I think Kenny probably just assumed it was a cleaning product because it was called Spongeboy. The throwaway nature of “a mop or something” feels like he never actually knew what the product was.
Yeah, hearing "like a mop or something" doesn't mean "it was a mop" to me. He was probably thinking of those types of mops or Swiffer brooms that have a sponge/cloth attached to the end, which is a bit too specific to explain when you're in an interview talking about something super insignificant in the grand scheme of the interview.
@@-VoDkAsVengeance-regardless SpongeBoy sounds like a mop to me if they hadn't told me it was a pencil I would assume it's a mop or something. A mop and a pencil are equally basic objects on their own.
The thing is Tom Kenny says: "Like a mop or something." He may be a primary source, but he himself clearly wasn't sure either from the way he spoke. So weird how everyone took this as clear evidence.
i think over time it got misquoted and accidentally accepted as fact. they didn’t have anything else to go on either, so they took his words at face value is my guess
I wouldn't even call him a primary source, he's just the actor who does the voice He most likely doesn't have much to do with the actual early development of the show
I love debunking commonly passed urban legends/fun facts from my childhood. Just recently I found out that Snoop Dogg's brother in law that was killed in a police shootout was NOT the same guy who recorded the infamous Peanut Butter Jelly Time song. That was a dude named DJ Chipman, who's alive and well to this day.
@@idontwanthishandle If you had a nickel every time a hoax involved Snoop Dogg’s brother in law being killed in a police shootout, you would have 2 of them, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
I know I'm late, but technically speaking, both are true. Both Fuller and Chipman were in the Buckwheat Boyz, the band that produced the song. Fuller provided the lyrics. Chipman produced it.
I cannot believe Cerebus somehow got involved in this story. To give some context: The tower Cerebus and the Flaming Carrot are inside of is flying, like a rocket, towards the moon. That is why he found Sponge Boy inside it and why he said the top is "about two hundred and thirty thousand miles" away (average distance from the Earth to the Moon).
Both Cerebus and Flaming Carrot also had (separate) crossovers with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (which is the only reason I know of either of these characters).
I imagine a conversation going like this: "Why'd they change it to Spongebob?" "Spongeboy was taken I guess." "By who?" "I dunno a mop company or something"
The editing in this video is astounding. I loved how you incorporated Spongebob themes and references throughout the video. This video just feels like Spongebob. Probably some of the best editing I've ever seen.
Love when the love and passion someone has for something shows so clearly in their work. It's the best kind of art, the kind made by the people who care the most.
thank you for this necessary research and fact checking. i love the idea that tom kenny said "a mop or something" offhand a few times and it became an integral part of so many people's spongelore
11:20 I'm amazed at such a coincidence of the comic character being kidnapped by a hook and the existence of the hooks episode of spongebob that more or less followed the same theme of spongebob avoiding being hooked by a fishing hook and nearly being caught.
This is an unbelievable discovery. I remember looking for the original mop a while ago and wondering what happened, but this is the most research that's probably been done on the topic. Every one of your videos has been an absolute banger, but this has to be my favorite because it's SpongeBob 😳
I love how Vail enjoys other people’s content too. Maybe this video’s creator would be cool with Vail making a credited video about this topic for a mutual benefit
WOW not only have you done extensive research into the topic, but you gave the entire video a Spongebob vibe with visuals and fonts. As a graphic designer, I applaud you
@@kessiraye01 i know how hard it is to pull this off and still perfectly capture the vibe of the brand because i’ve had personal experience with it through my job. not sure why it bothers you so much lol
woah, hearing the Tom Kenney interview where he so naturally just slips right into the Spongebob voice was surreal. He just becomes a character without even thinking about it.
i mean it doesnt take much effort or thinking to do a voice for most peopl but it does feel weird cause you can kinda hear the spongebobness in his normal voice too
With how consistently the name “Sponge Boy” traces back to underground comics, I was half expecting a jab at the whole Bob Spongee lawsuit. That’s a whole other aspect of SpongeBob lore that’s been lost to time, but I was so happy to see this particular urban legend get cleared up.
@@youtubeaccountlol4942 if I remember correctly it was a comic shared locally with a character named bob sponge. After SpongeBob blew up in pop culture the creator tried to sue Nickelodeon for 1.6 billion dollars. I might be wrong about a few details but that’s what I remember
@@adrianpaul1985 In 2007, a frivolous lawsuit, claiming that a toy inventor named Troy Walker came up with the SpongeBob concept, was filed against Nickelodeon and Stephen Hillenburg by a plaintiff wanting a "ridiculous" total of $1.6 billion from Nickelodeon. The claimant, Troy Walker, did not do enough research on his claims before making them, setting his implausible story in 1991, years after Hillenburg had started work on his concept in 1984. A summary judgment quickly ruled in Viacom's favor over the flimsy claims.
Been a fan of SpongeBob for years and I never knew about the SpongeBoy thing, I'm glad this mistery I didn't knew existed 10 minutes ago has finally been resolved. Love from Argentina
12:05 I love the transition of "ONWARD" to just totally casual walking. Also just straight up failing to save his friend. If anything, I'm glad this whole ordeal introduced me to that comic.
In icelandic his name isn't Spongeboy, his name is actually just Sponge Son of Sveinn (Svampur Sveinsson) they used that because it sounds relatively similar to squarepants and it's a real last name so it works perfectly
Did not expect the flaming carrot to be mentioned. I only found out of his existence through tmnt, ciro nieli wanted him to appear in the 2012 turtles show since crossed over with turtles(in the original mirage run) before. So just let that sink in if it had happened
If that crossover with the 2012 TMNT did happened it would have been funny to see The Flaming Carrot in an official Nickelodeon show considering the connection Spongeboy and Spongebob have lol
Thanks so much for making this video. I'm a middle school English teacher and used it to teach about primary and secondary sources to my classes. You probably got several hundred views from that haha. This will be my go-to lesson for a long time when I'm teaching about sourcing.
I always found those claims that the "Spongeboy mop" was a common household name to be ridiculous. I've never heard of it outside of it being mentioned as the reason Spongebob's name was changed. Never heard of it before anywhere, and nowhere after.
Only one unofficial source even implied that, and they just said "commonly sold", which is also true of the sponge boy pencil yet I'd never heard of that either. Ive never heard of anyone claiming it was a common item. It was always really obscure.
I think I've only ever heard of this mop like once in passing so I never thought much of it. Your editing and visuals are really cool, and the research you put into this is very interesting. Although I don't think RUclips favors the time it takes for the quality, I hope more people find your channel because all your videos so far have been great!
I've actually never even heard of this theory, I honestly just assumed they changed the name because Spongebob sounds more original. Regardless of my unfamiliarity with the subject, the production value and editing on this was amazing, as per usual. That Flamming Carrot section was so good, actually makes me want to check the comic out
I'm not finished yet but this video is incredible. I have a ton of respect for anyone who does this level of research. Plus, it helps teach and encourage others to ask for and question sources, and not believe everything they hear. Subbed.
So, SpongeBob was unintentionally similar to SpongeBoy. SpongeBoy is the friend of The Flaming Carrot. The Flaming Carrot has met Cerebus. Cerebus has met Spawn. There is a line directly tracable from SpongeBob to Spawn.
I only recognize Spawn from a very long and complex line of legal battles leading to DC taking Captain Marvel from Marvel and turning them into Shazam, so the line goes even further into Marvel, which has done a Fortnite crossover, and Fortnite did a crossover with Dragon Ball. OR we can go to the DC route, which has done a Looney Toons crossover, which can go into Warner Brothers, and that can go into anything WB has made. Including JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6.
Spongebob does *not* know SpongeBoy, so how is there a direct line there to Spawn?? And the SpongeBoy that effected Spongbob's name-change was the single-panel comic art that ended up on the pencil, and *not* the comic book SpongeBoy from the Flaming Carrot series. You just took two giant leaps to make a connection that isn't there lmao.
You know, The Flaming Carrot was considered to appear in the 2012 TMNT series, but Nick didn't think kids would want to see that, so they wouldn't let them use the character. Could you imagine if they did and actually used Spongeboy? Anyway, yeah. Spongebob was much funnier anyway.
@@elmaionesosexo That's the difference between the network and the writers. I think Nick just didn't want to pay to use such an obscure characters, and part of me is just glad Usagi Yojimbo got to appear (at the end of the series). I can't imagine the disappointment on the part of the show runners for not being able to use another off beat indie comic from the 80's in the TMNT series.
@@Spongyboi897 If the Flaming Carrot was in the cartoon, you KNOW the Nick owned series would turn that into a reference. Unless of course Nick was hyper sensitive to the license (which they often are) and they had to obscure it.
I mean, this isn't that unreasonable. Pretty much every source was based on hearsay. They noticed a character called Spongeboy, likely trademarked, and didn't look into it too much. Someone could've said "a mop or a sponge or something" in the original conversation, and it just got passed down in a game of telephone. Then when people started recalling it, the rumored version took precedent in their minds so that's what they went with. Nobody really cared enough to check for the original reason, probably because the original reason, itself, was somebody noticing something and mentioning it in a meeting. Of course no one would remember the exact conversation from so long ago very well. I totally think it's the Flaming Carrot comic that did it.
The flaming carrot comic where the hook catches spongeboy is a lot like the episode "don't look now", maybe an inspiration of some sort? (also Hooky but it wasn't so similar)
This channel is so sick. This topic is immediately interesting. The SpongeBob CRT shots are great. Thanks for making quality content in this age era of mass-produced mediocrity.
I was curious about this, started when the "Spongeboy me bob" meme became viral and decided to check out Spongeboy the mop, couldn't find anything other than "It's a Spongebob Fact". Thank's for researching more! I already gave up due to laziness.
I had known about the the name change ever since I was a kid but I was always told there was another character named SpongeBoy not a product. I feel like one of the other SpongeBob books may have said this.
I actually love this breakdown, it has hilarious context to a few of the earlier episodes of Spngebob that I think were either references that didn't land with the audience at the time or (more likely) inside jokes from the people who created those episodes. I don't know if the doodle bob being born from a pencil was intentional, but either way, a pencil being one of the main concerns that lead to the name change makes having his evil doppelganger a drawing even more hilarious. The sky hook do feel like a direct poke at the Flaming Carrot though, which I think is a nice tough and fit in the Spongebob universe seamlessly.
Fun fact: My first impression of Spongebob was that he looked like Swiss cheese. I couldn't tell what the bloomin' heck Patrick was, as I didn't realize he and Spongebob were meant to be sea creatures until I think it got to a scene where he and Patrick get dehydrated and turn into a photo of a dried-out sponge and dried-out sea star. Also, love your dramatic reading of Flaming Carrot. Are you allowed to do Spongebob impressions in videos? I seem to recall hearing Nickelodeon trademarked his voice. Or is that just stopping Tom Kenny from talking like Spongebob without Nickolodeon getting money or something like that?
Even after realising the show takes place in the ocean, I didn’t realise Patrick was a starfish, and thought he was just a generic blobby creature. To me, he always just looks like a paler, cone-headed version of Grimace from McDonald’s.
Hey! At the bottom of that paper at 4:58 it has the Fruit Of The Loom logo which has the cornucopia in it! Fruit Of The Loom said it’s never had one in its logo and it’s one of those Mandela Effect things
Amazingly esoteric content. I love it. I've seen about an hour of Spongebob but I was still captivated by this story. Getting in on the ground floor with this channel lol
Hello, I live in Iceland and I want to correct something. "Svampur Sveinsson" does not mean SpongeBoy, it means "Sponge, Son of Boy". For context of the "Sveinsson" part, the last names in Iceland are not based on family names but based on the name of the father. Thor, Son of Odin is a good example of that naming system. If I had to guess, Google Translate probably led you to believe his name was SpongeBoy over here. Edit: "Sveinn" is a name here in Iceland so it could be "Son of Sveinn" as well.
And even if a foreign name did translate to "Sponge Boy" it would still be a completely different trademark and would have no bearing on the English-language name-change, let alone a US name-change. I'm surprised that BLS doesn't understand how trademarks work.
Leif Erikson is another example. His father was Erik Thorvaldson, and Thorvald Asvaldson was his father's father. So I guess SpongeBob's dad is named Boy, and Spongebob's son would be named something like Steve Spongeson.
@@JoaoPedro-ki7ct google TL does have a thing where users can input translations, so sometimes if you put something into google TL it might not give the exact same meaning for the reason of someone adding a translation (and with how big sponge-bob is it looks like that is what happened) what you could do is try translating with different service, yandex TL is one (though does source some translations from google TL), nother is DeepL but is much more limited in the language selection
Happy to see you make another video! I’m fascinated by these half-true, widespread claims. It reminds me of the claim that The Simpsons wasn’t popular in Japan because they have four fingers. Which always felt like a half-truth/lie. There was a recent video essay (by Slio) where he looked into that claim, and interviewed some Japanese fans. Mike Reiss, a Simpsons writer, repeated the four-finger answer in his book. I think people involved in those productions end up repeating these falsehoods because of a game of telephone. They hear it from a person in one department, it gets repeated…that sort of thing. So cool how much research you put into this! Those pencils are gonna end up in the Smithsonian. Edit: Simpson Essay by Slio ruclips.net/video/-djKwYhxd9Q/видео.html
A great video! Really loved the part about the Flaming Carrot, you could have just mentioned there was a character called like that on the comic, but instead you chose to show us a peek of what was the comic about and how i ended, it was a fun ride!
Interesting! I hadn't bothered to check who was using "SpongeBoy" myself, and it's fascinating to hear the real story behind it, and to dive into these sorts of niches in general. (Also, now I *really* want those pencils...)
I know it's a weird thing to comment on, but your voice work is fantastic. You pause at the perfect times for the perfect amounts of time, and your annunciation is great. You also just have a nice voice in general. Seriously, great stuff.
What a great video. I loved the part with Flaming Carrot; it can't be a coincidence that SpongeBob has an adventure with sky hooks himself in one episode somewhere.. Right? Love the reference!
This was my first introduction to your channel and I’m so shocked! It’s all severely well done! Thank you so much for finding the true answer to this mystery.
this videos super well done! i love the presentation and the spongebob crt, heck seeing you use the real font and even call it by name is really cool cause most spongebob videos dont research that kinda stuff, even the fact that you used the stereo versions of the bfbb music is awesome cause most people dont know those got released, major props, you for sure earned a sub!
Holy shit I was not expecting to see Cerebus in a video about SpongeBob. I actually read through some of the first few books earlier this year (which are, in and of themselves, a *hell* of a deep rabbithole) and I remember the story about Flaming Carrot pretty well, but forgot all about Sponge Boy until I saw it again in here. Excellent video.
I believe I've used those sports pencils as a kid. I want to say they were the really cheap kind, lol. The kind that when you sharpen them, the plastic print on the pencil would jam up the sharpener
@@KKHell Yeah, "sharpened," lol! The second that graphite hit the paper, it would snap off, and that was only you'd shaved it down in the sharpener without it breaking there, where it probably had a couple times already
Woah you just unlocked a deep memory with that one, I think I had ones with the Simpsons on or something or maybe even actual Spongebob ones but I know exactly what you're talking about with the pencil sharpener thing lmao. They always super thin and scratchy to write/draw with too.
Wow, what a discovery indeed. Who would've thought that the true origins of SpongeBob's original name were not connected to any mops at all? Also, I really dig the editing here. Nice work!
Just stumbled upon this video out of the blue. Just wanted to say I really like your style of editing. There wasn't a bunch of obnoxious text flashing across the screen that was hard to read and out of place memes thrown in to try and make it funny. It was just a really good presentation about Spongebob with a lot of good research put into it, the Flaming Carrot comic was very well voice acted, even the "SpongeBoy" font used throughout added a nice aesthetic to it.
Thank you for debunking the SpongeBoy mop claim. Ever since I first heard about it, I knew something was fishy. However, I didn't have the energy or time to actually look into it myself.
@01:39 Icelander here, Svampur Sveinsson directly translates to Sponge Sveinsson. Even though sveinn can mean boy it's not a commonly used word and is more common as a first or middle name. In this context it would mean that his father's name was Sveinn (Sveinsson = son of Sveinn). I think Sveinsson was chosen simply because it's phonetically melodic. :)
@@PlanetBloopy Shortly after I wrote that comment, I looked it up too and I was quite irritated that it bad been edited. It did have a Cornucopia, I know it did. It's not something to joke about lol
Holy crap this is a great vid but I found something at 5:00 idk if it counts but that's the fruit of the loom logo with the cornucopia in it. It's to the left right next to Alan Jackson's face lol.
I couldn't have been more happy when finding and then watching this video. I love videos like this, that tell facts and little backstories for well known shows.
I think another issue was that it was stated that you can take an inanimate object and add boy at the end to make it come alive. But it isn’t exactly the most unique way to name a character. I wouldn’t be surprised if the legal team also just wanted a name that was more unique and easier to protect in general
I always thought nick didn't like the name so they told legal department to tell the crew a lie so the creators would get mad at an imaginary mop and not the nick higher ups
Something that haunts my memory to this day from this show is back when Jimmy Neutron was about to come out he steps out during the "Hooks" episode while they are playing on the hooks and turns spongebob and patrick into marionettes/ EVERYBODY I have told this story to has never seen that happen. If I remember correctly this was right before the Jimmy Neutron movie came out or was airing so Nick was using that as a way to spread word about the show. It makes me wonder if they did any other wacky stuff like that during the airing of the movie.
1:27 Squidwardd here inadvertently almost hitting on the truth with the comic answer so early on (probably not referring to the strip but still) is funny.
Wow this is such a great video and deep dive and i really enjoyed the flaming carrot dubs :') id love too watch a whole video of dubbed flaming carrot!!
I think Kenny probably just assumed it was a cleaning product because it was called Spongeboy. The throwaway nature of “a mop or something” feels like he never actually knew what the product was.
Yeah, that legit makes sense
Yeah people will latch onto any tiny factoid and turn into the truth
Yeah it seems like all he knew was that it got changed for some reason, and he’s just throwing out a possibility as to why they would have done that.
Yeah, the fact he attaches “or something” presumably means that he didn’t know and just assumed
He was correct technically, a pencil is a something.
I think what happened is the legal team didn't say what had the copyright, so Tom just guessed it was a mop, which over time became a fact.
Tbh that's probably what I would think a product with the name SpongeBoy was.
@@switchplayer1016 honestly
I suppose technically a "factoid"
Yeah, hearing "like a mop or something" doesn't mean "it was a mop" to me. He was probably thinking of those types of mops or Swiffer brooms that have a sponge/cloth attached to the end, which is a bit too specific to explain when you're in an interview talking about something super insignificant in the grand scheme of the interview.
@@-VoDkAsVengeance-regardless SpongeBoy sounds like a mop to me if they hadn't told me it was a pencil I would assume it's a mop or something. A mop and a pencil are equally basic objects on their own.
The thing is Tom Kenny says: "Like a mop or something." He may be a primary source, but he himself clearly wasn't sure either from the way he spoke. So weird how everyone took this as clear evidence.
i think over time it got misquoted and accidentally accepted as fact. they didn’t have anything else to go on either, so they took his words at face value is my guess
people are sheep and will believe anything, simple as that.
I wouldn't even call him a primary source, he's just the actor who does the voice
He most likely doesn't have much to do with the actual early development of the show
@@robroy6374 a sheep over a SpongeBob fact 💀💀💀
@@ArcXDZ uh, no.
I love debunking commonly passed urban legends/fun facts from my childhood. Just recently I found out that Snoop Dogg's brother in law that was killed in a police shootout was NOT the same guy who recorded the infamous Peanut Butter Jelly Time song. That was a dude named DJ Chipman, who's alive and well to this day.
Chipmans alive?
this is the second time ive seen a hoax about someone being the person that was snoop dogg's brother in law dying in a police shootout
@@idontwanthishandle If you had a nickel every time a hoax involved Snoop Dogg’s brother in law being killed in a police shootout, you would have 2 of them, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
@@idontwanthishandleSame
I know I'm late, but technically speaking, both are true. Both Fuller and Chipman were in the Buckwheat Boyz, the band that produced the song. Fuller provided the lyrics. Chipman produced it.
I cannot believe Cerebus somehow got involved in this story. To give some context:
The tower Cerebus and the Flaming Carrot are inside of is flying, like a rocket, towards the moon. That is why he found Sponge Boy inside it and why he said the top is "about two hundred and thirty thousand miles" away (average distance from the Earth to the Moon).
Both Cerebus and Flaming Carrot also had (separate) crossovers with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (which is the only reason I know of either of these characters).
Ah yes, Cerberus the 4 headed cat.
I honestly mostly just know Cerebus cause of Cerebus Syndrome lmao
@@KasumiKenshirouEVERY. SINGLE. THING. I hear about flaming carrot just makes it more and more amazing, i gotta find some of thoose for myself
@@supercoolperson2 Cerebus is a comic series, not a mispelling if that's what you're getting at
I imagine a conversation going like this:
"Why'd they change it to Spongebob?"
"Spongeboy was taken I guess."
"By who?"
"I dunno a mop company or something"
This is accurate in my opinion
“Which mop company?”
“We don’t know”
“Let’s find out”
Probably how the rumor initially started and it just spread from there.
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I participated in this exact conversation before
This is the most wierdly consistent "fact" that people keep bringing up when talking about SpongeBob's beginning. Excited for what's to come.
Spongeboy was a pencil A FUCKING PENCIL!!!
@@PICTURE-. bruh
@@PICTURE-. P E N C E L
It's like the "fact" about swallowing spiders in your sleep. You dig around and find that it's all cyclical referencing
And the fact that my childhood was a lie the whole time.
The editing in this video is astounding. I loved how you incorporated Spongebob themes and references throughout the video. This video just feels like Spongebob. Probably some of the best editing I've ever seen.
I know, and this dude only has like 6 videos, will definitely be subbing for more
Love when the love and passion someone has for something shows so clearly in their work. It's the best kind of art, the kind made by the people who care the most.
thank you for this necessary research and fact checking. i love the idea that tom kenny said "a mop or something" offhand a few times and it became an integral part of so many people's spongelore
The number of times humans in the English speaking world made something named "Sponge Boy" is astounding.
flaming carrot is actually badass, why is this my first time hearing of him?!
Maybe because he didn't had anything beyond comics that were ended in 1997
It sounds a lot like The Tick comics. No, they are not at all similar to the cartoon or Patrick Warburton sitcom adaptations.
I want more flaming carrot and by god what did sponge boy do on his birthday to survive
Maybe this is why Rob Schneider took the role of a Carrot in that one South Park episode. Watch out MCU
@@justyumi4410 "Rob Schneider, what a twit!" Also I love everything about your profile.
11:20 I'm amazed at such a coincidence of the comic character being kidnapped by a hook and the existence of the hooks episode of spongebob that more or less followed the same theme of spongebob avoiding being hooked by a fishing hook and nearly being caught.
I wonder If that comic was the ibspiration for the episode.
*_”What did I tell you about those hooks, boy?”_*
And here I am wondering if the Spongeboy pencil was the inspiration for Doodlebob episode
no coincidence, just lazy writing
@@raydhen8840no coincidence there…writers and artists are lazy and vindictive at times
This is an unbelievable discovery. I remember looking for the original mop a while ago and wondering what happened, but this is the most research that's probably been done on the topic.
Every one of your videos has been an absolute banger, but this has to be my favorite because it's SpongeBob 😳
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Holy crap dude what are you doing here lol
@@sillydog First one to tell you nobody asked 😎
joke please don't end me
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs in harmony
I love how Vail enjoys other people’s content too.
Maybe this video’s creator would be cool with Vail making a credited video about this topic for a mutual benefit
WOW not only have you done extensive research into the topic, but you gave the entire video a Spongebob vibe with visuals and fonts. As a graphic designer, I applaud you
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@@kessiraye01 cry about it ☺️
@@donnadelrey your education has nothing to do with your comment, mald
@@kessiraye01 i know how hard it is to pull this off and still perfectly capture the vibe of the brand because i’ve had personal experience with it through my job. not sure why it bothers you so much lol
@@donnadelrey womp womp
10:36 hey that's me!! I've had this pfp for years and never thought to see it in a video.
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woah, hearing the Tom Kenney interview where he so naturally just slips right into the Spongebob voice was surreal. He just becomes a character without even thinking about it.
i mean it doesnt take much effort or thinking to do a voice for most peopl but it does feel weird cause you can kinda hear the spongebobness in his normal voice too
pretty sure he did it intentionally but it caught me off guard
I met Billy West at a convention and he went from Ren and Stimpy to every Futurama voice within 30 seconds. They're so damn talented
With how consistently the name “Sponge Boy” traces back to underground comics, I was half expecting a jab at the whole Bob Spongee lawsuit. That’s a whole other aspect of SpongeBob lore that’s been lost to time, but I was so happy to see this particular urban legend get cleared up.
What's the bob spongee lawsuit . .
@@youtubeaccountlol4942 another mystery
@@adrianpaul1985 One I want to know.
@@youtubeaccountlol4942 if I remember correctly it was a comic shared locally with a character named bob sponge. After SpongeBob blew up in pop culture the creator tried to sue Nickelodeon for 1.6 billion dollars. I might be wrong about a few details but that’s what I remember
@@adrianpaul1985 In 2007, a frivolous lawsuit, claiming that a toy inventor named Troy Walker came up with the SpongeBob concept, was filed against Nickelodeon and Stephen Hillenburg by a plaintiff wanting a "ridiculous" total of $1.6 billion from Nickelodeon. The claimant, Troy Walker, did not do enough research on his claims before making them, setting his implausible story in 1991, years after Hillenburg had started work on his concept in 1984. A summary judgment quickly ruled in Viacom's favor over the flimsy claims.
Been a fan of SpongeBob for years and I never knew about the SpongeBoy thing, I'm glad this mistery I didn't knew existed 10 minutes ago has finally been resolved. Love from Argentina
My childhood was a lie.
Get some love back because of Messi! Argentina rocks!
I agree. That thing I just learned about has been eating away at me _for ever!_
I love Argentina, beautiful people. Love from Argentina
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12:05 I love the transition of "ONWARD" to just totally casual walking. Also just straight up failing to save his friend. If anything, I'm glad this whole ordeal introduced me to that comic.
That reading of Flaming Carrot was too good. I'm glad Spongeboy had a good birthday with the moon goons
I was dying it was definitely the best part of the video.
There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy…
There is NO SpongeBoy™ Mop!
In icelandic his name isn't Spongeboy, his name is actually just Sponge Son of Sveinn (Svampur Sveinsson) they used that because it sounds relatively similar to squarepants and it's a real last name so it works perfectly
So we kind of know the name of SpongeBob’s dad.
@@Periwinkleaccount so Haroldson then?
That's kinda cursed ngl
Patronymic surnames seem like a massive pain.
@@bigfennec not really, never noticed anything off or anything
Did not expect the flaming carrot to be mentioned. I only found out of his existence through tmnt, ciro nieli wanted him to appear in the 2012 turtles show since crossed over with turtles(in the original mirage run) before. So just let that sink in if it had happened
The best superhero of all time, I carrot but he has some hair that’s fire. Go flaming carrot!
Don't forget the Flaming Carrot became the basis for Mystery Men!
@@jackblack3718 HOLY SHIT I LOVE THAT FUCKING MOVIE AND TO THINK FLAMING CAROT WAS THE CAUSE OF IT
@@jackblack3718 Please tell us more how flaming carrot was the origin for Mystery Men.
If that crossover with the 2012 TMNT did happened it would have been funny to see The Flaming Carrot in an official Nickelodeon show considering the connection Spongeboy and Spongebob have lol
Thanks so much for making this video. I'm a middle school English teacher and used it to teach about primary and secondary sources to my classes. You probably got several hundred views from that haha. This will be my go-to lesson for a long time when I'm teaching about sourcing.
I always found those claims that the "Spongeboy mop" was a common household name to be ridiculous. I've never heard of it outside of it being mentioned as the reason Spongebob's name was changed. Never heard of it before anywhere, and nowhere after.
Only one unofficial source even implied that, and they just said "commonly sold", which is also true of the sponge boy pencil yet I'd never heard of that either.
Ive never heard of anyone claiming it was a common item. It was always really obscure.
I think I've only ever heard of this mop like once in passing so I never thought much of it. Your editing and visuals are really cool, and the research you put into this is very interesting. Although I don't think RUclips favors the time it takes for the quality, I hope more people find your channel because all your videos so far have been great!
Big mop once again using its power to kick down the animation industry
This is yet another example of how it's nearly impossible to find 100% true information online, especially about more obscure subjects. Great video!
What strikes me most about this well documented, well edited video Is how it eventually reached an obscure Cerebus issue and even reads it.
This means there’s an alternate universe where both the names were taken, and the character was named Spongebop.
Spongebeep
Spongejeep
I've actually never even heard of this theory, I honestly just assumed they changed the name because Spongebob sounds more original. Regardless of my unfamiliarity with the subject, the production value and editing on this was amazing, as per usual. That Flamming Carrot section was so good, actually makes me want to check the comic out
It is fact
I'm not finished yet but this video is incredible. I have a ton of respect for anyone who does this level of research. Plus, it helps teach and encourage others to ask for and question sources, and not believe everything they hear. Subbed.
So, SpongeBob was unintentionally similar to SpongeBoy. SpongeBoy is the friend of The Flaming Carrot. The Flaming Carrot has met Cerebus. Cerebus has met Spawn.
There is a line directly tracable from SpongeBob to Spawn.
I only recognize Spawn from a very long and complex line of legal battles leading to DC taking Captain Marvel from Marvel and turning them into Shazam, so the line goes even further into Marvel, which has done a Fortnite crossover, and Fortnite did a crossover with Dragon Ball. OR we can go to the DC route, which has done a Looney Toons crossover, which can go into Warner Brothers, and that can go into anything WB has made.
Including JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6.
the fact that it connects to cerebus is already fuckin wild
@@optimisticwatermelon So we can go from JJBA6 to Doug apparently.
@@ExtremeWreck Yes.
Spongebob does *not* know SpongeBoy, so how is there a direct line there to Spawn?? And the SpongeBoy that effected Spongbob's name-change was the single-panel comic art that ended up on the pencil, and *not* the comic book SpongeBoy from the Flaming Carrot series. You just took two giant leaps to make a connection that isn't there lmao.
I love your outro music. It perfectly encapsulates the 90's TV shows growing up as a kid.
the amount of research, the quality production... this channel is so underrated!! i just need more vids ;--;
You know, The Flaming Carrot was considered to appear in the 2012 TMNT series, but Nick didn't think kids would want to see that, so they wouldn't let them use the character. Could you imagine if they did and actually used Spongeboy?
Anyway, yeah. Spongebob was much funnier anyway.
such a missed opportunity for 2012 TMNT
@@elmaionesosexo That's the difference between the network and the writers. I think Nick just didn't want to pay to use such an obscure characters, and part of me is just glad Usagi Yojimbo got to appear (at the end of the series). I can't imagine the disappointment on the part of the show runners for not being able to use another off beat indie comic from the 80's in the TMNT series.
I could imagine SpongeBoy having a voice similar to SpongeBob, and actually wearing a red tie
@@Spongyboi897 If the Flaming Carrot was in the cartoon, you KNOW the Nick owned series would turn that into a reference. Unless of course Nick was hyper sensitive to the license (which they often are) and they had to obscure it.
Imagine if they had gotten Tom Kenny to voice Spongeboy in TMNT 2012
Those custom CRT b-roll shots are absolutely awesome, and the custom voiceovers! Super cool. Love how you go the extra mile for these!
I mean, this isn't that unreasonable. Pretty much every source was based on hearsay. They noticed a character called Spongeboy, likely trademarked, and didn't look into it too much. Someone could've said "a mop or a sponge or something" in the original conversation, and it just got passed down in a game of telephone. Then when people started recalling it, the rumored version took precedent in their minds so that's what they went with. Nobody really cared enough to check for the original reason, probably because the original reason, itself, was somebody noticing something and mentioning it in a meeting. Of course no one would remember the exact conversation from so long ago very well.
I totally think it's the Flaming Carrot comic that did it.
Man this video was so well written throughout. The narration, the editing - Great job on all of it
All of the spongebob clips and memes perfectly added at the right times really make this video feel warm
The flaming carrot comic where the hook catches spongeboy is a lot like the episode "don't look now", maybe an inspiration of some sort? (also Hooky but it wasn't so similar)
This is such a pedantic, useless video. I love it so much, amazingly edited and scripted, a wonderful watch.
It's useful in how it shows how easily misinformation can spread
I'll be vague so I don't spoil the video, but after seeing the SpongeBoy [product] I can absolutely see why Nick's legal team was worried.
Looks like Patrick
I'm literally a researcher and I'm flabbergasted by the amount of research that went into this - well done this is so satisfying to watch!!!
Adds more context to the line “SpongeBoy me Bob!”
A pencil is a wooden rod that can clean stuff off of a surface with its eraser, that's a mop in my book.
This channel is so sick. This topic is immediately interesting. The SpongeBob CRT shots are great.
Thanks for making quality content in this age era of mass-produced mediocrity.
Age era of mass produced mediocrity? As in the last century and a half we have been able to mass produce media for a mostly literate populace?
I was curious about this, started when the "Spongeboy me bob" meme became viral and decided to check out Spongeboy the mop, couldn't find anything other than "It's a Spongebob Fact". Thank's for researching more! I already gave up due to laziness.
4:58 Is that a Fruit of the Loom logo WITH a cornucopia out in the wild?
I had known about the the name change ever since I was a kid but I was always told there was another character named SpongeBoy not a product. I feel like one of the other SpongeBob books may have said this.
An inspiring video! Very very good work here! This is the sort of stuff that inspires me to make content.
Surprised to see you here quinton
Ah an actual content creator I see. Keep up the progress.
I actually love this breakdown, it has hilarious context to a few of the earlier episodes of Spngebob that I think were either references that didn't land with the audience at the time or (more likely) inside jokes from the people who created those episodes. I don't know if the doodle bob being born from a pencil was intentional, but either way, a pencil being one of the main concerns that lead to the name change makes having his evil doppelganger a drawing even more hilarious. The sky hook do feel like a direct poke at the Flaming Carrot though, which I think is a nice tough and fit in the Spongebob universe seamlessly.
so glad you made this. the whole mop story always confused me because i too could never find any evidence about the mop.
Fun fact: My first impression of Spongebob was that he looked like Swiss cheese. I couldn't tell what the bloomin' heck Patrick was, as I didn't realize he and Spongebob were meant to be sea creatures until I think it got to a scene where he and Patrick get dehydrated and turn into a photo of a dried-out sponge and dried-out sea star.
Also, love your dramatic reading of Flaming Carrot. Are you allowed to do Spongebob impressions in videos? I seem to recall hearing Nickelodeon trademarked his voice. Or is that just stopping Tom Kenny from talking like Spongebob without Nickolodeon getting money or something like that?
Even after realising the show takes place in the ocean, I didn’t realise Patrick was a starfish, and thought he was just a generic blobby creature. To me, he always just looks like a paler, cone-headed version of Grimace from McDonald’s.
But...but...its in the name
@@erinkinsella91
I switched the channel to it mid-episode, so I didn't learn his name for a bit, ha ha.
Hey! At the bottom of that paper at 4:58 it has the Fruit Of The Loom logo which has the cornucopia in it! Fruit Of The Loom said it’s never had one in its logo and it’s one of those Mandela Effect things
Damn good find
What does it mean?
@@wvminecraftkid It means there's mischief afoot.
11:15 Suddenly it makes sense why the comic is 3D
This video is top tier! The voice actors did a great job!
Amazingly esoteric content. I love it. I've seen about an hour of Spongebob but I was still captivated by this story. Getting in on the ground floor with this channel lol
13:25 the 'ooo' made me laugh so hard
13:41 I'm getting the eclipse vibes from Berserk here. They definitely took inspiration from it.
Hello, I live in Iceland and I want to correct something. "Svampur Sveinsson" does not mean SpongeBoy, it means "Sponge, Son of Boy".
For context of the "Sveinsson" part, the last names in Iceland are not based on family names but based on the name of the father. Thor, Son of Odin is a good example of that naming system.
If I had to guess, Google Translate probably led you to believe his name was SpongeBoy over here.
Edit: "Sveinn" is a name here in Iceland so it could be "Son of Sveinn" as well.
Interesting, because when I put it in translate, it came back as SpongeBob SquarePants. Hmmmm. But I believe you!
@@JacobHayden911 Because it's a substantive, and Google Translate sometimes is able to understand the context.
And even if a foreign name did translate to "Sponge Boy" it would still be a completely different trademark and would have no bearing on the English-language name-change, let alone a US name-change. I'm surprised that BLS doesn't understand how trademarks work.
Leif Erikson is another example. His father was Erik Thorvaldson, and Thorvald Asvaldson was his father's father. So I guess SpongeBob's dad is named Boy, and Spongebob's son would be named something like Steve Spongeson.
@@JoaoPedro-ki7ct google TL does have a thing where users can input translations, so sometimes if you put something into google TL it might not give the exact same meaning for the reason of someone adding a translation (and with how big sponge-bob is it looks like that is what happened) what you could do is try translating with different service, yandex TL is one (though does source some translations from google TL), nother is DeepL but is much more limited in the language selection
Happy to see you make another video! I’m fascinated by these half-true, widespread claims. It reminds me of the claim that The Simpsons wasn’t popular in Japan because they have four fingers. Which always felt like a half-truth/lie. There was a recent video essay (by Slio) where he looked into that claim, and interviewed some Japanese fans. Mike Reiss, a Simpsons writer, repeated the four-finger answer in his book. I think people involved in those productions end up repeating these falsehoods because of a game of telephone. They hear it from a person in one department, it gets repeated…that sort of thing.
So cool how much research you put into this! Those pencils are gonna end up in the Smithsonian.
Edit: Simpson Essay by Slio ruclips.net/video/-djKwYhxd9Q/видео.html
Do you have a link
@@Pacmanfan-po9rn ruclips.net/video/-djKwYhxd9Q/видео.html
nothing shows up with "silo video essay" or "silo simpsons". who?
@@alkyycarovny8334 ruclips.net/video/-djKwYhxd9Q/видео.html
The reason why the Simpsons isn't as popular in Japan because it has a more mean sarcastic style of humor than most things in Japan.
The amount of Spongebob references you packed into this is mind boggling, thank you for this wonderful video!
A great video! Really loved the part about the Flaming Carrot, you could have just mentioned there was a character called like that on the comic, but instead you chose to show us a peek of what was the comic about and how i ended, it was a fun ride!
4:29 lol Tom Kenny changes voice 😂
This is the highest quality video I’ve ever seen. From the clips to the editing to the voice acting for the comics it’s all stunning
14:52 I kinda like these original more exaggerated ditzy designs. I can see why they didnt adhere to it too much but its cute.
Interesting! I hadn't bothered to check who was using "SpongeBoy" myself, and it's fascinating to hear the real story behind it, and to dive into these sorts of niches in general. (Also, now I *really* want those pencils...)
YOOO IS SPONGEDUBS
I know it's a weird thing to comment on, but your voice work is fantastic. You pause at the perfect times for the perfect amounts of time, and your annunciation is great. You also just have a nice voice in general. Seriously, great stuff.
i wanted to say this. dude just speaks incredibly well. makes you want to come back and just listen to relax like a classic radio host
What a great video. I loved the part with Flaming Carrot; it can't be a coincidence that SpongeBob has an adventure with sky hooks himself in one episode somewhere.. Right? Love the reference!
This was my first introduction to your channel and I’m so shocked! It’s all severely well done! Thank you so much for finding the true answer to this mystery.
this videos super well done! i love the presentation and the spongebob crt, heck seeing you use the real font and even call it by name is really cool cause most spongebob videos dont research that kinda stuff, even the fact that you used the stereo versions of the bfbb music is awesome cause most people dont know those got released, major props, you for sure earned a sub!
Holy shit I was not expecting to see Cerebus in a video about SpongeBob. I actually read through some of the first few books earlier this year (which are, in and of themselves, a *hell* of a deep rabbithole) and I remember the story about Flaming Carrot pretty well, but forgot all about Sponge Boy until I saw it again in here.
Excellent video.
I love the fact the entire video is just filled with battle for bikini bottom osts, brings back many memories
1:18 I actually still own one of those little TVs lol, along with the little disc player and remote it came with, all SpongeBob themed
I believe I've used those sports pencils as a kid. I want to say they were the really cheap kind, lol. The kind that when you sharpen them, the plastic print on the pencil would jam up the sharpener
You likely have.
I don't doubt it.
@@KKHell Yeah, "sharpened," lol! The second that graphite hit the paper, it would snap off, and that was only you'd shaved it down in the sharpener without it breaking there, where it probably had a couple times already
I remember getting a pack of yugioh branded pencils, but they were so cheap the whole plastic fell off of them after 1 sharpening
Woah you just unlocked a deep memory with that one, I think I had ones with the Simpsons on or something or maybe even actual Spongebob ones but I know exactly what you're talking about with the pencil sharpener thing lmao. They always super thin and scratchy to write/draw with too.
2:29 So happy to see you included that mention of the SpongeBoy name on the show's first DVD release.
Anyone else notice at 4:58 the Alan Jackson ad presented by Fruit of the Loom has a cornucopia??
Wow, what a discovery indeed. Who would've thought that the true origins of SpongeBob's original name were not connected to any mops at all? Also, I really dig the editing here. Nice work!
Just stumbled upon this video out of the blue. Just wanted to say I really like your style of editing. There wasn't a bunch of obnoxious text flashing across the screen that was hard to read and out of place memes thrown in to try and make it funny. It was just a really good presentation about Spongebob with a lot of good research put into it, the Flaming Carrot comic was very well voice acted, even the "SpongeBoy" font used throughout added a nice aesthetic to it.
Best editing I've seen in a WHILE. Don't change. It made it so enjoyable to watch. I thought the video was a YTP at first ahaha
14:42 "Oh, so now the TALKING CHEESE is going to PREACH to us?!" 😂
😂
theres also an episode where, after losing his memory, spongebob gets named "cheeseman brownpants" by some strangers!
@@_p1xI saw that episode
I love how you set it up to be a conspiracy around Tom Kenny’s verbal account just to pull the rug and reveal the trademark to be a pencil.
Thank you for debunking the SpongeBoy mop claim. Ever since I first heard about it, I knew something was fishy. However, I didn't have the energy or time to actually look into it myself.
Hehe...fishy
@01:39 Icelander here, Svampur Sveinsson directly translates to Sponge Sveinsson. Even though sveinn can mean boy it's not a commonly used word and is more common as a first or middle name. In this context it would mean that his father's name was Sveinn (Sveinsson = son of Sveinn). I think Sveinsson was chosen simply because it's phonetically melodic. :)
I love how a simple cartoon like Spongebob had the craziest theories and facts.
HOLY SHIT is that a Spyro GBA sound effect at 6:43? If so, big kudos for such a nostalgic little detail!
9:31 the amount of nostalgia you just caused is unreal
Those pencils are so shit lol
@@sumkid9263 still nostalgia
@@hubris_ssbww2 stinks
Why has nobody pointed out the Cornucopia on the Fruit of the Loom logo at 5:00?
It's been edited here as a joke. I just had to check the original paper (Tampa Bay Times).
lol i was just abt to say
@@PlanetBloopy Shortly after I wrote that comment, I looked it up too and I was quite irritated that it bad been edited. It did have a Cornucopia, I know it did. It's not something to joke about lol
I love the references and turns of phrase in this video. "Set your belts to wumbo" is the perfect way to end an intro.
Holy crap this is a great vid but I found something at 5:00 idk if it counts but that's the fruit of the loom logo with the cornucopia in it. It's to the left right next to Alan Jackson's face lol.
Incredible production, amazing how quickly misinformation spreads.
I couldn't have been more happy when finding and then watching this video. I love videos like this, that tell facts and little backstories for well known shows.
10:57
Mr Krabs: The hooks! THE HOOKS!
I think another issue was that it was stated that you can take an inanimate object and add boy at the end to make it come alive. But it isn’t exactly the most unique way to name a character. I wouldn’t be surprised if the legal team also just wanted a name that was more unique and easier to protect in general
I always thought nick didn't like the name so they told legal department to tell the crew a lie so the creators would get mad at an imaginary mop and not the nick higher ups
It genuinely makes me so happy when people put this much effort into researching cartoons or video games.
Something that haunts my memory to this day from this show is back when Jimmy Neutron was about to come out he steps out during the "Hooks" episode while they are playing on the hooks and turns spongebob and patrick into marionettes/ EVERYBODY I have told this story to has never seen that happen. If I remember correctly this was right before the Jimmy Neutron movie came out or was airing so Nick was using that as a way to spread word about the show. It makes me wonder if they did any other wacky stuff like that during the airing of the movie.
1:27 Squidwardd here inadvertently almost hitting on the truth with the comic answer so early on (probably not referring to the strip but still) is funny.
Wow this is such a great video and deep dive and i really enjoyed the flaming carrot dubs :') id love too watch a whole video of dubbed flaming carrot!!