I think it’s awesome that they’re making new teams that only have 1 new character to acquire. Also most of these characters are stale so giving them new purpose is awesome! This is full win!
I did all the math for the stat updates and it actually gives me some hope for the scarlet witch update. At purple 3 / 2 diamond she's gonna have around: 8.5 mil health 531 k damage 185 k armor 118 k focus and resistance I have the rest too if they are still wanted
Only downside for me will be attempting to find the gold to upgrade all these characters. But it’s so nice to see scopely making an attempt at restoring hope in the game
They absolutely did Scarlet Witch dirty by removing the prolonging of negative effects and the unavoidable part from her ultimate. Though, I do have to praise the Dev's for providing notes to give us insight on what they were thinking for making some changes that aren't normally made. Very excited for Immortal X-Men, though.
You would think that there would be actual Chaos in the Chaos Wave. So much opportunity wasted. For example; Flip Positive effects on all Enemies, Remove all negative effects from enemies and reapply them randomly to their team. Power of Cthon (more Chaos please) On QS or Vision ally Death, Scarlet Witch gains Offense Up and enemies that would gain a positive effect instead receive a random negative effect instead for the next 2 Turns.
even with his leaks i still don't have the gold for these things. The battle pass gold was also nerfed it 8 million in it. scoply ripping people off even if you were a light spender and only got battle and strike passes. nothing worth buying anymore and the gold has gotten worse due to lvl 105 coming.
@@hanzohasashi4534 I was spending 1.8 million three times a day for a seven red meph and I got it yesterday finally. All that gold is gone. But thankfully I don't have a need to spend gold on now globes.
What will be interesting to see is how the reworks might revive old teams. Some of the older teams didn't have the "3 or more" style call outs. Curious to see if the wide reworks actually open up theory crafting for mixing old teams.
It's not a *Great* idea, but I'm thinking of jury-rigging a Mutant raid team out of Storm, Beast, Nightcrawler, Jean and maybe New!Emma to save me on having to build up the Xtreme since they only have another month or two in their main role.
i was saying they were going to have to make a character that messed with energy somehow, cuz every team recently has been able to get energy so to stop that is the easiest way to counter energy filling or generation.
Black Panther Shuri has a powerful turn one special. Adds ability block on a controller and ignore’s taunt. While not related. We need someone to bring up to the devs that while it’s nice they are giving away all the Astral awakenings. We need to be repaid T4s. You can’t apply the awakened if you don’t do the T4s. I spent a lot of T4s on Astral to help my alliance in Battleworld. Now, I have a shortage on these new teams, even with Spotlight raid rewards.
I'm surprised there's not much energy generation in the raid team, unless i missed something. How contrived will the spotlight 2 nodes need to be so that simming works (or since they're team locked maybe they'll just be easy)?
If they are just releasing 1 character, then they should have released a 5th member of X-Factor and rework the rest, instead of reworking Polaris alone.
I keep seeing it's only 2 new characters.It's 2 new characters, yes. However, my falcon, wasp, iron heart, storm, beast, Polaris, Invisible Woman and Vision range from gt 6 to gt 12. The gold alone is a huge issue. On top of the fact I'm still trying to get my Orchis and Nightstalkers past 4 to 5 stars. Kahori and team still need to be unlocked... It's a lot without enough resources.
playing's devil's advocate here: making it so instead of having 3 reworks for build up for the next two new toons, we have 5 is gonna be an extreme tax on our resources. unless there's a major increase in gold and t4s at the very least (and possibly training mats and gear), or unless they spread this release out over a much longer time period than usual, this update could be very problematic. to be clear: the sup/sin6 hybrid rework was cool, but very few people invested anything in toons like rhino, electro and shocker. there just were not enough resources to go around (over the given time frame) unless you were a decent spender. AND that mega team had FOUR new toons (so it was spread out over twice as a long a time period), and the secondary team was extremely optional. I suppose ftp and light spenders can just skip the non-spotlight toons, but that's gonna hurt morale, in a game that can't really afford any more of that...
Think imma pass atm on the vision and SWitch reworks I will prolly build raid first and then crucible then war if I have the resources and nothing else to build at the time.
hhhhmmm ..coming here straigh up from unlocking big SuS .... with all new teams , makes me kinda confused on who to focus now to build ... currently slowly getting annihilatrs up to be DD7 usable (currently all at Lvl 75) and Alpha Flight for spotlight raid (currently at LvL 55). But most of the other new teams i have at Lvl70 (orchis, astral, nightstalkers) ... so makes me kinda question who to build next with another 3 new teams and me being just day away from unlcoking Kahkori (rest of AAforce i have at lvl70 too)
One thing people should also take into consideration is that beast is not going to be taking mass amounts of speedbar every time someone gets dipped under 50% life like he did with the astonishing Xmen that part was included into jubilees kit not beast if i remember right, im very annoyed that part isnt being brought over to his new team
2:28 unfortunately i think that means alpha flight will replace spider society, and the new raid team will replace alpha flight’s slot in the new spotlight raids. it’s very likely alpha flight will still be needed for spotlight sadly
I would be more excited if I had training materials and gold. only have 4 million gold and no training mats as I am still trying to get characters to G19 for mephisto. I was happy to unlock Kahori early with a lucky core orb, but could only get her to lvl 70. I have also been only leveling up necessary characters for DD7 and Scourges, with priority on DD7. Even if the doubled all Gold and Training mat drops, it may not be enough, especially if Level Cap increase is incoming. If I could pick one for them to increase, make it Gold as now they need it for events despite no warning, should we hoard Gold now??
@KkevrockK i do put in effort, I'm f2p. Did you know it takes over 6million gold to go from 95 to 100? Times that by 30 minimum for dd7, that's 180million gold. That's not including gear costs and training mats. So please don't just assume no mephisto/Odin means no effort.
It’s on a different channel and I’ve already started!here is the latest video and the channel the videos are being posted too! ruclips.net/video/MJ0ivL65WTU/видео.htmlsi=ZpKgUtl4bR5VtU9r
Hopefully they don’t gate the abilities thru Awakened Abilities…that seems like something they would do. Have a team that is good for FTP but gate the good stuff with a paywall 🙄
I think you have it backwards on the thumbnail. Imo this is a raid team that can flex into a cc offense team and/or a war offense team. I think regardless if someone wants to build the cc or war versions it’s optional, everyone will still build the raid version.
Oh for sure, I just don’t find the version all that exciting. And I agree with you on level cap coming, resource “trap” with all the reworks. But still, 4 characters ftp can have diamonds on that stops speed bar. If players make that choice they are gonna have awesomely powerful offense teams. Well I hope they are awesome havent tested them yet
the Storm, and Beast reworks were like, solid. and then they just got so stupiudly lazy on the rest of them... god i hate when they do this shit. can we just get an amazing rework like the sinister six one again please for the love of god....FUCK!!
im really disappointed in the cable and polaris reworks because theyre as lazy as the ironheart and wasp ones, where they ONLY boosted stats basically and didnt rework anything it feels like. at least the full team for the spotlight raid had good reworks. just kinda sucks the extra characters for the other modes are just kinda mid.
Good luck commanders getting the resources to build all 3 versions (which is why I am not sure these are as f2p friendly as you may be believing). Everyone will have to build the raid version, and maybe (just maybe) be able to build one of the other two versions. Also, I would bet anything level 105 is after this team. After two event stores that could spend gold, this gold spending event, and now letting ppl build up to 8 reworks and 2 new characters.
It is extremely f2p friendly. You don't have to pay for resources to build teams. Your build choices are entirely your own, as is your resource management. Stars on characters are what cost money. Yes, you can core new characters, but to core 8 new characters from unlock to 7 stars would be close to the amount of cores a f2p player would get throughout their entire MSF journey. Whereas having these 8 reworks affords players "new" characters already at 7 yellow. Will you have all of them built already? Maybe? Your roster choices are your own, as are all of ours. Generally speaking, Scopely will usually rework characters that are either very gear expensive, or aren't built high by many players, or both. Most older rosters will have many of these reworks built to some degree or another. I think it is pretty harsh, though, to see that releasing 3 new teams with 8 reworks, and only 3 new characters is anything other than f2p friendly. Ffs, the only "needed" team of the 3 shares the same reworks with both of the other teams. Do you want them to pay you to play the game?
Offense teams are pretty optional, plus they're old with most likely diamonds. Also, you probably should have leveled these During the gold spending event
Please don’t compare these to s6. These are random and stupid Better Ideas with “new” teams using the game modes that will be affected 1. For crucible team - add Jean gray and rework jubilee (instead of polaris), beast, storm, colossus (instead of cable) 2. For spotlight raid team - Rework whole f4 instead of just invisible woman so that thing and mr f can still be used on their war team and crucible team 3. For war offense team - Rework rescue, vision, war machine, and falcon and maybe add iron legion (like they did with sentinel) Still selling us 2 characters like before but now has 9 reworks instead of 8
Can you recommend to scopely that they throw the 4 old characters from Immortal Xmen into the stores please? It’s great they’re campaign farmable but we’ve got all these currencies with nothing to spend them on, this is a great opportunity to put those to use for once.
No, we did not ask for any of these teams. We asked for some of those other characters because they need to be in the game like Hercules because we never had them and they’re all in those other games so they better be amazing in this one but hey, I mean I keep asking for more villains, but you know I wanna keep giving us boys heroes and make no sense and then be boring as hell and then they don’t do shit and just die. They’re just too slow.
I think it’s awesome that they’re making new teams that only have 1 new character to acquire. Also most of these characters are stale so giving them new purpose is awesome! This is full win!
Couldn’t agree more
I did all the math for the stat updates and it actually gives me some hope for the scarlet witch update. At purple 3 / 2 diamond she's gonna have around:
8.5 mil health
531 k damage
185 k armor
118 k focus and resistance
I have the rest too if they are still wanted
Only downside for me will be attempting to find the gold to upgrade all these characters. But it’s so nice to see scopely making an attempt at restoring hope in the game
Now I'm happy that I got a 3 diamond Beast. Also, finally Storm is going to be able to shine.
The only member of the Fantastic Four they have to rework now is the Human Torch.
He is way too squishy.
They absolutely did Scarlet Witch dirty by removing the prolonging of negative effects and the unavoidable part from her ultimate. Though, I do have to praise the Dev's for providing notes to give us insight on what they were thinking for making some changes that aren't normally made. Very excited for Immortal X-Men, though.
You would think that there would be actual Chaos in the Chaos Wave. So much opportunity wasted.
For example; Flip Positive effects on all Enemies, Remove all negative effects from enemies and reapply them randomly to their team.
Power of Cthon (more Chaos please)
On QS or Vision ally Death, Scarlet Witch gains Offense Up and enemies that would gain a positive effect instead receive a random negative effect instead for the next 2 Turns.
I am excited to see your new video on DD characters after this rework... This changes a lot from your last video
Thankful that Boilon leaked this weeks ago so I could level them for the gold spending event
even with his leaks i still don't have the gold for these things. The battle pass gold was also nerfed it 8 million in it. scoply ripping people off even if you were a light spender and only got battle and strike passes. nothing worth buying anymore and the gold has gotten worse due to lvl 105 coming.
Don't spend any gold until the level cap increase.
@@hanzohasashi4534 I was spending 1.8 million three times a day for a seven red meph and I got it yesterday finally. All that gold is gone. But thankfully I don't have a need to spend gold on now globes.
If you're going to level these guys then you'll have to spend gold regardless of level cap
What will be interesting to see is how the reworks might revive old teams. Some of the older teams didn't have the "3 or more" style call outs.
Curious to see if the wide reworks actually open up theory crafting for mixing old teams.
Finally new spotlight raid been wanting this for month or 2 now lol
I feel like i remember they said something about making kits less complicated 😂😂
It's not a *Great* idea, but I'm thinking of jury-rigging a Mutant raid team out of Storm, Beast, Nightcrawler, Jean and maybe New!Emma to save me on having to build up the Xtreme since they only have another month or two in their main role.
Excited to build that CC team. MAYBE, that war team, new stats, will be at least a decent CC team.
They need to slow down with the new teams
It’s 2 new characters….
Maybe you need to speed up?!
Great example of the fact that scopley can’t win. Cause other folks will bitch that there isn’t enough content.
They did.
i was saying they were going to have to make a character that messed with energy somehow, cuz every team recently has been able to get energy so to stop that is the easiest way to counter energy filling or generation.
About time we got a proper Jean Grey. I don't like Phoenix's ability that makes the entire team invisible but her, it almost always gets her killed.
Black Panther Shuri has a powerful turn one special. Adds ability block on a controller and ignore’s taunt.
While not related. We need someone to bring up to the devs that while it’s nice they are giving away all the Astral awakenings. We need to be repaid T4s. You can’t apply the awakened if you don’t do the T4s. I spent a lot of T4s on Astral to help my alliance in Battleworld. Now, I have a shortage on these new teams, even with Spotlight raid rewards.
Are you sure we don't need alpha flight for the next spotlight raid? I can keep them lvl 1?
No idea, there is a rumor alpha flight will be needed early in the raid, but I haven’t seen anything first hand
I haven't gotten the new Emma Frost yet. Can't give a rip about this new must have team.
I'm surprised there's not much energy generation in the raid team, unless i missed something. How contrived will the spotlight 2 nodes need to be so that simming works (or since they're team locked maybe they'll just be easy)?
If they are just releasing 1 character, then they should have released a 5th member of X-Factor and rework the rest, instead of reworking Polaris alone.
I keep seeing it's only 2 new characters.It's 2 new characters, yes. However, my falcon, wasp, iron heart, storm, beast, Polaris, Invisible Woman and Vision range from gt 6 to gt 12. The gold alone is a huge issue.
On top of the fact I'm still trying to get my Orchis and Nightstalkers past 4 to 5 stars.
Kahori and team still need to be unlocked...
It's a lot without enough resources.
playing's devil's advocate here: making it so instead of having 3 reworks for build up for the next two new toons, we have 5 is gonna be an extreme tax on our resources. unless there's a major increase in gold and t4s at the very least (and possibly training mats and gear), or unless they spread this release out over a much longer time period than usual, this update could be very problematic. to be clear: the sup/sin6 hybrid rework was cool, but very few people invested anything in toons like rhino, electro and shocker. there just were not enough resources to go around (over the given time frame) unless you were a decent spender. AND that mega team had FOUR new toons (so it was spread out over twice as a long a time period), and the secondary team was extremely optional. I suppose ftp and light spenders can just skip the non-spotlight toons, but that's gonna hurt morale, in a game that can't really afford any more of that...
Think imma pass atm on the vision and SWitch reworks I will prolly build raid first and then crucible then war if I have the resources and nothing else to build at the time.
Pretty solid choice imo
hhhhmmm ..coming here straigh up from unlocking big SuS .... with all new teams , makes me kinda confused on who to focus now to build ... currently slowly getting annihilatrs up to be DD7 usable (currently all at Lvl 75) and Alpha Flight for spotlight raid (currently at LvL 55). But most of the other new teams i have at Lvl70 (orchis, astral, nightstalkers) ... so makes me kinda question who to build next with another 3 new teams and me being just day away from unlcoking Kahkori (rest of AAforce i have at lvl70 too)
One thing people should also take into consideration is that beast is not going to be taking mass amounts of speedbar every time someone gets dipped under 50% life like he did with the astonishing Xmen that part was included into jubilees kit not beast if i remember right, im very annoyed that part isnt being brought over to his new team
Agreed! That speed bar boost will be sorely missed. Hf at least Storm is giving speed up
Do you remember that Vision and Scarlet Witch will do Hercules passive each action.
Do you guys think all those reworks are happening is that so people who hoarded gold will spend it before the level increase
Probably. But ends with drop having new offense teams that start with diamonds. Decent trade imo
I spent it on these reworks for the last gold spending event
Why is Storm's armour so low, but I'm happy with the Immortal X-men team as we only need to get Jean grey.
She is meant to be a glass cannon - crazy high dmg, but easy to kill as a trade off
Skip a force and build them.. Sold
If they have a tag with xmen in it then they are generic xmen as well.
2:28 unfortunately i think that means alpha flight will replace spider society, and the new raid team will replace alpha flight’s slot in the new spotlight raids.
it’s very likely alpha flight will still be needed for spotlight sadly
Hmmm that’d be very unfortunate. Especially if they are then needed for the first half of the raid
That is exactly what Bailon data mines said
I would be more excited if I had training materials and gold. only have 4 million gold and no training mats as I am still trying to get characters to G19 for mephisto. I was happy to unlock Kahori early with a lucky core orb, but could only get her to lvl 70. I have also been only leveling up necessary characters for DD7 and Scourges, with priority on DD7. Even if the doubled all Gold and Training mat drops, it may not be enough, especially if Level Cap increase is incoming. If I could pick one for them to increase, make it Gold as now they need it for events despite no warning, should we hoard Gold now??
Don’t expect to be end game if you only put in the minimum of effort.
@KkevrockK i do put in effort, I'm f2p. Did you know it takes over 6million gold to go from 95 to 100? Times that by 30 minimum for dd7, that's 180million gold. That's not including gear costs and training mats. So please don't just assume no mephisto/Odin means no effort.
They for sure have beef with scarlett witch bro this is the 3rd sorry rework for her. First darkhold, then quicksilver, and now mighty avenger 😭😭😭
Does Jean have the X-men tag?
Dorky I love your enthusiasm but if they can’t figure out the game and make good content it doesn’t matter how many reworks they do
True, a lot riding on the PvE events this week
Do they not like scarlet witch. That is another sorry rework
I know right! 😭 it’s such a missed opportunity
Hey dorky, will you be making content for King Arthur on this channel or a different one?
It’s on a different channel and I’ve already started!here is the latest video and the channel the videos are being posted too!
ruclips.net/video/MJ0ivL65WTU/видео.htmlsi=ZpKgUtl4bR5VtU9r
@DorkyDadMSF thank you! Will obviously still follow the MSF content. Just enjoying K.A. right now
I still haven't tried KA but am meaning to
The Scarlett witch rework is hype needs some justice, she was always pretty bad
Hopefully they don’t gate the abilities thru Awakened Abilities…that seems like something they would do. Have a team that is good for FTP but gate the good stuff with a paywall 🙄
Im surprised you're so excited. It has to be the whole team. These are cookie cutter teams, no theory crafting
Only cookie cutter if you want that certain affect. Lots of teams don’t rely on speed bar so when facing off against those we will make substitutes!
I think you have it backwards on the thumbnail. Imo this is a raid team that can flex into a cc offense team and/or a war offense team. I think regardless if someone wants to build the cc or war versions it’s optional, everyone will still build the raid version.
Oh for sure, I just don’t find the version all that exciting. And I agree with you on level cap coming, resource “trap” with all the reworks. But still, 4 characters ftp can have diamonds on that stops speed bar. If players make that choice they are gonna have awesomely powerful offense teams. Well I hope they are awesome havent tested them yet
Why Falcon and why not Captain Sam?
Probably didn’t want the tank portion of cap Sam I guess
the Storm, and Beast reworks were like, solid. and then they just got so stupiudly lazy on the rest of them... god i hate when they do this shit.
can we just get an amazing rework like the sinister six one again please for the love of god....FUCK!!
im really disappointed in the cable and polaris reworks because theyre as lazy as the ironheart and wasp ones, where they ONLY boosted stats basically and didnt rework anything it feels like. at least the full team for the spotlight raid had good reworks. just kinda sucks the extra characters for the other modes are just kinda mid.
Wasn't it you that complained about all the speed bar manipulation? They listened to you,don't complain now lol
So vision puts out bleeds and sw extends them. Not the worse combo ever.
Scarlett Witch is gonna be the Scarlett Witch of her team.
That’s the truest, saddest thing I’ve read today …
Thank you Envoy#3472 your abusive relationship with scopley is entertaining.
Good luck commanders getting the resources to build all 3 versions (which is why I am not sure these are as f2p friendly as you may be believing). Everyone will have to build the raid version, and maybe (just maybe) be able to build one of the other two versions.
Also, I would bet anything level 105 is after this team. After two event stores that could spend gold, this gold spending event, and now letting ppl build up to 8 reworks and 2 new characters.
But a lot of these characters are very old, which is FTP friendly for older accounts
It is extremely f2p friendly. You don't have to pay for resources to build teams. Your build choices are entirely your own, as is your resource management. Stars on characters are what cost money. Yes, you can core new characters, but to core 8 new characters from unlock to 7 stars would be close to the amount of cores a f2p player would get throughout their entire MSF journey. Whereas having these 8 reworks affords players "new" characters already at 7 yellow. Will you have all of them built already? Maybe? Your roster choices are your own, as are all of ours. Generally speaking, Scopely will usually rework characters that are either very gear expensive, or aren't built high by many players, or both. Most older rosters will have many of these reworks built to some degree or another. I think it is pretty harsh, though, to see that releasing 3 new teams with 8 reworks, and only 3 new characters is anything other than f2p friendly. Ffs, the only "needed" team of the 3 shares the same reworks with both of the other teams. Do you want them to pay you to play the game?
Offense teams are pretty optional, plus they're old with most likely diamonds. Also, you probably should have leveled these During the gold spending event
Astral in war defense cookie cutter (3 support getting trauma and AB
Good call out
Please don’t compare these to s6. These are random and stupid
Better Ideas with “new” teams using the game modes that will be affected
1. For crucible team - add Jean gray and rework jubilee (instead of polaris), beast, storm, colossus (instead of cable)
2. For spotlight raid team - Rework whole f4 instead of just invisible woman so that thing and mr f can still be used on their war team and crucible team
3. For war offense team - Rework rescue, vision, war machine, and falcon and maybe add iron legion (like they did with sentinel)
Still selling us 2 characters like before but now has 9 reworks instead of 8
The mystic enemies is a callout to Nightstalkers defenses, including with Mephisto.
Can you recommend to scopely that they throw the 4 old characters from Immortal Xmen into the stores please? It’s great they’re campaign farmable but we’ve got all these currencies with nothing to spend them on, this is a great opportunity to put those to use for once.
I’ll do that right away!
@ much appreciated!
They really do not like Scarlet witch, again they did her dirty. Ugh.
(And one raid team) lmfao
First again nerds!
OK, so you tell me to keep building them OK I’ll keep building them
No, we did not ask for any of these teams. We asked for some of those other characters because they need to be in the game like Hercules because we never had them and they’re all in those other games so they better be amazing in this one but hey, I mean I keep asking for more villains, but you know I wanna keep giving us boys heroes and make no sense and then be boring as hell and then they don’t do shit and just die. They’re just too slow.
More villains yes
@ no