yeah, now if they could only actually give products said dp2.0 ports... for now i'm still better off with hdmi2.1 vs my dp1.4a ports for 4k 120hz dynamic HDR.
My entire monitor fell off of my desk once and the only thing that stopped it from smashing into a billion pieces was the raw strength of displayport. Didn't even need a new cable!
you probably need a new desk if things start falling down from it. If it is because you accidentally knocked it off the table yourself, in that case you need to upgrade your brain to a non clumsy one. Should work too.
@@chutcentral It doesn't really, tell that to all the companies running servers with linux which if I remember correctly has a 90% share of servers, or the plethera of companies that base their stuff off of open source stuff, which apple, android and playstation all do, with apple and playstation using BSD and with android using linux.
@@mathman0569 it doesnt matter, it really depends on how good a software or hardware was made, the fact if it is proprietary or open source is not related at all.
@@shanent5793FOSS (Free and Open Source) does not mean free of cost in either sense. Free means it's free to use and manipulate and change. Open source means the source or source code is easily accessible. Technically something can be "free" But you still have to pay for it and you can't directly see the source code. And for open source it could be expensive but as long as someone can buy it and easily see it's open source. There are some caveats with the legal definition and license's that may contradict this or something idk.
DP alt over type C also allows for full function of touch enabled portable monitors. I use it everyday with dex when im working from home as a secondary computing device mounted in front of my keyboard under my primary display. If i had to use this in hdmi mode it would require another mouse, or if connected to my pc, dealing with cursor transitions between a 34 ultrawide and a 13 inch 16:9. DP alt is also how the current crop of AR glasses work. I use it with dex and its just one cable for the whole setup, everything else is wireless.
Can you give more details on your setup? I have an external monitor with HDMI & USB C input, an s21, and a laptop with only DP out, so I'm curious how I could do something similar 😄
I use DP with two monitors, as DP is required in my setup to get 165hz over 144Hz. The one huge pain and downside is that windows considers a monitor going to sleep in DP as a disconnection and re-connection when they come back. In contrast, HDMI monitors are "always on" in that regard. I use a utility called "MonitorKeeper" to keep window positions stable across re-connections but for whatever reason it doesn't always work like it used to.
My monitor have the feature optional, in the settings I can put Alwas On or Low Power, in the first I can shutdown the display and still will be listed on Windows, low power will disconnect the monitor.
that's the most anoying part of DP to me... how the hell this thing just cant tell the difference between no screen and a sleeping scree?? But on my side I've "fixed" the issue using a DP splitter. Somehow it make all my 3 screen wake and sleep at the same time, avoiding windows to mess with my windows. Also updating to win11 helped a bit as its way better at placing windows on the right monitor when it wake up.. Before I was also a long time user of MonitorKeeper
Why does it matter at all if a monitor takes an extra 3-5 seconds to wake up/go to sleep? Seems like an absolute non issue to me but maybe I'm not seeing how important those prescious 6-10 seconds per sleep cycle are
@@itsmejak7888 It matters when your OS (and win10 is one of them) will try to move open windows around at each screen change, but does not move them back at the right place... It would have been more obvious if you've tried to look at what's MonitorKeeper doing for example, instead of assuming people just cant wait for 5sec unlike superior being like you... Sry for the salt, I may have stored some during my years of using win10 and having it moving my windows around x)
@@itsmejak7888 I can find some problems on games when the screen are not same, by example, I have three E231 but one is vertical for code or documents, that is using DVI and the others is DP, one time I shutdown the monitors having the game open and then it went into the vertical and have a bug in the resolution XD was fun and I had to restar the game, but only change the settings to always on avoid the monitor lost connection and work fine.
I wish DisplayPort was more standard, because it’s more capable in a lot of ways. Edit: by “more standard”, I meant more common especially on things like TVs.
The only caveat to the little latches is when a display manufacturer orients the connector incorrectly and you have to install the DP cable with the latch release button sandwiched between the back of the monitor. You’ll have to use a tool to depress the latch release if you want to get that cable off. Yes, it does happen but I’ll still take DP over HDMI any day.
@@AbdullaBubshait Agreed. I find the display port connector much more secure than the HDMI connector, even without the latches. The large rectangular shape has made tolerances tighter than it is with most HDMI connectors, and as a result a much securer fit. I've only ever been worried about an HDMI connection being unplugged.
Another bad thing is you need like 10 Tonne of force just to hold down the latch meanwhile you can’t even tell if you have pressed it down or not, so when you pull on the cable there’s a 50% chance you destroy the monitor and or the cable when you pull
FYI. If you're running a 10xx, 9xx & 7xx series gpu, you might need to update your gpu's *firmware* to get dp 1.4 to work. This update isn't included with drivers. This problem manifested when my PC boot looped and never started after I got New monitor. My valve index was causing the problem with the mismatch.
I found out the hard way when I finally bought a display that does support DP1.4 and wondered why I don't have video out until Linux loaded. Turns out the update is windows only which made me glad I keep a small windows install for times like this
@@temporaer at least on my 1070 it worked after OS was booted -- just as with commenter above. What didn't work is accessing (seeing) UEFI. Updating DP firmware fixed that. So you might try that, but if there's no picture at all within Windows, then probably it's broken (or maybe cable issue or monitor needs manual input selection?)
There is almost no reason for HDMI to exist these days. It only became the defacto standard because film studios wanted content protection when films were sourced from devices like Blu-Ray. In the age of streaming that's no longer an issue. It would be good if TV companies started incorporating at least one DP input as standard so at least people would have the choice of what cable they want to use.
HDMI's main advantage is in sound, which makes it useful for TVs and Home Cinema settings. In an office the display port is useful, but my gaming and media machine is using HDMI all the way.
One of the main reasons I prefer display port is the fact that I don't have to gamble if the cable is going to actually support the resolution/refresh rate I want to use. When you have a random pile of new and old HDMI cables it's really hard to tell which ones are using the newer standards and you probably end up with a black screen if happen to use the decade+ old cable to try to run a 4K display
DP cables will always work no matter, It's just they differ in bandwidth capability (but much wider scales per cable unlike HDMI). If you get one that can't reach 8k 60hz for example (dp 1.4) it will just default back to whatever it's capability.. 4k 60hz (dp 1.1) and that's as far as you can take it.
@@username_login_password that is horseshit. every monitor i've ever owned had both DP and HDMI ports. and if i went to microcenter and checked every monitor there, 95% would have both as well.
@@oldfrend that's bc they are newer. Older monitors, specifically old Dell, HP, Lenovo, even brands that normally don't make monitors (i found a couple of 90s Hitachi monitors at my work), only exclusively had either HDMI or DisplayPort, I have a Dell ST2310f and the only ports it has is VGA, DVI and HDMI. I have no clue of why, but maybe it's because the monitor controllers weren't capable of seeing more than 3 ports at a time? The point is, if u have a monitor made in between 2002 to 2012, it's most likely gonna have one of the modern digital standards, depending on the brand and how cheap it is, and the year of course.
DP++ can also output to a DVI Single Link connection with cheap passive adapters. This is useful when using old monitors that do not have HDMI nor DP. Daisy Chaing is a very nice feature, wich is present on too few monitors.
@@timathypotato8034 you might be able to update the firmware of the adapter if you're lucky. does turning the monitor off/on or swapping input source to and fro not do it? or turning off the monitor's power saving mode?
I was planning to buy an HDMI cable but since you guys are so good at timing I might keep my money. Thank you so much for all the great work that you do!
One thing that's neat about displayport is that if you look at the pinout, there are 8 wires for transmitting video signal, whereas HDMI has 6. Less shielding is needed, assuming an identical conductor gauge, for an equivalent signal over HDMI because there's less bandwidth per wire, meaning that you can have a more interference-resistant, lower frequency signal.
That's not true at all. HDMI 2.0 is the last version to use 6 wires for data, and even then it doesn't need more shielding, because it transmits 6 Gbps per twisted pair while DP transmits 8.1. HDMI 2.1 uses 8 wires just as DP, and drives them at 12 Gbps, while DP 2.0 drives them at either 10, 13.5 or 20 Gbps.
It's not really the number of data lines, but rather the way HDMI is designed. Too much bloat in the standard, limiting the one thing it's supposed to do, in favor of DRM features.
As someone with a moving train computer case that would be setup at events like PAX, DisplayPort was a must. Tried HDMI once when our DisplayPort cable had issues from years of movement, and never again -- it kept falling out.
If the 3 big names in TV market added a display port by default on all their product, HDMI would be done in 5 years, just the time it take for the new console gen to arrive and for every media player manufacturer to add a DP too
It will never happen because HDMI has DRM. DisplayPort doesn't have DRM. Therefore, DisplayPort is the inferior port as far as corporations are concerned.
@@MrGamelover23At this day an age DRM on connectors is like wet tissue, easy to spoof, also useless since all content can be streamed through a PC either way and DRM there is 100% useless, its only useful for physical media and almost no one buys or uses it.
@@MrGamelover23 why Tv manufacturers would care about DRM ? ok maybe sony since they also have a foot in the cinema market but LG and samsung, why should they care ?
@@Alice.59 Because major manufacturers want DRM. It's the whole reason why component was dropped from Blu Ray players. They want DRM so you don't potentially do something they don't want you to do. DisplayPort has no DRM so it would likely just become another port on a TV just like VGA and Component were on HDMI equipped TVs
@@Alice.59 If you're connecting the game console, it's using HDMI. If you're watching a DVD or a Blu-ray, it would use HDMI. Why? Copyright and DRM. You use what the equipment uses.
Latches matter, especially if you're doing a more professional install, or running cables to places that are harder to reach. When there's latches, you can trust that you at least plugged it in and it will stay plugged in, reducing troubleshooting effort
4:34: What kind of logic is that?? When I walk around with my laptop that's exactly when I *don't* want latches. Because if I walk to the point where the cable isn't long enough anymore, I want it to unplug the cable rather than yanking the laptop out of my hands.
Edit: Apparently DisplayPort supports HDCP. I'm at a loss, then. For 6, that's actually a divisive one. I'm fine with it since it reminds me of the old screw fixtures for VGA and DVI connectors so I'm already familiar with needing to undo some kind of retention mechanism, but I've seen plenty of people that HATE those latches and prefer to only buy DisplayPort cables that lack them. There is one single reason that HDMI is more widespread; HDCP encryption. It pleases the entertainment industry that is disproportionately terrified of piracy to the point where they can end up making things inconvenient for the legitimate customer. So of course they'll prefer the standard that lets them lock things down that little bit more. It generally isn't a major hurdle for the consumer any more (Occasionally the HDCP handshake breaks and you need to reset the devices connected together to get it to work properly.), but I still remember how the PS3's HDMI output even applied HDCP over gameplay. This makes it impossible to capture gameplay off of it over HDMI without something that can strip out the HDCP protection; either that or you need some method of capturing a component video out instead.
My entire workplace (~2k people) is on DP now. Having switched from a desktop to a laptop+dock solution (to support WFH and people going on work trips) we found we had to replace a large number of old monitors using HDMI since the combination of docks outputting DP, KVM, and a HDMI adapter to a old monitor caused a ton of video issues (sometimes even without a KVM!)
Fun fact: DP has always been more capable since it was always meant for computers (and so prioritized bandwidth) unlike HDMI which was originally only meant for TVs
The latches are one of the small but significant reasons why DP is for computers and office settings, and HDMI caught on so well in consumer electronics. Most end users would break the cable trying to pry it out of their television, not understanding the latch.
I just found this channel, new fav ltt channel for quick updates on my knowledge or explanation for my less pc-inclined friends Edit - I had no idea that there was display port daisy chaining. This may have just revolutionized my setup...
In theory it's fine, if they use the money to keep improving things, but the rate of improvement seems a bit lack lustre so it's just become a rent seeking thing.
It sucks that most open techs/standards are not the dominant ones in the market especially in rare cases like this where the open option is actually the "better" one.
At least you can always use a displayport to hdmi cable to connect to a capture card and set up that fake monitor as a duplicate of your main and it should work fine
The problem with eDP is the lack of manufacturers following a standard! It seems like every single eDP connection uses a random non-standardized pinout.
At an old job about 8 years ago now I got a new monitor.. a really nice 24” Dell and it had DP.. I had never used it so I bought a cable too since the video card had a DP connection. I loved everything about it. That monitor ran so well and was pretty amazing and I really liked the satisfying and durable connection on both ends. Never had any flicker issues and always looked sharp. Lot of that was the display but yeah. HDMI 2.1 and arc are great but don’t seem to be the same quality.. or maybe consistency is the better word. Why isn’t DP on like fire sticks and gaming systems??
Really wish it were more common. I'm unable to use freesync on my display (a 120hz 55" qled) because it only has HDMI and my 1080ti only supports it via DP. I believe HDMI is also much more fragile, I've had HDMI connectors just break off while plugged in with little to no accidental force.
@@fabzterI mean, it's very useful in some cases, for example, game consoles that output sound directly to TV. I myself use HDMI audio output because my headphones are mixing up with gamepad cable if I connect them both to front panel.
Funny how some TVs have an "tech use only" port. But when you remove the plastic plug, there's a displayport plug! Also, you can get a displayport to hdmi cable that will allow 4k@60fps. Grest when used on my GTX 760 2gb card to display content that it would only give you 4k@30fps otherwise...
The latches are kinda annoying since if you want to unplug it, you need to press it to remove the cable. If not you might damage the port of you don't do it right.
It’s absurd on flagship graphics cards and monitors that we don’t have display port 2.1 uhbr 80. I mean if it doesn’t cost any royalties and it’s on their top end products, it makes no sense why it’s not there.
I think the easy DP→HDMI conversion is why I have a nicely working USB-C→HTMI cable. Plug it into a DP-capable USB-C port on one end and into an HDMI port on the other and boom, you have a video signal on-screen.
I actually hate those latches on the DP cables. I use DP when possible because it's just better, but I can appreciate how smooth it is to plug in and out a HDMI, as well as finding the correct orientation (DP is kinda hard to spot in tight spaces, having only one angled corner).
I have found the Displayport latch to be a flaw in some cases. When assisting some users, I have found the latch to damage the port and or the cable itself on some user's devices. I rather the cable just fall out than hang on and damage the port and or cable.
It should only be used if you're on a vehicle or the display is frequently repositioned. The cables should be secured in a way that isn't going to stress the connections, the latch is only to keep the cable from wiggling out due to oscillations
I switched exclusively to Displayport for connecting my gaming PC to my monitor, and I would honestly never go back to HDMI, save for hooking up a PS3 or other system that requires HDMI. Most of the time DP is faster than HDMI on the latest version. Still carries the same types of signals as well(various HDR formats, high refresh rates, VRR, etc).
@@smann7236 Probably not a deal breaker if a laptop doesn't have HDMI(though it is nice to have), as it's more than possible have video output over USB Type C, though you need at least USB 3.1 Gen 1 and a good USB Type C Hub with HDMI output.
Your older Nvidia cards may be able to make use of G-Sync Compatibility (RTX 2000 and lower) when using DisplayPort. This is especially useful to know for gaming laptops because most often, one of the USB-C ports is "DisplayPort over USB-C". So even if your laptop is not G-Sync certified (meaning that the built-in screen has no G-Sync) your external monitor CAN use G-Sync.
Whenever a boss asks you "please don't discuss your pay", it is an immediate sign that favoritism is present as well as unequal wages. Cutting corners that are already cut, so unprofessional.
My only pet peeve with DP is that it disconnects if the monitor is turned off or put in stand by, or sometimes even if you just change the input source, HDMI doesnt, I had my fair share of headaches because of that, a lot of bluescreens as well
Display port allows me to switch my dual monitor setup to single monitor. When turning second monitor off it moves everything to monitor 1 on my macs automatically. When I turn the second monitor on it automatically switches to duel display mode
3:00 MacOS users beware, Apple has not added support for MST since its addition to DisplayPort 1.2 in 2010. The hardware supports it (a BootCamp install will work OK with MST), but Apple refuses to add support for this standard feature because they want you to use Thunderbolt Display configurations. This came as a nasty surprise when I switched to macOS and suddenly my multi-monitor setup was useless.
I specifically buy DP cables without latches. Latches to me feel like they increase my chances of messing things up if something catches. Rather the cable come out than the whole port.
One thing i don't like about DP is that when i turn off my monitors it is no longer detected and moves all open apps to the main desktop, really annoying when your run a multiple screen setup that has to be on 24/7. None of the "fixes" i found work either.
Personally I think they both have a place. While niche, anyone who wants to bitstream audio to their receiver, display port won't help. Yes it can push bitstream but if you convert DP to HDMI it will convert on PC to LPCM before sending. There may be a solution now but since the 20 series I haven't been able to do it without HDMI, plus LG OLED doesn't have DP.
I actually hate the latch on the DP connectors. I thought had had great grip strength, but I never know if I'm pressing hard enough to pull the plug or not. Granted, since I only use it with my PC, I've disconnected the cables maybe 5 times between moves.
Ditto that pressure thing. IMO a sliding mechanism would be better. Better yet, omit it - I don't see the need, as I've had several USB cables attached for a couple of years with np.
Question about the BenQ monitor in the video: is the USB-B connector only there in case the USB-C connector is not used? I mean: when a laptop is connected by USB-C, *all* communication (even bidirectional) goes over that single cable.
Speaking of latches on DP connectors am I the only person who misses the screws that VGA and DVi connectors had to secure the connector? It's best of both worlds: you can use them to ensure that the cable isn't going anywhere but you don't have to use them if you don't want to.
What you showed in the laptop is not eDP but a LVDS cable. In fact, the eDP that is in laptops is just virtual (as traces on the motherboard connecting some chips).
The one saving grace for me for using HDMI is that DP doesn't carry audio signals. I run both of my computers through a Yamaha 7.2.2 receiver then out to a 43" Samsung HDTV. Have a 5.1 home speaker system hooked to it (Sony bookshelf speakers, Sony Center/surrounds, Sony Sub) and can run all of it through 1 HDMI cable per computer, and 1 HDMI out to TV. Can't do that with DP.
A lot of companies use docks that can send HDMI and audio out to the peripherals and also send power and ethernet to laptops. I'd love to know some of the best work laptops made just for this setup.
@@GreenCinco12Officialwell, not everything, you'd want at least ensure that that Type-C supports DP Alt mode. And capable of charging, if that's what you want. Even if it does at least for gaming laptops it's worth researching wether that charging can actually bypass battery and run on "AC", once it's charged (e.g. Zephyrus G14 can't -- it'll run off battery till it drops few % below full and recharge again, in endless battery-wearing cycle)
@@niter43 The only way you can ensure it supports all the things is to have something with Thunderbolt 4, given how fragmented and flakey the support of well... any aspect of the standard can be with USB right now.
I use DP cable because when I turn my PC off, my monitor goes to sleep immediately while with HDMI my monitor would say "No signal" and would keep showing this message for at least 2 minutes until finally going to sleep.
I've long thought of the two standards were invented to troll us, especially in the post USB-C world. There's some weird curse on me, especially at work, in that if I have a DP cable, all the monitors/laptops I find will be HDMI only, and vice versa. If I promise to always mess up plugging in USB cables at least twice, can we please just have a single connector!
One issue I have had with display ports is that some display manufacturers do not leave enough clearance next to the connector. This makes it difficult to remove. And I have had the occasional connector end of the cable fall apart. Have never had that with HDMI.
Both are possible? 99% of net worth for nearly every human and entity isn't money they have. Its money they already spent and no longer have. Unless they literally sell everything they own.
a lot of older monitors don't have display port connections, most of us aren't updating our monitor every couple years, i'm still rocking an asus from 10 years ago that still has a dvi connection
It depends on the monitor and GPU you have. With my monitor and GPU combo my options are HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. And since I'm using a 240hz 1440p HDR 10 bit OLED, HDMI makes more sense.
^this and especially if you’re just using a single connection. I’ve tested both hdmi 2.1 and DP 1.4 with my lg 27” oled with my 3080 and hdmi performs better.
All good reasons why I prefer Display Port and I would recommend it, however, latches are more of a downside in my opinion. I get that it's more secure, but I never really had an HDMI disconnected by accident, and latches make it harder to unplug the cable. In all fairness, I rarely disconnect my Display Port, but I just thought it was funny you see it as a plus when it's rather annoying to me.
I just had to replace a 75" patient display board in an ICU because the stick PC's HDMI kept sliding out. If it were on DP, this would have been a non-issue. I think it really depends on use-case scenario. IT departments prefer DP because it has the lock. Nothing worse than getting a ticket because the connector is loose (actually, getting a ticket because the last tech didn't screw in the VGA is worse).
@@BuildWall I would but as I said before, it's a really small inconvenience, not worth enough to do so, specially because I've never bought one, they just came with the monitors I buy
Honestly my experience with DP was really bad. Constantly cut off from the slightest nudge. Switched to HDMI sense then. Probably just a cable issue, but i have like 50 hdmi cables laying around, so I don’t have a reason to swap back.
I noticed that dp cables are not great if they are longer than 3 meters, i got a 5meter one and it acts funky when there is some random interference or something nearby
i remeber when i got my first DP monitor and graphics card. the guy selling the monitor was very explicit in the "don't yank out the cable. press the release button or you will damage the monitor" i guess warranty doesn't like torn DP ports
Well, DP drawbacks that make HDMI about 10x more practical for daily use: 1. Even a grandma knows and can plug in an HDMI cable. You mention “DisplayPort” and the only people that recognize that are PC gamers and IT guys. 2. Active/passive/miniDP/eDP/daisychaining/versioning (that even monitors have to have options to change between) all make compatibility and understanding+having the right cable with the right interface and specs, make DP the ‘nerd knob’ over-complex standard. 3. Those stupid prongs on the full-size DP are almost as bad as the screws on VGA/DVI used to be. But yeah technically, DP is the de-facto superior standard for PC-to-Monitor interfacing. If you want 240hz 4k+ HDR and power+data+video-over-USBC, you go DP. If you do anything on a TV, or a non-computer, DP becomes the worst standard out there- the new DVI or USB 3-pre-C days nightmare.
It's only good for video. If you care about audio you need HDMI. There is no high end audio receiver that even has display port support. I see DP as just a 'video' cable, that's it. HDMI does it all, they even made HDMI w/ Ethernet.
@@Argedis I mean I fully agree that “HDMI does it all”, but even the stupid name “DisplayPort” is misleading because it does in fact, carry audio too. Mark one more on the “why DP sucks” board because of how misleading the name itself is. It carries high-end multi-channel audio same as HDMI, but why would anyone assume that? It makes me hate DP even more.
@@skullingtonturtle8080 Display Port 'can' carry audio but since there's no strict standards like HDMI it would be a compatability nightmare. Also like I said there's basically no HiFi support anyway. No high end audio receiver has display port.
HDMI is far more feature-split than DP. You never know which cable supports what and it's usually even harder to find out what the device in question supports.
I think both are excellent options and to use what you got, but it is good to raise consumer awareness that DP is an open standard, and therefore people can be more sympathetic when they see a port that isn't HDMI on their device, especially when they know the advantages and future proofing of such a connector
Seriously? Why the heck does every monitor have multiple HDMI ports and only one DP, if the DP is free? Make the ports on the monitors match the ports on my PC! Let me run 2 DPs into it and get some splitscreen action going!
I feel like I might see the death of displayport before I ever get to use one though.. 🙇♀It's been over a decade and I've still never seen a displayport _setup_ in the wild either. I never got to use firewire either and that looked awesome too. -- I'll say though: Monitors that charge the laptop are great, especially when paired with a GaN mini charger because it saves sooo much space in a bag. I used an AOPEN FireLegend monitor for work that came with its own 65watt USB-C brick and yeah.. that monitor could PD-fastcharge the thinkpads and legions I had to use at work.
display port is hugely popular in professional/business environments, and we all know how long it takes for those to change from a standard to another.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Yeah, DP is the standard in enterprise environments (I work Desktop support II in a hospital). It's either VGA or DP, and anytime I see a DP-VGA converter being used, I swap it out if the monitor can support DP. VGA looks awful by comparison.
Honestly latches on DP are a downside of DP, if you trip on a cable you pull down your laptop/desktop while with HDMI it gets usually disconnected. It’s possibile of course to get a DP cable without latches but most monitors and GPUs include only cables with latches, so you have to buy extra if you want to get rid of the annoying latches.
Displayport latches are annoying AF most of the times though, needing to press way too hard to be practical while also pulling for most cheaper cables... The risk of unwanted disconnect is so low considering the depth of the plug that it's not really needed IMO.
The main reason I have a DP cable is because a DP cable for me was 50 pence (80 cents), whereas an equal length HDMI cable was gonna run me £18 ($22.85 USD). How HDMI is that expensive I have no idea.
maybe because if you asked 100 people randomly whats display port was, most wouldnt have a clue, whereas with HDMI, its the cable their TV uses. most would also answer since they never heard of DP, HDMI must be better, hence why shops will charge more for a better cable. (most viewers here should know more expensive doesnt always equal better)
Latest display port standards also support higher resolutions at higher refresh rates than the latest HDMI standard as well.
yeah, now if they could only actually give products said dp2.0 ports... for now i'm still better off with hdmi2.1 vs my dp1.4a ports for 4k 120hz dynamic HDR.
I mean, hdmi 2.1 can do 2160p144 10-bit uncompressed or 4320p120 10-bit with DSC.. so not sure it really matters THAT much.. but yes, it is one bonus
@@RainboomDashhdmi 2.1 can not do 120 8k the max on hdmi 2.1 is 8k 60 or 4k 120. Get your info right.
@@martheunen The same thing is true for HDMI though. I have yet to use or even see a single device with HDMI 2.1.
@@PJM257 tons of videocards, tv's and consoles have them... there is more hdmi 2.1 available vs dp2.0 afaik
My entire monitor fell off of my desk once and the only thing that stopped it from smashing into a billion pieces was the raw strength of displayport. Didn't even need a new cable!
you probably need a new desk if things start falling down from it. If it is because you accidentally knocked it off the table yourself, in that case you need to upgrade your brain to a non clumsy one. Should work too.
That's pretty good pro-DP testimony
damn, thats legit.
DP is amazing. Especially because it's an open source standard that can be properly implemented in open source drivers. (Unlike HDMI)
Open source sucks
@@chutcentral It doesn't really, tell that to all the companies running servers with linux which if I remember correctly has a 90% share of servers, or the plethera of companies that base their stuff off of open source stuff, which apple, android and playstation all do, with apple and playstation using BSD and with android using linux.
@@mathman0569 it doesnt matter, it really depends on how good a software or hardware was made, the fact if it is proprietary or open source is not related at all.
They said you need to pay a fee and join VESA to get access to the spec. That's not an open source
@@shanent5793FOSS (Free and Open Source) does not mean free of cost in either sense.
Free means it's free to use and manipulate and change. Open source means the source or source code is easily accessible.
Technically something can be "free" But you still have to pay for it and you can't directly see the source code.
And for open source it could be expensive but as long as someone can buy it and easily see it's open source.
There are some caveats with the legal definition and license's that may contradict this or something idk.
DP alt over type C also allows for full function of touch enabled portable monitors. I use it everyday with dex when im working from home as a secondary computing device mounted in front of my keyboard under my primary display.
If i had to use this in hdmi mode it would require another mouse, or if connected to my pc, dealing with cursor transitions between a 34 ultrawide and a 13 inch 16:9.
DP alt is also how the current crop of AR glasses work. I use it with dex and its just one cable for the whole setup, everything else is wireless.
Can you give more details on your setup? I have an external monitor with HDMI & USB C input, an s21, and a laptop with only DP out, so I'm curious how I could do something similar 😄
Tried looking up EDP and now I'm on a watchlist.
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LOL
He only wanted some cupcakes.
What does it mean? Like the watch list one? I looked it up and went through like 4 pages of results with nothing suss
I use DP with two monitors, as DP is required in my setup to get 165hz over 144Hz. The one huge pain and downside is that windows considers a monitor going to sleep in DP as a disconnection and re-connection when they come back. In contrast, HDMI monitors are "always on" in that regard.
I use a utility called "MonitorKeeper" to keep window positions stable across re-connections but for whatever reason it doesn't always work like it used to.
My monitor have the feature optional, in the settings I can put Alwas On or Low Power, in the first I can shutdown the display and still will be listed on Windows, low power will disconnect the monitor.
that's the most anoying part of DP to me... how the hell this thing just cant tell the difference between no screen and a sleeping scree??
But on my side I've "fixed" the issue using a DP splitter. Somehow it make all my 3 screen wake and sleep at the same time, avoiding windows to mess with my windows. Also updating to win11 helped a bit as its way better at placing windows on the right monitor when it wake up..
Before I was also a long time user of MonitorKeeper
Why does it matter at all if a monitor takes an extra 3-5 seconds to wake up/go to sleep?
Seems like an absolute non issue to me but maybe I'm not seeing how important those prescious 6-10 seconds per sleep cycle are
@@itsmejak7888 It matters when your OS (and win10 is one of them) will try to move open windows around at each screen change, but does not move them back at the right place...
It would have been more obvious if you've tried to look at what's MonitorKeeper doing for example, instead of assuming people just cant wait for 5sec unlike superior being like you...
Sry for the salt, I may have stored some during my years of using win10 and having it moving my windows around x)
@@itsmejak7888 I can find some problems on games when the screen are not same, by example, I have three E231 but one is vertical for code or documents, that is using DVI and the others is DP, one time I shutdown the monitors having the game open and then it went into the vertical and have a bug in the resolution XD was fun and I had to restar the game, but only change the settings to always on avoid the monitor lost connection and work fine.
I wish DisplayPort was more standard, because it’s more capable in a lot of ways.
Edit: by “more standard”, I meant more common especially on things like TVs.
I think why HDMI is standard is all the DRM stuff and that people are just used to it.
There should be one for masses one for ethusiasts
@@idzkk That's basically how it is. HDMI for the masses and DP for enthusiasts. Yeahh boi. Typed to you from....a displayport. sorta.
@@idzkkwhy? What's stopping the masses from using DP?
Me who wants RCA lol.
The only caveat to the little latches is when a display manufacturer orients the connector incorrectly and you have to install the DP cable with the latch release button sandwiched between the back of the monitor. You’ll have to use a tool to depress the latch release if you want to get that cable off. Yes, it does happen but I’ll still take DP over HDMI any day.
I make sure to stock a bunch of cables without latches for that reason.
@@AbdullaBubshait Agreed. I find the display port connector much more secure than the HDMI connector, even without the latches. The large rectangular shape has made tolerances tighter than it is with most HDMI connectors, and as a result a much securer fit. I've only ever been worried about an HDMI connection being unplugged.
Another bad thing is you need like 10 Tonne of force just to hold down the latch meanwhile you can’t even tell if you have pressed it down or not, so when you pull on the cable there’s a 50% chance you destroy the monitor and or the cable when you pull
@@patfre That's just on cheaper cables from my experience.
Lol yes, those struggles of a PC nerd... life is hard.
FYI. If you're running a 10xx, 9xx & 7xx series gpu, you might need to update your gpu's *firmware* to get dp 1.4 to work. This update isn't included with drivers.
This problem manifested when my PC boot looped and never started after I got New monitor. My valve index was causing the problem with the mismatch.
This is also true for 9xx and 745/750/750 Ti and Titan X both Maxwell and Pascal and finally Titan XP.
I found out the hard way when I finally bought a display that does support DP1.4 and wondered why I don't have video out until Linux loaded. Turns out the update is windows only which made me glad I keep a small windows install for times like this
this explains why my DP never worked. it is a used card and i thought the previous owner destroyed them?
@@temporaer at least on my 1070 it worked after OS was booted -- just as with commenter above.
What didn't work is accessing (seeing) UEFI. Updating DP firmware fixed that.
So you might try that, but if there's no picture at all within Windows, then probably it's broken (or maybe cable issue or monitor needs manual input selection?)
You don’t upgrade hardware / DP that way 😂 You purchase new hardware with the right components from the start.
There is almost no reason for HDMI to exist these days. It only became the defacto standard because film studios wanted content protection when films were sourced from devices like Blu-Ray. In the age of streaming that's no longer an issue.
It would be good if TV companies started incorporating at least one DP input as standard so at least people would have the choice of what cable they want to use.
I think Netflix and co are still being protected. So its still an issue but DP can handle it as well.
HDMI's main advantage is in sound, which makes it useful for TVs and Home Cinema settings. In an office the display port is useful, but my gaming and media machine is using HDMI all the way.
@@martineylesDP can also carry sound
@@ThunderingRoar Can DP carry Dolby Atmos and DTS X both to and from a display?
@@martineyles good point and this is why I'm not against HDMI inclusion as people should have the choice.
One of the main reasons I prefer display port is the fact that I don't have to gamble if the cable is going to actually support the resolution/refresh rate I want to use. When you have a random pile of new and old HDMI cables it's really hard to tell which ones are using the newer standards and you probably end up with a black screen if happen to use the decade+ old cable to try to run a 4K display
There are five DP transmission speeds, and not every cable supports all of them, so the problem isn't exclusive to HDMI. Throw away those old cables
DP cables will always work no matter, It's just they differ in bandwidth capability (but much wider scales per cable unlike HDMI). If you get one that can't reach 8k 60hz for example (dp 1.4) it will just default back to whatever it's capability.. 4k 60hz (dp 1.1) and that's as far as you can take it.
@@shanent5793or donate them, creating etrash is a shitty thing to do if you have the ability to not do it.
@@username_login_password that is horseshit. every monitor i've ever owned had both DP and HDMI ports. and if i went to microcenter and checked every monitor there, 95% would have both as well.
@@oldfrend that's bc they are newer. Older monitors, specifically old Dell, HP, Lenovo, even brands that normally don't make monitors (i found a couple of 90s Hitachi monitors at my work), only exclusively had either HDMI or DisplayPort, I have a Dell ST2310f and the only ports it has is VGA, DVI and HDMI. I have no clue of why, but maybe it's because the monitor controllers weren't capable of seeing more than 3 ports at a time? The point is, if u have a monitor made in between 2002 to 2012, it's most likely gonna have one of the modern digital standards, depending on the brand and how cheap it is, and the year of course.
DP++ can also output to a DVI Single Link connection with cheap passive adapters. This is useful when using old monitors that do not have HDMI nor DP.
Daisy Chaing is a very nice feature, wich is present on too few monitors.
iirc the reverse is true too, you just don't get audio obviously
maybe its just the cheap adapters I have, but everytime I reboot I have unplug and plug in my dp to dvi adapters in order to get output
@@timathypotato8034 I have many DP-DVI adapters distributed among many PCs. None of them showed that behavior.
@@timathypotato8034 you might be able to update the firmware of the adapter if you're lucky. does turning the monitor off/on or swapping input source to and fro not do it? or turning off the monitor's power saving mode?
HDMI to DVI is literally just as easy though
I was planning to buy an HDMI cable but since you guys are so good at timing I might keep my money. Thank you so much for all the great work that you do!
just remember, audio does not pass through DisplayPort.
@@LeonLionHeart Yes it does. you're thinking of DVI.
@@LeonLionHeart ?
@@LeonLionHeart I'm literally listening to the video through my monitor speakers lmao
@@hypershadow5gthere are DVIs with audio pins tho
One thing that's neat about displayport is that if you look at the pinout, there are 8 wires for transmitting video signal, whereas HDMI has 6. Less shielding is needed, assuming an identical conductor gauge, for an equivalent signal over HDMI because there's less bandwidth per wire, meaning that you can have a more interference-resistant, lower frequency signal.
That's not true at all. HDMI 2.0 is the last version to use 6 wires for data, and even then it doesn't need more shielding, because it transmits 6 Gbps per twisted pair while DP transmits 8.1. HDMI 2.1 uses 8 wires just as DP, and drives them at 12 Gbps, while DP 2.0 drives them at either 10, 13.5 or 20 Gbps.
It's not really the number of data lines, but rather the way HDMI is designed. Too much bloat in the standard, limiting the one thing it's supposed to do, in favor of DRM features.
@@null-nl5su pretty sure I learned that through some LMG content (maybe a different techquickie?) so it sounds like they need to do an update.
0:16 Ah yes, the cupcake cable.
As someone with a moving train computer case that would be setup at events like PAX, DisplayPort was a must. Tried HDMI once when our DisplayPort cable had issues from years of movement, and never again -- it kept falling out.
If the 3 big names in TV market added a display port by default on all their product, HDMI would be done in 5 years, just the time it take for the new console gen to arrive and for every media player manufacturer to add a DP too
It will never happen because HDMI has DRM. DisplayPort doesn't have DRM. Therefore, DisplayPort is the inferior port as far as corporations are concerned.
@@MrGamelover23At this day an age DRM on connectors is like wet tissue, easy to spoof, also useless since all content can be streamed through a PC either way and DRM there is 100% useless, its only useful for physical media and almost no one buys or uses it.
@@MrGamelover23 why Tv manufacturers would care about DRM ?
ok maybe sony since they also have a foot in the cinema market but LG and samsung, why should they care ?
@@Alice.59 Because major manufacturers want DRM. It's the whole reason why component was dropped from Blu Ray players. They want DRM so you don't potentially do something they don't want you to do. DisplayPort has no DRM so it would likely just become another port on a TV just like VGA and Component were on HDMI equipped TVs
@@Alice.59 If you're connecting the game console, it's using HDMI. If you're watching a DVD or a Blu-ray, it would use HDMI. Why? Copyright and DRM. You use what the equipment uses.
Latches matter, especially if you're doing a more professional install, or running cables to places that are harder to reach. When there's latches, you can trust that you at least plugged it in and it will stay plugged in, reducing troubleshooting effort
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What kind of logic is that?? When I walk around with my laptop that's exactly when I *don't* want latches. Because if I walk to the point where the cable isn't long enough anymore, I want it to unplug the cable rather than yanking the laptop out of my hands.
Edit: Apparently DisplayPort supports HDCP. I'm at a loss, then.
For 6, that's actually a divisive one. I'm fine with it since it reminds me of the old screw fixtures for VGA and DVI connectors so I'm already familiar with needing to undo some kind of retention mechanism, but I've seen plenty of people that HATE those latches and prefer to only buy DisplayPort cables that lack them.
There is one single reason that HDMI is more widespread; HDCP encryption. It pleases the entertainment industry that is disproportionately terrified of piracy to the point where they can end up making things inconvenient for the legitimate customer. So of course they'll prefer the standard that lets them lock things down that little bit more.
It generally isn't a major hurdle for the consumer any more (Occasionally the HDCP handshake breaks and you need to reset the devices connected together to get it to work properly.), but I still remember how the PS3's HDMI output even applied HDCP over gameplay. This makes it impossible to capture gameplay off of it over HDMI without something that can strip out the HDCP protection; either that or you need some method of capturing a component video out instead.
Beware of HDMI splitters. Some of these have a bug that strips the HDCP (copy protection).
@@fernandocasillasjroh no
HDCP is being used with DP just fine.
DP also supports HDCP
Why would 6 be divisive. You have the option to have it or not. Everyone wins.
My entire workplace (~2k people) is on DP now. Having switched from a desktop to a laptop+dock solution (to support WFH and people going on work trips) we found we had to replace a large number of old monitors using HDMI since the combination of docks outputting DP, KVM, and a HDMI adapter to a old monitor caused a ton of video issues (sometimes even without a KVM!)
Fun fact: DP has always been more capable since it was always meant for computers (and so prioritized bandwidth) unlike HDMI which was originally only meant for TVs
The latches are one of the small but significant reasons why DP is for computers and office settings, and HDMI caught on so well in consumer electronics.
Most end users would break the cable trying to pry it out of their television, not understanding the latch.
I just found this channel, new fav ltt channel for quick updates on my knowledge or explanation for my less pc-inclined friends
Edit - I had no idea that there was display port daisy chaining. This may have just revolutionized my setup...
Who would've ever thought I'd ever have to be thankful to edp for anything
Was looking for the other person that made that connection!
You had me at no royalties.
Paying royalties to use a standardization is bad for everyone except the company who owns the patent.
In theory it's fine, if they use the money to keep improving things, but the rate of improvement seems a bit lack lustre so it's just become a rent seeking thing.
It sucks that most open techs/standards are not the dominant ones in the market especially in rare cases like this where the open option is actually the "better" one.
The only thing I find lacking from displayport is that we don't really have any displayport capture cards on the market.
At least you can always use a displayport to hdmi cable to connect to a capture card and set up that fake monitor as a duplicate of your main and it should work fine
That's actually a good point, I never thought about that!
The problem with eDP is the lack of manufacturers following a standard! It seems like every single eDP connection uses a random non-standardized pinout.
I cant hear edp the same again help
At an old job about 8 years ago now I got a new monitor.. a really nice 24” Dell and it had DP.. I had never used it so I bought a cable too since the video card had a DP connection.
I loved everything about it. That monitor ran so well and was pretty amazing and I really liked the satisfying and durable connection on both ends. Never had any flicker issues and always looked sharp. Lot of that was the display but yeah.
HDMI 2.1 and arc are great but don’t seem to be the same quality.. or maybe consistency is the better word. Why isn’t DP on like fire sticks and gaming systems??
Really wish it were more common. I'm unable to use freesync on my display (a 120hz 55" qled) because it only has HDMI and my 1080ti only supports it via DP. I believe HDMI is also much more fragile, I've had HDMI connectors just break off while plugged in with little to no accidental force.
Should have have done 2 ads and said “We have 2 more reasons DP is better”
I like display port only for the latch. I hate that it doesn't have features like ARC, and the audio support isn't as big as for hdmi.
u use hdmi for audio? well that's also suboptimal
@@fabzterI mean, it's very useful in some cases, for example, game consoles that output sound directly to TV. I myself use HDMI audio output because my headphones are mixing up with gamepad cable if I connect them both to front panel.
@@fabzter hdmi is amazing for audio, what you on about?
DISPLAY cable
I'm from a time when we had to tune our TV into the coax signal from our Computer. Im still stoked about VGA, and DVI changed my life!
Funny how some TVs have an "tech use only" port. But when you remove the plastic plug, there's a displayport plug! Also, you can get a displayport to hdmi cable that will allow 4k@60fps. Grest when used on my GTX 760 2gb card to display content that it would only give you 4k@30fps otherwise...
thank you SOOO much!!! I tried nearly everything and your comment on the display port in vs out saved me.
Also DP stands for another fun combination which can't be said about HDMI
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Glad that I wasn't the only one thinking it.
SOmeone will find something, dont worry. Already stirring some ideas on fun acronyms for HDMI,
The latches are kinda annoying since if you want to unplug it, you need to press it to remove the cable. If not you might damage the port of you don't do it right.
It’s absurd on flagship graphics cards and monitors that we don’t have display port 2.1 uhbr 80. I mean if it doesn’t cost any royalties and it’s on their top end products, it makes no sense why it’s not there.
Well I have RTX 3060 and it has 3 DP 2.1 sockets while only a single HDMI, what graphics cards are you talking about?
@@Michallote RTX 3060 only have 3 x DP 1.4a, and 1 x HDMI 2.1. You mixed them up
I think the easy DP→HDMI conversion is why I have a nicely working USB-C→HTMI cable. Plug it into a DP-capable USB-C port on one end and into an HDMI port on the other and boom, you have a video signal on-screen.
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I actually hate those latches on the DP cables. I use DP when possible because it's just better, but I can appreciate how smooth it is to plug in and out a HDMI, as well as finding the correct orientation (DP is kinda hard to spot in tight spaces, having only one angled corner).
I have found the Displayport latch to be a flaw in some cases. When assisting some users, I have found the latch to damage the port and or the cable itself on some user's devices. I rather the cable just fall out than hang on and damage the port and or cable.
Latch is optional
It can tear away a port if it's yanked hard enough assuming the latch doesn't break away (but it will damage the port anyways)
It should only be used if you're on a vehicle or the display is frequently repositioned. The cables should be secured in a way that isn't going to stress the connections, the latch is only to keep the cable from wiggling out due to oscillations
@@uis246think the suggestion is it should be opt in rather than opt out if you know what I mean
@@zyebormIt is opt-in. The manufacturer has to put it on the cable, it doesn't just materialize out of thin air
How about variable refresh rate? -> G-sync and Freesync? - they usually only work with DP.
Lol bro im running a hdmi cable with gsync on
I switched exclusively to Displayport for connecting my gaming PC to my monitor, and I would honestly never go back to HDMI, save for hooking up a PS3 or other system that requires HDMI. Most of the time DP is faster than HDMI on the latest version. Still carries the same types of signals as well(various HDR formats, high refresh rates, VRR, etc).
If a laptop doesn't have hdmi is that a deal breaker? How do I connect external monitor?
@@smann7236 Probably not a deal breaker if a laptop doesn't have HDMI(though it is nice to have), as it's more than possible have video output over USB Type C, though you need at least USB 3.1 Gen 1 and a good USB Type C Hub with HDMI output.
Your older Nvidia cards may be able to make use of G-Sync Compatibility (RTX 2000 and lower) when using DisplayPort. This is especially useful to know for gaming laptops because most often, one of the USB-C ports is "DisplayPort over USB-C". So even if your laptop is not G-Sync certified (meaning that the built-in screen has no G-Sync) your external monitor CAN use G-Sync.
Whenever a boss asks you "please don't discuss your pay", it is an immediate sign that favoritism is present as well as unequal wages. Cutting corners that are already cut, so unprofessional.
My only pet peeve with DP is that it disconnects if the monitor is turned off or put in stand by, or sometimes even if you just change the input source, HDMI doesnt, I had my fair share of headaches because of that, a lot of bluescreens as well
We didnt have bluescreens, but it was hard to get the monitors detected again at full scale(2K), needing a reboot.
Display port allows me to switch my dual monitor setup to single monitor. When turning second monitor off it moves everything to monitor 1 on my macs automatically. When I turn the second monitor on it automatically switches to duel display mode
0:18 I've had minor problems with this type of connectors
Lol
😂 when I heard that I went scrolling trough the comments
Finding Daisychaining monitors for a reasonable price is surprisingly difficult. But it is the only option for an easy KVM switch layout.
3:00 MacOS users beware, Apple has not added support for MST since its addition to DisplayPort 1.2 in 2010. The hardware supports it (a BootCamp install will work OK with MST), but Apple refuses to add support for this standard feature because they want you to use Thunderbolt Display configurations. This came as a nasty surprise when I switched to macOS and suddenly my multi-monitor setup was useless.
I specifically buy DP cables without latches. Latches to me feel like they increase my chances of messing things up if something catches. Rather the cable come out than the whole port.
why don't we have a universal standard for everything.
One thing i don't like about DP is that when i turn off my monitors it is no longer detected and moves all open apps to the main desktop, really annoying when your run a multiple screen setup that has to be on 24/7. None of the "fixes" i found work either.
well that does it no matter which cable you use, that is the OS resetting your extended desktop to the live monitors. Has nothing to do with DP.
Also, Gsync has a ton of compatibility issues with HDMI, while DP doesn't.
So Nvidia users are probably better off using DP instead of HDMI
Personally I think they both have a place. While niche, anyone who wants to bitstream audio to their receiver, display port won't help. Yes it can push bitstream but if you convert DP to HDMI it will convert on PC to LPCM before sending. There may be a solution now but since the 20 series I haven't been able to do it without HDMI, plus LG OLED doesn't have DP.
Edp? He's back?
EDP is my favourite connector, he connects inside me and I love it when it does that
I actually hate the latch on the DP connectors. I thought had had great grip strength, but I never know if I'm pressing hard enough to pull the plug or not. Granted, since I only use it with my PC, I've disconnected the cables maybe 5 times between moves.
Ditto that pressure thing. IMO a sliding mechanism would be better. Better yet, omit it - I don't see the need, as I've had several USB cables attached for a couple of years with np.
You can buy DP cables without the little latch on them, I only use the non latching versions as it's one less piece that can break
Question about the BenQ monitor in the video: is the USB-B connector only there in case the USB-C connector is not used? I mean: when a laptop is connected by USB-C, *all* communication (even bidirectional) goes over that single cable.
So about billet labs...in your response you did not address the prototype allegations...let’s gooooo
Speaking of latches on DP connectors am I the only person who misses the screws that VGA and DVi connectors had to secure the connector? It's best of both worlds: you can use them to ensure that the cable isn't going anywhere but you don't have to use them if you don't want to.
Oh man I love EDP
What you showed in the laptop is not eDP but a LVDS cable. In fact, the eDP that is in laptops is just virtual (as traces on the motherboard connecting some chips).
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The best thing about DP is actually having a locking connector. Working in AV and not having to worry about it getting pulled out.
You prefer to have actual physical damage that costs money to fix if someone trips on the cable? ;-)
Yeah. I thought we learned our lesson with having these wires locked into expensive equipment.
Until you have to pull them out of a monitor
@@jarenpocopio6033 you just have to push, squeeze then pull. I've just done it half a dozen times this week. It's usually pretty easy.
@@BrianG61UK That is better than stopping a show.
The one saving grace for me for using HDMI is that DP doesn't carry audio signals. I run both of my computers through a Yamaha 7.2.2 receiver then out to a 43" Samsung HDTV. Have a 5.1 home speaker system hooked to it (Sony bookshelf speakers, Sony Center/surrounds, Sony Sub) and can run all of it through 1 HDMI cable per computer, and 1 HDMI out to TV. Can't do that with DP.
displayport does support lossless surround sound just like hdmi
get EDP out of my laptop, there's no cupcakes in there...
Lmao i was waiting for someone to say that
James, Riley, Colton are the most smooth and polished followed by Alex. They just move the info along at bullet train speeds.
A lot of companies use docks that can send HDMI and audio out to the peripherals and also send power and ethernet to laptops. I'd love to know some of the best work laptops made just for this setup.
everything with a usb-c (better thunderbolt 4).
There is no "best laptop" for this.
@@GreenCinco12Officialwell, not everything, you'd want at least ensure that that Type-C supports DP Alt mode.
And capable of charging, if that's what you want. Even if it does at least for gaming laptops it's worth researching wether that charging can actually bypass battery and run on "AC", once it's charged (e.g. Zephyrus G14 can't -- it'll run off battery till it drops few % below full and recharge again, in endless battery-wearing cycle)
@@niter43 The only way you can ensure it supports all the things is to have something with Thunderbolt 4, given how fragmented and flakey the support of well... any aspect of the standard can be with USB right now.
I use DP cable because when I turn my PC off, my monitor goes to sleep immediately while with HDMI my monitor would say "No signal" and would keep showing this message for at least 2 minutes until finally going to sleep.
I've long thought of the two standards were invented to troll us, especially in the post USB-C world. There's some weird curse on me, especially at work, in that if I have a DP cable, all the monitors/laptops I find will be HDMI only, and vice versa. If I promise to always mess up plugging in USB cables at least twice, can we please just have a single connector!
One issue I have had with display ports is that some display manufacturers do not leave enough clearance next to the connector. This makes it difficult to remove. And I have had the occasional connector end of the cable fall apart. Have never had that with HDMI.
Linus: "My company is valued at $100 million."
Also Linus: "I can't afford to spend $500 to retest."
Both are possible? 99% of net worth for nearly every human and entity isn't money they have. Its money they already spent and no longer have. Unless they literally sell everything they own.
You don't know how the world works apparently. "Worth" isn't "money you have".
Company value vs Liquidity vs Budget per project
a lot of older monitors don't have display port connections, most of us aren't updating our monitor every couple years, i'm still rocking an asus from 10 years ago that still has a dvi connection
Would be interesting to see testing if active DP to HDMI adapter causes latency increase. If so, would be another win for using DP over HDMI
gotta love a 5 min video with a sponsor in the middle! way to go...
It depends on the monitor and GPU you have. With my monitor and GPU combo my options are HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. And since I'm using a 240hz 1440p HDR 10 bit OLED, HDMI makes more sense.
^this and especially if you’re just using a single connection. I’ve tested both hdmi 2.1 and DP 1.4 with my lg 27” oled with my 3080 and hdmi performs better.
All good reasons why I prefer Display Port and I would recommend it, however, latches are more of a downside in my opinion.
I get that it's more secure, but I never really had an HDMI disconnected by accident, and latches make it harder to unplug the cable.
In all fairness, I rarely disconnect my Display Port, but I just thought it was funny you see it as a plus when it's rather annoying to me.
If the cable gets pulled it will destroy everything with it
I just had to replace a 75" patient display board in an ICU because the stick PC's HDMI kept sliding out. If it were on DP, this would have been a non-issue.
I think it really depends on use-case scenario. IT departments prefer DP because it has the lock. Nothing worse than getting a ticket because the connector is loose (actually, getting a ticket because the last tech didn't screw in the VGA is worse).
then buy a cable without a latch
@@BuildWall I would but as I said before, it's a really small inconvenience, not worth enough to do so, specially because I've never bought one, they just came with the monitors I buy
its a got a clip so you can rip your port out when it gets snagged instead of just unplugging
Honestly my experience with DP was really bad. Constantly cut off from the slightest nudge. Switched to HDMI sense then. Probably just a cable issue, but i have like 50 hdmi cables laying around, so I don’t have a reason to swap back.
I noticed that dp cables are not great if they are longer than 3 meters, i got a 5meter one and it acts funky when there is some random interference or something nearby
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i remeber when i got my first DP monitor and graphics card. the guy selling the monitor was very explicit in the "don't yank out the cable. press the release button or you will damage the monitor" i guess warranty doesn't like torn DP ports
Well, DP drawbacks that make HDMI about 10x more practical for daily use:
1. Even a grandma knows and can plug in an HDMI cable. You mention “DisplayPort” and the only people that recognize that are PC gamers and IT guys.
2. Active/passive/miniDP/eDP/daisychaining/versioning (that even monitors have to have options to change between) all make compatibility and understanding+having the right cable with the right interface and specs, make DP the ‘nerd knob’ over-complex standard.
3. Those stupid prongs on the full-size DP are almost as bad as the screws on VGA/DVI used to be.
But yeah technically, DP is the de-facto superior standard for PC-to-Monitor interfacing. If you want 240hz 4k+ HDR and power+data+video-over-USBC, you go DP.
If you do anything on a TV, or a non-computer, DP becomes the worst standard out there- the new DVI or USB 3-pre-C days nightmare.
It's only good for video. If you care about audio you need HDMI.
There is no high end audio receiver that even has display port support.
I see DP as just a 'video' cable, that's it. HDMI does it all, they even made HDMI w/ Ethernet.
@@Argedis I mean I fully agree that “HDMI does it all”, but even the stupid name “DisplayPort” is misleading because it does in fact, carry audio too.
Mark one more on the “why DP sucks” board because of how misleading the name itself is. It carries high-end multi-channel audio same as HDMI, but why would anyone assume that? It makes me hate DP even more.
@@skullingtonturtle8080 Display Port 'can' carry audio but since there's no strict standards like HDMI it would be a compatability nightmare. Also like I said there's basically no HiFi support anyway.
No high end audio receiver has display port.
HDMI is far more feature-split than DP. You never know which cable supports what and it's usually even harder to find out what the device in question supports.
usb c dp alt mode to dp/hdmi cables are pretty straightforward, not even sure they require active components
Gee I wonder how many mistakes riddle this video lmao
I think both are excellent options and to use what you got, but it is good to raise consumer awareness that DP is an open standard, and therefore people can be more sympathetic when they see a port that isn't HDMI on their device, especially when they know the advantages and future proofing of such a connector
Wish there was an "ARC" feature with DisplayPort as well 😒😒
Now...is this information accurate? :P
Seriously? Why the heck does every monitor have multiple HDMI ports and only one DP, if the DP is free? Make the ports on the monitors match the ports on my PC! Let me run 2 DPs into it and get some splitscreen action going!
I feel like I might see the death of displayport before I ever get to use one though.. 🙇♀It's been over a decade and I've still never seen a displayport _setup_ in the wild either. I never got to use firewire either and that looked awesome too.
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I'll say though: Monitors that charge the laptop are great, especially when paired with a GaN mini charger because it saves sooo much space in a bag.
I used an AOPEN FireLegend monitor for work that came with its own 65watt USB-C brick and yeah.. that monitor could PD-fastcharge the thinkpads and legions I had to use at work.
display port is hugely popular in professional/business environments, and we all know how long it takes for those to change from a standard to another.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Yeah, DP is the standard in enterprise environments (I work Desktop support II in a hospital). It's either VGA or DP, and anytime I see a DP-VGA converter being used, I swap it out if the monitor can support DP. VGA looks awful by comparison.
You're living in a weird world if you've never seen displayport. it's super common...
Fukkin... what? I've junked displays that are just too low res to bother with that had DP. Graphics cards that can't run games past 2016 had DP.
Lmao, DP is the more popular standard when it comes to PC hardware.
Interesting how they totally avoided talking abot audio.
why is it called EDP bruhhh
Embedded Display Port abbreviates to EDP
eDP 4.4.5
Honestly latches on DP are a downside of DP, if you trip on a cable you pull down your laptop/desktop while with HDMI it gets usually disconnected. It’s possibile of course to get a DP cable without latches but most monitors and GPUs include only cables with latches, so you have to buy extra if you want to get rid of the annoying latches.
EmbeddedDisplayPort445?????
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Displayport latches are annoying AF most of the times though, needing to press way too hard to be practical while also pulling for most cheaper cables... The risk of unwanted disconnect is so low considering the depth of the plug that it's not really needed IMO.
The main reason I have a DP cable is because a DP cable for me was 50 pence (80 cents), whereas an equal length HDMI cable was gonna run me £18 ($22.85 USD). How HDMI is that expensive I have no idea.
maybe because if you asked 100 people randomly whats display port was, most wouldnt have a clue, whereas with HDMI, its the cable their TV uses. most would also answer since they never heard of DP, HDMI must be better, hence why shops will charge more for a better cable. (most viewers here should know more expensive doesnt always equal better)
Dude, where the hell do you live and shop? LOL
I have seen some gnarly display ports broken by moving the pc or cable without pressing the dp button down
I prefer display port, but i admit i would happily pay an extra $10 to add an hdmi port to cover the license and hardware. Flexibility is good.
I didn't realize people would even consider HDMI a viable option for displays to the extent that you would make a video about it ? Crazy.