Ubisoft's poor response to Star Wars Outlaws paywalled mission, Stop Killing Games catches on in UK
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2024
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3: www.stopkillinggames.com/
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5: • Star Wars Outlaws: Off...
6: www.ign.com/articles/star-war...
7: store.ubisoft.com/us/star-war...
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[BOSS]
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[LEGENDARY]
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Ubisoft's excuse for paywalling a side mission: it's optional. You could say that about tons of missions and content in a game. Some of the best content in gaming is optional. Optional doesn't mean insubstantial. And if the paywalled mission is insubstantial, you're giving people worse value for the $40 to $60 extra they have to pay on top of the base $70 for more expensive editions. There's nothing they can say that paints this in a positive light, it's just scummy tactic.
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[BIG BOSS]
- Devon B
- gergely oggolder
- Jonathan Ball
[BOSS]
- Charlie Galvin
- Gerardo Andrade
- Marketing aag
- Michael Redmond
[LEGENDARY]
- azalea
- dirt
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period
Can I have the sword on your wall? 🙏🏾😂
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Gamers need to be comfortable not playing Ubisoft games.
lol, spot on comment!
Got comfortable with that many years ago 😎
Ngl ive gotten pretty comfy with this idea.
That's something I can get on
Don't twist my arm
I'm very comfortable not owning ubisoft games.
They even solved piracy. I dont even want to pirate that game.
Good job Ubi.
"They even solved piracy. I dont even want to pirate that game." Omg, best comment ever..
I only own Far Cry 3, Blood Dragon and AC3 that i haven't touched for years and i probably don't own them anymore.
Ubisoft's Star Wars Outlaws won't even be worth the hard drive space on your PC/Console.
The only Ubisoft game I wanted to own, Anno 1404, was a freebie years back that I snapped up and even downloaded their launcher for. Didn't even work right through their own launcher, fucker just kept closing down after initial startup.
I got used to not owning that game, and took to the seas. Only way I could play it and that's just fine with me. Do not give Ubisoft your money, there is no guarantee it will even work if you go through official channels.
What do you mean??? Are you telling me you wouldn't want to pirate skull and bones??? "qUAdrUpLe a qUalitY"
"Get comfortable not owning games" - literally Ubisoft. Don't give them a cent, not even for physical.
If buying a game dont give ownership, then piracy isnt theft...
Hmph let's keep using VPN for the seven seas. ⛵ Torrent do what is necessary guys.
Amen Brother! And these AAA game companies wonder why they're dropping like flies. Disgusting behavior.
@@takklebox652 correct my brother these AAA companies are looking toward companies like sweet baby thinking this rainbow road agenda is a good goal in gaming. Nope so far in between hell Stellar Blade comes out tomorrow. I don't want the agenda troops messing up this opportunity of a normal title.
@@takklebox652 We are loosing leverage from agenda agencies doing covert testing on our video game titles. I'm fighting this era by modding systems and VPN Seven seas.
I can't justify spending $110 - $130 on a digital game i technically don't own via the PlayStation Store. I would rather spend that on groceries or pay off a bill. Ubisoft are a utter joke at the moment.
Online Only digital game so you won't own either way in 5-10 years
It's even worse in Australia, $110 - $190!
Single player games don’t need season passes
Or internet connection.
Totally agree. This is nuts
Or microtransactions
@@azazel166right?it should be illegal for single player games to require internet
Neither does multiplayer games. No games need it. We're just expected to accept that this is how it should be.
If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.
Unfortunately not correct. You buy a license to play a game. Just like if you rent a movie, you're not allowed to keep a copy of it, or stream it to others.
@@Atlas_Redux I feel like that analogy does not work since when we rent, it is assumed we are returning it and it is at a cheaper price than buying the movie. But game companies are expecting the consumer to pay full price and microtransaction for something we don't own3
you can't even pirate these games, so this doesn't even work
@@Atlas_Redux when you rent a movie you have a specific timeframe to use that "copy" and the option to purchase another copy for permanent use which, while you can't legally copy and distribute, you can still do whatever else you want with it. With Ubisoft games neither of those things happen
Edit: also in both cases you still "own" that copies for usage, so yeah if purchasing isn't owning a copy then pirating isn't stealing because they are only protecting the intellectual property no the usage it's copies
pirating isn't stealing, period. That's two very different things. What they both have in common however is that neither is legal.
Ubisoft needs to get comfortable with not owning my money.
Ubi has joined Blizzard-Activision in the "Never, ever will I buy from again" club.
Yeah Ubi, Blizz and Bungie are on my "Do not buy" list.
@@Nammjahtan Bungie with Halo amazing! Bungie with Destiny amazing as long as your willing to sell your first born.
@@joshuagregurich4265 Yeah sadly Halo Bungie is no more.
I solved this long ago. Don't pre-order, don't buy at launch, wait for a discount since they're already overcharging, look for discount bundles, and, most importantly, check out some indies first while waiting for all of the above.😎
I agree. However I got a soft spot for fromsoftware lol
Kinda sucks, but this is pretty much it right here, and it goes for many other things besides video games
Not First. Ubisoft has been a shit company for years. It's just more obvious now.
They're doing their full blown EA 2017 impression, only they have no gems amongst the slop like EA at least had.
Ngl if I had a nickel for every time "______ has been a shit company for years" has been said. I'd have my own shit company myself to make money off of.
It's the "Star wars curse" everytime someone works on a Star wars game, the scummy actions come out. XD do I need to mention that "remaster" of battlefront 2 classic
Correct. Because this industry has been a flaming pile of shit for the last several years. Welcome to reality, son.
Hint: Disney
Seriously tho, we had banging fuckin Star Wars games back in the day. I lived through the KOTOR days and the days of Jedi academy
I can't buy this game even if it did turn out to be good, because Ubisoft has recently found their way onto my permanent boycott list. So even if it's a good game I hope it flops and costs them a ton of money. I won't be satisfied until Ubisoft goes out of business.
Fair enough and the only good game
Series that Ubisoft have left is assassin’s creed
This right here. Cutting companies like Ubisoft out of my life has made it much easier to play games with far less disappointment.
@@NoshikiYT And what about Anno?
I just get their games off G2A if I want them that badly. It's cheaper, and none of the money goes to Ubisoft. They actually lose money in some cases.
another reason to the long list of reasons, why i play old ubisoft stuff... y'know... before this level of greed set in
Ubisoft needs to be comfortable with not getting our money.
The kicker is Ubisoft is a french company headquartered in France that removed licences that they sold from player's libraries.
Star Wars Outlaws is also paywalling day 1 content requiring you to preorder the game. ...and the argument to not buy and just pirate the game instead resurfaces and Ubisoft gets nothing, why pay $70 for a video game when they have already said it is NOT the full game.
Day 1 DLC is cut content from the finished game. You can't wiggle your way out of that fact dear Ubisoft.
No. It’s almost always content done after the main game is completed and the second team begins DLC. They take some small mission from that and release it early with the game.
Or its content a dev was working on the side that wasn’t originally planned and added since the work was done already.
No Day 1 DLC is because there is a production lead time from the game being done and the game releasing.
@@thatrandomnoob8611 You're simple wrong.
Wrong it was finished content before they started working on dlc@@thatrandomnoob8611
It's an activation code. Nothing more, nothing less
While we’re at it, stigmatize 70$ pricing. It’s dumb and born from greed purely, not inflation.
And the 1:1 exchange rate of gaming. It's going to be £70 here!
I've never come across a game that is 70$ but I'm starting to see games that are $70
I would be for it if they would charge like $80 but have zero microtransactions or dlc besides full-size expansions. But they wanna have their cake and eat it too.
I've been buying a lot fewer games overall since they became 70$ with deluxe editions over 100. I'm just not gonna spend that much unless its something I REALLY want to play, I'll buy stuff on sale instead, so I'm not gonna try out something new I MIGHT like. A lot of the AAA games released since they decided $70 is standard have also been notoriously bad, unfinished live service releases that have flopped hard.
I'm okay with $70 pricing if the game is genuinely worth it such as GTA 6, Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, etc. The problem is that studios want to still ask the premium price point on games where they didn't put in all the same effort as a Tears of the Kingdom type situation. They are releasing half baked stuff and wanting full baked prices.
A Ubisoft Star Wars game is like having a local crackhead make me escargot
Ubisoft: "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to our power of paywalling any content from our customers".
“Why is this mission locked behind a $40 paywall?”
“Jabba the Hutt is in the game.”
Yeaah jabba the most popukar star wars characters am i right?
the reason games cost so much now days is that the amount of money that executives pay themselves has increased to the point that their products can no longer be covered with a fair asking price
Don't forget overpriced consultancy firms.
But why should executives care when they can just overwork their developers and then shut down the company and sell it for parts when the game doesn't sell "well".
That’s why they don’t belong in entertainment they don’t have anything to do with making video games and never ever should have a say on anything they are not making
yes
"Optional"? Oh you mean like its optional if i buy your game or not.... seriously Ubisoft's PR alone just gave me all the reason i need to never buy their games again...
Its like they gave the most pretentious french man the head PR position.
I think that's what they forget when they give these responses. They still need to SELL their product. If controversy stirs that can harm potential sales, then the response needs to rectify that. In Ubisofts case, all the response does is make even more people not want to bother.
I always find crazy how those big companies always seems to forget basic business strategy and speech
It's just sad they're not even trying to pretend anymore. The arrogance is through the roof and I'm absolutely done with Ubisoft. They offer exactly nothing that I feel that I need. Good riddance.
I remember how Javik was DLC/pre-order bonus in Mass Effect 3, and we should've made a bigger fuss about it back then. An entire character was locked behind a paywall, but we didn't see the signs of things to come.
At least 70$ back then was the deluxe edition of the game. Still scummy but these prices now are insane. 110$ for a game? Hell no.
Ranni's quest in Elden Ring is "optional" but it has several hours worth of content and whole hidden area of the map devoted to it. It could've easily been it's own mini-DLC, but instead the devs included it in the base game because they actually care about their customers.
It is tied to one of the base endings so they kinda need to have it included. I get what you mean though
@CaptToilet don't forget there have been plenty of games (Fallout 3, Asura's Warth.) That have the true ending locked behind DLC.
And Elden Ring having an expensive DLC coming out.......@@TailAbNormal
@@TailAbNormalA 40 dollar DLC mind you. Cannot even defend them at that point.
Ubisoft. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
No need to be cautious if you're not buying any of their products altogether. They don't have anything good. It's all the same crap.
Ummm, excuse me?
- EA, Blizzard-Act, Apple, partially Nintendo, Epic Games
Nothign to really be afraid of really...they delete we as a community get redy to shut the whole thing down.
@@AConquerorsVendettaUbisoft is peak currently. Everyone else would have to do something seriously nasty to even be on par with Ubisoft.
@@BlaizeTheDragonthey don’t have a peak anymore. This company is a joke.
Ubisoft: It’s “optional and not as important and the rest of the game”
Also Ubisoft: charges 2/3 the price of the base game for it
Ya I can smell the bullshit miles away. I bet some of the npc's in the game hype up this mission and urge you to go there only to find out you can't.
@@mightylink65 instead of synchronizing view points, now you have to synchronize your credit card security code
I’m positive that the Jabba mission was just content cut from the base game and repackaged as DLC
@@wolfshade5020what gave it away? The fact that it's available at launch and is taking no extra time to develop?
It's just 'optional content' when defending it but it's 'exclusive content' when selling it.
i havent bought an ubisoft game since far cry 3.
and based on the way the MBA run the place i will never again buy their tripe.
i feel sorry for the devs that work hard
Buying ubisoft's games is optional
I'm verry comfortable not owning their games
*not paying for their game.
You don’t own it
@@gordonoboh833 they fixed piracy by making their games it's not even worth that
Remember just a few years ago when game companies told us how games are so complex now that they NEED to raise prices from $60 to $70 and that with those $70 you will get a premium experience? Not even a few years since and now $70 doesn't even get you everything in the game.
In fact, it make as me wanna go and find cheaper and better games.
@@cliffturbo2146 yeah, and indie game all the way for me
That's actually true for triple A games though.But Ubisoft is one of the last developers that should say that lol. Like that coming from someone that has been creatively bankrupt for over a decade now. *Edit except Ubisoft montpellier though their platformer games has been really good starting with Rayman origins to prince of persia the lost crowns
$40 for Helldivers 2. Go check it out
at this point, Ubisoft is making EA lesser of a scummy company than what it already is.
Fr ubisoft has definitely taken the cake for worst game company. EA still does some things wrong but honestly recently they haven't been as bad as Activision or Ubisoft
Ubisoft should get used to not getting sales it seems.
Makes me sad, thinking if BG&E2 was ever released. It too would be compromised by bad choices. Mtx and dlc would overtake the game presentation
@@kadosho02 as someone who has wanted that game for years i can say for sure that i do not want it anymore if its ubisoft who is making it. like even without the microtransactions and dlc stuff all of Ubisoft's games are basically the same that being fry cry clones. all u end up doing is bussy work on the map eather climbing towers or clearing out outposts and on the rare occasion they give you something a lil different it ends up getting boring after the 10th time u have to do it cus they filled the map with the same 5 things to do.
*"The Ubisoft Cycle"*
Make a New Game > Cost 60-70$ along with Insane Microtransaction > it Went go Successful sales or Total Flop > Ubisoft decided to End of Service + Strip out your Games without Consent
It's like selling a TV without a remote, labelling it as "optional" behind a pay-wall. It's ridiculous how gaming companies get away with these shitty PR responses.
They get away with it because people keep buying their games. But there's somethign neat I realized: there are already a lot of games. More than we could ever play in our lives. There is absolutely no reason to ever give any company money if they pull shady crap. Becauase I can just go play Morrowind again. That game's awesome.
@@etherraichu Agreed. I just recently played Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and I enjoyed my time as it was fresh. Why do I need to cave to THEIR need to push something "new", so they can get a new boat and hoes?
Ubisoft needs to lose the Splinter Cell license.
They need to lose the Tom Clancy license all together
I don’t understand how the hell they got chosen to handle a star wars license game, after the EA fiasco I would’ve thought Disney would put a little bit of effort into researching game studios to make a solid single player game, they could’ve gone with one of Sonys studios, or maybe even capcom.
The same way they make people lose their licenses.
They need to lose all their licences.
@@schlobster3929🤦so true, none of this makes sense
I am shocked beyond belief. I can’t believe Ubisoft would do something so anti consumer.
There's a likelyhood some people wont read the sarcasm.
I'm here for that.
In other words: you don't know Ubisoft
They have been doing this dog shit stuff for years. There is Console only content in their games im not joking assassins creed watchdogs and a few other of their games has content locked behind different consoles.
Not my Ubisoft, never. 🤭
I’m shocked! Shocked, I say! Well actually not that shocked
Ubisoft: for $40, you get an optional mission for one of the main factions in our single player game.
FromSoft: for $40, you get a DLC the size of one of the areas in our largest game, several new items and skills, and 20+ hours of content you can play alone or with friends.
really shows the difference between eastern companies and western companies.
eastern companies know that they only exist while people play their games and will do what they can to keep people buying their games
western companies have forgotten this and now only care about what their shareholders want, which the shareholders are not gamers so all they want is an instant return on their investment, looking to get it just on early sales and preorders. they dont care if a game is good or bad, they just want their money back right away.
I mean at this point buying both No Man's Sky and Stardew Valley are better long term investments of time and money than a triple A Ubisoft game.
or you can have the whole Helldivers 2 game for 40$ :D
There is no way that this pricing is real. It's illogical in all sense and I think this is nothing but a push for their subscription service. Mind you this game retails for AU$190 for ultimate edition
@@sylvester2395 many companies have regularly pushed prices for their games up to 70 USD now, and even before many were being just absurd with "collector" editions having high costs and low returns on said cost for the consumer
“We want to give players a sense of pride and accomplishment by spending extra money they worked hard for 😊”
Ubisoft puts it’s knowledge of what consumers want behind paywalls
Its*
@@Atlas_Reduxnewb*
I'm a female gamer and massive star wars fan. Fallen Order and Survivor are two of my favorite games of all time. This game was made for me.
Still not buying it. 😊
Regular RUclips viewer: Ouch, that hurts. 😢
Ubisoft, probably: 😐
They started with horse armor. Then it was "only cosmetic" items. Then loot boxes, followed by experience boosters, locations revealed on maps, and locking the best cosmetic items behind paywalls. The pot is starting to boil.
You forgot the $2 laser aiming scopes (which were free as part of the previous COD games).
It has been boiling for quite a while now
Its already over boiling we cant name them micros anymore 80.- for a fucking gauntlet is insane
Story time children: DLC controversies didn't actually start with Oblivion's horse armor as many people believe, it began with a classic Xbox game called MechAssault in 2003 when Microsoft released two new multiplayer maps for $5 a year after the game's release. This may have been the very first paid DLC in gaming history. Reactions at the time were mixed, but people forgot about it.
Buying the game is optional
Aggresively optional, I would say almost completely unnecessary
@@Lunaria.Praesentia Can't agree more, I've stopped buying ubisoft games and my life didn't changed. I could give a 100 games that would be way better than any ubisoft games released in the last ten years.
Breaking news: in a recent interview in the RUclips comment section, Dinoenthusiastguy said that Ubisoft should be “comfortable with me not paying for their s*** games”
Now that's reputable reporting right here
Thank you so much mr.guy, we love you.
Lmao 😂
More at 6
@Dinoenthusiastguy Sign my controller 🤩
Gaming executives need to get comfortable with not having jobs.
@@coldkush "Or something." I like how you're not even sure of your own recollection of the past. Games have always been made by coprorations since the beginning. It's not like Nintendo came years later to cash in on the game industry, they saved it from crashing, a coprorate company.
@@Nepgearaf very america-centric view, industry was fine everywhere BUT the US.
You misspelled "heads".
@@lucasLSD @lucasLSD Don't get why you are obsessed with America when I'm from Canada... I was just exaggerating the fact that corporations made games. They deleted their comment anyway, so none of this matters lmao
Sadly, executives heads almost never roll. It's always the little employees that have to go after the managers turned a company to sh1t. Remember the hundreds of layoffs at Activision? But Bobby the Devil Kot-dick got a few hundred millions for his bonus :)
"If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing"
You specifically paid for a licence with these companies
Pirating is still stealing no matter which way you look at it. Just don't buy a game if you don't like it
@@pintobean6702nahh the bootlicking is crazy 💀💀💀
@@sneakysnail9225 Who am i bootlicking here?
People are mad at stuff they knew about and wanna complain about it not my fault modern gamers are stupid for constantly supporting companies who do stuff like this
@@pintobean6702 nahh defending the big company is crazy 💀💀💀😭😭😭
@@sneakysnail9225 No one is defending the companies
You're literally just making up random things in your head now
Take your schizo meds
The sad part is even if the UK Parliament takes it up and makes a law against it, will make no diff in the US, they passes all kinds of restrictions on lootboxes in Europe a few years ago, in response game companies simply said OK and doubled lootbox outlay in the US to compensate, where they basically buy political shielding for their malpractices. Until something major changes in the US with regard to consumer rights, consumers will continue to get ripped off by corporations.
This is why the apple store is region gated now, they still do all the same bullshit in the US, only the UK gets to enjoy side loading apps.
@@mightylink65No, the EU gets to sideload apps, not the UK... The UK left the European Union "Brexit" a few years ago.
Not quite, If publishers are forced to make their games playable without their servers when the servers shut down in the UK then there will exist a version of the game that can run without the company servers. Then people in other parts of the world can use that version.
I doubt the UK would do anything the US wouldn’t. Europe yes, but the UK - I doubt it.
Nah, they stopped with lootboxes here for the most part, the banning of lootboxes simply incited the creation of battlepasses which are seen as the next best way to make cash now. It's why they're in practically every multiplayer release these days.
Ive blacklisted Ubisoft as a gamer, their products wont be installed on my harddrives until the season of greed comes to a close vote with your wallets folks 130$ for a game "You dont own" is some scummy BS
I 100% agree not buying, but even if you bought BG3 on Steam you don't "own" the game. Sure, they would likely never take it away from you unless Valve rolled into a grave, but my point is that its all licenses, it's not just Ubisoft games.
@@IEgOImkAwx I mean true you dont own digital goods truly ever but Im not sitting here worried im going to lose BG3 before we lose power globally.
Even pirating Ubisoft's crap isn't worth it
The pie/pizza analogy was so right. We are not talking about having the option of paying extra for dessert, we are talking about the main course I've already paid for!
One mission isn’t the main course. Did you cry this much when RDR2 did the same thing in 2018 6 fucking years ago? No. I bet you didn’t. Keep the same energy. This fake outrage bc it’s Star Wars is just embarrassing.
@@thatrandomnoob8611Still doesn't justify the need for an always online requirement
@@thatrandomnoob8611red dead 2 is a terrible example of the point you’re trying to make. That full game launched for $60 with no single player DLC and the game itself was incredible
@@thatrandomnoob8611wait what did Rockstar Games cut off from RDR2? Was there a content cut I am not aware of?
@@blipsauce1143 that makes it worse! game has a bonus mission tied to a $80 ultimate edition that can’t be obtained any other way. That’s ridiculous. This is a mission that is tied to the gold edition OR via the season pass. So if you don’t preorder you aren’t locked from playing this mission unlike RDR2 which does lock you out if you don’t have the ultimate edition.
Also fallout 4 came out in 2015, 9 years ago and also has a season pass. If you wanted games to not have them, you should’ve kept this same energy nearly a decade ago. You can’t cry now for something that’s been going on for a decade like it’s brand new.
Not even worth pirating
Stuff like this makes me glad to have a backlog of old games to go through.
Do yourself a favor folks of the internet and find a game you have yet to go through for some reason and play it. I myself have a copy of Yakuza 0 that I am trying to go through and it’s been a blast. Find your own simple game from the old days and forget the new.
I'm not going to lie, I read about Yakuza 0 in one of the reviews for OW2 about "games you can buy for the same amount of cash", and I've been loving it so far.
I bought myself Star Ocean Second Story R. A great example of a remake of a great game. And to make Ubisoft look worse, it got a huge update that makes this already Complete package even better. I highly recommend it, the story, music and gameplay is amazing.
As someone who's just started Y5, I agree. Yakuza series is a blast.
this is how a studio starts haveing a very bad downfall
You're right, but Ubisoft already had that great collapse years ago.
starts?
The downfall starts when higher ups forget that making video games requires having people who know how to make video games, look at most releases from AAAA studios, it’s like new studio making their first game, with absent features that has been a thing for years or even part of the franchise, they just hire some interns and political activists and expect them to make games thinking that quality doesn’t matter.
Didn't they say they were close to filing for bankruptcy about 2 years ago, this really is a long time coming
@@grandam67yt24sounds likey they want to collapse again
Ya know what else is optional, Ubisoft? *Buyin' yer bloody game!*
Wow, they literally named it after an evil space gangster? They aren't even being subtle with the greed/scumminess anymore.
My wallet has developed a wall that blocks off Ubisoft.
Star Wars isn't the draw that it used to be.
That’s thanks to Disney and its activists and corrupt companies that don’t like customers.
I’m becoming embarrassed to admit I liked Star Wars IN THE 70s! Geezis, they are just crushing everything to dust these days.
It’s so boring and played out now. They need to put SW to bed for the next 30 years.
I mean. Tell that to Disney+ revenues... people are still paying for it in droves despite actively complaining about the quality of Star Wars and Marvel content... fans are like voters, there's no such thing as a rational one
@@genlando327plays2 It's cost Disney $11 billion in less than a decade, despite Disney's _creative_ accounting practices. Maybe Hulu can save it.
You think Ubisoft is bad, but you know Activision, EA, and Take Two is watching
All the more reason not to buy into this sh*t.
This is why Asian games are doing so well, most of the time they give you more than the bare minimum
You just know take two wants that sweet 100$ tag on GTA VI, this needs to stop.
I feel guilty for buying Elden Ring, I am getting too much…lol
@@TheAsiandramafreakElden Ring came with everything you could want on day 1. The game has only been getting better and better with each and every pass. The DLC coming out looks fantastic.
UbiSoft thinking in our wallets by making way easier to skip games. 🤑🤑🤑
Goof god this why I wait 6 months before getting any big game studio game anymore.
Prince of Persia Lost Crown was gonna be my 1st Ubi game i nover a decade. Then that one exec said 'gamers should get used to not owning their games'. That kept my decade long no Ubi game streak going.
You’re missing out on a great game though. At least consider pirating it.
Lost crown is actually worth it
What makes this shit even worse is the fact that they will, no doubt, give everyone the Mission a few months after launch in Ubisoft Connect for like 80-100 credits. So you either pay the extra $40 to play it at launch or have to wait and rack up enough credits to play it late. They did it for Assassins Creed Unity's and Valhalla's deluxe edition missions too.
I like how they downplay how good the bonus content is, like the extra you'd be paying isn't actually worth it, and on top of all that after forking out so much money you wouldn't even own the game if Ubi has their way.
Brilliant strategy, definitely one to remember.
Pay walling content has been a staple for ages. Eg Mass Effect 3's Javik character
To quote Mr Inbetween- "You know why? Because people let them get away with it."
EA is just as tainted as Ubisoft... so don't even.
yep, that's why people should wait for games to age and then get them cheaper and with full content. No one needs to play a game at launch. I play games around 2 years later and have a library of cheap games that I enjoy.
Are you...defending them?
@@rundown132 If you mean me? Not at all, they are a bunch of greedy, immoral and scummy people. However, I am a gamer. I love gaming. I don't see the point in paying full price for a game (especially when a company is trying to rip me off), nor do I believe in preordering, nor do I believe in FOMO, nor do I believe in what Ubisoft is trying to do. In all fairness we don't have a clue what the game is like. It's prob shit with the ole lefty influence in all its glory but...if its good and reviews well from trusted sources. I will play it in future. I will not pay them full price for it tho as they don't deserve my money, like Arrowhead Studios do. That was my point. Be patient, don't buy into all the marketing. Sit back, relax and then make an informed decision on whether you want to play it or not.
Ha, remember when Mass Effect 3 put a whole character and all that character content was locked up?
Javik is one of the main protagonists and squad members in the video game Mass Effect 3, though he can only be acquired through the From Ashes DLC. He is the last living Prothean after the others were extinct and seeks revenge against the Reapers.
terrible idea then, terrible idea now. will they even learn? Answer:No
@@AschTB to be fair Bioware progressed further, they are at "why bother giving our games a good story, these gamers will buy literally anything"
@@AschTB wym now? the legendary edition got rid of all of the monetization. unlike ubisoft, bioware is on the uphill path.
Javik had some entertaining scenes, but that one didn't bother me as much as the way Mass Effect 2 carved out Zaeed for the "Project $5" BS. That was when a number of publishers tried to combat second hand physical copies by attaching some content to a code which came with the game and you could only use once. Steam copies, despite not being transferable in the first place, were also saddled with this, so if you missed that there was a code hidden among the extras you would miss out on Zaeed and his missions.
I thought about this, too. We were complacent back then, but we've got to stay more alert to anti-consumer practices.
Thank you Yong for constantly bringing up Ross's fight against companies killing games, even though I hate Ubisoft and Blizzard, a lot of people liked the games they've made, it doesn't matter if they're good or bad, a game was made and meant to be played, what consumers should be worried about is if they liked it or not.
Well said! We need all our UK and Australian friends to come together and demand a fair standard for players; being able to play the damn game.
Remember readers, there was never an intent to negotiate anything further than this.
We need to get comfortable with not owning our games anymore?
Ubisoft must get comfortable with us piracying the shit out of them then.
Pirating 👍
their games not even worth pirating 😂
Hmm, I'm afraid doing so would eventually lead to another anti-piracy war that gave rise to shitty DRMs like Denuvo.
Can you stop with the piracy spam. Piracy hurts legitimate developers and widespread piracy is the reason an increasing number of games now have Denuvo. Just simply vote with your wallet and don't buy this game.
This
Like Asmongold said regarding the extra Jabba mission: if it's just a little bonus mission, then it doesn't justify the 40$ cost difference, but if it's significant, then people who buy the standard edition get robbed from the full playable content of the game on launch. Glad YongYea said it here too.
So which is it, Ubi? Which bundle is the scam?
The 40$ covers more than just that mission. But yes I agree
Their biggest mistake was advertising DLC before the game dropped. Never reveal that you're hiding or taking away a part of a product from a potential customer.
🤔what- who's side are you on?
Please don't give them ideas.
Ubisoft got me in a robe and slippers, on a memory foam mattress; purchased with the money I saved from not playing their games.
Current blacklist:
- Blizzard
- Ubisoft
TBD:
- EA
Studios under Embracer Group
This close to adding SQ on that list if they try and push another n*t saying gamers just don't understand them
EA when doing non-single-player games... Killing Dead Space twice... Refusing Titanfall 3.
@@superstraight2667 Embracer Group owns all the best RPG IP. Gothic, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Valheim, etc. Embracer sold the studios that were not that great, and kept on to the gems, I don't blame them.
You forgot Gamemill Entertainment
Man starwars outlaw is going to be the best steam sale/Bargin bin game I play
Yeah that'll teach em...
@@cokeweasel1064 they don't get money on used games. and honestly if it's bought at dirt cheap on steam it tells them that people want to play the game. Just not their bullshit pricing. I also think Pirating the game is harmful in this case because it just gives them ammo to push the "get comfortable not owning your games" bullshit.
See this is the problem, this is why the industry is this way. You have to NOT buy the game AT ALL for a change. You're still giving them positive reinforcement when purchasing the game no matter how discounted it is.
Everyone complains about the industry being so anti consumer, yet here we are. People are buying their garbage, if that weren't true, they'd stop with their BS business practices.
@@themosin1852 Avoiding the Pro Consumer options is just as bad. Again I am going to be playing this game at some point unless the game is just an awful mess of a game. Pirating it will only serve to make the brain dead execs push anti piracy policies that only hurt honest consumers, and that leaves either option A. I am buying it as a used game store where Ubisoft gets nothing. Or B I am buying this 5 years from now on steam sale when it will be 10 dollars and if the larger community disregards the game as they should than that 10 dollars will mean nothing to them in trying to recuperate the cost. These are 2 pro consumer Options I have and should use because not using them just means execs can justify their shitty anti consumer behavior because if the pro consumer options don't work over the anti consumer option, why even have them?
The message people need to send is Piracy is a service problem. And using the pro consumer avenue of service is just as important as Pirating is in this landscape.
Weak. Don't buy it. Refuse to buy it, mock and shame anyone who wants to buy it.
Ubi consoomers deserve nothing but ridicule.
EA : I see that you now become a "Rival" ubisoft.
Ubisoft overtook EA years ago, Ubisoft can't even produce good games these days.
A Season Pass used to be just a bundle of DLC that could be purchased separately, but was cheaper as a pack.
Now it's just another pay-wall, taking advantage of people's excitement and fomo.
This isn't a first for Ubisoft; they made quests exclusive to the Season Pass for Immortals Fenyx Rising, so Ubisoft has form. It's just that that game didn't attract as much attention as the Star Wars IP.
That’s quite literally what the season pass is. They quite Literally said the season pass isn’t tied to the higher editions of the game.
Also RDR2 had a preorder mission locked Behind the $80 preorder. With no possible way of getting the mission after launch. Unlike this mission which is available with the $110 edition OR with the season pass. So actually more consumer friendly than RDR2.
Batman Arkham Knight also had pre-order exclusive missions, as has plenty of other games. This isn’t a Ubisoft exclusive thing.
Boulders Gate 3 has early access tied to pre-orders and that’s everyone’s favorite game from last year.
Keep the same energy about every other game before I take anyone serious about this game.
I've played a pirated version of immortals, it's not even fun, they just ripped off good parts of Zelda and made it not fun
Ubisoft must have new leadership… i only buy their games at 75% discount. By that time, all the gouging is over, patched, and done. Yay for the UK petition! A billion dollar company, and the government doesn’t take complaints seriously!! Because isn’t it just a game🤦🏼
Do you remember expansions? Where new story missions and new contend expanded the game. I missed those days. Now we call everything DLC, but you never know what you will get. One mission it sucks, but now I wonder what if that is the most amazing mission from the whole game. If I could not wait and had to buy it now. I would buy standard edition, because at least I would have the option "if the season pass proves to be good" to buy it later.
Ubisoft being anti-consumer, who would have guess
It’s pretty obvious they don’t want people to buy the game, they want them to subscribe to Ubisoft plus. It fits the narrative of not wanting people to own games and the $130 price tag makes the $20 subscription price look better
The ultimate bundle is almost $200 in Canada after taxes
I know it's insane.
Must be gutting for Massive devs who have no doubt worked hard on this title only to see their parent company do everything in their power to ensure a negative vibe around this game and massively hinder its chances of success. Clearly Ubisoft looked at the resounding success of BG3 and said “nope, don’t want any of that.”
Ubisoft needs to get comfortable with People not buying their games.
Ubisoft hasn't made a good game in God knows how many years.
People still buy their games and they are still making profits, so they are doing everything right. Until gamers stop being so mindless consumers, these corpos won't stop.
Stop buying these games. Everybody is complaining, but still will buy
Was a day 1 purchase for me, but with all this bs coming out I'm shelving that purchase till I can get it for less than $20 w/shipping on ebay. We almost all have a huge backlog of games to play so there is no reason for a pre order or day 1 purchase anymore. Besides it time for a replay of next gen Fallout 4 and all that dlc.
"Ubisoft's poor response...:
Me: Time is a flat circle, and with Ubisoft, a short span, too.
12 years ago TotalBiscuit did a video called: "Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3". In the video he talks about Mass Effect 3 and it selling DLC on day one of the game coming out. His argument is that: Any game that comes out with content that is done but has been cut out of it is not feature complete.
I officially stopped supporting years ago how they ruined the Ghost recon franchise with how anti consumer Breakpoint is. I'll never give that company a cent again.
We are renting games for 70+ bucks
With all the low sale failures of there recent games you would think ubisoft would be treading lightly. If star wars outlaws fails who knows if Ubisoft will be around much longer. It's very strange for a company to not want to make money and be extremely anti-consumer.
Purchasing Ubisoft's games is also optional.
completely abandoning ubishit is mandatory. i made that decision years ago. i never looked back.
No doubt the paywalled mission will be about 10-15 minutes tops
10-15 minutes but reveal something super important to the plot or give out the best gear in the game.
and itll probably be one of the least inspired side quests as well being super boring to do that 10-15 minutes of content
100% agree, thanks for covering!
Signed the peition. Hope something good comes of it.
Just like Mass Effect 3 day one DLC with the Prothean, “From Ashes”.
It’s optional but without it puts the story in a different light.
Gamers need a Bill of Rights to give protections for digital content.
This is similar to what inline passengers get when flying.
Otherwise, I’m done with games, consoles, and GPU.
All this money only to be screwed with every purchase.
With their revocation of my copy of The Crew, Mirage was my last Ubisoft purchase.
Imagine if that petition hits 100000.... or 200000. Ubisoft might panic.
Once again Ubisoft proving that it's always morally correct to pirate their games
Pay walling content has been a staple for ages. Eg Mass Effect 3's Javik character.
and copying Bioware is also a bad idea
Does not make it right ..
Why does everyone keep bringing up this example as if there aren't thousands more, some more recent?
I mean isn't all DLC for all games just "paywalled content"? Javik is DLC, and the base game wasn't really lacking anyway.
I'm not saying it's OK but pay walling content is not news, it's been done by AAA games for well over 10 years
🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ come join the seven seas brothers and sisters.
Game doesn't even look like it's worth pirating
Don't waste your time even doing that. Ubisoft isn't worth it. They don't have talented studios.
Did since 2005
YO HOHOH AND BOTTLE OF UBISOFT CORPO TEARS! Yaaar
Naaaah, I'm not playing this I already got Lego Star wars Skywalker saga which is pretty much an open world game, I wish ubisoft a good bankruptcy
Thank you for giving voice to things like this
Well said and really summarizes the worst parts of the gaming industry at the moment 🙏
I’ve learned that there are so many EXCELLENT games for so much cheaper, either because I didn’t get a chance to play them at release, or they’re not AAA.
Im so happy that ubisoft is comfortable with me never buying their games again
Side quests are more expensive now? That makes Skyrim a $10,000 game then.
When these types of games began, I was on deployment. We didn’t have WiFi on the ship back then, so the discs were useless.
In Australia the base version starts at $110 gold edition jumps to $169.95 and ultimate edition costs $200
I'm more than comfortable not owning Ubisoft games. They haven't made anything great since Black Flag lol. Don't even get me started on the Trials Fusion situation...