Alot of us voted out just to take our boarders out the hands of the E.U. along with leaving we needed someone to clamp down on the boarders as a leader. But we don't seem to ever get one and doesn't look like we ever will. On another note, I was just in Spain for 2 weeks there. Everything was FAR more expensive than it is here. By a long shot too.
Integrity means sticking to what a sober analysis of data says, regardless of the popularity of that analysis. Thunderfoot doesn't play favourites. That's all you cant ask for today, really. Jolly good bloke, regardless of what the ideological, political and cult-of-personality following extremists say
@davidturner6995 where do you live over there, and where are you in the UK? I live in Scotland, and wad over in salou. I lived in salou for a year, 20 year ago. I'd have said it wad around 40% cheaper than the UK then. But this time it was definitely the opposite way around
@@eddiebear34 In Brum at the mo , live in outside Alicante . 500 ml can of IPA is 90 p , just back from Tesco 300 ml can 150 p .Decent bottle of wine 4 pounds . Strip of pork fillet to feed 4 , about 4 pounds
I live in Japan. My company sent me to the UK Embassy in Tokyo to attend an economic conference. Basically, speakers were saying the UK was the gateway of choice for the European market. This was was years before the vote. When I asked the speakers during the open mic session about the EU skeptic movement in the UK, I was laughed at. I told to my managers to better focus on other European countries or at least diversify their partnership throughout Europe. They didn’t listen. I left for another reason (boredom). The managers retired since and the company’s market share went to shit. Sounds like a “I told you so!”?moment but many people saw it coming. I should also point that most of the UK expats pro Brexit were also pro Trump for some reason. UK, still wish you the best.
I worked with the embassies in Tokyo too - I was in Tokyo when Bill Gates had to leave after arriving because there was an earthquake warning. XD I am hoping the UK can form a closer relationship with Japan now that we are out of the EU and joining the CPTPP. ^^
@@rubix4195 The pill Japan doesn't want to take is their real saviour will be China. They are about to spiral out of control, and still have a little time to course correct, but that unfortunate Japanese pride won't let them. Also it's sad that those who make the mistakes just step out the side door when it all goes tits up. We have a guy like that here and his failures after his retirement will take years to undo.
@ZwiftyZwifter Well, they're saying this is their independence day, as if they were colonised! I'm sure you're aware of their colonial history that includes Australia
@@__beer__ Since he's an Irishman, I'm sure he's well aware of how shite it is to be invaded and have your lands & wealth stolen by the English with no recompense. Of course he's probably white so nobody cares. I would have to say though, the Aboriginal Australians really did get fucked over hard, and are still being fucked over hard.
@@luchighwalker4108 had the UK remain the bill would be 190 billion to pay to the EU, due to their massive spending during covid. and their "collective recovery plan" even now the EU are begging for more funding... Finland only yesterday said no more money to go to the EU . Poland is calling an referendum and Germany is in recession. German industry shutdown and will likely never recover
@@MinkieWinkle didn't the UK also spend tons of money during the pandemic? All of Europe is in recession (and has been since Covid). You just can't spend yourself out of a recession by borrowing money.
The brexit "debate" you had with sargon was the exact point when I realized what a colossal tool that man was. His willingness to casually shrug off every logical argument you provided with absolutely no response of his own beyond mindlessly parroting Farage's narrative showed me exactly what little overlap there was between the foundational beliefs of his that he claimed he represented and what he actually represented.
Source No seriously, I want to watch that but my internet search skills are poor. I'm going to type sargon thunderfoot into RUclips but if that doesn't work if anyone could help, thanks.
Pretty much Sargon's whole brexit videos were a wake up call. He unironically said that he wouldn't mind going threw a 10 year long recession because he believed it would be better afterwards. 10 years is a long time!
@@rchristie5401Sargon of Akkad , got his start doing things similar to tf but a fair bit more ideological in practice. He's one of those individuals who is smart enough to make good points, but when you take a good hard squint it breaks down.
Similarly disillusioned with Sargon. For me it was the illegal migrant/refugee debate. His rhetoric focuses only on middle-eastern muslim men and 'grooming rings' while ignoring a buddist that over stayed his student visa from south-eastern Asia that raped boys. His song and dance only has one tune.
Never heard of either 'confirmation bias' or 'self fulfilling prophesy' then? Brexit was exactly the right thing for this country and only needed the right people in place to deliver - which we've never had!
@@paulsinclair3401Democracy doesn't mean that you suicide your country because it's the popular meme of the year. That's just insanity and why modern "democracy" fails when faced with leeches and ticks like Boris Johnson and other conservatives. You need to have other systems in place to ensure political stability and clean out this infestation once in awhile.
Doesn't feel good in the UK, mortgage payments have doubled in some cases, prices for everyday products have increased and taxes have gone up while wages in the private sector have not increased with inflation. I don't think we can blame Brexit for all of this when we see the same problems happening across the globe but I guess people will believe what they want to believe.
@@anonymouse740increases in price is definitely linked to privatization, especially in the energy sector. Brexit makes it harder to negotiate trades, so smaller supply of natural gas + dependency for gas (due to privatization) = supply shortage.
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 privatisation??? You think privatisation is the cause of gas price increases? Privatisation? Are you absolutely serious? Privatisation???
I (most of the time) agree with what you say. Sometimes I don’t but I always respect the fact that you have an opinion and don’t bend to majority. Continue with your great work!
Wtf? They were never going to make it easy for us to leave, Brexit is the only thing the British public can and should be proud of. I don't care if it made me poorer, you don't get benefits for coming out of prison, you get freedom! What you choose to do with it afterwards is down to our pedo politicians unfortunately who are and always will be in bed with the deep state
It's a mournful day - like every battle won is the same as every battle lost - but it was a democratic decision and I do agree with the merit of it. I hoped we would be able to do a lot more within the UK instead of pandering to some kind of international cheerleader when the UK needs to reform internally and politically. It was always predicted that a vote to leave the EU with the UK would be close (It was actually run before) but I think UK politicians on BOTH sides (remain and leave) were insincere in their arguments: neither were looking to adjust the arrangement to suit the UK needs or establish where the future for the UK actually is. Rather keeping the status quo - which affected the disenfranchised politically mainly - the career politicians didn't understand the electorate and failed to deliver a compelling argument to leave against someone who - even the Remainers admitted that - was a powerful orator and debater and, since the formation of the Common Market, was able to explain to the electorate that the EU had moved beyond it's original goal. For the price of our freedom, the Remainers simply have to wait and laugh at our failings but, for the UK, it's time to question what our future really is and realise who we are leaving the EU. Brexit is not the end or the beginning of anything for the UK - it's the UK realising that something isn't right with how we are now. Channels that are pro/anti Brexit ignore the point but, for me, it was our generation's English Civil War and it's time to reconcile.
People will follow you, if you tell them what they want to hear. But if it isn't based on reality, but emotions instead, their speeches will age like milk. And I love how your videos are so humorous in a way that is informative at the same time. If people acted rationally, instead of emotionally, they would come to better conclusions, but we wouldn't have these funny videos.
We are ignoring the real reason this happened breaks. It was a plea from Anglo-Saxons to reclaim their country. As much as the people want to feel civilized deep down, they couldn’t say it, but it was about immigration. How many people would’ve tolerated it if it meant emigration
@@rudysmith1552 immigration kept your economy afloat you idiot. You look at any developed country and you see that immigration is literally a response to native people working more high end jobs and not having kids and thus not supporting the social systems in place, aside from gaps in low end jobs that are still needed. Brexit doesn't fix a societal problem of this type, it's just gonna make it worse.
@@eldorado3523 counterexample Japan they make the best cars in the world as far as reliability. Their media is far superior to the vast majority of western media. They have more multimedia influence in any continental European country when it comes to international appeal. Oh and they have lower crime rates than England, or the United States.
That people - actual adults - heard "300 million pounds" and thought "yeah thats a lot for a country, if we had that amount, we would actually use it for the people" xD
In short Thunderf00t mentioned it's a stupid idea while Sargon would be on something we would call "Copium" though I guess it was a bit before so maybe "Hopium"?
@@NephritduGrey I mean Sargon in general has a huge ego. He just generally believes he's an intellectual which is usually a bad sign your pride blinds you of.
@@Skylancer727 Yeah, the famous (or infamous) Dunning-Kruger Effect can be quite strong in some people. Sad part was though he was more correct than not in the "good old" "This week in stupid" (or how the series was called). Or rather I could agree more with what he said back then but afterwards it went downhill and for Brexit really fast down the drain.
@@Skylancer727 It took some time for me to realise that he is a rather unintelligent and uneducated man who learnt to take in a fancy way. I'm not proud of that.
Farage did make a good point though. No longer being able to blame everything on Brussels certainly has shown just how utterly useless our politicians are. Up here in Scotland we have the SNP trying to pull the same stunt but with the UK....
But at least it's british politicians making bad decisions rather than some random un-elected individual making decisions for them. Imagine some american politician telling Scotland what to do and how to do it.
@@nemonucliosis Except... you know... the fact that the people in Brussels _are_ in fact elected? You know, via the EU parliament elections that are held once every 5 years? Like the last one was in 2019 and the next one will be in 2024? F me, I wish people would hust stop this lie about how the EU is made up of "unelected-herp-di-derp". 😑
In Denmark there has been a lot of skepticism of the EU, and rightfully so, but even those of us who aren't happy with everything the EU does can still recognize, that leaving would be worse. Free trade and free flow of labour is simply a benefit for everyone and it was so obvious from the start, that there was no way Brexit was going to do anything positive.
Mate! Can you point me to where I can get the animation of your profile pic? It's the one where he mashes his hands in to blood doing pointless busywork? I had a job like that once and my boss sent me that on an email shortly before we both left. 😂
I will admit I don't really follow UK politics. However there was one thing that led me to believe Brexit was a terrible Idea. The Russian GRU groups Fancy Bear and Sandworm were putting on a campaign in support of it. There seemingly was only one reason to support it. If it weakened the EU so they couldn't compete as effectively with Russian interest. The same reason those same groups put on a campaign to support Trump in the US.
Ah the classic conspiracy theory approach of the nutcase. While otherwise Hanlon's razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." But "follow the money" ... surely. You will end up in someones rectum. Maybe in your own! **facepalm**
who benefited from it? -> ppl with money/lobiists/politicians . Why ? For lobiists Brussle is like an auktion , every one wants something to get done and all the decissions have more interrestgroups . So why try to compeed wiht lobiists from other nations when you just want influence in one nation. Get out of the EU and the bidding on the powerauction is gone . Just another monday in the office and only our interrests for the government. who lost the most and why? -> Joe Doe because the millions of smal pockets always pay the bill. if you got better answers comment down below .
It gets worse as you get older. You'll one day realize some of your favorite music or movies are over 20 years ago. When that happens, you'll know you're old
As a Hungarian I am jealous of having interviews confronting politicians. In here we see 99%+ politician caressing by comfortable questions. For the government they have only one event where journalists may ask questions, with little or no chance to have conversations at all.
Well they pretty much own the news outlets there. Also very high risk involved to report on cleptocracy, a real arises to keep passing the open windows.
As a German who moved to the UK after Brexit, thanks to all those lads the british company that hired me now has to pay £9,000 in fees to the government just so they are allowed to hire me, certainly an outstanding move to help the economy grow.
@@nowonmetube think he's referring to the fact that foreign workers should now pay their NHS fees for the duration of their contract in advance of their hiring, and usually companies will cover for that. But I may as well be wrong!
@@furtall If the UK has gone like the US there'll be a load of fees for immigration lawyers who put together all the paperwork to get a work visa. And then there'll be the cost of the visa itself. And if they pay relocation there'll be more costs involved with customs paperwork for moving belongings to a 3rd country. It's remarkably expensive.
@@furtall The health surcharge is only a small part of the total, most of it is comprised of a general license fee for the company, only to be allowed to hire foreigners in the first place. They also then need a additional license for every foreigner they hire, oh and then obviously the fees for the visa.
There is an ancient "Yes, Prime Minister" episode where Hacker (successfully) used EU regulations about British Sausage for political gain. Once again, the show's writers were prophetic about the nature of politics & short term thinking.
@@ZwiftyZwifter The show always portrayed the EU as a useless bureaucracy. What made the episode funny was how Hacker used a trivial matter over sausage ingredients for popularity points.
@@nicholashylton6857 yes. Indeed. Because it tells a story. Like the banana bendiness. People made much of the fact that the EU doesn’t in fact regulate the bendiness of bananas sold in the EU. Making Brexiteers seem like easily duped fools. Though they do regulate the bendiness of bananas imported to the EU. Who’s the fool?
Come on Luv, move to the Netherlands. We've been united for centuries, hell, we even speak your language (poorly). By this time you might need a visa. Sorry about that, we wouldn't want any pesky gold-seeking-refugees over on our knack of the -woods- continent.
The "United" in United Kingdom only means that these three nations - England, Scotland and Wales (Northern Ireland became part of The U.K. in 1921 according to what I've read) - are operating under a common series of laws and forms of governance in accordance to a unionizing agreement set up in the early 17th century.
1:10 how is that not taking back control? Whereas before as EU members the UK didn't have meaningful discretion over its EU migration policy now it does. Large net migration figures recently are a reflection of govt policy and somewhat anomalous given a not inconsiderable amount of those coming to the UK were made up of Ukrainian refugees and people from Hong Kong. Fundamentally flawed thinking there in thinking control begets a lower net migration outcome - not necessarily the case.
Well, you managed to completely predict this one too, I will admit, I was entirely wrong about Brexit being a good idea. >.< Gosh what a moronic decision
And now the UK is fucked for an entire generation. Tehe ooopsie. If there's one positive you can take, it's that it should be the slap to the face you need to see that politics matters, and casting an informed vote matters. And has consequences.
@@rambysophistry1220 Agreed and yet it seems very rare these days so I think it's always worth highlighting the people who are capable of such introspection.
@@graveperil2169 There is a solid argument that the UK should never have joined the EU in the first place. There is no such argument for leaving. Only delusional idiocy, at best. (reasons for the general public voting in favour mostly amount to ignorance and gullability.) When you look at what the UK has done that the EU was previously preventing them from doing, the length of the list of 'things that are actively detrimental to the average citizen that EU law would have prevented' is a hell of a lot longer than the list of 'things that are in any way beneficial to the average citizen that EU law would have prevented'. ... now, the list of things that are beneficial to large (often multinational) corporations that EU law would have prevented and British law doesn't is somewhat longer.
@@rchristie5401ut they said they weren't lying! Surely we can believe them, look as they say strong words in expensive suits and with flapping jowls! I'm voting for that guy!
@@gafrers I wish I was joking. This is basically how the modern manosphere works. All the trash connected to Shapiro, Yuanopoulos, Peterson, the Q-anon anti-vaxx anti-LGBT nutters are very similar. I'm not sure what to refer to these people as, they don't really have a name just a Venn diagram.
i remember when femminists all dropped down like vultures on Thunderfoot for him being a mysoginist, he took it like a champ and thunderstood for it. Well, he is still here, yet people like Anita are forever gone. Hope Elon goes down as well.
It's a shame that cretin Sargon is still around. At least I think he is. Can't bring myself to even look him up. Don't want his filth being picked up by the algorithm.
@@DrWhom lol sure she has her followers, like any other cult, but she has no real power, not being invited anywhere etc. I havent heard of her for years in any media tbh.
"You shouldn't have a political opinion!" a.k.a. "I don't want to consider your opinion, I want to affirm mine without thinking about what I'm supporting!"
We salute all the brave brexiteers for their help strengthening Europe. It's very much appreciated. In a serious note, I feel for you and hope all goes well. Greetings from Spain.
As someone from mainland europe, it is very funny to see how the UK takes its place as the fallen empire that it is. Demoted to not even a regional power.
I remember watching this vote from here in the States because even though it was a slim chance I had a feeling that the UK was going to screw everything up
I remember the New Yorker had a satire piece about this theme that ended with the thought that Americans can laugh for once... at least until they elect Trump.
@@forthrightgambitia1032 It's cyclical, they elect Trump but then we elect Johnson. It would be nice if we could just enjoy a good laugh at each other for more than 5 minutes before getting egg on our faces.
Heh, I remember this and I remember sharing your opinion. I can't wait for this. Also: You can schedule the livestream now, have this as a "trailer for it" on the same page. (Users can then click on the notification button to receive a notification taking them directly to the livestream once it starts. Usually takes between 5 to 10 minutes to push the notification to everyone.)
I still remember your debate against Sargon of Akkad and a couple of his moronic lackeys. I particularly remember one spineless invertebrate who's argument against staying in EU was "Russia does not like it so we too should leave or we get attacked like Ukraine was". I think he was Romanian but I dont remember his name / nick nor do I care. Anyhow those debates to me showed like nothing else how few actual arguments, or actual facts, brexit crowd had. It was beyond pathetic. Back then brexiters were "destroyed with FACTS and LOGIC" and now they are being destroyed by consequences. Even if they came to their senses and changed their minds, consequences are here to stay.
It doesn't really matter if brexit was a mistake or not, what matters is the amazing ability of humans, individually or in groups, to convince themselves that their choices were the right ones. The innate ability to justify our own existence.
@@snex000 says the dude living in a society where 99% of the population is controlled in one way or the other. Doesn't London have literal CCTV cameras at every corner of a street? In what way was Europe controlling the UK, if anything Brexit proves you weren't being controlled, a shit decision like that would trigger the "controlling EU politicians" to stop it at any cost not to lose a major EU component to a bunch of idiots.
It took several decades for British people to realise the increasing power grabbing dangers of the E.U. ; Loss of their borders, sovereignty, law making etc.. Somebody with clout to force a vote and surprising the upper classes, the average citizen vote leave. What happened next was those in power who could oppose the will of the people threw spanners in the works to the point we had a hung parliament for months, 20 ish M.P.'s crossed the floor whatever their constituents thoughts (all lost their seats at the next election), the Voters have become more sure of leaving the now more E.U.S.S.R. than before 2016. The brexit party M.E.P.'s result forced May's resignation.. Boris promised to 'get it done' so the brexit party stood down candidates against every sitting tory M.P. in the country_ (I expect you forgot that- it wont happen again) After that The People gave Boris an 80 seat majority to get it done, STILL proving their wishes on this matter_ Boris b/sh1tted and signed a bad deal, that was only an adjusted May surrender treaty (but it was a start) Since then, Boris has been ousted in a coup over the presentation of a CAKE (which by then the general populace gave not a flying fxck about and likely wouldnt have at the time cos we 'followed the science' and made our own health risk judgements) Sunak (no mandate) has taken over and cancelled all red tape reductions to keep us in line with the E.U. (s.s.r.) When you get to the bottom of this yt vid you are praising your calls earlier saying you were correct; brexit was a bad (or wrong) vote and a failure. But there cannot be a 'bad' (or wrong) vote result; only one you disagree with. You claim to be a man of science and we acknowledge your mildly over avg, I.Q. but you do not accept this un-scientific concept (one vote per person) or the math ('LEAVE' won?) Brexit is being resisted at every level of gov. influence, Brexit has barely started yet. (might take more than one g.election for the bbc watching grandparents to wake up or be replaced with people who dont watch MSM) Until then we are stuck in BRINO_ Yet you shout its a failure and you were correct all along .. (where do you live again? do you tell U.S. citizens they made the wrong call with the civil war or is that 'DIFFERENT'?? THINK HARD ABOUT THAT.) Stick to slating Elon, TF. IT IS ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS you are just chirping a load of told you so bollox and have little knowledge of the intracacies.
@@herrschaftg35 You dont need to know much about 'Brexit' except the United Kingdom joined the 'EEC' - a European 'common market' (like the CANZUK deal, or other free trade area) in the mid 1970's, and since then, Prime ministers John Major and Gordon Brown signed the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty's, effectively making the United Kingdom a 'state' of the European Union (like Texas is a 'state' but without the state law making absolute ability) Now those 2 prime ministers did not ask the people, and as time went on it became obvious what is now the 'E.U.' has become the E.U.S.S.R. It gets worse cos they deal in bad faith. If you agree to let a few boats fish your seas they will take all the fish and land them for processing on mainland europe taking more jobs, they will bribe the heavy industry manufacturers to move to mainland eu taking their plants away from the u.k. , bribe U.K. farmers to grow nothing- ( how that works? more processing, manufacturing and shipping work lost to the e.u. and Brit shoppers pay a lot more) the list is endless_ They (did and still do) want control of the U.K.'s armed forces. (despite only GREECE also contributing 2% GDP to NATO, and we hope Greece fxcking leave the E.U.S.S.R. too cos we can talk to our allies in Greece and the E.U. countries as war allies always will be USELESS SKINFLINT COWARDS.) Everything from the weights and measures allowed on a fruit stall and how many degrees a banana can be bent were set by Brussels and we gave them roughly 8 billion a year for that. So the U.K. leaving the E.U. was a bit like the states civil war kicking out the Brits (no taxation without representation, cos the E.U. parliament is a joke, the M.E.P.'s get to propose nothing, just a chance they can slow things down and prevent another Lefty atrocity_ ) Covid 19 is a bit beyond Thunderfoots experience and common sense; Surprise surprise it WAS a manmade virus (lab near epicenter; rocket science?) Masks were 'almost' ineffectual, can slow moisture spread from breath a bit) The jabs are worthless since omicron but were always riskier for the healthy under 65's.. (I will admit the U.S. has a problem with obese people who might be better off with a jab, which has influenced advice from the CDC to 'ordinary' people but many are so fat the CDC is failing the people in the first place.) We dunno about U.S. politics except Trump will do the job and not take the presidential salary, while 'The Big Guy' and his Son would hand the nuclear football over to a Thai ladyboy for 1/2 a gram of coke and a blow job.
I scrolled back to your first video "LIAR LIAR LIAR!" Sincere congrats on more than a decade and a half of making clueful/thoughtful/useful videos ... have greatly enjoyed it. Thanks. Cheers
Well, that and an awful lot of people who are upset about it weren't actually old enough to vote in the referendum, but absolutely Were old enough to vote in subsequent elections.
If we lay every ill at the door of Bexit, we'll fail to fully analyse other significant causal factors of those ills and just spiral round and round. Given the choice of respecting a referendum or ignoring it, we should choose the former every time; let's try to make it work, given that it's where we are, out. Perhaps the pro EU side has to ask how the hell were we so complacent and/or unable to articulate our case. It is somewhat late to keep making it now.
Most of the problem was that the entire referendum was expected to fail on its own merits, due to being a very dumb idea. (The ignorance, gulliblity, and idiocy of the general public were underestimated). In the aftermath, a non-terrible brexit was Possible... but the incompitence of the political class as a whole in that regard was... impressive.
The EU is complete trash tho. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomatic efforts, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market, no effort to solve the cost of living crisis, a dumpster fire of an energetic transition. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean every year !!! (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
actually, a whole lot of that came back in the form of subsidies to areas of the UK that the tories would rather see die yes, harsh, but that's the long and short of it
Lol. If you officially leave the EU and then don't practically, isn't much of a Brexit is it. That was never the point. European integration and especially NATO are fine and well--let the US pick up most of the bill. Would be idiotic diplomacy to not get along with the EU countries as "peers". It's the principles of both currency retention and political retention that matter. If the EU (Brussels) or EURO (currency) goes in a terrifying direction which it does from time to time, you are not obligated to follow. It's an important distinction. By remaining separate you are ensuring you will not be dissolved into a United Europe modeled after the United States. If there is an internal conflict, you don't have to fight a civil war over it. Sure you can lend a hand and do what countries have done for centuries through alliances and treaty but you don't have to fundamentally change your political structure as some of the PIIGS did and still do bowing to the ECB's demands. The US is stuck. The cities want to be hyper liberal and everywhere else wants to be left alone and not participate in the schemes. There is no recourse for that difference and so hence the nation is very polarized not among state lines, mostly among county lines. All across the US, the rural people don't need or want the drama of the cities. To them, city folk are the crazy ones living on a different planet. I can relate. I've lived both city and rural life. The economics of the dynamic are interdependent especially in this globalized trade world so that's not going away. However, they are starkly different ways of approaching this short time we have in this universe and on this planet. Farage is a zealot, I'll give you that Philip, but he's not an idiot. He knows exactly what he did and why he spearheaded it thinking many decades into the future. Let's consider Farage's banking ban from international banking establishments based in the UK. Why did they do that to him? Brussels wouldn't lift a finger to challenge those institutions. Hopefully the UK will but that remains to be seen. Had the UK still been in the EU, the UK couldn't do a whole lot about it. All the final decisions would end up in Brussels about whether to act or not. In my opinion, banks can do whatever they want but there's a limit to shutting someone out of the financial sphere akin to sanctions. Sanctions are an act of war whether people are so used to it as to not believe it.
I, as a proud member of the EU, thought that it was the dumbest desicion ever to exit it. Not only because I have an Ex who went to a british university and couldn't attend it anymore because of Joris Bohnson, but because the british law is above the EU law in a lot of aspects and it's like being your own CEO and then you pay to leave your own company.
Honestly, Joining the EU (or the entire chain of events to get to that point, it wasn't a single one off decision) was arguably a poor choice for the UK (certainly the way they went about it was Very bad for quite a few members of the Commonwealth)... but Leaving was a substantially worse one.... Even that might have been salvagable (or at least quite a bit less bad) though, if not for the utterly Staggering incompitence of the British political class as a whole when it came to the handling of the whole matter.
@@laurencefraserjoining the EEC soon after the IMF bailed the UK because it's economy was in shambles was a poor decision? It was called the sick man of Europe for a reason, and the EEC still gave it privileges as if it were an actual powerhouse not a recently bailed our beggar The UK needed to get into the EEC to see needed increase in its economic potential output, otherwise you'd have been the Argentina of Europe
GDP was up after Brexit. Despite predictions of a downward trend -4% after Brexit With Covid and Ukrain War current Problems cant really be pinpointed to Brexit. Besides it was about independence. How smal people are doing now or how they feel cant be messured in Numbers.
Brexit has certainly been a failure but this Tory government has also been an unmitigated disaster in so many ways. So while Brexit has turned into a nightmare, I don't think we can blame it all on Brexit when this government has been steadily destroying this country for over a decade now.
No one in the debate for Brexit, ever addressed the immigration issue outside of Brexit. No one ever addressed the vaguely undemocratic nature of the EU. No one addressed the issues so your failure compounded.
@@Ninjaeule97 The EU is complete trash tho. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomatic efforts, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market, noi effort to solve the cost of living crisis, a dumpster fire of a energetic transition. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean every year !!! (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
There’s no shame in being a part of the 48% who would eventually get to say “I told you so” even if there’s little to no reason to celebrate such foresight. For many it was a referendum on xenophobia as much as anything else and that alone diminishes our stature as any sort of forward-thinking global power.
As a Brexiteer I found the remainers to be universally ignorant on virtually anything relevant to the topic. They appeared only concerned with how it would look rather than what it would mean.
@@ZwiftyZwifter As a Brexiter, you probably haven't got the first clue about virtually anything related to the topic, unless by "related to the topic" you mean that any kind of real world consequence is irrelevant and all that matters is the symbolic value and the signal sent to the world and the philosophical sense of freedom gained. You know, the old Sargon logic. Fuck the economy, fuck the legalese noise, fuck the practical issues, just give me some abstract notion of freedom that essentially makes life harder in every conceivable way. Not a single damn pro-Brexit argument was ever based on the merits. It was always, and without exception, turned into a question of emotional value. Take the bullshit 350 million per week. That sounds substantial but it represents a fiction reached through looking at costs divorced from benefits. By the same reasoning, why don't you save bundles by refusing to pay rent? I'll tell you why, because it sucks to be homeless. But that sort of idiocy was literally the most substantive argument the Brexiters had. The immigration issue? You had control over that already. But why let that stop you lot from drumming up a whole lot of "filthy foreigners" hyper-nationalist zeal, right?
From what I saw about the projected effects, I thought that TF would have a pretty hard time being objective since it looked like it was going to directly effect his work.
as an European citizen and long time viewer from your amazing channel. Brexit for me was doomed since the start, it was a simple and clear road to disaster. Unfortunately, the people let themselves be carried away by these charlatans. I don't know what to say now. shit is already done. I'll be here for sure, keep up the good work.
Don’t expect rationality out of Anglo-Saxons when they are losing their identity and watching everything they built collapse. We ignore the real reason this happened couldn’t be that England had more immigration than the Normandy invasion and the Vikings combined. Rest assured, Brit your country will fall into multiple pieces, and England will compete with the United States to see who the failed state. 2076 will feel like 476.
As a Yank ill admit that the mess is lost on me, except for the fact it is a cluster f&#$ of epic proportions. Now what? Closer ties to USA? Most Brits i know hate that almost as much as "kneeling" to Berlin amd Brussels. What a mess.
Some things apparently: "New border controls and immigration restrictions, the result of the UK's choices, have disrupted commerce and the supply of labour. " "There is evidence of some "Brexit remorse" among the British public, with some opinion polls suggesting a growing majority of voters now regretted the UK's departure from the EU." "An official forecast by the government's own independent analysts estimates that the new UK-EU trading relationship will "reduce long-run productivity by 4% relative to remaining in the EU"." "2022 has brought a slew of reports indicating that the UK has underperformed since the onset of the pandemic, compared to its peers." "In fact, several reports have detailed a steep fall in UK-EU imports and exports, with many particularly smaller companies stopping cross-Channel trade altogether." "Some reports said the damage began even before the UK actually left the EU, a fall in the pound in the wake of the Brexit referendum causing import prices to rise in particular." So mostly economic stuff and false promises.
@@NephritduGrey oh, yes, because immigration restriction is such a horrible thing increasing the supply of labor in order to decrease the native populations. Wages is just wonderful.
"Having an actual plan deflects everyone from the real question wether to stay or leave"... What kind of logic is that? It's like asking: "Are you with me or against me.... decide now" - "What is that actually about?" - "Don't deflect, just say yes or no". So he directly admits that people essentially should not think about the implications and just listen to the hype they put up. "Please, don't dig too deep, it may just confuse you....". Richard Dawkins was absolutely right in saying that decision shouldn't be a 50:50 decision. Such essential decisions which have implications that lasts for decades if not centuries and many generations should have at least a 2/3. 98% of the people voting had not the slighest clue what that actually means... And that includes those who started it.... When the most "googled" thing in the UK after brexit was "What is the EU?" speaks volumes. Richard Dawkins on Brexit ruclips.net/video/pe4feBH0ABk/видео.html
He's not entirely wrong, such political debates can Easily get derailed by the most irrelivant aspect of the plan which could be changed on a whim (or if new data is being presented) being latched onto, drowing out all well reasoned debate about other, more significant aspects, and it's frequently in the best interest of an opponent to Do that, which is Highly undesireable if you actually think your position has merit. ... Which isn't to say he's right or justified regarding anything else, at all, nor that the problems with the argument are invalid, just that this point is slightly less nonsensicle than it initially appears.
I'm French and I don't see anything bad happening, I think the protests give an impression that it's always like that. We have growth, green policies and reindustrialisation on a small scale under Macron
@@sambones1092 You also have a church burnt down a week from all the people in your country illegally. Not to mention that the EU representative during the Brexit talks was French, went in to the talks pro EU, and left the talks wanting France to also leave.
"A victory for xenophobia and bigotry! A victory for those who blame their lack of education, motivation and talent on people who speak with funny accents taking their jobs!"
I thankfully emigrated to Australia in 2015 before the insanity started. It is funny how every single Aussie was keen to tell me in 2016 that the UK leaving the EU was madness. They were on the other side of the planet and could see what the majority of English voters couldn’t.
Aussie here, can confirm. WTF were those idiots thinking? Oz TV amused itself on the announcement day by announcing all of the companies planning to leave Britain.
This is one of the first channels I followed on youtube (and I've been here since the beginning), the "why do people laugh at creationists" got me hooked, and since then its all been about cutting through bullshit. I have yet to see a video I dont agree with, but if that time ever comes, I will seriously have to question if I'm wrong. Its also kinda depressing when you realize just how much bullshit there is out there in the world. From religion to bogus inventions and frauds to politics...
How can you possibly, as a country, decide to leave the largest trading union in the world, and then come back the next week expecting to get a better deal with all those countries independently? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Bottom line here is the blame ultimately resides with David Cameron as he did give us a referendum, but never put anything in place to have every item released by either the 'Remain' or 'Leave' camps fully fact checked and verified before it was published. If he had, the result would have been very different.
@@snex000 yeah and pay a shitload of taxes and paperwork fees. You do know the UK is already backtracking on a lot of cuts they made to commercial deals with the EU, right? Otherwise your businesses will keep sinking.
@@eldorado3523 Huh? Who says you have to do any of that? Just trade with whoever you want to. What's the problem? Or are you telling me that the EU and their burdensome rules are in fact bad for the economy?
As an outsider, Brexit was a baffling thing to behold. And then a few months later, the US went ahead and chose Donald Trump as its leader. Both were terrible decisions, but I wonder which one will have done the most harm long term.
What truly infuriates me is that politicians never have to take responsibility or face the consequences of their action... They can just shrug their shoulders and opt out.
In the committees finding about his lies to parliament, they figured he lied to them in his oral evidence. Evidence he gave to them under oath. With penalties of perjury. He should be pursued for this.
@@rudysmith1552 How so? It has only led tore refugees because the EU doesn’t care much about people who is only passing through - and part of the trade deals the UK can get with most Asian countries will demand citizens getting access to the UK….
I can still remember the debate between Phil and Sargon before the referendum. Sargon had not a single argument which wasn't based on tabloid BS stories about how bad the EU is. I am ashamed that I had a little bit of respect for Sargon at that time which was before he became a total "110% red-pilled rightwing cringe lord", but that was gone after this debate.
The EU is complete trash. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomacy, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
I remember that debate. Most telling part was when sargon complained about how bad eu regulations are for the uk and when Thunderf00t asked him to just cite one he couldn´t do it. Literally zero substance to his beliefs.
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Can't express more gratitude for the content you produce, always seeing through the BS and focusing on the true fact of the matter.
Alot of us voted out just to take our boarders out the hands of the E.U. along with leaving we needed someone to clamp down on the boarders as a leader. But we don't seem to ever get one and doesn't look like we ever will.
On another note, I was just in Spain for 2 weeks there. Everything was FAR more expensive than it is here. By a long shot too.
Integrity means sticking to what a sober analysis of data says, regardless of the popularity of that analysis.
Thunderfoot doesn't play favourites. That's all you cant ask for today, really.
Jolly good bloke, regardless of what the ideological, political and cult-of-personality following extremists say
@@eddiebear34 Really , I live there , would say its about 40% cheaper than UK .Im back in UK , prices here are horrendous
@davidturner6995 where do you live over there, and where are you in the UK?
I live in Scotland, and wad over in salou. I lived in salou for a year, 20 year ago. I'd have said it wad around 40% cheaper than the UK then. But this time it was definitely the opposite way around
@@eddiebear34 In Brum at the mo , live in outside Alicante . 500 ml can of IPA is 90 p , just back from Tesco 300 ml can 150 p .Decent bottle of wine 4 pounds . Strip of pork fillet to feed 4 , about 4 pounds
I live in Japan. My company sent me to the UK Embassy in Tokyo to attend an economic conference. Basically, speakers were saying the UK was the gateway of choice for the European market. This was was years before the vote. When I asked the speakers during the open mic session about the EU skeptic movement in the UK, I was laughed at. I told to my managers to better focus on other European countries or at least diversify their partnership throughout Europe.
They didn’t listen. I left for another reason (boredom). The managers retired since and the company’s market share went to shit.
Sounds like a “I told you so!”?moment but many people saw it coming.
I should also point that most of the UK expats pro Brexit were also pro Trump for some reason.
UK, still wish you the best.
This Will never happened in the past, only in the social media era,were people became dum and the lies become trues
I worked with the embassies in Tokyo too - I was in Tokyo when Bill Gates had to leave after arriving because there was an earthquake warning. XD I am hoping the UK can form a closer relationship with Japan now that we are out of the EU and joining the CPTPP. ^^
@@rubix4195 The pill Japan doesn't want to take is their real saviour will be China. They are about to spiral out of control, and still have a little time to course correct, but that unfortunate Japanese pride won't let them.
Also it's sad that those who make the mistakes just step out the side door when it all goes tits up. We have a guy like that here and his failures after his retirement will take years to undo.
Tell me about it. Typical dollar sign in eyes eats brainz situation. Strategic management taking out the "Strategic" part.
Weird coincidence, LOL
As an Irish man, listening to the brits talking about independence day and all that shite, it makes me smile
Same, as an aussie
@@__beer__why?
Oh please, you guys want your welfare without the British you’ll be homeless
@ZwiftyZwifter Well, they're saying this is their independence day, as if they were colonised! I'm sure you're aware of their colonial history that includes Australia
@@__beer__ Since he's an Irishman, I'm sure he's well aware of how shite it is to be invaded and have your lands & wealth stolen by the English with no recompense. Of course he's probably white so nobody cares.
I would have to say though, the Aboriginal Australians really did get fucked over hard, and are still being fucked over hard.
Saved 350 million in one hand, lost a few billions in the other.
Success 😙👌
Gotta spend money to make money!
@@luchighwalker4108 had the UK remain the bill would be 190 billion to pay to the EU, due to their massive spending during covid. and their "collective recovery plan" even now the EU are begging for more funding... Finland only yesterday said no more money to go to the EU . Poland is calling an referendum and Germany is in recession. German industry shutdown and will likely never recover
@@MinkieWinkle didn't the UK also spend tons of money during the pandemic? All of Europe is in recession (and has been since Covid). You just can't spend yourself out of a recession by borrowing money.
how much is your soul worth?
Slavery is always free… where as freedom is earned. The slave says let the masters give me UBI and health care..
The free man says no chains no gods.
The brexit "debate" you had with sargon was the exact point when I realized what a colossal tool that man was. His willingness to casually shrug off every logical argument you provided with absolutely no response of his own beyond mindlessly parroting Farage's narrative showed me exactly what little overlap there was between the foundational beliefs of his that he claimed he represented and what he actually represented.
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No seriously, I want to watch that but my internet search skills are poor.
I'm going to type sargon thunderfoot into RUclips but if that doesn't work if anyone could help, thanks.
Pretty much Sargon's whole brexit videos were a wake up call. He unironically said that he wouldn't mind going threw a 10 year long recession because he believed it would be better afterwards. 10 years is a long time!
and who is sargon the fool?
@@rchristie5401Sargon of Akkad , got his start doing things similar to tf but a fair bit more ideological in practice. He's one of those individuals who is smart enough to make good points, but when you take a good hard squint it breaks down.
Similarly disillusioned with Sargon. For me it was the illegal migrant/refugee debate. His rhetoric focuses only on middle-eastern muslim men and 'grooming rings' while ignoring a buddist that over stayed his student visa from south-eastern Asia that raped boys.
His song and dance only has one tune.
Thanks Thunderf00t for being a beacon of sanity all these dark years!
Amen!
Same guy who said the whuhan lab leak was a conspiracy theory. Just saying
Tunderbutt
@@Smiffls Excuse me ?
@@PutsOnSneakersI think he meant tender butt, you know from all the butt hurt he’s feeling 😅
I liked idea of BREXIT so much I left early (the UK that is). Now live in Ireland.
Céad mile failte
Wise move.
Brexiting the Brexiteers. Now that was next level thinking.
A win win
Good. Please stay there.
One of the best I told you sos I've seen in recent years. I get this warm, fuzzy feeling, when idiots are proven wrong. 😊
well said.
Never heard of either 'confirmation bias' or 'self fulfilling prophesy' then?
Brexit was exactly the right thing for this country and only needed the right people in place to deliver - which we've never had!
48.3% of the country told them so and i was one of them and now its all gone to shit because of them
@@zistrozer4101 So in a democracy you think that they should have gone for what the minority - only 48.3% wanted?
@@paulsinclair3401Democracy doesn't mean that you suicide your country because it's the popular meme of the year. That's just insanity and why modern "democracy" fails when faced with leeches and ticks like Boris Johnson and other conservatives.
You need to have other systems in place to ensure political stability and clean out this infestation once in awhile.
Going back and looking at that Sargon debate is very funny
Looking at Sargon in general is funny
Looking at you socialists/communists is funny…
@@EcceHomo1088 YOU CANT THINK THUNDERFOOT IS A SOCIALIST LMAO
Economy still growing. The climate hysteria is putting up your energy bills which thunderfoot is in favor of
@@DrJams [citation needed]
Enjoy your "I told you" moment, these feel good
Doesn't feel good in the UK, mortgage payments have doubled in some cases, prices for everyday products have increased and taxes have gone up while wages in the private sector have not increased with inflation. I don't think we can blame Brexit for all of this when we see the same problems happening across the globe but I guess people will believe what they want to believe.
@@anonymouse740increases in price is definitely linked to privatization, especially in the energy sector. Brexit makes it harder to negotiate trades, so smaller supply of natural gas + dependency for gas (due to privatization) = supply shortage.
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 privatisation??? You think privatisation is the cause of gas price increases? Privatisation? Are you absolutely serious? Privatisation???
@@ZwiftyZwifter Do you always ask a question five times? Seems like an exhausting tic.
I (most of the time) agree with what you say. Sometimes I don’t but I always respect the fact that you have an opinion and don’t bend to majority. Continue with your great work!
Some humble pie for me here.
I was one of those at the time who thought it was going to work and unsubscribed for a while.
But I was wrong.
Wtf? They were never going to make it easy for us to leave, Brexit is the only thing the British public can and should be proud of. I don't care if it made me poorer, you don't get benefits for coming out of prison, you get freedom! What you choose to do with it afterwards is down to our pedo politicians unfortunately who are and always will be in bed with the deep state
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Happy Independence Day everyone
As the sun set on the empire, they clutched each other in their spindly, pasty arms as the shadows grew long, then longer...
It's a mournful day - like every battle won is the same as every battle lost - but it was a democratic decision and I do agree with the merit of it. I hoped we would be able to do a lot more within the UK instead of pandering to some kind of international cheerleader when the UK needs to reform internally and politically. It was always predicted that a vote to leave the EU with the UK would be close (It was actually run before) but I think UK politicians on BOTH sides (remain and leave) were insincere in their arguments: neither were looking to adjust the arrangement to suit the UK needs or establish where the future for the UK actually is. Rather keeping the status quo - which affected the disenfranchised politically mainly - the career politicians didn't understand the electorate and failed to deliver a compelling argument to leave against someone who - even the Remainers admitted that - was a powerful orator and debater and, since the formation of the Common Market, was able to explain to the electorate that the EU had moved beyond it's original goal. For the price of our freedom, the Remainers simply have to wait and laugh at our failings but, for the UK, it's time to question what our future really is and realise who we are leaving the EU. Brexit is not the end or the beginning of anything for the UK - it's the UK realising that something isn't right with how we are now. Channels that are pro/anti Brexit ignore the point but, for me, it was our generation's English Civil War and it's time to reconcile.
People will follow you, if you tell them what they want to hear. But if it isn't based on reality, but emotions instead, their speeches will age like milk.
And I love how your videos are so humorous in a way that is informative at the same time.
If people acted rationally, instead of emotionally, they would come to better conclusions, but we wouldn't have these funny videos.
Oh I knew there must be someone who likes his sense of humor. Didn't know it was you, though.
@@wassollderscheiss33 Sometimes I can't even tell if the humor is intentional or if it comes naturally with the situation hahaha
We are ignoring the real reason this happened breaks. It was a plea from Anglo-Saxons to reclaim their country. As much as the people want to feel civilized deep down, they couldn’t say it, but it was about immigration. How many people would’ve tolerated it if it meant emigration
@@rudysmith1552 immigration kept your economy afloat you idiot. You look at any developed country and you see that immigration is literally a response to native people working more high end jobs and not having kids and thus not supporting the social systems in place, aside from gaps in low end jobs that are still needed. Brexit doesn't fix a societal problem of this type, it's just gonna make it worse.
@@eldorado3523 counterexample Japan they make the best cars in the world as far as reliability. Their media is far superior to the vast majority of western media. They have more multimedia influence in any continental European country when it comes to international appeal. Oh and they have lower crime rates than England, or the United States.
That people - actual adults - heard "300 million pounds" and thought "yeah thats a lot for a country, if we had that amount, we would actually use it for the people" xD
yeah throwing numbers around makes no sense.
there are more then 50m ppl living in england, so each spend 6€ a day to be part of the eu club.
@@robinspanier7017 UK got more out than it put in.
@@yeetyeet7070 It objectively did not in any way. The UK was a net contributor.
I'm not sure if any other human has continuously failed upward as well as Boris did.
The Donald, The Trump...
@@Confucius_Says... musk
@@DrWhom ABSOLUTELY ‼️‼️🤣
I've never seen the Thunderf00t vs Sargon Debate on Brexit. I'm gonna watch it right now! Should be a great laugh!
In short Thunderf00t mentioned it's a stupid idea while Sargon would be on something we would call "Copium" though I guess it was a bit before so maybe "Hopium"?
@@marktyler3381huff more of that copium; surely it’ll make you look less like a moron
@@NephritduGrey I mean Sargon in general has a huge ego. He just generally believes he's an intellectual which is usually a bad sign your pride blinds you of.
@@Skylancer727 Yeah, the famous (or infamous) Dunning-Kruger Effect can be quite strong in some people.
Sad part was though he was more correct than not in the "good old" "This week in stupid" (or how the series was called).
Or rather I could agree more with what he said back then but afterwards it went downhill and for Brexit really fast down the drain.
@@Skylancer727
It took some time for me to realise that he is a rather unintelligent and uneducated man who learnt to take in a fancy way.
I'm not proud of that.
Farage did make a good point though. No longer being able to blame everything on Brussels certainly has shown just how utterly useless our politicians are. Up here in Scotland we have the SNP trying to pull the same stunt but with the UK....
But at least it's british politicians making bad decisions rather than some random un-elected individual making decisions for them. Imagine some american politician telling Scotland what to do and how to do it.
@@nemonucliosis
Except... you know... the fact that the people in Brussels _are_ in fact elected? You know, via the EU parliament elections that are held once every 5 years? Like the last one was in 2019 and the next one will be in 2024?
F me, I wish people would hust stop this lie about how the EU is made up of "unelected-herp-di-derp". 😑
@@nemonucliosis,truly your own politicians screwing you over is SO much better than others doing it?Its not like the result is the same
God, that was a grim morning to hear the news announcing Brexit.
Thunderfoot be dropping "this aged well" videos, even though the people involved would want you to forget about it already. So mean 🦖
This socialist/communist rhetoric is exactly why you needed this…
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@@EcceHomo1088
Buddy doesnt have a clue what socialism/communism is xD
@@zaarkeru3391 Just shooting some buzzwords into the blue, in hope people will get offended or something. Hahahaha
@@EcceHomo1088 Thundeff00t is definitely not a communist.
In Denmark there has been a lot of skepticism of the EU, and rightfully so, but even those of us who aren't happy with everything the EU does can still recognize, that leaving would be worse.
Free trade and free flow of labour is simply a benefit for everyone and it was so obvious from the start, that there was no way Brexit was going to do anything positive.
Honestly, I think brexit has made a lot of similar thoughts and voices outside of Britain quiet down in the aftermath, at least temporarily
problem is the longer you stay the more centralized bodies with tie you down
Mate! Can you point me to where I can get the animation of your profile pic? It's the one where he mashes his hands in to blood doing pointless busywork? I had a job like that once and my boss sent me that on an email shortly before we both left. 😂
if your Denmark had the euro I would have gone on holiday there this year. now i'm going to portugal because im don't feel like exchanging money
well it means denmark is smarter that England.
I will admit I don't really follow UK politics. However there was one thing that led me to believe Brexit was a terrible Idea. The Russian GRU groups Fancy Bear and Sandworm were putting on a campaign in support of it. There seemingly was only one reason to support it. If it weakened the EU so they couldn't compete as effectively with Russian interest. The same reason those same groups put on a campaign to support Trump in the US.
Yep. Good point.
as the UK was sending weapons to Ukraine while the EU was till worrying about their gas imports that worked out well for the Russians did it not?
as they say: cui bono?
The question should not be' Was brexit a mistake ? ' or 'Who is to blame ? ' but who benefited from it and who lost the most and why .
Ah the classic conspiracy theory approach of the nutcase.
While otherwise Hanlon's razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
But "follow the money" ... surely. You will end up in someones rectum. Maybe in your own! **facepalm**
who benefited from it? -> ppl with money/lobiists/politicians . Why ? For lobiists Brussle is like an auktion , every one wants something to get done and all the decissions have more interrestgroups . So why try to compeed wiht lobiists from other nations when you just want influence in one nation. Get out of the EU and the bidding on the powerauction is gone . Just another monday in the office and only our interrests for the government.
who lost the most and why? -> Joe Doe because the millions of smal pockets always pay the bill.
if you got better answers comment down below .
You're silly. That's three questions.
Freedom isn't free
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And Brexshit isn’t freedom!
COVID has completely wrecked my sense of the passage of time. Or perhaps entering my 30's has done so. I can't believe it's been 7 years
It took them so long to actually trigger article 50, then the negotiations etc. that it does seem like they just left.
It gets worse as you get older. You'll one day realize some of your favorite music or movies are over 20 years ago. When that happens, you'll know you're old
As a Hungarian I am jealous of having interviews confronting politicians. In here we see 99%+ politician caressing by comfortable questions. For the government they have only one event where journalists may ask questions, with little or no chance to have conversations at all.
That is all over the world. Government is just one large scam to milk the people who actually work to exist.
Well they pretty much own the news outlets there. Also very high risk involved to report on cleptocracy, a real arises to keep passing the open windows.
As a German who moved to the UK after Brexit, thanks to all those lads the british company that hired me now has to pay £9,000 in fees to the government just so they are allowed to hire me, certainly an outstanding move to help the economy grow.
Wtf? What?
@@nowonmetube think he's referring to the fact that foreign workers should now pay their NHS fees for the duration of their contract in advance of their hiring, and usually companies will cover for that. But I may as well be wrong!
@@furtall If the UK has gone like the US there'll be a load of fees for immigration lawyers who put together all the paperwork to get a work visa. And then there'll be the cost of the visa itself. And if they pay relocation there'll be more costs involved with customs paperwork for moving belongings to a 3rd country. It's remarkably expensive.
@@furtall The health surcharge is only a small part of the total, most of it is comprised of a general license fee for the company, only to be allowed to hire foreigners in the first place. They also then need a additional license for every foreigner they hire, oh and then obviously the fees for the visa.
tories are great at tax hikes that aren't called taxes
There is an ancient "Yes, Prime Minister" episode where Hacker (successfully) used EU regulations about British Sausage for political gain. Once again, the show's writers were prophetic about the nature of politics & short term thinking.
Gosh, you’d be hard pressed to have watched Yes Prime Minister and come out with a positive view of the EU.
@@ZwiftyZwifter The show always portrayed the EU as a useless bureaucracy. What made the episode funny was how Hacker used a trivial matter over sausage ingredients for popularity points.
@@nicholashylton6857 yes. Indeed. Because it tells a story. Like the banana bendiness. People made much of the fact that the EU doesn’t in fact regulate the bendiness of bananas sold in the EU. Making Brexiteers seem like easily duped fools. Though they do regulate the bendiness of bananas imported to the EU. Who’s the fool?
@@ZwiftyZwifterBrexshitters, obviously.
@@Thiesi good point
I love I told you so videos. Arrogance might not be a virtue but it is satisfying! Hate the circumstances though.
What do you think was proven here?
@@ZwiftyZwifterthat Brexit was in fact, dumb and bad.
@@JMD501 which bit did you think was the best evidence? If you’ve got a time stamp that’s be great.
@@ZwiftyZwifter 1:13
@@redpenink12 You sir/madam just pwned @ZwiftyZwifter)
So much for being united.
Come on Luv, move to the Netherlands. We've been united for centuries, hell, we even speak your language (poorly).
By this time you might need a visa. Sorry about that, we wouldn't want any pesky gold-seeking-refugees over on our knack of the -woods- continent.
The United states of Europe. Sounds like somthing was being formed under your noses.
United in regret?
@@nicholashylton6857 united by the sword in most cases.
The "United" in United Kingdom only means that these three nations - England, Scotland and Wales (Northern Ireland became part of The U.K. in 1921 according to what I've read) - are operating under a common series of laws and forms of governance in accordance to a unionizing agreement set up in the early 17th century.
Thank you for your sanity. A beacon. A lighthouse.❤🎉
End the UK and let Westminster burn. It's time Wales went it alone and without another country like England always cause economic pain to us
1:10 how is that not taking back control? Whereas before as EU members the UK didn't have meaningful discretion over its EU migration policy now it does. Large net migration figures recently are a reflection of govt policy and somewhat anomalous given a not inconsiderable amount of those coming to the UK were made up of Ukrainian refugees and people from Hong Kong. Fundamentally flawed thinking there in thinking control begets a lower net migration outcome - not necessarily the case.
"ThIs WaSnT tHe BrExIt I vOtEd FoR" 🤡🤡🤡
Imagine the novelty of globalist politicians selling their nation down the river. Lets laugh at the peasants
… when you have conservatives pass it… and liberals trying to wreck it… what do you expect?
@@EcceHomo1088Hmm, I missed where the Liberals won the election and were in power for these 7 years.
@@EcceHomo1088 Conservatives wreck everything just fine on their own.
I doubt anybody in the 60s would vote for modern London either. What they voted for is emigration away from Britain
Well, you managed to completely predict this one too, I will admit, I was entirely wrong about Brexit being a good idea. >.< Gosh what a moronic decision
Gotta give you props for admitting you were wrong.
And now the UK is fucked for an entire generation. Tehe ooopsie.
If there's one positive you can take, it's that it should be the slap to the face you need to see that politics matters, and casting an informed vote matters. And has consequences.
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz I mean, part of being a grown up means admitting mistakes, and brexit was a mistake, my predictions were off entirely.
@@rambysophistry1220 Agreed and yet it seems very rare these days so I think it's always worth highlighting the people who are capable of such introspection.
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz Well, I appreciate it, thank you. I hope to learn from this and be less of an arsehole in the future about things like Brexit.
Thunderf00t was so in favour of leaving the EU he Brexited to the other side of the world.
Didn't Sargon get a free milkshake out of this?
#silverlinings
And some fish
there's a tangible Brexit benefit!
I don't mean to stifle the topic, but I'm sure I speak for many:
Waiting for your "Titan submersible implosion" video asap.
Wasn't that posted earlier yesterday?
@@VariantAEC I hope to see a full analysis now that we have confirmed an implosion. On the main channel too, you know, for views 😅
The owner of the company was a raging leftist, would be interesting to see if Thunderpuss's bias will allow him to criticize it at all.
Calling scientists idiots on ploitics and being pro Brexit really aged well.
Top tier comments
still pro brexit
@@graveperil2169 still a proud moron, nice
@@graveperil2169 There is a solid argument that the UK should never have joined the EU in the first place.
There is no such argument for leaving. Only delusional idiocy, at best. (reasons for the general public voting in favour mostly amount to ignorance and gullability.)
When you look at what the UK has done that the EU was previously preventing them from doing, the length of the list of 'things that are actively detrimental to the average citizen that EU law would have prevented' is a hell of a lot longer than the list of 'things that are in any way beneficial to the average citizen that EU law would have prevented'. ... now, the list of things that are beneficial to large (often multinational) corporations that EU law would have prevented and British law doesn't is somewhat longer.
@@laurencefraser EU law no longer applies to the UK only UK law if the citizens dont like it they will change the government and change the laws
Scientists generally aren't experts on politics, but barely >>>anyone
From Thund3rcuck to thunderight. Niice job
Backbone wins. Good on you Mr Thunder
I am pretty sure it is Dr. F00t, Thunder is his first name.
Thank you for your time and effort, always excited to see you post
What an absolutely unpredictable tragedy. Such a shame that this could not have been foreseen...
It was forseen!!! It was predictable. The majority would not listen. They believed con men. It means they are gullable.
@@rchristie5401
He was being sarcastic
@@rchristie5401ut they said they weren't lying! Surely we can believe them, look as they say strong words in expensive suits and with flapping jowls! I'm voting for that guy!
Love your content, always keeping the world a sane place.
What content? This isn't content it's a promotion for some other content.
@@matthewtalbot-paine7977 sure it is. Promotion for what? The only thing being promoted here is the failure of Brexit lol
Wow, so it turns out that cutting ties with the largest economic union in the world ended up being a bad decision? Who'd a thunk it?
Post-purchase rationalisation is definitely a thing.
The beauty of people always trusting what politicians tell them.
I think for myself, that's why I always repeat the same shit the other free thinkers are saying!
@@noname7271 Nice joke
@@gafrers I wish I was joking. This is basically how the modern manosphere works. All the trash connected to Shapiro, Yuanopoulos, Peterson, the Q-anon anti-vaxx anti-LGBT nutters are very similar. I'm not sure what to refer to these people as, they don't really have a name just a Venn diagram.
i remember when femminists all dropped down like vultures on Thunderfoot for him being a mysoginist, he took it like a champ and thunderstood for it. Well, he is still here, yet people like Anita are forever gone. Hope Elon goes down as well.
It's a shame that cretin Sargon is still around. At least I think he is. Can't bring myself to even look him up. Don't want his filth being picked up by the algorithm.
Anita's gone?
Anita is still around. you can book her for an inspiring talk.
She's not available for gang bangs, though, at least I have not heard back from her.
@@DrWhom lol sure she has her followers, like any other cult, but she has no real power, not being invited anywhere etc. I havent heard of her for years in any media tbh.
That helicopter on Mars is still flying to this day. 👍
Which is exactly what he said.
@@emilsinclair4190 Actually this is exactly what he said I've left a link. Of course he was 100% percent right thats why I left the comment
Independence requires a bit of self reliance.
It seems people do believe food grows on shops' shelves.
@@globalist1990 independance doesn t mean autarky
Always entertaining, LOL!
Thanks!
"You shouldn't have a political opinion!" a.k.a. "I don't want to consider your opinion, I want to affirm mine without thinking about what I'm supporting!"
The incompetence of British politicians is striking me. And I'm already used to our utterly incompetent politicians in Germany.
Analina 360
0:45 "Our politicians are about as useless as the commissioners in Brussels are."
Thanks for admitting your own uselessness, Garage.
They are in fact very useful. To BlackRock, JPMorgan, GoldmanSachs, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.
Frankly, that's giving the UK poltiicians far too much credit.
We salute all the brave brexiteers for their help strengthening Europe. It's very much appreciated.
In a serious note, I feel for you and hope all goes well. Greetings from Spain.
i dont feel you fellow brexiteers
As someone from mainland europe, it is very funny to see how the UK takes its place as the fallen empire that it is. Demoted to not even a regional power.
The UK, literally the only nation on Earth with global power projection besides the USA?
Excellent. Subbed
I remember watching this vote from here in the States because even though it was a slim chance I had a feeling that the UK was going to screw everything up
I remember the New Yorker had a satire piece about this theme that ended with the thought that Americans can laugh for once... at least until they elect Trump.
@@forthrightgambitia1032 It's cyclical, they elect Trump but then we elect Johnson. It would be nice if we could just enjoy a good laugh at each other for more than 5 minutes before getting egg on our faces.
@@forthrightgambitia1032 Pork Markets! 😆😆😆
@@MegaTerryNutkins no, democracy is cyclical. Last I checked the UK had a king
Heh, I remember this and I remember sharing your opinion. I can't wait for this.
Also: You can schedule the livestream now, have this as a "trailer for it" on the same page. (Users can then click on the notification button to receive a notification taking them directly to the livestream once it starts. Usually takes between 5 to 10 minutes to push the notification to everyone.)
I nearly lost it when I found out that Boris Johnston just made up the outlandish ‘facts’ about the EU - is it too late to have another vote?
I still remember your debate against Sargon of Akkad and a couple of his moronic lackeys. I particularly remember one spineless invertebrate who's argument against staying in EU was "Russia does not like it so we too should leave or we get attacked like Ukraine was". I think he was Romanian but I dont remember his name / nick nor do I care. Anyhow those debates to me showed like nothing else how few actual arguments, or actual facts, brexit crowd had. It was beyond pathetic. Back then brexiters were "destroyed with FACTS and LOGIC" and now they are being destroyed by consequences. Even if they came to their senses and changed their minds, consequences are here to stay.
It doesn't really matter if brexit was a mistake or not, what matters is the amazing ability of humans, individually or in groups, to convince themselves that their choices were the right ones. The innate ability to justify our own existence.
Letting others control you is never the right choice.
@@snex000 says the dude living in a society where 99% of the population is controlled in one way or the other. Doesn't London have literal CCTV cameras at every corner of a street? In what way was Europe controlling the UK, if anything Brexit proves you weren't being controlled, a shit decision like that would trigger the "controlling EU politicians" to stop it at any cost not to lose a major EU component to a bunch of idiots.
Look at London I’m pretty sure Britain was the gutter before this vote
@@snex000then why are you living under a government?
@@snex000well letting you driving recklessly is definitely the wrose choice thank you
It took several decades for British people to realise the increasing power grabbing dangers of the E.U. ;
Loss of their borders, sovereignty, law making etc.. Somebody with clout to force a vote and surprising the upper classes, the average citizen vote leave.
What happened next was those in power who could oppose the will of the people threw spanners in the works to the point we had a hung parliament for months, 20 ish M.P.'s crossed the floor whatever their constituents thoughts (all lost their seats at the next election), the Voters have become more sure of leaving the now more E.U.S.S.R. than before 2016.
The brexit party M.E.P.'s result forced May's resignation..
Boris promised to 'get it done' so the brexit party stood down candidates against every sitting tory M.P. in the country_ (I expect you forgot that- it wont happen again)
After that The People gave Boris an 80 seat majority to get it done, STILL proving their wishes on this matter_
Boris b/sh1tted and signed a bad deal, that was only an adjusted May surrender treaty (but it was a start)
Since then, Boris has been ousted in a coup over the presentation of a CAKE (which by then the general populace gave not a flying fxck about and likely wouldnt have at the time cos we 'followed the science' and made our own health risk judgements)
Sunak (no mandate) has taken over and cancelled all red tape reductions to keep us in line with the E.U. (s.s.r.)
When you get to the bottom of this yt vid you are praising your calls earlier saying you were correct; brexit was a bad (or wrong) vote and a failure.
But there cannot be a 'bad' (or wrong) vote result; only one you disagree with.
You claim to be a man of science and we acknowledge your mildly over avg, I.Q. but you do not accept this un-scientific concept (one vote per person) or the math ('LEAVE' won?)
Brexit is being resisted at every level of gov. influence, Brexit has barely started yet.
(might take more than one g.election for the bbc watching grandparents to wake up or be replaced with people who dont watch MSM)
Until then we are stuck in BRINO_
Yet you shout its a failure and you were correct all along ..
(where do you live again? do you tell U.S. citizens they made the wrong call with the civil war or is that 'DIFFERENT'?? THINK HARD ABOUT THAT.)
Stick to slating Elon, TF.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS you are just chirping a load of told you so bollox and have little knowledge of the intracacies.
I don't know sh!t about Brexit, but Thunderpuss also lied about Covid-19 and American politics, both of which he has been proven dead wrong about.
@@herrschaftg35 You dont need to know much about 'Brexit' except the United Kingdom joined the 'EEC' - a European 'common market' (like the CANZUK deal, or other free trade area) in the mid 1970's, and since then, Prime ministers John Major and Gordon Brown signed the Maastricht and Lisbon treaty's, effectively making the United Kingdom a 'state' of the European Union (like Texas is a 'state' but without the state law making absolute ability)
Now those 2 prime ministers did not ask the people, and as time went on it became obvious what is now the
'E.U.' has become the E.U.S.S.R.
It gets worse cos they deal in bad faith.
If you agree to let a few boats fish your seas they will take all the fish and land them for processing on mainland europe taking more jobs, they will bribe the heavy industry manufacturers to move to mainland eu taking their plants away from the u.k. , bribe U.K. farmers to grow nothing- ( how that works? more processing, manufacturing and shipping work lost to the e.u. and Brit shoppers pay a lot more) the list is endless_
They (did and still do) want control of the U.K.'s armed forces. (despite only GREECE also contributing 2% GDP to NATO, and we hope Greece fxcking leave the E.U.S.S.R. too cos we can talk to our allies in Greece and the E.U. countries as war allies always will be USELESS SKINFLINT COWARDS.)
Everything from the weights and measures allowed on a fruit stall and how many degrees a banana can be bent were set by Brussels and we gave them roughly 8 billion a year for that.
So the U.K. leaving the E.U. was a bit like the states civil war kicking out the Brits (no taxation without representation, cos the E.U. parliament is a joke, the M.E.P.'s get to propose nothing, just a chance they can slow things down and prevent another Lefty atrocity_ )
Covid 19 is a bit beyond Thunderfoots experience and common sense;
Surprise surprise it WAS a manmade virus (lab near epicenter; rocket science?)
Masks were 'almost' ineffectual, can slow moisture spread from breath a bit)
The jabs are worthless since omicron but were always riskier for the healthy under 65's..
(I will admit the U.S. has a problem with obese people who might be better off with a jab, which has influenced advice from the CDC to 'ordinary' people but many are so fat the CDC is failing the people in the first place.)
We dunno about U.S. politics except Trump will do the job and not take the presidential salary, while 'The Big Guy' and his Son would hand the nuclear football over to a Thai ladyboy for 1/2 a gram of coke and a blow job.
I scrolled back to your first video "LIAR LIAR LIAR!" Sincere congrats on more than a decade and a half of making clueful/thoughtful/useful videos ... have greatly enjoyed it. Thanks. Cheers
Thank you for your content. 👍
I am American, so naturally I have no idea what happens out side the U.S. but I am here to say, keep pouring lemon juice into those paper cuts
What do you mean "naturally"
Speak for yourself.
Not all of America.
@@asbestosfibers1325 I bet your fun at parties.
@JulianUccetta I bet your a pushover that let's people speak for them.
What are you talking about? What is this "outside" you speak of?
@@asbestosfibers1325 idk, maybe. But at least I'm not taking jokes at face value.... Or am I... 🤔
Bosses don’t like it when plebs act up.
The Brexit "I didn't vote for" seems to be the main the main theme in the brexit... Now if somebody had said what would entail for the Britons.
Well, that and an awful lot of people who are upset about it weren't actually old enough to vote in the referendum, but absolutely Were old enough to vote in subsequent elections.
If we lay every ill at the door of Bexit, we'll fail to fully analyse other significant causal factors of those ills and just spiral round and round. Given the choice of respecting a referendum or ignoring it, we should choose the former every time; let's try to make it work, given that it's where we are, out. Perhaps the pro EU side has to ask how the hell were we so complacent and/or unable to articulate our case. It is somewhat late to keep making it now.
Most of the problem was that the entire referendum was expected to fail on its own merits, due to being a very dumb idea. (The ignorance, gulliblity, and idiocy of the general public were underestimated).
In the aftermath, a non-terrible brexit was Possible... but the incompitence of the political class as a whole in that regard was... impressive.
@@laurencefraser If the voters are idiots and the political classes are incompetent, who does that leave on the other side of the intellectual fence?
That's what it was! I had a nagging feeling all day today (22 June) that tomorrow is significant somehow. I just couldn't figure out what it was.
Thunberg predicted the end of the world for yesterday in 2018. Was that it?
@@abumohandes4487 Ther aniversary of the Nazi invasion of the USSR. But who cares, we likle nazis now in Europe so....
It didn’t really change anything.
Silly costume bonus points as follows
Umbrella +1
Bowler Hat +3
Top Hat +5
Pith Helmet +10
Fake Handlebar moustace +5
Real Handlebar moustache +9000
The only time it would be appropriate for Boris Johnson to be on tv would be if he played taskmaster, now that would be hilarious
Turns out paying brüssel some money wasnt as much of a downside compared to what you get in terms of trade n stuff
It seems people forget the basics very easily, like food, where it comes from and how it is produced.
The EU is complete trash tho. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomatic efforts, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market, no effort to solve the cost of living crisis, a dumpster fire of an energetic transition. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean every year !!! (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
actually, a whole lot of that came back in the form of subsidies to areas of the UK that the tories would rather see die
yes, harsh, but that's the long and short of it
Lol. If you officially leave the EU and then don't practically, isn't much of a Brexit is it. That was never the point. European integration and especially NATO are fine and well--let the US pick up most of the bill. Would be idiotic diplomacy to not get along with the EU countries as "peers".
It's the principles of both currency retention and political retention that matter. If the EU (Brussels) or EURO (currency) goes in a terrifying direction which it does from time to time, you are not obligated to follow.
It's an important distinction. By remaining separate you are ensuring you will not be dissolved into a United Europe modeled after the United States. If there is an internal conflict, you don't have to fight a civil war over it. Sure you can lend a hand and do what countries have done for centuries through alliances and treaty but you don't have to fundamentally change your political structure as some of the PIIGS did and still do bowing to the ECB's demands.
The US is stuck. The cities want to be hyper liberal and everywhere else wants to be left alone and not participate in the schemes. There is no recourse for that difference and so hence the nation is very polarized not among state lines, mostly among county lines. All across the US, the rural people don't need or want the drama of the cities. To them, city folk are the crazy ones living on a different planet. I can relate. I've lived both city and rural life. The economics of the dynamic are interdependent especially in this globalized trade world so that's not going away. However, they are starkly different ways of approaching this short time we have in this universe and on this planet.
Farage is a zealot, I'll give you that Philip, but he's not an idiot. He knows exactly what he did and why he spearheaded it thinking many decades into the future.
Let's consider Farage's banking ban from international banking establishments based in the UK. Why did they do that to him? Brussels wouldn't lift a finger to challenge those institutions. Hopefully the UK will but that remains to be seen. Had the UK still been in the EU, the UK couldn't do a whole lot about it. All the final decisions would end up in Brussels about whether to act or not.
In my opinion, banks can do whatever they want but there's a limit to shutting someone out of the financial sphere akin to sanctions. Sanctions are an act of war whether people are so used to it as to not believe it.
I, as a proud member of the EU, thought that it was the dumbest desicion ever to exit it. Not only because I have an Ex who went to a british university and couldn't attend it anymore because of Joris Bohnson, but because the british law is above the EU law in a lot of aspects and it's like being your own CEO and then you pay to leave your own company.
Honestly, Joining the EU (or the entire chain of events to get to that point, it wasn't a single one off decision) was arguably a poor choice for the UK (certainly the way they went about it was Very bad for quite a few members of the Commonwealth)... but Leaving was a substantially worse one.... Even that might have been salvagable (or at least quite a bit less bad) though, if not for the utterly Staggering incompitence of the British political class as a whole when it came to the handling of the whole matter.
@@laurencefraserjoining the EEC soon after the IMF bailed the UK because it's economy was in shambles was a poor decision?
It was called the sick man of Europe for a reason, and the EEC still gave it privileges as if it were an actual powerhouse not a recently bailed our beggar
The UK needed to get into the EEC to see needed increase in its economic potential output, otherwise you'd have been the Argentina of Europe
GDP was up after Brexit.
Despite predictions of a downward trend -4% after Brexit
With Covid and Ukrain War current Problems cant really be pinpointed to Brexit.
Besides it was about independence. How smal people are doing now or how they feel cant be messured in Numbers.
Cuckderbutt was pretty genius tbh
And pretty accurate tbh
If you are 8 y.o. perhaps.
@@soundscape26 Calling people silly names is presidential.
We live in 2023. Go with the times!
Brexit has certainly been a failure but this Tory government has also been an unmitigated disaster in so many ways. So while Brexit has turned into a nightmare, I don't think we can blame it all on Brexit when this government has been steadily destroying this country for over a decade now.
Not one party is capable of leading the country. All of them will continue to walk all over us and force degeneracy and ethnic replacement onto us.
No one in the debate for Brexit, ever addressed the immigration issue outside of Brexit. No one ever addressed the vaguely undemocratic nature of the EU. No one addressed the issues so your failure compounded.
@@rudysmith1552 the EU is just as vaguely undemocratic as every democracy. You get to vote, but lobbies get an office near congress, paliment etc.
The Civil Service and politicians are responsible for this disaster, but mainly the former.
@@Ninjaeule97 The EU is complete trash tho. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomatic efforts, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market, noi effort to solve the cost of living crisis, a dumpster fire of a energetic transition. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean every year !!! (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
There’s no shame in being a part of the 48% who would eventually get to say “I told you so” even if there’s little to no reason to celebrate such foresight. For many it was a referendum on xenophobia as much as anything else and that alone diminishes our stature as any sort of forward-thinking global power.
Finally got the first like and comment
As always keep doing amazing work Thunderf00t
🥈 actually
You win one internet point! [ as we used to say back in 2000 ]
@@awatt that’s 🧢 I commented as soon as the video dropped
@@soundspire360 Just sort by newest first and check the bottom comment?
@@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer both same timestamp
can I join to celebrate our independence from Britain on that day? ;-)
Yes please do; I shall as well 👍
Congratulazioni 🎉
I supported Brexit wholeheartedly. I'm happy with how it turned out. Because I'm not British.
Aged well. OMG.
I wasn't aware Thunderf00t had strong opinions about this issue so long ago! I'm certainly going to tune in for the followup to this video!!
As a Brexiteer I found the remainers to be universally ignorant on virtually anything relevant to the topic. They appeared only concerned with how it would look rather than what it would mean.
@@ZwiftyZwifter projection much?
@@ZwiftyZwifter As a Brexiter, you probably haven't got the first clue about virtually anything related to the topic, unless by "related to the topic" you mean that any kind of real world consequence is irrelevant and all that matters is the symbolic value and the signal sent to the world and the philosophical sense of freedom gained. You know, the old Sargon logic. Fuck the economy, fuck the legalese noise, fuck the practical issues, just give me some abstract notion of freedom that essentially makes life harder in every conceivable way.
Not a single damn pro-Brexit argument was ever based on the merits. It was always, and without exception, turned into a question of emotional value. Take the bullshit 350 million per week. That sounds substantial but it represents a fiction reached through looking at costs divorced from benefits. By the same reasoning, why don't you save bundles by refusing to pay rent? I'll tell you why, because it sucks to be homeless. But that sort of idiocy was literally the most substantive argument the Brexiters had.
The immigration issue? You had control over that already. But why let that stop you lot from drumming up a whole lot of "filthy foreigners" hyper-nationalist zeal, right?
From what I saw about the projected effects, I thought that TF would have a pretty hard time being objective since it looked like it was going to directly effect his work.
@@pansepot1490 no
I'll be there; cannae wait.
I voted to stay. People who voted to leave were fools.
as an European citizen and long time viewer from your amazing channel. Brexit for me was doomed since the start, it was a simple and clear road to disaster. Unfortunately, the people let themselves be carried away by these charlatans. I don't know what to say now. shit is already done. I'll be here for sure, keep up the good work.
Brexit was the last cry from a People going extinct
Don’t expect rationality out of Anglo-Saxons when they are losing their identity and watching everything they built collapse. We ignore the real reason this happened couldn’t be that England had more immigration than the Normandy invasion and the Vikings combined. Rest assured, Brit your country will fall into multiple pieces, and England will compete with the United States to see who the failed state. 2076 will feel like 476.
So is Putin. A European citizen
Why was it doomed?
@@abumohandes4487 move along, troll.
As a Yank ill admit that the mess is lost on me, except for the fact it is a cluster f&#$ of epic proportions. Now what? Closer ties to USA? Most Brits i know hate that almost as much as "kneeling" to Berlin amd Brussels. What a mess.
Some things apparently:
"New border controls and immigration restrictions, the result of the UK's choices, have disrupted commerce and the supply of labour. "
"There is evidence of some "Brexit remorse" among the British public, with some opinion polls suggesting a growing majority of voters now regretted the UK's departure from the EU."
"An official forecast by the government's own independent analysts estimates that the new UK-EU trading relationship will "reduce long-run productivity by 4% relative to remaining in the EU"."
"2022 has brought a slew of reports indicating that the UK has underperformed since the onset of the pandemic, compared to its peers."
"In fact, several reports have detailed a steep fall in UK-EU imports and exports, with many particularly smaller companies stopping cross-Channel trade altogether."
"Some reports said the damage began even before the UK actually left the EU, a fall in the pound in the wake of the Brexit referendum causing import prices to rise in particular."
So mostly economic stuff and false promises.
@@NephritduGrey oh, yes, because immigration restriction is such a horrible thing increasing the supply of labor in order to decrease the native populations. Wages is just wonderful.
@@NephritduGrey sounds like American politics
I agreed with you. They were clearly jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
"Having an actual plan deflects everyone from the real question wether to stay or leave"... What kind of logic is that? It's like asking: "Are you with me or against me.... decide now" - "What is that actually about?" - "Don't deflect, just say yes or no".
So he directly admits that people essentially should not think about the implications and just listen to the hype they put up. "Please, don't dig too deep, it may just confuse you....". Richard Dawkins was absolutely right in saying that decision shouldn't be a 50:50 decision. Such essential decisions which have implications that lasts for decades if not centuries and many generations should have at least a 2/3. 98% of the people voting had not the slighest clue what that actually means... And that includes those who started it....
When the most "googled" thing in the UK after brexit was "What is the EU?" speaks volumes.
Richard Dawkins on Brexit
ruclips.net/video/pe4feBH0ABk/видео.html
He's not entirely wrong, such political debates can Easily get derailed by the most irrelivant aspect of the plan which could be changed on a whim (or if new data is being presented) being latched onto, drowing out all well reasoned debate about other, more significant aspects, and it's frequently in the best interest of an opponent to Do that, which is Highly undesireable if you actually think your position has merit.
...
Which isn't to say he's right or justified regarding anything else, at all, nor that the problems with the argument are invalid, just that this point is slightly less nonsensicle than it initially appears.
is france doing better?
I'm French and I don't see anything bad happening, I think the protests give an impression that it's always like that. We have growth, green policies and reindustrialisation on a small scale under Macron
amazingly, yes, not that you could tell by the moaning
@@sambones1092 You also have a church burnt down a week from all the people in your country illegally. Not to mention that the EU representative during the Brexit talks was French, went in to the talks pro EU, and left the talks wanting France to also leave.
@@cp1cupcake Lol I stopped reading at your church bullshit claim, stop hanging out on 4chan my dude
I can only imagine the rage of the idiots that doubted you, how they must seethe right now 😂😂😂
Nah, they're all probably in denial. These type of folks love doubling down on stupid.
Oh they're coping in the comments. Real hard.
@@sprybug they are still going on about sovereignty and streams of immigrants
They are still waiting for EU to fail.
"A victory for xenophobia and bigotry! A victory for those who blame their lack of education, motivation and talent on people who speak with funny accents taking their jobs!"
I thankfully emigrated to Australia in 2015 before the insanity started. It is funny how every single Aussie was keen to tell me in 2016 that the UK leaving the EU was madness. They were on the other side of the planet and could see what the majority of English voters couldn’t.
Aussie here, can confirm. WTF were those idiots thinking? Oz TV amused itself on the announcement day by announcing all of the companies planning to leave Britain.
This is one of the first channels I followed on youtube (and I've been here since the beginning), the "why do people laugh at creationists" got me hooked, and since then its all been about cutting through bullshit. I have yet to see a video I dont agree with, but if that time ever comes, I will seriously have to question if I'm wrong. Its also kinda depressing when you realize just how much bullshit there is out there in the world. From religion to bogus inventions and frauds to politics...
How can you possibly, as a country, decide to leave the largest trading union in the world, and then come back the next week expecting to get a better deal with all those countries independently? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Bottom line here is the blame ultimately resides with David Cameron as he did give us a referendum, but never put anything in place to have every item released by either the 'Remain' or 'Leave' camps fully fact checked and verified before it was published. If he had, the result would have been very different.
Why do you need "trade deals"? Just trade with who you want.
@@snex000 yeah and pay a shitload of taxes and paperwork fees. You do know the UK is already backtracking on a lot of cuts they made to commercial deals with the EU, right? Otherwise your businesses will keep sinking.
@@eldorado3523 you're telling me that the system is more than than just the EU
@@eldorado3523 Huh? Who says you have to do any of that? Just trade with whoever you want to. What's the problem?
Or are you telling me that the EU and their burdensome rules are in fact bad for the economy?
@@snex000? The eu eliminates countless strategies restrictions and enables the UK to be part of a trading block with actual economic power.
As an outsider, Brexit was a baffling thing to behold. And then a few months later, the US went ahead and chose Donald Trump as its leader. Both were terrible decisions, but I wonder which one will have done the most harm long term.
What truly infuriates me is that politicians never have to take responsibility or face the consequences of their action... They can just shrug their shoulders and opt out.
Or even better: blame someone else like Farage do.
In the committees finding about his lies to parliament, they figured he lied to them in his oral evidence.
Evidence he gave to them under oath.
With penalties of perjury.
He should be pursued for this.
Farage is still present? There's still a fence rail in merry old England? Tar? Feathers?
Sargon buying lots and lots of light bulbs to comfort himself
Actually, I think he’s willing to tolerate Brexit because I got him one step closer to his final goal an Anglo Saxon England.
Hope he's been enjoying all the free milkshakes and kippers
Sargon ov akqunt....
Now there is a name i haven't heard of in a while
@@rudysmith1552
How so?
It has only led tore refugees because the EU doesn’t care much about people who is only passing through - and part of the trade deals the UK can get with most Asian countries will demand citizens getting access to the UK….
I can still remember the debate between Phil and Sargon before the referendum.
Sargon had not a single argument which wasn't based on tabloid BS stories about how bad the EU is. I am ashamed that I had a little bit of respect for Sargon at that time which was before he became a total "110% red-pilled rightwing cringe lord", but that was gone after this debate.
The EU is complete trash. Centralized economic policy, warmonguering, perpetual protection of the establishment, trash diplomacy, trash foreign affairs work, trash migration policies, no anti-inflation policy, no effort to save the gas market. We even let hundreds of thousands of war refugees and migrants to drown at the Mediterranean (should have been ukranian. OOPS, wrong skin colour). Wow Europe, the best choice we ever made.
I remember that debate. Most telling part was when sargon complained about how bad eu regulations are for the uk and when Thunderf00t asked him to just cite one he couldn´t do it. Literally zero substance to his beliefs.