What is 'Wrong' With the Indian Judiciary?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Are judges overstepping in various capacities? Are cases being assigned judicially? Three of the best lawyers in the country, Mukul Rohatgi, Dushyant Dave and Meenakshi Arora discuss what is 'wrong' with the Indian judiciary with Kapil Sibal in this episode of #dilsewithkapilsibal
Mr. Kapil deserves to be commended for initiating such discussions and the three renowned participants need to be thanked for being bold and fearless in sharing their views.
Excellent legal minds in one frame. Thanks for educating aam adami.
All are top class idiots... No one in Indian legal profession is excellent.... All are petty thieves from top to bottom.
As a budding lawyer myself , this is very precious to me .
People need to see this asap to improve the situation of judiciary.
It should be there in every where in the day today activities of our nation.
Dushyant is bold and forthright and is not afraid unlike most others 😊. He is one who can speak as it is 🎉
Very engaging ,After a very long time, I see kapil Sir speaking as a lawyer sans his personal beliefs.Mukul sir as usual at his best. ❤
I may not agree with all the things which Kapil ji has said in the past as a politician, but I must say he's doing a commendable job by discussing these matters in the public arena.
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@cosmicwarriorsx1 not an andh bhakt myself but discussion alone is not helping. How many years in the opposition to turn things around.Fine tuning needed at every level.. Look at the case of Nagaland MP election. No opposition candidate in Legislative assembly.. Only members of the ruling govt(oppositionless govt) ..... And yet Congress candidate wins.That means Congress Working Committee needs a deep revamp and relook at the way candidates are being selected. For the sake of our democracy bring in some change at the CWC level. Bottom down approach will do wonders to bring this govt to it's knees.
Adv Dave's argument about the lower judicial appointment is the key note of this discussion.
Mukul Ji seems to me more sincere, honest, and unbiased.
Excellent presentation 👏.Great service to the people.
Outstanding discussion, Dhusyant dave bravo, judges now forget, justice is nothing but fairness😢😮😢
Love the trio. Huge respect.
Sr Adv Kapil frames highly informative and interesting and need of the hour topics.. highly appreciated prog..Sir,,we.
Request to honorable panel, keep the the discussion continue till resolve the concern
It is a pleasure listening to the discussions in the Dilse programme. Such talks/discussions are quite enlightening and educative to the listeners.
Mr. kapil ,Head Of The Executive ( Mr. Prime Minister ) Education Qualification is A Big Question in " MY INDIA " .
It is disheartening to witness prominent figures within the judiciary addressing the ongoing decline of various institutions, notably the Supreme Court of India.
These discussions are really the need of the hour. We must seriously get the selection of judges and the manner of their performance evaluated to restore the faith of the common man
Competant and independent people are a very rare species in our country.
Great lady hat's off to you Mam
It's amazing to hear the eminent super law minds & luminaries of the legal profession in India that too on alarming issues.
A similar discussion on the situation of the lower judiciary would be a total bonus.
Very very Best episode sir I salute you
Respected Sir , Excellent discussion,You all are the finest intellectuals in India ❤. Unfortunately the laws made in the parliament who's some members aren't educated and having no clue about laws and lacking basic knowledge how to make India great, Add to this corruption, religion and politics, People work for themselves and not for the chair🙁. The judiciary sitting in the chair are young and inexperienced and lack maturity. For example , The most abused law is 498A and Domestic violence which has been acknowleged by the government and the SCl etc; Still govt is sleeping , 💤 Everyday harrased men are commenting suicide 😢. I have Lost faith in the judiciary. Very sad state of affairs in India. The Constitution itself is violated by the executive so How can India be a great country. Courts have become a Circus 🎪😞 .😢😢😢😢😢😢 I 💯 % agree with all of you 🙏🏻💐 ❤😊
Hello to all of you.
MR Sir- pointed out following problems: 1. Manner of appointment
2. Quality of Judges
3. Capacity of Judges
4. Difficult and Complex Laws
5. Stuff which is being appointed is not up to the mark
6. Clogging of cases
7. Different Factors should not be excuse for selecting poor fellow
DD Sir. I pointed out that one.
1. There is clamor for Justice
2. No rule of law
3. Number of cases
4. Complete nepotism in appointment
5. Per Capita ratio of judges is low
6. No Chief Justice showed any interest to deal with these issues. No conversation with other wings of judiciary
KP sir-said
1. Collegium usurps the power to select judges so they have more responsibility to make it more transparent.
2. It seems that the government advocate gets appointed as judge more
3. Judges behavior
4. Appointment of the Government Advocate is also not based on merit only.
5. Roster must be made by CJs according to expertise of judges.
There is agreement on broad based independent parmanent selection committee.
As junior member of the bar, I am completely agree with these but these are only symptoms not the cure.
Please see Judiciary is run by humans. We do not have any system to prepare good human beings. Our society has become morally corrupt; what we have is just a byproduct.
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Very interesting & meaningful discussion among leading legal luminaries.
India has collapsed as a society and the deep divide that was always within us , has come out....and current people in power are good at exploiting that....however this is also a transition phase...our democracy will strengthen, as it goes along...and we learn from our lessons....Long Live India....Jai Hind Jai Bharat....🙏🙏🙏
The discussions on the judiciary system in India should be continued to know the exerts opinions and people's reaction on this one of the important pillars of democracy. Only the panelist invited should be changed every times and experts in this field should be invited this may help to improve unfair practices in judicial system. The county is known to the world by its strong judicial system and it's judgments which I believe.
SIRS IAM REGULAR LISTENING THIS PGME AT 83 YEARS AGE THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS ROTTEN BEYOND REPAIR LET'S PUT IN JUNK YARD FOR RECYCLING ONE SHOULD ASK ONE SELF DID I DO MENDING WHEN IN CHAIR OR HAD POWER TO DO GOD BLESS YOU ALL LET 143 CROR WASH SINS AT KUMBH
Even the lawyers have failed the country by taking all the wrongs lying down.
Why are there rarely conversations on rampant corruption in Every walk of life in india, including the judiciary ?
Indian judiciary system is really collapsed, Good discussion and share the solution part also. Concern body must act on urgent basis to hold the public faith in judiciary.
You don't need laws but backbones to fight for it. 😅
Dushyant Dave said that the quality of judges has come down since the Collegium started appointing the judges; better judges rose up the system when the Govt was in charge of appointing the judges.
From this, we better not conclude that we will have better judges if we revert to the previous arrangements, even if that is mediated through the NJAC!
The quality of politicians and the environment has changed in the last 30 years and more so in the last 11 years. The party in power today and its prime movers are hell-bent on making India a Hindu Majoritarian country.
Someone at the senior level from the party opens his gob and says so some or the other time!
We didn't have Shekhar Yadav or Victoria Gowrie, she has been advised to keep her mouth shut now and open it at appropriate times, in past! Shekhar Yadav apes Adityanath, Bhagwat, Amit Shah and our Prime Neta who calls the minorities as INVADERS!
Meticulously made it clear for everyone. Thanks
Impressive analysis.
Nobody is discussing the quality of politicians, which you have done.
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Who were the invaders ?
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Indian judiciary just waste of time and money 😢😢😢
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It’s very good n valuable discussion feel obliged to you all .
Shri Mukul Rohtagi has raised a very important point about the simplification of law. The simplification of laws can help to a very large extent in solving the problem of clogging and backlogs. The ambiguous, complex, and cumbersome laws are a delight to bureaucrats and those who are in powerful positions. Many of them use these to deny the people their rightful dues. Therefore, people flock to courts even for minor problems that would not have occurred had the laws been simple and unambiguous.
Judge quality must improve and judge selection criteria must be fair and transparent
Agreed with issues pointed by Mr Rohtagi . Mr Dave has rightly said about nepotism in the appointment procedure . Complexities of laws are serious challenges . Clogging in the delivery system is another . I am a commoner but foresee that Artificial Intelligence is likely to be incorporated in the system . AI shall help recording statements , evidences and ultimate delivery of verdict / sentence without favour but with absolute correctness to the prescribed law . There AI shall not pray Lord Ram to guide it to give verdict about a Babri issue . And take years to read the 14000 pages in Ajmal Kasab case . It can take minutes to go through all the recorded statements fm both sides & deliver judgement in minutes . The sitting Judge shall only sign the print .
I have a submission to all those who are capable and have the capacity to protect the integrity of our nation should come forward to protect the majority of helpless people, as minimum.
Excellent session. Thank you 👍
Specialisation is needed in bureacracy too apart from Judiciary
The lower judiciary is one area which needs reform. In Goa the lower court judge has not been appointed for the last six months. Cases are being adjourned and prolonged unnecessarily. Waste of time and money.
Its close to curtain down. Its not so much we need to fix judiciary, but we are incapable of fixing it.
Process of appointment must start well in advance
Mr. Kapil has the distinction of being the Lawyer of the Curupts, Anti-nationals,.... etc ..etc...
Yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers you are right
Hamas isis toilet cleaner like u always same way react when they don't have any facts just start abusing j@@sureshharinathbabu9717
LAW
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Let's Act Wickedly
Let's Act Wonderfully
Let's Act Woefully
The people who broke the judiciary cant fix it.
Thnx Sir for the great initiative🙏❤️💯😇
I admire the whole panel ❤
Outstanding Discussion.The Indian judiciary faces several challenges that demand urgent reforms more.
This discussion has highlighted the key changes necessary to improve the efficiency within the system.
This debate has raised certain questions and the valuable insights shared here can guide us toward positive transformation.
Thank you to Mukul ji, Dave ji, and Arora ji, and a special thanks to Kapil ji for conducting such an insightful debate. 🙏
1. Promote only from lower judicary --> HC --> SC, based on merit and quality of ones judgements.
2. Develop a transparent and objective criteria to evaluate quality of judgements.
3. STOP lateral and direct entry to HC or SC.
4. Implement reservation policy in these appointments.
All ills shall disappear soon.
No reservations in judiciary shall be allowed
I sent my email complaint to the President of India which the President Secretariat forwarded to the office of Minister of Law & Justice against order dismissing SLP ( C ) 17711-12/2024 of my sister with disabilities ( PwD) on the ground that the impugned orders are interlocutory in nature. Impugned Interlocutory orders of Delhi High Court adjourning the revision case of the petitioner - landlady under Chapter III -A of Delhi Rent Control Act four months later were inconsistent with the 3 judges bench judgment in Ravi Dutt Sharma v. Ratan Lal Bhargava ( AIR 1984 Supreme Court 967 ) that held Chapter III -A in DRC Act was introduced for expeditious disposal of cases of landlords in bona fide need of their tenanted premises. MLJ office knowing this fact & that there is no bar in Article 136 on entertaining petitions against interlocutory orders in RTI shockingly replied no action was taken on the complaint since it was not on
government portal for redressal of grievances knowing the portal does not accept grievances against court related matters.
The real problem is that, as a people we are combating rampant exposure of capitalism, deification towards consumerism, low life standards within society that sees first world life standards as personal necessities coupled with greed and lack of stringent punishment for the corrupt, especially for those with great power.
Till then no matter how many discussions, nothing is going to change a lot
बेहतरीन चैल है।बहुत ही informative.
Nowadays bright lawyers working in top law firms are not willing to become judges even if they are approached by Collegium. That's big problem. Best don't want to become judges.
Unfortunately most of it have lost their spine either to fear or pleasure!
Apart from certain number of years of being a practicing lawyer in a lower Court to become judge of a higher court, the number of cases he handled and the number of cases he successfully handled also should be a criteria to be considered.
One Person Is Missing In This Meeting That Is Mr Ramjethmalanni
thanks kapil you are doing fantastic, not only for justice/ law& judiciary but also for the basics for our society.
Great job done. Congrats. ¹
This is Kapil Sibal and Co.
Judges should never be partial.
judiciary today is worst in india even worse than police n govt
The system is heavily clogged with cases.. The system is unjust and therefore adding to the mess. How to get a decent chance for justice?
Thank you Kapil Sibal Sir, for bringing about awareness with such clarity. Thanks to the eminent panel ofSr Advocates
They should together write articles or paper and letters to the govt over these issues and seek the functioning of the bodies concerned with robust suggestions. Educate the system about these requirements. Should also talk in the language which common people understand. They are a civic body in themselves.
Lower court situation is extermly bad , they are working just @ 1% efficiency.
All are idiots from top to bottom............... no difference......
Excellent Presentation 🌹
But the discussion is totally silent on the utilisation of technology in declogging the judicial system.
Thanks sir for this informative and knowledgeable video for common man.
Excellent work Kapil ji 🙂 All of their words are gold...Getting such legal stalwarts is extremely commendable!
How can we expect impartial justice from judges who have one way or the other compromised with and mentally proped at particular, political parties, religion, castes, Sang Parivar, Matt's- pontiffs and temples along with anticipating contingental honorary posting after retirement? 😮
Great !
Mukul ji is absolutely correct.
Let only merit take over.
Respected kapil sibal deserves to be respected....he always thinks good about the judiciary....God gives him strength to fight against the judicial evils.
He started with a ' namaskar'. That's progress
Very informative and welcome discussion. Thank you Kapil Sibal
Kapil ,Manipur Conflict Cross 673 Days ,External Aggression From Myanmar . Now ,Credibility Of Supreme Court Formed Committee is A Big Question Each & Every Citizen Of My Independence INDIA .
Very true interpretation
You are raising such question regarding collegium system in current time why did not you raise this question long back during1970, 1980
Excellent discussion which needs upholding the dignity
of judiciary in Indian.H .Ghanshyam advocate
Why is the comment deleted which is most important for the honest, skilled, poor people????
A discussion on the most powerful body of our country by the great legal experts of our country is great.The remarks of honourable Justice Sekhar kumar yadav regularly appears in the discussion, but we have to go beyond that. Because, he only declares his mind but we have to look to the verdict of others. The judicial standards and accountability bill(JSAB), 2010 is a major step in this regards.Thanks for the discussion
Beautiful discussion, one of the best panels, honesty personified. Hope we'll see many, many more. 🙌🙌🙌🙌
In America, the oldest democracy, the judges are appointed by the powers that be ---no criticism;
in India, the largest democracy, the judges are not appointed by the govt, but by the collegium --yet the govt been criticized on the ground of delay etc.
How do u reconcile both stands?
It’s a pleasure to listen to four outstanding legal luminaries on a very sensitive issue with logic. The suggestion for a committee needs to be considered by the apex court.
Patna high court judges conduct in BPSC case has cemented my views about compromised judiciary
Repeatedly the finger is pointed to the RSS agenda playing out. Those old men in khakhi knickers have not sat on their hands for 100 years in Nagpur. We now see the execution of a strategy supported by tactics for the creation of a Hindu Akhand Bharat Rashtra. Every, seemingly by chance, action is a piece in a massive jigsaw puzzle.
Personal gain is more important perhaps than joining a judicial bench
Increase judicial fee to impart justice and to develop resources
Many a time judicial officers resort to arm twisting to get things done
Competent lawyers avoid joining bench
Judicial powers be withdrawn from judges who are workung against judicial norms
Judiciary is collapsing in India
Excellent discussion ❤
Its only one team required to change the system. Those people will come.
Remarkable suggestions given by all of them regarding appointment of judges in higher judiciary.
This needs to Nationally Debated all over the population!
The case of refusal of Gopal Subramaniam's recommendation for the judge of SC is a blatant one. Nariman who got in at the same time has retired!!
spillover effects of a rotten justice system are far reaching and devastating for our country.
Really This debate is the most important.. And needful... Nation wide debate must be there....
Mr. Datar is missing especially to address issue on Tribunalisation.
TN Seshan once said that indian judiciary is highly corrupt system in India, because there's no checking mechanism, nobody is there to question the judges/advocate community.......there's no accountability for judiciary, nobody takes any responsibility, so sorry state of affairs, endless taareekh pe taareekh, taareekh pe taareekh, just killing the justice seekers with delayed justice.....no court proceedings if judge is on leave and luxury of holidays throughout the year.....Most ironical part is that the advocates community is highly unprofessional and corrupt unethical group in India where clients are virtually destroyed by their own advocates....... Even in civil cases the clients are totally battered by your own advocate and most of the times your own advocate colludes with the other side advocate and your own advocate is your own enemy...... It's better to talk less about the judges because they take decades and decades to decide a case, it takes lifetime delay to deliver justice, generations change but cases remain pending, even after reserving for judgement judges will take years to pronounce, and High courts are still worse.... Crores of cases pending in courts, worst outdated procedures of filing documents, marking of documents, accepting the documents, silly rules of sending notices and acknowledgements, years of trial procedures, if the judge is on leave nothing will move an inch, worst advocate community with no control, highly corrupt court systems, corrupt court staff where at every level you have to pay bribes... hardly you find sincere judges, may be one or two percent..... In all, the outdated judiciary is highly corrupt and uncontrolled system in India including the highly unethical advocate community.......😎
Such a healthy debate and valid topic.
Thank you sir for this discussion ❤.
Nice to see legal luminaries. Why is there no retired judge in the panel when learned jurists are discussing about judges? Is it fair or unfair?
Kapil Sibbal was a Cabine Minister of India took oath to Protect Unity & Integrity of India was advocate of Kashmir sepratist for restoration of Art 370 under interpretation of coinstitution that J&K a seprate state (country).
This thing is wrong with Judiciary that They decorated such a traitor as Senior Advocate.
This man is forgetting that current govt never broke any custom of Judiciary.But Indira Gandhi broke seniority custom of Judiciary 3 times to get her favourite Judge as Chief Justice.
Constitution was not in danger for this man at that time because he was struggling for his political carrier.