Surrogate learns one of the 'twins' she was carrying is her biological child
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2017
- A California woman was shocked to find out that after an extremely rare medical incident, she became pregnant with her own son while carrying a baby as a surrogate for another couple. www.goodmorningamerica.com/fa...
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Um it’s HER biological child therefore they have no claim to the child wtf
Right? Id feel so wrong taking someone elses kid like that.
Um the other parents took care of both the children for about a month if iam correct. Therefore, they had feelings for the other child who they thought were also their child . So of course they hesitated to give the child back at first because they had thought he was their own and also had started loving him. People should also understand that .
Edit: stop replying to me already, I wanted you guys to know and understand other parents' feelings and not entirely blame them and abuse them ,since it's not all their fault. But nah, y'all too young to understand there are two sides to every story.
@@osk3253 I understand the sentiments but biologically speaking, by the laws of god if you do believe, that child belongs to her and should be given unless she is deemed unfit. There is no right.
@@osk3253 yeah but it's not their child. That's like a kidnapper having a baby for a month and wanting to keep it because 'they have a connection'
No its not, they were told its their so they bonded with the baby. How can you compare that to kidnapping... smh
she consented to having ONE CHILD for that couple. NOT to having her child ripped from her arms and custody.
Ellie Barela
She was consenting to get pregnant.
Not just one child because she was pregnant with two and was happy to give both of them to the adoptive couple.
Stfu Donald, nobody asked you. Obviously you haven’t been doing a good job “Making America Great Again”
Sasha Romanoff
Nobody asked you to reply to me? Freedom of speech. And I’m not the real Donald trump? But he has opened up ideas that will make America great again.
Dude she only had a child because she was still having sex while she was pregnant with someone else’s child. It wouldn’t bother you that your surrogate is having sex while pregnant??
Donald Trump no it only said two bc she thought it was theirs it wasnt so
I’m glad that she got her baby back.
Me too
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me too
@Berry Love dude what the fuck.
@@phoenixspitfire635 she is correct. We asians are racist as fuck ( not me tho). But not the kind that yell " get out of my country" to immigrants, more of the subtly moving away from colored people kind.
The fact that they would try and not give her own child back is disgusting
@Zachary Khan for one I didn’t state who “they” were. Also I’m going to call the system who made them wait to get their child back for 9 months disgusting period✌🏾you taking up for these people (who I wasn’t referring to anyways) as if you know them personally. Hope you do with all that internet morality.
just to clarify this for the comment lurkers lol. the asian couple readily gave up the baby. they did not “fight to keep the interracial baby because omg asians love mixed/white people” i am going to pop a vessel if i see that in the comments one more time. although i will admit the video is definitely very misleading about the situation, and presents it as a legal battle between the asian family and the interracial family. the AGENCY was legally battling with the interracial couple because the IR couple got paid for both babies, and quickly spent the money upon realizing that one of the babies was theirs and they shouldn’t have gotten that money. In addition, the IR couple broke contract by having unprotected sex.
They never said that
@@alexastarr9728 comment lurker here 😂thanks for recap, makes sense now but your comment about Asian couples not loving mixed babies...I had friends growing up that were mixed and were very loved by their parents ❤️😊
Three way race war in the womb 😳😄😄😄
Looks like it worked out in the courts. What beautiful little baby!🍼
I got emotional when she said I was carrying my own child and didn't even know he was hers
watch who you sleep with lol
Me too... 😢
The “dad” was all blank faced. Probably didn’t want the extra kid.
should not make any difference. Was she doing something wrong she would not have done had she known her kid was also in there ? makes you wonder. Like drinking ? taking certain drugs that could be harmful ? who knows.....
lina nicolia did you not watch? Lol
She did them a favor… But then they returned it by trying to do them dirty. Smh
This is the problem when women who are surrogates are also having sex. You should not be having sex when you are carrying a baby for another couple. That is risky to the surrogate fetus and quit discusting. What happens if the man you are sleeping with has a disease like HIV, Hep, STDs or is abusing drugs while ejaculating in you without protection. It could affect you and the baby. These ppl are paying you to provide a healthy environment for their child. Even if there was very little chance for her to become pregnant twice like this... If you are going to committ to a healthy lifestyle for the sake of another couple then you should also committ to celibacy during the 9 months. Its not that hard.
It’s not just a favor, it’s a huge favor.
It was the surrogate agency that did them dirty, not the couple who couldn't have children on their own. They gave the child back immediately once the DNA results came in---the agency held the baby for an extra week or so demanding financial compensation or the baby would be put up for adoption. The biological parents are now suing the agency, as well as the lawyers that represented them.
Did them a favor? Surrogacy isn’t for free. She got paid A LOT of money, and the couple gave her twice the amount because they thought they were getting two babies. After it was revealed that the girl was the biological mother, the couple was willing to give the child back but she refused to give the other half of the money back. That’s what the court case was about. There’s always two sides to the story 🙄
I was a surrogate. In my contract I wasnt allowed to have sex. 6 weeks before until pregnancy confirmation via ultrasound. The baby was given back in a reasonable amount of time. She said they were Asian, most likely Chinese. Her baby was probably in China already. If it was a normal surrogate delivery then yes he would have been. There was obviously no fight for the baby. just going through actual legal contracts with a lawyer and a translator and the baby being in another country. They would have to rewrite the contracts and reissue a birth certificate and legal citizenship. It's all time consuming. Dont bash someone before you know the whole story.
I read all of the articles on this story prior to my comment. Its possible i got more information from other sources than just this clip. Walnuts.
Imagine if the other couple was the same ethnic mix, they would never know something was off as twins often develop differently. Lucky they were asian.
You’re absolutely right!
I was like Asian....they look black....then I watched the clip lol
Exactly what I thought they would've probably never figured it out!
@Berry Love they look like my own child as she is black. Black people come in all shades.
@Berry Love Mixed is Black.
For everyone getting this in their recommended in Feb 2021
a) The hold up was because of the surrogate agency, not the couple themselves. The couple gave up the baby right away, but things got held up when discussions of compensation came up. In a surrogacy you have to pay extra for twins, so they were asking for the extra money back. The agency threatened to put the child up for adoption if the surrogate mother didn’t pay.
b) Some surrogate contracts say “no sex during the surrogacy” some don’t. There’s no way to know if she was breaking her contract or not.
ADDENDUM: Her contract said "not [to] have sexual intercourse from the first day of her menstrual cycle before the embryo transfer until the date that pregnancy has been confirmed by the IVF Physician." [source in replies] However, there is still no way to know whether or not she broke her contract, since the gestational ages of the babies are ambiguous enough to suggest it could have been either before OR after the doctor told her it was okay. She said it was after, the agency insists it could have been before, but no one knows for sure.
Seqka711 yes!!! People need to read the fine prints. It’s important
Thanks for this because I was confused
True information that's why I didn't go negative bc I know enough to understand our laws can be stupid and the logic of desputting and resolving a case like this can be ridiculous and long.
A continuation
A) she was paid an extra $8000 for the twins, the agency refunded the Asian parents and now wants Jessica to reimburse them for her own child (she didn’t even pay hospital bills mind you).
B) she lied that she didn’t have sex, she did have sex and by so doing broke their agreement.
Now she wants to keep her child for free, after her mistakes. If you were to run an agency like that, would you just let her go after all the money her lies and mistake caused.
@@fatimaibrahimkabir5251 Can I have a source on where she broke the agreement? If so, I'll edit the comment to include the new information.
I'm glad they got their child back.
ToLovelyJesus yep me too
ToLovelyJesus.
@ToLovelyJesus they should have to give back some of the money that they were paid though.
Sammantha sandoval why? They still carried one baby to term for the other set of parents?
@@shelbyhurlburt5059 because the other parents paid MORE for twins, there are rules when it comes to surrogates, and one of them being you have to pay more if you want more children. The other parents paid for all the medical care which was twice as much for them to only get one baby. Imagine you paid me to give you 2 watermelons, I charge you for both but only give you one. You'd want the money back for the other one.
She shouldn't have had a battle at all. One embryo was implanted and she conceived on her own as well. The parents and their own baby spent months apart and it shouldn't have ever happened. The other parents should have done the right thing and made sure the surrogate's baby was given back to her asap. That is a very important time for mother to child bonding and they missed it. So sad, especially since she gave these other parents the gift if a child. There should have been NO battle.
It is sad. They are selfish.
Agreed
DaniH exactly my thoughts
Anya Aponte yes but don't be greedy
I completely agree with this. The parents not giving the surrogate her child back was like a smack to the face. When the DNA test came back and they found out it was the surrogates child who she created with her own husband, she should’ve gotten her child then and there. How are you going to try and keep this child when it’s mother just gave you a child of your own? Selfish and disrespectful is what that is
I had twins like this. Both to my husband and 1 month apart. My daughter was 2 weeks premature but doctors estimated my son was born 6 weeks early. which meant they were conceived 4 weeks apart.My son always reached his milestones around 4 weeks after his "twin" growing up and was originally in special care for 3 weeks after his birth. They are both 32 now.
That's just amazing. The human body is capable of unbelievable things.
So basically your body kept ovulating and you got pregnant AGAIN and your uterus accepted 2 different unattached from eachother sacs or does the 2nd baby somehow grow within the sac of the 1st baby?????
The fact that there was even a “process” is bogus! Are they trying to say the other family was trying to keep their child? 🤨 Screw that agency!
the other mother then texted her pictures of the babies when they were a few weeks old.
The intended mother also said she was waiting for Mrs Allen to feel well before revealing that she had doubts about the origin of one of the babies.
Bbc
@@jessicag630 not the bbc😭😭
to clarify this for the comment lurkers lol. the asian couple readily gave up the baby. they did not “fight to keep the interracial baby because omg asians love mixed/white people” i am going to pop a vessel if i see that in the comments one more time. although i will admit the video is definitely very misleading about the situation, and presents it as a legal battle between the asian family and the interracial family. the AGENCY was legally battling with the interracial couple because the IR couple got paid for both babies, and quickly spent the money upon realizing that one of the babies was theirs and they shouldn’t have gotten that money. the IR couple REFUSED to pay the agency what they owed. the agency is not at fault, and neither is the asian couple. In addition, the IR couple broke contract by having unprotected sex.
@@alexastarr9728 no they didn’t after IVF there is a certain amount of time after the implementation that it’s asked not to have sex that’s the point of the story she pregnant with her own kid due to a medical miracle well after the embryo was successfully implemented again this isn’t a normal occurrence 😹😹😹
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This shouldn’t have even been a story. He’s her biological son. PERIOD.
J. C. They aren’t twins. They aren’t related. That was the whole point. One of the babies was hers, the other wasn’t. The babies are literally different races and have different parents
Stephanie Reneé DeRamus but she had a contract. You’re not supposed to have sex while a surrogate for this exact reason. Plus how healthy is it to have your child and someone else’s child inside you and still have sex with someone who isn’t the surrogate father...
@@aurorajay4675 as long as your healthy then it wouldn't hurt either of them. What is that even supposed to mean?
Ellie Blunden so if your wife was pregnant you’d let another man sleep with her? That unfortunately is not healthy. The baby could contract a disease. Or in a rare case like this one she could produce another baby. Except that baby would not be yours. It’s the other dude that’s been inside her baby. When, where and how would that be a normal thing. Also surrogates sign a contract to not sleep with anyone in the first six months for this exact reason.
Aurora Jay Thats the thing, no ones wife slept with anyone. I don’t think you know how surrogates work and sex during a certain period of pregnancy is fine. It’s also 1 in millions for something like this to happen
DANG... the human body is AMAZING and SCARY AS SHIT.
vdls21 Right 😐!
I agree!
vdls21 true!
Lmao
Mona Scott fr though
It was the surrogate agency that tried to put the baby up for adoption not the other family
Trafficking!!! Sickening. Glad baby is with family thought.
how can the surrogate agency have any power as to what happens to a child? The parents are the ones who should get to decide.
@@liviaclaire they wanted their money back for her allegedly carrying twins and getting paid extra while simultaneously breaking their no sex contract right before implantation of the embryo. Google does wonders.
@@positivelight_ Wanting their money back and having the power to put the baby up for adoption are two different things. They can sue the parents to get the money back, they just don't get to decide what happens to the baby.
@@liviaclaire eh if there’s a clause in her contract for breaching it that says they can then there you go and oh well. She shouldn’t have done it along with taking he money. The fact they even threatened it or proposed it means that somewhere in the contract it states that they can do that so maybe she should have followed the rules so she wouldn’t have ended up in this situation in the first place.
The agency were blackmailing the couple for their own child.
How and why is this legal in the USA?
CAPITALISM
@@DarkR0ze I don't think this is capitalism or it would happen in other capitalist countries.
They are treating babies like commodities, it's really unbelievable. Thanks god they got their baby back.
@@allnamesaretaken American capitalism ?
cuz the interracial couple got paid the amount for two babies. upon realizing one was their own, and they only should’ve been paid for one, they refused to repay the agency the excess. the agency and asian couple abided by the laws; the agency refunded the asian couple and the asian couple readily relinquished the baby. the fault lies with the interracial couple highlighted in this video
She agreed to give them their own baby not one of hers. There shouldn't have been a fight to get him back especially when he was being placed for adoption.
julie martinez that poor? i’m pretty sure the cost of buying a surrogate can be up to 100,000 or even more not to mention it was twins so it had to be more. do you have 100,000+ in your pocket? but does that make you poor?
julie martinez well she didn't expect the child to be hers
He was being placed for adoption? I thought they wanted to keep him?
meh she’s not poor bitch 😂 she did this out of her kindness of her heart that’s like saying “you shouldn’t want a baby if your body can’t have them” you sound dumb af gtf off
@julie martinez who the hell cares if she's financially stable? It's her flipping kid, she deserves rights to her own baby regardless of finances. How ridiculous would that be? If you don't make a shit ton of money you don't deserve a baby? Everyone should seriously grow up. She was trying to help a family have a baby that couldn't have one. That alone is flipping traumatic, and something most of us couldn't do. It takes a strong and giving person to do that. Second, she didn't end up pregnant with her baby till quite a few weeks after she was already pregnant. So, naturally she thought she was in the clear to have sex since she was already pregnant. Can you imagine being this woman and completely shocked, finding out a different family has your biological child. If you haven't gone through this experience you have no room to judge. Have you been a surrogate? If not you have no room to judge. Have you experienced the separation puff a child you carried in your body? Then you couldn't possibly understand. And to find out that very baby is your own DNA? It's that much more drastic. Honestly, I think this was hard for both families. They both experienced a unique situation that causes heart ache for both of the couples. So everyone should lose their judgement. Honestly this generation of people make me sick. Because there's a small amount of compassion nowadays and a heightened amount of judgement. Everyone thinks they are right and everyone thinks their opinion is God. Well no one's opinion is God, so just put yourself in someone else's position and mindset for once and grow up.
P.S. : They are pretty strict about who can be surrogates these days, and anyone on welfare and government assistance wouldn't even qualify in most states. So clearly they can afford their own baby, and deserve the baby regardless.
This wAs the most bizarre surrogate story I have ever heard of
it really wAs
Let go Let god thats what u get
They didn't try to claim the child. They thought it was theirs so they took custody, signed the birth certificate, all that. Then they learned he wasn't theirs. It took some time to legally turn over their rights. I feel really bad for the Asian parents. They prepared for him, took him home and bonded for several weeks before they realized it.
Up!!!
And bought 2 of everything!
I’m just like how did two Asian parents think the white lady gave birth to a black baby because of them an they thought he was still theirs .. 😭
@@Alex-ph8hk exactly!!! They just being greedy🤣
@ti Nicole you are very silly lol
My ex left me for anoother woman that he got pregnant. After 8 years, DNA proved that his tiwns were not his and also didn't have the same father.
DAMN!!
Best karma story ever.
haha nice, he got what was coming at him
Oof
Haha
She said they had to WIN custody?! It's her child!
legally he was not her child
Lana Quimby it doesn't matter if they were in the same "oven." Only the baby that was planted there was legally "owned" by the family that paid her. Her baby stays her baby.
not true. they had no idea the other baby was not theirs. they paid her extra money during the pregnancy for the other baby and unless you have any experience w the process and legal contract then you really have no place to chime in. Legally both babies were the couples babies
Lana Quimby Ok so once everyone found out that biologically it wasn't theirs then they could return their money. Doesn't change the fact that the 2nd one wasn't theirs.
Lana Quimby if they legally were the other couples babies the real mother wouldnt have had to win custody. they were not the other couples babies.
Wow, the couple threatened to put the baby up for adoption? Like a piece of merchandise? They should have not been able to keep either child. It seems this was more of a transaction to them then what it truly was which is a the most precious gift.
Angela Hale ungrateful people. She help them with their reproduction and in return they want to put that baby up for adoption because of money.
Angela Hale did i miss something? When did it say that?
epocs Who cares if she was paid. She still carried their child. Pregnancy isn’t a “walk in the park.” A lot of women become surrogates because they want to help carry children for ppl who can’t. Just because they also want to be paid doesn’t mean it’s not also done out of the goodness of their heart. People choose careers all the time to help others, and they’re paid. This is no different.
@epocsdon't ever conceive
Wait when did they say they were going to put the child up for adoption?
I’m 16 weeks and still puking, I can’t imagine wanting to do this for someone else tbh
Am not sure on that pay scale some only make 60,000 to carry a child. But some women quite enjoy being pregnant, others not so much.
@Social Justice no...? A lot of agencies only pay $25-30k
the surrogate does it for the money, they have to be monitored for the 9 months but they get paid a LOT for the inconvenience.
I would on do this for free for family.
I can’t even fully imagine wanting to do this for my self tbh
Congratulations I’m due May 23rd with my 3rd boy 😳
There shouldn’t have been a custody battle for him he has her and her husbands dna
custody battle was cuz the interracial couple got paid 2x the money for carrying 2 IF babies, but when they realized they only carried 1 IF baby, they refused to pay the excess back, and the agency was threatening to put the baby up for adoption if they didnt pay back what they owed
@@alexastarr9728 damn the agency
Why did she have to battle for custody of her child? Government 😒
The government only had a fault in that because they refuse to pass sensible and ethical legislation to properly regulate, and ideally ban, the surrogacy industry. The main fault here, however, lies with the Chinese couple who refused to give the mother her baby back unless she refunded them what they had paid for him, and with the surrogacy agency that tried to push the real parents of that baby into letting him be adopted out (which would give the agency additional income) in exchange for not getting sued to refund the money that the Chinese couple had paid.
There is a reason that many countries ban surrogacy. The ethical issues aside, this kind of corruption is common even in the supposedly "altruistic" surrogacy situations where no money is exchanged. Surrogates being exploited and betrayed is far from an exception.
because at first it just looked like the embryo had split and both babies would have belonged to the prospective parents. Not until DNA was run did they determine that the second baby was the product of the surrogate and therefore not legally or biologically the product of the prospective parents. It just took a legal process to figure it all out and now everyone is ok.
No, greedy surrogacy agency.
right?!
It was more a battle over the fact that she broke her contract by having sex right after the procedure, which put their child's health at risk. It wasn't really a "custody" battle. They didn't want to pay the money for the contract that the surrogate broke putting the child she was carrying at serious risk
I didn't know this was so rare.
I am a superfetation fraternal twin, conceived long after my twin. She was born full term & went home, while I had five weeks in an incubator.
This story tops them all. I am glad they got their child back.
Like everyone, I never knew it was possible. IMHO, I think it occurs more than they say, and it would not be looked into, just like in this situation. Seems only because of their surrogacy and physical characteristic differences, it even came to light.
Thank goodness my sister & I were conceived by same parents. Only due to my health complications was the unusual pregnancy ovulation figured out.
BTW, look into the frequency spontaneous abortions occur, and most of the time go unrecognized. I only know this because I had one very early on, and wasn't explained until many years later. I'm glad I found out when I was more mature, because I could handle the self-blame & guilt better. It means the pregnancy wasn't viable, and there was nothing I could have done.
Thank you.
Elaine Marie whoa!
That's amazing
Coincidentally, someone told me yesterday him and his sis are twins born weeks apart. He thinks they aren't twins, but I argued that they still are.
You’re a miracle, Elaine.
I am so happy this woman got her biological son back. He is adoreable.
This woman's body has several biological babies...when that "foreign" baby was implanted, the body was like, um we didn't make that one, keep production rolling...
Just because they're Asian makes them foreign? The woman's husband is African.....
I think they meant the other definition of foreign, as in a "strange" or "not belonging to" implantation that perhaps her body didn't recognize so it still released an egg.
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@@ntstudio28 that's not what the poster meant 🤦🏻
@@ntstudio28 that’s not what she meant by foreign😑
I don’t understand how it was a legal battle at all. That baby was hers true and true. It had nothing to do with the other couple or their baby. They can be called “twins” but the two babies had no biological connection whatsoever. The surrogates baby had no biological connection to the couples baby or the couple. They weren’t the child’s biological parent. I get having to refund the money given to pay for extra medical costs due to there being two babies but they had no relations or rights over the surrogates child. And how awful of the family to threaten to put the baby up for adoption instead of just giving the baby to its rightful parents. They had the baby for two months so I’m sure they fell in love with the baby and I’m sure it was emotionally painful to find out that one baby wasn’t yours and you had to all of a sudden give up the child you believed was yours that you loved as your own, but if you really loved that child you would do the right thing and return it to its family. A family that was going to love that baby and care for that baby. It’s not like they were giving it to an awful birth family that wouldn’t love or care for the baby. Are you really going to risk the baby never getting adopted or being adopted by an awful family and being abused or unloved because you want to be petty about a 1 in a million mistake that nobody not even the doctors could see coming? If you love that baby you do what is best for it. So petty and uncalled for.
@Bella Kok it was a battle because She also took money for delivering twins and refused to give some of it back when it was discovered they weren't actually twins and that she broke the agreement. It was never about custody. It was about the surrogate who spent all the cash really quickly once she realized the babies weren't really twins. The IVF couple was forced to pay double under a "twin" clause agreement, but they didn't receive twins. They were actually fine with giving the baby back (as fine as someone could be in that situation because they knew it was the right thing) BUT the surrogate couple REFUSED to pay back the money they received for the 2nd child.
Legal documents were signed. The surrogate agreed to the terms and conditions of the contract, there for she had no rights. You are required to go to court to break the contractual agreement. Even though that was her biological child the family can't just give the baby back immediately even with the childs DNA, the court needs to sign off, the parents are required to sign over their rights.
@@ss5187 u should post ur comment in the general comments section. It clears things up a lot. Its most always both sides problem
@@ss5187 I don't see how her getting pregnant in a very rare and unusual way is "breaking " an agreement. Therefore not giving her rights to her own child. She didn't offer her own embryo to the surrogate parents. Also they are twins. Just not biologically related. They are carried together. Anyway I've heard of other surrogate parents who seem to be able to turn a switch on and off and it always boils down to money. The kids are not a gift or blessing but a damn purchase. So gross.
@@killpretty13 I mean the kids are a gift/blessing to the parents who pay but that's how it works, you gotta pay to have a surrogate if you can't have your own children. They aren't "just a purchase" and in the contract it says for her not to have sex during the first couple weeks of insemination because it's it's absolutely possible for her to get pregnant with her own child (like she did) it's rare because ppl who actually abide by the contract don't have this happen.
People who are capable of putting someone else's child up for adoption rather than giving it to their biological parents out of spite, shouldn't deserve to be parents themselves. Hope the child grows up okay being raised by such horrible people. Glad the mom got her baby back, but it shouldn't even have been a issue. Fighting for custody for your own child which You carried... This country has really gone to hell
chiraine1 i thought they wanted to keep both for themselves
makes you think, perhaps thats why they couldnt conceive in the first place? sometimes you cant interfere with the karma/curses on other people.
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It was the surrogacy agency who tried for that, not the parents of the other child.
chiraine1 Very wicked soul. She help them with gift of life but they have a wicked soul. No amount of money should make anyone to be soulless
That awkward moment when you and your twin brother are not even related.
In Greek mythology, this is how Hercules had a twin with a different father that was 3 months older.
Huh, interesting!
And hera delayed the birth of heracles so he will not become a king
I didn't know Hericles had a twin. Boy or girl.
@@albertaowusu1790 Boy, but they’re still fraternal, they have different dads.
Lol. The things biology can explain eh.
Science is so mind boggling sometimes. Who would have though "twins" can have two different sets of parents?? This is so weird and amazing at the same time.
Science has lied to us...I don't believe it's rare.
C. Morgan Free I've seen it in fraternals when the mother is having artificial insemination(saw this on the birthing channel with lesbians yrs ago). Then one with mothers who are promiscuous when twins have 2 different farhers. This was a great surprise.😶
C. Morgan Free Because they are not actually twins.
"Science"? You mean "life" or "nature"?
Its not rare at all.she had sex withun a day or 2 of having ivf which is no no.have you ever seen maury.fraternal means mom had 2 eggs.identical means 1 egg split.can only have one dad
Everyone who keeps saying "she shouldn't have to battle at all" "that's her kid she's entitled to her own child" "there's no reason for a custody fight when it's her baby" SHUT UP AND LISTEN. it was a battle because She took money for delivering twins and refused to give some of it back when it was discovered they weren't actually twins and that she broke the agreement. (breaking the agreement by having sex around the time she became pregnant with the couples child) It was never about custody. It was about the surrogate who took the money, and wanted her baby as well. The IVF couple was forced to pay double under a "twin" clause agreement, but they didn't receive twins. So that would mean they should get some of their money back. They were actually fine with giving the baby back (as fine as someone could be in that situation because they knew it was the right thing) BUT the surrogate couple made it difficult because they wanted to keep all the money for delivering twins when they only gave one baby.
Wow! And to think they make it seem as if the surrogate did no wrong. Thanks for sharing bc clearly there’s always 2 sides to a story.
I knew something fishy was going on, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Yea I was going to say i don’t know if the paying family would have been too happy about knowing they had sex at such an early stage
People really need to read this. I felt bad for her, but I felt like something was off. Thank you for clarifying.
She’s so Lucky Isn’t she lucky to get any compensation considering she broke the clause by continuing to have sex around the time the embryo was implanted?
Talk about a brother from another mother! So glad they got their baby back.
OMG good point! They aren't technically siblings...or twins...but ...wow! There needs to be a term for this kind of thing! LOL
I'm glad they got their baby back but it should have been just as simple as them physically getting their baby back, nothing more. Monstrous agency.
That baby is so cute!
Mikey D riiiiight!?!
Mikey D ,very cute!
Mikey D yeah with one
Mikey D gorgeous little boy!
Mikey D I just wanna squish his chubby cheeks 😍
Wow, I like her reason for becoming a surrogate.
m aloha yeahhh... $$$$$$$$$
Ya same
m aloha I do too...and I think there should be no need for a fight. They should have given her baby back in the hospital. She selflessly gave these adoptive folks a gift of a child...a human being...family...I no longer care about them because they don’t care about her.
+Michele Davis
i don't think that's entirely fair. they didn't know in the hospital, it said in the video that they found out later on with a dna test. by that point the new parents had bonded with both infants and some reluctance should be expected. just as it should be expected that the surrogate might have regrets about giving the child away, whether blood relation or not.
they also didn't explicitly say in the video that there was a fight. they said after a legal battle. that could have been just with the legal system and not with the other family. it's an odd circumstance, and getting birth certificates changed as well as changing custody is a lengthy and tedious process under normal circumstances.
Yet she must've been fucking with that other couples baby in her stomach! lol That would bother me!
I wasn’t even aware it was possible to get pregnant while pregnant. Thats crazy. I would not have slept until I had my baby back as well. You go girl fighting for your baby.
Right
I've heard of being fertile but damn, that's a whole new level of baby making.
I'm confused why she had to fight to get her child back, once it was confirmed that it was her child and not the asian couple why was the process so difficult
stacey3357 because the asian parents wanted to give her child up for adoption and since this is super rare process and she was hired to be a surrogate it was kindave a sticky situation
They were putting the baby up for adoption and also suing this woman and her husband. The Chinese couple were considered as the baby's legal parents, so they had more on their side with decisions. Legally, the biological parents had no say over much of anything, so they had to fight for him.
The asian couple also paid the woman extra for twins and, upon finding out that one of the kids wasn't theirs, they wanted a refund. The woman wasn't able to compensate them and so they decided to put the kid up for adoption
Athena V. Why put it up for adoption? Give her back the baby if you dont wanna keep it? Also why didnt they want to keep it? Too black?
Athena V. WOW!
If the couple paid her extra to because she was carrying twins it would be okay for them to ask for that extra back (after all, the second one wasn't really their child), but threatening to put the baby for adoption is really mean. And that agency's lack of support seems to be uncanny.
Gio Simmer I agree
Yeah
If they paid for all medical care I agree give half back
Pre natal delivery is expensive
I don't think she should because regardless they had to pay for the pregnancy it so happen she got pregnant after it was implanted...and per the agreement she was suppose to have an hour with them after birth...and she didn't get that.... if was allowed then she would have known right then and there
I just watched the video and didn't hear anything about threatening to put the baby up for adoption. Where did you get this from?
They should remain childless for being so cruel towards someone who is essentially helping them tremendously despite her getting paid
OMG not twins but roomies 💫⭐️💞
This made me cryyyy. I’m so glad that she was able to have her son and still help the other family.
So I think it’s safe to say they got their baby back, baby back, baby back....
Brittany Toth lol this comment is underappreciated
Brittany Toth omfg
You win LMFAOOoOOooO
Hahaha!!!
Brittany Toth You deserve a subscribe
Thank God we have the technology of DNA testing. But even with that it shouldn’t have taken 10 months to be reunified with his biological parents!
Two months, not ten.
There was a court case because the other parents paid extra once it was found to be twins -they wanted their money back, understandably. This woman won, and didn't have to pay them back while also getting her kid.
Kathryn Corbett that baby was almost a year old! It sounds like the other family was being a bit cruel or selfish idk what?? By not giving that women her biological son back!
Alot of surrogate parents are understandably possessive because they've gone through soo much to have a child
Apparently we aren't watching the same video? They got custody in February and the baby is now 10 months old. The baby was a month or two in February.
Y’all, it was probably the system that made her wait to get legal custody, don’t assume it was the Asian couple
What a precious family, I’m really glad she got her baby back. That doesn’t always happen sadly.
Wow this is incredible!!! I’m glad this woman got her child , and what parents would deny this woman her biological child !??
Jerr Aguirre irrelevant. They still put her baby up for adoption knowing she wanted him but couldn’t afford to pay them for him. It would’ve been different if the couple wanted to keep him
Relentlessly Rell thats shitty of them..this should have been handled by court..they had no legal right to put him up for adoption as only the birth parents(both) have that right..once the DNA came back stating she was the biological mother the childs custody should have gone to her..but the other couple should have gone to court for the additional money they paid her for the second child...the judge would have ruled in their favor and it would be a win win for both.
vianjelos or better yet, everyone simply do the right thing. What a concept huh? Smh Give the baby to his parents, and find a way to give back the money. In the mean time, be thpughtful and consider, and fair! But yeah, aint gonna happen in this world.
tama yeager gibson when did I say for them not to give back the baby? I said as soon as the DNA cane back the biological parents should have been granted custody( as is the law) and that the other people should have taken them to court for the extra money they paid..which is fair.
vianjelos I didnt say, that you said not to give the baby back. I was simply saying its a shame what we have to do because of the government, and because of how people are. I was saying that if the other parents were reasonable, they could ahve simply given the baby back and worked it out. I wasnt saying that about you. :)
People are getting these rare pregnancies, and I'm struggling to even get one baby. Life! 😔. I'm happy for them and this story made me cry. I just wish some of that baby dust would come my way.
The minute you stop trying it happens. Just an fyi the only way I could get pregnant was in a "bent over position" and not trying to lay down afterwards. I thought I was completely infertile for years but after a few crazy nights one being at a country club wedding in an upstairs room, omg sorry this is gonna be a bit tmi I'm so sorry, but one new years eve, and an event in a car I was surprised 3 times with my children and each time was completely spontaneous, no planning and I think the endorphins of the spontaneity of the moment worked some magic. So say out loud that you are no longer trying and go get wild with your man, go on vacation, do some crazy things. It works, good luck!
Do a womb detox I seen a lot of women conceive after they do it. Look up yummyyoni.net.
Kids arent all they are cracked up to be
Little Miss True a baby is fun but after that it's a financial nightmare and you lose freedom over simple things like sleep work eating and just getting up and going places I have 5 and it's hard.
Hell my sister and I both got pregnant on birth control she was in Afghanistan at the time. The point is as soon as you dont want to get pergo anymore you will be. My Bf and babysitter went though fertility treatment with no luck. Soon as they both gave up bam pregnant.
this makes me think of American horror story murder house when Vivian had twins with two different fathers
That was so wild 😂
That was so creepy
Yess
Whattttty
Their son is soooo cute! What a crazy story! I'm glad they were able to bring him home. 😌
Women’s bodies are so amazing... WE ROCK!!
Shannan Amina No. GOD ROCKS!!!😇
Miriam Greer stop it... get some help
Miriam Greer She said “We”.
nobody rocks.
Kamilla Balkarran Is that Harry styles in your pfp?
She agreed to give them their own baby, not one of hers. And either way the parents wanted to put one of the kids in adoption 😐 what kind of parents would do that. Instead of putting them in adoption why not just give the child to its real BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. Tbh their should not be any fights between them. And if you know that it’s not your child then give it back to its real parents instead of putting in adoption.
EisaIMVU MSP due to surrogacy laws, the only way to legally gain the child back is through adoption. She legally signed over her rights as "mother" when the children were born.
Lesson learned - don't carry somebody else's baby.
Kristy Basham this is different lmao did u hear anything they said ib the video??? That was her child, not the surrogate so it wouldnt go thru adoption. I mean, are u that ignorant
Lindsey Green when you are a surrogate, there are legalities that you sign your rights away to any embryo growing in your womb. Ive been a surrogate. Its not just squishing out humans and handing them to someone else.
Lindsey Green this is from a law website. "Types of Surrogacy Arrangements
In the most common surrogacy arrangement, a married couple in which the husband is fertile (but the wife is unable to carry a pregnancy) enter into a privately arranged contract with a fertile woman. This fertile woman (called a "surrogate mother") agrees to be artificially inseminated with the sperm of the fertile husband. Alternatively, the surrogate mother may be impregnated with an embryo produced by the wife's ovum.
In either case, the surrogate mother carries the pregnancy until delivery, and then -- by terms of a typical agreement -- assumes no parental rights or responsibilities, and relinquishes the infant to the couple initiating the contract.'
family.findlaw.com/surrogacy-artificial-conception/surrogate-mothers.html
I’m so happy they got their baby back... she was blessed for giving a baby to someone else with one of her own. Thank you God!!!
Amen, thank you Jesus!!
@@annab3644 don’t you guys have a rule “don’t utter your lords name in vain”
@@srijanumesh5355 Yes--what does that have to do with this RUclips video or our comments? :)
@@annab3644 nah, just someone of the Christian community had nagged me about a comment that time so I was just a bit snappy when I saw your comment. Have a good day 😄👍
But god had nothing to do with this it was doctors and science but before I hear that god made the people that became doctors and found the medical science nah there’s no proof of that so stop taking the doctors with a degrees praise to give to your man in sky
Wow, so sorry you didn't get to chat with your baby while inside of you nor be there for his first moments after birth. I am so happy that you have a completed family now. Your story will live on and your child a miracle. Let's not forget your kindness to do this for another women so she could be a mother was the most spectacular act of kindness. Your husband to support this was also a blessing. 🙏🏼💕
that's why people don't want to help others
lilo lila I agree
lilo lila right. People are so greedy
I know! How after a DNA test does a woman not give back another woman's child????? They were given their own biological child, which was the agreement! I'm horrified. That couple should feel disgusted with themselves. Jessica and Wardell did not deserve not having their son for his entire life. :(
No, it's not. Not at all.
lilo lila why should anyone carry someone else’s child?
I don't understand why she had to wait and get her own baby back.
It was her own fault for breaking the agreement and still trying to take full compensation for twins. She refused to give back the money they paid her for receiving two babies. They were totally fine with giving the baby back, but the mother made it a legal issue by not returning the money they paid for the twins clause agreement
@@LexitaMai Actually the couple gave the baby to the agency as soon as they found out, it was the agency that said they’d put the baby up for adoption if they didn’t pay.
@@LexitaMai The question is not weather she has to pay back the money, the question is, if it is ok to hold back a baby from its parents as a pledge. This is inhuman.
@@oOIIIMIIIOo welcome to America
@@jerrycurl637 Really sad...I am not american.
I myself am a superfetation twin! I have a twin brother and we were conceived a month apart. It does happen but only in about 3% of twin cases
I am glad that this family got their child back. However, as a surrogate, you don't supposed to continue to have sex; especially unprotected sex. If those rules were followed, this problem would have never occurred.
i believe she can continue to have sex as soon as the pregnancy is successful
No it’s depending on their contract. Surrogates aren’t one size fits all agreements.
@@sijay8606 exactly
girl bye
@@missiemaya ikr.Why would she stop having sex because she is pregnant
I’m so so happy to know she got her baby back, I really thought the story was going to end with a complicated legal situation. What a blessing!
Aww the baby's so cute
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The ending result is such a beautiful story! I'm glad everything worked out in the end. ❤️
Wow, they did not teach this in Anatomy and Physiology. Amazing story, adorable baby.
Tamara Weber you would've learned about it in non human biology
They didnt???
Because it’s rare.
They don’t teach you everything you literally find things out as you go on to the medical field.
Tamara Weber //Your teacher forgot it ,but we studied this in A&P.
That's lit, they're twins but they aren't even related 😂
There not twins they just share a womb🤷🏽♀️
ik u seen the same video we watched. theyre not twins they were just wombmates
They were wombmates
@@issasecretsecret7814 wombmates
Oh my God that happened to a co-worker of mine and Stacy. She got pregnant within her pregnancy so her children are considered twins however one was like 8 weeks further along than the other. Crazy
Did she deliver them at the same time?
Apparently cats do this with different paternity quite frequently, that's why you sometimes have kittens of different sizes.
Whoa, this is crazy. I’m kind of jealous. I want to produce a set of kids of different ages at the same time lol
What 🤯
Aaah, sounds like my absolute nightmare. I was so relieved each time my gynecologist said I was having a singleton. I would have fainted if he had suddenly said 'oops, you've conceived another one' 😂
That is an amazing story, and I'm glad she got her child back.
That family that tried to keep that baby are evil!
The family gave the baby over to the surrogate agency immediately after finding out he wasn't biologically theirs. The surrogate agency is the one who kept the baby from the biological parents and demanded financial compensation, otherwise they would put the baby up for adoption. The biological parents are now suing the agency and the lawyers that represented them at the time.
LaNoturna ☝️
Tbh no Asian wants a half black baby. It wasn’t their fault it was hers
Danielle Coffey “no asian wants a half black baby” uhh what. Have you seen no blasians ever in your life they LOVE their children you sound idiotic STUPID !!!!
they were battling the agencies not the family themselves
If the baby was genetically proven to be hers none of this should have continued. The surrogate parants should have respected she wanted her biological child and let go he's not an added gift to the first baby.
The other parents did hand over the baby to the agency to give back to the biological parents as soon as the DNA results came it. It was the agency that held the baby from the biological parents demanding they be financially compensated or they'd give up the baby for adoption.
LaNoturna that’s disgusting
I'm so glad she got custody! It would have been so wrong for her not to have! He is so beautiful! Congratulations to the proud parents!
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awww he's adorable, i'm glad she got him back and its hers!!! such an awesome breakthru, imagine giving someone a gift and keeping one for yourself too!! :D
How did medical personnel not notice the difference in gestational age between the embryos on the ultrasound? 🤷🏻♀️
Cidalia Martins twins can be different sizes because of twin to twin transfusion or as people say a greedy twin.
Kendra Blackwell twin-to-twin transfusion is only in identical twins, though. What a bizarre and heartbreaking case!
They would have a different “age” but it might not be so dramatic (as in a few weeks apart, not months)
@@sarahmanning442 Yes, they thought the twins were identical
@@tmitchell8331 wouldn't they be in their own sac (I dont know the right name) if they were different age and parents? How can they have joined into the same sac to be considered identical???
That baby is so freaking cutee!!
he really is
Bless that she got her son back 👏
What a story!!
Beautiful surprise blessing. Congratulations. God bless you and your family in good health and happiness 🙏💕
I am really appalled at the parents. Why would they not immediately contact the surrogate after discovering one baby wasn't theirs, especially since they did not want the other child?
I am appalled because it seems like they were trying to sell the baby to the highest bidder in order to get some of their money back.
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Legally the other parents had to go through the agency to give back the baby to the biological parents. It was the agency that decided to demand financial compensation passed the $5,000 the other parents paid to the surrogate for the extra baby. The agency demanded $3,000 for the birth certificate to be changed, and over $9,000 for the care they provided for the baby while holding him for a week or two before handing him over. On top of that, they demanded $18,000 for the other parents. From my understanding, the other parents weren't involved in keeping the baby from the biological parents.
Thank goodness they got their baby back! So sorry to the other parents who thought it was their child, loved the child and had to give him back. Really sad but I'm glad he's with his real momma.
TheLatestCrazE actually the people didn't lose the child, they gave it right back to the agency and even tried to have the baby adopted for money! Instead of just giving him back to the birth parents!
OMG are you serious???
Sarabeth Ii
Sarabeth They were going to give the child up for adoption.
I'm so glad she got her son! Such a beautiful baby
The baby looks just like the father 💖 what a happy ending from a giving beginning. I am very happy for this couple.
He's the cutest baby! I'm so happy for the both of you! 😍
Bea Zacarias
Ive seen cuter
Wait so did she have to wait till he was about 10 months old to get her own child back? If I was the other parents and I would never want to take someone else’s child.
Ms. Moses
After the fight to keep him from being adopted by someone else, they were reunited after he was about two months old.
You can read full articles or interviews online for more of the story.
Ms. Moses especially since those ppl weren't able to have a child of their own so they know first hand that pain.
They didn’t even want him so idk why she had to fight to get their son
The Asian couple were not fighting for him. The adoption agency stole him and wanted to adopt him to yet another couple to make money off him. They were using a framework that said the bio parents only wanted one of the babies, they rejected the other, so the other was now the property of the agency so could be sold on like a cat to someone else. The natural parents had to fight the adoption agency, the Asian couple had nothing to do with it.
She said they got him in February and this story broke in October so that means he was probably about a month old when they got him back.
What a beautiful family. So glad they got their son back. Sure it was tough for the other parents, loosing one of their twins. But it wasn't twins. Bless you for giving a child to a couple who otherwise may not be able to.
Her first sentence is so sweet! 💜💙💚
human bodies blow my mind. How amazing is it to discover that such thing is even possible?
gotsoymilk I have science and in one of our lessons I was like how am I here and I was like how did we get computers and how did we even get anything
Megan's world i know!! It's so fascinating
We are Animals just like other species and a lot more things can happen if you study more about ourselves
The way God created us amazes me
Goodness, this is the problem with only posting part of a story. The amount of negative comments towards the parents who contracted the surrogate, is totally unfair. It was NOT the other parents who held onto the baby. It was the surrogate agency that basically held the baby hostage. You are bashing the wrong people. This is the information super highway, research before you rant.
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I'm glad they got their baby back. He's adorable!
The fact they even tried that is disgusting in my eyes...
It was the agency not the parents that tried to do that
I‘m glad she got custody though, I’m sure she quit being a surrogate.
I'm sure no other sane couples will ever hire her to be their surrogate anyway
She likely wouldn't qualify to be a surrogate again, since she is one of the rare few women that ovulates while pregnant. And, as said, it's unlikely any prospective parents would choose her to be a surrogate.
Why wouldn't a sane woman want her? Mute point because I doubt she will ever offer herself again...
Buy why... If someone who understands the blessing of having a baby take away a miracle baby from someone who still gave them that gift ? If the baby wasn't hers it wouldn't even matter.
I don't get the comment.
@@carl5535 I think because she was probably still having sex while pregnant with someone else's baby. If she didn't do that, all that drama and confusion wouldn't have happened in the first place.
@@lizzieh.8197 so she can't have sex for a whole 9 months just because she's carrying someone else's baby??
So..... she wanted the baby back because it was hers. They said no but didn't want the baby either and saw it as a way to make money and not an actual living being. What shitty humans.
o0bluemilk0o No, theyre just doing what any non-hippie would do
o0bluemilk0o seriously... How offensive
Keoh 8 yes it does
OG Lurker where did you read this
That so sweet that they bless someone with a baby and they got bless back with they they own child god is good
He’s so precious!!!
*For new people watching this video...*
The Asian couple gave the baby back to the agency as soon as the DNA results came in.
The battle each couple had, was ONLY with the agency.
*No with each other.*
And it was obviously about the money.
The Asian couple had to pay extra thinking it was 2 kids.
They gave back the baby after DNA and is only fair they wanted the extra money back.
The baby was already in China, so please understand it takes time for this back and forth of things.
The agency, who also runs an adoption center, wanted the mother to pay for her own child birth, the certificate and the extra money that was already paid to her for the "extra" baby.
Or her child would be put for adoption.
Tl;Dr
Both set of couples were battling the agency.
No each other.
Taga Way I believe this, agencies are nasty and just greedy.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Dragon heart I really don’t remember the content of this video much but if this was through a private type agency then yes I stand that they are greedy bc I’ve been in the system. However if this was state or other type of agency then I don’t have a comment on it bc I don’t have experience with it nor know anyone that does.
Anything involving infants is typically pretty greedy, it’s just another business
Thank you for clarifying
That agency is evil, and only cares about money. Pay for your child or put for adoption, that is crazy. This world has gone mad.
Why the hell did they have to fight for their OWN kid it’s theirs her and her husband created that with their bodies not the other people.
YO HOLY SHIT!!! thanks for all the likes everyone I was just commenting this through pure anger didn’t except to get even one like bless all yalls souls!
bc according to the legal contract between her and the Chinese couple the baby legally was theirs. She broke that contract by having sex when she was legally not allowed to and became pregnant w her own child.
Lana Quimby even still why tf would you want to keep a child that isn't yours
1. The biological parent of the surrogate baby is Asian, we don't know if they are Chinese. There are 48 countries in Asia so that's why we use the term Asian. :)
2. It is not illegal to have sex while pregnant as a surrogate. In fact, most surrogacy centers obstetrician gynecologists encourage healthy sex as long as there isn't any risk to the surrogate or fetus. After the first two weeks it's pretty much a green light.
Hooty Hoot I just say orientals cuz you don't necessarily know if they're Asian and by saying Oriental it covers everyone from that area
Lana Quimby still wasn’t their baby lol
I'm so happy they were able to be reunited with their baby. What unfortunate events but thankfully years did not go by.
After 27 years, I have heard a medical Name for this,and I have seen someone else talk about this! When my oldest daughter was pregnant with her twins, her doctor kept saying, "Baby B is so much smaller, like 3 weeks smaller", the doctor even even jokingly told my daughter, she could have gotten pregnant 2 times, we always thought it was joke, even when the twins were born, Baby A was 5.6, Baby B was 2:15! They are 27 years old,and look like night and day! I can't wait to show my daughter this video! 🙏🏽👍🏼👍🏼👶🏽👶🏽
My grandmother had fraternal twins three times, and each time one of the twins was chubby and healthy looking, and the other was much smaller and seemed premature. This was many decades ago, when babies were born at home not in hospitals, so I've no idea what doctors would have said about this, but this video makes me wonder whether my grandmother's babies (my uncles and auntie) were conceived weeks apart.
Fraternal twins can be different sizes, just like any other siblings. One can be tall while the other is short.
Awww she recieved a gift for giving a gift❤❤
Andre3000fan 123456 she was paid so not a gift even though babies are gifts anyway 🙏
@@sindiserani4450 they don't pay enough for the side effects that incur.
Im so glad they got to keep their baby, I can't imagine the legal battles they went through
How selfish do you have to be to try to hurt someone like that. She gave you the gift of carrying your child. And when you find out that one child is not your child, you should immediately fix that situation. There should be no fight.
The hospital should have stopped IMMEDIATELY after finding out they weren't identical AND told her AND given her that baby since the ONLY explanation was that it was HER biological child! Let the adoptive parents try and fight her not the other way around!!! Especially since they aren't even the same ages AND the younger one would be WAY smaller it's WAY too obvious to ANY doctor that this isn't want they thought it was and they need to figure out what happened asap not just cart the babies off and give them BOTH to someone else!
this is a huge legal mess as well as emotional for all involved. Hospitals do not take upon themselves to make these decisions. They were delivering babies from a surrogate and how they look is not a guideline for changing their protocol.
Being non identical wouldnt have indicated anything their are alot of non identical twins more then identical twins and their are twins of moxed parents where one twin is darker skinned and curly hair and the other blue eyed and a red head with white skin yet have 100 percent dna
akaisha douglas yea but they placed only one fertilized embryo in her (so one developing baby) so the only way to get twins is identical the egg or embryo splitting in 2 or 2 eggs or embryos so they only put one fertilized egg(embryo) in her uterus so her having the other couples unidentical twins would be literally impossible because they only put one egg
Scumbags battling her after she gave them such a gift.
I was thinking the same. Humans!!!!
I definitely agree that they should see the facts and recognize the baby is biologically not theirs. I agree that they should give up claim but the kid is clearly loved by both sides. They believed this child was theirs and bonded with it. They did raise it for a short time. I think you cannot dismiss that emotional aspect and who knows what they are going through. Not fun for either parties.
She didn’t GIVE anything, giving means free, guaranteed this woman made a VERY pretty penny to have their child... GIFT also entails FREE, so this was neither a gift nor was it giving, get your terms straight
@@rameesafaisal the taxing and draining physical emotional and mental exhaustion of a pregnant mother is worth more than whatever thousands they paid.
@Javi Ruiz how is she ghetto?