This channel is going to blow up soon. I'm so glad I've found it. It makes me want to get a 3D printer. The models come out so beautifully, especially the Dragons😍.
Wow, thank you so much! I have a video I want to do about getting into 3D printing and what it's really like. I've been mulling it over in my head for a while. I want to tell people that YES, get a printer, it's wonderful! And the forewarn them that there are days you'll want to throw your printer out the window. And that there is a danger of wanting to get a second printer because two is double the fun. Oh, and then the filament, ahhh, the filament. I hope you get a 3D printer!!
@@FilamentStories I absolutely will get a 3D printer this year. I think a video series on 3D printing for beginners would be amazing 🤩 please do it. 3D printing is a very creative hobby that actually makes me feel like I'm in the 21st century.
@@lungilengidi3972 A whole series is a great idea. I'm going to think it through. I know several people have done similar in the past, like Tom Sanladerer has an excellent set of videos. But as Chris Riley said on his channel recently, just because someone has done a video on a topic, still do your video. You will say it differently and have a different take on things and it's all valuable. Or he said something to that effect. It was a very supportive message and I've thought a lot about his words since then. I want to share with people the joys (and realities) of 3D printing and encourage people to get a 3D printer. (or ward them off if they're not ready for the work it will entail). It really has changed the way I think about the world. We don't have one? Let's see if we can print one. It's transformative of the way I've thought about things.
@@FilamentStories "We don't have one? Let's see if we can print one." Love it. I personally would appreciate a beginners series as you have an excellent way of conveying your passion for 3D printing. Watching your RUclips short videos has opened up my world to this new hobby that I knew nothing about. Keep going and thanks for being awesome.
I really like the idea of using the transition filament as infill. It cuts down on the waste in the purge tower. Doing a second version of the model in purge material is a great idea! Who knows, you might end up liking the purge model better than the "good" one.
I've ordered a Mosaic Palette 3 in August 2021 and I still haven't recieved it. I hope I'll recive it soon because I can't wait to start printing with it
That was the best video review of how the Pallette works that I’ve seen. Thank you so much! I’m sold. Now just have to save my allowance to afford it :)
Awesome overview and review. As someone who has had many conversations with Mosaic (and plenty with the CTO), the P3 is definitely a vast improvement on the P2 and I'm very happy about that. Multiple models per-purge block is the most economical way to go. But I do very much agree on having a 0 transition length option. There are plenty of models where bleed is fine, and if it can somehow be combined with the more exact color change transitions, I imagine that some cool effects could be done (imagine a semi-smooth gradient on a spell effect for a mini, while everything else has hard color changes). I still want them to have more recovery methods... that's a longer writeup. Cons are dead on. One of the biggest things is the OTA firmware updates. People don't realize how much that is going to fix issues for people. Have an issue, tell them, hope or expect that they make a firmware update, and it shows up. No more "wait, that's been fixed for 9 months?!" that happened before. I don't know what firmware version you're on, but 22.03.29.0 fixed the issues with the Prusa, so you no longer need "alt" firmware. Cost is going to be the world's biggest debate. If you talk with them, you find out they are a small team that are well paid and the cost for these things aren't money grabs. They made a product that can sit out in the open and isn't just a mess of wires and the minimum number of parts needed to function. They also do very much listen to feedback. I backed them on Kickstarter for the original Palette. Feedback led to the Palette+. More feedback led to the Palette 2. More led to 2S. And more still to the 3. Firmware will continue to improve and fix/add features. There are companies that have not touched their products since their release, so feedback and revisions are massive.
Really nice job guys! Lots of detail.. Thoughtful insights.. Precise discussion.. Pros and cons.. Good technical background.. Strengths and firmware update wishes.. Relevant comparisons.. Helpful advice.. Experiences, and positive outcomes.. This is a high-powered piece of brain work, right here, and clearly a culmination of much research.
Interesting with the reason for the price change. As someone that is in the shipping industry, we are not seeing cost increases on our end. In fact.. manufacturers are paying less than they ever have to move their products. Makes you wonder where that money really is going. love your channel.. bought a few roll from your recommendation just the other day.😁
Now that you have a Bambu with AMS, would you still invest in the Palette? It's an "inexpensive" add-on for an existing printer but the Bambu seems to be a more functional package and leaps ahead in design. However, the Bambu with AMS for us is around $1900.
Was curious but after seeing the price tag.. Why would I pay triple what I paid for my printer when I could just go get a new printer with multiple color capabilities for cheaper than this? lol! Companies are silly. Video was great and you were straight to the point though, and I appreciate that! So many go on and on, not even saying WHAT the product does. Thank you for the great review!
Very nice video. Loved it. On the fence on financing one. New to 3d printing but addicted hard. Already have 2 enders , skr mini e3 v3 btt tft35 v3 skr v3 closed stepper kits lol. Wanted to build a smuff but mosaic 3 pro seems to be the best just work solution. Some reviews warn to stay away. So not sure what to decide though multi color/multi material really interests me.
Nice, just in time for me as I just bought it :D Few questions: 1. How easy is it to remove filament if it breaks in the machine. For example it's going all the way from the input hole to the buffer length, how can I get it out as it also goes through the splice core? 2. What do the numbers for heat, compression and cool mean. I can't quite get my grasp of that part? 3. Is there an easy way to guide the filmament through the palette, like a "filament in" button i have on my vyper, where the extruder moves the filament through the boden tube? 4. How often have you looked behind the plastic transparent cover and what problem arose the most that you had to fix behind the cover? 5. I'm used to Cura as slicer, Is there a way to get the profile settings from Cura into Canvas (I haven't found an easy way yet)?
Hello Raynlaze! 1) Typically, it's very easy. The thumb screws come on and off with ease and stick to the magnetic spots on the side of the case. There is control on the touch screen to move any of the eight filament paths forwards and back as well as the main path after the filament has been spliced. On occasion, there is a break in a spot that the drive can't get to, which requires pushing a piece of spare filament through one or the other end to get the remnant piece out. Getting the filament out and the Palette reset typically takes less than five minutes, with most of that being removing and replacing the covers. 2) I agree, it's not straightforward! I had a hard time cutting off what was review and what was more informational content with this video. I want to do more videos with expanded content on working with Canvas and the Palette. Originally this video was much longer (and possibly more boring as as result!). The base settings for Heat, Compression and Cooling. Some filaments are just fine with that, for instance Polyalchemy Elixir just loves those settings. Some filament needs more heat to make a solid splice and some filament needs the splice point squeezed or compressed to ensure a solid splice. Depending on how much heat or the filament's needs, it may need to be cooled for longer before the Palette advances the filament past the splice core so it doesn't get drawn out, thinning the splice point. It's a matter of trial and error. Ideally, you want to have the lowest values possible. For instance, more compression will decrease the life of your splice tube (a $5 part that is well worth replacing a bit earlier in order to ensure my prints don't fail in my opinion). The current life is fairly large with estimates in the tens of thousands of splices. Here's a document from Mosaic that talks about splice tuning that gives more information with some example numbers for filament types. docs.google.com/document/d/1drtSCEqirU4bwxl9fr31tNBduVxW1juDflmbqZ45sQk/edit 3) Yes, to a point. You can move any one of the eight filament paths forwards or backwards as well as moving the main Drive which advances or retracts the filament after it has passed through the splice core. 4) It's not uncommon. Initially, before I got the hang of splice tuning, I was running print jobs with improperly tuned splices and I would have failures mid-print. I also (rather embarrassingly) had a PETG filament in the mix during one of my livestreams. I truly thought the Palette was having issues. It was TWO HOURS (sigh) before I got the model printing and we had a lot of issues where I went behind the covers. I didn't even realize the issue until the next day. In my experience, the majority of the time I have to go behind the covers, it's something that might have been avoided had I made different choices. It's one of those experience makes all the difference things. That being said, I have had issues where things got out of place, one time where the filament got stuck under the guide bar at the entrance point where the filament comes in. Initially, I thought of it as a "problem" when I had to open the panels, but in practice, it's more part of the process and the panels are there to keep things in proper alignment. Mosaic has made all four pieces very easy to remove and replace. But it will definitely happen! You'll be good friends with those thumb screws by the time you've gotten a collection of prints completed! 5) Not to my knowledge. You can customize the profile settings and make as many profiles as you'd like, but you're constrained to the settings they have and the organization that they have them in. The Prusaslicer option to work with P2PP is a path to use Prusaslicer since they have the MMU component, but there isn't an option for Cura currently. I know there are a lot of Cura users and I totally agree, I like my slicer profiles! It took me a bit to get comfortable with organization things in Canvas. Ideally, I'd like to be able to use whatever slicer we want, but I understand that they need to be able to generate the code from with Canvas because they're adding in things such as the pings to ensure the Palette can adapt their splicing to keep the print on track color-wise. I hope this helps. I plan on doing some more livestreams with the Palette and just having a general Q&A session while something prints. We have family vacation at the grandparents and I'm going to be printer and Palette-less, but I should have some going when I return after next week. Hope to see you there if you have more questions. Courtney
@@FilamentStories Hey courtney, thank you so much for answering my questions and for your comprehensive explanations! It´s good to know that there are multiple ways to get the filament out if something goes wrong inside the Palette. The heat, compression and cooling also make a lot of sense now thanks to your explanation, I'll have to look into that first I think before starting to print something. I'll have to see how many times I'll have to use those thumb screws haha. Hopefully one day they will support Cura as well, but I guess I'll have to get used to Canvas a little bit more. It definitely helped me! I hope to be there on the livestream one day. Have fun at your vacation!
Thanks for this! I've been very interested in the Palette for a long time. I have a printer that works great and I think this would be a smart addition 🤘🤘
Fantastic review. Your enthusiasm and delivery are very appealling. Sadly the Palette looks as though it's not for me. Dialling in the various filaments sounds hella annoying, and I'm knid of trying to figure out where I would place it and the rolls in relation to my printer. Can I just check - it forces you to use its OWN bowden tube to connect direct to the printer? How does the software interface to the printer? Does it slow your regular printing?
Great video. Do yo thin you can do one on Transitioning, variable transition lengths, and advance configuration options with dark and light colors? I have not seen anyone talk about this nor have a video how to correct color bleeding.
Just had a little thought towards a hacky solution to reduce filament waste between colours. Could print the resulting gcode with octoprint and the Exclude Region plugin, then set to exclude the reigon of the purge tower. Recently got into 3d printing and discovered your content. I have bought lots of filament as a result of this chanel
It makes me so happy to know that you've found filament you like from our videos. And your idea about the gcode exclusion is definitely interesting and would work in theory for the printing side. The Palette is splicing filament that includes enough length to do the purge tower area though, so you would get out of sync. It would possibly cause issues too if the Palette was doing any of it's Ping position checks during the removed section, which could cause the job to end in error. I like this direction of thought though. It would be so nice if Mosaic would just offer a zero purge tower option.
@@FilamentStories another thought I had and another potential hacky solution. If the pings tell the palette when a change of filament is near and keep printer and palette in sync, might me possible to write a python script to exclude the purge tower and compensate for the change in extrusion length by moving the pings a little earlier in the gcode each time a section of purge tower gcode is removed.
@@rossc12345 I wonder what post-processing would be necessary. The pings and pongs aren't specifically when color changes are happening, they're at certain intervals so the Palette can know where it is in the overall print. (I believe). Mosaic hasn't shared much information about the conditions under which they're doing the pings and pongs other than to say it's their internal calibration mechanism since the printer and Palette are only handshaking via the filament usage (in a way). I'm interested in seeing what direction they take things in going forward. Hopefully, they're thinking along the same lines.
Hi @FilamentStories, would love an update comparing/contrasting this with Bambu Lab's AMS! Does one waste less in purge towers than the other? Does Bambu make better use of the purged filament? Thanks a bunch!
Actually, the enraged rabbit carrot feeder works with any printer that runs klipper firmware. Note, I don’t know of any vendor version of this device. You will need to build this and make changes to the printers firmware.
I keep thinking about this. I went to their site today. Let's just say it did not ensure confidence. I'm gonna continue to hold off on this. My decision to wait is inspired purely by their website.
I just want to have an option to indicate non-cosmetic part on my model during slicing. In that way bleeding filament can be used on functional part of a model
Excellent job! One question, can you combine 2 filament spools together (I think you called it “spooling mode”) without fully integrating it to your current printer? I ask because im waiting on the new printer I want to eventually hook it up to, but ive got a lot of partial spools I’d like to combine.
I have many pieces of filament that I would like to use. Most are over a few feet long. I would want this mostly for the splicing feature so I don't waste all these pieces. Does this have a feature where if the current stand is used up it will just splice in the next strand and keep working?
Hi, I already contacted them 2 years ago, when I had my Palette 2S pro to ask the no transition option, because it car be nice ! They answered me : "okay we will add this feature soon" .. they said that 2 years ago ....
It's a letdown that Palette replaces your slicer and requires the use of their own closed-source software, but it seems there are ways to get it to interface with PrusaSlicer and the like.
Do you have a video on splice tuning? I've had my palette 3 for 3 weeks and still can't print anything bc splices break within first 20 minutes. Have tried many different splice settings.
Yes yes! I've had a lot of success with it! It's pretty cool. I mean, and it will make you frustrated as heck when it fails. But it's worth it. It really like having the Palette 3.
I'm planning of buying this, but I just got a Sonic Pad for my Ender 3 S1 Pro. Will it work with it? I can't afford the cost for something that isn't going to work at all, and couldn't find many reviews and setups on the internet
Just 1 question, how much longer does it take to print a model compared with a single coloured one? It will obviously be increased due to the transition tower!
Print recovery? How? Everytime I get an error, its done. Am I missing something? Even if I run out of filament (and forgot to designate another feed port to pick up on) the pallete just stops. It doesn't let me correct the issue. I have to completely start over. I have not once had an opportunity to recover a print from a failure. Please explain.
So you have to ditch your custom tuned SS or PS profiles to use/upload designs to a web based slicer and splicing two dissimilar materials wont work?!?.....I'll stick to a ERCF or MMU
As a user of the original Palette, Palette 2 and 2 Pro, the Palette 3 is a big disappointment. Featured promised before release are still missing. They have taken away the ability to work locally and now you have to use their cloud service. Some of the models I work with have license restrictions that prevent me from using cloud services. There is also no support for Klipper. There is a third party app, but it has not worked too well for me. Mosaic has said they will be adding support for Klipper, but my past experience with them is they will say what you want to hear just to get you to go away. I am still waiting for features promised for the Palette 2. So now I have a $900 paperweight sitting here gathering dust. :(
Can you print something else instead of a waste tower. Ie main print the colors you want, then i could make something else as a waste tower that's still useful but it does not matter what color it is. This way no waste. ?
Honest question. Did you get paid to make this review? That, I think should be announced in the beginning of the video so I know if it's biased or not.
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This channel is going to blow up soon. I'm so glad I've found it. It makes me want to get a 3D printer. The models come out so beautifully, especially the Dragons😍.
Wow, thank you so much! I have a video I want to do about getting into 3D printing and what it's really like. I've been mulling it over in my head for a while. I want to tell people that YES, get a printer, it's wonderful! And the forewarn them that there are days you'll want to throw your printer out the window. And that there is a danger of wanting to get a second printer because two is double the fun. Oh, and then the filament, ahhh, the filament. I hope you get a 3D printer!!
@@FilamentStories I absolutely will get a 3D printer this year. I think a video series on 3D printing for beginners would be amazing 🤩 please do it. 3D printing is a very creative hobby that actually makes me feel like I'm in the 21st century.
@@lungilengidi3972 A whole series is a great idea. I'm going to think it through. I know several people have done similar in the past, like Tom Sanladerer has an excellent set of videos. But as Chris Riley said on his channel recently, just because someone has done a video on a topic, still do your video. You will say it differently and have a different take on things and it's all valuable. Or he said something to that effect. It was a very supportive message and I've thought a lot about his words since then. I want to share with people the joys (and realities) of 3D printing and encourage people to get a 3D printer. (or ward them off if they're not ready for the work it will entail). It really has changed the way I think about the world. We don't have one? Let's see if we can print one. It's transformative of the way I've thought about things.
@@FilamentStories "We don't have one? Let's see if we can print one." Love it. I personally would appreciate a beginners series as you have an excellent way of conveying your passion for 3D printing. Watching your RUclips short videos has opened up my world to this new hobby that I knew nothing about. Keep going and thanks for being awesome.
I really like the idea of using the transition filament as infill. It cuts down on the waste in the purge tower.
Doing a second version of the model in purge material is a great idea! Who knows, you might end up liking the purge model better than the "good" one.
Finally someone that talk about coloring, slicing and connecting this thing on printer
I've ordered a Mosaic Palette 3 in August 2021 and I still haven't recieved it. I hope I'll recive it soon because I can't wait to start printing with it
Damn you have really waited.
That was the best video review of how the Pallette works that I’ve seen. Thank you so much! I’m sold. Now just have to save my allowance to afford it :)
Really enjoyed your commentary on all the options for filament swapping that are out there. It really shows me that you know your stuff!
Awesome overview and review. As someone who has had many conversations with Mosaic (and plenty with the CTO), the P3 is definitely a vast improvement on the P2 and I'm very happy about that. Multiple models per-purge block is the most economical way to go. But I do very much agree on having a 0 transition length option. There are plenty of models where bleed is fine, and if it can somehow be combined with the more exact color change transitions, I imagine that some cool effects could be done (imagine a semi-smooth gradient on a spell effect for a mini, while everything else has hard color changes). I still want them to have more recovery methods... that's a longer writeup. Cons are dead on. One of the biggest things is the OTA firmware updates. People don't realize how much that is going to fix issues for people. Have an issue, tell them, hope or expect that they make a firmware update, and it shows up. No more "wait, that's been fixed for 9 months?!" that happened before. I don't know what firmware version you're on, but 22.03.29.0 fixed the issues with the Prusa, so you no longer need "alt" firmware. Cost is going to be the world's biggest debate. If you talk with them, you find out they are a small team that are well paid and the cost for these things aren't money grabs. They made a product that can sit out in the open and isn't just a mess of wires and the minimum number of parts needed to function. They also do very much listen to feedback. I backed them on Kickstarter for the original Palette. Feedback led to the Palette+. More feedback led to the Palette 2. More led to 2S. And more still to the 3. Firmware will continue to improve and fix/add features. There are companies that have not touched their products since their release, so feedback and revisions are massive.
Thanks Courtney, great overview and follow up to the live stream. I do want one....but I've got bills to pay too 😆
I hear you there! 3D printing can add up in cost. I'm terrible at controlling my urge to get the next latest and greatest.
Really nice job guys! Lots of detail.. Thoughtful insights.. Precise discussion.. Pros and cons.. Good technical background.. Strengths and firmware update wishes.. Relevant comparisons.. Helpful advice.. Experiences, and positive outcomes.. This is a high-powered piece of brain work, right here, and clearly a culmination of much research.
What about the Shatnering? There was definitely several sections where I was Shatnering through the entire bit. My. Brain. Was. Working. Hard. Hehe.
@@FilamentStories It would be great... if we could all.. talk.. like.. William.. Shatner.
@@Hullspeed Oh the Shatnerified cuts that never make it...
Interesting with the reason for the price change. As someone that is in the shipping industry, we are not seeing cost increases on our end. In fact.. manufacturers are paying less than they ever have to move their products. Makes you wonder where that money really is going.
love your channel.. bought a few roll from your recommendation just the other day.😁
Well done!!!
Excellent review that includes insightful commentary and well informed usage information.
Keep up your good work!!!
Now that you have a Bambu with AMS, would you still invest in the Palette? It's an "inexpensive" add-on for an existing printer but the Bambu seems to be a more functional package and leaps ahead in design. However, the Bambu with AMS for us is around $1900.
Great to see a review of this by someone who has really used it and explored the possibilities.
Best explanation on differences oh v2 vs v3 and how it all works.
Great video! I really appreciate it. I hope to buy the 3 pro before the end of the year so this video helped with deciding to put it on the wishlist.
Oh thank you! I'm glad it was helpful. Hopefully your wishlist comes true before the end of the year!
cant believe did not find this channel sooner
Well done. Very clear descriptions!
Thank you so much for such a great in-depth review!
The transition without the tower and letting the colours bleed into the next would be super cool!
New here, great videos!
Thank you so much for the information!
I Love your Logo btw! Looking forward to more videos.
Was curious but after seeing the price tag.. Why would I pay triple what I paid for my printer when I could just go get a new printer with multiple color capabilities for cheaper than this? lol! Companies are silly. Video was great and you were straight to the point though, and I appreciate that! So many go on and on, not even saying WHAT the product does. Thank you for the great review!
Do you need to be connected to the internet can you use an offline version ?
Very nice video. Loved it. On the fence on financing one. New to 3d printing but addicted hard. Already have 2 enders , skr mini e3 v3 btt tft35 v3 skr v3 closed stepper kits lol. Wanted to build a smuff but mosaic 3 pro seems to be the best just work solution. Some reviews warn to stay away. So not sure what to decide though multi color/multi material really interests me.
Nice, just in time for me as I just bought it :D
Few questions:
1. How easy is it to remove filament if it breaks in the machine. For example it's going all the way from the input hole to the buffer length, how can I get it out as it also goes through the splice core?
2. What do the numbers for heat, compression and cool mean. I can't quite get my grasp of that part?
3. Is there an easy way to guide the filmament through the palette, like a "filament in" button i have on my vyper, where the extruder moves the filament through the boden tube?
4. How often have you looked behind the plastic transparent cover and what problem arose the most that you had to fix behind the cover?
5. I'm used to Cura as slicer, Is there a way to get the profile settings from Cura into Canvas (I haven't found an easy way yet)?
Hello Raynlaze!
1) Typically, it's very easy. The thumb screws come on and off with ease and stick to the magnetic spots on the side of the case. There is control on the touch screen to move any of the eight filament paths forwards and back as well as the main path after the filament has been spliced. On occasion, there is a break in a spot that the drive can't get to, which requires pushing a piece of spare filament through one or the other end to get the remnant piece out. Getting the filament out and the Palette reset typically takes less than five minutes, with most of that being removing and replacing the covers.
2) I agree, it's not straightforward! I had a hard time cutting off what was review and what was more informational content with this video. I want to do more videos with expanded content on working with Canvas and the Palette. Originally this video was much longer (and possibly more boring as as result!). The base settings for Heat, Compression and Cooling. Some filaments are just fine with that, for instance Polyalchemy Elixir just loves those settings. Some filament needs more heat to make a solid splice and some filament needs the splice point squeezed or compressed to ensure a solid splice. Depending on how much heat or the filament's needs, it may need to be cooled for longer before the Palette advances the filament past the splice core so it doesn't get drawn out, thinning the splice point. It's a matter of trial and error. Ideally, you want to have the lowest values possible. For instance, more compression will decrease the life of your splice tube (a $5 part that is well worth replacing a bit earlier in order to ensure my prints don't fail in my opinion). The current life is fairly large with estimates in the tens of thousands of splices. Here's a document from Mosaic that talks about splice tuning that gives more information with some example numbers for filament types. docs.google.com/document/d/1drtSCEqirU4bwxl9fr31tNBduVxW1juDflmbqZ45sQk/edit
3) Yes, to a point. You can move any one of the eight filament paths forwards or backwards as well as moving the main Drive which advances or retracts the filament after it has passed through the splice core.
4) It's not uncommon. Initially, before I got the hang of splice tuning, I was running print jobs with improperly tuned splices and I would have failures mid-print. I also (rather embarrassingly) had a PETG filament in the mix during one of my livestreams. I truly thought the Palette was having issues. It was TWO HOURS (sigh) before I got the model printing and we had a lot of issues where I went behind the covers. I didn't even realize the issue until the next day. In my experience, the majority of the time I have to go behind the covers, it's something that might have been avoided had I made different choices. It's one of those experience makes all the difference things. That being said, I have had issues where things got out of place, one time where the filament got stuck under the guide bar at the entrance point where the filament comes in. Initially, I thought of it as a "problem" when I had to open the panels, but in practice, it's more part of the process and the panels are there to keep things in proper alignment. Mosaic has made all four pieces very easy to remove and replace. But it will definitely happen! You'll be good friends with those thumb screws by the time you've gotten a collection of prints completed!
5) Not to my knowledge. You can customize the profile settings and make as many profiles as you'd like, but you're constrained to the settings they have and the organization that they have them in. The Prusaslicer option to work with P2PP is a path to use Prusaslicer since they have the MMU component, but there isn't an option for Cura currently. I know there are a lot of Cura users and I totally agree, I like my slicer profiles! It took me a bit to get comfortable with organization things in Canvas. Ideally, I'd like to be able to use whatever slicer we want, but I understand that they need to be able to generate the code from with Canvas because they're adding in things such as the pings to ensure the Palette can adapt their splicing to keep the print on track color-wise.
I hope this helps. I plan on doing some more livestreams with the Palette and just having a general Q&A session while something prints. We have family vacation at the grandparents and I'm going to be printer and Palette-less, but I should have some going when I return after next week. Hope to see you there if you have more questions. Courtney
@@FilamentStories Hey courtney, thank you so much for answering my questions and for your comprehensive explanations! It´s good to know that there are multiple ways to get the filament out if something goes wrong inside the Palette. The heat, compression and cooling also make a lot of sense now thanks to your explanation, I'll have to look into that first I think before starting to print something. I'll have to see how many times I'll have to use those thumb screws haha. Hopefully one day they will support Cura as well, but I guess I'll have to get used to Canvas a little bit more.
It definitely helped me! I hope to be there on the livestream one day. Have fun at your vacation!
This channel grew fast. Good job. Wish I could get this machine lol. One day.
Great suggestions, hopefully they listen.
Excellent informative video. Thanks!!
The magnet holder for the knobs... Thank you.
Thanks for this! I've been very interested in the Palette for a long time. I have a printer that works great and I think this would be a smart addition 🤘🤘
Fantastic review. Your enthusiasm and delivery are very appealling. Sadly the Palette looks as though it's not for me. Dialling in the various filaments sounds hella annoying, and I'm knid of trying to figure out where I would place it and the rolls in relation to my printer. Can I just check - it forces you to use its OWN bowden tube to connect direct to the printer? How does the software interface to the printer? Does it slow your regular printing?
Great video. Do yo thin you can do one on Transitioning, variable transition lengths, and advance configuration options with dark and light colors? I have not seen anyone talk about this nor have a video how to correct color bleeding.
Great video!!! I was wondering why you would need a bowden on a direct drive, that makes sense now.
Just had a little thought towards a hacky solution to reduce filament waste between colours. Could print the resulting gcode with octoprint and the Exclude Region plugin, then set to exclude the reigon of the purge tower.
Recently got into 3d printing and discovered your content. I have bought lots of filament as a result of this chanel
It makes me so happy to know that you've found filament you like from our videos. And your idea about the gcode exclusion is definitely interesting and would work in theory for the printing side. The Palette is splicing filament that includes enough length to do the purge tower area though, so you would get out of sync. It would possibly cause issues too if the Palette was doing any of it's Ping position checks during the removed section, which could cause the job to end in error. I like this direction of thought though. It would be so nice if Mosaic would just offer a zero purge tower option.
@@FilamentStories another thought I had and another potential hacky solution. If the pings tell the palette when a change of filament is near and keep printer and palette in sync, might me possible to write a python script to exclude the purge tower and compensate for the change in extrusion length by moving the pings a little earlier in the gcode each time a section of purge tower gcode is removed.
@@rossc12345 I wonder what post-processing would be necessary. The pings and pongs aren't specifically when color changes are happening, they're at certain intervals so the Palette can know where it is in the overall print. (I believe). Mosaic hasn't shared much information about the conditions under which they're doing the pings and pongs other than to say it's their internal calibration mechanism since the printer and Palette are only handshaking via the filament usage (in a way). I'm interested in seeing what direction they take things in going forward. Hopefully, they're thinking along the same lines.
can I mixup different kinds of material like pla, pva, petg, all together in one print?
I have two Cetus2 3D printers. I really enjoy them but only 2 colors. I'd really like to get something like this for my cr10
Hi @FilamentStories, would love an update comparing/contrasting this with Bambu Lab's AMS! Does one waste less in purge towers than the other? Does Bambu make better use of the purged filament?
Thanks a bunch!
Actually, the enraged rabbit carrot feeder works with any printer that runs klipper firmware. Note, I don’t know of any vendor version of this device. You will need to build this and make changes to the printers firmware.
I keep thinking about this. I went to their site today. Let's just say it did not ensure confidence. I'm gonna continue to hold off on this. My decision to wait is inspired purely by their website.
Excellent review thanks!
impressive review. thank you
I just want to have an option to indicate non-cosmetic part on my model during slicing. In that way bleeding filament can be used on functional part of a model
Great work
Great review. Do you have the settings for Jessie pla?
Excellent job! One question, can you combine 2 filament spools together (I think you called it “spooling mode”) without fully integrating it to your current printer? I ask because im waiting on the new printer I want to eventually hook it up to, but ive got a lot of partial spools I’d like to combine.
I have many pieces of filament that I would like to use. Most are over a few feet long. I would want this mostly for the splicing feature so I don't waste all these pieces. Does this have a feature where if the current stand is used up it will just splice in the next strand and keep working?
Hi,
I already contacted them 2 years ago, when I had my Palette 2S pro to ask the no transition option, because it car be nice !
They answered me : "okay we will add this feature soon" .. they said that 2 years ago ....
It's a letdown that Palette replaces your slicer and requires the use of their own closed-source software, but it seems there are ways to get it to interface with PrusaSlicer and the like.
Do you have a video on splice tuning? I've had my palette 3 for 3 weeks and still can't print anything bc splices break within first 20 minutes. Have tried many different splice settings.
I saw the demo. Did you finally get it to work ?
Yes yes! I've had a lot of success with it! It's pretty cool. I mean, and it will make you frustrated as heck when it fails. But it's worth it. It really like having the Palette 3.
U got an Abo just for the WiFi Name xd.
Btw great Video. :)
There needs to be a "purge to sacrificial model" where the purge tower is a second model.
I'm planning of buying this, but I just got a Sonic Pad for my Ender 3 S1 Pro. Will it work with it? I can't afford the cost for something that isn't going to work at all, and couldn't find many reviews and setups on the internet
Just 1 question, how much longer does it take to print a model compared with a single coloured one?
It will obviously be increased due to the transition tower!
Print recovery? How? Everytime I get an error, its done. Am I missing something? Even if I run out of filament (and forgot to designate another feed port to pick up on) the pallete just stops. It doesn't let me correct the issue. I have to completely start over. I have not once had an opportunity to recover a print from a failure. Please explain.
So you have to ditch your custom tuned SS or PS profiles to use/upload designs to a web based slicer and splicing two dissimilar materials wont work?!?.....I'll stick to a ERCF or MMU
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
How do you line up the transitions between colors? Is there a way to calibrate that with near pinpoint accuracy?
A link to P2PP would be helpful
I added links to the Github and Wiki. There are also some videos out there that help with it.
@@FilamentStories Thank You!
Great video 👍😊
As a user of the original Palette, Palette 2 and 2 Pro, the Palette 3 is a big disappointment. Featured promised before release are still missing. They have taken away the ability to work locally and now you have to use their cloud service. Some of the models I work with have license restrictions that prevent me from using cloud services. There is also no support for Klipper. There is a third party app, but it has not worked too well for me. Mosaic has said they will be adding support for Klipper, but my past experience with them is they will say what you want to hear just to get you to go away. I am still waiting for features promised for the Palette 2. So now I have a $900 paperweight sitting here gathering dust. :(
Can you print something else instead of a waste tower. Ie main print the colors you want, then i could make something else as a waste tower that's still useful but it does not matter what color it is. This way no waste. ?
She never added the link to the livestream. :(
I want one but the 3 pro is like 1300 I can buy like 7 Enders for that. I would get the 3 but I want the 8 filament options
Is it a multi material or just a multicolor unit?
"I took my Palette on vacation..." - I had to "like" it :)
I need help! My palette 3 displayed this message; Z_BUF_ERROR. What does it mean? I got the palette 2 days ago. Can anyone help?
I heard that it's very loud. Can you verify this?
can this be used on AnyCubic Kobra Maxx?
Skynet- 😆 I saw that.
Shhh! I don't think it's self-aware yet
Honest question. Did you get paid to make this review? That, I think should be announced in the beginning of the video so I know if it's biased or not.
She mentioned at the end of the video that she was not paid to make this video.
Selling one on ebay used once
4:34 SKYNET 😆
Unfortunately what has happened in the last week any company that requires 'cloud service' is taboo.
Cheers.
You could just buy a bambu or 2 anycubic color printers for the price of this.
To expensive, here its 799 euro for the 3 pro and for that i get a P1s and AMS for 100 euro more.
We have the same WiFi name 🤣
they should have dropped the price with the trash it is
How much less filament do you estimate is wasted with the Palette 3 pro vs multicolor prints with the Bambulab X1C?