Great video! Love your real world testing that's just not a regurgitation of hype. Helps too, that I bought my first ever mountain bike so many years ago from your old Kaysville store.
Great video. I just swapped out the Al bars on my Ripley AF for an Enve M6. I feel exactly as you're describing ... more in control, less feeling like the bars are nearly rattling out of your hand on the bumpier bits, etc.
Hey thanks! Those are some great bars. Good choice. If they made an alloy version, that's what I would have used for the test. Surprisingly it's tough to find someone who makes a carbon and alloy bar with the same specifications.
Great video about something I have always been curious about. My last new bike years ago came with aluminum bars, and I changed them to carbon and really noticed a difference on the washboard and rougher sections of trails. Always wondered if it was in my head though. This confirms what I always though but never actually blind tested. Makes me feel better about dropping the extra coin for fancy bars. I just hit the "Subscribe" button... well earned.
Awesome test! For a part 2 video, I would suggest a 35mm vs 31.8mm Renthal carbon blind test. Same stem manufacturer, same bar material, just swap between the harsh 35s to the better 31.8s..... yea, I'm a little biased!
I really don’t know why they’ve even invented 35mm handlebars? I’ve never ever heard someone complain that 31.8 bars aren’t stiff enough for them, quite the opposite is the case, like this Video showcased again. The only reason these 35mm bars exist is that the industry tried to push another useless standard on us, because people didn’t bought enough handlebars anymore. Now there’s something new, all the big bike media outlets report about it and boom people buy it because they don’t want to miss out on a trend. It’s ridiculous enough that there’s a new frame/fork/shock version every year that is magically better than last years model (at least that’s what they want to sell us) so a new component standard that performs worse is just ridiculous. I think the sweetspot for a life cycle update on Frames would be around 3 years (like it was about 8 years ago), because after that there really should be some new developments. But the yearly updates *and increased prices* of some manufacturers are nothing else than taking advantage of their dumb customers that have more money than brains. It’s ridiculous to think that my Nukeproof Mega 290 from 2016 is considered outdated with its 66deg headangle. Of course the people that make these claims have never ridden it, but heard the numbers and where shocked that someone rides steeper tracks with a „cross country headangle“ ( no shit that’s what I was recently told about my bike!) This stuff then keeps nagging you in the back of your head and you keep thinking if you should really upgrade even if your bikes feels amazing to yourself..
@@bikersedge While 35 was 100% marketing towards "stiffer bars", 31.8 usually feel better I think. That being said, we're in the early stages of seeing some pretty tuned 35 carbon bars from companies like OneUp and RaceFace, Renthal etc - I think we'll see even better ones in the next 2-3 years that'll put the 31.8 idea to bed.
@@dirteatinggrin OK, if the 35mm bars will have the compliance of the 31,8 bars the question still remains- what’s the point/benefit of the 35mm over the 31,8? Just another size to make things more complicated.
Wow. Did not expect that result at all 🤔 Dang! I've always been led to believe that carbon was more stiffer and I've just gone and bought the Renthal 31.8mm alu bars in the hope of being easier on my bad wrist.
it is a lot stiffer and takes a minute to get used to it but it helps you control you bike better and also absorbs the vibrations that go to your hands so their better for arm pump :D
@@lewisatkinson7277 if your down to spend $350 on bars… check out the flexx carbon bars! If your not, then check out rev grips. $90 grips but worth it!
I love tests like this. I have noticed differences between aluminum and carbon but the variables were always to many to make it definitive. I run 31.8 carbons for extra plush. I would like to see tests between 31.8 vs 35mm. Nice work.
@@destreal I have a Chromag cutlass 780mm riser I really like this bar. I have a race face next R 725mm riser on my xc bike perfect for a lighter bike or smaller rider. I have a ibis 750-800 riser with replaceable screw in ends trimmed to 770mm, this bar is okay not crazy about the bar sizing method. Not able to safely run the grips I like because I cannot use bar ends.
My old bike had a carbon bar and my new one has aluminum. Doesn’t feel as good and after watching this video I’m more confident it wasn’t just in my head. Guess that means I have to spend some money. Great video.
I am new to this channel, I love the content so far…That looks like the Salt Lake bench, you should tell your viewers what trial you are on. I watched another video you made and you where riding Trailside Park in Park City.
Hey thanks! I keep the names out of the videos on purpose. Happy to answer on a one by one basis but I don’t know if it’s a good idea to broadcast them all.
Thanks for the kind words. I usually try to not blow up the trails on the internet too much so I just answer them in the comments. This one is called Terror Ridge.
i use renthal carbon bars but occasionally get arm pump/hand fatigue. i notice i get it first run on a particular rocky descent then i do it right after and not as much fatigue. which i think equates to muscles relaxing into the ride more the second time. could this be the case here?
@@johnnybaridi I have a bad thumb and wrist so I’m really sensitive to bars that are too stiff. Not everyone will feel the same but I can’t do alloy bars. I always prefer a flexier carbon bar.
thanks for the video, I've been trying to find info as specific as this, and its encouraged me towards my next upgrade on my road bike. different to a mountain bike but am certain it will have similar results. its the high frequency vibrations on the balls of your palms that fatigue with aluminium, gloves mitigate it but carb bars will be better for me.
I just put raceface sixc carbon bars on my ripley af after riding nothing but aluminum bars for years. In my opinion it's one of the best upgrades that I've ever done.
@@bikersedge I am in the process of changing my headset and then my handlebars to Carbon and have never done it before, so have been watching all sorts of videos on how to do it. I am a bit worried about the correct torque to use when I tighten the carbon handlebars.
Good video, was wondering how the heck you were going to "blind" test handlebars, since seeing is quite important :-D LOL. Good that it was an apples to apples comparison between the same brand, but a bit too much of a generalization that carbon is always better, in theory yes, in practice, not always, have read reviews that came to the opposite conclusion comparing bars between a manufacturer were the carbon was just too stiff. On the flip side, never forget going to check out and help setup an Sworks SJ FSR back in about 2014, when I hoped on the bike and stood up and put good force through the bar it felt like a wet noodle and you could visibly see it flexing up and down, it moved that much, scary AF, definitely not what I want.
Agreed. Not all carbon bars are created equal. The best feeling bars I’ve ridden so far are the Oneup components and the Enve, especially 31.8mm enve bars.
Had an RM Altitude Rally with RaceFace Next Carbons, best bike ever, never a hand issue. Sold it went to a RM Slayer 770 with RaceFace All. 800 35mm Atlas and had lots of numbness and tingling in my hands, swapped them out fir RF SIX 800 35mm(stiffest carbon RF makes) numbness gone. Say what you want but theres a reason photographers like carbon tripods over Aluminum... vibration reduction.
Interesting sum up. I have a bad wrist and i am searching for the right bar. Thought 31.8 + Alu is going to do the job. Also most of the EWS guys go alloy cause of damping reasons. So i am just confused on what i should do. But interesting that you feel carbon flexes more?! I might test the one up carbon bar.
@@81sante Not flexes (carbon is far stiffer depending on layup) more its damper than Aluminum, so it transfers less vibration meaning less stress on your hands and wrists.
I watch a lot of your guys videos and being a norther utah native as well i wish you would specify what trails you're riding in the videos. Some look amazing and I want to go try them out...
It's like the steering damper on the VW, when it went bad the road imperfections, potholes and even the more pronounced lines in the road were moving the steering wheel around in my hand and one pothole actually jerked the wheel out of my hand and sprained a finger in the process, that's when I decided I was no longer able to ''live with it'' and decided to figure out what went wrong with my steering. An installed $68 damper later, smooooth as silk again, and though there's obviously a big difference between an hydraulic damper and a flexing piece of metal, the end result is more similar than different and that's the best comparison I can make. The "flex" of the Ti isn't what I was fearing when everyone told me, "They're going to be flexy!" but instead it was like they became a damper between the trail rocks, gnarr and such - trying to jerk the bars out of my grasp - to absorbing just enough to make it seem like the trail is smoother than it is _without_ negatively effecting the steering, handling or confidence - in fact they've INCREASED my confidence. Whew@! Sorry about the "Book" - lol And I guessed right! I figured Green for "Greenhorn" or the aluminum bars a beginner would have, and Orange for "Orange you glad you upgraded to Carbon!" 😉 - I'd love it if you'd do a video now testing Ti bars against Carbon - if you can find any Ti long enough for your Gorilla arms! - lol
Depends on the carbon bar. I've had some that absorb vibrations. My current 35mm Chromag BZA carbon bars are stiff AF. Which is kinda too bad cuz I bought them to go on my rigid in the hopes that they would dampen things a bit.
Would you recommend a carbon bar for an enduro bike? Are they “safe enough” on steep rocky terrain, jumps, roots, etc.? I’ve heard they tend to break easier than aluminum bars.
@@bikersedge NOPE THE BAR IS 22.2 SO U COULD USE A BMX STEM. I HAVE A DEITY 31.8 STEM 35MM REACH AND ZERO PROBLEMS RIDING EVERYDAY FOR THE PAST 5 MONTHS.
i searched for "Orbea RIse" and ended up here, incredible, yes that is the right bike, but it isn't mentioned anywhere, unless they use speech recognition ?
This is a great comparison for renthal. Which are some of the stiffest carbon bars out there. I would suggest trying raceface or enve. This would provide a better comparison of materials.
Unfortunately you can't compare carbon and alloy with Enve. They don't make an alloy bar. It was surprisingly tricky to find two bars with the same dimensions and different materials.
Love these videos... need MOAR! What bike were you on, not your Spur? Would Spur suspension handle that chatter well? Spur X01 comes with One Up carbon bars so One Up bar vs Renthal... which one is better for vertical compliance?
Hey thanks! Now that the weather is good and trails are opening up around the shop, we should be back to our weekly schedule - hopefully. I was on my Orbea Rise. The eBike makes these back to back tests easier. Less fatigue to factor in. I'd need to ride those Oneup bars back to back with another carbon bar, but I did like them a lot on my Spur.
See what snap first you'll soon know. I went back to the alloy after the carbon snapped on flat ground trust in then and all carbon bars has gone for now
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I've been seeing these smaller channels do way better jobs than pinbike and all those other things
Thanks for the kind words! It's fun making these videos. Glad folks are liking them.
Nice vids! Great to see a local shop making high quality MTB content.
Thanks! Stoked you like them.
Great video! Love your real world testing that's just not a regurgitation of hype. Helps too, that I bought my first ever mountain bike so many years ago from your old Kaysville store.
Stoked you like the videos! Thanks for the kind words and support.
Great video. I just swapped out the Al bars on my Ripley AF for an Enve M6. I feel exactly as you're describing ... more in control, less feeling like the bars are nearly rattling out of your hand on the bumpier bits, etc.
Right on! I was stoked to see a good result with the blind test.
Cool video! Made me feel better about popping for OneUp carbon.
Hey thanks! Those are some great bars. Good choice. If they made an alloy version, that's what I would have used for the test. Surprisingly it's tough to find someone who makes a carbon and alloy bar with the same specifications.
@@bikersedge Race Face Next/ Turbine :)
That’s a relief, because I just reviewed why I prefer carbon bars. For the same reasons your giving, 👍
Nice. Glad To hear I’m not crazy.
Great video about something I have always been curious about. My last new bike years ago came with aluminum bars, and I changed them to carbon and really noticed a difference on the washboard and rougher sections of trails. Always wondered if it was in my head though. This confirms what I always though but never actually blind tested. Makes me feel better about dropping the extra coin for fancy bars. I just hit the "Subscribe" button... well earned.
Stoked you liked it! Thanks for the subscribe!
Would be cool to test the Spank vibrocore foam filled aluminium bars as well
Awesome test! For a part 2 video, I would suggest a 35mm vs 31.8mm Renthal carbon blind test. Same stem manufacturer, same bar material, just swap between the harsh 35s to the better 31.8s..... yea, I'm a little biased!
I'm down to do the video but I already know the answer. I'll take 31.8 all day.
I really don’t know why they’ve even invented 35mm handlebars?
I’ve never ever heard someone complain that 31.8 bars aren’t stiff enough for them, quite the opposite is the case, like this Video showcased again.
The only reason these 35mm bars exist is that the industry tried to push another useless standard on us, because people didn’t bought enough handlebars anymore.
Now there’s something new, all the big bike media outlets report about it and boom people buy it because they don’t want to miss out on a trend.
It’s ridiculous enough that there’s a new frame/fork/shock version every year that is magically better than last years model (at least that’s what they want to sell us) so a new component standard that performs worse is just ridiculous.
I think the sweetspot for a life cycle update on Frames would be around 3 years (like it was about 8 years ago), because after that there really should be some new developments.
But the yearly updates *and increased prices* of some manufacturers are nothing else than taking advantage of their dumb customers that have more money than brains.
It’s ridiculous to think that my Nukeproof Mega 290 from 2016 is considered outdated with its 66deg headangle.
Of course the people that make these claims have never ridden it, but heard the numbers and where shocked that someone rides steeper tracks with a „cross country headangle“ ( no shit that’s what I was recently told about my bike!)
This stuff then keeps nagging you in the back of your head and you keep thinking if you should really upgrade even if your bikes feels amazing to yourself..
Marketing at its best right there.
@@bikersedge While 35 was 100% marketing towards "stiffer bars", 31.8 usually feel better I think. That being said, we're in the early stages of seeing some pretty tuned 35 carbon bars from companies like OneUp and RaceFace, Renthal etc - I think we'll see even better ones in the next 2-3 years that'll put the 31.8 idea to bed.
@@dirteatinggrin OK, if the 35mm bars will have the compliance of the 31,8 bars the question still remains- what’s the point/benefit of the 35mm over the 31,8? Just another size to make things more complicated.
Awesome video. If you don’t wanna feel anything, envy carbon stem carbon bars, and Wolf Tooth fat Paul grips, it feels smooth.
Hey thanks. I was surprised at how apparent the difference was.
Wow. Did not expect that result at all 🤔 Dang! I've always been led to believe that carbon was more stiffer and I've just gone and bought the Renthal 31.8mm alu bars in the hope of being easier on my bad wrist.
it is a lot stiffer and takes a minute to get used to it but it helps you control you bike better and also absorbs the vibrations that go to your hands so their better for arm pump :D
@@xElectricblaze Thanks. Interesting. Too stiff for weak wrists from previous breaks?
@@lewisatkinson7277 if your down to spend $350 on bars… check out the flexx carbon bars! If your not, then check out rev grips. $90 grips but worth it!
way to go, super cool test. Awesome channel!
Thank you very much!
I love tests like this. I have noticed differences between aluminum and carbon but the variables were always to many to make it definitive. I run 31.8 carbons for extra plush. I would like to see tests between 31.8 vs 35mm. Nice work.
31.8 all day.
Why is a 31.8 better? Also, would you mix a carbon bar w/ an alloy stem?
May I know the 31.8 carbon bar you running?
@@destreal I have a Chromag cutlass 780mm riser I really like this bar.
I have a race face next R 725mm riser on my xc bike perfect for a lighter bike or smaller rider.
I have a ibis 750-800 riser with replaceable screw in ends trimmed to 770mm, this bar is okay not crazy about the bar sizing method. Not able to safely run the grips I like because I cannot use bar ends.
My old bike had a carbon bar and my new one has aluminum. Doesn’t feel as good and after watching this video I’m more confident it wasn’t just in my head. Guess that means I have to spend some money. Great video.
I was surprised at how big of a difference they make!
I am new to this channel, I love the content so far…That looks like the Salt Lake bench, you should tell your viewers what trial you are on. I watched another video you made and you where riding Trailside Park in Park City.
Hey thanks! I keep the names out of the videos on purpose. Happy to answer on a one by one basis but I don’t know if it’s a good idea to broadcast them all.
Thank you so much for your test. I'm riding a Trail bike with Alu bar and good to know what will be the feel with a carbon bar.
I think they’re worth the upgrade. My hands thanked me.
Great test as usual, thanks and keep it up, really good relevant content.
Glad you liked it!
Love the video! I'm just moving to Utah, and would love to see you guys post links to where you're riding so I can check out the trails!
Thanks for the kind words. I usually try to not blow up the trails on the internet too much so I just answer them in the comments. This one is called Terror Ridge.
Zack's just wrapping up, eh? Also, did anyone else get excited about potential bike parts being on the UPS truck for delivery? Great video!
Effing love this blind test!
Glad you like it. It was fun to do.
Any chance of a 31.8 vs 35mm handlebar comparison. Cheers
I can try to make that one happen!
@@bikersedge Cheers. That would be nice. It would go well with this video and the stem length\bar width video.
i had the impression i actually could SEE the difference !
You are not allowed to do that. It's a blind test 😁
i use renthal carbon bars but occasionally get arm pump/hand fatigue. i notice i get it first run on a particular rocky descent then i do it right after and not as much fatigue. which i think equates to muscles relaxing into the ride more the second time. could this be the case here?
That’s not something I usually experience. My arm pump just gets worse with more laps.
@@bikersedge so carbon bars would usually be better off then? wondered about switching back to alloy
@@johnnybaridi I have a bad thumb and wrist so I’m really sensitive to bars that are too stiff. Not everyone will feel the same but I can’t do alloy bars. I always prefer a flexier carbon bar.
Beautiful trail.. Where are you? Love the snow capped mountains in the background.
This is in the foothills above SLC, UT
MT Zoom do a nice carbon bar at just 121g for their riser.
thanks for the video, I've been trying to find info as specific as this, and its encouraged me towards my next upgrade on my road bike. different to a mountain bike but am certain it will have similar results. its the high frequency vibrations on the balls of your palms that fatigue with aluminium, gloves mitigate it but carb bars will be better for me.
I was surprised at how big of a difference they made. I used to think it didn’t really matter that much. Then I did this test.
Thats expert riding,great channel
Thanks 👍
I just put raceface sixc carbon bars on my ripley af after riding nothing but aluminum bars for years. In my opinion it's one of the best upgrades that I've ever done.
It makes a bigger difference than I imagined.
Great video! Nice scenery as well!
Hey thanks!
@@bikersedge I am in the process of changing my headset and then my handlebars to Carbon and have never done it before, so have been watching all sorts of videos on how to do it. I am a bit worried about the correct torque to use when I tighten the carbon handlebars.
Most bars will have a max torque setting printed on them. Usually somewhere around 6NM.
Good video, was wondering how the heck you were going to "blind" test handlebars, since seeing is quite important :-D LOL. Good that it was an apples to apples comparison between the same brand, but a bit too much of a generalization that carbon is always better, in theory yes, in practice, not always, have read reviews that came to the opposite conclusion comparing bars between a manufacturer were the carbon was just too stiff. On the flip side, never forget going to check out and help setup an Sworks SJ FSR back in about 2014, when I hoped on the bike and stood up and put good force through the bar it felt like a wet noodle and you could visibly see it flexing up and down, it moved that much, scary AF, definitely not what I want.
Agreed. Not all carbon bars are created equal. The best feeling bars I’ve ridden so far are the Oneup components and the Enve, especially 31.8mm enve bars.
Had an RM Altitude Rally with RaceFace Next Carbons, best bike ever, never a hand issue. Sold it went to a RM Slayer 770 with RaceFace All. 800 35mm Atlas and had lots of numbness and tingling in my hands, swapped them out fir RF SIX 800 35mm(stiffest carbon RF makes) numbness gone. Say what you want but theres a reason photographers like carbon tripods over Aluminum... vibration reduction.
Interesting sum up. I have a bad wrist and i am searching for the right bar. Thought 31.8 + Alu is going to do the job. Also most of the EWS guys go alloy cause of damping reasons. So i am just confused on what i should do. But interesting that you feel carbon flexes more?! I might test the one up carbon bar.
@@81sante Not flexes (carbon is far stiffer depending on layup) more its damper than Aluminum, so it transfers less vibration meaning less stress on your hands and wrists.
@@DavePreissl thx!!
Where was the ride❓
Above SLC on terror ridge
I watch a lot of your guys videos and being a norther utah native as well i wish you would specify what trails you're riding in the videos. Some look amazing and I want to go try them out...
This one is Terror Ridge. I try to not blow the trails up all over the internet if I can help it.
May I ask, what's the brand/model of the glasses you are wearing?
Smith Wildcats.
I stopped having odd hand/wrist/arm pains when I dumped my aluminum and carbon upgrade handlebars for Titanium. Never going back.
It's like the steering damper on the VW, when it went bad the road imperfections, potholes and even the more pronounced lines in the road were moving the steering wheel around in my hand and one pothole actually jerked the wheel out of my hand and sprained a finger in the process, that's when I decided I was no longer able to ''live with it'' and decided to figure out what went wrong with my steering.
An installed $68 damper later, smooooth as silk again, and though there's obviously a big difference between an hydraulic damper and a flexing piece of metal, the end result is more similar than different and that's the best comparison I can make.
The "flex" of the Ti isn't what I was fearing when everyone told me, "They're going to be flexy!" but instead it was like they became a damper between the trail rocks, gnarr and such - trying to jerk the bars out of my grasp - to absorbing just enough to make it seem like the trail is smoother than it is _without_ negatively effecting the steering, handling or confidence - in fact they've INCREASED my confidence.
Whew@! Sorry about the "Book" - lol
And I guessed right! I figured Green for "Greenhorn" or the aluminum bars a beginner would have, and Orange for "Orange you glad you upgraded to Carbon!" 😉
- I'd love it if you'd do a video now testing Ti bars against Carbon - if you can find any Ti long enough for your Gorilla arms! - lol
Great idea.
Thanks!
Depends on the carbon bar. I've had some that absorb vibrations. My current 35mm Chromag BZA carbon bars are stiff AF. Which is kinda too bad cuz I bought them to go on my rigid in the hopes that they would dampen things a bit.
Thats true. Ive ridden some carbon bars that feel way too stiff. I still think most carbon bars are going to feel a bit better than alloy.
Would you recommend a carbon bar for an enduro bike? Are they “safe enough” on steep rocky terrain, jumps, roots, etc.? I’ve heard they tend to break easier than aluminum bars.
I've had carbon bars on my bike for about 5 years now. No issues at all.
Carbon is actually stronger than aluminum
COMPARE THESE 2 TO TI BARS. I LOVE TI BARS. I ORDERED SOME CARBON BARS TO COMPARE. I HAD AL BARS
I’d love to ride some Ti bars. Tough to find many options with the width and rise I like.
@@bikersedge I GOT THE DOOM LUCKY 880MM KILLER ORDERED SOME DEITY SKYWIRE 25. SEE WHICH I LIKE BETTER
@jack-k6z7n interesting. Any issues with the shims for the clamp diameter?
@@bikersedge NOPE THE BAR IS 22.2 SO U COULD USE A BMX STEM. I HAVE A DEITY 31.8 STEM 35MM REACH AND ZERO PROBLEMS RIDING EVERYDAY FOR THE PAST 5 MONTHS.
Well done...
Hey thanks!
Hey! What are the glasses you were wearing in the intro? They look sick!
An old pair of smith wildcats
Gotcha', thanks! @@bikersedge
What song was that in the intro? 👍
Something royalty free from a stock music site. Not sure on the name.
nice video
What about carbon wheels verses ali
Haven’t done that one yet. Did a wheel showdown with a couple sets of carbon and one aluminum though.
Are carbon handlebars more promp to brake in your hands?
I haven’t had either happen to me. Cant say for sure.
did you have a carbon stem as well when you tested this?
No. The same alloy stem for both bars.
What trail is this?
Terror Ridge
i searched for "Orbea RIse" and ended up here, incredible, yes that is the right bike, but it isn't mentioned anywhere, unless they use speech recognition ?
We did a video about it a couple months ago. It’s a few video back on our channel if you want to check it out.
@@bikersedge oh right, the mid size pickup, i saw it, i'm hungry for more vidéos about it, as i have to wait for 7 months for it to arrive
Did you stick with the same brand of bars?
Yup. Both Renthal Fatbars with identical specs.
What trail is this?! I’m in St. George, UT and this trail would be worth a drive!
Terror Ridge.
Love Terror Ridge!
It’s a good time.
What trail was this?
Looks sick!
Terror Ridge
This is a great comparison for renthal. Which are some of the stiffest carbon bars out there. I would suggest trying raceface or enve. This would provide a better comparison of materials.
Unfortunately you can't compare carbon and alloy with Enve. They don't make an alloy bar. It was surprisingly tricky to find two bars with the same dimensions and different materials.
0:10 The answer is *_Ti_* !
Blingy
@@bikersedge Smooth, absorbent, strong, reliable, light.
Cool
Thanks!
Anti weight wini lol, Hey which ebike are you on?
I’m on a mission to get rid of weight weenieism. This is the orbea rise.
Just snap my carbon bars last weekend, lucky for me I was going uphill... never trust them again
Oh jeez. That’s spooky. It’s never happened to me but I’ve seen it happen before. That’s one in the pros column on alloy bars.
I snapped my carbon bars last summer when I went over them casing a lame jump. I've also traded down to aluminium
You should do the same with lock on vs push on grips. You'll likely ditch lock on grips forever.
Interesting. I’ll have to try that one.
I used to love the Ritchey foam grips! Can't find em anymore though... and then I just found them on Amazon. Man I hate Amazon
Love these videos... need MOAR! What bike were you on, not your Spur? Would Spur suspension handle that chatter well? Spur X01 comes with One Up carbon bars so One Up bar vs Renthal... which one is better for vertical compliance?
Hey thanks! Now that the weather is good and trails are opening up around the shop, we should be back to our weekly schedule - hopefully. I was on my Orbea Rise. The eBike makes these back to back tests easier. Less fatigue to factor in. I'd need to ride those Oneup bars back to back with another carbon bar, but I did like them a lot on my Spur.
Rad!
Thanks!
Haha the carrot burps!
Toddler food is not good for bike rides.
Where are you?? I'm going to venture a guess and say Boise foothills...
SLC foothills.
❤🎉 est thanks
See what snap first you'll soon know. I went back to the alloy after the carbon snapped on flat ground trust in then and all carbon bars has gone for now
Luckily I’ve been able to avoid the snapped carbon bar over the years. I tend to swap mine out every two years or so though.
Carbon bars cost like three times the price, just not worth it unless you want to burn money.
Man I have to disagree. It’s on the top of my upgrades list. The difference it makes on the hands is huge.
Aluminum renthal 31.8mm there is no other bar
I'm with you on the 31.8 thing but I think I'll stick to carbon.
I feel like...wrapping in tape ain't how you do a test lol.
Why is that? It was the easiest way to do a blind test.
DUH! The more "tests" you do in a day - the tired you will get- thus feeling more input.
Except the second bars felt better. So….
Thanks for the video! I like to think that, if you turned out to be a complete doof (
If I got it wrong I would have hid in shame for at least the next year. I have seen carbon bars snap before too - wasn't pretty.
I'm at 7:33 and think the 2nd bar is carbon. I'll comment again when I've finished the video.
Interesting. Cool video!
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
That is a ist world discussion. Ha
Push on grips, problem solved
But what about push on grips with carbon bars? Ultimate squish.
yayyyy I'm on 35mm aluminium bars
Ouch
@@bikersedge ay don't be so dramatic - also - why didn't anybody say that before I bought them? :(