Zhongli said she no longer hold the throne (she never actually to begin with only act on behalf of focalor). Ei/raiden also said ‘this frail human’. They both never said ‘one of us’.
When Neuvillette said the verdict in the cutscene, after that, he is crying as he mourn for Forcalors death. You know, it's really a painful to watch because after witnessing Forcalors death, Neuvillette still needs to uphold his position as the Iudex to gave Fontaine's final verdict. The man didn't have a time to breath himself, Geez! Fontaine's story is sure one hell of a dark one.
I think the easter egg that we found inside Fountain of Lucine where we heard Furina voice saying: "So interminable... So lonely... Just... *how much longer*?" It makes sense now that she is waiting for the day when her performance will finally reach its conclusion.
Yeah and then she just said those very same lines when she was crying on her bed in the archon quest really justified that the fountain is where memories of the past of converge in fountain
Okay, to clarify something to avoid misunderstandings- Neuvillette does not hate the Seven- he has a grudge against the Heavenly Principles for what they took, but despite how threatening he sounds that's less "I will destroy them" and more, "this is my destiny, and nothing shall stop me from fulfilling it." Basically, he'll judge them on a case-by-case basis. Remember, just because you're judged, doesn't mean the verdict is guilty. (I mean, he says as much with Zhongli.)
@@Autumn-xs1bt his personal Vendetta is why he wants to put them on trial. While he forgave Furina and doesn't want to put her on trial for deceiving the people.
@@amberxv4777 You do realize that it'd be very out of character for him to hate them solely because they're aligned with Celestia? He's seen firsthand with Focalors that not all Archons like Celestia despite being their subordinates. Sure, he has a debt to settle, hence why he'll be judging them in the first place- but Neuvillette as a judge has always strived to be an impartial one. Considering he hasn't even met any of them yet, it's very far-fetched to say he loathes them based purely on a surface-level analysis of these voice lines. The voice lines themselves don't even actually imply any hate. He talks about "oath and obligations" for Ei, says that him and Zhongli fighting isn't a given, commends Buer for her kindness and says that even if Venti's harmless, he still wants to meet him for himself to be sure. When actually talking about the Archons, and not how nothing's gonna stop him from fulfilling his destiny, he doesn't even seem mad at all.
Well it is indirectly said that he only wants to judge the arcjons out of obligation and their connection to Celestia but have no real issue with them personally to the point he actuality feels guilty by proxy over what happened to nahida.
Orobashi was born some time before or during the Archon War. Unable to defeat either the "golden god" and tired of "being shamed for blasphemy", Orobashi fled from Teyvat and eventually ended up beyond the seal that separated Enkanomiya from Teyvat.
the Gods of Celestia are awakening after the death of the Archon and after the Hydro Dragon Sovereign's return to power. Pretty excited for the day the GODs themeselves meddle with the current events happening in Teyvat
Yeah, I am beginning to see why certain regions were dropped at certain times. It makes me wonder what bombshell will awake in Natlan because even before Sumeru and Fontaine dropped I was getting ideas about them through NPCs. I haven't met any Natlan NPCs yet, so this land of Pyro for me is the most mysterious. But I wouldn't be surprised if the plot has connections to the Heavenly Principles. I think there's suppose to be one more final chapter after Snezhaya drops right? It would be cool if Celestia becomes a location we can actually explore.
@@makhyusnimakhyusni401If you are talking about Murata the pyro archon then not because from the teyvat prevail just like how Nahida dropped new lore bombs Murata is going to share amd reveal some really important secrets to the traveler but maybe if Celestia is gonna become a location or appear in a chapter it would be cool to meet one of the shades or some of the higher gods of Celestia
I stopped playing genshin for a while, but I'm still interested in the story. So, neu got his full power because of focalor death and removed the authority, so that no longer archon will replace? Am I right?
Why does Venti's voiceline seem to me like HE ALREADY KNEW ALL ALONG??? When he said, "I wouldn't be surprised if she saved the whole world," it felt like Furina and Focalors actions have a larger effect than we imagined. Perhaps Focalors' sacrifice and Furina's endurance saved not just Fontaine.
Sure, but I think combined with the other lines, she may have future role as well (and could end up ascending into godhood, though I'd imagine more on her own terms).
He’s one of Istaroth’s 1000 winds after all, in the same way he knows all songs made in the past, present and future, he probably knows way more than any of the Seven about Teyvat and it’s fate.
Venti: being drunk on public area Zhongli: refused to paid for his meals Raiden: *you don’t need me to state since we already know* Nahida: a minor roaming around the street without a guardian.
I hope Furina though unlikey, can corule fontaine with neuv, she clearly displayed her intentions to save everyone nomatter the cost, losing her divinity, so if the explore this in her second story quest i will be super excited
I don't think she will rule but she will still most likely be the most famous diva of Fontaine now that she is free to pave her own way. Her acting performance and her stage presence have inspired a lot of people and groups of actors.
I really wanted to see hiw strong neuvi with the gnosis is, but then skirk told him that its the corpse of someone and neuvi basically said "eww, arlecchino take this"
@@jadenimation8189 y would be third become second...when there's already celestia up there I think it's talking about another descender someone we didn't know yet
Furina truly does fit right in. Every other archon has in some way or another had a twin. Zhongli is a bit of a stretch but he did make his own fake body to die so close enough.
Am still confused on that deagon Like,is morax actually a dragon,or is it just another form he takes? Like,we know he's not an adepti,cuz adepti are implied to be either his creations or beings he empowered,since he's not even from this world
This story feels all too real for me personally since I can relate to Furina/Focalors' struggles and Neuvillette already reminds me one of my closest friends too.
@@operationx821cap or not, to some people this could be relatable. No one knows what each person struggle of, so try to be symphatetic before someone throw an apple at you :]
I cant help but feel sorrow. She deserves so so much more imagine suffering like her for 5 centuries and than getting thrown away even by the devs (when the prophesy ended i wanted to go to furina first cuz she was broken and alone, no one to comfort her but turns out we(traveler) dont even see her in the end of the quest as if she has no more value 💔
Well most likely get an Interlude quest, where we try to reconnect with Furina. That + probably some information on how Celestia reacts to there being 6 Archon thrones
The traveler enters Fontaine, one of the nation of the Seven Archons of Teyvat. The traveler exits Fontaine, one of the nation of the Six Archons of Teyvat
I wonder what Zhongli would think about Neuvillette wanting to judge him… He knows he’s far from innocent, but he had to make many difficult decisions and lost too many friends in the Archon War. Ultimately, he managed to protect Liyue countless times… Would he allow some “500 years old brat” to judge him..?
@@cussundriakneal9904he’d fuck all of them up, it’s not that he can’t judge them and is avoiding them, but there are active circumstances keeping him in Fontaine and while the rest should be easy licks, Ei is basically unreachable unless she _wants_ to talk face to face
Keep in mind that 'judging' =/= 'punishing'. Neuvillette wants to judge all the archons out of obligation, but that doesn't mean he thinks they need to be punished.
Don't forget that all the archons that the traveler has met are basically no longer archons, because archon status is given to anyone who has gnosis with the condition "the gnosis was given directly by Celestia (stolen/seized not included)" so basically now there are only 2 more archons and the rest are just ordinary gods, except for Furina because her current status is just an ordinary human, even though she still has oceanid powers
@@b.d.s8662 genosis show the authority of calastia over tevyet not nation so either genosis are at 1 place or 7 nation doesn't matter...... When nahida thought to gamble with doctor she also said what if she destroy the gnosis and awaken hp....not giving away will weaken up hp
The new quest changes everything: _Neuvillette is the new strongest lore caracter . _when traveler smiles to someone, he gets fooled by him _the knave is pyro character _electro weekly boss once again _childe is always the baby fighter whatever he does _let's hope for a future meeting between skirk and deinslif
You talk about playable character ? Cause even that is not confirm we have 1 god were we know anything on her power and limit who already surpass the archon lvl and its the electro one + she is the most mysterious one and probably the réincarnation or the electro sovereign itself who have also fool celestia.
@@theolailheugue9402 Who is this electro character? Anyway wouldn't the god we first faced at the beginning of the story be the strongest we've met lore-wise. Considering she seems to be Celestia's executioner or at the very least someone high ranking.
@@josephcharles4549 i talk for the playable character. Its simply the electro archon who don t need the gnosis and the power of makoto + Ei with the sacred sakura who have absorb and contain "the great one" or her destiny to keep ruling eternaly along the heavens even if the other 6 falls (Neuvi said it). Or the musou no ishin true power who make her at base hogher than the other 6 or the fact she is the only character in the game we don t know her true form and origin. In lore the strongest character in Teivat is Phane. Basicly Neuvilette at full power is only équivalent to 1/28th of phane power. Cause phane with only 4 of her shadows totaly annihilate the 7 sovereigns cause we know since Apep explication than 1 shadow of phane (like istaroth) is équivalent to minimum 2 at 3 sovereigns combine in power. So Neuvillette is far far too weak to be considérate the strongest in lore in fact he is even insignifiant.
@@jj_1167 In playable character we don t know but for lore absolutely not. He is like the big majority of the gods in Teivat even the sovereign extremely weak even more agains the primordials.
What I understand about each nation is that the "archons" seats are truly a game of thrones. "Archon" is the elemental authority given to gods of teyvat by Celestia. Now that the authority has been given back to Dragon Sovereigns, they are not "Archons" as they are the Dragons Sovereign of Teyvat. They were once the rightful owner of the elemental authorities, The gods "Archons" of each respective element is supposed to be a "guide" for them the "ideals" they impose it is. The authority is stolen by the heavenly principles and been used to have power "authority" over teyvat, making them the actual Villains of this story.. now I wonder what Tsaritsa's plan towards the use of the gnosises? There is someone who can wield elemental power without a vision... Gnosises work like a battery, The MC however...so many questions and yet not all of them could be answered...
Finally about the geo archon ✨💛 So he is the "golden god"! Orobashi was born some time before or during the Archon War. Unable to defeat either the "golden god" and tired of "being shamed for blasphemy", Orobashi fled from Teyvat and eventually ended up beyond the seal that separated Enkanomiya from Teyvat
“Golden god” is unfortunately a title of several gods in the past. Remus in Fontaine, Deshret in Sumeru… And Zhongli of course. Orobashi fled from Teyvat during the Archon War. Which means, we can’t rule out any of them or others who might have been called “golden god”😂
regarding the English Voicelines after 4.2, it seems i'm not the only one with no voices when the game in English voice.😅 i already contacted the CS and they're looking into the problems. the voices are fine when i set mine in Japanese
I hope both gets their 2nd story quest. Furina, well she is an "archon". While Neuvillette, he is just a walking lore that it feels like he should get a 2nd story quest.
Furina is still the archon in terms of gameplay, at least in her long hair healing form. The Hydro Archon's divinity may have perished, and her power transferred back to Neuv, but her body is still alive as Furina. Furina is still the body of an archon.
Is unbelievable how Zhongli and Raiden deem Furina as the same level of a true god. Getting respect by these two is tge most high form of respect. Is just insane the leak that said furina was not a the archon was actually a spoiler to the story. She was literally a young girl that just born instantly, having the same mentality, she was given a big responsibility without knowing when it gonna end. In furina terms, i would say, she was playing a role in a stage with no fixed duration and no script, no choice to act until the curtain falls.
Imagine if the final boss of Natlan is against one of Celestia's warriors/gods themselves as they personally felt they had to directly intervene in our adventure once the hydro archons "throne" was destroyed and the water dragon regained their full power
I'm lowkey kinda blowed I pulled furina before doing the quest or at least waiting for the reveal that she isn't the archon. I am trying to collect the archons and well, she ate my primos for no real reason. In the meantime, I will gaslight myself into believing she actually is the archon, and hope that the dainsleif quest will involve furina's profile being update to saying Gnosis instead of Vision. and that Hoyo will add a hydro effect to her character select like how the other archons have.
I mean she's the exact-smaller copy of Focalor, and Focalor did picked Furina herself so she's the closest thing to Focalor that we could get 😂 even the other archons thinks of her as an archon so we should too!
Well, she is. All Archons have human bodies - Venti patterned his human body from his friend, Zhongli is Morax's current human body, Ei destroyed her human body and placed her archon self in the sword. For Focalor's case, Furina was her human body, and her archon self/divinity was separated from it and was in the Oratrice. Technically, they are one, but also not one as they have different consciousness.
So who do you think will get the second part of character story quest in Fontaine. It usually goes to every archon from their respective region in the past. But now without hydro archon,i wonder who will get it.
Hopefully neuv🥲the future of Fontaine rests entirely on him, Furina was always just a figure head, and she’s free to live her life. Neuvilette is more relevant to the story
Would be good if Neuvilette got his second quest, he still has memories of the past Teyvat to regain. First one was too short and was about the melusines mostly.
Uhh, he is. Irminsul erased Rukkhadevata, not Kusanali, he should not be immune to it. 2 possibilities. Either traveler informs him, or it's just a well known fact that the akademiya captured Nahida for 500 years, but she was still the known as the only dendro archon in those years before.
Well that's hard to tell by this voiceline, the voiceline implies that he doesn't know what the Sages have done to her till recently, which is something is a fact even without the history rewrite because only the context of why she was locked up was changed not the event itself.
In my picture of the world, Archons (grays) have a higher status than Dragons. Dragons were created by the Archons later. But, in the case of Neuvillette, we are talking about controlling the element of water. Neuvillette is not the creator of this element; he can only control it to one degree or another. To me, this means that he does not have a priority right to power. The element is an integral part of the unified force. If power over the elements can be stolen from the Dragon, then this means that he is not the source of this power. Why did he decide to pass judgment on the Archons?
Me, using JP voice because it's cool and didn't know about the issue that EN dub doesn't have a voice yet : 👀 Well, I keep paying his voice for my ASMR before sleep... 😌👌
so who is ruling fontaine now? also shouldn't there be repercussion when a god die? like some god of war shit. or at least like what happened to havria's people after they killed her.
They most likely forgot that plot point. Either that or the Oratrice had enough energy accumulated that it anihiliated Focalors, fully bypassing the curse.
It will be seen that Neuvillette would likely took the mantle of being the Leader of Fontaine since he had the highest position as the Iudex but he is not an Archon, rather he is like a de-facto Leader of some sort or something.
Nothing, The Hydro Archon's seat is destroyed and the authority is now with the Hydro Dragon Sovereign. There will be no Hydro Archons to fill in the seat because it's gone. Celestia has yet to decide about what happened or either they were deceived by Focalors so nothing will happen as of the moment.
Are there voice lines from before 4.2? I didn't checked them out before the changes. I wished there was a way to see the old ones too for those that didn't have time or was planning to listen to them later. This also happened with Sumeru's story. I didn't read everything so I missed out on so many changes after the main story 😞
Can someone explain to me how Neuvillette was able to keep his full dragon hood? Last patch we established that the gnosis are the power/authority that was taken from the dragons, which makes them incomplete now So how come he kept his powers after giving the gnosis to the knave?
Well thats because he gained the lost authority back from folicors death, the last minute reveal in the epologue implies the gnosis actually aren't directly connected to the power of archons themselves. But are basically more of a symbol of their authority than a physical manifestation of it.
At the end of act 5 nuevillette told us that the gnosis are the remains of the 3rd descender. I believe the dragon authority to be the seats of the archon in celestia. Focalor destroys her by committing suicide thus returning all authority back to nuev
@@PaulonTheBrave besides as a symbol of authority, I do think that we could also consider what venti said about the gnosis being akin to a vision that grants its users elemental compatibility to their respective elements. But in this case a gnosis is something that allows Celestia's chosen archon to become compatible with the respective ancient dragon soverign's full authority over their respective elements. So it in that sense a Gnosis is pretty much a grander and beefed up vision and considering to the fact that its apparently made from the corpse of the 3rd descender who appears to share related attributed to the traveler being easily resonant with any elemental energy without a use of a vision.
Archon only has full authority in their respective element while using a Gnosis. Meaning while with Gnosis, every element of their type belongs to them. Like the element can't harm them in anyway as they got full authority. Example in Inazuma, Kapatcir and Orobashi, both of electro element, can't harm Ei with electro as Ei has full authority over it with a Gnosis. But without a Gnosis, you can challenge a god and have a chance to beat them using the same element. In Ancient world, Ancient Dragons were the ones that have that capacity and authority with the elements but was stripped away by Celestia. But now, Focalors broke that rule and gave the water authority back to Neuv. So now Neuv , even without a Gnosis, cannot be harmed by any form of water even by a god or god level being using the same element, like Osial, god of waves or torrents if I am not mistaken. But this doesn't mean an Archon without Gnosis is not strong, they just don't have full authority and can be harmed/affected by the same element. Simple example , an archon without a Gnosis is like a water slime being damaged by water attacks and not being immune.
it is likely because of respect: the hydro archon separated herself into 2 individuals Focalors: the archon Furina: the human she; furina, did a task only an archon could endure, as a human
because furina is the one he has the actual connection with. yes focalors is the demon name but they split into 2 and furina is the half he has a connection with which is why the voiceline is for her
What is strange is that in Japanese those voice lines are already available but not in the Eng dub. It’s strange perhaps they haven’t had time to record Neuvillette’s English voice lines for these specific ones?
This topic is a bit unrelated but if Neuvillette gave away the hydro gnosis, he got his authority back right? Since the Hydro Archon died, and her divinity and Egeria’s stolen command to the P.O water went back to Neuvillette so then the gnosis is just an empty vessal then?
Being an usurper doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not from Teyvat. The primordial one is called the first usurper cause they seized the power of the seven dragon sovereigns. Since each archon was handed their respective sovereign’s stolen elemental authority they became usurpers by extension.
Nah I just read what he said about Zhongli. Neuvillette is ready to throw hands with Morax. Yoooo so much for the strongest archon. Neuvillette is going to give him a beat down with the goal he has to exact justice
All the archons give Furina the recognition she deserves and even wanting to invite her to have a good time and rest Neuvillette: I AM THE HYDRO DRAGON, IM GOING TO JUDGE ALL OF THE SEVEN ONE BY ONE, except Nahihi.
Nevi will definitely kill raiden brutally if he came to knew her war crimes and also she is a bad ruler and well ofc can't cook And yeah forget about orobashi she killed
????????? Orobashi has nothing to do with Neuvi The seven nations are completely separated to eachothers laws. Any Archon can do whatever they want with their nation.
He would indeed judge her HARD Her sins against her power, how she use that power, how she rules the nation using that power, how she make the puppets and nearly perfectly make a human body(Wanderer) except it's still a puppet, and how she treat her people by using her power. He would be coming to her someday in the future, that's what he said... 😁👍
He wasn't, and he will never be an Archon. He now has his full power as the Hydro Dragon Sovereign, but to become an Archon he must ally with Celestia (also the Hydro Archon position itself is now destroyed)
I don’t understand why people are so fixated on Neuvillette having to be the archon. No, he’s the Hydro Dragon Sovereign which is the absolute pinnacle of the Hydro element. Even Focalors herself admitted that she cannot do the things a Sovereign can (Judging the Heavenly Principles)
@@LeonMasters800typical neuvillette fans In the right side they wanted him to be an archon "oh he's an archon, yes he deserves it" In the left side they wanted the other side of fans to realize about something like "no he's far superior being , archon is shit,blablabla" Neuvillette fans=Childe fans Annoying
@@LeonMasters800 Technically Furina is Focalors. Focalors said "I separated my divinity from body and spirit..." So Furina is still both the body and spirit of Focalors, just without the divinity.
Furina: I’m a fraud.
The Archons: She’s awesome. Very diligent. Still one of us in my book.
I mean she basically is + the in game version still is still archon in one of her forms.
Furina is the opposite of gojo lol.
Zhongli said she no longer hold the throne (she never actually to begin with only act on behalf of focalor). Ei/raiden also said ‘this frail human’. They both never said ‘one of us’.
@@fazril7972 Ei praised her spirit resilience, comparable to hers at the least.
Furina, the "king" of genshin impact
Some of Neuvi's voicelines are not yet available since he's still crying from what happened. Poor Neuvi 😢
Bro got shookt so much just like the rest of us.. after what happened
Hydro dragon..Hydro dragon..Please dont cry.
When Neuvillette said the verdict in the cutscene, after that, he is crying as he mourn for Forcalors death. You know, it's really a painful to watch because after witnessing Forcalors death, Neuvillette still needs to uphold his position as the Iudex to gave Fontaine's final verdict. The man didn't have a time to breath himself, Geez! Fontaine's story is sure one hell of a dark one.
@@winterscarlette4204 I Also Agree with you bro the beganing part of this quest made feel sad especially the death of melus and silver
He needs a hug.
Neuvillette: “I WILL JUDGE ALL ARCHONS”
Nahida: Exists
Neuvillette: “Except you. You’re cool.”
*New Friendship Obtained* 💙💚
Venti: Drunk
Neuville: *disbelief*
He judged Nahida and simply was verdicted "NOT GUILTY"
@@creolur THAT DRUNKARD IS A DISGRACE TO THE ARTS
I think the easter egg that we found inside Fountain of Lucine where we heard Furina voice saying:
"So interminable... So lonely... Just... *how much longer*?"
It makes sense now that she is waiting for the day when her performance will finally reach its conclusion.
Yeah and then she just said those very same lines when she was crying on her bed in the archon quest really justified that the fountain is where memories of the past of converge in fountain
Okay, to clarify something to avoid misunderstandings-
Neuvillette does not hate the Seven- he has a grudge against the Heavenly Principles for what they took, but despite how threatening he sounds that's less "I will destroy them" and more, "this is my destiny, and nothing shall stop me from fulfilling it." Basically, he'll judge them on a case-by-case basis.
Remember, just because you're judged, doesn't mean the verdict is guilty. (I mean, he says as much with Zhongli.)
he hates them. Focalors is the only one he feels differently about. He's kind that's why he can still feel sad for Nahida.
@@amberxv4777he never said that though, he only says he'll judge them. When have you ever seen a judge having personal vendetta against the accused?
@@Autumn-xs1bt his personal Vendetta is why he wants to put them on trial. While he forgave Furina and doesn't want to put her on trial for deceiving the people.
@@amberxv4777 You do realize that it'd be very out of character for him to hate them solely because they're aligned with Celestia? He's seen firsthand with Focalors that not all Archons like Celestia despite being their subordinates. Sure, he has a debt to settle, hence why he'll be judging them in the first place- but Neuvillette as a judge has always strived to be an impartial one.
Considering he hasn't even met any of them yet, it's very far-fetched to say he loathes them based purely on a surface-level analysis of these voice lines. The voice lines themselves don't even actually imply any hate. He talks about "oath and obligations" for Ei, says that him and Zhongli fighting isn't a given, commends Buer for her kindness and says that even if Venti's harmless, he still wants to meet him for himself to be sure. When actually talking about the Archons, and not how nothing's gonna stop him from fulfilling his destiny, he doesn't even seem mad at all.
@@Autumn-xs1btthere are many type of judge ... whick kind of judge do you mean ? on a court ? 😂 i dont think so💀
Even neuvilette can't go mad at nahida.
He doesn’t hate any of the archons. Only the heavenly principles.
Well it is indirectly said that he only wants to judge the arcjons out of obligation and their connection to Celestia but have no real issue with them personally to the point he actuality feels guilty by proxy over what happened to nahida.
He would brawl with Zhongli tho if it’s necessary
If anyone was confused about the "deus auri" part in Zhongli's, it means "God of gold"
thank you
Orobashi was born some time before or during the Archon War. Unable to defeat either the "golden god" and tired of "being shamed for blasphemy", Orobashi fled from Teyvat and eventually ended up beyond the seal that separated Enkanomiya from Teyvat.
the Water Dragon still doesn't see what happened to Morax now that he's mostly penniless lol
Is Ari too of Latin origin? Find it interesting as Ari also means ”sun-like” in Badaga
@@dapur2694more fuel to the sun prince theory
I'm glad he still loves Furina
Every Archons : praising Furina for her prowess as an Archon and a human
Meanwhile Neuvilitte : I'll judge every archon when the trial day come
Based neuvi
Except Furina
Except Furina and Nahida, they both deserve the best ❤
the Gods of Celestia are awakening after the death of the Archon and after the Hydro Dragon Sovereign's return to power. Pretty excited for the day the GODs themeselves meddle with the current events happening in Teyvat
Yeah, I am beginning to see why certain regions were dropped at certain times. It makes me wonder what bombshell will awake in Natlan because even before Sumeru and Fontaine dropped I was getting ideas about them through NPCs. I haven't met any Natlan NPCs yet, so this land of Pyro for me is the most mysterious. But I wouldn't be surprised if the plot has connections to the Heavenly Principles. I think there's suppose to be one more final chapter after Snezhaya drops right? It would be cool if Celestia becomes a location we can actually explore.
I hoping a god sided with celestia appear in natlan
how did u know that celestia are awakening? bcs it was never stated in AQ 4.2 that they are awakening
@@makhyusnimakhyusni401If you are talking about Murata the pyro archon then not because from the teyvat prevail just like how Nahida dropped new lore bombs Murata is going to share amd reveal some really important secrets to the traveler but maybe if Celestia is gonna become a location or appear in a chapter it would be cool to meet one of the shades or some of the higher gods of Celestia
I stopped playing genshin for a while, but I'm still interested in the story. So, neu got his full power because of focalor death and removed the authority, so that no longer archon will replace? Am I right?
I love that the archons have basically given her title of “Honorary Archon” ❤
I'm proud to be someone who believed in furina since 4.0❤
Same here!
❤
Furina defender since the leaks
I hope my faith to furina will event in a 50/50 win for her
I downloaded the game again just for her 🩵🪼
Why does Venti's voiceline seem to me like HE ALREADY KNEW ALL ALONG??? When he said, "I wouldn't be surprised if she saved the whole world," it felt like Furina and Focalors actions have a larger effect than we imagined.
Perhaps Focalors' sacrifice and Furina's endurance saved not just Fontaine.
Sure, but I think combined with the other lines, she may have future role as well (and could end up ascending into godhood, though I'd imagine more on her own terms).
Remember Fontain is on a Plateau and is naturally higher than most of teyvat. What do you think a Flooded Fontaine would mean?
@@silverhawkscape2677 fontaine DID get flooded tho
He’s one of Istaroth’s 1000 winds after all, in the same way he knows all songs made in the past, present and future, he probably knows way more than any of the Seven about Teyvat and it’s fate.
When neuv said he's going to judge everythin, he wasn't holding back
Venti: being drunk on public area
Zhongli: refused to paid for his meals
Raiden: *you don’t need me to state since we already know*
Nahida: a minor roaming around the street without a guardian.
@4n0n9m0u6 Lmao! I love this reply.
I hope Furina though unlikey, can corule fontaine with neuv, she clearly displayed her intentions to save everyone nomatter the cost, losing her divinity, so if the explore this in her second story quest i will be super excited
I don't think she will rule but she will still most likely be the most famous diva of Fontaine now that she is free to pave her own way. Her acting performance and her stage presence have inspired a lot of people and groups of actors.
@@nightday2030 This would be really cool, finally free from the acting, but still the sassy brat we all adore, and the icon of hydro
Fontaine is not ruled by anyone. Neuvillette isn't the ruler either, he's the chief judge.
@@F1ll1nTh3BlanksHaven't you played the New Act 5 of the Archon quest?
@@HYPERMAN__ I have watched the play through twice over. I can't find it stated anywhere that Fontaine has a ruler.
I really wanted to see hiw strong neuvi with the gnosis is, but then skirk told him that its the corpse of someone and neuvi basically said "eww, arlecchino take this"
Didn't Skirk also say that it brings misfortune? And Neuvilette didn't want any more things happening to Fontaine so he gave it to Arlecchino
I guess that's why every other archons are giving off their gnosis perhaps tsaritsa is going to revive the third descender using this
@@jadenimation8189 y would be third become second...when there's already celestia up there I think it's talking about another descender someone we didn't know yet
Furina truly does fit right in. Every other archon has in some way or another had a twin. Zhongli is a bit of a stretch but he did make his own fake body to die so close enough.
Focalor way is just way too extreme
Am still confused on that deagon
Like,is morax actually a dragon,or is it just another form he takes?
Like,we know he's not an adepti,cuz adepti are implied to be either his creations or beings he empowered,since he's not even from this world
@@kannan07 He's the prime of adepti whatever that means
This story feels all too real for me personally since I can relate to Furina/Focalors' struggles and Neuvillette already reminds me one of my closest friends too.
cap
@@operationx821shut up
@@operationx821cap or not, to some people this could be relatable. No one knows what each person struggle of, so try to be symphatetic before someone throw an apple at you :]
"Few things are without flaws in this world, but Nahida is"
Nahida is the best cabbage.
I cant help but feel sorrow. She deserves so so much more imagine suffering like her for 5 centuries and than getting thrown away even by the devs (when the prophesy ended i wanted to go to furina first cuz she was broken and alone, no one to comfort her but turns out we(traveler) dont even see her in the end of the quest as if she has no more value 💔
Well most likely get an Interlude quest, where we try to reconnect with Furina. That + probably some information on how Celestia reacts to there being 6 Archon thrones
Huh, I think Neuvi gave us more titles for the archons, God of Breeze and Hope, that's a good one, I'll have to keep note of it.
The traveler enters Fontaine, one of the nation of the Seven Archons of Teyvat. The traveler exits Fontaine, one of the nation of the Six Archons of Teyvat
Venti’s line was so sweet 😭
I wonder what Zhongli would think about Neuvillette wanting to judge him…
He knows he’s far from innocent, but he had to make many difficult decisions and lost too many friends in the Archon War. Ultimately, he managed to protect Liyue countless times… Would he allow some “500 years old brat” to judge him..?
So he is like 'All of them must face punishment -but in a few centuries- when I go there'
He's hella avoiding them. 😅😂
He can't leave fontaine anytime soon. Also, yes. He's avoiding them😂
@@cussundriakneal9904he’d fuck all of them up, it’s not that he can’t judge them and is avoiding them, but there are active circumstances keeping him in Fontaine and while the rest should be easy licks, Ei is basically unreachable unless she _wants_ to talk face to face
Imagine if venti does his teyvat world tour and lands himself in fontaine. Wonder how that will go.
Keep in mind that 'judging' =/= 'punishing'. Neuvillette wants to judge all the archons out of obligation, but that doesn't mean he thinks they need to be punished.
I think Fontaine is first nation without archon now so now in total there are only 6 archon left.....
if you mean nations without an archon governing over them, its actually 3 (mond, li, fon)
Don't forget that all the archons that the traveler has met are basically no longer archons, because archon status is given to anyone who has gnosis with the condition "the gnosis was given directly by Celestia (stolen/seized not included)" so basically now there are only 2 more archons and the rest are just ordinary gods, except for Furina because her current status is just an ordinary human, even though she still has oceanid powers
I mean, there is literally bo Rule of 6 anymore, its rule of 6 😅
Oh, Celestia are going to be so pissed.. haha
@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 but their archon are not like dead dead.....they still worship them sometimes......
@@b.d.s8662 genosis show the authority of calastia over tevyet not nation so either genosis are at 1 place or 7 nation doesn't matter......
When nahida thought to gamble with doctor she also said what if she destroy the gnosis and awaken hp....not giving away will weaken up hp
Skrik said that gnosis are parts of the 3rd descenders who is now dead.If that is the case,archons are subjects of a dead ruler the whole time.
The new quest changes everything:
_Neuvillette is the new strongest lore caracter .
_when traveler smiles to someone, he gets fooled by him
_the knave is pyro character
_electro weekly boss once again
_childe is always the baby fighter whatever he does
_let's hope for a future meeting between skirk and deinslif
You talk about playable character ? Cause even that is not confirm we have 1 god were we know anything on her power and limit who already surpass the archon lvl and its the electro one + she is the most mysterious one and probably the réincarnation or the electro sovereign itself who have also fool celestia.
@@theolailheugue9402 Who is this electro character?
Anyway wouldn't the god we first faced at the beginning of the story be the strongest we've met lore-wise. Considering she seems to be Celestia's executioner or at the very least someone high ranking.
@@josephcharles4549 i talk for the playable character. Its simply the electro archon who don t need the gnosis and the power of makoto + Ei with the sacred sakura who have absorb and contain "the great one" or her destiny to keep ruling eternaly along the heavens even if the other 6 falls (Neuvi said it). Or the musou no ishin true power who make her at base hogher than the other 6 or the fact she is the only character in the game we don t know her true form and origin.
In lore the strongest character in Teivat is Phane. Basicly Neuvilette at full power is only équivalent to 1/28th of phane power. Cause phane with only 4 of her shadows totaly annihilate the 7 sovereigns cause we know since Apep explication than 1 shadow of phane (like istaroth) is équivalent to minimum 2 at 3 sovereigns combine in power. So Neuvillette is far far too weak to be considérate the strongest in lore in fact he is even insignifiant.
Is nuevillette the strongest? He gave the gnosis away. Or did I miss smth
@@jj_1167 In playable character we don t know but for lore absolutely not. He is like the big majority of the gods in Teivat even the sovereign extremely weak even more agains the primordials.
he truly cares bout furina
What I understand about each nation is that the "archons" seats are truly a game of thrones. "Archon" is the elemental authority given to gods of teyvat by Celestia. Now that the authority has been given back to Dragon Sovereigns, they are not "Archons" as they are the Dragons Sovereign of Teyvat. They were once the rightful owner of the elemental authorities, The gods "Archons" of each respective element is supposed to be a "guide" for them the "ideals" they impose it is. The authority is stolen by the heavenly principles and been used to have power "authority" over teyvat, making them the actual Villains of this story.. now I wonder what Tsaritsa's plan towards the use of the gnosises? There is someone who can wield elemental power without a vision... Gnosises work like a battery, The MC however...so many questions and yet not all of them could be answered...
Yeah, feels like there's so many question that pops up recently. Perhaps we'll get the answer when we reach Natlan
I want more furina bro....
Finally about the geo archon ✨💛 So he is the "golden god"!
Orobashi was born some time before or during the Archon War. Unable to defeat either the "golden god" and tired of "being shamed for blasphemy", Orobashi fled from Teyvat and eventually ended up beyond the seal that separated Enkanomiya from Teyvat
"golden god and narukami"
I'm really curious where Orobashi originally came from now
@@jadenimation8189maybe sea between Li Yue and Inazuma
“Golden god” is unfortunately a title of several gods in the past. Remus in Fontaine, Deshret in Sumeru… And Zhongli of course. Orobashi fled from Teyvat during the Archon War. Which means, we can’t rule out any of them or others who might have been called “golden god”😂
@@yYSilverFoxYyTbh Remus and zhongli is strong, deshret is too smart. Maybe orobashi can't defeat any of them 😂
regarding the English Voicelines after 4.2, it seems i'm not the only one with no voices when the game in English voice.😅 i already contacted the CS and they're looking into the problems. the voices are fine when i set mine in Japanese
the question was, who will get second story quest is it furina or neuvillette
Leak said that furina will get her second story quest
And yeah she deserve it 🥲
@@YukitoDoyleyeah. We know so little about her. Can't wait for 4.4
I hope both gets their 2nd story quest. Furina, well she is an "archon". While Neuvillette, he is just a walking lore that it feels like he should get a 2nd story quest.
Furina is still the archon in terms of gameplay, at least in her long hair healing form. The Hydro Archon's divinity may have perished, and her power transferred back to Neuv, but her body is still alive as Furina. Furina is still the body of an archon.
Is unbelievable how Zhongli and Raiden deem Furina as the same level of a true god. Getting respect by these two is tge most high form of respect. Is just insane the leak that said furina was not a the archon was actually a spoiler to the story. She was literally a young girl that just born instantly, having the same mentality, she was given a big responsibility without knowing when it gonna end. In furina terms, i would say, she was playing a role in a stage with no fixed duration and no script, no choice to act until the curtain falls.
Imagine if the final boss of Natlan is against one of Celestia's warriors/gods themselves as they personally felt they had to directly intervene in our adventure once the hydro archons "throne" was destroyed and the water dragon regained their full power
damn neuvillette visiting the archons n putting them on trial 🤣💀💀
i think he is unable to voice his thoughts because *"Even the walls have ears when it comes to Celestia"*
I'm lowkey kinda blowed I pulled furina before doing the quest or at least waiting for the reveal that she isn't the archon. I am trying to collect the archons and well, she ate my primos for no real reason.
In the meantime, I will gaslight myself into believing she actually is the archon, and hope that the dainsleif quest will involve furina's profile being update to saying Gnosis instead of Vision. and that Hoyo will add a hydro effect to her character select like how the other archons have.
I mean she's the exact-smaller copy of Focalor, and Focalor did picked Furina herself so she's the closest thing to Focalor that we could get 😂 even the other archons thinks of her as an archon so we should too!
Shes the human part of focalor so yes she is a part of an archon
She is an archon just not a god, archon's part without any divinity to her
Well, she is.
All Archons have human bodies - Venti patterned his human body from his friend, Zhongli is Morax's current human body, Ei destroyed her human body and placed her archon self in the sword. For Focalor's case, Furina was her human body, and her archon self/divinity was separated from it and was in the Oratrice. Technically, they are one, but also not one as they have different consciousness.
I forgot that there is Dainsleif quest haven't yet come, kinda intresrted on how the quest would go tho
Still waiting for heavenly principle lady to come down and smack the f out of nuvelette and put his judge the archons thing to rest for eternity.
also becaue the Oratirce thing in the opera house doesn't work anymore.
So who do you think will get the second part of character story quest in Fontaine.
It usually goes to every archon from their respective region in the past.
But now without hydro archon,i wonder who will get it.
Hopefully neuv🥲the future of Fontaine rests entirely on him, Furina was always just a figure head, and she’s free to live her life. Neuvilette is more relevant to the story
It's either Neuv's second SQ, exploring more about his dragon history or Furina's second SQ, learning about Egeria
Would be good if Neuvilette got his second quest, he still has memories of the past Teyvat to regain. First one was too short and was about the melusines mostly.
I play in JP dub and Neuvi's new lines are voiced though 😮
and here I thought my files are probably corrupted and thats the reason Nuevillete's voiceline are not voiced.
I wonder why they aren’t voiced?? :0 hopefully it’ll be added later on 🤞
He is still crying 😢
probably a technical error. I played in jp voices and it works just fine.
@@emem-m4x you are correct, obviously. Its me just imagining that he is still so damn sad with everything 😅😥🥺 that man deserves a break and hugs
ahh i see haha, ty for letting me know!!
100 gems coming soon😂
Welp, about talks from each archon seems have a message but the voiceline neither bug or missing from neurvillette
So the dragons are also not effected by irmunsul? Sshe neuvi knows about nahida
Uhh, he is. Irminsul erased Rukkhadevata, not Kusanali, he should not be immune to it. 2 possibilities. Either traveler informs him, or it's just a well known fact that the akademiya captured Nahida for 500 years, but she was still the known as the only dendro archon in those years before.
Well that's hard to tell by this voiceline, the voiceline implies that he doesn't know what the Sages have done to her till recently, which is something is a fact even without the history rewrite because only the context of why she was locked up was changed not the event itself.
Neuvi is still recovering..
So, Neuvillette is Furina's fan (secretly)
In my picture of the world, Archons (grays) have a higher status than Dragons. Dragons were created by the Archons later. But, in the case of Neuvillette, we are talking about controlling the element of water. Neuvillette is not the creator of this element; he can only control it to one degree or another. To me, this means that he does not have a priority right to power. The element is an integral part of the unified force. If power over the elements can be stolen from the Dragon, then this means that he is not the source of this power. Why did he decide to pass judgment on the Archons?
On Neuvillette not having voice lines. This is not the first time this has happened. Oz didn’t have a voice line when the game came out.
Me, using JP voice because it's cool and didn't know about the issue that EN dub doesn't have a voice yet : 👀
Well, I keep paying his voice for my ASMR before sleep... 😌👌
so who is ruling fontaine now? also shouldn't there be repercussion when a god die? like some god of war shit. or at least like what happened to havria's people after they killed her.
They most likely forgot that plot point. Either that or the Oratrice had enough energy accumulated that it anihiliated Focalors, fully bypassing the curse.
Maybe the fact that she gave away her authority made it so it had no repercussions, or Neuvillette acted as some kind of dampener?
it probably tht celestia is sleeping as sumeru archon quest suggested
It will be seen that Neuvillette would likely took the mantle of being the Leader of Fontaine since he had the highest position as the Iudex but he is not an Archon, rather he is like a de-facto Leader of some sort or something.
Nothing, The Hydro Archon's seat is destroyed and the authority is now with the Hydro Dragon Sovereign. There will be no Hydro Archons to fill in the seat because it's gone. Celestia has yet to decide about what happened or either they were deceived by Focalors so nothing will happen as of the moment.
Are there voice lines from before 4.2? I didn't checked them out before the changes. I wished there was a way to see the old ones too for those that didn't have time or was planning to listen to them later. This also happened with Sumeru's story. I didn't read everything so I missed out on so many changes after the main story 😞
neuvillet is really mad at the others lol he should chill
except nahida no one can get mad at radish
Off topic but can anyone tell me what's the music?? I'm not sure if it's in the Fontaine idk the namee
When I first saw Furina and how she acts, I can already tell she's not a true archon. 😅
Can someone explain to me how Neuvillette was able to keep his full dragon hood? Last patch we established that the gnosis are the power/authority that was taken from the dragons, which makes them incomplete now
So how come he kept his powers after giving the gnosis to the knave?
Well thats because he gained the lost authority back from folicors death, the last minute reveal in the epologue implies the gnosis actually aren't directly connected to the power of archons themselves. But are basically more of a symbol of their authority than a physical manifestation of it.
At the end of act 5 nuevillette told us that the gnosis are the remains of the 3rd descender. I believe the dragon authority to be the seats of the archon in celestia. Focalor destroys her by committing suicide thus returning all authority back to nuev
@@PaulonTheBrave besides as a symbol of authority, I do think that we could also consider what venti said about the gnosis being akin to a vision that grants its users elemental compatibility to their respective elements. But in this case a gnosis is something that allows Celestia's chosen archon to become compatible with the respective ancient dragon soverign's full authority over their respective elements. So it in that sense a Gnosis is pretty much a grander and beefed up vision and considering to the fact that its apparently made from the corpse of the 3rd descender who appears to share related attributed to the traveler being easily resonant with any elemental energy without a use of a vision.
Archon only has full authority in their respective element while using a Gnosis. Meaning while with Gnosis, every element of their type belongs to them. Like the element can't harm them in anyway as they got full authority. Example in Inazuma, Kapatcir and Orobashi, both of electro element, can't harm Ei with electro as Ei has full authority over it with a Gnosis. But without a Gnosis, you can challenge a god and have a chance to beat them using the same element. In Ancient world, Ancient Dragons were the ones that have that capacity and authority with the elements but was stripped away by Celestia. But now, Focalors broke that rule and gave the water authority back to Neuv. So now Neuv , even without a Gnosis, cannot be harmed by any form of water even by a god or god level being using the same element, like Osial, god of waves or torrents if I am not mistaken. But this doesn't mean an Archon without Gnosis is not strong, they just don't have full authority and can be harmed/affected by the same element. Simple example , an archon without a Gnosis is like a water slime being damaged by water attacks and not being immune.
@@PaulonTheBrave then what was the point of Act IV telling us that the gnosis are the dragon's authority? This new act contradicts it I think
I wonder why hoyoverse use "Furina" not "Focalors" for the voiceline 🤔? Are "Focalors" not the Hydro Archon demon name? I thought it is
it is likely because of respect:
the hydro archon separated herself into 2 individuals
Focalors: the archon
Furina: the human
she; furina, did a task only an archon could endure, as a human
Focalors is dead, and with her the throne of the hydro archon. Furina having been split from her is still alive.
because furina is the one he has the actual connection with. yes focalors is the demon name but they split into 2 and furina is the half he has a connection with which is why the voiceline is for her
well because furina doing all the job while focalors just watching
Focalors was executed.
What is strange is that in Japanese those voice lines are already available but not in the Eng dub. It’s strange perhaps they haven’t had time to record Neuvillette’s English voice lines for these specific ones?
This topic is a bit unrelated but if Neuvillette gave away the hydro gnosis, he got his authority back right? Since the Hydro Archon died, and her divinity and Egeria’s stolen command to the P.O water went back to Neuvillette so then the gnosis is just an empty vessal then?
for now
he's the real archon
not furina
furina is just normal human
So is it a bug on Neuvi voiceline EN? Mine got no sounds too 🤔
wait so they just forgot to record the lines or are those information Neuvillette cannot Say Aloud
😅I just have one simple question, the current furina we have is not the archon? It's been a while since I played any story/archon quests
Did i just read something wrong ?
Narukami placed her self on the list of Userpers ?
So Narukami is not from teyvat ?
Being an usurper doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not from Teyvat.
The primordial one is called the first usurper cause they seized the power of the seven dragon sovereigns.
Since each archon was handed their respective sovereign’s stolen elemental authority they became usurpers by extension.
EN dub has zero budget
Nah I just read what he said about Zhongli. Neuvillette is ready to throw hands with Morax. Yoooo so much for the strongest archon. Neuvillette is going to give him a beat down with the goal he has to exact justice
All the archons give Furina the recognition she deserves and even wanting to invite her to have a good time and rest
Neuvillette: I AM THE HYDRO DRAGON, IM GOING TO JUDGE ALL OF THE SEVEN ONE BY ONE, except Nahihi.
1:27 what's the music in the background?
why is zhongli called "Deus Auri" instead of "rex lapis"?
exactly ive never heard him called that before
It just means God of Gold but why call him that is odd when he already have plethora of names...add another onto the pile I guess....
"Rex Lapis" usually used by the Liyue locals
@@Tea-6666 then i would’ve expected morax
@@deannerodriguez2208 oh i see
Wait so neuvillete hates the archons?
Nevi will definitely kill raiden brutally if he came to knew her war crimes and also she is a bad ruler and well ofc can't cook
And yeah forget about orobashi she killed
Bro's living in his own world
Orobashi ??? Orobashi is snake god like a osial
My question why you stated she killed orobashi??? And what communication have neuv and orobashi
????????? Orobashi has nothing to do with Neuvi
The seven nations are completely separated to eachothers laws. Any Archon can do whatever they want with their nation.
He would indeed judge her HARD
Her sins against her power, how she use that power, how she rules the nation using that power, how she make the puppets and nearly perfectly make a human body(Wanderer) except it's still a puppet, and how she treat her people by using her power.
He would be coming to her someday in the future, that's what he said... 😁👍
So Neuvillette truly is the ARCHON! The hydro archon judges even the the gods.
He wasn't, and he will never be an Archon. He now has his full power as the Hydro Dragon Sovereign, but to become an Archon he must ally with Celestia (also the Hydro Archon position itself is now destroyed)
There is no Hydro Archon' seat anymore, its annihilated. But he is full fledged elements dragon sovereign, soo..
Hydro sovereign>>> hydro archon
I don’t understand why people are so fixated on Neuvillette having to be the archon. No, he’s the Hydro Dragon Sovereign which is the absolute pinnacle of the Hydro element. Even Focalors herself admitted that she cannot do the things a Sovereign can (Judging the Heavenly Principles)
@@LeonMasters800typical neuvillette fans
In the right side they wanted him to be an archon "oh he's an archon, yes he deserves it"
In the left side they wanted the other side of fans to realize about something like "no he's far superior being , archon is shit,blablabla"
Neuvillette fans=Childe fans
Annoying
So Technically, Furina Is Dead??
Focalors is dead, Furina is just a human version of herself that Focalors created
@@LeonMasters800 Technically Furina is Focalors. Focalors said "I separated my divinity from body and spirit..." So Furina is still both the body and spirit of Focalors, just without the divinity.