone who had to do zoom for college I 100% agree with the teachers concerns about students not participating when their cameras are o. Not wanting to share your home is not an excuse as zoom has digital backgrounds that act as a green screen if you don't have one or you could use the blur filter which makes everything in the room you're in practically unrecognizable except you. If neither your camera or mic are on and you're not responding that's completely acceptable for the teacher to treat you gradewise as if you were tardy
I had a teacher call me out for not having my camera on. I said I couldn't turn it on right now. She insisted. I said I couldn't. I got her to put in the chat that if I don't get on camera it would affect my grade. During this time I was taking my clothes off so when the camera was turned on I was naked as a jay bird "sorry. Laundry day"
The environment in a zoom call is SUPER different than being in a classroom, people are all looking forward at the teacher in a physical classroom and it just feels like a place, and you can disappear into the back or side and just exist. But in a Zoom call? Everyone can see everyone else's face, there's no being quiet, to the side, and out of the way, it's just completely up front. For people like me and the OP, this makes things INCREDIBLY awkward and can mess with our mentality and the ability to do the coursework as it makes it feel like we are in a show. I went to school in the 2000s, before the era that Zoom calls were even a thing, and if I had to do this in class I would have suffered so badly. I have had work-from-home training akin to this and being on camera all the time really messed with me even well into adulthood (though my disability also had something to do with it here, too). I'm not saying I don't agree with the reasoning behind the whole camera requirement for some teachers/instructors. But it severely negatively impacts people like us. To simply be on an "everyone is the same exact way" kind of mindset about the whole thing tends to make it harder for people with all kinds of awkward problems more and more...
Funny thing about workplace bullies - we learned that in criminal psychology class - they always find themselves subordinated willing to be treated like ****. It's a rather phenomenal dynamic. Most workplaces have a pair like that. It can go on for years.
I feel for the Camera story OP, a few of my teachers were the same way with cameras. However, they stopped making me turn mine on when I continued to crash 6-8 times a class b/c my bandwidth is garbage lol
@@Asiagirl644 that’s what some kids do just to avoid class/participation in my sisters school. Trust me, teachers see straight through it every single time
I would hate having to stay on camera. I'll gladly keep the volume up and talk to people in an online class, but I don't want to be on camera that entire time.
With the dormroom story, yes, I can see it would be tempting to just dump that entitled girl's stuff in the hallway, but if OP had done this, and something (like the computer) had gone missing, OP could have been deemed liable for leaving it out - and even if nothing actually did go missing, what would stop that girl from CLAIMING that something had been stolen?
A lot of SCHOOLS require students to turn their cameras on. so it's pretty common although it seems like that school was different my mom is a teacher and she's actually being nice at the moment and giving them the second-lowest grade they can get most of the time
Kid was being unnecessarily confrontational and clearly cared more about getting his/her way than about the actual issue. Doesn't want people looking at them, so they make their camera view conspicuous and flash memes thus making it impossible to ignore them. That adds up right? Got to say, I have a lot of respect for the patience it takes to be a teacher.
In my school, we HAVE to turn on our cameras in a lot of classes or we will have to face consequences, like counted as not here, the teacher making us write tests, getting a 1 (F for americans and others). I hate turning my camera on, but I have to.
First story: I can't say that I wasn't surprised by that plot twist. The driver's wife is clearly a Karen and the LTC was enabling her behavior. Taking the side of the loud-mothed parties instead of the ones who "bothers them" is just so mind-bogglingly counter-productive. Second story: I would understand putting in less than optimal effort into your job and just idling around with private stuff all the time during work hours would be apparent somewhere up the hierarchy after few weeks or months, but having it be a consistent pattern for _years_ shows that there's not enough documentation made of each employees work performance. Especially in a customer service job, where that kind of thing is expected. Third story: Saving money would definitely not be worth it if it meant that I'd have to share a room with a selfish and disgusting person like her. Had she been assigned to a room I would be living in, I would ask to be moved to a different room or dorm altogether. Then I would tell all her roommates to do the same, leaving her with a room that she'd have to pay for all by herself and act out her entitled ways for all it mattered. Fourth story: It's easy to insult, berate and try to discipline workers when you feel like they're not living up to your skewed moral standards. It's _way_ harder to work in a toxic, unfair and unsatisfying work environment with a boss that does nothing but demoralize you and still pretend that you enjoy suffering any of it. Yes, of course nobody wants to smile when their job sucks and their boss is a giant butthole. Fifth story: Teachers who goes out of their way to act like some bad kind of school councilor or therapist instead of focusing on the subject they teach, and let any "misdemeanor" effect the students' grades, are generally unqualified for their jobs imo. There's a time and place to teach kids how to be more comfortable in social situations, but doing it during a basic school subject class is not it. The only time I could tolerate a teacher disciplining a student is if they're generally unruly and don't focus on the class at all. Sixth story: I don't know if there's any danger of poisoning from drinking coffee brewed from radiator water, but I do imagine that it'd taste stale and gross. Makes me wonder what excuse the owner would pull if and when all his 50 acquaintances fell ill from drinking that coffee, let alone how big the medical bill he'd possibly end up with would be.
radiator water smells really strong and stale. and it would certainly taste as bad. its not toxic per se but it can give you horrible stomach ache and diarhea. but it depends on how old the water in there is and how sensitive your stomach is.
Hot take I guess? From a student I totally get why we're required to have our cameras on. How else would teachers know we're attending classes? Saying you don't like showing yourself on camera is the same as saying you're too introverted to attend school. Like that's fine and all. But then homeschool is an option.
I think the webcam story was dumb. That’s how it was literally everywhere, I had to do the same thing in college. To me it makes perfect sense, the teacher needs to actually see the students to work well, especially in classes where student participation is a big thing. Many classes of mine required the camera to be on the whole class and no one had problems with it. I took a language class where at first it was optional, but she later made it required. This helped because lots of times we had to work in groups, and actually seeing the person you’re working with is different than just talking to them. There are lots of small facial cues that are important in communicating
I love the maliciouscompliance and petty/pro/nuclearrevenge episodes! I am addicted to all tho, and can't go a full day without listening to at least 2-4 videos.
"My English teacher got a talking too. I am back to having all A's" Come on, bud... you're writing about your grade in a high school English class and you make THAT mistake?
This new way of taking classes is a work in progress, but it's clear that the teachers need to see their students, otherwise, how can they be sure the students are paying attention at all? If one goes to class and show their face, why can't they show the same face on camera? And what about the parents enabling the student behaviour? It remembers me about that entiled parent whose child would just mute the call and play video games during the classes and the mother blamed on the techer for not engaging the child, but refused to discipline her kid.
i definitely agree that students should pay attention, but them turning off their camera doesn’t mean they aren’t paying attention. when students turn on their camera everyone can see them and their background. normally students don’t see each others’ faces, only backs of heads. backgrounds also can be anxiety inducing because most people are in their rooms and show a ton of their personal belongings. obviously when you have cases of people who do stop paying attention, it’s hard to see that there are also cases when people continue paying attention even when their camera is off (also people that don’t pay attention and entitled parents suck)
She should've downloaded SnapChat filters for her camera and 'accidentally' turned one on, and when the teacher noticed, just fumbled around and pretended to not know how to turn it off.
I don’t really agree with The OP from the zoom call. I understand that you’re self conscious, a lot of people are. But teachers really don’t have a choice. How do they know that you’re not asleep? How do they know that you’re no cheating? Teachers, atleast where I live, can get fired because of their students grades and performance in class. I understand that they’re uncomfortable, I’m also uncomfortable with it, but If their ONLY reason is being self conscious, they should deal with it for this time.
My teacher has just given up on zoom calls. They instead went for just uploading videos and granting us their email for questions. Much better than class happening at a specific time. You can consume the class whenever you want, it’s impossible to miss the class, and you can rewind and rewatch bits if you didn’t hear/understand something.
Story 2: my mom is named Shirley, and I can assure all of you that she is NOT that type of person and not all Shirley’s are like that, my mom works in accounting and is very considerate of others 😊
If someone had taken my bed and thrown my stuff out in the hall... well to say they would get a rude awakening would be quite the understatement. How did that woman get away with this?
I think the kid needs to stop being super self conscious about himself/herself. I honestly agree with the teacher when in the zoom meeting it’s class time not private time
It’s not that easy. I hate people like you that downplay other people’s problems just because you’ve never experienced them, or it “was easy for you.” It’s okay for them to be uncomfortable with that and the teacher should have respected the students privacy. Besides, did you even listen to the entire thing? They weren’t keeping their camera off for “private time,” they were still doing the work and turning things in on time. Yes, other students might have been keeping their camera’s off to goof off, but this student had proof that they weren’t. And the teacher should have accommodated for this student’s needs without them having to fight her over it and then take it to the principal.
@Logan Vantrease Then again the student was distracting the class by using a flashing filter and displaying memes and other things while class was going on, albeit silly it’s still a distraction to other students. I’m a Junior in HS and last year was all online, we were required to have our cameras on except for extracurricular classes that would be mandated by the teachers. I’m self conscious of myself sure, and I have ADHD(doctor approved and a 504 put in place) so I have trouble paying attention anyways. If someone like that was doing those things I would get nothing done at all as I would be distracted more than usual. This was a quite selfish thing for that student to request since it not only distracted the teacher from continuing to teach but also could have distracted another student(s). If they were using ZOOM like they said they could have just used one of the pre built in backgrounds that ZOOM offers as I do a similar thing for similar reasons. That student should have just sucked it up and used a pre generated background instead of wasting time for the teacher. Even if the student was getting things done doesn’t mean others were so teachers have to bring their class into mind not just a particular student.
Alright, I actually agree with the teacher here. In my school (senior year at a good public school) the kids are expected to keep their cameras on at all time, otherwise the argument was that they were asleep and/or not doing their work as a result. This kid just seemed petty.
I don't like how the OP was proud about the zoom meeting. Sure, she may feel paranoid, feel like everyone's looking at her. However, she admitted it herself, that that's probably paranoia. That's something you will have to eventually deal with as a member of the society. The teacher WAS going a bit far when she ignored OP's camera being off and just docking her points, but OP's attitude is still a problem. There are four points I want to make clear to show that OP is kind of the problematic one here, not the teacher. First, teachers require people to have their camera on to ensure that the students don't just abandon post after joining the meeting. There are people who do that. It's a necessary procedure to prevent this from happening. Second, privacy? No one is asking OP to show her room. She can have a virtual background, and no one would care. That means the others can only see OP, and nothing of her private life. If classes go back go the schools, OP will have to show up there physically, and she'll inevitably show more than she did on the camera. Third, it was clearly not the first time the teacher docked points for keeping your camera off. It was a bit of a jerk move to not give you another warning, but OP KNEW she deducts points for that... and still did it. She has really no grounds to get angry at the teacher here, she really had sufficient warning. Fourth, at the end, she says "I wasn't distracting any of the other students", which actually shows that no one was actually staring at her camera, and she knows it now. I mean, who wouldn't stare at the hilarity of someone flashing memes and shrek on their camera during class? Yet, she's just having fun, being proud of herself, for pranking the teacher.
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A student that wants privacy ATTENDING A CLASS! Yes people look at you in class. It's a class. A social event with, you know, PEOPLE!!!
Best story I had was when a coworker told me she was the boss when we were both bosses that day since my manager was off. It was funny because she never wants to fix anything if there’s problems or take customer complaints. So I told everyone if there’s any issues go to her 😂 if our computer breaks she completely loses it over the stress I can’t wait for that day!
"It's out of my power" so help them find the person that does have the power. Now, it won't always happen how you want it to, but 🤷🏼♀️ That's how you do that
I mean in an actual classroom you do have to show your face, and at least teams allows you to blur your background. But saying that, a 25% reduction is just ridiculous
Talking about zoom meetings, I was on one recently with some old friends, as we all started to join 1 friend (D) who is super conscious about her appearance since an accident, simply had here camera pointed at her assistant dog. We all had a great laugh as we tended to start talking to her dog ‘Bono’ than her. She got peeved, some of us pulled out teddy bears, pets, and even one person decided to show his wife’s flower vase (she’s a florist). We all had a good laugh and D was more comfortable. She decided that next catch-up we needed to find our earliest pics of ourselves. Hopefully she’ll feel better and regain the confidence she once had. A long process, I know, but that’s what bought us all back together after so many years.
This is an amazing and wholesome story. You’ve got a great friend group there! 😁
So wholesome can I put this on r/mademesmile?
@@jordanthegenderthief yeah they are the best. We all met in one of my early jobs, we drifted and life changed for all of us, but over the past few years, circumstances, not just D, has bought us all back into contact. It’s amazing that after so many years we all still get on and talk like ‘a bunch of old women’.
So... you had a zoom meeting where you looked at nothing except an identifier of each person? We used to call those phone calls.
what a nice totally not fake story
I’m a teacher. We are doing a mix of in person and virtual. The SCHOOL requests all students have their cameras on. For those complaining, it is so we can see that the student is there and doing the work. When we cannot see the student, we don’t know if they didn’t just log in and walk away. Plus, my school discovered that having students mute kept the classes less distracting, so how do I know anyone is there. Now, I don’t bother fighting to get cameras on. It takes so long to get all the cameras on that I would never get my class going if I wasted that time. I know my students leave their devices. Most students exit as soon as I say “well, class is over for today” boom mass exodus, but I tend to get one per class who is sitting there. I know they logged in and wandered off. It isn’t hard to figure that out when they were there for the lesson but were the only one who did not turn in the assignment. Personally, I do not want to make cameras mandatory for a couple reasons, one, I grew up with friends who were ashamed of their homes. We were never invited over, but I knew it was because they were poor and their homes were...not nice. Secondary, I know that too many cameras can cause audio issues, so I rather my camera being the only one.
It's the same at my school and in my virtual classes; students are mandated to have cameras on during assessments, but that's hit or miss at best. I can always tell who left because I give notes and exit tickets on what is exactly on my quizzes, those who fail missed the exit tickets.
When my school has online classes it’s mandatory to keep your camera on to show you’re present
What happens if you do not have a camera on your computer?
@@Houleigan there was one guy who didn’t have his camera on so first they give you a warning then they give you a detention for the days you have to go back to school
A student was suspended for having a nerf gun in his room during a zoom meeting and the school called the police
Op number one literally just got his wife a private room just by maliciously complying props my man
Edit: didn't notice the autocorrect till like 5 months later lol
The way he told that story was sly too, leaving that little tidbit to the end, but foreshadowing it with comments like "she didn't complain at all" and "you'll help with the move", along with "we looked at the room and laughed." Great twist, but easy to miss.
@@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927 yes and I'm surprised like nobody else has said something
Its spelled "complying" not compling
That twist at the end made actually me audibly chuckle
@@StevenNewman2008 "It's spelled "complying", not "compling"."
*Fixed
If I was the OP who got reamed out for not smiling and for missing one call, I would’ve just quit.
But u need money to put food on the table and kids are so expensive especially babies
@@Imjust_KEN I would make sure I have another job lined up first. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
it's a bit shameful that's how employees were treated in a organization that provided mental health services. You were assaulted/raped? Get over it.
I see 2 anime profile pics what’s the name of the anime there from?
@@morgandouglas6014 Good luck in todays environment. It's not easy these days.
I honestly don’t understand how people like Shirley get hired in the first place
Relations in a “Romantic” way
Also you can look good on paper but have a horrible work ethic....we have one of those rn.
They know how to talk big. If you interview well, you're in the door.
Most likely the peter principle in action.
If you pay attention to the story, Shirley's boss was the real problem. Shirley just learned what she needed to do to survive under her boss. But when her boss was finally fired, she hadn't learned how to survive in any other way. Buh bye!
Ooh, Malicious Compliance today. Nice.
Great way to start 2021
@@SilverFang2789 yes
Seems fitting after slogging through 2020’s bullpucky!
"*cUe tHe MaLiCiOuS cOmPLiAnCe*"
Least it ain’t AITA. He’s been doing far too much of that horrendous sub
11:30 my mum (a teacher) was like this in the COVID lockdowns - she would insist on people having their cameras on. THERE IS A REASON, the school she taught at was for the elite, the richest of the rich. If the kids had their cameras off (maybe not paying attention) and their grades dropped significantly enough, teachers can get reprimanded or even fired. Also, at this school parents have a lot of weight, so if they feel their kids aren’t learning enough things can get messy real fast.
Just wanted to say that sometimes the teacher do have a reason for doing things like this, and you shouldn’t attack them over these things
However, the punishment part for not turning your camera on isn’t necessary, as kids can have actual reasons to turn them off
@@grandadmiralmanatee Not if you're in class. You need the camera to be ON so the teacher can see that you are actually in class. Just as though you were in person. You can't show up then disappear for 99% of the class time.
I love it when when someone's commands end up turning in chaos😅
Whoever needs to hear this today: "If it's time you enjoyed wasting, then it's not wasted time."
Go do that thing, take that class, learn that skill, see that person, just give yourself permission to HAVE FUN! It is necessary to have a healthy lifestyle!
Thanks for this
Thank you ^~^
In English it is called "sharpening the saw" because "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." So successful people have known this for a long time.
Here is a weird fact:one quarter of all your bones are in your feet.
I guess that would make sense. After all it seems to be what holds us up
Other weird fact: the bottom of your foot has the most skin and your eyelid have the least amount of skin
the more you know: blood is red, skeletons are made out of bones, your strongest bone is in your legs, karen is entitled
Ok thanks
@@yotengo2807, blood isn’t red.
As a teacher I feel for the teacher in the story about the cameras. I'm an introvert myself and working online via zoom was HELL in the beginning, I hated it. Like the teacher said, you'll get used to it, though, and it's a good "skill" to have, as more meetings are likely to be online in the future, both because of helat risks and environmental issues.
Teaching a class where you can't see anyone is horrible too, though. You can't see those nods or smiles, or the confusion for that matter that are clues to if the students have understood or need more help. I teach adults (Teaching a second language to refugees/immigrants) , and I never force people to have their cameras on, but I encourage it, especially for group discussions and such, but I've now had classes where I wouldn't recognize my students if i met them, because I BARELY see them. Then there's the other issue, with cheating. During tests the cameras must be on the whole time, but of course students can cheat anyway, and that leads to a whole new hell to me as a teacher, because my job and pride in my job is on the line... if a students get "sent up" to a more advanced class due to cheating, that student will also most likely crash and burn in that class, and I'd get questioned on how I could let a poor student pass.
So yeah, this is not fun for us teachers either, we just all have to do what we can to get through this... talk to your teachers, ask about when how and why to keep the cameras on... to say hi and goodbye, for example, that would be nice... and during assignments/tests where cheating can be an issue... when I have lectures /show power points I can't see the students anyway, so then there's no point in cameras... if you just word it in a reasonable way I'm sure most us us would listen and compromise... in many cases it's also not the teachers who set those rules, they might very well come from the school administration and then there's a pressure on the teacher to follow the rules...
Op was the asshole, just turn your fucking camera on, the teachers have to do extra work now, traying to engage students in this new reality
@@msreduxI agree. I also feel uncomfortable with being on camera, but I understand that there’s literally no other choice. It’s a difficult time for everyone and the teachers are just trying to do their jobs. They should just suck it up and turn on the camera.......
Same. Beeing seen and speaking in a group of people is an essential life skill and running away from it forever will only get you deeper into insecurities and paranoia. The more you do it the easier it becomes. What kind of future does this person want - one where they are unable to face social situations because they never tried to get out of their comfort zone, or one where they have the confidence they can deal with anything because theyve already pushed themselves and proved rhey can do it?
@@bunnys9704 No they want a future where people have privacy in their own home. This isn't the classroom it's their home, you have no right to demand to be allowed into it.
@@richardchantlerrico Youre missing my point entirely.
25% for not turning a camera on?!? My sister was late doing a final in college and had to BEG her teacher to reopen it so she could do it proper and she didn't lose that many--if any--points; even though she expected to lose a full letter grade. OP's teacher is insane with that.
Honestly!
If they were told ahead of time, it was OP's choice to take the lower grade. They don't get to act surprised or like it's too harsh.
(got a bit ranty towards the end, this is also just imo) To be fair, there is an extension that some teachers run for attendance that relies on your camera being turned on and some systems require cameras to be on (I know OP's doesn't). I don't think anyone particularly likes it, in fact a lot of people, myself included, feel a bit anxious about it. That's not really a good reason to do something that could trigger someone with photosensitive seizure, sensory processing issues, etc.I would rather feel paranoid and uncomfortable than make another person suffer through a significant medical event. I think 25 points is a bit much of course, but OP knew what the teacher expected and should have immediately spoken with admin about reasonable accommodation since the principal is clearly supportive of allowing cameras to be off. I just can't completely support doing something that could put other people in danger and not taking appropriate steps or trying to make a work around first. OP needs to talk to someone, not make life harder for the teachers who are already working double time to create an effective learning environment with very little prep. Rant over, sorry
Happy New Years! Not for my fire department though. We woke up to call being asked to help another department with a 10-50 (Automobile Accident)
Only we couldn’t find the car, and they sent us all home. It’s sickening to think that someone is flipped upside down in their vehicle, and we couldn’t help them. It feels terrible but there’s only so much that can be done. Rslash I watched your video after I got home. Made me feel better, your videos bring me laughter because I LOVE your entitled voice. It’s funny as hell. Everyone have a good day and PLEASE, be safe on the road, remember to wear your seatbelt, and when the roads become icy, or during bad conditions, be cautious.
So sorry, within minutes of writing this, dispatch confirmed that the original caller messed up the details, and it was within a different department’s jurisdiction. I’m thanking the Lord above that, it’s not that we couldn’t help someone, it’s that they weren’t in our area to begin with. But the above message stands, be safe on the roads.
Karen - Do ThIs ThInG nOw
Op - Does it
Karen - Surprise Pikachu face
The camera on really is a way for the teacher to know that the student is participating though. Since it's not face to face, teachers have a harder time seeing expressions and tells and actually seeing that you're not working to reprimand you. Students can (and have) signed on and left to do other stuff then come back at end of class time and leave.
This might be caught with a smaller class but when you got thirty kids, it's harder to identify. Personally the whole privacy thing isn't a concern where I am in terms of the camera... it's the fact that our internet connection might not be strong enough to handle being in a zoom meeting WITH a camera on so teachers let the 'no cameras' thing slide for that reason. Plus work is submitted elsewhere so the teachers can know who is REALLY participating.
Its privacy. if you study at home and not at the place which they assigned for you then you shouldnt have to turn it on . Imagine having PC in the living room, in backdround rest of your familly watching TV, maybe wearing nothing but underwear or something. Nah. No one can invade my home.
It'd be better if it was like a college. If you don't want it, fine by the teachers. If you want it, you can enjoy comfort while everyone who can distract you, and everyone else, has left.
@@abhabh6896 They have backgrounds for that and they suggest having a wall or putting up a blanket behind you.
...Why are you in class with your family behind you watching TV? Wouldn't that be distracting for you???
Gotta say, there's no NEED for a teacher to see the students. Especially in something like an English class that's assignment-based. If the student isn't engaged in the class, it would show in their work. Insisting on a camera being on, after the student said it made them uncomfortable, is just a power trip. It's not a performing arts class. By the time I finished my schooling (in 2014), most of my classes were all online. Participation was graded on responses to weekly discussion posts. I never once saw the teacher's or any of my classmates' face.
@@abhabh6896 ever used zoom? I've been working from home spending 6hrs minimum on zoom calls with customers.
You can EASILY hide everything in the background. Or just reposition the computer. And hate to break it to people... Your wall isn't very interesting and people (the posters actual mentioned concern) can look at you in class anyway.
You do realize that the Sicilian in question died immediately afterwards, right?
I thought exactly the same thing. The reference was quite poorly placed
MaliciousCompliance is one of if not my favorite subreddit. Keep it up.
The teacher did say exactly what she wanted to see on the camera. She wanted to see Op participating.
A minute? Wow. Happy New Year, rSlash!
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Happy New Year
@@lucaswood4336 stay safe!
As a teacher, I can relate to the Zoom meeting story. I wanted to see my kids faces too when we had on line lessons. I asked, they complied. If any had given me a reasonable excuse not to, I would like to think I would have listened. I did allow them to change their background. If they were going to be working independently after the instructions, I said they could turn off thier camera but leave their speakers on. If they needed me, I was there. If not they could work without being stared out. I hated teaching via Zoom and am thankful we did it for only about 3 months.
These are the best vids around!!
Cant wait to see how doing what you're told can cause chaos
What I do for those classes that require cameras is I turn off my lamp and most other lights, so my blackout curtains make it pitch black in my room. That way I can lean in to show my face with my camera on, but I don’t have to feel paranoid the whole time. It also looks like a horror movie when I peek my head close to my screen which is cool.
For the guy who hates cameras a quote: "It's not that are you paranoid. It's about are you paranoid enough?"
I love the princess bride reference. Great movie.
Happy new year to all of you people out there. Sending warm hugs from an insignificant girl.
And to you, you significantly more important than you realise lovely human bean!
Happy new year to you. You are not insignificant! Your wishing everyone a happy new year could have been just the thing to brighten someone's day when they were feeling down.
Aww. 🤗 Hugs are always welcome. Cuddle bugs like me especially appreciate warm hugs. 💖 Thank you, MJ Fairygirl.
Happy new year warm hugs from me to everyone
i like how this was posted a min ago and theres a dislike gvgcyhev
Haters have notifications on 🤭🤭
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You just know a Karen or somebody that was in this video saw it ->-
Nah it is the Australians
Lol when they started with the story where the main character expressed their hate for the camera, my teacher was making kids turn on their camera.
“Never mess with a Sicilian when death is on the line”
The Princess Bride
Yess, some malicious compliance to start 2021. Perfect, Happy New Year rSlash!
Me and my fiance Jonah both love listening together ❤ Couples who listen to Rslash together stay together ❤
Your way of reading the voice of the Karens and Kyles is my favourite!
As someone who had to do zoom for college I 100% agree with the teachers concerns about students not participating when their cameras are o. Not wanting to share your home is not an excuse as zoom has digital backgrounds that act as a green screen if you don't have one or you could use the blur filter which makes everything in the room you're in practically unrecognizable except you. If neither your camera or mic are on and you're not responding that's completely acceptable for the teacher to treat you gradewise as if you were tardy
I had a teacher call me out for not having my camera on. I said I couldn't turn it on right now. She insisted. I said I couldn't. I got her to put in the chat that if I don't get on camera it would affect my grade. During this time I was taking my clothes off so when the camera was turned on I was naked as a jay bird "sorry. Laundry day"
I was too stubborn for all of the zoom era and just used a Logitech C120 from 2009. You could count the pixels on my screen and the fps was about 10.
The environment in a zoom call is SUPER different than being in a classroom, people are all looking forward at the teacher in a physical classroom and it just feels like a place, and you can disappear into the back or side and just exist. But in a Zoom call? Everyone can see everyone else's face, there's no being quiet, to the side, and out of the way, it's just completely up front. For people like me and the OP, this makes things INCREDIBLY awkward and can mess with our mentality and the ability to do the coursework as it makes it feel like we are in a show. I went to school in the 2000s, before the era that Zoom calls were even a thing, and if I had to do this in class I would have suffered so badly. I have had work-from-home training akin to this and being on camera all the time really messed with me even well into adulthood (though my disability also had something to do with it here, too).
I'm not saying I don't agree with the reasoning behind the whole camera requirement for some teachers/instructors. But it severely negatively impacts people like us. To simply be on an "everyone is the same exact way" kind of mindset about the whole thing tends to make it harder for people with all kinds of awkward problems more and more...
Oh shut it, the teacher could’ve been understanding but she decided to possibly ruin a teenagers life all because she couldn’t see their face
“Never mess with gen-z when technology is on the line”
Millennial: do not cite the source code to me witch I was there when it was written!
Ah, I love it when people quote Princess Bride. Love that movie
The fact Rslash made a princess bride reference makes my heart happy
The story about the camera. I thought they were just gonna put up a really bad drawing of them working over the camera
Funny thing about workplace bullies - we learned that in criminal psychology class - they always find themselves subordinated willing to be treated like ****. It's a rather phenomenal dynamic. Most workplaces have a pair like that. It can go on for years.
I feel for the Camera story OP, a few of my teachers were the same way with cameras. However, they stopped making me turn mine on when I continued to crash 6-8 times a class b/c my bandwidth is garbage lol
Maybe put up a selfie and say that your camera froze ?
@@Asiagirl644 that’s what some kids do just to avoid class/participation in my sisters school. Trust me, teachers see straight through it every single time
I guess we know why they want yours to stay off.
I would hate having to stay on camera. I'll gladly keep the volume up and talk to people in an online class, but I don't want to be on camera that entire time.
rSlash your comments after the last story gave me my first giggle fit of 2021! Thanks man! All the best this year!!
With the dormroom story, yes, I can see it would be tempting to just dump that entitled girl's stuff in the hallway, but if OP had done this, and something (like the computer) had gone missing, OP could have been deemed liable for leaving it out - and even if nothing actually did go missing, what would stop that girl from CLAIMING that something had been stolen?
Hot Take: if you're the boss of someone, MAYBE you should have some idea of how things work.
@Chris George Fair enough
A lot of SCHOOLS require students to turn their cameras on. so it's pretty common although it seems like that school was different
my mom is a teacher and she's actually being nice at the moment and giving them the second-lowest grade they can get most of the time
Malicious compliance is the best, always gives me a laugh. If possible kindly bring back murdered by words it's also a fun one. As always loved it👍
That “Outstanding” hits so hard 😂 where’s my other army or military peeps at??
Kid was being unnecessarily confrontational and clearly cared more about getting his/her way than about the actual issue. Doesn't want people looking at them, so they make their camera view conspicuous and flash memes thus making it impossible to ignore them. That adds up right?
Got to say, I have a lot of respect for the patience it takes to be a teacher.
In my school, we HAVE to turn on our cameras in a lot of classes or we will have to face consequences, like counted as not here, the teacher making us write tests, getting a 1 (F for americans and others). I hate turning my camera on, but I have to.
Perfect way to ring in the new year
"Don't call me Surely..."
Who gets the reference?
Ah yes, classic Leslie Nielsen.
Yes!
On the last story I thought It was a sewer problem
Happy New Years and people get what the flipping deserve!
i love the way DWHUTT extends their words
First story: I can't say that I wasn't surprised by that plot twist. The driver's wife is clearly a Karen and the LTC was enabling her behavior. Taking the side of the loud-mothed parties instead of the ones who "bothers them" is just so mind-bogglingly counter-productive.
Second story: I would understand putting in less than optimal effort into your job and just idling around with private stuff all the time during work hours would be apparent somewhere up the hierarchy after few weeks or months, but having it be a consistent pattern for _years_ shows that there's not enough documentation made of each employees work performance. Especially in a customer service job, where that kind of thing is expected.
Third story: Saving money would definitely not be worth it if it meant that I'd have to share a room with a selfish and disgusting person like her. Had she been assigned to a room I would be living in, I would ask to be moved to a different room or dorm altogether. Then I would tell all her roommates to do the same, leaving her with a room that she'd have to pay for all by herself and act out her entitled ways for all it mattered.
Fourth story: It's easy to insult, berate and try to discipline workers when you feel like they're not living up to your skewed moral standards. It's _way_ harder to work in a toxic, unfair and unsatisfying work environment with a boss that does nothing but demoralize you and still pretend that you enjoy suffering any of it. Yes, of course nobody wants to smile when their job sucks and their boss is a giant butthole.
Fifth story: Teachers who goes out of their way to act like some bad kind of school councilor or therapist instead of focusing on the subject they teach, and let any "misdemeanor" effect the students' grades, are generally unqualified for their jobs imo. There's a time and place to teach kids how to be more comfortable in social situations, but doing it during a basic school subject class is not it. The only time I could tolerate a teacher disciplining a student is if they're generally unruly and don't focus on the class at all.
Sixth story: I don't know if there's any danger of poisoning from drinking coffee brewed from radiator water, but I do imagine that it'd taste stale and gross. Makes me wonder what excuse the owner would pull if and when all his 50 acquaintances fell ill from drinking that coffee, let alone how big the medical bill he'd possibly end up with would be.
radiator water smells really strong and stale. and it would certainly taste as bad. its not toxic per se but it can give you horrible stomach ache and diarhea. but it depends on how old the water in there is and how sensitive your stomach is.
Yay!!! within 12 seconds, still late at 8:10. I demand to speak to your manager!!! 😡
🤣😂 happy year y’all!!!
Hot take I guess? From a student I totally get why we're required to have our cameras on. How else would teachers know we're attending classes? Saying you don't like showing yourself on camera is the same as saying you're too introverted to attend school. Like that's fine and all. But then homeschool is an option.
Wow 2021 already .Have a Merry and Happy Easter everyone!
Don’t ask me why I say Merry Easter it’s just a thing I do with my family so yea idk
I have been able to see this when it comes out for 3 days straight. It is 6 o’clock. Happy new year
For me it is 3 o’clock
The coffee one I wish it was a sewer line I would be laughing my broken dumb ass off my desk chair
I think the webcam story was dumb. That’s how it was literally everywhere, I had to do the same thing in college. To me it makes perfect sense, the teacher needs to actually see the students to work well, especially in classes where student participation is a big thing. Many classes of mine required the camera to be on the whole class and no one had problems with it. I took a language class where at first it was optional, but she later made it required. This helped because lots of times we had to work in groups, and actually seeing the person you’re working with is different than just talking to them. There are lots of small facial cues that are important in communicating
Eff off
I love these! Some people get confused, thinking if you’re nice you’re a welcome mat. Nope, just quietly plotting my revenge thank you very much!
That one story about the camera on during zoom class's, should get facerig and turn up to "class" as a raccoon
Malicious Compliance, on New Years!!! This is awesome
"I have anxiety when my camera is on." Society is doomed.
11:30 Lmao! That shit would absolutely NOT fly over here in Europe with the whole GDPR shenanigans going on here lol!
For the zoom one i also feel uncomfortable with my camera on
I love the maliciouscompliance and petty/pro/nuclearrevenge episodes! I am addicted to all tho, and can't go a full day without listening to at least 2-4 videos.
"My English teacher got a talking too. I am back to having all A's"
Come on, bud... you're writing about your grade in a high school English class and you make THAT mistake?
The power of sticky notes. I don't like using my camera so I have a sticky note over it.
This new way of taking classes is a work in progress, but it's clear that the teachers need to see their students, otherwise, how can they be sure the students are paying attention at all? If one goes to class and show their face, why can't they show the same face on camera? And what about the parents enabling the student behaviour?
It remembers me about that entiled parent whose child would just mute the call and play video games during the classes and the mother blamed on the techer for not engaging the child, but refused to discipline her kid.
i definitely agree that students should pay attention, but them turning off their camera doesn’t mean they aren’t paying attention. when students turn on their camera everyone can see them and their background. normally students don’t see each others’ faces, only backs of heads. backgrounds also can be anxiety inducing because most people are in their rooms and show a ton of their personal belongings.
obviously when you have cases of people who do stop paying attention, it’s hard to see that there are also cases when people continue paying attention even when their camera is off
(also people that don’t pay attention and entitled parents suck)
If they’re doing all their work, obviously they were
They don’t need to see students. If you don’t take online school please don’t start with that.
@@socrates2039 I do.
@@gabrielaranna5809 we don’t :))
r/Maliciouscompliance is my favorite subreddit
She should've downloaded SnapChat filters for her camera and 'accidentally' turned one on, and when the teacher noticed, just fumbled around and pretended to not know how to turn it off.
It worked for that lawyer with the kitty filter. "I am not a cat."
14:23 🤣 I love that movie!! "Anybody want a peanut?"
Got sum snacks and a new vid from Rslash...Now i shall draw-
With the coffee story when they said it was brown i was like “oh shit there is some shit in the coffee”
I don’t really agree with The OP from the zoom call. I understand that you’re self conscious, a lot of people are. But teachers really don’t have a choice. How do they know that you’re not asleep? How do they know that you’re no cheating? Teachers, atleast where I live, can get fired because of their students grades and performance in class. I understand that they’re uncomfortable, I’m also uncomfortable with it, but If their ONLY reason is being self conscious, they should deal with it for this time.
Yeah, op is just a brat
the first one was very sweet, as in no one was hurt in any way, and everyone got what they wanted, so YAY!
ℍ𝕒𝕡𝕡𝕪 ℕ𝕖𝕨 𝕐𝕖𝕒𝕣, 𝕣𝕊𝕝𝕒𝕤𝕙! 𝙷𝚊𝚙𝚙𝚢 𝙽𝚎𝚠 𝚈𝚎𝚊𝚛, 𝚈𝚞𝚐𝚘!
Rslash:”she dropped you like a bad habit”
Me:but bad habits aren’t easy to drop
Oh wait-
Finally early, when I get a notification it's usually from days ago 🙃
My teacher has just given up on zoom calls. They instead went for just uploading videos and granting us their email for questions.
Much better than class happening at a specific time. You can consume the class whenever you want, it’s impossible to miss the class, and you can rewind and rewatch bits if you didn’t hear/understand something.
Happy New Years! Lol I listen to this while I care for my frogs
Story 2: my mom is named Shirley, and I can assure all of you that she is NOT that type of person and not all Shirley’s are like that, my mom works in accounting and is very considerate of others 😊
Happy New Years everyone
If someone had taken my bed and thrown my stuff out in the hall... well to say they would get a rude awakening would be quite the understatement. How did that woman get away with this?
Can we get more tree law videos? I know you enjoy them and we enjoy them too. If there aren’t enough stories for it that’s understandable.
A new year, a new batch of Malicious Compliance stories brought to us by R/Slash.
I think the kid needs to stop being super self conscious about himself/herself. I honestly agree with the teacher when in the zoom meeting it’s class time not private time
It’s not that easy. I hate people like you that downplay other people’s problems just because you’ve never experienced them, or it “was easy for you.” It’s okay for them to be uncomfortable with that and the teacher should have respected the students privacy.
Besides, did you even listen to the entire thing? They weren’t keeping their camera off for “private time,” they were still doing the work and turning things in on time. Yes, other students might have been keeping their camera’s off to goof off, but this student had proof that they weren’t.
And the teacher should have accommodated for this student’s needs without them having to fight her over it and then take it to the principal.
@Logan Vantrease
Then again the student was distracting the class by using a flashing filter and displaying memes and other things while class was going on, albeit silly it’s still a distraction to other students. I’m a Junior in HS and last year was all online, we were required to have our cameras on except for extracurricular classes that would be mandated by the teachers. I’m self conscious of myself sure, and I have ADHD(doctor approved and a 504 put in place) so I have trouble paying attention anyways. If someone like that was doing those things I would get nothing done at all as I would be distracted more than usual. This was a quite selfish thing for that student to request since it not only distracted the teacher from continuing to teach but also could have distracted another student(s). If they were using ZOOM like they said they could have just used one of the pre built in backgrounds that ZOOM offers as I do a similar thing for similar reasons. That student should have just sucked it up and used a pre generated background instead of wasting time for the teacher. Even if the student was getting things done doesn’t mean others were so teachers have to bring their class into mind not just a particular student.
"However, there was this one girl." Isn't there always, that one girl?
Alright, I actually agree with the teacher here. In my school (senior year at a good public school) the kids are expected to keep their cameras on at all time, otherwise the argument was that they were asleep and/or not doing their work as a result. This kid just seemed petty.
Lol this was posted at 6:13AM for me
I don't like how the OP was proud about the zoom meeting. Sure, she may feel paranoid, feel like everyone's looking at her. However, she admitted it herself, that that's probably paranoia. That's something you will have to eventually deal with as a member of the society. The teacher WAS going a bit far when she ignored OP's camera being off and just docking her points, but OP's attitude is still a problem. There are four points I want to make clear to show that OP is kind of the problematic one here, not the teacher.
First, teachers require people to have their camera on to ensure that the students don't just abandon post after joining the meeting. There are people who do that. It's a necessary procedure to prevent this from happening.
Second, privacy? No one is asking OP to show her room. She can have a virtual background, and no one would care. That means the others can only see OP, and nothing of her private life. If classes go back go the schools, OP will have to show up there physically, and she'll inevitably show more than she did on the camera.
Third, it was clearly not the first time the teacher docked points for keeping your camera off. It was a bit of a jerk move to not give you another warning, but OP KNEW she deducts points for that... and still did it. She has really no grounds to get angry at the teacher here, she really had sufficient warning.
Fourth, at the end, she says "I wasn't distracting any of the other students", which actually shows that no one was actually staring at her camera, and she knows it now. I mean, who wouldn't stare at the hilarity of someone flashing memes and shrek on their camera during class? Yet, she's just having fun, being proud of herself, for pranking the teacher.
A student that wants privacy ATTENDING A CLASS! Yes people look at you in class. It's a class. A social event with, you know, PEOPLE!!!
Happy new year rSlash! Hope you, your wife, qnd Yugo have a great year!
Best story I had was when a coworker told me she was the boss when we were both bosses that day since my manager was off.
It was funny because she never wants to fix anything if there’s problems or take customer complaints. So I told everyone if there’s any issues go to her 😂 if our computer breaks she completely loses it over the stress I can’t wait for that day!
I freaking hate zoom!
He who is snarky is full of malarkey.
Thanks for the vid!
"It's out of my power" so help them find the person that does have the power. Now, it won't always happen how you want it to, but 🤷🏼♀️ That's how you do that
I mean in an actual classroom you do have to show your face, and at least teams allows you to blur your background.
But saying that, a 25% reduction is just ridiculous
The last one i was waiting for op to say the water was full of lead.