It’s fake it’s profitable but she undermined herself to get him He didn’t value her as she him it ain’t about love it’s about the fortune it won’t last
Hahaha went Bruce Lee, thanks for the laugh. 😂😂 Solange really kicked jayz ass especially with the heavy purse throwing at his face. It is strange that B didn't react at all when it comes to the elevator fight, but then again, every marriage goes through ups and downs. I am more convicted that the cheating rumors were just a marketing trick from both sides just to sell more records. But who knows?
We are all human beigns , we are bound to make mistakes. There are some couples that u seems perfect, they might have cheated but they quicly withdrwaran before it is blown out. Women are 55% faitfully to their marriage, but if she meets a crush that she is madly in love or infactuuated to him issues might arise in the marriage , but women knwos how to manage cheating than men
@@CS-zj8ex Someone else told me he had to cheat , and I didn't believe him just like I don't believe you. When you cheat you are only thinking about yourself and a few moments of pleasure, your not thinking about the one that is faithful and what it might do to them. As far as I am concerned, cheaters are right up there with other dirtbags of society.
True..some ppl will say ..taht we r human being and mistake happens and blah blah..i would say they should know difference between mistake and wrongdoing..when u do mistakes ,it happens unexpectedly..not by planning to sleep with anybody without even getting ur partner in brain even for one second..,not by hiding messages,not by having affairs outside,not by getting naked to anybody..it simply because u cant live loyal with anybody not even ur partner and family..if u cant give ur loyalty yo ur partner /family who is living with u ..tehn u r pathetic..i cant believe ppl give reasons foe cheating? The thing which ruin everything.. loyalty needed in everything whether it is relationship, business or contract..in every thing..when u say cheating is a mistake..u give those kind of ppl a way to get out from things..all tehy will do cheat and then say ..sorry i made a mistake..why we don't do that..dont we r humans too.. because we know why we r in relationship ,what is relationship,what is the foundation of relationship..what is commitment..ppl we can know ourselves if we can give loyalty or not ..there is no need of cheat in anything..u ppl give reasons for something which can ruined someone permanently..there r ppl who can't give a chance to any other after this incident in their lives.. please say wrong to wrong rather than giving idiotic reason for everything..even terrorism is mistake too..go and talk for them
it's sad, Beyonce has sung so many break up songs and yet, she became a victim of it. but she's not doing what she'd say in her songs. Reality can be so out of reach at times.
@@selomekebour3439 no one said it was rule books. And songs aren't rules I'm aware of that, but alot of singers express their thoughts and emotions into their piece of work, thus art. Alot of singers create "inspirational" songs to reach out to their fans, yk they send a message thru their artwork.
They didn't go through anything. She went through a lot. He consistently has his pie and eats it too. This is not a romantic story, this is a story of caution.
ririririPXN Yet people look up to them as the power couple. All because of money. Sad. If they was the average couple in the neighborhood no one would bat an eye.
I think she forgave him for simple reasons, she didn't want her mother or father to tell her 'I told you so'. She also didn't want to lose that 'power couple' status.
He’ll never stop because he knows Beyoncé will turn a blind eye because of the kids and not wanting to start over. We teach people how to treat us. She’s so beautiful and so talented on so many levels she doesn’t deserve him. She deserves the best
Money is not the issue with her. Her self esteem just isn't there. He has made her doubt herself and the damage has been done. Toughen up Bey and leave him. You are beautiful inside and out and you can do better.
What type of guy does she deserve exactly? This is basically the best she will get she’s 40 her best baby making years are over clearly she’s here bonded with him heavily
@@zay_gzs5635 Wow, the ignorance in this comment. You are basically saying that no man will want her because of her age and that she is too old to provide a man with a child. You know that there are men out there who looks past those things and actually care and love a woman for who she is. Beyonce can do better, Jay Z groomed her when he started dating her at 18, some have speculated that they were dating even before that. Why didn't you say the same thing for Jay, he's in his 50s and let's be honest not that attractive so it could be harder for him to get a woman. To answer your question, Beyonce deserves an actual man, a man that will love her and be loyal to her
Dang I didn’t know she was only 18. She really didn’t have a chance to talk to other people. To see what she did like and didn’t like. But all that cheating I couldn’t do it.
And I also think that plays a big part in her "forgiving him", when you are young and you fall in love your vision gets blurry and you tend to think there's only one person for you, and that's it. She didn't even have the chance to see what else was there in the world.
Lala Mindill are you saying he wanted her to have the chance to live life a bit first.. & see if it was him she really wanted? Bey could pretty much do nothing at all & still be TOO GOOD for Jay-Z. & that's what I love about her.. She had soo many options but she still had a daughter to his cheating ass! Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that they give others HOPE!! But he did her so wrong.. I guess she REALLY LOVES HIM though 😏 Good for them I suppose.. #NoHateAtAll
There’s still something off with the math. I believe Jay is pushing 50; but Bey...is a good 42, not 37. Celebrities (and the pressure will always fall on women) to put their age back.
I hope this woman doesn’t decide to leave when she’s too old and just remains there like many women do. Waste their lives with men who won’t bother changing for them
She's a money loving, status conscious, naive chick. She is greedy as all hell. By herself, she is super wealthy. She doesn't need JayZ. She could have married anyone else. She didn't look nor try. This is her fault. She went in with her eyes open and stupidly fell for his b.s. She is a wealthy disgrace. Demon possessed and wack asf!
Girl that comment hit me hard...I have been married 12 years to a cheater. I did not find out till I had our first son he has sex with his ex wife in my oldest sons room..my older boy was in his grandma's room. I stayed because my older son was seven when we got married and really wanted a father...he never knew his real dad.. So I stayed and got really depressed over constant cheating and put off graduating from college over depression. I was so mentally unstable I would be to lazy, tired, sidetracked to take my birth control properly and ended up having three babies in a five year period until it occured to me to take my damn pills. I would get anxiety every time he left the house because I never knew I'd he was coming back...he always wanted to live in the country and only he could use the vehicle even though my financial aid had paid for every vehicle we had because he wouldn't get a job. I supported us often by walking to work pregnant and in snow storms and rain storms. I felt worthless. I mean ift.own husband thought I was fat and ugly and dumb then I guess I must be I cannot describe the horrors I allowed to happen. I am forty years old now and have been in therapy for about a year. Turns out I am not fat, and very attractive and smart as hell...through all of it I managed to get my bachelor degree. My husband hates that I have self esteem and hates that I don't care what he does anymore. I stayed for my kids mainly because his mother and father are very wealthy and threaten to take my kids and never let me see them again...they have turned me into CSD many times over made up things to make a paper trail incase I leave and they have the pull with judges and high ups to do it..so I decided to just be my best self and live my best life regardless and when my youngest is eighteen I'm out that door I will be in my late fifties when she is 18 and that does scare me thinking where did my youth go...by the time I can actually give myself an abuse free life I will be an old woman!
Jay Z got to live his life with many different women and Beyoncé got to live her life with only Jay. He knew what he was doing when he courted a 17 year old girl. Remeber they hid the relationship until she turned 18. Jay likes control so he choose a younger girl. It seems to work for them now with all the children, money, etc. but I know she has experienced regrets. Any woman would. Beyoncé is a product of her environment. She saw her mother and father together for a lifetime and the divorce once they got older. Beyoncé will go one or two ways. She will stay to the very end with Jay to prove she can stand the test or time or she will get divorce very late in life like her mother when she is not afraid to acknowledge the regrets she has felt all along.
They met once when she was 15 in the studio. There's a picture. They have both said in music and interviews that they met again at a VMA show when she was 18. They slowly became friends talking for about 1.5 years just as friends and went on a date by the time she was 20. In a song he said he officially asked her to be his girlfriend on her 21st birthday. She was actually still dating her teenaged boyfriend at 17.
I have always said that. Yes he cheated and he will do it again but If or really when she decides to leave him he will try to hold on to her like a germ. There are so many men rich men who want her it’s crazy. And he knows it. He can dish it out but i don’t think he can take it
Jay won’t let no other man have her... but he’s selfish at the same time to the point he wants his cake and eat it too. But after all these true statement and allegations that went publicly about their relationship and affairs, If he does keep cheating on her she’s gonna eventually leave him... I don’t wanna be a damn fool keep taking a man back over and over again if he hasn’t learned his lesson.. and to be honest they have a brand they need to protect on their name. But Beyoncé is a lot more stronger and more independent than jay z is... not to mention she’s at her prime now, always have been, and he knows that for a fact... plus jay is slowly but surely burning out... to be honest I’m not a die hard Beyoncé fan but I do love her music and admire her strength as a woman but I’m sick and tired of seeing Jay on stage at every freaken concert all the time... like seriously I do not want my man to be constantly living in my shadow when i know good and damn well I’m out shining him... and jay don’t like that... I don’t need a chaperone 24/7 I’m a grown ass woman and can be able to handle myself. But he’s always shadowing over her to let everybody knows don’t fuck with my woman , she’s mine. But it’s hard to believe that because he’s constantly keeps doing it because she’ll keep taking him back every time when she knows deep down her worth but she refuses to see it. And just because they seem happy in public, and photos doesn’t mean their really happily married.... I’m thinking it’s only for appearances as a power couple. But she was very young let alone dealing with a man who was in his 30’s being immature. From hear on out she’s gonna constantly be insecure and who he’s working with etc she will always have that in the back of her mind. A Queen 👑 can And will stand tall with or without her king she’s the most strongest and powerful player on the chess board. It’s all on her..... but personally I wouldn’t have kept putting up with that mess and you got me out here looking like a damn fool to keep taking yo ass back every time you keep messing with another woman... fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times or more I’m a fucking idiot. Not to disrespect Beyoncé... but a woman gotta know her worth.. and know her power. Just saying.
Laura W Because she was so young and naive at 18 and Jay-Z is worldly and spun his web. He definitely would be scary to wake up to because he simply ain't nothing to look at but women like powerful money Moguls.
Idk about Jay being the "loser" lol I mean Beyonce's the one sticking with him after all his bullshittery 😂😂 Edit: I forgot to mention, he's the one that has more money and a "bigger" name to him.
Yep and also when u have family, children it get hard to leave family..that shameless person even dont care about his family that which influence he is trying to give children..he knows that bey will manage everything that's why..
Exactly. Thays why at the end of the day self love and worth is more important than anything. She has the family, the money, the life and none of it matters bcuz she'd rather keep up and image and stay in a toxic marriage than spare her own sanity and time. But all this is karma from way back so this pain m what not is her bad🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
He didn't only cheat, but he was "allegedly" VERY DISRESPECTFUL about it. I read how he was bragging to his friends at one point about his cheating, saying that he basically doesn't care because Bey will "never leave" him. I think that Bey suffers from her mom's stupidity of staying faithfully with a cheater/loser for years and years and years. Jay isn't done cheating and Bey will stay for a long time coming...like her mother did.
You’re right and I heard those same rumors for years about a couple years after they got married and were living in separate houses ,but she has a great PR team. As soon as those rumors started they wouldn’t be on the internet a few days later,so most of her fans think the cheating is new.
I'm not sure how one can justify getting married to somebody that cheated on you three times before you even got married and then be surprised they cheated on you while you're married.
She's attached to him because she dated him young n didn't get the chance to meet new ppl n experience new relationships, making up n breaking up, taking her time to choose the perfect man, etc... N besides Jay had money when they were dating, clearly Beyonce also wanted a man who's got wealth before she became as wealthy... Rmbr she was 18, she was a kid
Lacey Racey. money still. that's why she didn't leave him. they don't want to give up that power. he is still with his Beckys. Bey is just a side chick...lol
I wouldn’t say a “kid” I mean damn in most countries you could start drinking alcohol at 16 even 14. But, she definitely was a young teen who was still pretty stupid.
Because of money! Jayz is no ordinary man hes a billionare he owns a damn frickin empire beyonce wants that power and the image she protecting for so long!
that's not mistake, that deliberate, just like the bible words and doing wrong which we shouldn't, so does marriage, if your'e not ready, don't marry then, mistake? if my girl decided to cheat on me and I found that out, she would be DUMPED and no getting back together. besides I probably don't get married because of evil people like jay z, two can play at this game!!!
u don't know me, LOVE BEYONCE but if she wrong, she's just wrong, i can't play the hypocrite, you don't hide the truth from who u love, truth has to be revealed. If he was the brokenhearted, she does not deserve him and by the way she would not cheat on him, he's just plain wicked, only evil does these things. Do onto others what you want for yourself, not saying you can't forgive in relationships, there's an end to all things, hitherto, it's still an evil thing to do to someone. He knows she's a good woman, hence the fight back for her love, then why you do it then, Ur completely playing nigga.
Cheating shouldn’t be an a unwritten obstacle for a perfect marriage. It’s not something that needs to be overcome to know that both people love each other because it shouldn’t even have happened in a marriage in the first place.
just because it not an obstacle you NEED to overcome doesnt mean that it shouldnt be overcome. if you can work it out and you WANT to work it out why shouldnt you? because someone else is holding a grudge for you?
I'd rather be a super wealthy single mother, than a stupid, used up, humiliated, manipulated coward for staying with a completely self absorbed narcissistic cheater!
Nicole Corke still don’t understand why she’s revered as such a boss. A side from money I feel sorry for her not a woman I’d like to become. Self love is everything
She forgave him because she's Hooked on Jay Z so he can more or less treat her however he likes.This is what happens when you get hooked on someone you put up with a load of nonsense.
@@alphabogeyman7462 That is a stupid stereotype. The world is MUCH wider and bigger than all those clishes, open your damn mind and maybe you will see this, child
Because their marriage is a brand and she cares way too much about her image. Plus the whole cheated but forgiving wife thing made for edgy album material.
@@alluringbliss4165 she needs to satisfy her husband sexually, Marriage is supposed to be sacred.. she should not stop being a freak sexually with her husband. Unfortantantly these days there is no more repect for marriage vows. Men are going MGTOW and women have gone into feminsim movement. Men will continue to use women as sexual objects... married men will cheat no mattrr what but will never leave wifey.. some do tho... it goes both ways, men who don't satify their wives sexually also are high risk for cheating... and at the end of the day you are just a sexual object.... Married or not men love pussy and ass
She has all this power, beauty, talent, money, influence and STILL lets him treat her that way. He took her best years from her, mistreating her all this time. She still freaking sings all those songs. It’s really a shame. I don’t believe a truly confident person would let themselves be treated like that. To me her still being with him and giving him her love and devotion screams insecurity. About what who the hell knows but I’m just so confused why she is still with his old ass.
@@lauramaltez4511 wtf? You can hurt someone other than physically. He is toxic and beyonce is an idiot. Nothing more and nothing less. If you think this is what true love looks like then just wait till you get into a relationship like this.
"Because they truly love each other... They stayed together." Naw bruh, he got all his side piece goals Accomplished, so now he can be faithful. Jay was a dog bro lol😂
@@pamaladarling6600 Exactly. Time is definitely not on her side. Stars shine bright with youth and vitality. Age makes the lights go dim you with a quickness.
I don't think she stayed with him to keep the "power couple" status, she stayed with him because he is all she has ever know in terms of relationships, love and commitment. What kept her was also the belief that the man she trusted so very much and loved whole heartedly would come back to her... also they have a kid together, maybe staying together and trying again was because of Blue?
I'm in a similar situation n its not a easy thing especially if kids are involved. The only thing between me n Bey is that she has the money , fame, beauty n talent, she can do something about it if she wants. I wish her all the luck n blessing that she n J will be ok.
@@juliennesoniamalabomakong9021 try rereading what I said. I said that their net worth COMBINED is one Billion dollars. It didn't mention anything about her making more than him or her needing him.
It’s sad, because he gets so self-conscious when men are around her. I remember Sean Paul saying how Jay tried to block him performing “Baby Boy” live with Beyoncé.
I agree that she portrays a strong independent woman that she isn't, but you can't say that people deserve what they tolerate. Women know that they are being disrespected but feel too vulnerable to leave. I've done that many times.
@@Bargaingirlforlife I personally feel like it's a bit much saying she isn't strong just because she forgave him ,outside of her relationship she is still an amazing role model as an artist who achieved the impossible especially in such a suffocating industry, she has also dedicated a lot of her work to young black girls and inspires many through her voice, she has went through so much as a person and is still standing with pride which seems pretty strong to me
im so disappointed she stayed with him after making lemonade. even embraced him in one of the videos. like all of it means nothing if u stay. its just an empty threat. it would have been more impressive if she broke up with him instead of the whole album
@@jamylovee What does being pretty, have to do with insecurities. Some of the most gorgeous looking people in the world are still very insecure about their looks,and other aspects of their lives. And need constant attention and reassurance. And some are also very vain
"they decided to fight through and stay together for love" never have i once seen someone who actually loves or at least gives a shit about their partner even think about cheating and then "fight through hard times for LOVE"
You can love someone and cheat on her ... Especially when all your life you’ve been around gangster and prostitute, and that you could smash everygirl in the world .. It’s a program in the subconscious, that’s why change is difficult. Especially for us men because we are made to reproduce . You know i was with a girl when i was 16-18 she was my first « long relation » and was crazy in love, but i cheated on her 2 times and she live me. And i suffered i was almost in depression because lf that, with guilt and shame but i understand im a man now so i don’t engage in serious relation because i know im weak and i don’t want to hurt a girl, i don’t want to hate myself ..
@@aprilgaines2132 Sorry-- love goes out the window after repeated cheating and humiliation. Not to mention STDs that Will effect your health and/or your reproductive organs for the rest of your life-- potentially leaving you susceptible to different cancers and potential death. Sorry--I 💗 me and my life. I’m not ride or die like that. That’s just pure ridiculousness.
@@Anthonydu01630 Cheating is a choice! You chose to cheat, and she chose herself and she chose to leave you. She was not going to put her reproductive health in jeopardy. And cheating men don’t think about the health concerns that they create in their selfish wake. Oh--not to mention when you pollute a woman’s womb, you potentially pollute a baby’s first home, even if you decide to stay with a woman or not.
@@Anthonydu01630 what did you expect you did that to yourself if you truly loved her you would of thought of her feelings and not of cheated there are people who have been together for 30 + years and grow up with that mid seat and have never cheated she should of left sorry
He only wanted Beyoncé for bragging rights towards other men. He knew that everyone wanted her. "I got the baddest girl in the game wearing my chain". How else would he go from rapping about being a player forever to getting married? He wasn't ready.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I can understand her wanting to stay with him out of love and family and a sense of duty in general (to family, to fans, to whoever) but on another hand, I think Bee is a wonderful woman who doesn't deserve this treatment. And for how long can they continue in a marriage where they write songs that throw shade at each other? It's not healthy Bee. This is an example of a toxic relationship and I finally respect Rihanna for choosing to leave Chris Brown not because she didn't love him anymore but because even at that young age, she UNDERSTOOD that the world was watching and she was sending a message to women out there. Bee, I hope you are happy, and hope you wake up soon. You deserve so much more.
@@cullinan5772 at least she was legal... I try not to judge age gaps. Kinda approach that the same way I will approach a 30 year old woman dating a 42 year old.
+magdalene adjei When you are an adult it is kinda reasonable in my opinion. I'm not a relationship expert but 18 vs 30 is just way too much. I'm 28 but dating someone 10 years younger than me makes me feel so uneasy and as if I'm taking advantage for some reasons. That's just a teenager to rather give advice than date.
I love how you expressed your self a lot but the part where you mentioned on the world watching. Must such a personal decision be about concern of women in the world watching. ? Imagine her leaving husband to look good to others in the world. That wouldn’t be fair on her though yes she deserves way better than that treatment Shame. Wish them well too. Relationships are complex
@@rumbidzamakondora Mostly, I believe in privacy of assets, feelings, life in general but let's face it. The moment you become a "celebrity" some aspects of your life are yours and others are yours and your entire fan base's. One of such is HOW you react to issues. Yes, its personal and I get that (more than I'm putting off) but I also know there are 3 year olds, 12 year olds and 25 year olds who have Bee as a role model...all these people learn. So yes, I believe she deserves her privacy but I also believe she should think about all those impressionable people looking up to her (they sort of become stakeholders) and I think this is something everybody should understand before choosing a life in the spotlight. I hope that makes a little more sense?😊
Imagine being a man so weak and so empty that having that goddess in your bed, wearing your ring, and bearing your children and trusting you with her heart just made you greedy for another conquest.
She stayed with him for the kids. And the fact that she’s Beyoncé. When you have that kind of status you can’t just remarry. People will get with you for your fame, money, and fortune. And to those saying she stayed for the Jay Z name, she would be even bigger if they broke up. Imagine Lemonade with them broken up. She would’ve sold out in advance.
Yes but don't think its sick that Jay-Z is exploiting the fact that she can't date anyone else?? And staying with a cheater for children is disastrous. All she's doing is teaching her kids that a relationship full of lies is something ok to settle for. The situation is fucked up and from where I'm standing it looks like he cheats because he's insecure and selfish and she stays beacuse she's insecure and scared.
Egypts Pyramid *egypts pyramid* also a sign of a creeping fuckboy ass nigga wanting to fuck the innonce out of her. Men like him who go after 18 year olds just want the fresh variety of getting young easily controlled pussy and once the newness wares off and they did all they could do with girls like her they stray unless she's bad and they cant do better. idgaf how people feel about beyonce her mother should have cut that shit off quick. but she was technically legal and the biggest rap star back then. Bet on everything if jay was an upcoming nobody or underground trynna make it like kanye she wouldnt have fucked with him at all.
More cheаting to come, one sided love never gonnа work. She loves him, he loves other femаles, his is purpose in their relаtionship is emotionаl аbuse, аnd benefit from her populаrity.
you know what the problem is here? No one has faith. People do change. and thats something she has chosen , so why cant everyone just have love . Its their relationship.
News flash as long as there is the abundance of our sugar walls, 95% of men will try to get as much of it as they can and it oftentimes has nothing to do with the woman or whether they are married. That is why women like Halle and Beyonce can get cheated on. Only a man that is ready to commit to one woman will not cheat or will stop cheating. And remember ladies he is everybody's man he wants to be with until he says I do, then and only then is he cheating on you. Your boyfriend doesn't cheat on you he keeps his options open.
Devin Simmons I agree. It’s her choice and her judgment to do so. Maybe she doesn’t take it as personally and realizes it’s his issues and means nothing about her worth. She’s too busy doing boss shit to care. Maybe he’s worth it to her. Maybe everything else is wonderful. I mean how would we know?
This marriage is a sham, Beyonce is a fool, a cheater doesnt change his spots. Some ppl are just too scared to let go and move on. There is no respect in this relationship, just lies and betrayal. Wake up!
Yes..and we have some idiots who give reasons for cheating too.. they will give for terrorism too.. that we r all human beings and mistake happens..i bet they will be the one to give shout if someone cheat on them
She portrays a strong independent woman in her songs but in a relationship she's a dependent and weak girl, just like we all are. I've done it, I've stayed and knew I was weak.
I wouldn’t say we all I have never and will never stay with someone who disrespects me some people just have more self respect and love than others I watched my mom let men treat her like a doormat my whole childhood and I refuse to ever be that pathetic might seem harsh but it is very pathetic to lower your self worth and self love to make a man feel like more of a man so many women are so willing to let a man treat them however they please rather than be lonely and it’s very sad
@@biancafoster5083 although you have a point, you're forgetting to understand why some people allow that kind of treatment, most of us struggle with mental health issues and to some point allow abuse. Can't just brush everyone with the same brush, you don't know people's circumstances
@@Bargaingirlforlife so instead of going to therapy to work on your issues and better yourself you decide to let a man treat you like a doormat? It’s hard to feel bad when someone doesn’t even wanna try but good luck with that hope you find self love and worth one day
@@biancafoster5083 as a struggling student in a foreign country who made enough to pay rent and bills and some food, I didn't even know where and how to get help. I didn't have a family to move back to, I didn't have many friends and in fact all my student friends were also foreign. You clearly don't understand why people can be so low that they allow abuse. You don't know people or their circumstances, women know they're treated badly. You seem to lack compassion and understanding and remind me of an Easter European mother or grandmother who was born during communism and just said "get on with it, we had a harder life than you and we're fine".
She hasn't forgiven him, they aren't a real couple, they are just like the Beckhams, they are worth more together than apart and not just in terms of money, they are a brand!
IDGAF about his money period; I loved him before I ever knew. Did all i could help him or anyone in his family so leave money out this FR FR!! Damn this
Unfortunately, we as human beings have a tendency to love those who hurt us most. That’s why I don’t believe your statement is true. The man I loved most in the world is the man who hurt me most. Try as I may, I can never get myself to hate him even though I have hated others for far less.
Beyoncé being so open about her pain of being betrayed by her husband just solidified, in my opinion, the absolute QUEEN that she is. For a lot of women and men, being cheated on is humiliating snd life changing. Beyoncé telling her story is not only so brave, but also shows that being cheated on has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!! AND HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE CHEATER!!!
when a powerful and famous women in USA "forgives her husband and stands by her man" and another woman in Afghanistan stays with her man because she has no other choice....I have nothing to say anymore.
She loved him and loves him. She has been through a lot and they have children together she wants to stick by him. Sometimes things get tough but she doesn’t want to leave him she has stuck by him. She wants her kids to have two parents and wants to keep their power couple image together and is just trying to live her life. Remember she is human too and so is Jay they go through the same stuff we do and get criticised for it because they are in the public eye. just let them live their lives how they want to and respect their privacy. Love you Queen Beyoncé🥰❤️
The issue with this is that children grow and start listening at school, reading watching RUclips and 2 things may happen, or her girls become strong self respected women that won’t take disrespect from a man or they become like their mom, submissive with low self esteem. Same goes to the boy or he copy his dad cheating ways or become a guy that repeal that behavior Bc he saw his mom suffer. Staying in a toxic relationship for our kids it’s the number one mistake human can do. They copy our actions not what we say.
True..they r like more attached in relationship or in family ..that douchebag even doesn't care for his children that how bad influence will gt on children..he is just moneybag otherwise he has nothing to offer..he is even nothing with Beyonce in todays world...if u say
I adore Solange, I was not surprise when they said she was divorcing. I knew she was going to EXIT the marriage real quick. She is not going to compromise with no man.
He’ll keep it out of her view and he’ll keep it out of site from his kids. But something will always be off, and always an underlying uneasiness in the air. That’s what my pops did. My mother was still unhappy. She was always borderline mean/mad-- but she decided to stay and put up with his 💩. That situation ALWAYS trickles down to the children. ALWAYS. Kids deserve happy parents, not a dysfunctional household.
@@artiswilkins306 poor Bey. What's off is the fact she got a demon soul inhabiting her body named "Sasha Fierce" that takes control of her body. Hollywood needs Jesus.
You cheat because you have options, the only men that are not cheating is because no one wants them. No man is going to say no regardless of being "Happily" married.
She was 17yrs old per her own statement on Tyra Banks talk show. He's portrayed himself as a misogynistic arse and it seems he tries to live up to them. She shows she don't value herself they way she tells us to.
Can you imagine being Beyonce & your man cheats on you, the mistress must feel on top of the world smh who doesn’t know that Jayz is married to Bey? That’s crazy
Cheating on someone is like saying "I don't care about this relationship." Tbh, I don't understand why they stayed together. I get working through hardships in marriage and all, but if you really love someone, you wouldn't cheat on them.
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These two seem to be an unbreakable couple! Who has the same relationship as they do?
It’s fake it’s profitable but she undermined herself to get him
He didn’t value her as she him it ain’t about love it’s about the fortune it won’t last
You’re a foolish romantic
And then she had children further fairytale fake lives
Bullshit....😴
I do for sure Wyatt an Domonique
That’s why Solange went Bruce Lee on Jay in the elevator. And remember, Beyoncé did not budge once to stop it. That says a lot.
Betcha jakazz grabbed solanges yoohoo infront of beyonce .
Hell yeah I know bey was like "chill sis u fuking up my money!!"
She under MK
Hahaha went Bruce Lee, thanks for the laugh. 😂😂 Solange really kicked jayz ass especially with the heavy purse throwing at his face. It is strange that B didn't react at all when it comes to the elevator fight, but then again, every marriage goes through ups and downs. I am more convicted that the cheating rumors were just a marketing trick from both sides just to sell more records. But who knows?
Solange went Bruce Lee on Jay in the elevator. I'm laughing so hard that I can't breathe. Great Line!
She works so hard to be the "perfect woman/ wife" and he still cheated.
Beyonce is a hopeless romantic, Jay had pimp mentality, good for her he finally grew up, and maybe now he can appreciate her loving him.
Damn you can be pretty, talented, and damn near perfect wth. Still get cheated on.
He made her who she is and she likes it.
@@graciecyn8775 alwAys.pricks.the cheaters.
Alluring Bliss Wait what?
The problem is, he knows Bey is never leaving him (for many reasons) so he’s too comfortable.
We women tend be think with our emotions, men don't love as hard as women.
@@alluringbliss4165 that just depends on the person not the gender, what you said is just a stereotype
@@cyanxinq2754 I've heard many men say that.
THAT PART
I completely agree.
She lacks the guts and cannot fathom life without him. He knows it too. She wants her nuclear family intact.
Let’s be honest, any woman seeing Jay on the street would turn the other way. He’s not a handsome guy.
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Big facts
Are you
😂 💥 boom
If you love someone, you don't cheat it is simple as that.
We are all human beigns , we are bound to make mistakes. There are some couples that u seems perfect, they might have cheated but they quicly withdrwaran before it is blown out. Women are 55% faitfully to their marriage, but if she meets a crush that she is madly in love or infactuuated to him issues might arise in the marriage , but women knwos how to manage cheating than men
I agree
@@CS-zj8ex You had to cheat. Right, I stand by what I said you don't have to cheat, it is a choice to cheat. And you don't do that to anyone you love.
@@CS-zj8ex Someone else told me he had to cheat , and I didn't believe him just like I don't believe you. When you cheat you are only thinking about yourself and a few moments of pleasure, your not thinking about the one that is faithful and what it might do to them. As far as I am concerned, cheaters are right up there with other dirtbags of society.
@@CS-zj8ex No, it doesn't have to be done, you want it to be done.
Trying to wrap my brain around someone loving someone and hurting them over and over again like this. It's a choice.
FoolyLiving Damn straight!
You're right and people say Kanye needs help, he's not the only one.
I BELIEVE THE CHILD WAS BORN AND IN THE INDUSTRY SOMEWHERE.
The worst is to sing about empowerment to women and "Boy bye" while is dying for a guy who do over and over again the same pain on her. Stupid!
You just don't understand a mans struggles
Cheating Is a CHOICE period!
Anarchist Truth Matters More of course, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you dont love the person you are with..
I agree.
@@juliaarnold1078 Untrue because people don't hurt people they love
True..some ppl will say ..taht we r human being and mistake happens and blah blah..i would say they should know difference between mistake and wrongdoing..when u do mistakes ,it happens unexpectedly..not by planning to sleep with anybody without even getting ur partner in brain even for one second..,not by hiding messages,not by having affairs outside,not by getting naked to anybody..it simply because u cant live loyal with anybody not even ur partner and family..if u cant give ur loyalty yo ur partner /family who is living with u ..tehn u r pathetic..i cant believe ppl give reasons foe cheating? The thing which ruin everything.. loyalty needed in everything whether it is relationship, business or contract..in every thing..when u say cheating is a mistake..u give those kind of ppl a way to get out from things..all tehy will do cheat and then say ..sorry i made a mistake..why we don't do that..dont we r humans too.. because we know why we r in relationship ,what is relationship,what is the foundation of relationship..what is commitment..ppl we can know ourselves if we can give loyalty or not ..there is no need of cheat in anything..u ppl give reasons for something which can ruined someone permanently..there r ppl who can't give a chance to any other after this incident in their lives.. please say wrong to wrong rather than giving idiotic reason for everything..even terrorism is mistake too..go and talk for them
Choice?? of what??! plz.. hi did it already.. his Choice
it's sad, Beyonce has sung so many break up songs and yet, she became a victim of it. but she's not doing what she'd say in her songs. Reality can be so out of reach at times.
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Yea cause they’re just songs. They’re not rulebooks. It’s called art.
@@selomekebour3439 no one said it was rule books. And songs aren't rules I'm aware of that, but alot of singers express their thoughts and emotions into their piece of work, thus art.
Alot of singers create "inspirational" songs to reach out to their fans, yk they send a message thru their artwork.
She said Solange wrote a lot her songs..
The heart wants what it wants
It's hard to give up your first love.
He knew what he was doing when he approached her at a young age.
Arbida Young exactly. i bet she’s staying for their kids
@@leospicegirl yep i wish i had known before i committed to a man so young
Yeap, too hard getting over a first love. With kids too. But hey everyone deserves a second chance. She's given his.
He is not her first love, she had a boyfriend before and maybe she was "crazy in love" too lol
Argee 100%
They didn't go through anything. She went through a lot. He consistently has his pie and eats it too. This is not a romantic story, this is a story of caution.
Yes I agree, she could do so much better and with someone who can love her the way she wants to be loved 😕
ririririPXN Yet people look up to them as the power couple. All because of money. Sad. If they was the average couple in the neighborhood no one would bat an eye.
Its a sad story if u ask me... I feel repelled by it. I see no love, just need and compromise.
@@hazelsinterieurs837 So true....so true. I think the only thing he's sorry for is that he got caught.
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I think she forgave him for simple reasons, she didn't want her mother or father to tell her 'I told you so'. She also didn't want to lose that 'power couple' status.
You nailed it Shanchan!!!
Shanchan maybe she truly loves him and can not bear to let him go
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Shanchan I think Tina supported their relationship & Matthew didn’t at first
Shanchan WHY COULDN'T IT BE LOVE?! DAMN U SOUND LONELY
He’ll never stop because he knows Beyoncé will turn a blind eye because of the kids and not wanting to start over. We teach people how to treat us. She’s so beautiful and so talented on so many levels she doesn’t deserve him. She deserves the best
Money is not the issue with her. Her self esteem just isn't there. He has made her doubt herself and the damage has been done. Toughen up Bey and leave him. You are beautiful inside and out and you can do better.
Are you for real
Nowadays, there are no best. Men areime hunters n prey. They get tired of just having only one relationship.
What type of guy does she deserve exactly? This is basically the best she will get she’s 40 her best baby making years are over clearly she’s here bonded with him heavily
@@zay_gzs5635 Wow, the ignorance in this comment. You are basically saying that no man will want her because of her age and that she is too old to provide a man with a child. You know that there are men out there who looks past those things and actually care and love a woman for who she is. Beyonce can do better, Jay Z groomed her when he started dating her at 18, some have speculated that they were dating even before that.
Why didn't you say the same thing for Jay, he's in his 50s and let's be honest not that attractive so it could be harder for him to get a woman. To answer your question, Beyonce deserves an actual man, a man that will love her and be loyal to her
So does Jay even love her? How many women has he had while they have been together? I wouldn’t call that love
Ty. If it was 1 I'd say I get it mistakws happen
Love don't cheat.
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No it's about $$$$
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Dang I didn’t know she was only 18. She really didn’t have a chance to talk to other people. To see what she did like and didn’t like. But all that cheating I couldn’t do it.
And I also think that plays a big part in her "forgiving him", when you are young and you fall in love your vision gets blurry and you tend to think there's only one person for you, and that's it. She didn't even have the chance to see what else was there in the world.
She was 22. Every youtube video y'all see?
Lala Mindill are you saying he wanted her to have the chance to live life a bit first.. & see if it was him she really wanted? Bey could pretty much do nothing at all & still be TOO GOOD for Jay-Z. & that's what I love about her..
She had soo many options but she still had a daughter to his cheating ass! Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that they give others HOPE!! But he did her so wrong.. I guess she REALLY LOVES HIM though 😏
Good for them I suppose.. #NoHateAtAll
Madlin Jackson loooool another Tyga 😂😂😂
There’s still something off with the math. I believe Jay is pushing 50; but Bey...is a good 42, not 37. Celebrities (and the pressure will always fall on women) to put their age back.
I hope this woman doesn’t decide to leave when she’s too old and just remains there like many women do. Waste their lives with men who won’t bother changing for them
She's a money loving, status conscious, naive chick. She is greedy as all hell. By herself, she is super wealthy. She doesn't need JayZ. She could have married anyone else. She didn't look nor try. This is her fault. She went in with her eyes open and stupidly fell for his b.s. She is a wealthy disgrace. Demon possessed and wack asf!
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@@victorialevy431 bro she was 18 literally just turned legal like no stop
@Joshua Khoury élève you think she’s staying for his money? Lmao. She could sustain many people and herself well with her own. I hope she does leave.
Girl that comment hit me hard...I have been married 12 years to a cheater.
I did not find out till I had our first son he has sex with his ex wife in my oldest sons room..my older boy was in his grandma's room.
I stayed because my older son was seven when we got married and really wanted a father...he never knew his real dad..
So I stayed and got really depressed over constant cheating and put off graduating from college over depression.
I was so mentally unstable I would be to lazy, tired, sidetracked to take my birth control properly and ended up having three babies in a five year period until it occured to me to take my damn pills.
I would get anxiety every time he left the house because I never knew I'd he was coming back...he always wanted to live in the country and only he could use the vehicle even though my financial aid had paid for every vehicle we had because he wouldn't get a job.
I supported us often by walking to work pregnant and in snow storms and rain storms. I felt worthless. I mean ift.own husband thought I was fat and ugly and dumb then I guess I must be
I cannot describe the horrors I allowed to happen. I am forty years old now and have been in therapy for about a year. Turns out I am not fat, and very attractive and smart as hell...through all of it I managed to get my bachelor degree.
My husband hates that I have self esteem and hates that I don't care what he does anymore. I stayed for my kids mainly because his mother and father are very wealthy and threaten to take my kids and never let me see them again...they have turned me into CSD many times over made up things to make a paper trail incase I leave and they have the pull with judges and high ups to do it..so I decided to just be my best self and live my best life regardless and when my youngest is eighteen I'm out that door
I will be in my late fifties when she is 18 and that does scare me thinking where did my youth go...by the time I can actually give myself an abuse free life I will be an old woman!
Jay Z actually has SEVERAL GROWN children that he never provided for. Not sure why she thought he would treat her differently from his other mothers
Very possible.
What really ???
He did treat her different. He wifed her and actually claims her and their children.
I will never truly believe he loves Bey I just think she is his trophy wife
NewStyle Modeling Yes. À Trophy Wife
Truuueee lolzz
if that is the case why is she still with him? why can't she marry some cute normal guy?
@@jugg9140 money talks🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RTRT-ZAM oh she is a gold digger?
Jay Z got to live his life with many different women and Beyoncé got to live her life with only Jay. He knew what he was doing when he courted a 17 year old girl. Remeber they hid the relationship until she turned 18. Jay likes control so he choose a younger girl. It seems to work for them now with all the children, money, etc. but I know she has experienced regrets. Any woman would. Beyoncé is a product of her environment. She saw her mother and father together for a lifetime and the divorce once they got older. Beyoncé will go one or two ways. She will stay to the very end with Jay to prove she can stand the test or time or she will get divorce very late in life like her mother when she is not afraid to acknowledge the regrets she has felt all along.
They met once when she was 15 in the studio. There's a picture. They have both said in music and interviews that they met again at a VMA show when she was 18. They slowly became friends talking for about 1.5 years just as friends and went on a date by the time she was 20. In a song he said he officially asked her to be his girlfriend on her 21st birthday. She was actually still dating her teenaged boyfriend at 17.
U got me.She is trying to be Catholic
@@orriia.2124 I believe Jay Z was praying on her before she was 18. All the clues point to that. They hid it very well though.
@@xavierarmstrong963 Everyone knows Jay was preying on her since she was 16.
She was 18 when she met him.
If he didn’t have money nobody would look at him
He is a good rapper
That's a fckd up thing to say. Especially if it ain true.
Yeah he ugly af
Nothing about camel is attractive. He's also a DEADBEAT DADDY. He has 3 outside kids that he refuses to acknowledge.
I hardly look at him now! 🙄
Did anyone else catch that Beyoncé's father was upset Jay-Z had another relationship with a model and had a son?!?!?
Exactly
Yet he did the same with Tina
@@mariechannel10 Ooooop--Bloop😒
@@mariechannel10 Exactly
Hes a hypocrite then
Maybe I missed it, but not once in this video did it give a "reason why Beyonce Forgave Jay-X". The video is just click-bait.
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Amanda McKee yes!! I was waiting for someone to say this!!
Amanda McKee u don’t listen obviously
Jazmine Lashe can you explain what the Reason was? Cause I’ve missed it too
@@JaeLshae30 xD You're hilarious.
The last thing he wants is for Beyonce to be on the market.
Tamarra B yea that part 😂
I have always said that. Yes he cheated and he will do it again but If or really when she decides to leave him he will try to hold on to her like a germ. There are so many men rich men who want her it’s crazy. And he knows it. He can dish it out but i don’t think he can take it
So so so true. Quiet sure alot of ppl said dat.
Jay won’t let no other man have her... but he’s selfish at the same time to the point he wants his cake and eat it too. But after all these true statement and allegations that went publicly about their relationship and affairs, If he does keep cheating on her she’s gonna eventually leave him... I don’t wanna be a damn fool keep taking a man back over and over again if he hasn’t learned his lesson.. and to be honest they have a brand they need to protect on their name. But Beyoncé is a lot more stronger and more independent than jay z is... not to mention she’s at her prime now, always have been, and he knows that for a fact... plus jay is slowly but surely burning out... to be honest I’m not a die hard Beyoncé fan but I do love her music and admire her strength as a woman but I’m sick and tired of seeing Jay on stage at every freaken concert all the time... like seriously I do not want my man to be constantly living in my shadow when i know good and damn well I’m out shining him... and jay don’t like that... I don’t need a chaperone 24/7 I’m a grown ass woman and can be able to handle myself. But he’s always shadowing over her to let everybody knows don’t fuck with my woman , she’s mine.
But it’s hard to believe that because he’s constantly keeps doing it because she’ll keep taking him back every time when she knows deep down her worth but she refuses to see it. And just because they seem happy in public, and photos doesn’t mean their really happily married.... I’m thinking it’s only for appearances as a power couple. But she was very young let alone dealing with a man who was in his 30’s being immature.
From hear on out she’s gonna constantly be insecure and who he’s working with etc she will always have that in the back of her mind.
A Queen 👑 can And will stand tall with or without her king she’s the most strongest and powerful player on the chess board. It’s all on her..... but personally I wouldn’t have kept putting up with that mess and you got me out here looking like a damn fool to keep taking yo ass back every time you keep messing with another woman... fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times or more I’m a fucking idiot. Not to disrespect Beyoncé... but a woman gotta know her worth.. and know her power. Just saying.
Nah. Beyoncé has baggage now. She's older and has 3 kids. She could get another man, but it wont be the same.
Someday she will come to her senses and wonder why she wasted her best years on this man.
Exactly
No she won't.
Laura W Because she was so young and naive at 18 and Jay-Z is worldly and spun his web. He definitely would be scary to wake up to because he simply ain't nothing to look at but women like powerful money Moguls.
She'll write a song about it.
The next will be worse. 🤣🤣🤣
He basically groomed her. She won't leave him for cheating.
she was literally a young adult at the time how was she being groomed?
@@zyonariel1 anybody can be groomed lmfao
@@gotmurdered How?
Groomed at 27. Lmao I'm done 😂🧠👋
Her dad was also a serial cheater... she doesn’t know anything different
She keeps him for their image. They are powerful, neither of them wants to split, but if they do, Jay will be the big loser
Idk about Jay being the "loser" lol I mean Beyonce's the one sticking with him after all his bullshittery 😂😂
Edit: I forgot to mention, he's the one that has more money and a "bigger" name to him.
wrong,
Jay-Z helped her get where she is, if she broke up with him it'll look like she used him
its to hard for a mother n wife to give up....unfortunately women have more to lose emotionally n mentally
Come on. Beyonce doesnt need Jay z to stay relevanr
Beyonce may be famous and beautiful but she got low self esteem like any other gir
@@lolll1922 Of course. Everything is fake about Beyonce even her physical appearance
Yep and also when u have family, children it get hard to leave family..that shameless person even dont care about his family that which influence he is trying to give children..he knows that bey will manage everything that's why..
Agreed👌🏾
Well yeah her mother got cheated on with that kid being born after solange wasn’t the first time he been cheating since Texas
Exactly. Thays why at the end of the day self love and worth is more important than anything. She has the family, the money, the life and none of it matters bcuz she'd rather keep up and image and stay in a toxic marriage than spare her own sanity and time. But all this is karma from way back so this pain m what not is her bad🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
He didn't only cheat, but he was "allegedly" VERY DISRESPECTFUL about it. I read how he was bragging to his friends at one point about his cheating, saying that he basically doesn't care because Bey will "never leave" him. I think that Bey suffers from her mom's stupidity of staying faithfully with a cheater/loser for years and years and years. Jay isn't done cheating and Bey will stay for a long time coming...like her mother did.
You’re right and I heard those same rumors for years about a couple years after they got married and were living in separate houses ,but she has a great PR team. As soon as those rumors started they wouldn’t be on the internet a few days later,so most of her fans think the cheating is new.
How sad. She doesn't deserve all this. Hopefully Jay-Z will be faithful to her for as long as they're together.
That's my opinion too, it may happen or may not but if it does I pray that she's strong enough to handle it.
It's not about staying faithfully with just a cheater but staying faithfully with a cheater who is a narcissistic abuser.
I'm not sure how one can justify getting married to somebody that cheated on you three times before you even got married and then be surprised they cheated on you while you're married.
No man is worth fighting for, that's your First sign he's just not that into You.
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No MAN OR WOMAN is worth fighting for when they hurt you
april white no this is right. Men are hunters , little boys don’t chase.
She's attached to him because she dated him young n didn't get the chance to meet new ppl n experience new relationships, making up n breaking up, taking her time to choose the perfect man, etc... N besides Jay had money when they were dating, clearly Beyonce also wanted a man who's got wealth before she became as wealthy... Rmbr she was 18, she was a kid
Lacey Racey. money still. that's why she didn't leave him. they don't want to give up that power. he is still with his Beckys. Bey is just a side chick...lol
Exactly
I wouldn’t say a “kid” I mean damn in most countries you could start drinking alcohol at 16 even 14. But, she definitely was a young teen who was still pretty stupid.
Because of money! Jayz is no ordinary man hes a billionare he owns a damn frickin empire beyonce wants that power and the image she protecting for so long!
I also feel that management of both parties encouraged the relationship and saw the financial benefits that it would bring
Once a cheater, always a cheater
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Lily27 not fact remember we humans and we are bound to make mistakes
that's not mistake, that deliberate, just like the bible words and doing wrong which we shouldn't, so does marriage, if your'e not ready, don't marry then, mistake? if my girl decided to cheat on me and I found that out, she would be DUMPED and no getting back together. besides I probably don't get married because of evil people like jay z, two can play at this game!!!
u don't know me, LOVE BEYONCE but if she wrong, she's just wrong, i can't play the hypocrite, you don't hide the truth from who u love, truth has to be revealed. If he was the brokenhearted, she does not deserve him and by the way she would not cheat on him, he's just plain wicked, only evil does these things. Do onto others what you want for yourself, not saying you can't forgive in relationships, there's an end to all things, hitherto, it's still an evil thing to do to someone. He knows she's a good woman, hence the fight back for her love, then why you do it then, Ur completely playing nigga.
Girl bye
Cheating shouldn’t be an a unwritten obstacle for a perfect marriage. It’s not something that needs to be overcome to know that both people love each other because it shouldn’t even have happened in a marriage in the first place.
just because it not an obstacle you NEED to overcome doesnt mean that it shouldnt be overcome. if you can work it out and you WANT to work it out why shouldnt you? because someone else is holding a grudge for you?
I think she forgave him because she didnt want her children to grow up without a father. But then again out here there are things called co-parenting
He cheated before kids
That's the worst mistake ever.
@The Magic Twister Yup look at Ciara she livin her best life.
Flyyscorpio 22 fr. And her son got no problem with it. It’s less toxic to leave than stay. I feel bad for blue cause she has to put up with this.
I'd rather be a super wealthy single mother, than a stupid, used up, humiliated, manipulated coward for staying with a completely self absorbed narcissistic cheater!
The beginning sounds so inappropriate. He welcomed her into adulthood. Wow. He was 30 and she was 18. I'm a beehive but damn couldn't be me or my kid
I thought the same
Nicole Corke still don’t understand why she’s revered as such a boss. A side from money I feel sorry for her not a woman I’d like to become. Self love is everything
I think in the same way
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@Observer Jr. She was 18 already
She forgave him because she's Hooked on Jay Z so he can more or less treat her however he likes.This is what happens when you get hooked on someone you put up with a load of nonsense.
N N Let her cheat on him and I bet he will be out the door! Period!
N N she was with him since 18 so hooked up
She's addicted,do you recall he bragged about disvirgining her?
Good girls like bad boys.
Ness HS they didn’t date when she was 18 dumb ass
@@alphabogeyman7462 That is a stupid stereotype. The world is MUCH wider and bigger than all those clishes, open your damn mind and maybe you will see this, child
She could’ve found a guy so in love and obsessed with her but she choose him. she doesn’t see her worth at all
I feel honestly so bad for her. She deserves better
@@Angel_Shyyy you talking like you know them personally is totally laughable😂😂😂😂.face ur life!!!!!
And you know this how?? Do u know your own worth???
@ Bella Hadid..... which is probably the main reason she enrolled Blue in those Confidence Classes so early......
So true.
Because their marriage is a brand and she cares way too much about her image.
Plus the whole cheated but forgiving wife thing made for edgy album material.
Its all business
I'm "amazed" that the public and the fans aren't fooled by the fact that Jay Z has been banging women that aren't Beyoncé on a consistent basis.
Mike Kossifas
Couldn’t agree with you more
U are right is no love there ...it all business
No thats no true don’t talk about what you don’t know
Bruh how can someone like Jay-Z could cheat on someone like Beyoncé -.-‘
She is a human being at the end of the day simply with talent, beauty and deep pockets. Like other successful stars.
$$$$$$
@@marimac182 So you are saying men are dogs who should be thrown aside after having their kids and taking half of their money.
@@alluringbliss4165 she needs to satisfy her husband sexually, Marriage is supposed to be sacred.. she should not stop being a freak sexually with her husband. Unfortantantly these days there is no more repect for marriage vows. Men are going MGTOW and women have gone into feminsim movement. Men will continue to use women as sexual objects... married men will cheat no mattrr what but will never leave wifey.. some do tho... it goes both ways, men who don't satify their wives sexually also are high risk for cheating... and at the end of the day you are just a sexual object.... Married or not men love pussy and ass
because He can, just like any other man, its about him not her!
She has all this power, beauty, talent, money, influence and STILL lets him treat her that way. He took her best years from her, mistreating her all this time. She still freaking sings all those songs. It’s really a shame. I don’t believe a truly confident person would let themselves be treated like that. To me her still being with him and giving him her love and devotion screams insecurity. About what who the hell knows but I’m just so confused why she is still with his old ass.
Treat her like what? You talk like he beat the shit out her. They just have to renew their vows.when the love is real Love, it conquers all.
@@lauramaltez4511 wtf? You can hurt someone other than physically. He is toxic and beyonce is an idiot. Nothing more and nothing less. If you think this is what true love looks like then just wait till you get into a relationship like this.
How did he take her best years from her. You people are sick
Moni Pampeloni She's a virgo. That explains it.
Moni Pampeloni u should worry about ur confident ass and go away
"Because they truly love each other... They stayed together."
Naw bruh, he got all his side piece goals Accomplished, so now he can be faithful. Jay was a dog bro lol😂
He still is. More money, more problems.
Once a dog always a dog , a leopard never looses it's spots they may get smaller but they never leave ...
@@pamaladarling6600 Exactly. Time is definitely not on her side. Stars shine bright with youth and vitality. Age makes the lights go dim you with a quickness.
I don't think she stayed with him to keep the "power couple" status, she stayed with him because he is all she has ever know in terms of relationships, love and commitment. What kept her was also the belief that the man she trusted so very much and loved whole heartedly would come back to her... also they have a kid together, maybe staying together and trying again was because of Blue?
Exactly
They have 3 kids
He also cheated before the kids
@@Charlotte-oe3hl there’s no proof of this lmao
I'm in a similar situation n its not a easy thing especially if kids are involved. The only thing between me n Bey is that she has the money , fame, beauty n talent, she can do something about it if she wants. I wish her all the luck n blessing that she n J will be ok.
I always assumed that she forgave him because their Net worth combined is a billion dollars 😬💰💵
Eww! Wrong! She has her own money! Doesn't need to keep him in her life. In fact I think she makes more than him.
@@juliennesoniamalabomakong9021 try rereading what I said. I said that their net worth COMBINED is one Billion dollars. It didn't mention anything about her making more than him or her needing him.
@@natiliee.s.5476 I'm with you on that. Their marriage is a brand. It's bad for their business if they break up.
beyonce alone owns a fortune of 2.2 billion, better inform yourself well😘
@@MiguelDiaz-et3hd she does in her arse own that much.
When you cheat on someone how can you continue to say you love that person thats lies
U right 👍🏾 !
If someone cheats on you they clearly dont love you anymore but they keep telling themselves that so they believe it even more
It’s sad, because he gets so self-conscious when men are around her. I remember Sean Paul saying how Jay tried to block him performing “Baby Boy” live with Beyoncé.
Cheaters often are that way. Worried everyone else is as down and dirty as them, I guess.
thats a sign of him cheating, hes assuming she might do the same its not love its control and paranoia
It's a shame she missed an opportunity to show so many women and girls that she was as strong as they think she is.
You deserve what you tolerate.
I agree that she portrays a strong independent woman that she isn't, but you can't say that people deserve what they tolerate. Women know that they are being disrespected but feel too vulnerable to leave. I've done that many times.
@@Bargaingirlforlife I personally feel like it's a bit much saying she isn't strong just because she forgave him ,outside of her relationship she is still an amazing role model as an artist who achieved the impossible especially in such a suffocating industry, she has also dedicated a lot of her work to young black girls and inspires many through her voice, she has went through so much as a person and is still standing with pride which seems pretty strong to me
@@Bargaingirlforlife also I dont think a woman's strength is completely determined by how she deals with her relationships
im so disappointed she stayed with him after making lemonade. even embraced him in one of the videos. like all of it means nothing if u stay. its just an empty threat. it would have been more impressive if she broke up with him instead of the whole album
it's crazy that yall stay blaming her for falling into manipulation yet hate that she stayed with him past that?
Legend has it that he's still cheating today
"To all my thugs, cheat the fuck on........ Mane fuck all that faithful shit bruh..... Its too many hoes out here mane...."
Prolly
Kiffany Gulley yes there are too many hoes with STD'S good luck if you catch that s*** you gone need the luck
😂💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Because she’s very insecure
And like you said,she was pretty naive,when she met him.
KiddRogers Lol
she’s not insecure she’s very pretty.
@@jamylovee
What does being pretty, have to do with insecurities.
Some of the most gorgeous looking people in the world are still very insecure about their looks,and other aspects of their lives.
And need constant attention and reassurance.
And some are also very vain
@@jamylovee the most gorgeous women in the world are the most insecure. Research has proved that.
This is exactly why you should not post your personal life on social media or discuss it outside the marriage. The media can be so cold.
Yeah, staying with a (repetitive) cheater is humiliating.
Right! But he always come back so 🤷🏾♀️😂!
Yup-wonder what that prenup looks like
For her, not him. Bey needs to keep up or leave.
Beyonce is a damn fool for forgive him for cheating on her for a couple of time! Oh hell naw!!
It was more than a couple, he only admitted to a couple. Apparently she trust him with her life, she keep having babies by him.
If u don't forgive GOD Will Not Forgive You but she doesn't half to stay with him for cheating
"they decided to fight through and stay together for love" never have i once seen someone who actually loves or at least gives a shit about their partner even think about cheating and then "fight through hard times for LOVE"
GOOD LUCK FINDING SOMEONE ELSE TO STAY BY UR SIDE THROUGH HARD SHIT AND STAY LOYAL AND FAITHFUL.....
You can love someone and cheat on her ... Especially when all your life you’ve been around gangster and prostitute, and that you could smash everygirl in the world ..
It’s a program in the subconscious, that’s why change is difficult.
Especially for us men because we are made to reproduce .
You know i was with a girl when i was 16-18 she was my first « long relation » and was crazy in love, but i cheated on her 2 times and she live me.
And i suffered i was almost in depression because lf that, with guilt and shame but i understand im a man now so i don’t engage in serious relation because i know im weak and i don’t want to hurt a girl, i don’t want to hate myself ..
@@aprilgaines2132 Sorry-- love goes out the window after repeated cheating and humiliation. Not to mention STDs that Will effect your health and/or your reproductive organs for the rest of your life-- potentially leaving you susceptible to different cancers and potential death. Sorry--I 💗 me and my life. I’m not ride or die like that. That’s just pure ridiculousness.
@@Anthonydu01630 Cheating is a choice! You chose to cheat, and she chose herself and she chose to leave you. She was not going to put her reproductive health in jeopardy. And cheating men don’t think about the health concerns that they create in their selfish wake. Oh--not to mention when you pollute a woman’s womb, you potentially pollute a baby’s first home, even if you decide to stay with a woman or not.
@@Anthonydu01630 what did you expect you did that to yourself if you truly loved her you would of thought of her feelings and not of cheated there are people who have been together for 30 + years and grow up with that mid seat and have never cheated she should of left sorry
He only wanted Beyoncé for bragging rights towards other men. He knew that everyone wanted her. "I got the baddest girl in the game wearing my chain". How else would he go from rapping about being a player forever to getting married? He wasn't ready.
I mean aaliyah and the beyonce confusion.. is he a man with several wifes.. got alot of haters..
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU, NO MATTER HOW WEALTHY OR BEAUTIFUL YOU ARE....WHAT LIES IN THE HEART OF A MAN/WOMAN... SHALL COME TO PASS!!! 💯💯
Jeez not all man are cheaters woman cheat too you know...just go to show how stupid society is to say a whole gender is made by cheaters BY ONE person
Come to pass. But yes you are correct.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I can understand her wanting to stay with him out of love and family and a sense of duty in general (to family, to fans, to whoever) but on another hand, I think Bee is a wonderful woman who doesn't deserve this treatment.
And for how long can they continue in a marriage where they write songs that throw shade at each other? It's not healthy Bee. This is an example of a toxic relationship and I finally respect Rihanna for choosing to leave Chris Brown not because she didn't love him anymore but because even at that young age, she UNDERSTOOD that the world was watching and she was sending a message to women out there.
Bee, I hope you are happy, and hope you wake up soon. You deserve so much more.
18 year old girl dating a 30 year old man makes you a bad girl forever. I don't see how she can move from thar to a great woman traditionally.
@@cullinan5772 at least she was legal... I try not to judge age gaps. Kinda approach that the same way I will approach a 30 year old woman dating a 42 year old.
+magdalene adjei When you are an adult it is kinda reasonable in my opinion. I'm not a relationship expert but 18 vs 30 is just way too much. I'm 28 but dating someone 10 years younger than me makes me feel so uneasy and as if I'm taking advantage for some reasons. That's just a teenager to rather give advice than date.
I love how you expressed your self a lot but the part where you mentioned on the world watching. Must such a personal decision be about concern of women in the world watching. ? Imagine her leaving husband to look good to others in the world. That wouldn’t be fair on her though yes she deserves way better than that treatment Shame. Wish them well too. Relationships are complex
@@rumbidzamakondora Mostly, I believe in privacy of assets, feelings, life in general but let's face it. The moment you become a "celebrity" some aspects of your life are yours and others are yours and your entire fan base's.
One of such is HOW you react to issues. Yes, its personal and I get that (more than I'm putting off) but I also know there are 3 year olds, 12 year olds and 25 year olds who have Bee as a role model...all these people learn.
So yes, I believe she deserves her privacy but I also believe she should think about all those impressionable people looking up to her (they sort of become stakeholders) and I think this is something everybody should understand before choosing a life in the spotlight.
I hope that makes a little more sense?😊
jay z has a son? Not from beyonce? WHATTTT
bakers trips Its fake
Yes. And beyonce didnt want him to have anything to do with the child. Karma!
Jay z only have 3 kids and those are Beyoncé’s kids
no he dont💀💀
That 50 year old Brooklynite has more than 3 kids for sure!!
Imagine being a man so weak and so empty that having that goddess in your bed, wearing your ring, and bearing your children and trusting you with her heart just made you greedy for another conquest.
She stayed with him for the kids. And the fact that she’s Beyoncé. When you have that kind of status you can’t just remarry. People will get with you for your fame, money, and fortune.
And to those saying she stayed for the Jay Z name, she would be even bigger if they broke up. Imagine Lemonade with them broken up. She would’ve sold out in advance.
Look at how Toni Braxton dealt with things.
Don't care about these people .....He is low life trash ...cant keep his Willy where it belongs .
She should have left for Blue. Now shes gonna grow Up knowing ger dad is a fucking asshole and that thats what you deal with as a woman.
Yes but don't think its sick that Jay-Z is exploiting the fact that she can't date anyone else?? And staying with a cheater for children is disastrous. All she's doing is teaching her kids that a relationship full of lies is something ok to settle for. The situation is fucked up and from where I'm standing it looks like he cheats because he's insecure and selfish and she stays beacuse she's insecure and scared.
DarkRose Facts upon facts 💯💯💯
The warning signs were there Beyoncé. But that’s none of my business.
Rich Men knows that beautiful women will always be around them. And, she does, too.
lucy Ngubeni a 30 y|o man dating an 18 y|o girl was a HUGE sign. A sign of immaturity
Egypts Pyramid *egypts pyramid* also a sign of a creeping fuckboy ass nigga wanting to fuck the innonce out of her. Men like him who go after 18 year olds just want the fresh variety of getting young easily controlled pussy and once the newness wares off and they did all they could do with girls like her they stray unless she's bad and they cant do better. idgaf how people feel about beyonce her mother should have cut that shit off quick. but she was technically legal and the biggest rap star back then.
Bet on everything if jay was an upcoming nobody or underground trynna make it like kanye she wouldnt have fucked with him at all.
@Reality Creator & Shifter i know soooo many women just like beyonce. This song speaks volumes
The signs were there before they even got together! She just thought she was special lol
More cheаting to come, one sided love never gonnа work.
She loves him, he loves other femаles, his is purpose in their relаtionship is emotionаl аbuse, аnd benefit from her populаrity.
you know what the problem is here? No one has faith. People do change. and thats something she has chosen , so why cant everyone just have love . Its their relationship.
Bruh 4:44?
Superstar Lula. money and Becky girls, that all Jay wants...
Superstar Lula Dumb ahh he’s more popular 🤦♂️
Superstar Lula and he’s worth more than half of what she has 🤦♂️
Until you find yourself in someone's situation, you can't begin to understand what they're going through or their choices
What's crazy to me is that he has a son he never even talks about.
He got a plenty kids he don't talk about it will comeback to haunt him when Beyonce kids grow up
So true
2019 when you can cheat on Beyoncé ain’t non of us safe
She is human like anyone else
No that just means that he is a dick
News flash as long as there is the abundance of our sugar walls, 95% of men will try to get as much of it as they can and it oftentimes has nothing to do with the woman or whether they are married. That is why women like Halle and Beyonce can get cheated on. Only a man that is ready to commit to one woman will not cheat or will stop cheating. And remember ladies he is everybody's man he wants to be with until he says I do, then and only then is he cheating on you. Your boyfriend doesn't cheat on you he keeps his options open.
Must be a statement from a woman that does not understand what actually makes a man fall in love.
This is a joke why your'l making it so personal 🙄
Beyoncé forgave Jay-Z because Beyoncé wanted to. Simple as that. This video was not necessary.
Devin Simmons I agree.
It’s her choice and her judgment to do so. Maybe she doesn’t take it as personally and realizes it’s his issues and means nothing about her worth. She’s too busy doing boss shit to care. Maybe he’s worth it to her. Maybe everything else is wonderful. I mean how would we know?
Jessica Armenta Finally! Someone with sense!!! Thank you
Devin Simmons :)
Final Boy It’s nice that you feel that way
Devin Simmons Well the bitch needs to get her some self esteem instead of staying with a cheater!!!
This marriage is a sham, Beyonce is a fool, a cheater doesnt change his spots. Some ppl are just too scared to let go and move on. There is no respect in this relationship, just lies and betrayal. Wake up!
Agreee
Move onto what? She’s about 40 with 3 kids
When we allow Adultery and Violence Into our sacred union. Trust is gone.
:(
Jay Z already had a past Beyonce should've never dated nor married him
Yes..and we have some idiots who give reasons for cheating too.. they will give for terrorism too.. that we r all human beings and mistake happens..i bet they will be the one to give shout if someone cheat on them
He would have been dumped if he was broke like her first boyfriend...
Ain't no third,fourth chances in a relationship ✌
🤟
Amen say it again
N cheating is not no dam accident or mistake. U don’t accidentally slip in another woman’s parts
Say it again 🗣🗣🤣
@@khaniyah1494 right
She portrays a strong independent woman in her songs but in a relationship she's a dependent and weak girl, just like we all are. I've done it, I've stayed and knew I was weak.
The most honest truth I've heard in a long time from a woman 👠
I wouldn’t say we all I have never and will never stay with someone who disrespects me some people just have more self respect and love than others I watched my mom let men treat her like a doormat my whole childhood and I refuse to ever be that pathetic might seem harsh but it is very pathetic to lower your self worth and self love to make a man feel like more of a man so many women are so willing to let a man treat them however they please rather than be lonely and it’s very sad
@@biancafoster5083 although you have a point, you're forgetting to understand why some people allow that kind of treatment, most of us struggle with mental health issues and to some point allow abuse. Can't just brush everyone with the same brush, you don't know people's circumstances
@@Bargaingirlforlife so instead of going to therapy to work on your issues and better yourself you decide to let a man treat you like a doormat? It’s hard to feel bad when someone doesn’t even wanna try but good luck with that hope you find self love and worth one day
@@biancafoster5083 as a struggling student in a foreign country who made enough to pay rent and bills and some food, I didn't even know where and how to get help. I didn't have a family to move back to, I didn't have many friends and in fact all my student friends were also foreign. You clearly don't understand why people can be so low that they allow abuse. You don't know people or their circumstances, women know they're treated badly. You seem to lack compassion and understanding and remind me of an Easter European mother or grandmother who was born during communism and just said "get on with it, we had a harder life than you and we're fine".
She hasn't forgiven him, they aren't a real couple, they are just like the Beckhams, they are worth more together than apart and not just in terms of money, they are a brand!
IDGAF about his money period; I loved him before I ever knew. Did all i could help him or anyone in his family so leave money out this FR FR!! Damn this
the beckhams werent worth nearly as much as they are today when they got together.
Unfortunately, we as human beings have a tendency to love those who hurt us most. That’s why I don’t believe your statement is true. The man I loved most in the world is the man who hurt me most. Try as I may, I can never get myself to hate him even though I have hated others for far less.
Voll die kaputten diese Möchtegern
And the Beckham's have herpes btw.
When he said “who was 30 at the time” I SCREAMED LIKE DAAAMMMNNNN
Marriage is work both parties have to be in it for the same reasons.i wish them happiness.
Beyoncé being so open about her pain of being betrayed by her husband just solidified, in my opinion, the absolute QUEEN that she is.
For a lot of women and men, being cheated on is humiliating snd life changing. Beyoncé telling her story is not only so brave, but also shows that being cheated on has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!! AND HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE CHEATER!!!
if you truly love each other, you don't cheat 🤷♀️
when a powerful and famous women in USA "forgives her husband and stands by her man" and another woman in Afghanistan stays with her man because she has no other choice....I have nothing to say anymore.
Ouch!!! Daaaang!!! Drop the mic!!
She loved him and loves him. She has been through a lot and they have children together she wants to stick by him. Sometimes things get tough but she doesn’t want to leave him she has stuck by him. She wants her kids to have two parents and wants to keep their power couple image together and is just trying to live her life. Remember she is human too and so is Jay they go through the same stuff we do and get criticised for it because they are in the public eye. just let them live their lives how they want to and respect their privacy. Love you Queen Beyoncé🥰❤️
The issue with this is that children grow and start listening at school, reading watching RUclips and 2 things may happen, or her girls become strong self respected women that won’t take disrespect from a man or they become like their mom, submissive with low self esteem. Same goes to the boy or he copy his dad cheating ways or become a guy that repeal that behavior Bc he saw his mom suffer. Staying in a toxic relationship for our kids it’s the number one mistake human can do. They copy our actions not what we say.
I don't know. Being with a person who cheats on you constantly is denigrating...
@@jeniferespinoza1482 but he doesnt do that anymore though....people change.
@@Idaliasantana68 but they arent toxic anymore though and you can see a very clear difference idk why yall think that people dont change.
Proves that a woman's beauty has nothing to do with a man's character 💯💯💯💯
If he calls her “bae” one more time💀
For real 🙄
OMG I KNOW Ahahha ❌ one way to press the hive 🐝
women jus sacrifice more than men...its a damn FACT in everyshape n form.👍😔
@KiddRogers u soooooooo RIGHT!!!!
Troof.
KiddRogers i agree,she sets a bad example for her daughters too
Where are those women who sacrifice more than men?
True..they r like more attached in relationship or in family ..that douchebag even doesn't care for his children that how bad influence will gt on children..he is just moneybag otherwise he has nothing to offer..he is even nothing with Beyonce in todays world...if u say
So y'all ain't gonna question why jay was doing with a teen 11 years younger than him????? Huh??? Isn't that disgusting to y'all????
Fam what are you talking about? She was 27 & he was 38 when they got married.
@@mattd9881 he'd been dating her since she was 18!
Cherry Moore- No they weren't. There is absolutely no way he was dating her back in 1999-2000. While she was still in Destiny's Child.
They only met when she was 18. They didn't start dating until like a year and half or two years later. Which means she was close to 20
And Beyoncé was ok with it...soooo?
How this man could convince such talented and gorgeous women to fool around with is BEYOND me🤦🏻♀️
When she has no more to give she will be thrown under the bus
I luv luv luv luv SOLANGE......poor Beyoncé once a cheater always a cheater he probably just more smart and respectful about it
I adore Solange, I was not surprise when they said she was divorcing. I knew she was going to EXIT the marriage real quick. She is not going to compromise with no man.
Exactly
He’ll keep it out of her view and he’ll keep it out of site from his kids. But something will always be off, and always an underlying uneasiness in the air. That’s what my pops did. My mother was still unhappy. She was always borderline mean/mad-- but she decided to stay and put up with his 💩. That situation ALWAYS trickles down to the children. ALWAYS. Kids deserve happy parents, not a dysfunctional household.
@@artiswilkins306 poor Bey. What's off is the fact she got a demon soul inhabiting her body named "Sasha Fierce" that takes control of her body. Hollywood needs Jesus.
I 've never heard more stupid explanation of cheating than what Jay Z said
Up to go to co
You cheat because you have options, the only men that are not cheating is because no one wants them. No man is going to say no regardless of being "Happily" married.
@@theresa4832 Truest statement. Even the happiest man with the most perfect beautiful wife will take the opportunity if it is given.
Elina Olegovna Obeh nah you’ve just had bad experiences or been around people that have
@@Aditya-iz8rt I hear about it all the time, not just people I know but stuff like this video
Prayers go up for Beyonce. It's a dangerous situation she's currently in.
She's so beautiful and look atJayZ😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶
😆🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cuz he's a bad habit she hasn't learned to quit yet. She's gonna suffer a great deal before she finally develops wisdom and uses that wisdom.
He s too old to be cheating now
nonkavw ...sure is....
@@nonkavw Lol no, they get worse as they get old
Regardless of how beautiful she is, you cannot help a cheater.. it’s the cheater who is the problem and you can’t help them. 🤨
I agree, but most men cheat...
Alluring Bliss that’s a stereotype LMAO, and are you saying women don’t cheat? LUL
@@sunsetinseoul most
This is simply a Business Couple. Jay-Z with his trophy Wife. Beyonce The Lady with The perfect life where everything is perfect. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was dating her at 16 they just didn't go public til she was 18
she knew him way before 18 ..his info is inaccurate af
🧢 they started dating 2001 or 2002 and she was 20/21 at the time and he as either 31 or 32
Who would want this man I thought she could do a lot better staying for children is never the answer 😢😢🇬🇧
totally agree
She was 17yrs old per her own statement on Tyra Banks talk show. He's portrayed himself as a misogynistic arse and it seems he tries to live up to them. She shows she don't value herself they way she tells us to.
Can you imagine being Beyonce & your man cheats on you, the mistress must feel on top of the world smh who doesn’t know that Jayz is married to Bey? That’s crazy
Ring the alarm was not about Rihanna! They never dated Jay and Riri are Friends
Rihanna would never date him
Hopefully he learned his lesson from his infidelities & not cheat again but you never know what goes on behind closed doors
A guy is only as faithful as his options @ Chris Rock
Very true.
Trying to wrap my brain around how someone so beautiful can play a fool over and over again to someone so unattractive.
Can't really tell if they love each other or not
Cheating on someone is like saying "I don't care about this relationship." Tbh, I don't understand why they stayed together. I get working through hardships in marriage and all, but if you really love someone, you wouldn't cheat on them.
So when you truly love someone, you express that love by cheating???