Helmut Clissmann on German Intelligence in Ireland during World War 2, 1980

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  • @brianallen858
    @brianallen858 9 месяцев назад +45

    One of the last honest and decent journalists that existed in the republic of Ireland, he was a fascinating journalist who we couldn't replace ❤❤❤

    • @Fordprefect1000
      @Fordprefect1000 9 месяцев назад +9

      Pretty sure he's still alive

    • @MatthewDonnelly-mg3mq
      @MatthewDonnelly-mg3mq 9 месяцев назад +4

      John Bowman is still alive

    • @GreasyBelcher
      @GreasyBelcher 9 месяцев назад +5

      His son, Jonathan Philbin Bowman was also a journalist (similar appearance). He died after a fall in his home, at the age of 31.

    • @dreamjackson5483
      @dreamjackson5483 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was actually just gonna comment on him. Never heard of him. But I liked his unbiased questions, and demeanor

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад

      I Just couldn't resist the temptation to be a bitch - forgive me - he's not Ryan Turbidy. at least. and certainly a good few realms above him in purgutory! Yes he was good - but the haircut!

  • @oceanfroggie
    @oceanfroggie 9 месяцев назад +14

    John Bowman was a treasure, a legend broadcaster, historian, journalist of the highest integrity and capability. His talent for chairing difficult debates and gently extracting answers to difficult questions from reluctant or dishonest participants was an extraordinary talent. A gentleman who was never adversarial but like a gentle laser nearly always got to the truth and directly core of an issue. A talented gentleman. Will we ever see his like again? May father God grant him joy and peace in his retirement. Thank you John Bowman.

    • @tmck2000
      @tmck2000 9 месяцев назад +1

      He’s still alive.

    • @oceanfroggie
      @oceanfroggie 9 месяцев назад

      @@tmck2000 Thanks Yes I know. Hope he having a joyful and active retirement.

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад

      He was but I can't resist the opportunity to be a bitch!

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад

      I agree - but the hairdo was asking for it!

  • @timburr4453
    @timburr4453 9 месяцев назад +4

    His memory is spectacular recalling specific events

  • @ginojaco
    @ginojaco 9 месяцев назад +12

    Good interview, not many journalists here in the UK or in the ROI of his ability or quality nowadays.

  • @carlsmith8815
    @carlsmith8815 9 месяцев назад +20

    We always knew the Nazis and the IRA were in league, but what this gem does show is that the Irish Govt was fully alive to the threat as well and interned them. It is surprising that the Nazis's. hadn't a serviceable intelligence network in south Ireland pre-war.

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +3

      Perhaps the 'real' Irish aren't that malliable - I like to think so

    • @kitsilanomusician2669
      @kitsilanomusician2669 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, it is essential to underline that The Irish Republicians were sidelined (interred) By The Irish Government & not in a position of power.

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад

      Yes but the Irish republicans were political creatures and, therefore controlled by the Swiss, probaby - don't forget about the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. We, the real people look after the nest! I could go on but this is Youtibe and not a good forum @@kitsilanomusician2669

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад

      i I am Engish but the 3 letter acronyms were always used to seduce our boys@@kitsilanomusician2669

    • @userfile007
      @userfile007 3 месяца назад

      @@sonjawhite5815Your enemy’s enemy is your friend, as they say..

  • @sonjawhite5815
    @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +2

    What a handsome, serious, intelligent man - and such good hair!!

  • @johncarey3860
    @johncarey3860 9 месяцев назад +32

    'he speaks with an Irish accent'...oh no he doesn't

    • @emmetw
      @emmetw 9 месяцев назад +19

      There’s a hint of an Irish accent in there, but an overwhelmingly German accent otherwise.

    • @emmetw
      @emmetw 9 месяцев назад +4

      @williem1710 I did Nazi that coming

    • @jamesfahy3963
      @jamesfahy3963 9 месяцев назад +6

      Looks like Cyril Cusack. By all accounts C C was not a fan of the sassanachs .

    • @michealhand1001
      @michealhand1001 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@jamesfahy3963But he still went there and made films

    • @MrRoryG
      @MrRoryG 9 месяцев назад

      He sounds like a very well spoken Irish person with a hint of a much stronger German and Irish accent in parts.

  • @Saywhatnow-o3w
    @Saywhatnow-o3w 9 месяцев назад +15

    a German man called a radio station in Donegal and described going down the Swilly in a
    U-boat during the war.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 9 месяцев назад +1

      Not likely that happened.

    • @Saywhatnow-o3w
      @Saywhatnow-o3w 9 месяцев назад

      @@Art-is-craft right 🤔

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Saywhatnow-o3w
      Silly was too small to freely travel up.

    • @Saywhatnow-o3w
      @Saywhatnow-o3w 9 месяцев назад

      @@Art-is-craft not for a German-u boat. Large ships used to go to Rathmullan

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 8 месяцев назад

      @@Saywhatnow-o3wThat is likely to be a British canard. They always thought Ireland was hiding German u-boats.

  • @sonjawhite5815
    @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +8

    Ireland is a far more stratified society than England - this struck me so much when I moved over here

    • @sonjawhite5815
      @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +1

      @eoinf2773 Every Irish village had its useful slave who knew his place because he was born out of wedlock

    • @Johnnyfive55
      @Johnnyfive55 8 месяцев назад

      Wealth in Ireland follows far closer a pareto distribution than the UK? That should be the natural order. During the land league land was taken from landlords and given back to the Irish people (something yet to happen in the UK)
      Today we have problem. Globalist are buying ireland, we have reverted.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 8 месяцев назад

      @@sonjawhite5815 Eh?

  • @sonjawhite5815
    @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +2

    The serious Irishman has such good hair!

  • @Murray-wr5no
    @Murray-wr5no 3 месяца назад

    The game doesn't always end at the end of the match.

  • @computerdoctorrepairs
    @computerdoctorrepairs 9 месяцев назад +19

    Irish Lives Matters

    • @janet4021
      @janet4021 9 месяцев назад +1

      All lives matter x

    • @ginojaco
      @ginojaco 9 месяцев назад +3

      Whose doesn't?

    • @sof553
      @sof553 9 месяцев назад

      The universe doesn't make these distinctions. No ones lives really matter though its probably not a bad illusion to have.

    • @MrSteveo114
      @MrSteveo114 2 месяца назад

      ⁠@@sof553only except it’s not an illusion? You care about your mother your brother your father and also your sister then their lives matter to YOU so it’s not an illusion. You could argue in the grand scheme of things earth and the universe at large that we don’t matter but whose lives matter is a question of who cares and once somebody cares that life now matters, it’s not the universe that determines who matters and who doesn’t it’s us same goes for you and anyone else. Somebody out there cares about you so even if I hated you saw you as worthless etc I could never argue that your life doesn’t matter because to someone if not yourself it does.
      I know you mentioned the universe doesn’t make these distinctions but what is the universe then? We made the distinctions between galaxies, milky ways stars and planets and named the universe the universe, everything that we know and think came from us so in a sense the idea or the concept of the universe is just an illusion also as we created these titles and distinctions and the universe didn’t in the same way we make distinctions about whose lives matter.

  • @ishmael2586
    @ishmael2586 9 месяцев назад +2

    Helmut Clinnsman - proper Irish name

    • @MrSteveo114
      @MrSteveo114 2 месяца назад

      “They’ll never suspect a thing hehehehe”

  • @lovelyhurlin6494
    @lovelyhurlin6494 9 месяцев назад +2

    Fascinating.

  • @sonjawhite5815
    @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +5

    As if

  • @kennethkilleen8758
    @kennethkilleen8758 9 месяцев назад

    Alot of Germans look irish. Boris Becker was a red head
    A neighbour of ours grandfather was German, and his grandson now plays senior football for mayo. Ormes.

    • @JordanPowerYT
      @JordanPowerYT 9 месяцев назад

      All North West Europeans are Germanic.

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 9 месяцев назад +5

      The red heads came from the Vikings, not the Gaels!

    • @warrenrandall6936
      @warrenrandall6936 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@benwilson6145 There are red heads across the world although the % of the population is highest in the British Isles.

  • @Occident.
    @Occident. 9 месяцев назад +5

    GAELS RESIST THE SECOND PLANTATION OF IRELAND.🇮🇪

  • @philodonoghue3062
    @philodonoghue3062 9 месяцев назад +2

    Go h’ointeach go léir.

  • @unclestuka8543
    @unclestuka8543 9 месяцев назад

    I fancy having a motoring holiday in the R O I, do I need a VISA ( not the credit card )

    • @roryoconnor9542
      @roryoconnor9542 5 месяцев назад +1

      Where are you coming from?

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@roryoconnor9542 England (Norfolk). With all this border caper I don't want to be refused entry with my car. Ta Rory.

    • @MrSteveo114
      @MrSteveo114 2 месяца назад

      @@unclestuka8543you won’t be refused entry see dozens of U.K plate cars and campers here every week, you dony need a VISA either last I checked as I boarded a ferry to the U.K for a two week stay with my car all I needed was my passport and that was it off I went to London.

  • @robleahy5759
    @robleahy5759 9 месяцев назад +4

    My maiden aunt from sligo used to distill aviation fuel with an old poitín set up. She had a long running romance with a Messerschmidt 109 pilot, who landed on her long field. She never spoke after the day he failed to reappear but they were buried side by side many years later by fellow faithful sorts. More than a few songs and poems were composed about them, but the government suppressed most.

    • @dermotevans206
      @dermotevans206 9 месяцев назад

      Wow , what a story . Is it recorded anywhere ?

    • @tedwarden1608
      @tedwarden1608 9 месяцев назад +2

      🤣

    • @robleahy5759
      @robleahy5759 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@tedwarden1608 I am putting together an anthology of Irish folksongs of the third reich.

    • @tedwarden1608
      @tedwarden1608 9 месяцев назад

      @@robleahy5759. Fascinating.

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 9 месяцев назад +3

      Republic of Ireland, the only country that sent a letter of condolence to Germany on the death of the Fuhrer !

  • @sonjawhite5815
    @sonjawhite5815 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'm a very special member of a three letter acronym!

  • @tombombadil9123
    @tombombadil9123 9 месяцев назад +9

    German intelligence in WW2 was terrible

    • @Leberteich
      @Leberteich 9 месяцев назад +6

      It was rather better at the Eastern front. When the Red Army emerged as the new adversary in the cold war, the western allies realised they knew precious little about it. Therefore the Americans in 1946 installed a West German foreign intelligence service led by Reinhard Gehlen. In WWII, Gehlen led the German 'Fremde Heere Ost' ('Foreign Armies East') service. He knew the Red Army better than all Western allies taken together. The 'Organisation Gehlen' would later evolve into Germany's foreign secret service. This continuity of old Nazis taking leading positions in the 'new' West Germany infuriated the next generation and was a major driver of the 1968 student revolts.

    • @kenmurray1600
      @kenmurray1600 9 месяцев назад

      which in turn was a soviet plot to fuck up the the relatively new
      west german democracy. @@Leberteich

    • @charlesburgoyne-probyn6044
      @charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 9 месяцев назад +1

      They did have some knowledge but it was slow and spotty compared to the allies

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 9 месяцев назад

      One of the problems for German intelligence was the fact that Canaris the Abwehr chief was a British agent !

    • @timburr4453
      @timburr4453 9 месяцев назад

      Abwehr right? didnt they infiltrate the red army to an extent but other than that they were always one step behind

  • @davidgray3321
    @davidgray3321 8 месяцев назад +2

    Very pleased this kind of thing exists, as Ireland tries to forget its pro fascist position, it is extraordinary that so many Irish men fought the fascist with great valour and were persecuted by their government when they returned home. Quiet disgusting.

    • @markrowantree
      @markrowantree 3 месяца назад

      It’s very difficult to judge the behaviour of people in the past without using hindsight. Ireland was no more pro-Nazi than the U.K. was in the 1930’s/40’s. It is worthwhile remembering that the U.K. had a not insignificant number of pro-Nazi’s particularly amongst the aristocracy. Ireland did in fact make a significant contribution to the Alled victory. You need to do some research before making a silly comment like that.

    • @davidgray3321
      @davidgray3321 3 месяца назад

      @@markrowantree
      The Irish state used some Nazis style uniforms for police employees I am told by an Irish contact.
      I am told the Irish state allowed German ships into their ports in WW2
      I know they (the police) tracked down and persecuted Irishmen who fought the Nazis whilst in the British forces in WW 2 when they came home, fact.
      The government deliberately let the park (you will know the name) in Dublin fall into rack and ruin since it remembered Irishmen that took up arms in WW1 against the Germans in the British army.
      The Irish intelligence service provided information to Germanys intelligence service to under,one the auks war effort.
      All rather embarrassing now isn’t it?

    • @davidgray3321
      @davidgray3321 3 месяца назад

      Sorry re typo, “to undermine the UKS war effort”

    • @Winterwolf-fs3wh
      @Winterwolf-fs3wh Месяц назад

      ​@@davidgray3321 atleast 50,000 Irish fought for the allies and yet the Allies (Britain and America) saw the Irish as racially inferior (like signs that said no Irish, no blacks, no dogs) while the axis saw the Irish as "Aryan"

    • @washerdryer3466
      @washerdryer3466 Месяц назад

      The Germans actually had an SS unit made up of Brits...The British Free Corps. 🤣🤣

  • @dalek3086
    @dalek3086 9 месяцев назад +6

    how many Jewish refugees did Ireland take in ? Battle of the Atlantic was nearly lost, more dead Americans and Brits, Allied bases in Ireland would have cut the casualties. Tell the widows and orphans you were neutral.

    • @kitsilanomusician2669
      @kitsilanomusician2669 9 месяцев назад +1

      Why did USA stay neutral during The Blitz? When The Nazis were bombing The UK?

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ireland was neutral! They weren't prepared to fight and die for Perfidious Albion again! ERIN GO BRAGH 🇮🇪💪.

    • @richie9814
      @richie9814 9 месяцев назад +4

      Ireland was basically axis. They would rather side with fascist brutality than side with the global fight for freedom. Then they spent the next 50 years mixing gelignite in their kitchens. Wonderful bunch of people!

    • @kitsilanomusician2669
      @kitsilanomusician2669 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@richie9814 Horse man ure. Thousands of Irishmen fought in Allied Armies throughout Aus, NZ, USA & UK coupled with zero collab between Irish & German Gov's as confirmed by our friend speaking here.

    • @eugenefarrell1002
      @eugenefarrell1002 9 месяцев назад +3

      We are still waiting for our green field in Ulster back... we owe the Brits nothing but Contempt.

  • @pedclarkemobile
    @pedclarkemobile 9 месяцев назад +1

    The enemy of my enemy….

  • @iantobanter9546
    @iantobanter9546 9 месяцев назад +1

    My dad and his shipmates believed that u boats received supplies and shelter from Eire.

    • @kitsilanomusician2669
      @kitsilanomusician2669 9 месяцев назад +3

      They made it up.

    • @jeffatkins6890
      @jeffatkins6890 9 месяцев назад

      @@kitsilanomusician2669 did they ! my dad was sunk by a u boat that had refuelled there

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 8 месяцев назад +1

      A common belief with Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill but there is no evidence for this.

    • @geraldwalsh6489
      @geraldwalsh6489 8 месяцев назад +3

      This is not true. Ireland was neutral,but on the side of the allies. It was thanks to the Irish weather service that the Normandy landings succeded. The original landings were
      cancelled due to the weather forecast from Valentia being for poor weather.