Agreed but did the PSP Memory Sticks half people either back in the day? No one bought them because they had a Sony cameras also on hand (that they were also compatible with) when using them for the PSP likely and the Vita yes the price and being exclusive memory cards. I won't deny they were an issue for sure though. The 1GB internal was something in the 2000 model but nothing 16GB PSP Go level that should have been included in either model Vita when phones offered that they did or the 3DS internal besides the SD card slot. Never was an issue for me as a late owner but I can understand the issues and did face it with the PSP apparently back in the day. I got lucky with a 1000 and a 16GB included but that's not everyone either coming across that. Especially not launch. To me the western audience didn't find games appealing enough and I can see why. It's why the Vita is more appealing to an anime games/visual novel/JRPG or kids games device than a western casual or hardcore audience with their favourite IPs on the go when many of them stopped appearing after a while or ones like Bioshock Vita didn't come out only a few types appearing in the first few years of the device. I like the Vita but I fit the Indie, Japanese games and controller gimmicks audiences.
They should at the very least allow other manufacturers to also make them. I think we'd be in better shape today if Sony allowed SanDisk or Samsung to make Vita cards too.
As PS Vita owner i would be realistic, there will no Vita 2 or something like that because PS has been total joke in this generation, even if they would make another handheld console it won't sell well either because we know how $ony keep screweing their customer with PS5 and all the BS move they pulling out.
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch LOL i'm not even Nintendrone aka Nintendo fanboy, in fact i really hate Nintendo and their overrated garbage console. Switch hardware is a total joke even my phone is more powerfull and able to emulate Switch game smoothly.
I like the concept of portable gaming devices, I bought a few over the years. I just never use them. If I'm home, I play on console. If I'm out and about, I'm not playing games. It always sounds good, I just never find the occasion to use them.
most people use it like they use phones or tablets, at home but in bed or while watching TV. It's not really about playing outside but the ease of play anywhere.
@@mielthesquid6536 exactly. I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I primarily play my Switch on the same TV that I use for my PS5. But I've loved the ability to chill on the front porch on a nice day, and just play some games. I can't do that with the PS5.
@@Xoulrath_ I mean, you can do that with a PS5 with remote play, a phone and a controller. But that is a more complicated way than just a dedicated device.
So let me get this straight Sony who only releases 1-5 games on ps5 per year this year they’re only releasing Spider-Man is also gonna somehow make a new handheld and make games for that as well and somehow won’t make it a failure like the vita? This sounds like switch pro stuff aka it’ll never release
Considering how the market is right now I feel like this would be the perfect time for them to attempt it again. If done well, and not proprietary, I think it will sell a lot of units. I still love my Vita 12 (?) years later and it fits in really well even now.
Yep, If Nintendo is gonna wait forever to give us a high power version. $300 with 1.5x -2x the power of the switch. Make it be able to play any Playstation game you own be sick.
@@simbanugz2906 I doubt the next switch or the successor will be $300... probably 349 or 399 seems more plausible. Also, the current Tegra chip that is potentially based (T239) is potentially based on a tegra orin nx... which is more than 2x times the power of current Switch, even 3x times is, big leap.
Maybe that and if they market it better, have a good price they should sell exceptionally well maybe like $399 so higher than the Vita because inflation and storage but maybe have at least 64GB of internal storage but it'd compete in price with the Steam Deck that does 64GB with $399 price and then Sony could have a 5G model of their Vita 2 for $499 or something still 64GB internal storage
Make it considerably more powerful and change $450 for it. Hopefully also offer a dock witn a mobile class egpu in it as an option not compulsory whoever wants even better performance.
These Sony fans are nuts. Steamdeck and the upcoming other one already are superior by being open to everything PC, Emulator friendly, Gamepass support or capable. Sony - PS exclusives, PC Scraps. That's not a big seller outside of the types who usually buy VR gimmick hardware. On top of that Sony is #1 at awful battery life, seems like a winning combination
John, the PSP Go was ahead of it's time. Now is the time to bring that idea back because it can thrive. All they need to do is add wifi to that device, add a 500GB NVMe hard drive with room for expansion and let people play PS+ games and have the option to download any game available in the PS storefront INCLUDING PS5 titles. The PS5 titles would obviously be scaled down to run on it like the Steam Deck does with modern titles. What Sony should NOT do is have a handheld that has it's own games like the PS Vita, that would kill the device because we all know how Sony is about supporting their peripherals that aren't the main console. This thing would sell like crazy if they did that.
A PS4 portable makes the most sense. Huge library from the start, have some bundles with PS+, not a huge investment for them since they have everything in place ( os, dev tools etc) and not a big risk. Have also a dock and you have a winner.
That's a good idea. Rumour has it the Next switch will have PS4 level graphics so they would be perfect competitors. However I doubt Sony would make their handheld dockable as that would take away from PS5 sales.
0:30 Ngl… I feel like Sony would actually be LESS likely to revisit the handheld market now that there’s so much more competition in it. It would be different if it was still just Nintendo, but now Valve and Asus have jumped in as well. Sony usually plays things safe, I’d be shocked if they announced a successor to the Vita.
The difference is that PC titles are designed to allow scalable settings. The XBSX/S and PS5 are not. They have to tailor the settings to get a streamlined experience. Adding another setting profile and optimization to a Sony Handheld is going to be WAY down on the list of priorities for these developers. Sony needs to stay where they are best. That is the PS5 and locking down anti competitive exclusive 3rd party deals.
The price of the unit is what makes this unlikely. The steam deck already cost about the same as a next-gen console. (Or more) But you have the added bonus of the massive steam library. It doesn't make sense for Sony to charge you same price as a PS5 (or more), for something that only runs PlayStation games and not as well.
Sony could potentially justify whatever price they want to charge if and only if they get backwards compatibility right. After all, that's one of the main appealing factors of the Steam Deck: the amount of games that can be played on it, whether they're verified for it or if certain workarounds are needed.
Going with your classics idea, that's already a thing. You can use your PS plus account on the steam deck. Sony invested a crap ton of money to port games over to PC. And build a PC ecosystem. Even making sure their games are steam deck verified. Why would they gamble on building and stocking a $600 plus handheld to do something that they already are doing. (Allowing PS plus and native AAA games to run on PC handheld systems). They currently get all the benefits of portable gamers wanting to give Sony money, without having to RND a crazy expensive handheld that might be more than the PS5. (And risk another handheld failure). I mean anything is possible. And never say never. But it would be a weird financial gamble for them to do it.
I think Sony's best bet would be to revisit the idea of a gaming phone. Having a sliding device, with physical buttons and sticks that you can stream PS5 games and maybe download classic games from the PS library.
@Calo Nord True but they could do emulation. I mean, the technology is already out there. They just need to contact the tech devs and collaborate instead of trying to shut them down.
As someone who bought a PSP and Vita at launch, I'd only get one if there were no proprietary memory cards and if I could be assured they wouldn't abandon it like they did the Vita.
Talking about the ROG Ally, it's useful to know that the Ally promises 50% more performance at 15W and 100% more performance at 35W compared to the Steam Deck (I'm assuming Steam Deck is capped to 15W in all tests). So realistically for the device to be portable (run for more than 40 mins on battery) and not be to loud, it's best to have it at or under 15-20W, just like the Steam Deck, so only up to 50-60% of Steam Deck performance. If you look at it from this side, Sony's portable console should have at least the same APU (or at least underlying GPU), as the ROG Ally, if not a better one, to have full FHD 30fps for all PS5 games. Edit: added clarification for portable device
I would absolutely love another Sony portable system. A thought that I had was I wonder if Sony will see this as an opportunity to test the water for having its first digital only system from the beginning and all games would have to be downloaded like on the steam deck and no more cartridges like the switch and vita. Not saying I want this future but it doesn’t seem too far out to happen.
I really enjoy the Steamdeck and would be interested in a Sony style machine. The larger size of the deck makes for a very comfortable experience and I don't get that horrible twisted thumb position from smaller handhelds. Hopefully a Sony handheld will be as ergonomic.
Honestly I just want the experience of having a Sony handheld while it’s relevant and though unfortunately I doubt that there’s a big enough market for them to make another system like the psp or vita that used physical cartridges and such i would love for them to try it one last time cause like a ps4 powered handheld sounds good like I like hybrids and all that but I just miss dedicated handhelds
That's the one thing I'm all but certain of. If this ever exists (and that's a big but) it almost 100% for sure would be completely digital-only. It would really simplify things hopefully. I know that's not what some people want to hear but I guarantee that's how they would do it.
As sad as it is yeah I see that happening more. Then again Logitech G Cloud is a Android tablet even if advertised as a streaming device so it isn't dead/useless once you can't access the services it is Android app capable but who really wants a tablet with controls on the side and for Android apps when a phone with a grip and being almost Switch like to allow taking the controls on and off option or using the touch controls anyway and people have a phone on them always.
@ZackSNetwork When it came out, Sony used their own memory cards, which were very expensive for the little storage you would get. Then, just lack of support from Sony themselves.
The "PC Portable" makes the most sense... and I wouldn't put it past Sony to price it in line with the price of the PS5 and the PSVR2 at the $500-$600 price point playing games with specs similar to the ASUS ALLY but PS5 games at 800p or 1080p / 30hz or 60hz (targeted performance)
As I said, the only way that Sony could do this is if it has the capabilities of a PS4 to PS5 , they won’t be able to develop multiple games ( a console version and then a completely different portable version like the uncharted version for the vita) and we’ve seen third-party companies completely Ignore the switch even though it’s 100+ million unit seller. My only hope is that it won’t be this big monster like the steam deck. I love my steam deck, but I also very much miss smaller handhelds like the vita or PSP or even the 3DS. If they could make some thing with a 5 to 6 inch screen, that’s thin and sleek, and can play PS4 + level games. I would be OK with it being a digital only system to get that form factor and I feel a lot of other people would be willing to sacrifice this as well. Can you imagine playing Spider-Man 2 on your PS5 and then taking it on the go. Hence, I think the name should be “P5P” where the 5 acts as both an S and a 5 the “PlayStation 5 Portable”
Everyone mocked the idea of a "Xbox Series S Handheld" even when Microsoft already has the hardware split baked into their ecosystem, and now here Spawnwave is explaining the viability of a "PS5 Portable". Of course the real reason to doubt the probability of "Series S Handheld" ever happening is Microsoft is fully invested in the Cloud, but the specs of Series S dramatically lean toward being compatible with a battery operated configuration (you could EASILY get 25% more power out of the Series S silicon with a software update).
I'm honestly interested to see what they at least try. It'll all come down to what it costs and what it can actually do as well as how well it actually works. If they can get all three then I think they might have something.
Imo it all comes down to games. They would need to add wifi and we'd need to be able to stream PS+ and even go past that and open up cloud streaming for PS5 games. They CANNOT have their own games like the Vita or else they're leaving it to die. I don't own a PS5 but if they did what I suggest I'd buy one day 1.
@@sam805236 there are like 20 other handhelds that can do cloud gaming. Just because it’s sony slapped on the name you really think that would sell more than the 20 others that can already do this?
Sony should support it with 1st party games but they probably won't cause the devs are all on ps5. It doesn't make sense to work on weaker hardware now. We only have 1 1st party game confirmed for ps5 this year so handheld would just take even more games away
I'd love a new handheld from them. But I could also see them just doing a dedicated PS5 streaming device (like the Logitech one). Then there would be no extra game development costs.
The only problem is that technology is still years and years for being anywhere near where it would need to be in order to be really feasible. If it's not playing on physical hardware I think most people won't want, it I know I wouldn't.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I just mean streaming from your own PS5, not cloud streaming. Although I think they do cloud streaming for PS3 games? So who knows what they would attempt next
@@GoatV8 Ah I see my bad (kinda) although the Vita did that as well. And "attempt" is the right word. I honestly don't have all that much faith in the people currently working at Playstation. I used to but the people currently in charge just aren't what it used to be.
@@GoatV8 I can't even pretend to be surprised. This is exactly the kind of non-announcement I was expecting. They can't even let us play PS3 natively forcing us to stream it. (And it works like crap)
I really hope they do. I love handhelds like most people. And even got in on the 3ds resurgence a year ago. But I never my own vita and I can't justify buying one now (unlike the 3ds. Which offers a unique form factor) I'd love to see Sony handhelds back.
Hybrids are the new handhelds as the 3rd was the last to jump ship. Sony needs a hybrid system that when docked could match the power of the Xbox Series S.
I'm totally down for a new handheld. Don't think there's a chance they would name it PSP or Vita 2. Whatever they do it's a must that they don't do proprietary memory cards and please don't make it more expensive than the PS5. I think that has doomed the PSVR 2. It can have the most awesome specs but when people see it's more expensive than the actual console... they're going to check tf out.
I really hope they do build a handheld. It’s not about a portable system with a separate library. People want to take console quality games wherever they go. Without relying on an internet connection with remote play. I’m honestly jealous of Steam Deck making Elden Ring portable. Please Sony make a powerful handheld!!
Just make 2 PSP3 models. 1000 model is PHYSICALLY Backwards compatible with PSP & PS Vita. 2000 model is just digitally backwards compatibility. Basically just make a portable PS4/PS5 and make it smaller than the Switch and Steam Deck.
A PS hand held that did a cross play with the Ps5 , but could also be a stand-alone would be a great idea, especially when it looks like we are in a recession. It doesn't make alienate the people who are just now getting the PS5 while giving the ones that have had the PS5 since launch something new. It would be great to be able to stop playing a game on the ps5 but then pick it back up somewhere else on a portable device that was playing the same game.
I’d really like it if it were a Sony handheld. I love handheld gaming but I haven’t gotten a Steam Deck yet. I think a new Sony one would be more appealing to me than a Steam Deck or anything other than a Switch 2
As a proud owner of two PS Vitas, I would love if Sony got back into the handheld space. The PSP and the Vita were both premium-feeling devices that were ahead of their time, especially when it came to specs. I don't think Sony would be able to support a handheld if it is a traditional device with it's own dedicated games. They are already supporting PS5 and PSVR2 as well as porting games to PC. But, if it was possible to do what Jon is suggesting then that would be fantastic. I still think Sony considers streaming (both via Remote Play and a future PSNow mobile app) their answer to on the go gaming. But, with the Switch being such a runaway success, Sony may just decide to jump back into handhelds.
I'm not sure why one of these companies doesn't use cloud gaming to make handheld games for mobile. No one wants to lug around another handheld device AND their phone. As a gaming company, it's better just to utilize the hardware everyone already has, like the PC market. Mobile gaming is awful. There's a big spot to fill, to have REAL gaming on our phones. There's big money there, but no one is filling the void. Use the hardware everyone already HAS.
Please do us one favor don’t call it the PS Vita 2 that’s if Sony is really releasing another handheld console I’ll sure buy theirs over Nintendo cause of their power graphics performance difference and trophies 🏆
I think the problem with them doing a device is that the steam deck and other competitors will be open to Xbox game pass which allows people choice. If it’s on par with the steam deck and better designed people will take a look. But it being a closed platform takes it out of the conversation for myself at least.
I do think that's the biggest problem. And the single biggest benefit something like the switch has going for it. Sure it's a walled garden too but those games are never going anywhere else. (not officially anyway)
The Vita was the very first handheld that could play AAA games on the go. The Vita was doing it before it was cool. Ofc Sony is most at fault for giving it no trust and being very anticonsumer with it because of their trauma of the psp hacking scene. As much as I would love to see a new PS handheld, I don't trust Sony will do a good job of it. Perhaps they'll just do a streaming handheld if they decide to.
As a dad, I would be so excited about this. I don’t have much time to game in front of a tv these days, so even though I have a PS5, I’m still 95% using the Switch and always waiting to see how Switch versions/ports do. So if they could pull it off, I’d be so down
My biggest problem with Sony handhelds is that they feel as secondary complementary consoles; no numbered sequels, no big titles released on them, you had to have Sony main console in order to enjoy the meaty games. On the other hand Nintendo handheld feels like self-contained consoles. 3DS had exclusive numbered sequels like SMT4, Luigi's Mansion 2, MH3U, MH4, Bravely Default, Animal Crossing and more. If Sony releases a new handheld then for sure you'll need PS5 on top of it in order to fully enjoy. 3DS was a fantastic device and the Switch already blurred the line between home console and handheld. I don't see Sony succeeding unless their handheld is literally PS5 portable, in that case I'd gladly buy one.
A handheld Sony device that can run PS4/PS5 games, albeit at a lower quality / resolution, that includes trophies and let’s you play any games you’ve already bought portably would be an instant buy from me! Make it happen 👏🏼
All Sony needs to do is make a portable PS4. Keep the ecosystem going on a portable console, backwards compatible with all previous games and accessories and give it a dock Switch style. Done.
I think we are looking at this from the wrong angle... It will most likely be marketed as a super duper DualSense Controller as opposed to a Portable PlayStation. Also, it will allow you to use the Screen on the Controller as a Second Screen, maybe for the Radar in the long awaited MGS Remake, or use it for Codec Sequences.
I'd love a new Sony Handheld, but I don't just want a digital PS5 but portable. I'd want them to do a proper Handheld with Physical Media. I like consoles to have Physical games, I'm not a fan of all digital, I accept it on the Steam Deck because it's a portable PC, if Sony makes a Handheld, it would be a portable console and I like consoles to have Physical media. I know it's dying and I know a lot of games don't even come on the disc anyway, but I love Physical Media and I want it to stay around as long as possible.
@@ukkev7290 I'm not sure to be honest, but the Switch does have cartridge sizes of up to 64GB, so Sony could use a similar technology to Nintendo. Since most physical games unfortunately don't include the full game on the disc/cartridge anyway, they could have a system where you have 60GB on the cartridge and then download the rest. My ideal Sony Handheld would not be a PS5 portable, it would be it's own thing like the PSP and Vita before it (incredibly unlikely, but I can dream). Since it would have it's own games and obviously wouldn't be as powerful as the PS5, hopefully game files could be smaller, as you wouldn't need 4K textures for games running on a 1080p screen. I definitely don't have a brilliant answer for how they could do it, It's just something I'd like to see in a new Handheld from Sony.
I'd love to have Sony enter this space. I'm no console player, especially PS, but I'd happily welcome their competition. I had a vita and it was incredible, I really think Sony can add to this new generation of Handheld gaming. Valve is really in a league of their own right now, selling at a loss for platform profits makes the device so attractive for not just the users but Valve. Sony is in the same position - if not better with their prior experience. Please come true
I doubt that, the PSVR2 is struggling and unless Sony focus on it moving forward.. it can be a disaster. The handheld market is also very hot at the moment, companies dont like to invest on highly competitive markets. Even the Switch has strong competition, the Steam Deck is a huge success and the newly announced ASUS Rog Ally can be just as big. There are also cloud based handhelds like the Logitech and others. Assides from the Switch, people can play any PC/XBoX and PS games on these device, natively or through Game Pass/GeForce Now. Why would somebody buy a PS handheld to have a limited game catalog,iwhen they can already play everything on other devices? Its would be stupid! Not even XBoX is focused in a handheld, and they have a huge advantage on multiplatform development and unlike Playstation, a massive cloud gaming infra structure/service (Game Pass). They are letting others companies do the hardware so they can just supply the software/services
but it would also mean, you have to buy another super expansive handheld maybe additional to your ps5 just to play on the go. I think this scenario has the same issue the steam deck has. usually you want to expand the range of games you can play so having a ps5 would make a ps5 handheld less interesting because you would be able to play the same games (and only the digital ones) but it would be far more expansive. if you buy a ps5 and a switch your range of games is far higher. Also like the steam deck, battery time likely very low (especially if you want to buy the playstation first party games), you would need a lot of flash storage on the device and very likely have to expand it via SD card, since a single AAA Sony game is already around 100+ GB. All those issues are also making me believe, whatever nintendo does next is not going to be in the same hardware power league than the steam deck.
I really hope this is true. Having a dedicated handheld system is something that is sorely missing in this industry nowadays in a time where the capabilities of systems like the Switch and Steam Deck and home consoles like the PS5 and Series X are fundamentally one and the same.
5:05 I recall in 2013 - Mobile phones just got games like Fruit Ninja, etc and these were super cheap and fun. Where's PSVITA - had worthy games once in a few months, with Crazy prices. With that all said - Dragon Crown on PSVITA was indescribable handheld experience. Ridge Racer got a game with 3 tracks, and few more tracks and cars were added during years. Mortal Kombat on PSVITA was super fun, still game was so drastically different so I remember people didn't want to really play it on offer. Teraway was cool and creative, still a novelty cuz no developers in a future years made anything with PsVITA's gimmicks like double-touch screen and Camera. Dunno even.
Somethhing the old SOny handhelds have is that feel quite good in the hands unlike de DS, 3DS or Switch. I was using my PSP the other day and it is a delight. If they decided to jump back in and create a comfortable sytem with cool games, I may try it out. If it happenes to be PS5 games ported, then I won't care since I have the PS5. But exclusive games, sure. In the end, I will be pleasantly surprised if it happéns.
I understand having a handheld tie in with the console so you dont have to make handheld only exclusives, but most people want to play AAA games on a big monitor or TV. Handhelds should have games designed for them. The switch in a hybrid but most of its biggest releases work great in short bursts on the go like mariokart and smash bros. Why would anyone buy a new psp no matter how good it is spec wise if there's nothing unique about it in terms of a gaming experience?
I have a Switch, Steam Deck, and an Android tablet. I'd still be interested in a Sony handheld console. I grew up playing Gameboy, GBC, GBA, and so on. I love mobile gaming. If I travel, I'm taking my games with me. Sony needs to avoid the proprietary memory fiasco this time.
I would purchase one in a heartbeat IF: 1) Sony supported the handheld from the day of release with games. 2) The memory cards used in the handheld were universally available (not just Sony proprietary cards).
Unless Sony does a complete 180 in regards to their handheld mindset, their better off leaving the portable market to others. While the Handheld market is hotter now than it probably ever has been in the past, there are tons of options, and not just Nintendo and cell phones at this point. Sony just slapping their name on a device, and creating their own memory card system just ain't gonna cut it in this day and age. They need a plan to elevate their option above the market, and an aggressive price to even give it a chance. The Vita should have walked hand in hand with the PS4, but they all but buried it in favor of the PS4. I just don't see them offering anything that would make a new device competitive in this current market. I would love to be proven wrong, but I have Sony's history on my side, and that's more than enough to say No Thank You!
If the target for a new Sony handheld is 1080p 60fps on the go, then they could use an ARM chipset to accomplish that and keep it competitively priced with the Switch. ARM has made incredible strides since 2011 and I don't think people realise how far it's come
Oh I see, you're saying it'll be like the Turbo Express or Nomad. That could be compelling and they wouldn't need to support it independently. Yeah that might work.
It'll be doa if they have completely seperate games. If Sony want a successful handheld they need to make games that work both on the handheld and the PS5. Basically copy what Xbox with the series S & X or backward compatibility with games being both on PS4 and PS5
still have my Vita and all its games i got for it. loved the system but the memory cards were WAY to expensive. the only way it would work is if they went the steam Deck route like you mention in the video. Allow my PS5 controller to work with it and be able to plug it into a TV and Id buy it.
It’s difficult not to get excited about the possibility… but I am not going to set myself up for disappointment. I submitted a question on the live show about Sony releasing a grab and go handheld that could play the same games but just at lower resolutions. I would bet money that a handheld would sell a ton more that PS VR setups. I would buy one in a heart beat. Sony needs to revisit the handheld console market ASAP.
Seeing how Sony struggles right now with the PSVR2 to sell it (and sell games for it) ... I really don't see them put a third front ! And seeing how Sony did with their Vita .. I can only shiver ! Other option would be A PS5/Steamdeck like console.. but when you see the prices ... would there be enough people to buy such a thing ? The only "viable" thing would be a "cloud portable" letting you play PS4/PS5 games. But who want a "cloud console" ?
I have been praying that Sony gets back into the market. As previously mentioned, PLEASE do not do proprietary memory card, and for god sakes make it a usb-c! Would be awesome if it tied into the ps5 as well, and obviously would work with ps remote play
That's defeat the whole point of owning a handheld. It means you have to own a ps5 just to play on the handheld in a specific vicinity in which the ps5 is near around. Microsoft would likely acquire Valve sometime in the future to fix their PC gaming issue by letting Valve taking over that side of the business. But they will invest in Steam Deck and continue to let it be a open developer platform so all developers can profit from it.
Don’t do proprietary memory and you should be doing better
Agreed but did the PSP Memory Sticks half people either back in the day? No one bought them because they had a Sony cameras also on hand (that they were also compatible with) when using them for the PSP likely and the Vita yes the price and being exclusive memory cards.
I won't deny they were an issue for sure though.
The 1GB internal was something in the 2000 model but nothing 16GB PSP Go level that should have been included in either model Vita when phones offered that they did or the 3DS internal besides the SD card slot.
Never was an issue for me as a late owner but I can understand the issues and did face it with the PSP apparently back in the day.
I got lucky with a 1000 and a 16GB included but that's not everyone either coming across that. Especially not launch.
To me the western audience didn't find games appealing enough and I can see why. It's why the Vita is more appealing to an anime games/visual novel/JRPG or kids games device than a western casual or hardcore audience with their favourite IPs on the go when many of them stopped appearing after a while or ones like Bioshock Vita didn't come out only a few types appearing in the first few years of the device. I like the Vita but I fit the Indie, Japanese games and controller gimmicks audiences.
one of the worst decisions in the history of gaming hardware
*make a great library of games for everyone
I think they learned there lesson.... at least I hope they did
They should at the very least allow other manufacturers to also make them. I think we'd be in better shape today if Sony allowed SanDisk or Samsung to make Vita cards too.
I personally adore handhelds. I really liked the PSP & the Vita. I’d buy another Sony handheld in a heart beat.
As PS Vita owner i would be realistic, there will no Vita 2 or something like that because PS has been total joke in this generation, even if they would make another handheld console it won't sell well either because we know how $ony keep screweing their customer with PS5 and all the BS move they pulling out.
@RunningInThe90s being realistic gets you nowhere Nintendo switch fanboy and Nintendo switch is garbage lmaooooooooooooo 😂
@@PSPortalShitpostingAntiSwitch LOL i'm not even Nintendrone aka Nintendo fanboy, in fact i really hate Nintendo and their overrated garbage console. Switch hardware is a total joke even my phone is more powerfull and able to emulate Switch game smoothly.
I would definitely be interested. Had a PSP and a VITA .
I like the concept of portable gaming devices, I bought a few over the years. I just never use them. If I'm home, I play on console. If I'm out and about, I'm not playing games. It always sounds good, I just never find the occasion to use them.
most people use it like they use phones or tablets, at home but in bed or while watching TV. It's not really about playing outside but the ease of play anywhere.
@@mielthesquid6536 exactly. I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I primarily play my Switch on the same TV that I use for my PS5. But I've loved the ability to chill on the front porch on a nice day, and just play some games. I can't do that with the PS5.
@@Xoulrath_ tf needs a switch? Or any of this.
@@6reen6uy people that make these comments on a gaming channel crack me up.
Really? Who needs a switch?
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@@Xoulrath_ I mean, you can do that with a PS5 with remote play, a phone and a controller. But that is a more complicated way than just a dedicated device.
So let me get this straight Sony who only releases 1-5 games on ps5 per year this year they’re only releasing Spider-Man is also gonna somehow make a new handheld and make games for that as well and somehow won’t make it a failure like the vita? This sounds like switch pro stuff aka it’ll never release
Sony has abandoned more projects than Google
Considering how the market is right now I feel like this would be the perfect time for them to attempt it again. If done well, and not proprietary, I think it will sell a lot of units. I still love my Vita 12 (?) years later and it fits in really well even now.
Yep, If Nintendo is gonna wait forever to give us a high power version. $300 with 1.5x -2x the power of the switch. Make it be able to play any Playstation game you own be sick.
@@simbanugz2906 I doubt the next switch or the successor will be $300... probably 349 or 399 seems more plausible.
Also, the current Tegra chip that is potentially based (T239) is potentially based on a tegra orin nx... which is more than 2x times the power of current Switch, even 3x times is, big leap.
Maybe that and if they market it better, have a good price they should sell exceptionally well maybe like $399 so higher than the Vita because inflation and storage but maybe have at least 64GB of internal storage but it'd compete in price with the Steam Deck that does 64GB with $399 price and then Sony could have a 5G model of their Vita 2 for $499 or something still 64GB internal storage
Make it considerably more powerful and change $450 for it. Hopefully also offer a dock witn a mobile class egpu in it as an option not compulsory whoever wants even better performance.
"Considering the market"
In the middle of a century peak recession?
Yes, I want a new PlayStation, portable
An in between spec wise PS4 / PS5 portable would be amazing.
How about no ps portable and yes to the superior steam deck
These Sony fans are nuts.
Steamdeck and the upcoming other one already are superior by being open to everything PC, Emulator friendly, Gamepass support or capable.
Sony - PS exclusives, PC Scraps. That's not a big seller outside of the types who usually buy VR gimmick hardware. On top of that Sony is #1 at awful battery life, seems like a winning combination
i don't want to carry a 600g brick to play one of 10 compatible games for 3 hours
@The_Poro_King stay butthurt to sony portables steam deck fanboy crying that ps portables live rent free in your head 😂😂😂😂😂
@@topgear3128 cope harder poor jobless Nintendo switch fanboy 😂😂😂😂
Sony needs to revisit the handheld market.
Right now is the best time for Sony to get back into the HandHeld market
I've always said Sony will do PS4 portable when it is financially viable.
John, the PSP Go was ahead of it's time. Now is the time to bring that idea back because it can thrive. All they need to do is add wifi to that device, add a 500GB NVMe hard drive with room for expansion and let people play PS+ games and have the option to download any game available in the PS storefront INCLUDING PS5 titles. The PS5 titles would obviously be scaled down to run on it like the Steam Deck does with modern titles. What Sony should NOT do is have a handheld that has it's own games like the PS Vita, that would kill the device because we all know how Sony is about supporting their peripherals that aren't the main console. This thing would sell like crazy if they did that.
A PS4 portable makes the most sense. Huge library from the start, have some bundles with PS+, not a huge investment for them since they have everything in place ( os, dev tools etc) and not a big risk. Have also a dock and you have a winner.
Nah
That's a good idea. Rumour has it the Next switch will have PS4 level graphics so they would be perfect competitors. However I doubt Sony would make their handheld dockable as that would take away from PS5 sales.
@@netnomad47 The Next Switch will be more powerful than a PS4.
8:06 I'd really be surprised to see a PS3 Slim in 2023 lol
(I'm aware that he meant PS5)
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Ngl… I feel like Sony would actually be LESS likely to revisit the handheld market now that there’s so much more competition in it. It would be different if it was still just Nintendo, but now Valve and Asus have jumped in as well. Sony usually plays things safe, I’d be shocked if they announced a successor to the Vita.
The difference is that PC titles are designed to allow scalable settings. The XBSX/S and PS5 are not. They have to tailor the settings to get a streamlined experience. Adding another setting profile and optimization to a Sony Handheld is going to be WAY down on the list of priorities for these developers. Sony needs to stay where they are best. That is the PS5 and locking down anti competitive exclusive 3rd party deals.
I love my PS Vita so much, I still play it today. There’s so many games for it. I wish it officially supported PS5 remote play!
God I hope it's a new handheld! I miss Sony Handhelds so much!
The price of the unit is what makes this unlikely.
The steam deck already cost about the same as a next-gen console. (Or more) But you have the added bonus of the massive steam library. It doesn't make sense for Sony to charge you same price as a PS5 (or more), for something that only runs PlayStation games and not as well.
Sony could potentially justify whatever price they want to charge if and only if they get backwards compatibility right. After all, that's one of the main appealing factors of the Steam Deck: the amount of games that can be played on it, whether they're verified for it or if certain workarounds are needed.
Going with your classics idea, that's already a thing. You can use your PS plus account on the steam deck.
Sony invested a crap ton of money to port games over to PC. And build a PC ecosystem. Even making sure their games are steam deck verified.
Why would they gamble on building and stocking a $600 plus handheld to do something that they already are doing. (Allowing PS plus and native AAA games to run on PC handheld systems). They currently get all the benefits of portable gamers wanting to give Sony money, without having to RND a crazy expensive handheld that might be more than the PS5. (And risk another handheld failure).
I mean anything is possible. And never say never. But it would be a weird financial gamble for them to do it.
I think Sony's best bet would be to revisit the idea of a gaming phone. Having a sliding device, with physical buttons and sticks that you can stream PS5 games and maybe download classic games from the PS library.
Yet they made the expriaplay trash on purpose.
That's Sony's only winning move and they wont do it
I would be interested in it. Especially if it could play ps4 and ps3 games as well. There'd be so much buying potential.
@Calo Nord True but they could do emulation. I mean, the technology is already out there. They just need to contact the tech devs and collaborate instead of trying to shut them down.
@@AngelXterror and they won’t do that, they want you to rebuy it
@@AngelXterror ok richman.
@@DarthRevan2.0117 I'm not rich but all companies understand is money.
Sadly Sony has no interest in PS3 backward compatibility. Our only hope is that our fav ps3 games get ports and remasters for newer systems.
As someone who bought a PSP and Vita at launch, I'd only get one if there were no proprietary memory cards and if I could be assured they wouldn't abandon it like they did the Vita.
PS Vita was murdered by the prices of memory cards this time sony need to be careful
Talking about the ROG Ally, it's useful to know that the Ally promises 50% more performance at 15W and 100% more performance at 35W compared to the Steam Deck (I'm assuming Steam Deck is capped to 15W in all tests).
So realistically for the device to be portable (run for more than 40 mins on battery) and not be to loud, it's best to have it at or under 15-20W, just like the Steam Deck, so only up to 50-60% of Steam Deck performance.
If you look at it from this side, Sony's portable console should have at least the same APU (or at least underlying GPU), as the ROG Ally, if not a better one, to have full FHD 30fps for all PS5 games.
Edit: added clarification for portable device
I would absolutely love another Sony portable system. A thought that I had was I wonder if Sony will see this as an opportunity to test the water for having its first digital only system from the beginning and all games would have to be downloaded like on the steam deck and no more cartridges like the switch and vita. Not saying I want this future but it doesn’t seem too far out to happen.
I really enjoy the Steamdeck and would be interested in a Sony style machine. The larger size of the deck makes for a very comfortable experience and I don't get that horrible twisted thumb position from smaller handhelds. Hopefully a Sony handheld will be as ergonomic.
The Steamdeck is to damn big. Garbage battery life and display.
@@ZackSNetwork go play Kirby and Mario again friend
Steamdeck isnt portable ...too big...Switch lite perfect size handheld...PS Vita ok size, but a lil small, no L2 R2 triggers tho
Dear Sony, a handheld should have 2 analog sticks and 4 shoulder buttons. Thanks.😊
Honestly I just want the experience of having a Sony handheld while it’s relevant and though unfortunately I doubt that there’s a big enough market for them to make another system like the psp or vita that used physical cartridges and such i would love for them to try it one last time cause like a ps4 powered handheld sounds good like I like hybrids and all that but I just miss dedicated handhelds
That's the one thing I'm all but certain of. If this ever exists (and that's a big but) it almost 100% for sure would be completely digital-only.
It would really simplify things hopefully. I know that's not what some people want to hear but I guarantee that's how they would do it.
A PlayStation 3 revision.....where do I sign up?
I think you would be more likely to see a streaming only handheld that connects to your ps5.
As sad as it is yeah I see that happening more. Then again Logitech G Cloud is a Android tablet even if advertised as a streaming device so it isn't dead/useless once you can't access the services it is Android app capable but who really wants a tablet with controls on the side and for Android apps when a phone with a grip and being almost Switch like to allow taking the controls on and off option or using the touch controls anyway and people have a phone on them always.
I still play my Vita from time to time, adored the PSP in its glory days - I'd be so excited for a new Sony handheld.
Why it’s dead?
@ZackSNetwork When it came out, Sony used their own memory cards, which were very expensive for the little storage you would get.
Then, just lack of support from Sony themselves.
The "PC Portable" makes the most sense... and I wouldn't put it past Sony to price it in line with the price of the PS5 and the PSVR2 at the $500-$600 price point playing games with specs similar to the ASUS ALLY but PS5 games at 800p or 1080p / 30hz or 60hz (targeted performance)
As I said, the only way that Sony could do this is if it has the capabilities of a PS4 to PS5 , they won’t be able to develop multiple games ( a console version and then a completely different portable version like the uncharted version for the vita) and we’ve seen third-party companies completely Ignore the switch even though it’s 100+ million unit seller. My only hope is that it won’t be this big monster like the steam deck. I love my steam deck, but I also very much miss smaller handhelds like the vita or PSP or even the 3DS. If they could make some thing with a 5 to 6 inch screen, that’s thin and sleek, and can play PS4 + level games. I would be OK with it being a digital only system to get that form factor and I feel a lot of other people would be willing to sacrifice this as well. Can you imagine playing Spider-Man 2 on your PS5 and then taking it on the go. Hence, I think the name should be “P5P” where the 5 acts as both an S and a 5 the “PlayStation 5 Portable”
You heard the name here first people lol
Everyone mocked the idea of a "Xbox Series S Handheld" even when Microsoft already has the hardware split baked into their ecosystem, and now here Spawnwave is explaining the viability of a "PS5 Portable".
Of course the real reason to doubt the probability of "Series S Handheld" ever happening is Microsoft is fully invested in the Cloud, but the specs of Series S dramatically lean toward being compatible with a battery operated configuration (you could EASILY get 25% more power out of the Series S silicon with a software update).
I'm honestly interested to see what they at least try. It'll all come down to what it costs and what it can actually do as well as how well it actually works. If they can get all three then I think they might have something.
Imo it all comes down to games. They would need to add wifi and we'd need to be able to stream PS+ and even go past that and open up cloud streaming for PS5 games. They CANNOT have their own games like the Vita or else they're leaving it to die. I don't own a PS5 but if they did what I suggest I'd buy one day 1.
@@sam805236 there are like 20 other handhelds that can do cloud gaming. Just because it’s sony slapped on the name you really think that would sell more than the 20 others that can already do this?
Sony should support it with 1st party games but they probably won't cause the devs are all on ps5. It doesn't make sense to work on weaker hardware now. We only have 1 1st party game confirmed for ps5 this year so handheld would just take even more games away
I'd love a new handheld from them. But I could also see them just doing a dedicated PS5 streaming device (like the Logitech one). Then there would be no extra game development costs.
The only problem is that technology is still years and years for being anywhere near where it would need to be in order to be really feasible.
If it's not playing on physical hardware I think most people won't want, it I know I wouldn't.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I just mean streaming from your own PS5, not cloud streaming.
Although I think they do cloud streaming for PS3 games? So who knows what they would attempt next
@@GoatV8
Ah I see my bad (kinda) although the Vita did that as well. And "attempt" is the right word. I honestly don't have all that much faith in the people currently working at Playstation. I used to but the people currently in charge just aren't what it used to be.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu looks like we were both right; it's a remote play/streaming device and Sony let us down again haha.
@@GoatV8
I can't even pretend to be surprised.
This is exactly the kind of
non-announcement I was expecting.
They can't even let us play PS3 natively forcing us to stream it.
(And it works like crap)
I would get PS handheld if it ran near almost the same as ps5 and had first party games and 3rd parties as well
In the hospital and just got a Psvita for free...... can't wait until 2marrow. Going home 2marrow to my ps5
8:08 Wait, they're gonna bring back the PS3? I can finally get MGS4! Yippee!
I really hope they do. I love handhelds like most people. And even got in on the 3ds resurgence a year ago. But I never my own vita and I can't justify buying one now (unlike the 3ds. Which offers a unique form factor)
I'd love to see Sony handhelds back.
Problem is that mainstream isn’t interested in paying $300-$500 for a handheld.
Hybrids are the new handhelds as the 3rd was the last to jump ship. Sony needs a hybrid system that when docked could match the power of the Xbox Series S.
I'm totally down for a new handheld. Don't think there's a chance they would name it PSP or Vita 2. Whatever they do it's a must that they don't do proprietary memory cards and please don't make it more expensive than the PS5.
I think that has doomed the PSVR 2. It can have the most awesome specs but when people see it's more expensive than the actual console... they're going to check tf out.
I really hope they do build a handheld. It’s not about a portable system with a separate library. People want to take console quality games wherever they go. Without relying on an internet connection with remote play. I’m honestly jealous of Steam Deck making Elden Ring portable. Please Sony make a powerful handheld!!
Sony would probably just make a streaming handheld like that Logitech Cloud one.
PS5 games in hand held form? Sign me up!
I would guess something similar to the Vita but with the Switch style form factor... detachable controllers, a dock, etc.
What about a PS4 Portable? Forget the name but the concept looks good to me with a different name of course and also standard micro SD or SD for sure
Just make 2 PSP3 models. 1000 model is PHYSICALLY Backwards compatible with PSP & PS Vita. 2000 model is just digitally backwards compatibility. Basically just make a portable PS4/PS5 and make it smaller than the Switch and Steam Deck.
Sounds like Sony fans are already done with PSVR2 anytime the ghost of the Vits makes a return to the conversation.
A PS hand held that did a cross play with the Ps5 , but could also be a stand-alone would be a great idea, especially when it looks like we are in a recession. It doesn't make alienate the people who are just now getting the PS5 while giving the ones that have had the PS5 since launch something new. It would be great to be able to stop playing a game on the ps5 but then pick it back up somewhere else on a portable device that was playing the same game.
I can see the Switch 2 vs Vita 2 comparison videos incoming
I’d really like it if it were a Sony handheld. I love handheld gaming but I haven’t gotten a Steam Deck yet. I think a new Sony one would be more appealing to me than a Steam Deck or anything other than a Switch 2
Definitely 💯
As a proud owner of two PS Vitas, I would love if Sony got back into the handheld space. The PSP and the Vita were both premium-feeling devices that were ahead of their time, especially when it came to specs.
I don't think Sony would be able to support a handheld if it is a traditional device with it's own dedicated games. They are already supporting PS5 and PSVR2 as well as porting games to PC. But, if it was possible to do what Jon is suggesting then that would be fantastic.
I still think Sony considers streaming (both via Remote Play and a future PSNow mobile app) their answer to on the go gaming. But, with the Switch being such a runaway success, Sony may just decide to jump back into handhelds.
They wont
I'm not sure why one of these companies doesn't use cloud gaming to make handheld games for mobile. No one wants to lug around another handheld device AND their phone. As a gaming company, it's better just to utilize the hardware everyone already has, like the PC market. Mobile gaming is awful. There's a big spot to fill, to have REAL gaming on our phones. There's big money there, but no one is filling the void. Use the hardware everyone already HAS.
Please do us one favor don’t call it the PS Vita 2 that’s if Sony is really releasing another handheld console I’ll sure buy theirs over Nintendo cause of their power graphics performance difference and trophies 🏆
Just call it the PSP2 the PSP is a marketable and nostalgic name
I think the problem with them doing a device is that the steam deck and other competitors will be open to Xbox game pass which allows people choice. If it’s on par with the steam deck and better designed people will take a look. But it being a closed platform takes it out of the conversation for myself at least.
I do think that's the biggest problem.
And the single biggest benefit something like the switch has going for it. Sure it's a walled garden too but those games are never going anywhere else. (not officially anyway)
It's not going to be a handheld PC lol. It's better for it to be a sole competitor to Nintendo console just like the old times.
The Vita was the very first handheld that could play AAA games on the go. The Vita was doing it before it was cool. Ofc Sony is most at fault for giving it no trust and being very anticonsumer with it because of their trauma of the psp hacking scene.
As much as I would love to see a new PS handheld, I don't trust Sony will do a good job of it. Perhaps they'll just do a streaming handheld if they decide to.
Having access to all ps4 games alone would be an absolute win in my book. Bloodborne on a handheld is a dream.
As a dad, I would be so excited about this. I don’t have much time to game in front of a tv these days, so even though I have a PS5, I’m still 95% using the Switch and always waiting to see how Switch versions/ports do. So if they could pull it off, I’d be so down
My biggest problem with Sony handhelds is that they feel as secondary complementary consoles; no numbered sequels, no big titles released on them, you had to have Sony main console in order to enjoy the meaty games. On the other hand Nintendo handheld feels like self-contained consoles. 3DS had exclusive numbered sequels like SMT4, Luigi's Mansion 2, MH3U, MH4, Bravely Default, Animal Crossing and more. If Sony releases a new handheld then for sure you'll need PS5 on top of it in order to fully enjoy. 3DS was a fantastic device and the Switch already blurred the line between home console and handheld. I don't see Sony succeeding unless their handheld is literally PS5 portable, in that case I'd gladly buy one.
I’m all in for it. I did actually miss out on both the PSP and the Vita.
A handheld Sony device that can run PS4/PS5 games, albeit at a lower quality / resolution, that includes trophies and let’s you play any games you’ve already bought portably would be an instant buy from me! Make it happen 👏🏼
All Sony needs to do is make a portable PS4. Keep the ecosystem going on a portable console, backwards compatible with all previous games and accessories and give it a dock Switch style. Done.
Jeff Grubb said its a cloud streaming handheld device. There you go!
I want a new handheld as long as it fits in my pocket. I'm not a fan of the size of the steam deck and switch.
I think people overlook the fact that sony was the first one with a high end portable handheld/emulator and streamering device in one
I think we are looking at this from the wrong angle...
It will most likely be marketed as a super duper DualSense Controller as opposed to a Portable PlayStation.
Also, it will allow you to use the Screen on the Controller as a Second Screen, maybe for the Radar in the long awaited MGS Remake, or use it for Codec Sequences.
I absolutely adore handheld gaming (not mobile to be clear)
If sony would release a new handheld, I’d probably get it day one
I'd love a new Sony Handheld, but I don't just want a digital PS5 but portable. I'd want them to do a proper Handheld with Physical Media. I like consoles to have Physical games, I'm not a fan of all digital, I accept it on the Steam Deck because it's a portable PC, if Sony makes a Handheld, it would be a portable console and I like consoles to have Physical media. I know it's dying and I know a lot of games don't even come on the disc anyway, but I love Physical Media and I want it to stay around as long as possible.
And what storage medium could it use for its 100GB+ games?
@@ukkev7290 I'm not sure to be honest, but the Switch does have cartridge sizes of up to 64GB, so Sony could use a similar technology to Nintendo. Since most physical games unfortunately don't include the full game on the disc/cartridge anyway, they could have a system where you have 60GB on the cartridge and then download the rest. My ideal Sony Handheld would not be a PS5 portable, it would be it's own thing like the PSP and Vita before it (incredibly unlikely, but I can dream). Since it would have it's own games and obviously wouldn't be as powerful as the PS5, hopefully game files could be smaller, as you wouldn't need 4K textures for games running on a 1080p screen. I definitely don't have a brilliant answer for how they could do it, It's just something I'd like to see in a new Handheld from Sony.
@@SilverStormShadow
I don't see the point in being bothered about owning physical games when the games aren't playable without a download patch.
I'd love to have Sony enter this space. I'm no console player, especially PS, but I'd happily welcome their competition. I had a vita and it was incredible, I really think Sony can add to this new generation of Handheld gaming.
Valve is really in a league of their own right now, selling at a loss for platform profits makes the device so attractive for not just the users but Valve. Sony is in the same position - if not better with their prior experience.
Please come true
Ah yes, a PlayStation 3 revision with a. Detachable disc drive
I doubt that, the PSVR2 is struggling and unless Sony focus on it moving forward.. it can be a disaster. The handheld market is also very hot at the moment, companies dont like to invest on highly competitive markets. Even the Switch has strong competition, the Steam Deck is a huge success and the newly announced ASUS Rog Ally can be just as big. There are also cloud based handhelds like the Logitech and others. Assides from the Switch, people can play any PC/XBoX and PS games on these device, natively or through Game Pass/GeForce Now. Why would somebody buy a PS handheld to have a limited game catalog,iwhen they can already play everything on other devices? Its would be stupid!
Not even XBoX is focused in a handheld, and they have a huge advantage on multiplatform development and unlike Playstation, a massive cloud gaming infra structure/service (Game Pass). They are letting others companies do the hardware so they can just supply the software/services
Steam deck only sold 1 million in 8 months so nintendo is not worried about it
The Steam Deck isn't exactly competition for the Switch. People buy Nintendo systems for their exclusives, not their power.
but it would also mean, you have to buy another super expansive handheld maybe additional to your ps5 just to play on the go. I think this scenario has the same issue the steam deck has. usually you want to expand the range of games you can play so having a ps5 would make a ps5 handheld less interesting because you would be able to play the same games (and only the digital ones) but it would be far more expansive. if you buy a ps5 and a switch your range of games is far higher.
Also like the steam deck, battery time likely very low (especially if you want to buy the playstation first party games), you would need a lot of flash storage on the device and very likely have to expand it via SD card, since a single AAA Sony game is already around 100+ GB.
All those issues are also making me believe, whatever nintendo does next is not going to be in the same hardware power league than the steam deck.
The GPD Win 4 is basically a slightly more powerful steam deck squeezed into a PS Vita factor anyway lol
I really hope this is true. Having a dedicated handheld system is something that is sorely missing in this industry nowadays in a time where the capabilities of systems like the Switch and Steam Deck and home consoles like the PS5 and Series X are fundamentally one and the same.
5:05 I recall in 2013 - Mobile phones just got games like Fruit Ninja, etc and these were super cheap and fun. Where's PSVITA - had worthy games once in a few months, with Crazy prices. With that all said - Dragon Crown on PSVITA was indescribable handheld experience. Ridge Racer got a game with 3 tracks, and few more tracks and cars were added during years. Mortal Kombat on PSVITA was super fun, still game was so drastically different so I remember people didn't want to really play it on offer. Teraway was cool and creative, still a novelty cuz no developers in a future years made anything with PsVITA's gimmicks like double-touch screen and Camera. Dunno even.
Somethhing the old SOny handhelds have is that feel quite good in the hands unlike de DS, 3DS or Switch. I was using my PSP the other day and it is a delight. If they decided to jump back in and create a comfortable sytem with cool games, I may try it out. If it happenes to be PS5 games ported, then I won't care since I have the PS5. But exclusive games, sure. In the end, I will be pleasantly surprised if it happéns.
I agree. I think the psp is the perfect form factor.
Sony getting back into the handheld console market would be very interesting.
It's funny this because what I most play on my Steam Deck is my PS5 via Remote Play using Chiaki.
I understand having a handheld tie in with the console so you dont have to make handheld only exclusives, but most people want to play AAA games on a big monitor or TV. Handhelds should have games designed for them. The switch in a hybrid but most of its biggest releases work great in short bursts on the go like mariokart and smash bros. Why would anyone buy a new psp no matter how good it is spec wise if there's nothing unique about it in terms of a gaming experience?
I have a Switch, Steam Deck, and an Android tablet. I'd still be interested in a Sony handheld console. I grew up playing Gameboy, GBC, GBA, and so on. I love mobile gaming. If I travel, I'm taking my games with me. Sony needs to avoid the proprietary memory fiasco this time.
I would purchase one in a heartbeat IF:
1) Sony supported the handheld from the day of release with games.
2) The memory cards used in the handheld were universally available (not just Sony proprietary cards).
Considering they use m.2s in the ps5 it'll be the same.
Unless Sony does a complete 180 in regards to their handheld mindset, their better off leaving the portable market to others. While the Handheld market is hotter now than it probably ever has been in the past, there are tons of options, and not just Nintendo and cell phones at this point. Sony just slapping their name on a device, and creating their own memory card system just ain't gonna cut it in this day and age. They need a plan to elevate their option above the market, and an aggressive price to even give it a chance. The Vita should have walked hand in hand with the PS4, but they all but buried it in favor of the PS4. I just don't see them offering anything that would make a new device competitive in this current market. I would love to be proven wrong, but I have Sony's history on my side, and that's more than enough to say No Thank You!
I'd definitely pick up this new handheld system if it's really happening! Loved the PSP and Vita, still have them..
If the target for a new Sony handheld is 1080p 60fps on the go, then they could use an ARM chipset to accomplish that and keep it competitively priced with the Switch. ARM has made incredible strides since 2011 and I don't think people realise how far it's come
Just ask amd for the same chip inside the ps5 and customize it to make it mobile making ports easier
Oh I see, you're saying it'll be like the Turbo Express or Nomad. That could be compelling and they wouldn't need to support it independently. Yeah that might work.
I dont expect them to split development like the vita. It will probably be a portable ps5 lite (1080p machine like the series s)
It'll be doa if they have completely seperate games.
If Sony want a successful handheld they need to make games that work both on the handheld and the PS5.
Basically copy what Xbox with the series S & X or backward compatibility with games being both on PS4 and PS5
still have my Vita and all its games i got for it. loved the system but the memory cards were WAY to expensive. the only way it would work is if they went the steam Deck route like you mention in the video. Allow my PS5 controller to work with it and be able to plug it into a TV and Id buy it.
Why would you plug it into the the TV if you have a PS5?
If it's like hybrid system like the switch I'd be interested if it's just a handheld probably not
Would love the idea of a portable ps5
It’s difficult not to get excited about the possibility… but I am not going to set myself up for disappointment. I submitted a question on the live show about Sony releasing a grab and go handheld that could play the same games but just at lower resolutions. I would bet money that a handheld would sell a ton more that PS VR setups. I would buy one in a heart beat. Sony needs to revisit the handheld console market ASAP.
Seeing how Sony struggles right now with the PSVR2 to sell it (and sell games for it) ... I really don't see them put a third front !
And seeing how Sony did with their Vita .. I can only shiver !
Other option would be A PS5/Steamdeck like console.. but when you see the prices ... would there be enough people to buy such a thing ?
The only "viable" thing would be a "cloud portable" letting you play PS4/PS5 games.
But who want a "cloud console" ?
Is everyone forgetting that Sony turned their portable handheld department into the PC department?
I have been praying that Sony gets back into the market. As previously mentioned, PLEASE do not do proprietary memory card, and for god sakes make it a usb-c! Would be awesome if it tied into the ps5 as well, and obviously would work with ps remote play
That's defeat the whole point of owning a handheld. It means you have to own a ps5 just to play on the handheld in a specific vicinity in which the ps5 is near around. Microsoft would likely acquire Valve sometime in the future to fix their PC gaming issue by letting Valve taking over that side of the business. But they will invest in Steam Deck and continue to let it be a open developer platform so all developers can profit from it.