Why DisplayPort Is Still Better Than HDMI

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  • @AeroSW
    @AeroSW 11 месяцев назад +1796

    Latest display port standards also support higher resolutions at higher refresh rates than the latest HDMI standard as well.

    • @martheunen
      @martheunen 11 месяцев назад +77

      yeah, now if they could only actually give products said dp2.0 ports... for now i'm still better off with hdmi2.1 vs my dp1.4a ports for 4k 120hz dynamic HDR.

    • @RainboomDash
      @RainboomDash 11 месяцев назад +14

      I mean, hdmi 2.1 can do 2160p144 10-bit uncompressed or 4320p120 10-bit with DSC.. so not sure it really matters THAT much.. but yes, it is one bonus

    • @animegeek6118
      @animegeek6118 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@RainboomDashhdmi 2.1 can not do 120 8k the max on hdmi 2.1 is 8k 60 or 4k 120. Get your info right.

    • @PJM257
      @PJM257 11 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@martheunen The same thing is true for HDMI though. I have yet to use or even see a single device with HDMI 2.1.

    • @martheunen
      @martheunen 11 месяцев назад +30

      @@PJM257 tons of videocards, tv's and consoles have them... there is more hdmi 2.1 available vs dp2.0 afaik

  • @cnr_0778
    @cnr_0778 11 месяцев назад +2313

    DP is amazing. Especially because it's an open source standard that can be properly implemented in open source drivers. (Unlike HDMI)

    • @chutcentral
      @chutcentral 11 месяцев назад +19

      Open source sucks

    • @mathman0569
      @mathman0569 11 месяцев назад +345

      @@chutcentral It doesn't really, tell that to all the companies running servers with linux which if I remember correctly has a 90% share of servers, or the plethera of companies that base their stuff off of open source stuff, which apple, android and playstation all do, with apple and playstation using BSD and with android using linux.

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 11 месяцев назад +29

      @@mathman0569 it doesnt matter, it really depends on how good a software or hardware was made, the fact if it is proprietary or open source is not related at all.

    • @shanent5793
      @shanent5793 11 месяцев назад +16

      They said you need to pay a fee and join VESA to get access to the spec. That's not an open source

    • @DoubsGaming
      @DoubsGaming 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@shanent5793FOSS (Free and Open Source) does not mean free of cost in either sense.
      Free means it's free to use and manipulate and change. Open source means the source or source code is easily accessible.
      Technically something can be "free" But you still have to pay for it and you can't directly see the source code.
      And for open source it could be expensive but as long as someone can buy it and easily see it's open source.
      There are some caveats with the legal definition and license's that may contradict this or something idk.

  • @blackassmagic
    @blackassmagic 10 месяцев назад +115

    0:19 this version runs on cupcakes

  • @DrClawsPHD
    @DrClawsPHD 11 месяцев назад +129

    Tried looking up EDP and now I'm on a watchlist.

    • @caboose9843
      @caboose9843 10 месяцев назад +10

      embedded displayport v445

    • @medokn99
      @medokn99 10 месяцев назад +7

      Edp445😳

    • @user-kl4ur8wl9p
      @user-kl4ur8wl9p 3 месяца назад +1

      LOL

    • @grimoireweiss5203
      @grimoireweiss5203 Месяц назад +2

      He only wanted some cupcakes.

    • @LennyMiller739
      @LennyMiller739 8 дней назад

      What does it mean? Like the watch list one? I looked it up and went through like 4 pages of results with nothing suss

  • @Omegabird113
    @Omegabird113 11 месяцев назад +1537

    I wish DisplayPort was more standard, because it’s more capable in a lot of ways.
    Edit: by “more standard”, I meant more common especially on things like TVs.

    • @Omegabird113
      @Omegabird113 11 месяцев назад +113

      I think why HDMI is standard is all the DRM stuff and that people are just used to it.

    • @idzkk
      @idzkk 11 месяцев назад +7

      There should be one for masses one for ethusiasts

    • @simonnovak
      @simonnovak 11 месяцев назад +78

      @@idzkk That's basically how it is. HDMI for the masses and DP for enthusiasts. Yeahh boi. Typed to you from....a displayport. sorta.

    • @user-xh3nm8oe2l
      @user-xh3nm8oe2l 11 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@idzkkwhy? What's stopping the masses from using DP?

    • @nateholden7598
      @nateholden7598 11 месяцев назад +2

      Me who wants RCA lol.

  • @mlwtapout2358
    @mlwtapout2358 11 месяцев назад +122

    My entire monitor fell off of my desk once and the only thing that stopped it from smashing into a billion pieces was the raw strength of displayport. Didn't even need a new cable!

    • @MrMOGHammer
      @MrMOGHammer 10 месяцев назад +8

      you probably need a new desk if things start falling down from it. If it is because you accidentally knocked it off the table yourself, in that case you need to upgrade your brain to a non clumsy one. Should work too.

    • @jeanmont
      @jeanmont 10 месяцев назад +7

      That's pretty good pro-DP testimony

    • @lnstall_Wizard
      @lnstall_Wizard 5 месяцев назад +2

      damn, thats legit.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 5 месяцев назад +8

      Like how my phone was saved by the headphone cable acting as a bungee cord (Bring it back Apple. You killed the ipod already)

  • @Freddie1980
    @Freddie1980 10 месяцев назад +292

    There is almost no reason for HDMI to exist these days. It only became the defacto standard because film studios wanted content protection when films were sourced from devices like Blu-Ray. In the age of streaming that's no longer an issue.
    It would be good if TV companies started incorporating at least one DP input as standard so at least people would have the choice of what cable they want to use.

    • @iBoyLPs
      @iBoyLPs 10 месяцев назад +9

      I think Netflix and co are still being protected. So its still an issue but DP can handle it as well.

    • @martineyles
      @martineyles 10 месяцев назад +26

      HDMI's main advantage is in sound, which makes it useful for TVs and Home Cinema settings. In an office the display port is useful, but my gaming and media machine is using HDMI all the way.

    • @ThunderingRoar
      @ThunderingRoar 10 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@martineylesDP can also carry sound

    • @martineyles
      @martineyles 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@ThunderingRoar Can DP carry Dolby Atmos and DTS X both to and from a display?

    • @Freddie1980
      @Freddie1980 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@martineyles good point and this is why I'm not against HDMI inclusion as people should have the choice.

  • @ragtop63
    @ragtop63 11 месяцев назад +289

    The only caveat to the little latches is when a display manufacturer orients the connector incorrectly and you have to install the DP cable with the latch release button sandwiched between the back of the monitor. You’ll have to use a tool to depress the latch release if you want to get that cable off. Yes, it does happen but I’ll still take DP over HDMI any day.

    • @AbdullaBubshait
      @AbdullaBubshait 11 месяцев назад +20

      I make sure to stock a bunch of cables without latches for that reason.

    • @faranocks
      @faranocks 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@AbdullaBubshait Agreed. I find the display port connector much more secure than the HDMI connector, even without the latches. The large rectangular shape has made tolerances tighter than it is with most HDMI connectors, and as a result a much securer fit. I've only ever been worried about an HDMI connection being unplugged.

    • @patfre
      @patfre 10 месяцев назад +16

      Another bad thing is you need like 10 Tonne of force just to hold down the latch meanwhile you can’t even tell if you have pressed it down or not, so when you pull on the cable there’s a 50% chance you destroy the monitor and or the cable when you pull

    • @faranocks
      @faranocks 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@patfre That's just on cheaper cables from my experience.

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lol yes, those struggles of a PC nerd... life is hard.

  • @lacrossev
    @lacrossev 11 месяцев назад +116

    DP alt over type C also allows for full function of touch enabled portable monitors. I use it everyday with dex when im working from home as a secondary computing device mounted in front of my keyboard under my primary display.
    If i had to use this in hdmi mode it would require another mouse, or if connected to my pc, dealing with cursor transitions between a 34 ultrawide and a 13 inch 16:9.
    DP alt is also how the current crop of AR glasses work. I use it with dex and its just one cable for the whole setup, everything else is wireless.

    • @whistler_
      @whistler_ 8 месяцев назад

      Can you give more details on your setup? I have an external monitor with HDMI & USB C input, an s21, and a laptop with only DP out, so I'm curious how I could do something similar 😄

  • @dupdrop
    @dupdrop 11 месяцев назад +109

    I use DP with two monitors, as DP is required in my setup to get 165hz over 144Hz. The one huge pain and downside is that windows considers a monitor going to sleep in DP as a disconnection and re-connection when they come back. In contrast, HDMI monitors are "always on" in that regard.
    I use a utility called "MonitorKeeper" to keep window positions stable across re-connections but for whatever reason it doesn't always work like it used to.

    • @oienu
      @oienu 11 месяцев назад +13

      My monitor have the feature optional, in the settings I can put Alwas On or Low Power, in the first I can shutdown the display and still will be listed on Windows, low power will disconnect the monitor.

    • @Damian-rp2iv
      @Damian-rp2iv 11 месяцев назад +14

      that's the most anoying part of DP to me... how the hell this thing just cant tell the difference between no screen and a sleeping scree??
      But on my side I've "fixed" the issue using a DP splitter. Somehow it make all my 3 screen wake and sleep at the same time, avoiding windows to mess with my windows. Also updating to win11 helped a bit as its way better at placing windows on the right monitor when it wake up..
      Before I was also a long time user of MonitorKeeper

    • @itsmejak7888
      @itsmejak7888 11 месяцев назад +2

      Why does it matter at all if a monitor takes an extra 3-5 seconds to wake up/go to sleep?
      Seems like an absolute non issue to me but maybe I'm not seeing how important those prescious 6-10 seconds per sleep cycle are

    • @Damian-rp2iv
      @Damian-rp2iv 11 месяцев назад +15

      @@itsmejak7888 It matters when your OS (and win10 is one of them) will try to move open windows around at each screen change, but does not move them back at the right place...
      It would have been more obvious if you've tried to look at what's MonitorKeeper doing for example, instead of assuming people just cant wait for 5sec unlike superior being like you...
      Sry for the salt, I may have stored some during my years of using win10 and having it moving my windows around x)

    • @oienu
      @oienu 11 месяцев назад

      @@itsmejak7888 I can find some problems on games when the screen are not same, by example, I have three E231 but one is vertical for code or documents, that is using DVI and the others is DP, one time I shutdown the monitors having the game open and then it went into the vertical and have a bug in the resolution XD was fun and I had to restar the game, but only change the settings to always on avoid the monitor lost connection and work fine.

  • @oswith971
    @oswith971 11 месяцев назад +361

    One of the main reasons I prefer display port is the fact that I don't have to gamble if the cable is going to actually support the resolution/refresh rate I want to use. When you have a random pile of new and old HDMI cables it's really hard to tell which ones are using the newer standards and you probably end up with a black screen if happen to use the decade+ old cable to try to run a 4K display

    • @shanent5793
      @shanent5793 11 месяцев назад +46

      There are five DP transmission speeds, and not every cable supports all of them, so the problem isn't exclusive to HDMI. Throw away those old cables

    • @mozzjones6943
      @mozzjones6943 11 месяцев назад +31

      DP cables will always work no matter, It's just they differ in bandwidth capability (but much wider scales per cable unlike HDMI). If you get one that can't reach 8k 60hz for example (dp 1.4) it will just default back to whatever it's capability.. 4k 60hz (dp 1.1) and that's as far as you can take it.

    • @AbsurdAsparagus
      @AbsurdAsparagus 11 месяцев назад

      @@shanent5793or donate them, creating etrash is a shitty thing to do if you have the ability to not do it.

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@username_login_password that is horseshit. every monitor i've ever owned had both DP and HDMI ports. and if i went to microcenter and checked every monitor there, 95% would have both as well.

    • @electrothecat
      @electrothecat 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@oldfrend that's bc they are newer. Older monitors, specifically old Dell, HP, Lenovo, even brands that normally don't make monitors (i found a couple of 90s Hitachi monitors at my work), only exclusively had either HDMI or DisplayPort, I have a Dell ST2310f and the only ports it has is VGA, DVI and HDMI. I have no clue of why, but maybe it's because the monitor controllers weren't capable of seeing more than 3 ports at a time? The point is, if u have a monitor made in between 2002 to 2012, it's most likely gonna have one of the modern digital standards, depending on the brand and how cheap it is, and the year of course.

  • @Alice.59
    @Alice.59 11 месяцев назад +86

    If the 3 big names in TV market added a display port by default on all their product, HDMI would be done in 5 years, just the time it take for the new console gen to arrive and for every media player manufacturer to add a DP too

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 11 месяцев назад +23

      It will never happen because HDMI has DRM. DisplayPort doesn't have DRM. Therefore, DisplayPort is the inferior port as far as corporations are concerned.

    • @draconk
      @draconk 11 месяцев назад

      @@MrGamelover23At this day an age DRM on connectors is like wet tissue, easy to spoof, also useless since all content can be streamed through a PC either way and DRM there is 100% useless, its only useful for physical media and almost no one buys or uses it.

    • @Alice.59
      @Alice.59 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@MrGamelover23 why Tv manufacturers would care about DRM ?
      ok maybe sony since they also have a foot in the cinema market but LG and samsung, why should they care ?

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 11 месяцев назад +17

      @@Alice.59 Because major manufacturers want DRM. It's the whole reason why component was dropped from Blu Ray players. They want DRM so you don't potentially do something they don't want you to do. DisplayPort has no DRM so it would likely just become another port on a TV just like VGA and Component were on HDMI equipped TVs

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@Alice.59 If you're connecting the game console, it's using HDMI. If you're watching a DVD or a Blu-ray, it would use HDMI. Why? Copyright and DRM. You use what the equipment uses.

  • @zeke7515
    @zeke7515 11 месяцев назад +225

    FYI. If you're running a 10xx, 9xx & 7xx series gpu, you might need to update your gpu's *firmware* to get dp 1.4 to work. This update isn't included with drivers.
    This problem manifested when my PC boot looped and never started after I got New monitor. My valve index was causing the problem with the mismatch.

    • @Yehetto
      @Yehetto 11 месяцев назад +17

      This is also true for 9xx and 745/750/750 Ti and Titan X both Maxwell and Pascal and finally Titan XP.

    • @mhammadalloush5104
      @mhammadalloush5104 11 месяцев назад +5

      I found out the hard way when I finally bought a display that does support DP1.4 and wondered why I don't have video out until Linux loaded. Turns out the update is windows only which made me glad I keep a small windows install for times like this

    • @temporaer
      @temporaer 11 месяцев назад +4

      this explains why my DP never worked. it is a used card and i thought the previous owner destroyed them?

    • @niter43
      @niter43 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​​​@@temporaer at least on my 1070 it worked after OS was booted -- just as with commenter above.
      What didn't work is accessing (seeing) UEFI. Updating DP firmware fixed that.
      So you might try that, but if there's no picture at all within Windows, then probably it's broken (or maybe cable issue or monitor needs manual input selection?)

    • @MR-vj8dn
      @MR-vj8dn 11 месяцев назад +2

      You don’t upgrade hardware / DP that way 😂 You purchase new hardware with the right components from the start.

  • @laser_red1820
    @laser_red1820 11 месяцев назад +211

    I was planning to buy an HDMI cable but since you guys are so good at timing I might keep my money. Thank you so much for all the great work that you do!

    • @LeonLionHeart
      @LeonLionHeart 11 месяцев назад +6

      just remember, audio does not pass through DisplayPort.

    • @hypershadow5g
      @hypershadow5g 11 месяцев назад +129

      @@LeonLionHeart Yes it does. you're thinking of DVI.

    • @Mik3_F
      @Mik3_F 11 месяцев назад +24

      @@LeonLionHeart ?

    • @smthng
      @smthng 11 месяцев назад +78

      @@LeonLionHeart I'm literally listening to the video through my monitor speakers lmao

    •  11 месяцев назад

      @@hypershadow5gthere are DVIs with audio pins tho

  • @Groovewonder2
    @Groovewonder2 11 месяцев назад +155

    One thing that's neat about displayport is that if you look at the pinout, there are 8 wires for transmitting video signal, whereas HDMI has 6. Less shielding is needed, assuming an identical conductor gauge, for an equivalent signal over HDMI because there's less bandwidth per wire, meaning that you can have a more interference-resistant, lower frequency signal.

    • @null-nl5su
      @null-nl5su 11 месяцев назад +7

      That's not true at all. HDMI 2.0 is the last version to use 6 wires for data, and even then it doesn't need more shielding, because it transmits 6 Gbps per twisted pair while DP transmits 8.1. HDMI 2.1 uses 8 wires just as DP, and drives them at 12 Gbps, while DP 2.0 drives them at either 10, 13.5 or 20 Gbps.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 11 месяцев назад +10

      It's not really the number of data lines, but rather the way HDMI is designed. Too much bloat in the standard, limiting the one thing it's supposed to do, in favor of DRM features.

    • @Groovewonder2
      @Groovewonder2 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@null-nl5su pretty sure I learned that through some LMG content (maybe a different techquickie?) so it sounds like they need to do an update.

  • @lostskull7467
    @lostskull7467 11 месяцев назад +9

    Who would've ever thought I'd ever have to be thankful to edp for anything

    • @camwha5904
      @camwha5904 10 месяцев назад

      Was looking for the other person that made that connection!

  • @MGlBlaze
    @MGlBlaze 11 месяцев назад +50

    Edit: Apparently DisplayPort supports HDCP. I'm at a loss, then.
    For 6, that's actually a divisive one. I'm fine with it since it reminds me of the old screw fixtures for VGA and DVI connectors so I'm already familiar with needing to undo some kind of retention mechanism, but I've seen plenty of people that HATE those latches and prefer to only buy DisplayPort cables that lack them.
    There is one single reason that HDMI is more widespread; HDCP encryption. It pleases the entertainment industry that is disproportionately terrified of piracy to the point where they can end up making things inconvenient for the legitimate customer. So of course they'll prefer the standard that lets them lock things down that little bit more.
    It generally isn't a major hurdle for the consumer any more (Occasionally the HDCP handshake breaks and you need to reset the devices connected together to get it to work properly.), but I still remember how the PS3's HDMI output even applied HDCP over gameplay. This makes it impossible to capture gameplay off of it over HDMI without something that can strip out the HDCP protection; either that or you need some method of capturing a component video out instead.

    • @fernandocasillasjr
      @fernandocasillasjr 11 месяцев назад +9

      Beware of HDMI splitters. Some of these have a bug that strips the HDCP (copy protection).

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@fernandocasillasjroh no

    • @Psychx_
      @Psychx_ 11 месяцев назад +3

      HDCP is being used with DP just fine.

    • @AltonV
      @AltonV 11 месяцев назад +4

      DP also supports HDCP

    • @johnsnow1749
      @johnsnow1749 11 месяцев назад

      Why would 6 be divisive. You have the option to have it or not. Everyone wins.

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan 11 месяцев назад +5

    The latches are one of the small but significant reasons why DP is for computers and office settings, and HDMI caught on so well in consumer electronics.
    Most end users would break the cable trying to pry it out of their television, not understanding the latch.

  • @Wolfenhex
    @Wolfenhex 10 месяцев назад +6

    As someone with a moving train computer case that would be setup at events like PAX, DisplayPort was a must. Tried HDMI once when our DisplayPort cable had issues from years of movement, and never again -- it kept falling out.

  • @hitchano
    @hitchano 10 месяцев назад +3

    My entire workplace (~2k people) is on DP now. Having switched from a desktop to a laptop+dock solution (to support WFH and people going on work trips) we found we had to replace a large number of old monitors using HDMI since the combination of docks outputting DP, KVM, and a HDMI adapter to a old monitor caused a ton of video issues (sometimes even without a KVM!)

  • @Starwarsgames66
    @Starwarsgames66 11 месяцев назад +10

    It’s absurd on flagship graphics cards and monitors that we don’t have display port 2.1 uhbr 80. I mean if it doesn’t cost any royalties and it’s on their top end products, it makes no sense why it’s not there.

    • @Michallote
      @Michallote 10 месяцев назад +1

      Well I have RTX 3060 and it has 3 DP 2.1 sockets while only a single HDMI, what graphics cards are you talking about?

    • @MrMOGHammer
      @MrMOGHammer 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Michallote RTX 3060 only have 3 x DP 1.4a, and 1 x HDMI 2.1. You mixed them up

  • @mattthemouse1
    @mattthemouse1 10 месяцев назад +18

    Fun fact: DP has always been more capable since it was always meant for computers (and so prioritized bandwidth) unlike HDMI which was originally only meant for TVs

  • @Heffen89
    @Heffen89 11 месяцев назад +41

    DP++ can also output to a DVI Single Link connection with cheap passive adapters. This is useful when using old monitors that do not have HDMI nor DP.
    Daisy Chaing is a very nice feature, wich is present on too few monitors.

    • @glebglub
      @glebglub 11 месяцев назад +1

      iirc the reverse is true too, you just don't get audio obviously

    • @timathypotato8034
      @timathypotato8034 11 месяцев назад

      maybe its just the cheap adapters I have, but everytime I reboot I have unplug and plug in my dp to dvi adapters in order to get output

    • @Heffen89
      @Heffen89 11 месяцев назад

      @@timathypotato8034 I have many DP-DVI adapters distributed among many PCs. None of them showed that behavior.

    • @glebglub
      @glebglub 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@timathypotato8034 you might be able to update the firmware of the adapter if you're lucky. does turning the monitor off/on or swapping input source to and fro not do it? or turning off the monitor's power saving mode?

    • @itsmejak7888
      @itsmejak7888 11 месяцев назад +2

      HDMI to DVI is literally just as easy though

  • @michaelsasse8427
    @michaelsasse8427 11 месяцев назад +1

    One issue I have had with display ports is that some display manufacturers do not leave enough clearance next to the connector. This makes it difficult to remove. And I have had the occasional connector end of the cable fall apart. Have never had that with HDMI.

  • @AninoNiKugi
    @AninoNiKugi 10 месяцев назад +6

    It sucks that most open techs/standards are not the dominant ones in the market especially in rare cases like this where the open option is actually the "better" one.

  • @gbug23
    @gbug23 10 месяцев назад +6

    Edp? He's back?

  • @matthiasberndt7897
    @matthiasberndt7897 5 месяцев назад +2

    4:34:
    What kind of logic is that?? When I walk around with my laptop that's exactly when I *don't* want latches. Because if I walk to the point where the cable isn't long enough anymore, I want it to unplug the cable rather than yanking the laptop out of my hands.

  • @se7enity648
    @se7enity648 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you James. Very informative and not annoying in any way.

  • @furykillerBZ
    @furykillerBZ 10 месяцев назад +3

    Latches matter, especially if you're doing a more professional install, or running cables to places that are harder to reach. When there's latches, you can trust that you at least plugged it in and it will stay plugged in, reducing troubleshooting effort

  • @ThatDeadGuy
    @ThatDeadGuy 11 месяцев назад +24

    The only thing I find lacking from displayport is that we don't really have any displayport capture cards on the market.

    • @draconk
      @draconk 11 месяцев назад +15

      At least you can always use a displayport to hdmi cable to connect to a capture card and set up that fake monitor as a duplicate of your main and it should work fine

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 10 месяцев назад

      That's actually a good point, I never thought about that!

  • @rcfp2006
    @rcfp2006 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm from a time when we had to tune our TV into the coax signal from our Computer. Im still stoked about VGA, and DVI changed my life!

  • @Helveteshit
    @Helveteshit 10 месяцев назад +2

    Finding Daisychaining monitors for a reasonable price is surprisingly difficult. But it is the only option for an easy KVM switch layout.

  • @ed1659
    @ed1659 11 месяцев назад +19

    Also DP stands for another fun combination which can't be said about HDMI

    • @Nickayz2
      @Nickayz2 10 месяцев назад +1

      🤣👌✌

    • @Killer1986Chris
      @Killer1986Chris 10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad that I wasn't the only one thinking it.

    • @MrMOGHammer
      @MrMOGHammer 10 месяцев назад +1

      SOmeone will find something, dont worry. Already stirring some ideas on fun acronyms for HDMI,

  • @Willie6785
    @Willie6785 10 месяцев назад +3

    Really wish it were more common. I'm unable to use freesync on my display (a 120hz 55" qled) because it only has HDMI and my 1080ti only supports it via DP. I believe HDMI is also much more fragile, I've had HDMI connectors just break off while plugged in with little to no accidental force.

  • @Ryzard
    @Ryzard 10 месяцев назад +2

    I just found this channel, new fav ltt channel for quick updates on my knowledge or explanation for my less pc-inclined friends
    Edit - I had no idea that there was display port daisy chaining. This may have just revolutionized my setup...

  • @HDJess
    @HDJess 10 месяцев назад +2

    I actually hate those latches on the DP cables. I use DP when possible because it's just better, but I can appreciate how smooth it is to plug in and out a HDMI, as well as finding the correct orientation (DP is kinda hard to spot in tight spaces, having only one angled corner).

  • @mikek92
    @mikek92 11 месяцев назад +3

    Funny how some TVs have an "tech use only" port. But when you remove the plastic plug, there's a displayport plug! Also, you can get a displayport to hdmi cable that will allow 4k@60fps. Grest when used on my GTX 760 2gb card to display content that it would only give you 4k@30fps otherwise...

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 11 месяцев назад +15

    The problem with eDP is the lack of manufacturers following a standard! It seems like every single eDP connection uses a random non-standardized pinout.

    • @Velocifyer
      @Velocifyer 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is just one eDP but a lot of simalar ones also using DP

    • @internetaddict2850
      @internetaddict2850 11 месяцев назад +4

      I cant hear edp the same again help

  • @jamesrequa6926
    @jamesrequa6926 10 месяцев назад

    Good Video! Most of that I did not know and will find useful. One thing I don't like is the hooks. I have had several customers damage connectors by pulling without pressing the button. Now I grind off the hooks before i deliver the cable.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the easy DP→HDMI conversion is why I have a nicely working USB-C→HTMI cable. Plug it into a DP-capable USB-C port on one end and into an HDMI port on the other and boom, you have a video signal on-screen.

  • @Jayrod64
    @Jayrod64 11 месяцев назад +2

    I switched exclusively to Displayport for connecting my gaming PC to my monitor, and I would honestly never go back to HDMI, save for hooking up a PS3 or other system that requires HDMI. Most of the time DP is faster than HDMI on the latest version. Still carries the same types of signals as well(various HDR formats, high refresh rates, VRR, etc).

  • @falco2911
    @falco2911 7 месяцев назад +3

    Oh man I love EDP

  • @ThimothyL
    @ThimothyL 11 месяцев назад +1

    I noticed that dp cables are not great if they are longer than 3 meters, i got a 5meter one and it acts funky when there is some random interference or something nearby

  • @ArsenicShooter
    @ArsenicShooter 7 месяцев назад

    Sounds very good ! Does it work with dolby atmos as I have my pc connected to the home theater 5.1.4 and a laser tv? I just don't wanna buy an external soundcard just for that.

  • @PinkwolfHeir
    @PinkwolfHeir 11 месяцев назад +3

    Nice information

  • @BlueTubee
    @BlueTubee 10 месяцев назад +4

    get EDP out of my laptop, there's no cupcakes in there...

  • @payayaa
    @payayaa 10 месяцев назад

    hey quick question, my gpu supports dp but my monitor doesnt. should i buy an adapter or is it too much of a hassle and i should just stick to hdmi?

  • @dumd78
    @dumd78 11 месяцев назад

    Is there anyway to see or test cable to see what version it is?

  • @edewaal97
    @edewaal97 11 месяцев назад +18

    I like display port only for the latch. I hate that it doesn't have features like ARC, and the audio support isn't as big as for hdmi.

    • @fabzter
      @fabzter 11 месяцев назад +5

      u use hdmi for audio? well that's also suboptimal

    • @user-xh3nm8oe2l
      @user-xh3nm8oe2l 11 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@fabzterI mean, it's very useful in some cases, for example, game consoles that output sound directly to TV. I myself use HDMI audio output because my headphones are mixing up with gamepad cable if I connect them both to front panel.

    • @RickMyBalls
      @RickMyBalls 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@fabzter hdmi is amazing for audio, what you on about?

    • @thepopeofkeke
      @thepopeofkeke 11 месяцев назад

      DISPLAY cable

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 10 месяцев назад +5

    Also, Gsync has a ton of compatibility issues with HDMI, while DP doesn't.
    So Nvidia users are probably better off using DP instead of HDMI

  • @nevter2712
    @nevter2712 11 месяцев назад

    what if i have a broken laptop but its screen is intact and has touch support is it possible to use it as second monitor for desktop ? and how hard soldering the wires will be ???

  • @rcary
    @rcary 10 месяцев назад

    I have DP out on my pc but I use a hdmi converter to connect to my TV. Is that going to be OK? Looks fine.

  • @bazrazin1
    @bazrazin1 10 месяцев назад +3

    why don't we have a universal standard for everything.

  • @matthew5395
    @matthew5395 10 месяцев назад +11

    So about billet labs...in your response you did not address the prototype allegations...let’s gooooo

  • @Hamza_Phoeeniixx
    @Hamza_Phoeeniixx 9 месяцев назад

    ok so i have hdmi port on my gaming laptop but i wanna use my display port cable to connect to my monitor ,what dongle should i use ? ?

  • @THE-X-Force
    @THE-X-Force 10 месяцев назад

    I didn't know about the daisy-chaining .. thanks for another excellent video!

  • @granatmof
    @granatmof 11 месяцев назад +6

    I actually hate the latch on the DP connectors. I thought had had great grip strength, but I never know if I'm pressing hard enough to pull the plug or not. Granted, since I only use it with my PC, I've disconnected the cables maybe 5 times between moves.

    • @fred_2021
      @fred_2021 11 месяцев назад

      Ditto that pressure thing. IMO a sliding mechanism would be better. Better yet, omit it - I don't see the need, as I've had several USB cables attached for a couple of years with np.

    • @nothing.mp3
      @nothing.mp3 11 месяцев назад +1

      You can buy DP cables without the little latch on them, I only use the non latching versions as it's one less piece that can break

  • @Louis_Varga
    @Louis_Varga 11 месяцев назад +17

    I have found the Displayport latch to be a flaw in some cases. When assisting some users, I have found the latch to damage the port and or the cable itself on some user's devices. I rather the cable just fall out than hang on and damage the port and or cable.

    • @uis246
      @uis246 11 месяцев назад +3

      Latch is optional

    • @antoniohagopian213
      @antoniohagopian213 11 месяцев назад

      It can tear away a port if it's yanked hard enough assuming the latch doesn't break away (but it will damage the port anyways)

    • @shanent5793
      @shanent5793 11 месяцев назад +2

      It should only be used if you're on a vehicle or the display is frequently repositioned. The cables should be secured in a way that isn't going to stress the connections, the latch is only to keep the cable from wiggling out due to oscillations

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@uis246think the suggestion is it should be opt in rather than opt out if you know what I mean

    • @0106johnny
      @0106johnny 10 месяцев назад

      @@zyebormIt is opt-in. The manufacturer has to put it on the cable, it doesn't just materialize out of thin air

  • @testforppapp1901
    @testforppapp1901 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was thinking of switching from HDMI to DP for my gaming monitor for a long time, this video does it, Thanks LMG

  • @simirecipes9918
    @simirecipes9918 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video , can I update my monitor using dp port ? Because I have problem with my lenovo monitor and doesn't support usb ! Thanks for help

  • @spencerlay3318
    @spencerlay3318 10 месяцев назад +6

    3:00 MacOS users beware, Apple has not added support for MST since its addition to DisplayPort 1.2 in 2010. The hardware supports it (a BootCamp install will work OK with MST), but Apple refuses to add support for this standard feature because they want you to use Thunderbolt Display configurations. This came as a nasty surprise when I switched to macOS and suddenly my multi-monitor setup was useless.

  • @ockertoustesizem1234
    @ockertoustesizem1234 10 месяцев назад +2

    0:19 edp445

  • @Eyedunno
    @Eyedunno 10 месяцев назад

    I built a SFF gaming PC for my living room with an RTX A2000 which has only miniDP, and considering I only have HDMI in the living room, the DP++ stuff is huge. I was able to simply buy a miniDP to HDMI cable, and everything works great.
    Also, the latching stuff is good if you rotate your monitor a lot (though the power connector can still get loose).

  • @MrKelaher
    @MrKelaher 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hmm. My recent adventures in UHD say kinda. Biggest issue with DP cables is they are chonky as hell for 4k 60hz+ and hard to route if you have a lot of devices. also the whole usb-c source to DP monitor cable thing is a minefield at high data rates - you have to keep the cables short, and even then "sync dropout" issues seem to happen from time to time. Still a fan though, overall, and you do get digital audio too !

  • @notenoughmonkeys
    @notenoughmonkeys 11 месяцев назад +8

    I've long thought of the two standards were invented to troll us, especially in the post USB-C world. There's some weird curse on me, especially at work, in that if I have a DP cable, all the monitors/laptops I find will be HDMI only, and vice versa. If I promise to always mess up plugging in USB cables at least twice, can we please just have a single connector!

  • @RooSnBert
    @RooSnBert 11 месяцев назад +5

    A lot of companies use docks that can send HDMI and audio out to the peripherals and also send power and ethernet to laptops. I'd love to know some of the best work laptops made just for this setup.

    • @GreenCinco12Official
      @GreenCinco12Official 11 месяцев назад

      everything with a usb-c (better thunderbolt 4).
      There is no "best laptop" for this.

    • @niter43
      @niter43 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@GreenCinco12Officialwell, not everything, you'd want at least ensure that that Type-C supports DP Alt mode.
      And capable of charging, if that's what you want. Even if it does at least for gaming laptops it's worth researching wether that charging can actually bypass battery and run on "AC", once it's charged (e.g. Zephyrus G14 can't -- it'll run off battery till it drops few % below full and recharge again, in endless battery-wearing cycle)

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 10 месяцев назад

      @@niter43 The only way you can ensure it supports all the things is to have something with Thunderbolt 4, given how fragmented and flakey the support of well... any aspect of the standard can be with USB right now.

  • @Grey-The-Skeleton
    @Grey-The-Skeleton 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:16 Ah yes, the cupcake cable.

  • @jeanmont
    @jeanmont 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is super interesting. I wasn't even familiar with DP until now that I'm looking into getting one of those refurbished SFF computers from Amazon. They all come with DP except a few that also have one HDMI port. At first I thought it was because it's cheaper, but I guess it's just better overall (being these mostly business-intended machines).

  • @johnschroeder3072
    @johnschroeder3072 11 месяцев назад +4

    The best thing about DP is actually having a locking connector. Working in AV and not having to worry about it getting pulled out.

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 11 месяцев назад +4

      You prefer to have actual physical damage that costs money to fix if someone trips on the cable? ;-)

    • @darkopz
      @darkopz 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah. I thought we learned our lesson with having these wires locked into expensive equipment.

    • @jarenpocopio6033
      @jarenpocopio6033 11 месяцев назад

      Until you have to pull them out of a monitor

    • @johnschroeder3072
      @johnschroeder3072 11 месяцев назад

      @@jarenpocopio6033 you just have to push, squeeze then pull. I've just done it half a dozen times this week. It's usually pretty easy.

    • @johnschroeder3072
      @johnschroeder3072 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BrianG61UK That is better than stopping a show.

  • @kaiser6594
    @kaiser6594 11 месяцев назад +13

    0:18 I've had minor problems with this type of connectors

    • @Roblafo
      @Roblafo 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol

    • @IlIllllIIlIllIlllIIIII
      @IlIllllIIlIllIlllIIIII 11 месяцев назад +2

      😂 when I heard that I went scrolling trough the comments

  • @specialops1562
    @specialops1562 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:18 certified 445 classic

  • @georgebenson3826
    @georgebenson3826 2 месяца назад +1

    What is the best micro hdmi to hdmi 2.1 cable

  • @Dori744
    @Dori744 10 месяцев назад +20

    Linus: "My company is valued at $100 million."
    Also Linus: "I can't afford to spend $500 to retest."

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 10 месяцев назад +1

      Both are possible? 99% of net worth for nearly every human and entity isn't money they have. Its money they already spent and no longer have. Unless they literally sell everything they own.

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 10 месяцев назад +3

      You don't know how the world works apparently. "Worth" isn't "money you have".

    • @capofantasma97
      @capofantasma97 10 месяцев назад

      Company value vs Liquidity vs Budget per project

  • @kendokaaa
    @kendokaaa 11 месяцев назад +35

    Here's a way it's way worse: A lot of monitors using DP get disconnected from the computer when the monitor goes to sleep. With one monitor and on the desktop that's not usually a problem but with multiple monitors and/or with a game open it causes a lot of issues.
    I still prefer DP over HDMI but this has caused me some frustration and reviewers don't usually test for this. It is down to the implementation of the sleep feature so it's the manufacturers fault but I've seen too many monitors with this issue

    • @timramich
      @timramich 11 месяцев назад +4

      That used to happen to me a few years ago and then there was an update for Windows that fixed it.

    • @GreenCinco12Official
      @GreenCinco12Official 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@timramich running the latest version of windows I can say: no it's not fixed.

    • @orangecat1596
      @orangecat1596 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@GreenCinco12Officialfor you it’s not fixed yeah but for many others it’s fixed or not even an issue lol

    • @nateholden7598
      @nateholden7598 11 месяцев назад +1

      My computer only sleeps when I tell it to.
      Which is rare as it's usually running. And it never sleeps on it's own.

    • @kendokaaa
      @kendokaaa 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@timramich It seems to depend on the implementation of DP in the monitor but it's definitely still a problem with some monitors. I have two that have this issue bu the third doesn't

  • @ClellBiggs
    @ClellBiggs 11 месяцев назад +2

    In my experience fewer compatibility problems are also a plus.

  • @ArcticArca
    @ArcticArca 11 месяцев назад

    4:09 i remember using displayport for the first time and not knowing this, so i broke a vga to displayport adapter i had when trying to take it out of my computer

  • @KinRyuu
    @KinRyuu 10 месяцев назад +3

    Would be interesting to see testing if active DP to HDMI adapter causes latency increase. If so, would be another win for using DP over HDMI

  • @jarredgallaher2643
    @jarredgallaher2643 10 месяцев назад +8

    Whenever a boss asks you "please don't discuss your pay", it is an immediate sign that favoritism is present as well as unequal wages. Cutting corners that are already cut, so unprofessional.

  • @lysandrourena1610
    @lysandrourena1610 11 месяцев назад

    im sure you guys may have an idea. Im on PC and have displayport connected. With HDR on. But whenever im on a game like Destiny 2, and someone joins my xbox party chat and a xbox notification pops up, my screen blacks out, then looks super blurry, then blacks out, then goes back to HDR. Or when im on Warframe, by random chance (Only happens twice at most) will black out my screen, put me back to my windows home screen, and id have to click back on my Warframe tab to get back into the game, and then itll say HDR. How do i make it stop doing that? I want to keep HDR on because it looks really good on the games i play and the quality on the videos i watch.

  • @MiloTheFirst1
    @MiloTheFirst1 11 месяцев назад +1

    I really missed this kind of tech quicky videos.

  • @agustinromerolopez3381
    @agustinromerolopez3381 11 месяцев назад +5

    All good reasons why I prefer Display Port and I would recommend it, however, latches are more of a downside in my opinion.
    I get that it's more secure, but I never really had an HDMI disconnected by accident, and latches make it harder to unplug the cable.
    In all fairness, I rarely disconnect my Display Port, but I just thought it was funny you see it as a plus when it's rather annoying to me.

    • @antoniohagopian213
      @antoniohagopian213 11 месяцев назад +8

      If the cable gets pulled it will destroy everything with it

    • @boltinabottle6307
      @boltinabottle6307 11 месяцев назад +3

      I just had to replace a 75" patient display board in an ICU because the stick PC's HDMI kept sliding out. If it were on DP, this would have been a non-issue.
      I think it really depends on use-case scenario. IT departments prefer DP because it has the lock. Nothing worse than getting a ticket because the connector is loose (actually, getting a ticket because the last tech didn't screw in the VGA is worse).

    • @billwall267
      @billwall267 11 месяцев назад

      then buy a cable without a latch

    • @agustinromerolopez3381
      @agustinromerolopez3381 11 месяцев назад

      @@billwall267 I would but as I said before, it's a really small inconvenience, not worth enough to do so, specially because I've never bought one, they just came with the monitors I buy

  • @macsaeki
    @macsaeki 7 месяцев назад

    I have bunch of dell dp cables. How do i know which one support 1.4?

  • @cherylu4383
    @cherylu4383 7 месяцев назад

    I have an older monitor with a cord that has an hdmi connector (with only one slanted corner) going to the computer from the monitor. The receiving connector is a DB-9. Is there an adapter that will work from an hdmi to the DB-9??

  • @gareth9213
    @gareth9213 10 месяцев назад +5

    Now...is this information accurate? :P

  • @Fohox
    @Fohox 11 месяцев назад +3

    It depends on the monitor and GPU you have. With my monitor and GPU combo my options are HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. And since I'm using a 240hz 1440p HDR 10 bit OLED, HDMI makes more sense.

    • @W1Z_38
      @W1Z_38 9 месяцев назад +1

      ^this and especially if you’re just using a single connection. I’ve tested both hdmi 2.1 and DP 1.4 with my lg 27” oled with my 3080 and hdmi performs better.

  • @Patchow
    @Patchow 9 месяцев назад

    What’s the best brand dp 2.1 to get?

  • @joshgray1410
    @joshgray1410 10 месяцев назад +1

    Should have have done 2 ads and said “We have 2 more reasons DP is better”

  • @jackh.7125
    @jackh.7125 10 месяцев назад +4

    EmbeddedDisplayPort445?????

  • @sid6645
    @sid6645 10 месяцев назад +9

    Gee I wonder how many mistakes riddle this video lmao

  • @jollygoodfellow3957
    @jollygoodfellow3957 11 месяцев назад +2

    EDP is apparently great for displaying cupcakes.

  • @jhamaker
    @jhamaker 7 месяцев назад

    I had actually never even heard of display port until I took an It job 2 years ago. Now it's my go to. I didn't actually know about the display port>hdmi functionality, but figured out it works through trial and error. Same way I figured out hdmi>display port doesn't generally work.
    The idea of display port daisy chaining is new to me, but definitely something I'll be watching for with future monitor purchases.

  • @ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao
    @ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao 11 месяцев назад +6

    why is it called EDP bruhhh

    • @Omegabird113
      @Omegabird113 11 месяцев назад +6

      Embedded Display Port abbreviates to EDP

    • @Pickelhaube808
      @Pickelhaube808 11 месяцев назад

      eDP 4.4.5

  • @ferretlord7051
    @ferretlord7051 11 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly my experience with DP was really bad. Constantly cut off from the slightest nudge. Switched to HDMI sense then. Probably just a cable issue, but i have like 50 hdmi cables laying around, so I don’t have a reason to swap back.

  • @teyrasiridae4704
    @teyrasiridae4704 11 месяцев назад

    I have a dual monitor setup (1 HDMI 1 DisplayPort), but the DisplayPort connected screen keeps changing its color space on its own and with that the resolution of my screen =/ Not sure what triggers it

  • @mianderson86
    @mianderson86 10 месяцев назад +2

    Personally I think they both have a place. While niche, anyone who wants to bitstream audio to their receiver, display port won't help. Yes it can push bitstream but if you convert DP to HDMI it will convert on PC to LPCM before sending. There may be a solution now but since the 20 series I haven't been able to do it without HDMI, plus LG OLED doesn't have DP.

  • @thentil
    @thentil 11 месяцев назад +3

    I prefer display port, but i admit i would happily pay an extra $10 to add an hdmi port to cover the license and hardware. Flexibility is good.

  • @greyhope-loveridge6126
    @greyhope-loveridge6126 11 месяцев назад +2

    The main reason I have a DP cable is because a DP cable for me was 50 pence (80 cents), whereas an equal length HDMI cable was gonna run me £18 ($22.85 USD). How HDMI is that expensive I have no idea.

    • @samsonwu5753
      @samsonwu5753 11 месяцев назад +1

      maybe because if you asked 100 people randomly whats display port was, most wouldnt have a clue, whereas with HDMI, its the cable their TV uses. most would also answer since they never heard of DP, HDMI must be better, hence why shops will charge more for a better cable. (most viewers here should know more expensive doesnt always equal better)

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim 11 месяцев назад

      Dude, where the hell do you live and shop? LOL

  • @therealpepsicat
    @therealpepsicat 7 месяцев назад

    Embedded Display Port: i was just here to get my cupcake!

  • @cordesco
    @cordesco 9 месяцев назад

    my old gtx 1060 is conected to a 1080p 75hz monitor by an hdmi cable; Would a DP cable give me some advantage?

  • @williamthecoolboy
    @williamthecoolboy 11 месяцев назад +2

    ok but who else burst out laughing when he said "edp"