NBA Legends On Why They Think NBA Players Are Soft
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They're a reflection of the soft AF society we let ourselves slip into.
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Bunch of guys raised in beauty shops. Femininity is what they were exposed too because "men ain't shit". No masculinity to be found.
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Exactly
Man if the 90s basketball came back id go back to watching basketball so fast. Now a days it feels so boring.
You can see it in kids playing and pick up ball… the culture of it is pervasive. Bad attitudes and no sense of toughness as a virtue.
Today’s NBA is a no defense 3pt contest. Players just cry about fouls and wear colorful shoes
The NBA is nearly unwatchable. Games are extremely sloppy, slow (too many soft fouls and reviews), and boring. Travels and carries no longer exist. The "superstars" flop around like soccer players. It's a shame what it's become.
Yeah the foul quantity kills the pace
True Dat..!
You are just wrong. Clearly you've never actually watched NBA basketball "back then." The 60's, 80's and 70's were the 3 highest scoring decades in league history. Ever hear of the Magic Johnson led Lakers? They were not slow. The league back then was rough and a little dirty, yes, but that's because the last 20 years of NBA players are way softer and the league as a whole became way softer due to incidents such as the Malice at the Palace. I can name at least 20 superstars outside of the Bulls. @@chrisuncleahmad
Not to mention that the best players are ‘load managing’ and half the teams and intentionally trying to lose the games.
I just watched a game. I'm assuming you're born after 2000.
The old NBA was much tougher than it is now.
Today's NBA players have become weak due to load management.
Many NBA players from the 1980s and 1990s played in every game.
Yes indeed!
So very much true.
there are way too many games now.
John Stockton and AC Green dude. Stock played every game for 17 of his 19 seasons! He only missed 22 games in those other 2 seasons combined
@@sp4604It’s the same amount of games fool (82)
I love when people say guys like Larry couldnt play today. Without the physicality? Man, larry would go for 60 without even needing to rest his back
Yeah but its like, everyone always talks about how "physical" old schools guys like Bird were, but like, imagine him trying to match up with Giannis? Wtf would Bird do lmao, Giannis is bigger, faster, and stronger.
@@maxdurk4624why would he be matched up with him?
@@maxdurk4624 so was almost every player Bird beat.
"We went through way worse shit when we was broke."
Preach.
Today's NBA era is the softest era of all time
We got muscled in the world championship!!
@@markbantz9699 you mean flopping muscles?
World championship of what?
You didn't get any metal in the fiba world cup and you will say world championship?? That's funny!
not th enba.... the actual generation is soft
We win an Olympics in 1984 with Jordan and COLLEGE players and lose the 2023 world championship to teams with nba bench players and players who aren’t in the nba.
Remember MJ explained he doesn't look to shoot 3s because it takes away from his aggression at driving and slashing? Guess it's no surprise that the increase in shooting 3s correlated with an increase in soft rules and soft mentalities.
To me, after watched 40+years of NBA, the 80s and 90s were the most entertaining period. You could almost see fires for players eyes. Teams literally wanted to destroy each other. Every franchise player had shown leadership and never gave up on every single game. That broil my blood. Scores seems lower but way more physical and and the tough shots are really "tough".
Yep. Back in those days, New Jersey hated New York, Miami hated Atlanta etc, but at the end of those games, they'll shake hands in sportsmanship
The younger generation is easily offended. They’ll only accept humanity collectively sharing their delusions. Anything short of that will be met with a spirit of spoiled brat.
Truth be told
Not just the NBA players as the new generation in general.
It sucks
UFC is not as dangerous anymore too
And pro football is trash also. All the sub . 500 record teams and these rules to restrict the defenses
I only started watching the NBA since 2010 and enjoy studying the history and evolution of the NBA. I agree that today's NBA is missing what made the past eras great -- guys playing hard, guys playing with passion and pride in their game, superstars asking for the challenge of guarding the opposing superstar, men battling it out in pursuit of being the alpha, men rising up to the physical challenge instead of foulbaiting and flopping.
I started consciously watching the NBA in 1991 as I was too young to remember anything before that and to me the mid-90's to mid/late 2000's was the peak for basketball. The game doesn't need to go back to that level of physicality to be enjoyable again, but it certainly needs refs to ease off on the foul calling and rein back on the player empowerment that has nurtured the current breed of stars in the league.
There are only a handful that share the mentality and attitude of the old NBA as far as competitiveness and earning their stripes.
WRONG. NBA basketball is the worsted sport to watch since 2000. LeFlop ruined basketball. There isn't one player now that could play in the 80s and 90s. Or they would be bench players.
NBA was already unwatchable almost a decade ago. I used to watch highlights since then but now i already stop watching it altogether.
The league is SOFT
I'll add QUEEN James to adding that to come into the league now with his soft ass........
Basketball today is straight yawn status
I'm in my 50s and I can't jump (knees). I still love to go out on the court and bang it up with the youngsters. I've twisted my ankles so many times that I've lost count, broken a couple of fingers and had stitches in my head. It's just part of the game.
Allen Iverson is this your burner account? 👀
@@HeathOverledger LOL!!!!!
@@HeathOverledger Haha! I wish :)
I am 38 and I can still jump and play but these kids make me hate playing basketball ,I don't know how you do it they don't think at all, basketball IQ -20 and playing with them is watching them taking turns who is gonna pick more dumber shots than the other one and at 38 I play more defence then all of them which is sad considering that I was averige defender in my 20s
@@Rad--ls7gp Maybe your defense is getting better? Age does make you smarter. My lack of spring in my knees has caused me to improve my bank shot to make up for my reduced in-the-paint game.
The game reflects society aka the audience. Weak, entitled, more for less. It's our fault for allowing it. Reap what you sow!
Facts..sissy booty ninjas swearing to be gangsters....
The ratings are down 66% since 1998. That is a fact. No one wants the current NBa expect LeKaren and Crying Joel Embiid fans.
NOPE RATINGS ARE DOWN BECAUSE TOO MANY WARS AND COVID ETC. AND NOW BASKEBTALL CAN BE SEE ON PIRATED INTERNET STREAMS. BACK IN DAYS ONLY TV WAS OPTION.
LeKaren, lol. Noice!
Lmao. Word!!
Today's NBA is softer than baby poop 👶 💩 . The 80'-90's NBA was brutal; that's what makes Michael Jordan the GOAT 🐐 because he accomplished everything he did in such a tough league where players would tear your head off in that era. Remember the "Jordan Rules" when the Pistons were trying to hurt MJ because he was such a threat on the hardwood? I would say the end of the tough era in the NBA was maybe around 2003. Yea, today's game is Johnson & Johnson baby powder.
JORDAN LOAD MANAGED MORE THAN 450 GAMES THATS MORE THAN KAWHI LEONARD.
REMEMBER THAT U R DERANGED BECAUSE MAGIC BIRD BARKLEY CALLED MJ SOFT
Didn't MJ contribute to the rule changes because of the physicality of the Pistons? Didn't he also disregard them for there tough play? You calling the league "soft" changes nothing, and that is what I think the biggest problem is. FANS! We want gladiators and not skill. We could care less if these players drop dead as long as they entertain us by being hyper-agressive, and that is sad in my opinion.
Lmao truue
MJ never load managed. What are you talking about? He tried to play in every game for multiple reasons, one is that he knew fans were buying tickets to show up to see just him. So he tried to bring his best every night for that one fan that might only be able to afford to go to one game in their city an they bought tickets to the one time Chicago would visit their city that whole year. An they might have bought those tickets months in advance. He tried to play every game of every year. He played in all 82 nine of the fifteen he played in, 80 in one season 81 in another an 78 in another. The only times he played below 78 was his second year when he broke his foot, the 94/95 season when he came back from baseball an one year with the Wizards when he was injured. MJ never load managed, never! He was also too competitive to do that.
After his broken foot healed the team load managed him an he hated it, absolutely hated it. Couldn't wait to get back on the court.
I don't know where you heard that load of nonsense that he load managed more than someone else, but it is pure nonsense. You clearly didn't watch MJ an you also clearly don't know what kind of player he was.
He personally never load managed, the Bulls made him do it during a part of one season an he fought against it to a point where his coach could have got fired had he gave in to what Jordan wanted. Which was to be put in the game more than Bulls management would allow.
Whoever told you that I highly recommend you stop listening to.@@PIP...33
“They don’t produce cloth like that no more” CHURCH!
They have all been coddled from an early age. They also never played on asphalt and concrete and outside and on bad rims and nets.
Chain nets!
@@stevenbelow2502 I 'member
@@stevenbelow2502even rims with no nets or basketball courts with uneven surface.
I haven't watched an NBA game in some years now. It has gotten too watered down, the players are good but, are not phenomenal like those of the past.
IMO, this is the end result of a cumulation of things done by the league to create the next MJ. Gradually keep making scoring easier over the years to the point where international players say the game is harder overseas. Combine this with the higher salaries and on-court friendliness the players have for each other and here we are.
The NBA was not better when nobody could score besides MJ. I don’t miss the days of first to 80 wins.
@@chrisuncleahmad that’s your opinion. And no, MJ wasn’t the only one that could score. He just happened to be the best. Personally, I like when teams play defense and players take pride in playing defense. So much time has passed that people forget what competitive basketball even looks like.
@@halfpricesushi The 90s Knicks never won a title because they were too obsessed with defense that they forgot how to score
@@chrisuncleahmad sorry, the Knicks never won because they faced MJ and Shaq and Penny then Olajuwon. No shame in that.
What's funny is, theres more rules to protect the players, more science to enhance the players, and yet guys back in the day had less injuries lol
It's almost as if the strong men created good times which created weaker men.
Let's be honest! 80's was the Golden, 90's was good. The last good NBA era was the early 2000's. Then it became unwatchable!
Totally agreed.
80's was brutal, loved it.......and I totally took it for granted. Never cared for the sport.
80's was great but a little too tough I think, they'd straight throw punches pretty often then. That's too much.
Loved me some 90's but a lot of that was because my Sonics were good during that time I'm sure.
You're not wrong, Sean. Keep it up.
Nowadays NBA is... Boring af. That's all.
They converted the game into a playground for kids and not a sport.
And don't get me wrong: some of the players have great talent, but... Wouldn't last a minute on 70s, 80s, 90s or early 2000s, if they had to play.
MJ, AI, Barkley, Olajuwon, David Robinson, Magic, Bird... Would shatter these kids like a rock hitting a window glass.
shaq and kobe would run rings around todays players nevermind the guys you mentioned
"I could literally do a 20 minute video on the physicality alone" - we'd love to see it!
Great channel. I haven't watched since Sprewell attacked his coach. It felt like players were trending toward that attitude. Seeing what it is now, I don't think I was wrong to walk away. I would gladly return to watch anything that reassembled that 80s/90s style.
Shawn, you are ABSOLUTELY correct about today’s NBA!!!
soft like Charmin as Kobe would say.
Season just started and Phoenix suns have Bradley Beal and Devin Booker out already
Exactly. What are these 2 meatheads already load managing for ?
This shit started in the 90's with Jordan. They had to make sure their cash cow didn't get injured.
Dude get beaten up by pistons, wtf are you talking about?
@@detectivemarkseven They started beating his ass in the 80's then he started crying to David Stern. 😭
AGREED...
I don’t care what anyone else thinks. If lebron was drafted in 1985, he probably wouldn’t have lasted 10 years. Simply because his longevity is partly due to the softness of todays game. He may be big and strong. But in the 80’s and 90’s…. Everyone was. It was an all out war of stamina, skills and pure desire. The game has lost that edge. Where if you weren’t hurting, you weren’t playing. Those battle scars were earned. Period.
There's a reason that when knowledgeable basketball fans debate who the best 5 man team would be they always ask "which era rules are we playing by?"
If you don't play physical defense and get to travel with the ball it really changes the conversation.
Thanks for this video nothing but the truth !!!!
The worst part is they have no fundamentals and everybody is at the 3 point line in the playoffs I seen a Miami player literally trip over the 3 point line when a loose ball was 3 ft from him. He acted like he was on the edge of the out of bounds line and the other team had 20 sec to come get ball bc he was wanting to shoot it. 90% of the players travel. I seen lebron in two different plays walk the entire length of the floor without dribbling the ball and the flops and crying and throwing your self in the ground like a kid is a joke. You a grown ass man. Todays era sucks
There are a lot of reasons why I hate today's NBA: flopping, players chucking a lot of 3s (even 7 footers), superteams, awful officiating, and so on.
Kinda off topic here but I also hate the NBA media. I don't like hearing a lot of people "hyping" certain players, like this Victor (whatever his last name is) dude. He's just a rookie and they're already saying he might be the next GOAT?! Come on, its too early to tell. Just watch the man just play
Yep, that could wind up being pressure put on that kid as well. Way too early to tell.
They did the same thing with Luka comparing him to Bird (because they're both white) an I was thinking "slow down, let's see if he can even get a team to the finals before comparing him to an all time great".
It's all about money an getting people to watch so they make up stories to tell. It can be a beautiful game without all that.
Wen or Wembanyana, something like that. He's a leader in blocks already but still only 19 I think, they should definitely slow down on all the hype.
As a millennial that really got into basketball probably in the early to mid 2010s, I was used to seeing the game pretty much in it's modern form. Recently I went back to see what was the skillset that made Jordan the greatest of all time. I was absolutely shocked to see that Jordan's bread and butter was pretty much back to the basket, bumping the defender and then hitting a turnaround jump shot. Kobe was pretty much the same. That of course was mixed with great driving, dunking, passing etc. It's just interesting to me that the mid range mastery is what made the greatest player of all time, and players these days are keying on either shooting the 3 or driving for a layup.
Yea, today's game is garbage ball.
How you a millennial getting into basketball in the 2010's. So you just ain't watch basketball for the first part of your life?
@jonathanhighsmith9289 yea basketball wasn't big to me growing up. I played in leagues when I was a kid but never followed the NBA.
I haven't watch 1 NBA game in 15 years. No way I'm paying to support a bunch of soft babies
The rebounding stat and the assist stat are the 2 biggest overrated stats in the league. 4 offensive players are out at the 3 point line, the shot gets chucked up, clangs off the rim , and falls into the lap of one of the defense and he gets credit. No boxing out , no having to fight for the ball.
A guy hands a ball to some one or passes it to him 5 feet away. That guy goes up for a three , makes it, and the other guy gets an assist. Ridiculous
then :you gotta get stronger young fella.
Now: Its ok to be weak young fella.
Don't get how players today think the best to play couldn't play today?
That makes zero sense.
This is where it's at. Nice job .
The game used to feel more exciting to watch and I can't put my finger on it. The players as a whole are more skilled but it doesn't seem as fun, or am I missing something?
Thanks for making this video, someone had to say this.
The game today makes you wanna watch Tom & Jerry cartoons.
The 1980s and 1990s games makes you wanna stick it out and watch the whole season every year.
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I like Tom & Jerry as much as 90's NBA ... Top cartoon & top NBA
I've been a Chicago Bulls fan since their inception, 1966-67. I've played and watched a lot of basketball but as of today, I no longer watch the NBA! Forced shots, a disdain for offensive rebounds, shooting mostly 3's, not running a formal offense like the triple post, celebrating a dunk 2 minutes into a game, coaches not actually coaching, (they have become expensive "time out callers"), nonchalant defense, etc. This game used to be somewhat strategic, now it's like a gym class where the teacher rolls out a rack of basketballs and say pick teams and go! The NBA is now one giant "pick up," game with each player being an independent contractor, playing for his next contract! R.I.P NBA!
Todays NBA is like watching paint dry.
It is. 4 players stand around the 3 point line . And they pass the ball around the perimeter and jack up the three. The players look the same and play the same.
Simmons was never Broke, his Dad was one of the best players of all time in Australia's NBL
Today's players can't compare to the older players. Compare a player like Ben Simmons to a
player like Isiah Thomas of the Detroit Pistons. When The Pistons played the Lakers in the NBA
finals Thomas severely sprained his ankle. He was hellbent on playing the next day. It was painful
to watch him run hard on his ankle. Back then players sacrificed their bodies. Nowadays a player
stubs his toe and he's out for the season.
My dad's been watching the NBA since Magic/Bird's era and he said the NBA probably got too physical in the 90s. But he's also become less of an NBA fan in recent years so I think the pendulum has swung too far towards softness.
This is why no players that came in the league after they took out hand checking are in the top 10.
Adam Silver has ruined the NBA
The euro step is simply traveling giving the offensive players the edge Oscar would kick ass just like he did in his area
And euro step is easier to stop of you're a good to great defensive player than trying to stop someone using hop step.
Euro step is not always a travel, but most of the time it is in the NBA.
They have been killing the game by continuously trying to make it a better family show.
The league is missing grit and passion. Shooting threes is in common with non physicality. It’s part of this soft era. That’s why I’ve always loved footwork and dribbling skills before 3’s.
I suggest dunks become 3 points and behind the line 2 points.
White Chocolate is out of his mind. Oscar Robertson could absolutely play today and be great. Come on, man.
I've been watching the NBA since 1975 up till about 6 years ago can't watch a full game anymore, it's boring!
They have girls in them and not a Viking in them as men
Spot on!
Soft rules and shooting 3's with 29 seconds left on the shot clock is not worth watching. And the nba knows it. They allow traveling now to encourage player to get up in it.
This is a big reason why the regular season has become so mundane and hard to watch.
Not just soft they don't play defense so the scores are crazy high now. Back in the day, the scores were low like the high 80s and mid-90s but the defense players played made getting your shot a lot more work.
No soft players on that BTM intro no doubt
Not many championships in that intro either.
In 20 years, they're gonna be talking about how tough Draymond was.
I understand your feelings about today's game. Growing up I think I would like the late 90s/2000s maybe pre Warriors era
Riddle me this: how come it feels like modern players get a minor injury and are out for weeks if not months, collecting their pay-checks.
While in the 80's where people played for peanuts in comparison and way more physical, you had no load management, no modern tech, how did people played more games?
It's not only the rules that made players soft. It's the money. They make too much, too fast. They don't have to work for it anymore.
haven't watched the nba since 2003.. nothing compares to 90s basketball
“Without anymore blah blah” lol I feel like you haven’t said that in a long time
I remember watching A.I. wanting to have that dog, even watching the commercials of his shoes wiht the injuries he had, those were badges of honor...
Another great video!!!
This Why NBA's Rating At All Time Low
I tried hard to like this new NBA too. But I've been "trying" for 10 years now. And I have yet to watch a full game. Even the highlights are boring to me now. Personally its just the same junk over and over again. I do miss the 90s NBA era too.
Make the video on the physicality Sean. Love your perspective.
The reality is that the majority of today's players don't care about winning, they only care about getting paid. Look at Gilbert Arenas, who does sum up the feelings of alot of players today, he honestly clowns Champions because he has more money than them. What's true in any argument is that when you realize that you can't win the argument, you mention money.
Someone will always make more money than you but when you're a champion, you're a champion forever.
Once you're a champion, money is nothing actually.
Real champions always play to win.
Even Jordan mentioned he's still playing the game if there's no salary in the NBA.
The best visual of today's game @ 8:51
I strongly agree ‼️🤦🏽♂️😆
They missed their calling, they should have gone for diving at the college
Like bowling pins lol
The referees I think hold the most responsibility. Imagine if they didn’t make these weak calls and refused to call and acknowledge all the flops 🤷🏻♂️
You really should look into this thing called the NBA Players Association (aka, Union). The refs have _zero_ power.
@@mj23goat3 The league as well. They tell the refs how to call it. Seems like their goal was to increase scoring and showboating which took away from the game, and then there were also a few BIG fights in the 1980s and 1990's (as I recall), and so the league wanted to decrease some of the aggressiveness.
Around 1990, I once said to a coworker who played minor league ball for a while that the NBA/basketball wasn't as much of a contact sport as say the NFL, and he removed his teeth. It was damn physical back then.
I was born in 81 so missed out on the Celtics and lakers, remember the bad boys and of course the Knicks, pacers, bulls of the east, great physical rivalries in the nineties, miss those days, haven't really watched basketball since
Another great take Sean. I need to hear your opinion on this...
Do you feel the European style of play influenced a "softer" NBA?
Or
Do you feel the European style of play is a bi-product of rule changes and softer players?
If u watch euro ball , defensively it really isn’t soft . It’s always been more finesse that atheltic
Its just hilarious to me. I'm old enough to see players from the 2000s go from being called "soft" when they were playing, to now talking smack on all the current guys now that they're retired, using the same insults they had used against them. Retired players are just old and butthurt, man.
The game has become younger so the level of mental maturity and competitive mindset has changed drastically. IMHO
If Embiid is injury-prone in this era, imagine how short his career would have been back in the day (Greg Oden 2.0).
I grew up watching 90s and i don't miss unsportmanlike, career threathening fouls.. BUT
1. I WANT GUYS TO PLAY, not SIT.
2. PLEASE, Contest the layups, and don't just be a p***y and be afraid of contact.
3. BRING BACK TECHNICALS when players bitch at the refs all the time. Yeah, I know Luca will foul out each game (and I'm a fan).
4. Let players wave finger or taunt opponents.. That's ok.
But, we don't need dirty plays.. just contest the shots and play physical by TRYING HARD!
NBA today is so much hawt garbage.
Do it bro, 20 min video of modern day vs back in the day. So many times while watching ball the last couple years. That some of these guys dominating today wouldn’t be $hit
NBA changed to bring in more euro league players!🤔
Ironic because its all the americans that are flopping lol.
I'll tell you what Mr.David. set up a 3 game series with old school and New age NBA players.slap some mediocre rules and set em out on the floor. Should be epic.
This goes beyond basketball. It's so unfortunate to see young men today not understanding the necessity for MEN TO BE STRONG.
they will get a wakeup call when the next war starts which will be soon if history has taught me anything
You had to really know how to play in the 90s. I see it when Team USA plays and gets beaten. The world is tougher on the court than we are right now. Sad.
Im 70 ..so in the 60's i started playing Hoops..max out 70's
Without a doubt much more physical then.if you didn't BANG . your were not on the court period . In Indiana they
Beat the "softness out of you.Indiana High School Basketball back then was BRUTAL and the best.
started watching early 90’s, this is way better than the stagnant standing around offence that was run before, just waiting fir the big guys in the post to feed them for that running hook😂, it was physical but that doesn’t mean a good defense, players this era have to move there feet very well to defend and not easily hand check
Today's NBA ratings are at an all time low . People actually ran offensive set in the old school . They actually knew how to play basketball and every team did not play the same style . The Lakers ran the floor but the Celtics were basically half court . The bulls played a different game and they had rim protectors . Today if you beat your man it's a layup because the big man is 20bfeet from the rim .
@@saburrashid5566 makes it more challenging to defend since they bring the best rim protectors to go 20 ft out, since bigs now can really shoot it, it was just post up plays or transition back then, i saw utah consistently running plays and side actions, bulls got the triangle
@@marksines1246 nonsense when you are a big you negate your size advantage when you play on the perimeter . 7 foot but you shooting threes that's why the NBA sucks today . It is a three point contest . Nobody has a unique game everybody plays the same way . Dribble step back shoot a 3 that's not real basketball . Proof ? Ratings keep going lower and lower . Nobody hustles , boxes out or guards the ball and nobody can play the midrange game . The problem is they let a corny white man tell them to obey a computer how to play the game . That's why intelligent play is an afterthought . Nobody thinks the game anymore it's pathetic .
It’s even worse with American football. The rules are geared toward protecting the offensive players. Defense is at a disadvantage.
One huge difference is that all players are friendly. They all hang out together and party together. Back in the day that was unheard of. The other players were your enemy.
People falsely claim that modern players are more skilled. They are partially correct. Players are more skilled with dribbling and shooting 3 pointers. However, most of them don’t have a midrange and post moves are limited at best.
It just is so brain numbing seeing a 6'8 beast of a player shy away from attacking the post or playing good defense. What ever happened to the great defenses of the bulls during the 2010s to 2014s... just feels like players dont focus on defense. What ever happened to defensive specialists who got rebounds and shot good freethrow. I remember there being 4 great value players.