Sonic's Last Redeeming Quality....Got Ruined
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
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Intro 00:00
Storytelling Through Levels 4:04
Jun Senoue and Crush 40 6:40
Storytelling Through Character Themes 8:04
Storytelling Through Leitmotifs 12:12
Sonic 06 Leitmotifs 18:00
What Is Sonic All About? 28:46
Conclusion 32:03
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One thing I will point out from reading you guys reactions is,I was too harsh on Frontiers. I still have my opinions about the overall look,mechanics and gameplay of that game but through seeing your comments I realised there were actually some scenes I missed that DID use music effectively to add to the story. A lot of the songs did feel kind of bland but rewatching scenes with Tails or Sage,I can admit I was wrong that there were some pretty cool scenes. Most people respectfully pointed this out and I appreciate that a lot❤. Still growing as a video essayist so the feedback is not going unnoticed!
Also this is the first time since uploaded I’ve signed into my account,I almost lost this whole Yotube channel for various reasons but just thought I’d point that there was a chance this was the last time you’d ever hear for me lol
ALSO,I’m pretty happy with the discourse I’m seeing in the comments,mostly everyone being respectful and giving their opinions without trying to directly attack anyone. Appreciate that a lot
I like your pfp by the way
@@joeser6666 thank you sir!
Looking closely now... yeah, that pfp IS way past cool.
You've given me a new perspective on Open Your Heart, holyshit. I didn't realize it was both a literal description and metaphor of events in the game in regards to Sonic and Chaos. brilliant. Crush 40 is are in my top 5 artists of all time because in addition to the rockin sound and singing, their lyrics can inspire and apply to so many situations in any ones life. Honestly, some of their entire albums could be Anthems in their own right. Great Work dude. Wish Sonic keeps that awesome aspect of itself.
Wait…are you serious? I thought that was obvious
@@jaketylenol not to me. I thought it was metaphorical but I didn't realize the song is literally describing the physical events of the situation.
@ItsOver9000Productions The song is literally called "Open Your Heart."
Same goes for Live and Learn.
@@evdestroy5304 OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A METAPHOR. Jesus Christ, I get it now.
Your alive?
Sonic music litrally helped me with my anxiety, when I listened to his world I just got so exited and pumped I forgot what I wad anxious about. You hot the nail on the coffin with the cd ost description and wow your prespective on open your heart was cool, that last line "let their imagination run loose" was a very nice final touch.
Wait, people dislike Frontiers? I guess Game Apologist is right once again: "We'll hate you if you hate Sonic, we'll hate you if you _like_ Sonic, _we'll hate you if you're _*_Sonic."_*
frontiers is like an objectively bad game
Eh, frontiers was doomed due to retcons, connections to forces, lost world, and sonic boom, pop-ins, etc.
If it hadn't done the first 3 I mentioned, I would have bought it
i really wish people didnt assume those that like frontiers are because they're giving them smallest props for the past bad games, i like it because i just like it as a game
also i thought frontiers had a great, memorable OST with a story to tell
Yeah this video sounds like it missed everything about Frontiers.
He says it’s too safe, “un-Sonic”, no themes, no story, not mature. When everything about Frontiers is like the opposite of that?
Frontiers is the most “Sonic” game we’ve had since Black Knight. It’s risky (in good and bad ways), themes of lost culture are *very* obvious, literally every character in the game except Sonic goes through a major arc that leaves them changed by the end of the game, and it’s honestly the most mature Sonic himself has ever acted. (Maybe a bit too mature imo, but still.)
He says the normal themes of friendship and freedom aren’t woven into the music anymore, but if you look at the lyrics to Find Your Flame, I’m Here, or One Way Dream, you’ll see how untrue that is.
I don’t understand people who love games like Unleashed, yet dislike Frontiers, because they are so incredibly similar. Listen to “Dear My Friend” from Unleashed, and “Dear Father” from Frontiers, and tell me how these games can’t be seen in the same light.
Like yeah, I get not liking Cyberspace for nostalgia baiting, but that is literally 1% of this game. I have over 100 hours in Frontiers, and I have at max spent like 2 of those in Cyberspace. (You can technically skip ALL of Cyberspace if you don’t care about 100%-ing and just wanna grind Big’s fishing, which I think is pretty fun in-of-itself tbh.)
It’s not a perfect game by any means, but it’s definitely good. Not some soulless Breath of The Wild clone, like some people make it out to be.
kao randomly materializing out of thin air when a youtuber has to say something about sonic frontiers
Same, like are you gonna tell me that UNDEFEATABLE, BREAK THROUGH IT ALL, FIND YOUR FLAME AND I'M HERE aren't story through music if open your heart and live and learn are? Just because a game has a different direction to the previous games DOESN'T MEAN that there aren't the same things from before, that's extremely disingenuous. I am not the biggest fan of frontiers because the gameplay is overly repetitive in a lot of areas and doesn't have that free flow of generations, unleashed and the classics, but I can tell that it's a lot better than some of the hold forward Sims we've gotten before. Just because a game isn't 100% what you want doesn't mean you can't appreciate what it did right (I mean really if this guy is saying he appreciated the story of '06, a story with a multitude of problems but doesn't appreciate either shadow '05 or frontiers despite those stories being similar in how they are problematic yet having a lot of good elements honestly makes this argument misguided)
Just went over to enjoy it, that’s it
frontiers fucking sucks imo
I agree that Sonic music is always a strong point of the franchise and can be a deconstruction of the story and characters but I would also say that Frontiers has these elements as well without being safe such exploring a new gameplay style, having a more melancholy story that develops each character, showing Sonic's heroism and personality, having music tell a somber story of ancient beings while also having great boss fight music that has tells a story like Find Your Flame being about Sonic seeing the strength in Tails and wants him to be at his best.
I'm not done watching the video yet, so I'll come back and change this if I feel differently afterwards, but I'm convinced Sonic fans just don't WANT to like new additions to the franchise. After 2006 it became popular to hate this franchise while romanticizing the past.
If this guy's argument is that the music in Frontiers doesn't tell a story that addresses the bright qualities Sonic stories tend to highlight then I really don't see him selling me on this idea... because the musical story telling is one of the things I 100% loved about the game before I even started listening to other people's opinions on the game.
Sonic fans go into games looking for things to be upset about. It's exhausting.
Wait, I don’t get it. Why is it that we hate on frontiers for being mid but we should regard flawed games like heroes, black knight and 06 as better just because of a preference of soundtrack?
How is it frontiers is playing it safe if it introduce a new open world style gameplay? How is it that people don’t understand that the game was how it was because the team had no money?
Here's my take.
Sonic Frontiers is "safe" in the sense that the Cyberspace levels often have near-identical level geometry to previous Sonic games. Also, they often reuse themes from previous Sonic games, too.
Also, the "new open-world gameplay" isn't even really that new to the industry, as it shares a lot of similiarities with Ubisoft's open world design philosophy, and Super Mario Odyssey, but sadly worse.
The most original thing about it, is it has Sonic the Hedgehog's speed based gameplay in it, which changes the way you play in it.
Also, it isn't even really open-world, as there's a distinct lack of interconnectivity between the islands, so it feels more like just very open levels (open zones, if you will), then anything else.
I don't look down on Sonic Frontiers simply because it's mid. I look down on Sonic Frontiers because if you ask me, the transition to a more open level design format was not handled that well, with too many collectibles that don't really change gameplay that much, and end up breaking the pace of the game way too much if you try and collect them all.
Tired of the unoriginality, which is why I didn't care for Cyberspace much.
The game is also not that challenging.
Also, didn't care for the OST much (though there are definitely bangers), but that’s more of a personal preference thing. I just really wanted "buttrock" instead lol
The story and characters are fine, and they are indeed a step up from the Pontac and Graff era of Sonic games, however I noticed that Sonic's personality seemed a little bit more...toned down. Not much in terms of cockiness. It just seemed more like...generic good guy protag for kids most of the time.
There, I explained it.
it doesn't make sense, sometimes people just ramble for hours before realizing they aren't really saying anything
Frontier being called mid is a mercy for that trash, you should be grateful.
@@Orange_Swirl you explained it great brother.
@@Orange_Swirli mean to be fair cyberspace levels are literally levels from Sonic’s past. That’s literally what they’re supposed to be. It’s supposed to be familiar because Sonic fans complain when there’s no green hill zone but also complain when green hill zone comes back again 💀 you just can’t win with Sonic fans. While frontiers was severely flawed i thought it was one of the best Sonic games to come out since Mania and that’s not really saying much but it’s still good not great but a step in the right direction for how the fans have been reacting. But tbh idk what the fans want anymore i just know what i want. The fans want more remakes and remasters more than new things (which is weird because Sega sucks at remasters)
Honestly the weirdest thing in Sonic 06 was the Zebrahead version of His World. Its insanely good but like, why? There was already a Crush 40/rock variant
Hot take: zebrahead's version is better
@@ItzInvidious cold take
i think all 3 are good but in my headcanon each version was supposed to represent one of the three main hedgehogs sonic, silver and shadow
E3 Version of his world solos both the zebrahead version and the crush40 version
@@joeser6666 I mean, he's not exactly wrong.
Technically he talked in sonic CD but I know what you mean.
Not technically. He literally spoke in the game. It’s just that apparently every video essay maker overlooks this for some reason.
So, one thing. I understand you were talking about the leitmotif of Elise's theme, but you forgot one thing. Iblis is unsealed when Elise cries or DIES. When the group get sent into the future, they find out that the world being like that happened because Elise died later on as Eggman's battleship exploded, happening 2 days after the festival of the sun
Just wanted to point that out
Thanks for pointing that out
To add on to the Sonic 06 section, Silver's theme also samples and uses Green Hilk from the very first sonic game as a backbone for the song. While it can be seen as a subtle nod to the original genesis game, I perceive it as a way to show how inexperienced and simple-minded silver starts his journey as, before growing into a confident hero in his own right.
turns out the creator of the song didn't realise there was the greenhill leitmotif until people told him there was. so it was unintentional
@@Akipoutark _"Dreams of an Absolution was one of the few songs [Bentley] Jones sang where he was not directly involved with the production or arrangement."_ - Sonic Wiki Zone. Furthermore, the composer is listed as Mariko Nanba, not Jones.
It was the _singer and writer_ who didn't notice the similarity between Dreams of an Absolution and Green Hill. That doesn't mean the _composer_ didn't intent it - in fact, it'd be a ridiculous (if amazing) coincidence if you were right.
I feel like ragging on Frontiers for a music direction that fits with the more muted, melancholy tone they were clearly trying to hit at with the entire game, as appose to Superstars where most of it's music is just nails on a chalkboard, is a really missed opportunity. Frontiers may be playing it safe, but Superstars really led under the impression of "it's Classic Sonic so who gives a shit??" and they proceed to make the most ear-grating soundtrack ever composed for a Sonic game.
It's very clear you only listened to a few of the tracks from Superstars at most. Just because a few songs use the same instruments as Sonic 4 doesn't mean the whole soundtrack is bad. Also you're really calling Superstars the worst soundtrack when games like Sonic Eraser and Sonic Chronicles exist?
And muted and melancholic doesn't fit a series known for being fast paced and energetic. I'll take even the worst music in Superstars over the dull music in Frontiers. It's at least memorable and fits the series better.
@@chiron540 counterpoint: sonic 3&K lava reef act 2 and rusty ruin in the saturn alngside tidal tempest, both soundtracks are really great, and i love them, but sonic CAN fit with the slow paced music
@@squarethinkingdude Yeah, but those are at least memorable and fun tracks while most of Frontiers soundtrack (aside from the Cyberspace and boss themes) are just generic sad piano tracks that are trying too hard to sound like BOTW.
@@chiron540...they're supposed to fit the melancholy vibe the game is giving off. It's one thing if you don't like the music, but to criticize the direction it was intended to go into...no. That gives me the feeling you missed the point
@@danielmartin2116 Why can't I criticize the direction it was going for? It doesn't fit the series. But even then, they could've at least made melancholic music that wasn't so boring and generic.
I have to disagree with your points on frontiers. While yes it is less than the others, the story is way more serious as the world shows. It’s barren and the music reflects that in the somber tone most of the ost has. When you are in a boss battle with the titans, the music reflects how it feels to Sonic being super.
Take Find Your Flame for instance. The lyrics show he is fighting for his friends and doing all of this for them.
Just because the music isn’t all in your face most of the time doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a story to tell.
Plus if im right ... I think he even mentioned the fact that the music's getting less popular?? UNDEFEATABLE HAVE 7 MILLION VIEWS
Yeah you guys have shown me I was wrong with my take on the music overall. I’m not in the love the soundtrack but it does have some hidden gems I failed to mentioned
HOOLY what a trip down memory lane. Thank you so much for going into the history behind not only the music, but the artists behind them and their background! I never really took the lyrics in songs like "Open Your Heart" into such consideration and in such detail, until this video. It's amazing listening to it with the new details about the fight with Sonic's perspective and what he thinks is the best option to stop Chaos for good. I'm genuinely impressed with the stylish, thematic transitions you did, and actually enjoying the games, their storytelling, and other positive attributes rather than the very specific gripes and oddities I've heard constantly online (which I never had issues with lol). From the couch coop video to this, I'm glad I subbed to you Mayorski. Gonna need to rewatch this one day just for how well crafted it is.
When so many of the hardcore fans are obsessed over how Sonic controls in gameplay or how his worlds look in graphics, it's easy to forget some people, even if just a few, stick around mainly for the characters, the stories being told, and how they're told. This fanbase often chooses to agree in that Sonic's music being great is the norm, but it's hardly ever discussed what makes it so great, or why it's so memorable... and giving it some deeper thought, I reckon you're right about something, the stories they're trying to tell is what ties it all together. This fictional blue cartoon rat definitely knew how to make people feel real stuff, and without that, I wonder how many of us would care about this franchise currently...
Even if it was just the music what you were aiming to dissect, I appreciate your devotion to explaining the meaning behind every song, and the narrative impact it had by proxy. This video feels like it doubles as a "why his music matters" and "why his story matters", so I can see myself coming back to this a couple of times, at least to refresh my memory of it if not also to explain my point with something better than words of my own... which I'll do regardless, but I digress.
The video having a whole segment dedicated to Sonic and the Black Knight just filled me with immense, uncontainable joy. SatBK is my ALL TIME FAVORITE GAME, and its soundtrack lives rent free in my head constantly. I am so happy that this video taught me more about my beloved favorite Sonic game as well as showing and appreciating the beauty in it all. Just as Sonic said, living live to the fullest in the time we've got is the way to go, and the music really encapsulates it in the best way possible. I'm happy this video explained the music so well.
I wouldn't say best but its absolutely in the top 20
Dude i could watch your videos over time and time and again and try to just breathe in the nostalgia and callbacks i get and thanks to you i know that sonic songs have way deeper meaning than i previously thought thanks man!
20:28 Ik this is a dumb thing to comment about(I am really enjoying this video) but shadow put the past behind him. He never gained his memory back, he may have bits of it but he said sayonara (in the Japanese version) shadow the hedgehog since he can be his own person instead. And all hail shadow is the theme of the full hero ending so it was always meant for this shadow
Yeah, he literally threw away his past and it's hold over him, something the Shadow of SA2 and STH from the 10 possibilities couldn't do. Now that his mind is free, he acts on his own wishes and does what he believes is right. Just like Sonic, his heart is of pure good, but in Shadow's case originates from artificial and morally grey means.
@@HyperSonic1999orJTH sonic may not like his methods but has to accept it
I thought it was going to be about the new mania Port due to the thumbnail and the backlash it got when I first got tested but I was pleasantly surprised this was a great video and I enjoyed watching the whole thing!
Nice video
Really entertaining
And informative 👍✨
Can i just say, i'm SO glad you made the distinction between Colors and the games past it.
Yes. Colors has a less serious tone. Yes, it has a problem with the quality of it's jokes. However, i still feel that Adventurous Sonic spirit from the game, and the character. Heck, Reach For The Stars pretty much has the same messsge as It doesn't matter. Living life your own way and not giving up.
This video was genuinely phenomenal. I love this video thank you
The movies are doing completely different things, to satisfy a somewhat-different audience.
You are so right about the singing along to the music. I myself was playing Sonic unleashed recently and couldn't help but sing along to the music during the recording.
The music of Sonic is the best and it's so inviting. I don't know what to say, the music just invites you to get up, sing along and maybe play along with sonic.
Just listen back to the pass sonic games music just make me cry with joy. I’m happy to be a sonic fan.
Gotta say man, the bad future of palm tree panic surely is a fucking banger, but yeah the stardust speedway and all the bad futures sound just as manacingly
Fun fact in the og and og Mobile port for cd sonic had lines for getting a life and being idle for 3 minutes which gave a game over but was removed like the mj songs in origins
Fire vid man, I usually don’t comment but this was great
Fantastic video! I expected something more along the lines of an aimless rant, but you've put so much work and research into the themes and musicians you talk about that it was far more informative than I bargained for.
Here's to Sonic music! Here's to using the messages in those songs to move forward with out futures!
Dude this is an amazing video. I mean seriously, why isn’t this more popular? Honestly keep doing what you’re doing cuz it’s amazing. Never a dull moment in the video. Keep it up!🎉❤
Because it’s always more popular.
Well it's cuz you arrived here way before the video blows up. Just give it some time & it'll happen (I hope).
The first seconds of the video got me burst out laughing, i think the war between youtubers and sonic is the ultimate combat of the ages.
This video fleshed out my entire school career, explained the dual essence of my admiration and love for Sonic, and put words to my disappointment in recent Sonic games all in one. Thank you so much for this video, and great work. Here, have a like and +1 sub.
You just gave me a new reason to love sonic soundtracks. Incredible video
Your video literally describes everything that I value most about this franchise and why it hooked me so much. I have nothing to add, everything is said to the point. Phenomenal job!
I do want to add that the 06 shadow does not care about Maria anymore. If you see the ending of shadow the hedgehog it’s very clear he hates his past and wants to no longer associate with it.
15:50 I got chills like never before
me too,one of my favorite parts to edit
amazing video 👏👏 keep up the great work!
Frontiers had good narrative Music to me but it just felt like a lite version of adventure and 06 like the character specific themes in final horizon kinda reminds me of the Sonic adventure character themes a bit but thats just me tho
Dude, I love your videos 😂 Interesting overlooked topics, great jokes and transitions, it's just good fun. 😎 Good work dude 👍
Too safe... My goodness your so right!
don't say you understand Shadow's arc if you actively ignore the most important game in his story just because it's a little too edgy for your liking
at the end of shadow the hedgehog he decides to leave his past behind and become his own person. when he's a protector of humanity in 06, he's not doing it just because Maria told him to like at the end of sa2, he's doing it because he chooses to be good on his own. a small difference, I know, but a very important one to me
that aside, great video, I loved it!
I kinda just said it as a joke lol,if you heard what I said you can kinda tell I’m implying shadow had growth in what he wanted and that was really mainly shown in shadow the hedgehog
I took my boyfriend to sonic symphony. He knows nothing about sonic other then the 1991 sonic. He loved it!!! That being said, the music is fire 🔥
"We didn't see much of an inter-game identity being built up during the Adventure Era."
I kind of disagree? Sonic's "theme" from SA1 was used when he first appears in SA2, and more importantly? The genre of music that Crush 40 brought became the connective thread _in and of itself._
Come on bro this video was great, its just astonishing that it hasn't blown up already. One thing that can improve in this video is the audio quality of your voice, sometimes I just don't know what your saying, and if I rewind its still not understandable.
Oh my god
This man never misses
lol Imagine if Sonic Unleashed Sonic were the same Sonic as Prime Sonic knowing that Cubot already exists in Prime.
I’m just imagining calibur sonic in super with the armour slicing at even faster speeds as he is now bestowed the title of knight of the wind
"stardust speedway bad future" proceeds to use good future
1:28 sonic the hedgehog 1-3
4:05 sonic cd
6:50 sonic adventure + 2
10:13 sonic heroes
12:24 sonic and the black knight
17:54 sonic 06
you are a king
I really hope a Sonic ‘06 remake comes out soon, of course after an ACTUAL remake for SA1 and 2. Also, Crush 40 cooked so hard for Open Your Heart, that it doesn’t rhyme ONCE but still slaps as much as any other piece of music that is the main theme of a Sonic game.
Yo I didn’t even realise it doesn’t rhyme😭
I agree with everything that was said here, but I feel that frontiers was 100 times more than a “small step in the right direction.” Brand wise, character wise, and even on the music front. At the end of the day, it even came close to being game of the year.
I personally love it, because it feels like I got what I loved about Sonic back up and running again.
This video really made me realize a lot about Sonic team’s works.
Man I fucking love Sonic, thanks for a chill video appreciating everything I love about THE GOAT
These kinds of videos tell me how to use music once I have the skill... But im still lost on how to make it to begin with.
Leitmotifs, punctuate emotions, all that, I got it, but I *cant* do that if I cant write the music to begin with.
I ain’t no musician but no one ever makes amazing detailed thing at their craft starting off. Gotta be bad at something before you become kinda good
Whats the music that starts at 0:34?
will forever be the biggest sonic fan fr
"why on earth did he cook so much"
(proceeds to play music from a game he didn't even compose on)
good job, dude. lol
As my first official Sonic game, I really love Frontiers' story and the music. Sure, all the crap they put everywhere like rails in the sky's is probably the most jarring bit but otherwise I only encountered a single bug or two and that was it. I like Sage as a character. I like how Tails, Knuckles, and Amy are characterized and how they're determined to go their own ways to find themselves, and I like how Sonic lets them go and is proud of them for doing so, even if it means letting go of people he's been with for YEARS! And yet he still keeps that cocky smile on his face and keeps going.
No matter what anybody says, he's still a role model to me and still one of my main inspirations for art. He's staying up there.
Sega should make a mario maker esque game that can implement 2D and 3D. They have enough assets
What is the orchestral version of His World you used?
amazing stuff god DAMN
This video is a work of art
I think this video single handling reminded me how understand 06s story is
Outside of some..."questionable liberties" the characters and villains feel so fleshed out
If only we could see its full potential 😔
33:26 this part hits hard
Frontiers I believe felt too "real" if you know what I mean. The game was probably the most fun I've had in years, going at blistering speeds, battling enemies, and just enjoying the open world. I think the best version of an open world for Sonic can be seen in Sonic Utopia.
This man can never miss 💯
Endless possibility is probably my favorite theme song in the series. It encapsulates everything Sonic stands for. It also made me hopeful for the future of the series after unleashed. Sadly I was disappointed on that front. But I've since moved on from Sonic. Well the games anyway. But I will say that while I like the films, I wish they would've incorporated more Sonic music in the soundtrack.
I have zero music knowledge or talent whatsoever, but being a fan or Progressive Rock/Metal helped me develop my "Musician's Ear" to what it is today. And even though i haven't played every Sonic game out there, (Some I never will touch period. ) I will always appreciate the risk taking, adventurous, and experimental side of the music aspect, and someday I hope to learn some of the Adventure Era songs on Rocksmith.
Now as far as the meta era side of the music, I personally want nothing to do with because of the games they're associated with. Sure there's banger here and a jingle there, but it feels like the music side is playing it safe too by making the song just primarily whimsical as if it were a Disney movie or trying to appeal to Nintendo fans like the games they were built for.
And I'm sorry to anyone who gets offended, but not even Forces' soundtrack could save that trainwreck. In fact, it's just as forgettable as the game itself.
And then there's Frontiers... I will say that soundtrack along the Final Horizon soundtrack is the most diverse amount of music put into a Sonic game ever. (Kronos Islands' songs have been clutch along with the Music Box Version of Bury The Light from DMC5 to help my 1 year old son sleep at night.)
And despite me not being into metalcore bands like Sleeping With Sirens, and to this day I say they fumbled the bag with the vocals of both versions of I'm Here, the main theme and the boss battles themes are epic and I had only dreamed about Sonic's music having heavier sounds, but the I did not care for Knuckles's theme and the EDM just slightly oversaturates the soundtrack.
I'm not even gonna touch on how I felt nothing for the story especially for both endings..
At this point I feel like the franchise will never get past this mediocre, nostalgic, everything is canon, fast friends forever forever, play it safe mentality, and slowly more and more people are slowly coming to realize that the Meta Era Didn't Die. They Just Had A Rebranding Phase.
My favorite Sonic game; “Sonic and the Musical Storytelling”
The music in frontiers is amazing
🔥🔥🔥 Sonic Music just hits diff
good video but why did you put sonic 3 music for the composer of sonic 1 & 2
Sonic really do got that groovy music.
whats the music that starts at 0:34?
windmill isle night
THIS PART WAS SOOO GOOD😭 31:48
Awesome video! I always love when people talk about Sonic music and give it the love it deserves.
Gotta say, though, the title of this video is annoyingly clickbaity and really left a bad taste in my mouth going in. Fortunately, It's actually a pretty good breakdown of the musical history of Sonic (didnt know about the Crush 40 name thing lol)
As for the message... I personally feel its a little contrived and unnecessary. Like, its more of a music history video and a seperate writing critique, that are being loosely dovetailed together. If the story gets better the music will adapt.
In addition, Sonic games still do use leitmotif quite a bit (i.e. Team Sonic Racing Character Ultimates, Sonic Mania hard boiled heavies and metal sonic theme, Sonic Lost World Final Boss has fragments of the Eggman theme etc.), have songs with lyrics which reflect the story and situation (i.e. one way dream, break through it all) and audiovisual storytelling (i.e. Sonic Frontiers has a cybernetic theme so the majority of the tunes are some form of EDM, whereas the overworld music is prinarily orchestral and written in movements which build on eachother as you progress ).
Thats just my 2 cents though, hope this video does well!
11:35
My head canon is that sonic R takes place after this scene and tails doll is metal sonics attempt at a friend
is the video inpired by ALtheBoi's video on motifs?
black night isn't really the first time the use of leitmotifs is notable, in classic titles the main title theme plays if you get a invincibility power-up for example, something really re-current
I am not going to lie; the music of this series is my favorite part of the franchise. I was surprised to know that how mediocre the Sonic Boom soundtracks are when they came out.
Whoever let bro cook... Thank you! This video was 🔥🔥
Talks about Masato Nakamura, plays a song by Jun Senoue.
Oh boy, I feel like I might not like this.
That’s a mistake on my part,appreciate you pointing that out
Man... I cyed so many times during this video... I love it. Thanks man ❤ I would love to see more Sonic vids like that!
You forgot One Way dream which is all what you wanted from the soundtrack
So the problem is just SEGA freaking out over reviews and stereotyping what we all want.
It was never your precious writers, just companies. Companies trying to keep a figure. Which explains the washed out play it safe squash nobody likes.
14k sub.
Knuckles don’t chuckle
Honestly I see your point but I also feel you're highly exagerating things. Frontiers is a good game with some issues sure but out of all of those the music isn't one and seeing so many comments that say "yeah you're right" and talk about a "new perspective" of open your heart (since when? Most fans knew your points already) and saying how Frontiers OST lacks elements and meaning for the history and characters (again, since when? It was the most praised part of this game when it came out and still is even with the more calmed down songs outside of the bosses) while also ignoring the history just makes me feel this video and the comments are very disingenuous and pointing non-issues as if they were issues.
And now we have people saying frotiers sucks and is mediocre when it is what put Sonic on the map again? What year is this, 2005-15 where everything Sonic-related is put on the spotlight and insulted, passing it as criticism, from "fans" who hate it isn't like the old stuff and haters who go "Sonic was always mediocre"?
Like, sorry because it clearly wasn't your intention but this is what it felt like to me. I saw your pinned comment but still I can't just watch this and feel good without saying what I think, you know?
4:06 This scared me for a millisecond
what song is this? 5:49
Crank the heat up SA1
Sonic music and ost never fails
Chronicles, that one Eraser music, and some classic Sonic songs from Forces: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
@@GiovanniKody100 Yes I know they're the worse music you complain so I will stick to 06, unleashed, colors, and frontiers being the best soundtracks of all time
I'm fine enough to admit that Sonic Frontiers isn't a perfect game, i don't think any Sonic game really knows HOW to be perfect, but i'm really tired of the mindset behind Sonic nowadays that if a game they make isn't perfect then people can't like it because Sega isn't doing right by us.
Did we forget about how they had Ian Flynn write the story?
Did we forget about the fact they finally introduced extra playable characters and announced it not like, two months after the game's initial launch?
Did we forget about the fact the early trailers looked abysmal and they actually fixed it as best they could because people complained?
Did we forget they delayed it a whole-ass year or two, MAYBE EVEN MORE that we hadn't heard of, because they were aware of the issue with not giving games long enough development cycles?
Did we forget about the fact that canonically, this game _is_ Sonic Adventure 3?
How is Sega _not_ doing right by the fans?
Frontiers is a game of perfectly reasonable quality, it has a top-tier soundtrack that seems to only catch flak because it's not as energetic or head-boppy as the rest of the series in spite of being the most thematically accurate soundtrack in the series maybe ever, the most interesting story and character personalities since A LONG TIME before the dry era of the 2010s, a genuinely well-developed set of overworld stages decorated, for the most part [chaos island...] pretty well with the ancient technology and structures for environmental storytelling?
It feels like Frontiers is getting dragged down by games like Forces having existed _at all,_ and for games like Superstars, which while not _amazing_ quality, and kinda inconsistent, is still far from a _bad_ game?
What happened to us? It used to be that pretty much every Sonic fan still believed in the series and would call out _bad_ content and not mix it in with the content we enjoyed, the content that mattered to us, and the only people dragging down the good in the series were people who didn't even play it, who decided they had the right to have an opinion because Sonic '06 existed. Now? Now _we_ can't stop dragging down what good is left in the series from not even objectively bad games but just in the face of other entries _barely_ touching mediocrity and inconsistency.
No one is saying that lol , you can’t like a game becuase it’s perfect 🤣
im so dumb i thought his world was silvers theme T^T also wheres sonic unleashed.
Ran out of budget :/
Now check out Dr. Robotnik Ring Racers and check what SEGA is missing, the passion and care, not only on its music, but on its content from every era.
10:25 IS THAT PRETTY BANGLES BY JIPPY WHAT....
You didn't provide anything new to me, but you did hit on the points that matter. Nice video.
So you knew June Senoue drove a screwdriver into his guitar to make music?
Real sonic music is pop. Bad sonic music is rock
Sega, let Sonic team cook
I strongly agree that the story and soundtrack are one of the key aspects of the game, I don't agree however that Frontiers is mid, while it's not as epic as unleashed or adventure, it's still way better than Forces or colors. I think they may have been dragged down for the intention of making a more "melancholic" game, but I have strong hopes for the future.
wow bro
Awesome video 🔥 love the analysis of Sonic's character and the amazing music