The Tainos were not wiped out. There's a reason why many of us Puerto Ricans are tri-racial. Spanish/ African/ and Taino blood flows through our veins. I did an ancestry test via 23andMe and I have 15.2% Indigenous (Taino) ancestry. I am very proud to represent not only my Taino heritage but also my Spanish and my African heritage because at the end of the day I wouldn't be here otherwise.
A geneticist already proved that Puertoricans have more than 15% of Indigenous DNA more so than any other Caribbean land. It was compared to a centuries year old Taino woman's bone. However, the CENSUS review to acknowledge it. Eraser, genocide, you name it, we've faced it.
I’m quite the mix being from a Swede and Puerto Rican. I did ancestry dna recently and was surprised to see how much African, Senegal, Congo, Bantu tribes etc I had as well. The most interesting was the Taino I had (Viking on the Swede side was pretty interesting too not gonna lie lol) it was wild to see that they were brought to “extinction” with only 200 survivors. I searched RUclips to see if there was any news about Taino people and it’s interesting to see others with trace amounts in their dna. It’s wild to think we came from the last 200 people that were natives of the island after comumbus arrived. I saw one of the quotes he wrote in a journal about the Taino as well. While most natives went to war with other tribes etc, the Taino were peaceful…. Too peaceful. He went on to say how well built they were and how easily they could be taken advantage of. Some messed up stuff. But it’s also crazy our ancestors were more than likely friends 400 years ago!
@@TheReaper1 Same here! I had 15% indigenous dna, and about 14% from different countries in the African continent. Well look at it this way, for decades the CENSUS has been apart of that erasure. For example: labeling us as spaniards during the world war, and also recategorizing us as white or black when we would identify as indigenous in the census. I'm talking about early 1900's. We were never wiped out! Thanks for sharing :) Cristopher Columbus in his journal said we were beautiful, generous groups of people...he also said we would be great slaves. You have to read the stories written by the oppressed not the oppressors. The story gets twisted to fit their narratives at the time. We are resilient people and we are still here, it shows in our DNA. Now it's time that the Census stops denying it. Read "War against all puertoricans, a peoples history of the United States, and a personal favorite of mine "All the Indians died off: and 20 other myths about native Americans by Roxanne Dunbar". I have a bunch of recommendations if you need.
@@TheReaper1 and Still today our American history claims that Christopher Columbus discovered America when we all clearly and transparently know no he did not.
This is so dumb, as a Puerto Ricsn i don't go around telling people that i am Taino. We no longer have Native tribes on the island. Just because i have a small percentage of indigenous blood, that does not give me the right to say that i am full blooded Native American. Now you have these folks claiming indigenous rights for a tribe that no longer exist.
I hope all the Native Americans of Peurto Rico,and other First Nation people of the world gets what they all want . I want those thing also for you all .🎉🇵🇷
They wouldn't be native Americans. They'd be native Puerto Ricans. There are no pure blood Taíno Indians alive today. They would've looked much different than the Puerto Ricans claiming trible heritage. They don't want to do the DNA tests because they know that they're mostly Spaniard white, with a mix of African and possibly some Asian.
Numerous federally recognized tribes in the US have members with less % than most Puerto Rican yet are full citizens in their tribal nation. The desicion of who is Indian is really about power and who gets to wield it. In some places just one drop makes you Black no matter how you present, yet to be indigenous more than half is demanded. While the average Taino is 15% there are many who range in the 20 to 30%.and even higher has been found in a minority of cases. The point is that there is a double standard at play and that shows the racist element. The 62% of indigenous marker is totally through the maternal side and women carry and pass down the culture and life ways. Having African ancestry certainly does not lessen indigenous identities, this argument was used to erase the indigenous peoples east of the Mississippi especially in Virginia, and the Carolinas. The Lumbee tribe is a prime example of this type of abuse similar to what Taino are dealing with today.
Yes, it's ridiculous 🙄; I have ancestry amongst the Mid-Atlantic tribes (Saponi, Nansemond, Lumbee amongst them) that are not recognized outside of the region.
It is so they can steal land and resources. Some complete stranger called my home a couple of weeks ago to try to buy mine (almost four acres of forest) for practically nothing. As if I don’t know the value of a dollar! Thieves who want control.
We with you too. A lot of PR are asleep and they don't understand how important HT is for us. Y'all just need to use your Levite powers against the enemy. Not our brothers and sisters!
Grown up I hearing stories, but as someone who grew up in Puerto Rico, we where told that it was impossible. We are very spiritual people and when I saw my indigenous blood come out in the DNA test I got so emotional. I don't think it's necessary to have a DNA test to claim you Taino identity, but it was truly beautiful for me to see.
@@llllii1768 comments like yours as what causes division amongst tribes Mayans were cousins and it’s a fact that a lot of taínos did intermingle with Mayans
My great grandmothers mother was pure Taino . Only the female lineage survived but Taino ancestry is absolutely existent and alive . When I drew a DNA sample turned out my quantum was 1/5 Taino (exactly 20%) and couldn’t be more proud to be ! 🇵🇷
Exactly! When people try to tell me that the Taino women went with the Spaniard men “willingly”, I remind them of this fact. If it were “willing”, why would they feel the need to exterminate all the males from the island? There was nothing voluntary about this and our DNA proves it.
@@Wildflower687 "Willingly" what Puerto Rican women, in the U.S., are doing is prefering to be with Black/Afro-American men. It has been that way for a long time. Unless a Puerto Rican man is a pro-athlete or entertainer he has a slim chance to be with a Puerto Rican woman. In Puerto Rico the Dominican men, who are primarily the ones who arrive on yolas to the island (and who are also black! ) have a high success rate at finding a woman in Puerto Rico. What good would all this "I'am 10%, 12%, 15% taino" business mean in 100 years from now?
My great grandmother was Taína. I was raised by her and she shared many stories and the language with me. I tested my dna and I am 33% indigenous Puerto Rican (45% Colombian indigenous) & 41% identical alleles to Atunwa Inaru. We are still here 🦜
22% here my cousin 36% and other 40%, I also seen someone commented got 45% DNA tested and yet Billion Ricans out there who haven't taken DNA test might have 50% who knows 🤷
I’m coming back here after discovering nearly 20% of my DNA is traced back to the Taino People. My desire to learn comes from my desire to keep my people alive.
I'm Jewish, Italian and Greek from my father side. Puerto Rican-Taino, White-Cuban mixed from my mother side. My Taino DNA is 20% as well, so it definitely from my mother side of the family. I am proud of my Taino bloodline heritage run through my vein. 😊👍
I read the whole story of the Puerto Rican somewhere. The Puerto Ricans got their respect because we fought and won many times… proud to be a Puerto Rican
I am half Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 and according to two different DNA tests, I am only 3 generations from a full blooded taino ancestor. I keep feeling a call within me to learn my heritage, learn my culture. I grew up with some of the PR culture but I feel drawn to the taino side as well. I hope to learn it and teach it to my children!
My grandmother, who lived high in the mountains of Jamaica and passed away in 1989, was a Taino they called her 'Sister Tain'i, and she looked just like the two women in this presentation!❤😮
10 месяцев назад+2
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I study archaeology and work in cultural heritage with Indigenous people here in Australia. I am also half Puerto Rican and by extension have Taino blood as many Puerto Ricans do. The gatekeeping/exclusivity of DNA testing and physical traits is a huge issue for Indigenous descendants around the world and is a complicated issue. I fully agree with the mujer that it is a double edged sword. I do not go around telling people I am Indigenous Puerto Rican but I would love to adopt aspects of my ancestors culture into my life so they are not forgotten. I think the movement to implement Taino culture and tradition back into the Puerto Rico is a wonderful idea.
It probably also doesn't help there is self-hating Puerto Ricans that want to seem more like Spanish people despite what Spanish Colonizers has done to 🇵🇷.
I agree it’s nice but it’s historically inaccurate so basically lying. It would be great to say “we are reconstructing practices based on what we know about out ancestors” but not to claim an unbroken lineage which is just not true.
Solidarity with the Taino people. You don’t need anyone else to recognise your identity for it to be real but it would be good if the Anglo Americans and the Latinx would be confident and generous enough to see that mutual respect benefits all. Love and best wishes from anglophone Ireland, sadly I can’t speak my native tongue fluently. A legacy of colonialism and the attempt to sublimate our culture and identity into theirs. ✊🏼
Don't call us latinx. Idk how many times I have to tell people how offensive this is to us LATINOS and how offensive it is to the spaniah language. Stop the woke crap bud.
Such a beautiful ceremony. I'm boricua and i honestly say i would love to join in that ritual because I want to feel closer to my ancestors and closer to my roots. May God bless and be on the side of of them all in their fight for justice and rights over the taino land.
I fight this ignorance constantly. Mi abuelita taught me who I was and where we are from. Even the DNA test even says over 20% Taino but people will still look at me and tell me I don't exist ...it makes me weep
I mean…what’s the other 80% do you ever think about setting your ego to the side and actually respecting the real Tianos that have departed? why is it important to claim a murdered group of people and displace their image?
My family is from Puerto Rico, specifically Ponce area and I have indigenous ancestry as well Spanish, Portuguese and west African. Its important to reserved the history, stories, and culture of the Taino people. For many of us Puerto Ricans all we know and told is history and names of those who colonized the island. We don't know about the stories of natives as well the various African enslaved people and their orginal language and culture.What little we do know, is woven into Puerto Rican culture but it diluted. I very much support those Tainos who live today who haven't forgotten and are fighting to keep it alive.
My grandma also born from Guaraguao (red tailed hawk), Ponce! My DNA mixed with 26% portguese, 22% spaniard and 21% Taino rest Denmark Irish African etc from 8% to below. 👍🏼
Most governments will find a way to take your land, if P.R. Becomes a State then the government can take the land when the poor can’t pay property taxes, or when someone dies inheritance tax will make the family sell their land if they can’t pay.
This is an unpopular opinion: As Boricuas, we have a large triad of cultures with some nuances interspersed throughout. It is largely Taino, African, and Spanish. We are at a pivotal point in history; we can decide to either continue placing prominence upon our Spanish ancestry and continue the status quo. Haven’t we done that enough? We speak Spanish. In some parts of the island we even want to SEEM Spanish. I say it’s time we begin prioritizing our Taino and African ancestry. Being that our Taino history is disjointed and hard to piece together at times (due to the injustices we’ve suffered), it seems like we have to attempt to keep our history, culture, and traditions alive. However, we also have to bring this into the future. We have to be the ones that decide what being Taino means to us NOW. The closest I can think of is Afro-Taino Futurism. It begs the question: what does it mean to be descendants of Africans and Tainos in 2023? What do we do with this? I think it’s important to love both of these cultures because they both suffered in unimaginable ways, and could use the front seat. Spanish has been in the forefront for far too long. Time to start teaching these languages in schools. And this blood quantum stuff is insane. If anything the fact that all of us have even 1% of indigenous blood is a testament to our ancestors. They are still, and will always be with us.
A portion of taínos have negligible African ancestry so one cannot paint a brush but I understand for many it makes sense being the categories are typically close in percentile results resulting in a more phenotypically tri racial result.
@@YUCAYEQUE i agree 100%. And I mean that specifically for people like myself that have a surprisingly balanced mix of the 3, (in my case slightly more Spanish, slightly more African, and the smaller percentage of the 3, Indigenous) it becomes more of a philosophical idea similar to Afro futurism. For the trigueños out there we have to decide for ourselves how we express that culture.
@@newenglandlofi4195 It isn’t a surprising result with Ricans that range from mid teens African to even as high as 30 percent. I do see the surprise with balanced percentages.
@@YUCAYEQUEDo you hear yourself Yucayeque? You are sounding like a racist Evangelical Anglosaxon. And I am sure you are not that. Don't let the anglos racialize your brain. We Puerto Ricans are on average about 60 to 75 per cent Spanish. The Spaniards were not racists like the anglos who always racialize everything. They believed and still believe in Mestizaje. Even the King there was recently talking about it and how good it is. The Anglos? They are all about races, ethnic purity, racial groups and separation. The indians in the Caribbean were not killed or wiped out, they just became one with the Spaniards through mestizaje. Don't believe La Leyenda Negra always coming from the British and other anglosaxons against Spain. It's all a bunch of envious lies.
That mean if u guys have kids, ur children gonna be higher % little bit since I learnt in ancestry two parents 21% and 26% u and ur husband got might give ur kids like 35% or around 47% depend on other races combined.
@@CBBBJthat one was on Ancestry. Did the 23andMe this year and got 28%. I’m in various groups on fb, lots of people are getting results as high as 35%. Very common in people from the center of the island to have high percentages.
Historians, like scientists, always make bold statements, only to find out years later that those statements would not accurate. To say completely wiped out is simply hyperbole.
Because most historians are caught up lies themselves because they don't take in to consideration that hatred of the black and n how everything went down.
If you haven't read the first-hand accounts of what happened to the Taíno people... I don't know. I think it was a priest who documented what happened. It was extreme.
Yes and no, the majority of Tainos died of Spanish diseases that their bodies were not equipped to fight. They were turn to slave but since they were not used to hard labour also perished and you have the ones that bravely fought and also died. At the end they were erradicated, at least in my island of The Dominican Republic they were.
@@KissyRitzy Thanks for bringing it up (specially the diseases). Many of this soplapotes have no clue what the taínos history is and create a show for whatever reasons. I would respect anyone who take their time to seriously study our ancestry and bring it in a responsible and realistic way for others to learn.
I visited this location as well as a kid and have pictures there plenty of times however back then there weren’t any self proclaimed claimed indigenous people
He didn’t completely wiped us off the face of the Earth TAINO Indian still alive and well I live in New York born and raised, and I am a descendent of the TAINO and European
I really cherish all the things that these people and other Puerto Rican communities are doing to rescue the taino culture or heritage, and at the same time I wish my dominican brothers and sisters put the same passion as well. *Aplauso para los boris!!* 👏💙🤍❤
As you can see it has legal and political significance. If they are not legally recognized they do not have the automatic political power to protect their land from being taken and turned into hotels, etc
Im 24% Taino and I am so proud! I feel so conected Everytime Someone speaks about this Taino situation. I definitely get emotional, I can’t even describe it. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
After doing one of those DNA tests it shows I am 30% Spain 25% Portugal 20% native Puerto Rican (Taino) and the other 25% majority from Africa and some traces from all over Europe. On my my mom's side everyone has blond hair with blue or green eyes and white skin on my dads side they are truly natives!
appearance isn’t the primary tell of indigenous lineage . Say this experience , as like you I am also 20% Taino and my mothers sides seems they would be more Spaniard/Portuguese (lighter skin , light brown hair) and my father side the prodominantly indigenous (black hair , dark eyes , bronze skin) but as it turned out my mother came out with 19% Taino and my fathers significantly more African lineage mixed with native Taino so his quantum was slightly lower . My point here , don’t disqualify your mothers indigenous lineage through mere appearance - she might be more Taino than you !
@@syeofficial2351extactly the appearance can be tricky best to look into DNA, since any race that mixed and born can be any color skins hair eyes no matter like lighter skin dude but dna got more Indigenous blood or African you never know.
10 месяцев назад
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I learned today that 14.6% of my DNA is traced back to Taino. I’m mixed, so I know my dad’s DNA would have shown higher if he was still alive. I’m proud to be here and learn about this part of me.
In unity, love, harmony and respect with our Taino family. It's time to unify us all as the guardians of these lands belonging to mother nature and take ones again ownership of our duty on this Earth. Receive the greetings from my sacred heart, my soul and oness with all, a sister a descendant from the Mayan, Olmec Aztec lineages. Hugs 💕
I am a Puerto Rican born in America. I grew up with both cultures but my family always reminded me that I am Taino. I am PROUD to be Taino and we definitely exist! The Spanish were the ones who said they wiped everyone out but they never actually checked the mountains which were too difficult for them to navigate. That’s where our people hid for thousands of years.
Thank you so much‼️I have always loved John Leguizamo but wasn’t expecting this wonderful piece. It’s so sad I’m 50 yrs old and still trying to find my truth.
Me and my father's beautiful town of "Otoau" Utuado. I pass that place many times and the most beautiful thing is to see the mountain "El Cemí" as a background. And while you drive on 111 road towards Angeles and Lares, you actually go right in front of those mountains and it's just beautiful. I might have been born at the states which I'm grateful, but genetically I am puertorican and that Taino blood runs through my veins, especially from my mother's side. My abuela is a glimpse of the past ❤. Her features are 100% Taina, just beautiful ❤.
My parents and grandparents were from Guacio San Sebastian. My maternal grandfather told me a few times that his great, great etc. grandfather was Taíno and that he rebelled against the Spaniards. He had to flee way up into the mountains and they used dogs to pursue and search for him. I'm not sure how that ended but my dear grandpa who we always called ' Pito ' looked a lot like a Taíno. Two of his ten children look a lot like Taínos as well but my mom, his daughter, looks completely European; oh well, you know how we are. 😅
10 месяцев назад
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Taino males were enslaved by the Spanish settlers after 1508, and their life expectancy as slaves, was about 7 years, according to Ricardo Alegría. Even the Catholic Church, had about 50 slaves to each parish. First Taino upraising occurred in 1510 and most settlers on the Western part of the Island were killed. Ponce de Leon returned with a vengeance and neutralized the male population in Guainia. Many ran to the mountains to avoid the white devils, while others went south, today Venezuela.
i know right.....these ladies look like typical spaniards and southern Europeans.....so weird they claim to be real Tainos....real Natives Americans of north and south America look Asians from Siberia...example look up "Ket people, siberia" who have the same Ydna Q as Tainos and other natives of america.
Im a Puertorican woman from new york. The tiano indian bloodline is very much alive. As unfortunate it can be the government is suppressive. Keep the general public aware of what is going on. God bless the island of puertorico.
I have been looking at comments from so many different types of cultures on different identity videos. This is what i know. 1. Those who claim their indigenous identity, connect with the tribes of PR ( and there are tribes) and belong to that nation are infact Indigenous 2. People in the comments no matter if its irish identity , Native Identity , African so on always differ in oppinion. DONT LET THAT DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS> IF YOUR INDIGENOUS ANCESTORS CALL YOU GO FIND THE ELDERS AND THE COMMUNITY!
🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹im Taino....my mom hair her eyes was different . Taino lived in all the Caribbean, they made boat so they traveled to different islands that's why we love the ocean..... Haiti -Cuba Puerto Rico - and the rest of the Caribbean are Taino
Nada el taino era claro y el más oscuro es el que tiene mezcla en pr de Colombia o rd pero el taino no era color oscuro hay fotos españolas de ellos míralas y veras eran blancos hay españoles en costas o islas que eran más morenos que el taino y taino ya no queda mira los apellidos del puerto riqueño es total español si un indio que su padre o madre no lo es ya tiene 50 y 50 hay un estudio en pr que dice un 10 lleva algo de taino y un de pura sangre española
That small pow wow at the end is a reflection of ingenious modern reality. A Tragedy! Western industrial civilization still feeds and breathes off the annihilation.
He didn’t completely wiped us off the face of the Earth TAINO Indian still alive and well I live in New York born and raised, and I am a descendent of the TAINO and European the Puerto Rican government is no different than the European government in the United States. They don’t recognize no native tribes and certainly not ours, but we’re alive and well.
El video es más opinión que hechos. Todos los lugares como centros ceremoniales y bateyes tuvieron que ser rescatados y excavados y declarados lugares arqueológicos. El planteamiento de pertenencia no aplica aquí pues implicaría que cualquiera puede reclamar cualquier lugar arqueológico.
We were conquered and we had to pretend that 'we no longer exist' in order to survive. We were assimilated to a certain point that the real lyrics of the PUR National Anthem had to be purged because it sounded too 'revolutionary'. And still today, it is sung.
💯Alive ✨ Me My Family Taino Remnants from PR Guánica Native Dad from Dorado Mom from Yauco Taino (Dad) Italian Spaniard (Mom) Indigenous Folks are waking up …but the problem is that the indigenous people still worship demi-gods and spirits ..idolatry And ..yes ..we should be recognized …we are indigenous part of the Indian tribes that were divided …we are also one under the umbrella/Indian Tribe I pray for the continued awakening of true identity ✨acknowledgment and compensation ✨and 💯rights and land retention 🙏🏼
They like it or not we are ,we will and we always will be TAINOS no matter we have mix blood is what our hearts fell we are and as a Puertorican i am a Proud TAINO 🇵🇷🫳🎤
My mom is from Puerto Rico, and she says the Tainos people are still here and not all extinct, and through her mother's lineage, she has Taino DNA and her father has Spanish from Spain. Her uncle, she remembered, looked very much Taino. It's in our blood. And me I am proud of my Taino and Spanish ancestry from my mother side and through my father Maya and Garifuna.
Hello , I just did my DNA and found that I'm 25% indigenous Puerto Rican or Taino 7 % Indigenous Dominican, I asked my mom and grandma about this and the only way I could be at 25% or any percentage is if my mom is at least 50 to 70 and my grandmother is 80 to 100%. now I'm not a geneticist but that's the only way I could have gotten the percentage of Indigenous in my blood I may be wrong don't quote me please. Well I'm SO HAPPY to know this that now I say I'm Native. I even asked about the stories from both my parents about the family and how my ancestors kept going and how they lived, there is a lot to tell. I love the stories and love how my culture still lives on in me and the rest of the Island of Puerto Rico, there are probably a whole lot of Indigenous Natives that don't even know there Native, but anyway I just wanted to tell my story and be open about it, I think that as a veteran and a person that holds traditions scared to the heart both military and at home that we all should look to our past and put together that picture that makes us who we are. Sometimes its the only thing that can makes whole as a person, people or a Nation. TY.
Y también tiene nombre y apellidos taino si muy tantísimo será ahora que el taino desciende del español porque el nombre e español y los apellidos aún más deberían los tainos para purificar dejar de mezclarse con hispanas de pura cepa por guapas pero como dicen en pr donde se pone una blanquita ee
The odd thing is that in the mainland USA people with less Native American DNA ,basically white or black are recognized as Native American tribes .Being that 60% of Puerto Rico has Taino ancestry. They would have to acknowledge many people as Native Americans
I'm full native american from Arizona. I don't get how the American government can recognize white and black people with 1 or 2% of native ancestry as official tribes. The Native American population in the United States is 9 million and only 3 million of them are full bloods.
Native American tribes recognize them through history and historical records you cant say that for PR since some have a bit of racial animosity of being of part african origin its discounted via glorification of taino
I'm not even a minute into this video & I want to make a comment. BTW: a great subject for a video (as even before I knew I had AmerIndian ancestry I was quite interested in AmerIndian Peoples). 😎👍 Had I seen that opening classroom shot where you tell of the extinction of the Taino up to as far as last month, I would have simply taken your word for it. Until this month I didn't even know about the Taino, per se (now I might have run across it several decades ago in a Native American Studies course at CSULB & then quickly forgotten as the course didn't go into any great depth on any tribe, but was rather a broad, cross-country sweep across American Indian history & culture where the "extinct" peoples might have gotten a sentence or three in the textbook); however, just this month I received an Advanced Ancestry Analysis report from CRI Genetics with which I had my DNA tested & to my surprise* it listed Puerto Rican: Taino Genotype (perhaps based upon the DNA extracted tooth from some skeletal remains found at a dig in Puerto Rico not so many years ago); so, whether or not a remnant of the tribe remained intact upon Puerto Rico, Taino "blood" (or DNA) goes on in those currently living today. * = I had no idea of any connection to Puerto Rico. My dad was adopted by a White couple of European decent & raised as White. He went on to marry a gal who looked quite White & only knew of White ancestry, some of it fairly-well documented; so, my older sister & I, being their children, were raised as White. I told my mom that I thought dad looked a bit Asian & perhaps Native American, but she argued he looked German. Turns out he was all that & likely more (CRI Genetics is unable to tell from which parent any particular inherited ethnic marker in one's DNA came from; so, while I know what I've inherited, I can't really say with absolute accuracy what came from any particular parent - esp because there's some overlap of shared ethnicities as well).
That was my one issue with this special. I went to ASU we did the mitochondrial dna research project that re- discovered the Taino dna in Puerto Rican populations. Over 60% of Puerto Ricans have Taino dna, myself included. I’m only half Puerto Rican and I’m 20% Taino. The US doesn’t want to acknowledge Tainos because the island is a tourist draw and if they acknowledge Tainos they’d have to treat the indigenous land like they do other indigenous tribes and the Military and Corporate Colonizers couldn’t do what they want to do on it.
They dont want to acknowledge taino because there are no tribes or lineages traced back to the indigenous people. Dna alone doesn not dictate being indigenous. It’s similar to claiming being part of an african tribe based on dna alone.
@ It’s not the same as being associated with or having lineage with some African tribe. My abuelos are still alive In Puerto Rico, Indigenous traditions are still observed by those who are in fact indigenous and oral history remains. The Tainos were made extinct ON PAPER as there were under 300 pure indigenous left when Africans were brought to the island. That’s the struggle we face. The Indigenous of Puerto Rico have always existed . Also there is no pure 100% anything even those with high concentrations of indigenous blood are not “pure” due largely to colonization. My Alma mater conducted the Mitochondrial dna project in Puerto Rico that not only examined DNA but birth records of slaves from the Catholic Church, they examined purchase records and ship manifests. These types of studies are in depth and published.
As a child of Puerto Rican parents... We learned from them how Puerto Ricans are of three Culturas... Taino, African and Spaniard... We always called ourselves as the "Rainbow People" Unfortunately, the Tainos of the1600's were almost wiped out by Columbus and other Spainard's travelers of the 1600's and beyond... Throughout all of the Caribbeans....
Taino is on the verge of extinction. The pride in everyone claiming to be “full blood” Puerto Rican but in the same breath say Puerto Rican/ Boricua isn’t a race is the exact reason why on average everyone is 20% indigenous or less.
Orgullosa de mi herencia taína que la tenemos por mis Abuelos! 💖🙏🏼
10 месяцев назад
Hola. Te puede hacer una pregunta. Hay una mujer en Tiktok que dice que es Taíno y comenzó a decir que para ella es un insulto los disfraces de indígenas porque es su cultura. ¿Te sientes ofendida cuando las personas blancas usan difraz de indígena?
@ De verdad, todo depende en el contexto en se expresa el sentir. Reconociendo la confusión y desinformación, si el deseo es apoyar y mostrar admiración y respeto, pués no. Un gran regalo y consejos sabios de nuestros antepasados indígenas nos enseña a Amari y respetar toda la creación y cómo todos estamos conectados. Es también nuestro deber compartir el conocimiento, amor y sabiduría para crear lazos de Paz. Ahó 🙏🦋
In the Dominican Republic all our Tainos were erradicated, I don't think anyone claims to be Taino in our island. Actually when we were thought history natives of Puerto Rico were called differently and aggressive towards our Tainos. It's very interesting to hear their side of the story and how they claim to still be Tainos.
@Jay P in my 4 decades, I've never read, seen, anything that backs you up. Keep in mind i went to school in the DR . There was a study made by the government, and the people that had the most Taino DNA, had a mere 2% as the most common was a 1%. Again in school we're taught the Tainos we're eradicated, you go to Chavón Museum which houses the biggest collection of artifacts and you'll be told the same.
They not Taino all what's to be in television that's all. Check blood. They what's free land nothing else. And I and Puerto Rican 51 percent of blood is Taino wish they don't have
The Tainos were not wiped out. There's a reason why many of us Puerto Ricans are tri-racial. Spanish/ African/ and Taino blood flows through our veins. I did an ancestry test via 23andMe and I have 15.2% Indigenous (Taino) ancestry. I am very proud to represent not only my Taino heritage but also my Spanish and my African heritage because at the end of the day I wouldn't be here otherwise.
A geneticist already proved that Puertoricans have more than 15% of Indigenous DNA more so than any other Caribbean land. It was compared to a centuries year old Taino woman's bone. However, the CENSUS review to acknowledge it. Eraser, genocide, you name it, we've faced it.
I’m quite the mix being from a Swede and Puerto Rican. I did ancestry dna recently and was surprised to see how much African, Senegal, Congo, Bantu tribes etc I had as well. The most interesting was the Taino I had (Viking on the Swede side was pretty interesting too not gonna lie lol) it was wild to see that they were brought to “extinction” with only 200 survivors. I searched RUclips to see if there was any news about Taino people and it’s interesting to see others with trace amounts in their dna. It’s wild to think we came from the last 200 people that were natives of the island after comumbus arrived. I saw one of the quotes he wrote in a journal about the Taino as well. While most natives went to war with other tribes etc, the Taino were peaceful…. Too peaceful. He went on to say how well built they were and how easily they could be taken advantage of. Some messed up stuff. But it’s also crazy our ancestors were more than likely friends 400 years ago!
@@TheReaper1 Same here! I had 15% indigenous dna, and about 14% from different countries in the African continent. Well look at it this way, for decades the CENSUS has been apart of that erasure.
For example: labeling us as spaniards during the world war, and also recategorizing us as white or black when we would identify as indigenous in the census. I'm talking about early 1900's. We were never wiped out! Thanks for sharing :) Cristopher Columbus in his journal said we were beautiful, generous groups of people...he also said we would be great slaves.
You have to read the stories written by the oppressed not the oppressors. The story gets twisted to fit their narratives at the time. We are resilient people and we are still here, it shows in our DNA. Now it's time that the Census stops denying it. Read "War against all puertoricans, a peoples history of the United States, and a personal favorite of mine "All the Indians died off: and 20 other myths about native Americans by Roxanne Dunbar". I have a bunch of recommendations if you need.
@@TheReaper1 and Still today our American history claims that Christopher Columbus discovered America when we all clearly and transparently know no he did not.
This is so dumb, as a Puerto Ricsn i don't go around telling people that i am Taino. We no longer have Native tribes on the island. Just because i have a small percentage of indigenous blood, that does not give me the right to say that i am full blooded Native American. Now you have these folks claiming indigenous rights for a tribe that no longer exist.
I hope all the Native Americans of Peurto Rico,and other First Nation people of the world gets what they all want . I want those thing also for you all .🎉🇵🇷
They wouldn't be native Americans. They'd be native Puerto Ricans. There are no pure blood Taíno Indians alive today. They would've looked much different than the Puerto Ricans claiming trible heritage. They don't want to do the DNA tests because they know that they're mostly Spaniard white, with a mix of African and possibly some Asian.
There are no indigenous people left in PR. No one has proven to be more than 18% indigenous dna in PR
Numerous federally recognized tribes in the US have members with less % than most Puerto Rican yet are full citizens in their tribal nation. The desicion of who is Indian is really about power and who gets to wield it. In some places just one drop makes you Black no matter how you present, yet to be indigenous more than half is demanded. While the average Taino is 15% there are many who range in the 20 to 30%.and even higher has been found in a minority of cases. The point is that there is a double standard at play and that shows the racist element. The 62% of indigenous marker is totally through the maternal side and women carry and pass down the culture and life ways. Having African ancestry certainly does not lessen indigenous identities, this argument was used to erase the indigenous peoples east of the Mississippi especially in Virginia, and the Carolinas. The Lumbee tribe is a prime example of this type of abuse similar to what Taino are dealing with today.
Yes, it's ridiculous 🙄; I have ancestry amongst the Mid-Atlantic tribes (Saponi, Nansemond, Lumbee amongst them) that are not recognized outside of the region.
I'm 11 percent and my mother is in the 20s
If Elizabeth Warren can claim Indigenous right so can I. That fake b****
B as in Blond. lol😅
No stop spreading false information
It is so they can steal land and resources. Some complete stranger called my home a couple of weeks ago to try to buy mine (almost four acres of forest) for practically nothing. As if I don’t know the value of a dollar! Thieves who want control.
Supporting Taino from 🇭🇹! We with you
We with you too. A lot of PR are asleep and they don't understand how important HT is for us. Y'all just need to use your Levite powers against the enemy. Not our brothers and sisters!
@@opparino4708levite? u gotta be confused
@@sgm4545 the real tianos are extinct
@@Zapp760 are you out of your mind!!!
@@Zapp760Who told you that?
Grown up I hearing stories, but as someone who grew up in Puerto Rico, we where told that it was impossible. We are very spiritual people and when I saw my indigenous blood come out in the DNA test I got so emotional. I don't think it's necessary to have a DNA test to claim you Taino identity, but it was truly beautiful for me to see.
@@llllii1768 dunno what that means
@@raulm.danielm.4814 que los indios tainos did not built anything like mayans or the machi pichi indians
@@llllii1768 indigenous * not Indian* Indian is what they called us when they murdered over 300,000 of us
The Tainos greatest achievement was sedentary agriculture. Lots of tribes in the Americas never achieved farming. The Taino are proud.
@@llllii1768 comments like yours as what causes division amongst tribes Mayans were cousins and it’s a fact that a lot of taínos did intermingle with Mayans
My great grandmothers mother was pure Taino . Only the female lineage survived but Taino ancestry is absolutely existent and alive . When I drew a DNA sample turned out my quantum was 1/5 Taino (exactly 20%) and couldn’t be more proud to be ! 🇵🇷
Exactly! When people try to tell me that the Taino women went with the Spaniard men “willingly”, I remind them of this fact. If it were “willing”, why would they feel the need to exterminate all the males from the island? There was nothing voluntary about this and our DNA proves it.
WE WUZ TAINOS N SHI MAYN
This does explain alot on why my mother looks so much like a native
apparently, I'm also a descendant
@@Wildflower687 "Willingly" what Puerto Rican women, in the U.S., are doing is prefering to be with Black/Afro-American men.
It has been that way for a long time. Unless a Puerto Rican man is a pro-athlete or entertainer he has a slim chance to be with a Puerto Rican woman.
In Puerto Rico the Dominican men, who are primarily the ones who arrive on yolas to the island (and who are also black! ) have a high success rate at finding a woman in Puerto Rico. What good would all this "I'am 10%, 12%, 15% taino" business mean in 100 years from now?
My great grandmother was Taína. I was raised by her and she shared many stories and the language with me. I tested my dna and I am 33% indigenous Puerto Rican (45% Colombian indigenous) & 41% identical alleles to Atunwa Inaru. We are still here 🦜
Yes we are. I’m 28% went up from 21% so likely gonna rise. ✊🏼🇵🇷
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
how can i test my dna or where can i go?
I tested 20% Taino❤love it
22% here my cousin 36% and other 40%, I also seen someone commented got 45% DNA tested and yet Billion Ricans out there who haven't taken DNA test might have 50% who knows 🤷
This was amazing! I got chills. ❤
I’m coming back here after discovering nearly 20% of my DNA is traced back to the Taino People. My desire to learn comes from my desire to keep my people alive.
Bro, you look wyte and talk like a wyte dude. So, I don't believe you.
My Taino DNA is 18% , def interesting would love to visit there
I'm Jewish, Italian and Greek from my father side. Puerto Rican-Taino, White-Cuban mixed from my mother side. My Taino DNA is 20% as well, so it definitely from my mother side of the family. I am proud of my Taino bloodline heritage run through my vein. 😊👍
DNA can't trace you to a particular tribe. Also some Carib people and possibly others were brought to the island
@forcegeek6705 - Sorry, not sorry. You look like Whyte boi to me. Please stop lying to yourself...🙃
I read the whole story of the Puerto Rican somewhere. The Puerto Ricans got their respect because we fought and won many times… proud to be a Puerto Rican
I am half Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 and according to two different DNA tests, I am only 3 generations from a full blooded taino ancestor. I keep feeling a call within me to learn my heritage, learn my culture. I grew up with some of the PR culture but I feel drawn to the taino side as well. I hope to learn it and teach it to my children!
We are still here taino and proud
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@why are you commenting the same thing under every single comment
Ur not 100%
Fake image with no name, stop with same question crap, sorry.
People in Europe can do as their please, even Americans. What is your point!
My grandmother, who lived high in the mountains of Jamaica and passed away in 1989, was a Taino they called her 'Sister Tain'i, and she looked just like the two women in this presentation!❤😮
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Thank you John for a facinating series!
I study archaeology and work in cultural heritage with Indigenous people here in Australia. I am also half Puerto Rican and by extension have Taino blood as many Puerto Ricans do. The gatekeeping/exclusivity of DNA testing and physical traits is a huge issue for Indigenous descendants around the world and is a complicated issue. I fully agree with the mujer that it is a double edged sword. I do not go around telling people I am Indigenous Puerto Rican but I would love to adopt aspects of my ancestors culture into my life so they are not forgotten. I think the movement to implement Taino culture and tradition back into the Puerto Rico is a wonderful idea.
It probably also doesn't help there is self-hating Puerto Ricans that want to seem more like Spanish people despite what Spanish Colonizers has done to 🇵🇷.
I agree it’s nice but it’s historically inaccurate so basically lying. It would be great to say “we are reconstructing practices based on what we know about out ancestors” but not to claim an unbroken lineage which is just not true.
I’m 28% Puerto Rican Indigenous! And proud!
Solidarity with the Taino people. You don’t need anyone else to recognise your identity for it to be real but it would be good if the Anglo Americans and the Latinx would be confident and generous enough to see that mutual respect benefits all. Love and best wishes from anglophone Ireland, sadly I can’t speak my native tongue fluently. A legacy of colonialism and the attempt to sublimate our culture and identity into theirs. ✊🏼
😂this people are no taíno are a comunist group created to advance the independent for Puerto Rico. This people is a fake taino
Don't call us latinx. Idk how many times I have to tell people how offensive this is to us LATINOS and how offensive it is to the spaniah language. Stop the woke crap bud.
Latinx is a slur
Such a beautiful ceremony. I'm boricua and i honestly say i would love to join in that ritual because I want to feel closer to my ancestors and closer to my roots. May God bless and be on the side of of them all in their fight for justice and rights over the taino land.
Those folks are doing brujería. 😮
@@christominded4726 according to who??
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@ don't see how your question is relevant to my post or the video. But what's your point?
late answer but no it doesnt. i’m taíno and our past culture is dead and its good that people want to spread it.
This was an amazing episode!
I fight this ignorance constantly. Mi abuelita taught me who I was and where we are from. Even the DNA test even says over 20% Taino but people will still look at me and tell me I don't exist ...it makes me weep
I mean full indigenous are almost gone.
I mean…what’s the other 80% do you ever think about setting your ego to the side and actually respecting the real Tianos that have departed? why is it important to claim a murdered group of people and displace their image?
@@Zapp760wow bro. You need a heart check.
@@Follower_of_Yahusha yall need a reality check.
@@Zapp760No u need a fact check n learn compassion n understanding.
The original indigenous communities are not just still here.. they are our teachers.. they will always be here. They are.. the land.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
My family is from Puerto Rico, specifically Ponce area and I have indigenous ancestry as well Spanish, Portuguese and west African. Its important to reserved the history, stories, and culture of the Taino people. For many of us Puerto Ricans all we know and told is history and names of those who colonized the island. We don't know about the stories of natives as well the various African enslaved people and their orginal language and culture.What little we do know, is woven into Puerto Rican culture but it diluted. I very much support those Tainos who live today who haven't forgotten and are fighting to keep it alive.
My grandma also born from Guaraguao (red tailed hawk), Ponce! My DNA mixed with 26% portguese, 22% spaniard and 21% Taino rest Denmark Irish African etc from 8% to below. 👍🏼
Same goes to palestine land right now.. the original people fight for their land and never left
Most governments will find a way to take your land, if P.R. Becomes a State then the government can take the land when the poor can’t pay property taxes, or when someone dies inheritance tax will make the family sell their land if they can’t pay.
The goverment usa already took the land they own it americans can move in and buy up beach properties
@@llllii1768 seen a video where they were saying the island is covered with airbnbs now
Like it happened with Hawaii, almost no one who was a Hawaiian born in Hawaii has a house, they were displaced by the rich.
@@llllii1768but the people don’t have to sell their lands. It’s still a choice.
@@Bigrod8673 sadly they have to where will they live
My great grandfather is Taíno and still alive 104.
Im From D.R my great grandfather is 101 he look spaniard has full set of white hair 😂😂 but ik he got some taino in him aswell
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@ maybe years ago , not so much now. Reading the Bible we are scared amongst all nations. Soul is key not flesh.
Same lol white hair @@Ramfisdt.presidentePED2024
This is an unpopular opinion:
As Boricuas, we have a large triad of cultures with some nuances interspersed throughout. It is largely Taino, African, and Spanish. We are at a pivotal point in history; we can decide to either continue placing prominence upon our Spanish ancestry and continue the status quo. Haven’t we done that enough? We speak Spanish. In some parts of the island we even want to SEEM Spanish. I say it’s time we begin prioritizing our Taino and African ancestry. Being that our Taino history is disjointed and hard to piece together at times (due to the injustices we’ve suffered), it seems like we have to attempt to keep our history, culture, and traditions alive. However, we also have to bring this into the future. We have to be the ones that decide what being Taino means to us NOW. The closest I can think of is Afro-Taino Futurism. It begs the question: what does it mean to be descendants of Africans and Tainos in 2023? What do we do with this?
I think it’s important to love both of these cultures because they both suffered in unimaginable ways, and could use the front seat. Spanish has been in the forefront for far too long. Time to start teaching these languages in schools. And this blood quantum stuff is insane. If anything the fact that all of us have even 1% of indigenous blood is a testament to our ancestors.
They are still, and will always be with us.
A portion of taínos have negligible African ancestry so one cannot paint a brush but I understand for many it makes sense being the categories are typically close in percentile results resulting in a more phenotypically tri racial result.
@@YUCAYEQUE i agree 100%. And I mean that specifically for people like myself that have a surprisingly balanced mix of the 3, (in my case slightly more Spanish, slightly more African, and the smaller percentage of the 3, Indigenous) it becomes more of a philosophical idea similar to Afro futurism. For the trigueños out there we have to decide for ourselves how we express that culture.
@@newenglandlofi4195 It isn’t a surprising result with Ricans that range from mid teens African to even as high as 30 percent. I do see the surprise with balanced percentages.
@@YUCAYEQUEDo you hear yourself Yucayeque? You are sounding like a racist Evangelical Anglosaxon. And I am sure you are not that. Don't let the anglos racialize your brain. We Puerto Ricans are on average about 60 to 75 per cent Spanish. The Spaniards were not racists like the anglos who always racialize everything. They believed and still believe in Mestizaje. Even the King there was recently talking about it and how good it is. The Anglos? They are all about races, ethnic purity, racial groups and separation. The indians in the Caribbean were not killed or wiped out, they just became one with the Spaniards through mestizaje. Don't believe La Leyenda Negra always coming from the British and other anglosaxons against Spain. It's all a bunch of envious lies.
Thousands of french, irish, corscian and italians etc settled into puerto rico after the 1810s
This is why it's important to do your research first before making assumptions
Daka Taino, let our voices be heard!
I got tested and found I have 21% indigenous Puerto Rico (Boriken) and my husband is 26% and we are very proud of it ❤❤❤❤
@indiojazzikr and I have a friend who’s very into ancestry and she told me she knows people who got 30%
@@ilimariPuerto Rico? No. Borikén? Yes.
That mean if u guys have kids, ur children gonna be higher % little bit since I learnt in ancestry two parents 21% and 26% u and ur husband got might give ur kids like 35% or around 47% depend on other races combined.
Where did you get your dna test done ??
@@CBBBJthat one was on Ancestry. Did the 23andMe this year and got 28%. I’m in various groups on fb, lots of people are getting results as high as 35%. Very common in people from the center of the island to have high percentages.
Historians, like scientists, always make bold statements, only to find out years later that those statements would not accurate. To say completely wiped out is simply hyperbole.
Because most historians are caught up lies themselves because they don't take in to consideration that hatred of the black and n how everything went down.
If you haven't read the first-hand accounts of what happened to the Taíno people... I don't know. I think it was a priest who documented what happened. It was extreme.
Yes and no, the majority of Tainos died of Spanish diseases that their bodies were not equipped to fight. They were turn to slave but since they were not used to hard labour also perished and you have the ones that bravely fought and also died. At the end they were erradicated, at least in my island of The Dominican Republic they were.
Y trajeron africanos q eran mas fuerte q resistían es por eso q el por ciento q mas se tiene es de africanos y españoles
@@KissyRitzy Thanks for bringing it up (specially the diseases). Many of this soplapotes have no clue what the taínos history is and create a show for whatever reasons. I would respect anyone who take their time to seriously study our ancestry and bring it in a responsible and realistic way for others to learn.
I’m Taino n still here on Earth n I have kids for the next generation to come 💪🏽🇵🇷🤙🏽
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
You mean nothing on from the waist up? No. 😇
I visited this location and it was breathtaking. Totally recommend.
God bless you
I visited this location as well as a kid and have pictures there plenty of times however back then there weren’t any self proclaimed claimed indigenous people
@ or perhaps they always existed but were silenced. The important thing is we have returned and our ancestors live within us! 🙏🏽
He didn’t completely wiped us off the face of the Earth TAINO Indian still alive and well I live in New York born and raised, and I am a descendent of the TAINO and European
I really cherish all the things that these people and other Puerto Rican communities are doing to rescue the taino culture or heritage, and at the same time I wish my dominican brothers and sisters put the same passion as well. *Aplauso para los boris!!* 👏💙🤍❤
I have 21% Taino (DNA tested )
Why is it so important for other people to label who we are? Really, why?
As you can see it has legal and political significance. If they are not legally recognized they do not have the automatic political power to protect their land from being taken and turned into hotels, etc
@@drebugsita their land?? what land? Their private land? Are they not cititzens? Oh wait PuertoRicans are not citizens in their land? WOW
@@drebugsita You have a totally "colonized" mind, congrats
No colonization, no Puerto Rico.
Wow that brought tears to my eyes.~~~
Im 24% Taino and I am so proud! I feel so conected Everytime Someone speaks about this Taino situation. I definitely get emotional, I can’t even describe it. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ate you proud of your Spanish heritage? That is the most important DNA on the island. We are a Hispanic island.
This is amazing we need to do all is possible for our culture.
Greetings from cusco. Inca
Estupendo trabajo 😊 Felicidades Leguizamo🎉
We are a people and proud.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
After doing one of those DNA tests it shows I am 30% Spain 25% Portugal 20% native Puerto Rican (Taino) and the other 25% majority from Africa and some traces from all over Europe. On my my mom's side everyone has blond hair with blue or green eyes and white skin on my dads side they are truly natives!
appearance isn’t the primary tell of indigenous lineage . Say this experience , as like you I am also 20% Taino and my mothers sides seems they would be more Spaniard/Portuguese (lighter skin , light brown hair) and my father side the prodominantly indigenous (black hair , dark eyes , bronze skin) but as it turned out my mother came out with 19% Taino and my fathers significantly more African lineage mixed with native Taino so his quantum was slightly lower . My point here , don’t disqualify your mothers indigenous lineage through mere appearance - she might be more Taino than you !
@@syeofficial2351extactly the appearance can be tricky best to look into DNA, since any race that mixed and born can be any color skins hair eyes no matter like lighter skin dude but dna got more Indigenous blood or African you never know.
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@AntonellaBriceno I don't let that bother me. People are always going to do what they want, and no one can control them.
I learned today that 14.6% of my DNA is traced back to Taino. I’m mixed, so I know my dad’s DNA would have shown higher if he was still alive. I’m proud to be here and learn about this part of me.
My mom is Taino Indian too her grandma lived too 114 years old
Just found out I am 30% Indigenous Puerto Rican. This is pretty fascinating. Thank you for the video!
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I am 34% indigenous PR and 26% Spanish, and I thought all this time it was the opposite.
You say you are 30% indigenous Puerto Rican, does that mean Taino or maybe another group of ethnic Americans?
@@sunriseatabeach3537Hell if I know. It’s just what my Ancestry DNA results said.
I don’t care what people do or how they dress.
In unity, love, harmony and respect with our Taino family. It's time to unify us all as the guardians of these lands belonging to mother nature and take ones again ownership of our duty on this Earth. Receive the greetings from my sacred heart, my soul and oness with all, a sister a descendant from the Mayan, Olmec Aztec lineages. Hugs 💕
I am a Puerto Rican born in America. I grew up with both cultures but my family always reminded me that I am Taino. I am PROUD to be Taino and we definitely exist! The Spanish were the ones who said they wiped everyone out but they never actually checked the mountains which were too difficult for them to navigate. That’s where our people hid for thousands of years.
Thank you so much‼️I have always loved John Leguizamo but wasn’t expecting this wonderful piece. It’s so sad I’m 50 yrs old and still trying to find my truth.
Saludos a los Taínos, desde los otros nativos, los Incas ♥️🙏🏾
Me and my father's beautiful town of "Otoau" Utuado. I pass that place many times and the most beautiful thing is to see the mountain "El Cemí" as a background. And while you drive on 111 road towards Angeles and Lares, you actually go right in front of those mountains and it's just beautiful.
I might have been born at the states which I'm grateful, but genetically I am puertorican and that Taino blood runs through my veins, especially from my mother's side. My abuela is a glimpse of the past ❤. Her features are 100% Taina, just beautiful ❤.
I met John at a book club in Berkeley he is such a great man bro. And one of my favorite actors.
My parents and grandparents were from Guacio San Sebastian. My maternal grandfather told me a few times that his great, great etc. grandfather was Taíno and that he rebelled against the Spaniards. He had to flee way up into the mountains and they used dogs to pursue and search for him. I'm not sure how that ended but my dear grandpa who we always called ' Pito ' looked a lot like a Taíno. Two of his ten children look a lot like Taínos as well but my mom, his daughter, looks completely European; oh well, you know how we are. 😅
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Taino males were enslaved by the Spanish settlers after 1508, and their life expectancy as slaves, was about 7 years, according to Ricardo Alegría. Even the Catholic Church, had about 50 slaves to each parish. First Taino upraising occurred in 1510 and most settlers on the Western part of the Island were killed. Ponce de Leon returned with a vengeance and neutralized the male population in Guainia.
Many ran to the mountains to avoid the white devils, while others went south, today Venezuela.
Love this series with John,!
as a born and raised Puerto Rican NOPE they are not full Taino so no. we all have Taino blood but a not full taino.
i know right.....these ladies look like typical spaniards and southern Europeans.....so weird they claim to be real Tainos....real Natives Americans of north and south America look Asians from Siberia...example look up "Ket people, siberia" who have the same Ydna Q as Tainos and other natives of america.
I agree i was born in PR there’s no exist 100% full blood Taino.
Only a DNA test will prove or disprove whether anyone has Taino in them.
May this culture flourish and thrive once more ❤
Im a Puertorican woman from new york. The tiano indian bloodline is very much alive. As unfortunate it can be the government is suppressive. Keep the general public aware of what is going on. God bless the island of puertorico.
Puerto Rico? No. Borikén? Yes.
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Bloodline yes. Taino people no. T
I was born in San Sebastián and raised in the states and this was amazing to learn about our history
Indigenous Taino From Cuba 🇨🇺 we dont confine to colonial view points and we don’t do blood percentage! We are still here!
And I know one here in the U.S. Very rare here. From Holguín.
I have been looking at comments from so many different types of cultures on different identity videos. This is what i know.
1. Those who claim their indigenous identity, connect with the tribes of PR ( and there are tribes) and belong to that nation are infact Indigenous
2. People in the comments no matter if its irish identity , Native Identity , African so on always differ in oppinion.
DONT LET THAT DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS> IF YOUR INDIGENOUS ANCESTORS CALL YOU GO FIND THE ELDERS AND THE COMMUNITY!
I remember finding out that Assyrians still existed.
😂 same. I was shocked given how ancient they are. Their language is also intact
A lot of Taínos in PR were forced to pick "something else" on the census to make it look like they were truly "eradicated".
A paper genocide.
🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹im Taino....my mom hair her eyes was different . Taino lived in all the Caribbean, they made boat so they traveled to different islands that's why we love the ocean..... Haiti -Cuba Puerto Rico - and the rest of the Caribbean are Taino
Support taino from 🇩🇴
Gracia mi hermano!!
Nada el taino era claro y el más oscuro es el que tiene mezcla en pr de Colombia o rd pero el taino no era color oscuro hay fotos españolas de ellos míralas y veras eran blancos hay españoles en costas o islas que eran más morenos que el taino y taino ya no queda mira los apellidos del puerto riqueño es total español si un indio que su padre o madre no lo es ya tiene 50 y 50 hay un estudio en pr que dice un 10 lleva algo de taino y un de pura sangre española
That small pow wow at the end is a reflection of ingenious modern reality. A Tragedy!
Western industrial civilization still feeds and breathes off the annihilation.
Sorry, we r very much alive... We r everywhere.. I'm in NYC with my family...
He didn’t completely wiped us off the face of the Earth TAINO Indian still alive and well I live in New York born and raised, and I am a descendent of the TAINO and European the Puerto Rican government is no different than the European government in the United States. They don’t recognize no native tribes and certainly not ours, but we’re alive and well.
El video es más opinión que hechos. Todos los lugares como centros ceremoniales y bateyes tuvieron que ser rescatados y excavados y declarados lugares arqueológicos. El planteamiento de pertenencia no aplica aquí pues implicaría que cualquiera puede reclamar cualquier lugar arqueológico.
Es propaganda.
Arawak Boricuas have always been in our blood as Puerto Ricans.
We were conquered and we had to pretend that 'we no longer exist' in order to survive. We were assimilated to a certain point that the real lyrics of the PUR National Anthem had to be purged because it sounded too 'revolutionary'. And still today, it is sung.
What percent does the government want? How much is enough?
💯Alive ✨
Me My Family Taino Remnants from PR Guánica Native Dad from Dorado Mom from Yauco
Taino (Dad) Italian Spaniard (Mom)
Indigenous Folks are waking up …but the problem is that the indigenous people still worship demi-gods and spirits ..idolatry
And ..yes ..we should be recognized …we are indigenous part of the Indian tribes that were divided …we are also one under the umbrella/Indian Tribe
I pray for the continued awakening of true identity ✨acknowledgment and compensation ✨and 💯rights and land retention 🙏🏼
They like it or not we are ,we will and we always will be TAINOS no matter we have mix blood is what our hearts fell we are and as a Puertorican i am a Proud TAINO 🇵🇷🫳🎤
My mom is from Puerto Rico, and she says the Tainos people are still here and not all extinct, and through her mother's lineage, she has Taino DNA and her father has Spanish from Spain. Her uncle, she remembered, looked very much Taino. It's in our blood. And me I am proud of my Taino and Spanish ancestry from my mother side and through my father Maya and Garifuna.
I’m a Jamaican Taino my great great great grandfather was a maroon and he mixed with a Taino woman.🇯🇲🇯🇲
I been there as a kid that’s crazy I’m looking at the photos now 🇵🇷
Hello , I just did my DNA and found that I'm 25% indigenous Puerto Rican or Taino 7 % Indigenous Dominican, I asked my mom and grandma about this and the only way I could be at 25% or any percentage is if my mom is at least 50 to 70 and my grandmother is 80 to 100%. now I'm not a geneticist but that's the only way I could have gotten the percentage of Indigenous in my blood I may be wrong don't quote me please. Well I'm SO HAPPY to know this that now I say I'm Native. I even asked about the stories from both my parents about the family and how my ancestors kept going and how they lived, there is a lot to tell. I love the stories and love how my culture still lives on in me and the rest of the Island of Puerto Rico, there are probably a whole lot of Indigenous Natives that don't even know there Native, but anyway I just wanted to tell my story and be open about it, I think that as a veteran and a person that holds traditions scared to the heart both military and at home that we all should look to our past and put together that picture that makes us who we are. Sometimes its the only thing that can makes whole as a person, people or a Nation. TY.
Barbara Pluma Moreno Torres! She’s stunning, she’s just beautiful .. 😍🥰
Y también tiene nombre y apellidos taino si muy tantísimo será ahora que el taino desciende del español porque el nombre e español y los apellidos aún más deberían los tainos para purificar dejar de mezclarse con hispanas de pura cepa por guapas pero como dicen en pr donde se pone una blanquita ee
Taino
The odd thing is that in the mainland USA people with less Native American DNA ,basically white or black are recognized as Native American tribes .Being that 60% of Puerto Rico has Taino ancestry. They would have to acknowledge many people as Native Americans
I'm full native american from Arizona. I don't get how the American government can recognize white and black people with 1 or 2% of native ancestry as official tribes. The Native American population in the United States is 9 million and only 3 million of them are full bloods.
Native American tribes recognize them through history and historical records you cant say that for PR since some have a bit of racial animosity of being of part african origin its discounted via glorification of taino
No es por na’ 30 años en PR y nunca habia escuchado de esto 💀🫠
How can I get in contact with them? I want to learn more about my heritage.
WE are still here!
If Puerto Rico still stands Taínos still stand too! Love from 🇵🇷❤.
I'm not even a minute into this video & I want to make a comment. BTW: a great subject for a video (as even before I knew I had AmerIndian ancestry I was quite interested in AmerIndian Peoples).
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Had I seen that opening classroom shot where you tell of the extinction of the Taino up to as far as last month, I would have simply taken your word for it. Until this month I didn't even know about the Taino, per se (now I might have run across it several decades ago in a Native American Studies course at CSULB & then quickly forgotten as the course didn't go into any great depth on any tribe, but was rather a broad, cross-country sweep across American Indian history & culture where the "extinct" peoples might have gotten a sentence or three in the textbook); however, just this month I received an Advanced Ancestry Analysis report from CRI Genetics with which I had my DNA tested & to my surprise* it listed Puerto Rican: Taino Genotype (perhaps based upon the DNA extracted tooth from some skeletal remains found at a dig in Puerto Rico not so many years ago); so, whether or not a remnant of the tribe remained intact upon Puerto Rico, Taino "blood" (or DNA) goes on in those currently living today.
* = I had no idea of any connection to Puerto Rico. My dad was adopted by a White couple of European decent & raised as White. He went on to marry a gal who looked quite White & only knew of White ancestry, some of it fairly-well documented; so, my older sister & I, being their children, were raised as White. I told my mom that I thought dad looked a bit Asian & perhaps Native American, but she argued he looked German. Turns out he was all that & likely more (CRI Genetics is unable to tell from which parent any particular inherited ethnic marker in one's DNA came from; so, while I know what I've inherited, I can't really say with absolute accuracy what came from any particular parent - esp because there's some overlap of shared ethnicities as well).
That was my one issue with this special. I went to ASU we did the mitochondrial dna research project that re- discovered the Taino dna in Puerto Rican populations. Over 60% of Puerto Ricans have Taino dna, myself included. I’m only half Puerto Rican and I’m 20% Taino. The US doesn’t want to acknowledge Tainos because the island is a tourist draw and if they acknowledge Tainos they’d have to treat the indigenous land like they do other indigenous tribes and the Military and Corporate Colonizers couldn’t do what they want to do on it.
They dont want to acknowledge taino because there are no tribes or lineages traced back to the indigenous people. Dna alone doesn not dictate being indigenous. It’s similar to claiming being part of an african tribe based on dna alone.
@ It’s not the same as being associated with or having lineage with some African tribe. My abuelos are still alive In Puerto Rico, Indigenous traditions are still observed by those who are in fact indigenous and oral history remains. The Tainos were made extinct ON PAPER as there were under 300 pure indigenous left when Africans were brought to the island. That’s the struggle we face. The Indigenous of Puerto Rico have always existed . Also there is no pure 100% anything even those with high concentrations of indigenous blood are not “pure” due largely to colonization. My Alma mater conducted the Mitochondrial dna project in Puerto Rico that not only examined DNA but birth records of slaves from the Catholic Church, they examined purchase records and ship manifests. These types of studies are in depth and published.
As a child of Puerto Rican parents... We learned from them how Puerto Ricans are of three Culturas... Taino, African and Spaniard... We always called ourselves as the "Rainbow People" Unfortunately, the Tainos of the1600's were almost wiped out by Columbus and other Spainard's travelers of the 1600's and beyond... Throughout all of the Caribbeans....
I'm 1/3 Tiano after DNA testing. I haven't been to PR in 15 years. Would like to return to learn more about tge Taino culture.
Taino is on the verge of extinction. The pride in everyone claiming to be “full blood” Puerto Rican but in the same breath say Puerto Rican/ Boricua isn’t a race is the exact reason why on average everyone is 20% indigenous or less.
Orgullosa de mi herencia taína que la tenemos por mis Abuelos! 💖🙏🏼
Hola. Te puede hacer una pregunta. Hay una mujer en Tiktok que dice que es Taíno y comenzó a decir que para ella es un insulto los disfraces de indígenas porque es su cultura. ¿Te sientes ofendida cuando las personas blancas usan difraz de indígena?
@ De verdad, todo depende en el contexto en se expresa el sentir. Reconociendo la confusión y desinformación, si el deseo es apoyar y mostrar admiración y respeto, pués no. Un gran regalo y consejos sabios de nuestros antepasados indígenas nos enseña a Amari y respetar toda la creación y cómo todos estamos conectados. Es también nuestro deber compartir el conocimiento, amor y sabiduría para crear lazos de Paz. Ahó 🙏🦋
My stepfather is 🇵🇷 Taino 🪶and always embraces his indigenous roots
Have these people had DNA tests. What is their percentage of Taino.
Probably not.
Taíno words and culture adopted by U.S.
1. Barabakwa, barbacoa 🍖 (Barbecue)
2. Tabako (tobacco)
3. Hamaka (hammock)
4. Bukan, bucanero 🏴☠️ (buccaneers)
5. Hura (wind) Kan (to be or to abide) Hurakan ( huracanes 🌀 🌪️ )
6. Kanoa ( canoe 🛶 )
Waiba Taíno !!! (Let’s go Taíno !!!)
What a oxymoron. The Puerto Rican Government denying the existence of the Taino Population.
Entre mas conozco a los humanos, mas amo a mi perro!
In the Dominican Republic all our Tainos were erradicated, I don't think anyone claims to be Taino in our island. Actually when we were thought history natives of Puerto Rico were called differently and aggressive towards our Tainos. It's very interesting to hear their side of the story and how they claim to still be Tainos.
That’s your 💩 opinion that’s literally all the f$&k it is
That is simply not true there’s many Taino descendants in the campos of the Dominican Republic
@Jay P r
Really? I hope you live in the island and can point me specifically where they are. Because that's simply not true love.
@@KissyRitzy azua and Jarabacoa in santiago has many Taino descendants still practicing the culture
@Jay P in my 4 decades, I've never read, seen, anything that backs you up. Keep in mind i went to school in the DR . There was a study made by the government, and the people that had the most Taino DNA, had a mere 2% as the most common was a 1%. Again in school we're taught the Tainos we're eradicated, you go to Chavón Museum which houses the biggest collection of artifacts and you'll be told the same.
Sii, algunos escaparon a las montañas!!
I found it to be amazing in took the ancestry DNA. I'm actually native indigenous Puerto Rican !!
Same
@@chrisnarvaez3434 I'm literally 15%
@@urfiredude0048Im 14 percent
I am 31% :)
@@alexandersoto2549 I'm %15
Thank you, they tried to say this about my tribe. We had to fight to be recognized.
They not Taino all what's to be in television that's all. Check blood. They what's free land nothing else. And I and Puerto Rican 51 percent of blood is Taino wish they don't have
Great job big fan of lenguazamo ,after watching his acting in empire ,tainos are a beautiful people