Wow, thank you so much for your explanations. I have watched many videos on scapular motion and yours is by far most insightful and visually approachable to me. Thank you again. Much appreciated
Will be waiting for the video on “exercises that cause the shoulder blade motion”. Awesome video btw, I’m really interested in learning about the shoulder and upper back.
Happy to report that video is finally here! ruclips.net/video/MgmwzWmGS1M/видео.html Thanks for the kind words :) hope this series is helpful for you in understanding the shoulder and upper back a bit more! I'll likely do a series similar to this one on the shoulder joint itself at some point, which should add some further context to the area.
Thanks for the excellent video. Two questions: how do the scapulae move in a lat spread and how much of the width of the upper part of the lat spread is due to the teres major vs the latissimus dorsi itself?
Hey these are interesting questions. If I understand properly (please let me know if I’m missing it though) the lateral spread comes from the protraction motion when you roll your shoulders forward. That would be coming from Serratus Ant and Pec Minor predominantly. Teres Maj and Lats don’t actually move the scapula at all. Does that help answer your questions?
Thanks for your answer. The scapulae do seem to protract in this movement exactly as you describe, but this raises a couple further questions. Re my original first question, scapular protraction seems to push the latissimus and teres major muscles out laterally, but do the lower parts of the scapulae also rotate outward in this movement? It seems like the visible width of the lat spread is due entirely to scapular motion pushing those muscles out laterally, not due to any contraction of the latissimus or teres muscles themselves; is this correct? Re my original second question, in weight training circles the common assumption seems to be that the visible width of the lat spread is due almost entirely to development of the latissimus dorsi alone, but when I look at anatomical illustrations, it seems like the teres major might contribute more to the visible width of the upper part of the spread. Is this right, or does the teres major contribute little to the appearance of the spread?
Thanks for the comment! That can definitely be a future video. Are you more interested in just a video covering the hypermobile shoulder in general, or exercises to stabilize?
Good point! The pec minor can definitely be a part if scapular depression. I often clinically implicate it more with rotation, but it has a role in both! The logistical reason I didn’t (to be very honest) was to keep all the muscles I included for scapular depression on the posterior aspect of the body. I felt it was easier to understand visually/conceptually that way. Thanks for checking out the channel!
Really depends on the individual and the situation! Hypermobility can be in different directions, so hard to know without seeing a specific shoulder case. Generally speaking though, a lot of hyper mobility cases benefit from posterior shoulder strengthening (back of the shoulder). Training muscles like the posterior deltoid, infraspinatus, trees minor, and other scapular muscles can all help support the joint. Thanks for the question!
Glad it was helpful! I like to incorporate references from different places haha didn't think I had a DND in this one though, that may have been unintentional!
Wow, thank you so much for your explanations. I have watched many videos on scapular motion and yours is by far most insightful and visually approachable to me. Thank you again. Much appreciated
Will be waiting for the video on “exercises that cause the shoulder blade motion”. Awesome video btw, I’m really interested in learning about the shoulder and upper back.
Happy to report that video is finally here!
ruclips.net/video/MgmwzWmGS1M/видео.html
Thanks for the kind words :) hope this series is helpful for you in understanding the shoulder and upper back a bit more!
I'll likely do a series similar to this one on the shoulder joint itself at some point, which should add some further context to the area.
This is a great video, I’m learning so much from this. Thank you!
Glad to hear it was helpful! Thanks for checking out the channel :)
Thanks for the excellent video. Two questions: how do the scapulae move in a lat spread and how much of the width of the upper part of the lat spread is due to the teres major vs the latissimus dorsi itself?
Hey these are interesting questions. If I understand properly (please let me know if I’m missing it though) the lateral spread comes from the protraction motion when you roll your shoulders forward. That would be coming from Serratus Ant and Pec Minor predominantly. Teres Maj and Lats don’t actually move the scapula at all.
Does that help answer your questions?
Thanks for your answer. The scapulae do seem to protract in this movement exactly as you describe, but this raises a couple further questions. Re my original first question, scapular protraction seems to push the latissimus and teres major muscles out laterally, but do the lower parts of the scapulae also rotate outward in this movement? It seems like the visible width of the lat spread is due entirely to scapular motion pushing those muscles out laterally, not due to any contraction of the latissimus or teres muscles themselves; is this correct? Re my original second question, in weight training circles the common assumption seems to be that the visible width of the lat spread is due almost entirely to development of the latissimus dorsi alone, but when I look at anatomical illustrations, it seems like the teres major might contribute more to the visible width of the upper part of the spread. Is this right, or does the teres major contribute little to the appearance of the spread?
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Brother plzzz put video on hypermobile shoulder plzzz bro
Thanks for the comment! That can definitely be a future video. Are you more interested in just a video covering the hypermobile shoulder in general, or exercises to stabilize?
Great video! I noticed you didn’t mention Pec Minor as a scapular depressor. Is there a reason for this? Thanks in advance
Good point! The pec minor can definitely be a part if scapular depression. I often clinically implicate it more with rotation, but it has a role in both!
The logistical reason I didn’t (to be very honest) was to keep all the muscles I included for scapular depression on the posterior aspect of the body. I felt it was easier to understand visually/conceptually that way.
Thanks for checking out the channel!
And which muscles, we can working on it ?
ruclips.net/video/MgmwzWmGS1M/видео.html The newest video in the series might help give you some context here!
And which muscles become weak when someone having hypermobile shoulder
Really depends on the individual and the situation! Hypermobility can be in different directions, so hard to know without seeing a specific shoulder case.
Generally speaking though, a lot of hyper mobility cases benefit from posterior shoulder strengthening (back of the shoulder). Training muscles like the posterior deltoid, infraspinatus, trees minor, and other scapular muscles can all help support the joint.
Thanks for the question!
This video help me for my NPTEexam,the card was from dungeon and dragons???
Glad it was helpful! I like to incorporate references from different places haha didn't think I had a DND in this one though, that may have been unintentional!