How "Cultural Marxism" became the Far-Right's Scapegoat
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2018
- A specter is haunting RUclips - the specter of Cultural Marxism!
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"Cultural marxism is when you put women and trans people in VIDEOGAMES"- Karl "cultural" Marx
Haven't you read "Das Kapital"? It is one of the central themes: flood the video games with trans and gay people, more female and black heros, especially for roles that should be held by white men!! It is right there in the book!! :-P
"But remember to do it in like a really forced way. It has to be forced, you know, otherwise it's not proper Marxism"
Dorian Ertymexx nah, wrong person. Antonio Gramsci is the person more tied to cultural marxism.
Dorian Ertymexx so only white men should be in works of fiction???
@@ezekieltete6584 what? How did you come to that conclusion?
Alt right: "Cultural Marxism is political correctness"
Marx himself: "Ruthlessly criticise all that exists"
Nice.
"Ruthlessly criticise all that exists", I can relate to this. Reading marxist literature gave me a perspective of ruthless critique, the funny thing is that, in time this also caused me to abandon most of marxist thinking and marxist/communist political circles.
Marx was a wannabe.
@@johnnyspin6346 Which is even more batshit.
**Except for Marx and his ideas. Those are off-limits and anyone who does should be denounced as an apparatchik of the bourgeoisie.
"Why does all pop music sound the same?" Because all these acts are competing with each other and aren't about to let a single opportunity to co-opt something lucrative pass them by. So, yes, it is all about capitalism, not Marxism.
And honestly, even that is such a mischaracterization. We live in a period of UNPARALLELED era of music consumption. There has never been a time where you could hear more unique, garage or bedroom made music instantly. There’s never been a time where kids can record themselves on their phone and upload it, for free, onto a sharing platform accessible by literally billions of people. It’s just silly, PJW is a moron lmfao
Also, music follows trends. Complaining about all music sounding the same is like complaining about all fashion looking the same. Ever heard traditional folk music? It sounds even more the same, the "you snort k and I snort k honey" skit from South Park being a perfect demonstration. Ever listened to 30s and 40s radio recordings? It's insane how the same everything sounds. The 21st century is the best time to be alive for listening to music, almost all music that's ever been recorded is instantly accessible. Radio has evolved to an inoffensive, one size fits all playlist to have on in the background, because everyone gets their own taste in music from Spotify now, the need to captivate the audience has disappeared, and that's always been the point of late 20th century music media, perfectly examplified through the extravagent music videos of Michael Jackson, back then people sat down in front of the television to actively consume music, and they had to consume whatever was fed to them, instead of what we have now. You'd have to be a total dork to complain about music in this age.
Trenton Firster Nah, The Jews have meetings to make people think Five Finger Death Punch is garbage. All the girls in school listen to Justin Bieber, and don’t like the fact I wear the same Pink Floyd t-shirt everyday, and have greasy hair.
ReddoFreddo
You do a line and I’ll do a line, baaabe.
You do a line and I’ll do a line
Smoke crack til the mornin’ time
You do a line and I’ll do a line, honey baaby girl
"Why are all songs the same?" Because it's more profitable, same reason why most movies are very simplistic. Complex films like Godfather and Parasite will never be as popular as simplistic films like Transformers and Star Wars
The funny thing about Paul's view on the degradation of music is that the dumbed down, mass produced nature of modern pop is actually symptomatic of Capitalism; as the music is crafted for profit more often than artistic merit.
_say it again for the people in the back_
also the category of pop music being short for popular music, its a specific style of music that gets lumped together by the record companies. Branch out past pop music and you find some very talented very different groups out there
You have also summarized Christian music and movies in a single sentence.
i always try toi explain this to people when i tell them i dont like pop music. glad to know im not alone
This is so true it hurts. As a musician I have noticed this since 13 years old. Crazy actually when you think about it.
Let's not forget that Marxism is a Western ideology.
arsenelupin123 yes, don't get why people forget that's Marxism was invented in Germany and Britain by people of the western intellectual tradition
One can not forget something that never existed.
People tend respond to that by claiming Marxism is a Jewish conspiracy, thus not western. I don't know what the people who subscribe to the theory who don't hate Jews say.
These are not my opinions, I'm just repeating what these kind of people tend to say.
arsenelupin123 More specifically, Marxism is a product of Judaeo-Christianity. It is a broadly Christian heresy. Its stages of history, for example, are an almost direct copy of Christian narrative. The ability of intellectuals to not spot this is astounding. Marxism survives precisely because it is stupid and stupidity of sorts is often sought by intellectuals. In order to show they are better thinkers, they complicate matters and import unnecessary complex terms. In a toxic mix, this can lead to pseudo-religious crusade which masks deep selfishness, hatred for difference and hatred of non-conformity. Marxism is a perfect mix of toxic influences. Every idea in Marxism has been falsified - from the agricultural revolution creating what later became states to the laughable labour theory of value - and yet it survives. Massive state subsidies, particularly in education, have given this most cancerous ideology in human history a boost. To survive, the west needs to strictly control funding of universities and stop state control of education. Sack all experts in education and related fields and see the parasites fund themselves and then die out. Parents, given the choice, would reject toxic theories. You have to be educated to believe something so manifestly absurd and derivative.
+arsenelupin123 Exactly. So is capitalism. So is Western law.
"Postmodernism is when the culture is bad, and it's more postmodernism the more bad it is, and if it is really bad, that's Cultural Marxism."
- Marx
Some people here still think that Cultural Marxism was created by Marx himself?! 😂 Wikipedia shouldn't have edited the page about it, they created a lot of ignorant people. But I guess, this was their goal...
Who was Herbert Marcuse?
"Where is the evidence?"
Exactly what Zizek asked Peterson. Good call
I asked that to my right wing friend and he said "it's a passive ideology, it's a way of thinking..."
Yeah so convenient, danger is always around but you can't exactly point it... (so you need to kill of the jews) and then they say "left is all about feelings." Lol
@@johnconstantine592 Even if that statement were accurate. What's so bad about having feelings? I have BPD, so i know what i'm talking about.
@@Donnerbalken28 There is a solid line of argument to say that emotions should not govern political decision making. If your suffering from BPD, you know how flawed emotions can be and how easily it can be manipulated. Emotions of groups of people need of course to be considered, but I like my politics to be grounded in facts and real world issues rather than vague feelings.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with having and showing emotions at all. It just becomes problematic when it gets to decisions effecting all of us (or at least a sizable part of our societies).
Exedo don’t you think it’s a bit naive to believe that politics can’t/shouldn’t involve feelings? I mean if we discuss suicide prevention we need to address what the at-risk people are feeling. And the invasion of the Middle East was all about feeling we’re safe from foreign threats (not defending it, but even though every expert said “this won’t help” we still invaded Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Like it’s impossible to not consider). Or the Boeing Max 8 scandal, 148 people died and they continued to fly the airplanes because they prioritized profits and the FAA was like “okay cool” because the costs of grounding all these airplanes was too much, but there’s no facts that determines if it was worth it or not it was based on feelings.
kaingates of course emotions are going to exist but I think Exedo’s point is that we should try to avoid emotional arguments as drivers and use more logical arguments- primarily because whilst emotions are useful they are also manipulative, I doubt a state like Nazi germany would exist if emotions like fear anger and hate didn’t exist.
Emotions for connection, reflection and empathy are useful and good, but we shouldn’t allow our arguements to amount to “I just felt like it” which is effectively this cultural Marxism conspiracy summarised
I'm a philosophy student and believe me, you've debunked "cultural marxism" better than most of my collegues ever could, great video
Beatles Foxman The whole problem with Marxism is its lack of foundation, nothing can ever be justified therefor anything can be justified. The intertwined relationship with Darwinism and dedication to physicalism leaves them in a regress reality. The metaphysical interpretation is a spectrum. This only accounts to the level of objectivity from absolutism to fallabalism, if you fall to the right. If you fall to the left of the center, it’s all subjective. The question of whether reality is objective or subjective is black and white. The ethical, spiritual, and therefor political implications, is why no matter what Marxist proclaim, it will lead to demise.
@@SleezDeez that sure was a lot of words. Shame that they don't form a coherent meaning.
Ryan Kruse Coherentism is circular logic
Nicht von dieser Welt Marx lives in contradiction and embraces it. They have no need for epistemology and focus solely on metaphysics. Read some books, like the metaphysical foundations of modern science.
Nicht von dieser Welt lmao dude the universe can only pity you
“They should just call them the bad guys” hahahahahahahha
Also "postmodern neomarxist" is an oxymoron considering that Marxism is a philosophy developed during the modernist era, following modernist principles. Postmodernism is about re evaluating the modernist frameworks and often discarding them. So like, which is it bud? Modern or post modern. The evidence says modern
You maybe should think about the part "neo" in the word "neomarxist". Usually it means that we speak about a rebirth of some movement in a new form (for example, adapted to "postmodernist" era). "Neoliberal" or "neoconservative" are such examples too.
That's kind of reductionist. Marxism presupposes certain basic principles that make up an all-encompassing worldview i.e. that history is made up of economic stages progressing towards a certain goal (communism of some kind). This kind of all-encompassing worldview (aka a metanarrative) is one of the primary things that postmodernists reject, making postmodernism and Marxism basically incompatible.
@@samuelking5474 that was what I was saying -_-
@@fangsabre Yeah, I got what you were talking about. I just think that talking about modernist philosophy doesn’t properly explain the difference to people who don’t understand philosophy. Also, Marxism has developed beyond the era it started in. Sorry if it came off as an “umm akshully” comment.
People who love contradictions can find a way to make postmodern neomarxism work. Kimberle Crenshaw, the main founder of Critical Race Theory, talks about fusing the two in her famous essay Mapping the Margins. Two other founders of critical race theory wrote in the book “Critical Race Theory: an Introduction”, that Foucault, Derrida, and Gramsci are core to their thinking. Two major postmodernists and the godfather of cultural Marxism.
My older brother is really into stefan molyneux so i listened to a few podcasts of his went back to my brother and was like Boi you fell for this shit??
How did your brother react? I've got family of my own who are into some stupid bs.
Don’t try to belittle him, that will only drive further into Molyneux’s wing.
@@christopherjustice6411 yea, that's good advice even though it can be hard not to. Still people do tend to get quite defensive about their beliefs.
@_jeff _ can't disagree there. People are very difficult to convince that they're wrong when they're right.
@_jeff _ "Cultural narrative" okay, guy
"Some guys in Germany writing about how much they hate shitty boy bands"
If I ever teach a class on the Frankfurt school, this is how I'm introducing them :)
Adorno hated Jazz, theres a nice lindsey ellis video where she quotes some stuff. Fucking awsome
@@DerAykac Jazz is like "poetry" that is deliberately obscure.
Cultural Marxism is everything I don't like.
--- Jordan Peterson
"Socialism is when Vuvuzuela" - Jordan Peter's son
@Gachibass Commentator this but unironically
@Gachibass Commentator Yep. And the hostile primates in "2001: A Space Odyssey" were the first cultural warriors against the spread of the common good.
This is pretty much Red Scare 3.0.
Anthony Joseph Yes, it's totally the fault of jews, not stalin
We never left the first red scare
Yo, thanks for hosting the Bayo OST
@@jackgarcia5926 My pleasure.
Here's a conspiracy theory for the righties - isn't it a strange coincidence that you have been manipulated by Matrix and other movies to call your awakening the RED pill?? *hums the soviet anthem* 3:)
The biggest problem with equating Marxism and Postmodernism, is that Postmodernism was developed specifically as a way to criticise 'structuralist' theories, specifically including Marxism. They have very little at all in common and have always existed in opposition to eachother. Saying 'Postmodern Marsixm' is sort of like saying 'Right-wing leftism'. Ironically, the only people capable of concocting such a ridiculously contrived idea would be Postmodernists themselves, who sometimes like to entertain contradictory positions in order to 'deconstruct metanarratives'. Despite ostensibly slating Postmodernism every chance he gets, Jordan Peterson sounds an awful lot like a Postmodernist at times.
He said that facts aren't necessarily true, makes truth dependent on survival of narratives, drones on endlessly about myths making vague suggestions rather than laying out mechanisms. "Who dares to say he believes in God?"
Yeah he fits perfectly with postmodernists.
They keep using that word. I don't think they know what it means.
Stevey2578 I'm pretty left leaned to socialism, and I don't know what it means.
As you wiiiiiish!
They do not care at all, though.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Says the guy who calls everyone a nahtzeee
For the record, I dont think JP or Armoured Skeptic are far-right. That doesnt make "Cultural Marxism" any less of a far-right scapegoat though. I should have said this in the video.
What would you describe them as?
Intrestingly enough, Innuendo Studios mentions "Cultural Marxism" as being a "box" as part of right-wing rhetoric. He mentions that right-wing rhetoric often uses "boxes" like the cultural marxism box, reverse racism box. Even words like "cuck", "beta", or "soy" are short hands for the "failed masculinity box". (he goes over it in detail in this video: ruclips.net/video/wmVkJvieaOA/видео.html )
BTW, have you seen his alt-right playbook series? if not, i recommend watching it to understand right-wing rhetoric / debate tactics: Links here:
ruclips.net/video/4xGawJIseNY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/CaPgDQkmqqM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/wmVkJvieaOA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/j6GFKo6_sOU/видео.html
Jack Ban I'm an ethnocentrist who is happy to defend that, my basic claim is "human subspecies evolved in a geographically isolated fashion. This leads population groups to have different rates of expression for certain traits, and these traits map on to political temperament somewhere. As a result, we should be analyzing political phenomenon through this lens in my opinion"
It isn't a 'scapegoat.' Are you really that naive? Buzzfeed, Jezebel, Feministing, etc are examples of this. Get a clue, guy.
Esteban Rincon Did you even watch the video, you fucking moron? Read a fucking book: www.sup.org/books/title/?id=1103
My favorite thing is when they blame "cultural marxism" for things that are obviously caused by capitalism.
My favorite thing is, when anti-capitalists confuse capitalism with statism.
@@darthhatespeech5329 Ah yes, because your government making its decisions based on what will further capitalism's inherent need for inequality is different from other types of oppressive systems in that at least there's a tiny slim chance you'll escape your oppression. How fucking magnanimous.
Seriously, you couldn't have bashed your skull any further into that wall.
@@darthhatespeech5329 Then you will love folks confusing statism or authoritarianism with anything on the socialist side.
@@SirBojo4
Indeed.
I think politics are splitting split hairs
You're criminally underrated. You're more nuanced and critical than most other political RUclipsrs that I follow.
yeah, this was a real gem in my recommended videos today. i get so much alt-lite bullshit in there these days.
steve bannon must have impulsionated the right wing youtubers with sponsors
@@williehawaii9967 ResidentSleeper
@@williehawaii9967 no that's me
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Here in hungary, instead of cultural marxism, people just yell "george soros plan".
Hungary is special. What with Orban being a modern day Horthy minus the military service part.
Only in Hungary, even in the US, George Soros is demonized by right wingers, which is very strange except when you remember that he's also Jewish and that it's antisemitic people who want to hate on Jewish people without being seen as anti-Semitic.
@@tylersmith3139 i'm just saying that hungarians rarely use the term "cultural marxism", contrary to americans who all the time use it.
@@1homelander179 In the US right-wing extremists use "cultural Marxism". It doesn't have to make sense, because in the US, from earliest years, we are taught a series of dirty words to be feared above all else:
Communist. Marxist. Socialist. Liberal. So later in life those are used by right-wing extremists as cudgels to blanket discredit anything they don't like, such as actual social and economic progress. Such as education. Such as intellectuality.
They are the ultimate "intellectual" barbarians.
@@tylersmith3139 I think the George Soros obsession was started by Russia. They hate him because he helped Eastern Europe break free from Russia. Funny how right wingers hate him when he helped defeat the communist ussr.
You're a much needed voice in the current political discourse. Thank you.
Hans S Would you like your antipsychotics now or later? Seriously, dude, is that what the voices in your head tell you?
Hans S *I know this is a stupid question, but do you have any reliable evidence that anything you're saying is true?
Hans S Oh, no! You're a conspiracy psycho! Poor thing!
Hans S I'm still waiting for that evidence. Or did you just make this shit up on the spot? And what you're saying about everyone else is only true of you. Either way you slice it, you're just an idiot with an opinion.
Hans S
Those were some of the most boring comebacks I've read this week.
Hans, what country are you from? I sure hope it isn't the one I think it is.
I do love the "West is on the verge of collapse" alarmists. When I look around I get the sense that collapse doesn't mean what they think it means. Also Marxism (and I am not a Marxist) is a product of the West? Marx's ideas are born in a reflection on and critique of the Capitalism he witnessed in England and Germany, and he uses 'Western' philosophy to ground his reflections and critique. To easily people forget that one of the strengths of the "West" (which is not a monolith) is precisely its capacity for a democratic self-reflection and self-critique which allows for (relatively) peaceful progress and shifts in ideals.
His critiques were great, and for most of Communisms existence, people living in Communist countries had better lives than those living in their Capitalist counterparts, despite the infinite embargoes, military pressure, and near constant invasions to stomp out these revolutions.
Unfortunately for Marx, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, like all other tyrant strongmen, created a lot of death because of their hubris and painted Communism a terrible picture.
For them the end of western civilization is calling trans people by their preferred pronouns and allowing premarital sex.
Why do you put it in quote marks?
@@rickrolld1367
If an idea fails in practice, its theory cannot be correct. How many more attempts will it take before even the last socialist realizes that the people are not the problem?
They love to refectory the “fall” of Rome as of it literally happened overnight
That Sargon/Tim the Toolman pic is just sublime.
I really love how you can talk about weird far right memes and then go “hey check out this quote that’s basically what the current meme is. Where is it from? Oh, mein kampf.” Like it’s literally all the same junk. What a bunch of far right nonsense. Thanks for the good video man.
Funny jojo?
I legitimately thought the Mein Kampf one was Dennis Prager, and he's a Jew.
Yes, that's also called well poisoning.
Imagine the Nazis ate apples. So eating apples is clearly a nazi activity.
Don't be a Nazi. Don't eat apples.
@@darthhatespeech5329 okay darth hatespeech
@@crazwizardlizard okay ZWar101
Sometimes it makes me wonder is this another projection from the extremist right? I am from India and you can find enough extremists with similar talking points in the extremist factions who use these against the university professors and such.
same in the Netherlands, they're calling for investigations into supposed indoctrination by 'extreme-left' professors at university. it's a straw man, total bullshit, but they're having a great time fighting their imaginary enemy.
@@soumilroy ikr. Say whatever you want about Congress atleast you could openly express your views under them without fear or being attacked.
I already regret scrolling down.
As a wise man who destroyed lobster boy in a debate once said: "WHERE ARE THE MARXISTS!?!"
@J J I'd be shocked if 5% of those people could *name* Marx.
@J J "Organizers" lmao one measly person does not equal an entire movement of protests across a country of 333 million and you know it, I know it, *everyone* knows it.
And that Veritas video shows, again, ONE guy! Why do cons think that just finding one idiot think that means the entire group is exactly the same? Do I get to say that all white people are racist now because I found a video of one racist douche? No!
@J J
I like Marxism and I also like Bernie Sanders.
However, Bernie Sanders is not a Marxist.
Lobster boy is our king, lobster boy is our life
@@radiorender7163 let me guess loobster boy saved your life
I’ve had the same thoughts on cultural Marxism. I’ve pretty much moved completely away from the right wing of the internet due to it as it shows that have nothing useful to say other than repeating meaningless jargon phrases.
Indeed.
@@Ninjaananas "...meaningless Sargon phrases."
@@DerAykac
"That go one for at least half an hour."
Nice pun, though.
Its true, once the right starts using a word, that word loses all meaning.
@@niko9603
That's because you cannot be more linguistically incompetent than a right-wing. They talk completly affectually.
"With Paul Joseph Watson, I have know idea what he actually believes since he's obviously just a conman.". Probably the best and most concise description of Paul Joseph Watson ever. Just discovered your channel, and it's pretty damn good.
Ive thought this about PJW since I first saw a video of his in about 2012 or 2013, yeah this is a great point that OP brought up.
PJW goes way back in "Alex Jonesville massacree Looney-Tunes Texas" the first I ever heard of Watson Brothers was Years and Years ago, when I still lived in Austin and was a friend of 'Brave New Books" store. Paul Watson and his brother were British 9-11 Theorists...?? Made some Idependant Movies? But he is like Alex Jones gay lover. LOL not serious...but funny, what a UGLY bloke he is...think about that FACE on ALEX'S Weiner!!!!!
nowadays all leftists are retarded . as for white leftists, they all are self-hating turkeys voting for christmas
they are anti-white, anti-christian
and, of course, pro-gay, pro-islamic
pushing islamic invasion in their own countries
+severeality
How can someone be pro gay and pro islam at the same time?
well it`s a very important question))) but they actually are. coz they are fucking retarded humanitarians and always use to "fight for the rights of opressed minorities".
I was accused of being a "cultural marxist" just because i said that Jesus Christ is a literary figure...and i am certainly not a marxist...
WELP YAR NOW WELCOME TO THE TEAM BUDDY There are no neutrals in the world of the Right-leaning.
El Ale oh God, you didnt understand anything, most cultural Marxists do not identify themselves as Marxists and are not even true marxists ! And btw you know you were going to trigger people with this comment and if you think it's true,you'll have a problem because you'll not be able to prove that half of the historical characters from Egypt to the Middle Ages really existed, you know you're biased, even atheists know he was real.
As a huge Ancient Egypt enthusiast, I'm perfectly willing to admit that many of the tales of various prominent figures are likely literary figures to an extent. Cultures tell stories about themselves, I doubt the Egyptians were any different. Just like early Christians.
Eymeric D'Usall
So a bit like a lot of racist people on the right deny being racist or don't even realize they're helping along racism? lol
Well put. Just because a person doesn't actively label themselves, doesn't mean the shoe doesn't fit.
The saddest thing about cultural conservatives is that much of what they attribute to alien influences is a result of capitalism, which they usually defend. Reactionaries who are anti capitalist make a lot more sense generally.
@Joe Average look up who runs these
@BRITO god you morons... many jews are capitalists because the church did not allow Usury(lending money with interest) and since Jews were barred from many jobs they came to occupy these occupations which just so happened to be very important to the development of capitalism later on
@@max0304 what ?
Most reactionaries are anti-capitalists
@@max0304If by blaming Jews. You are a loser.
When I heard about this video in my recommendeds section, my immediate knee-jerk reaction was to write a snarky comment, down vote, and never look upon this channel again, but I fancy myself a bit of a scholar, and opted to listen to it to the very end. I am glad that I did. Arrows makes a rather good point. It might be a bit of false equivocation, but those quotes do sound like something that various other youtubers might agree with if they did not know the authors. And for as many times as the fall of Western Civilization and the death of millions has been foretold, from migrants to porn rotting your brain to the government taking control of your thoughts, I have noticed that the prophecized end times have yet to fall from the sky. In fact it might be kind of dangerous to get swept up in that kind of hysteria, lest we lose the greatest asset to the scholarly mind: impartiality. So, for making me rethink my stance on things, Three Arrows, I concede the point. Take my upvote.
Thank you for taking the time to listen and putting the effort in to keep an open mind. I feel encouraged to know that there are people out there, and in the RUclips comments section, who are willing to do sure things.
>take my upvote
Absolute cringe
@@juneauxmader9893 Yes they have a like/dislike system for comments on reddit, which ia what this guy is referring to.
@@juneauxmader9893 It's a 4chan joke about a reddit joke. And since you replied with a kind of youtube joke it is now a youtube joke about a 4chan joke about a reddit joke.
>my immediate knee-jerk reaction was to...
>I fancy myself a bit of a scholar
Broke: Marxism
Woke: Cultural Marxism
Bespoke: Cultural Bakuninism!
Ascended: Cultural Commulism
Transdimensional/Lovecraftian: CULTURAL POSADISM
@@sindurgoku8022 bukharin was a cool fella, just saying
@@sindurgoku8022 Every day is a school day. You just made mine. =)
@@dylanchouinard6141 Transcended: Cultural Sankarism
I've already seen several responses to the video by the right and I must say, each of them was pretty weak. None of them can debunk your claims, instead they say it wasn't the Frankfurt School, but Karl Marx who laid down the appropriate framework for cultural Marxism, none of them provided any evidence. Most accused you of using guilt by association (mostly by building strawmen). Some also supplied graphs on the rise of leftist thoughts (including Marxist ones) in academia. While that may be true, it's still no proof of a conspiracy going on.
What it boils down to is, that for the far-right, cultural Marxism is another work for 'leftism' and 'everything I don't like'. But of course, they're not going to be so clear about it.
who gives a shit who started it. its here. if i get wrong what culture invented the wheel does it mean I can't teach someone how to fucking drive a car? all that matters is it is here and destroying us.
@@mayainverse9429 exactly, capitalism is destroying us.
What I love most is Marx view on the nuclear family and why it should be destroyed. All the feminist followed it and now there are huge numbers of women in their 30s and 40s alone, poor, and crying themselves to sleep. But then telling younger women we need communism. It’s hilarious. Mgtow is the result of Marx. No more family. No more community. Use women don’t marry them
Jean Sanchez prove me wrong
@@williehawaii9967 Nobody owe you anything, debunking your bullshit would take so much time and you're definitely from bad faith. You're also a misogynistic piece of shit.
I liked armored skeptic when he talked about flat earthers. After that it went south.
ya too bad.
he use to be so good.
From Armored Skeptic to Armored Septic.
TBF Most of us followed the same progression. Become atheist. Laugh at creationists. Want to curb corporate power, but think political correctness is taking things too far. Because your only exposure to feminism is cringe comps. Learn how insane rape culture and police brutality actually are. Learn that many progressives are normal people challenging a ridiculous system. Stop being a centrist dipshit.
@@wearealreadydeadfam8214 Damn dude, you described it perfectly.
Yall just don't like armored skeptic because he shits on your sjw bs
Or as Zizek put it: "Where are these postmodern Neomarxists?"
*sniff*
Hahaha, I guessed it! I was about to say "probably Jordan Peterson", and then I thought "actually, this is the last one, it's probably taken directly from Mein Kampf" as an example of how statements are valued differently depending on who says them. Most people would probably distance themselves from this statement if they knew who wrote it, but if Jordan Peterson had said it, they'd likely be much more accepting of it. Rational skeptics indeed...
Someone with a background in philosophy here. You're partially right about the misrepresentation, in particular your point that the alt-right rhetoric mashes (neo)marxism, postmodernism, nihilism, and critical theory, even though these denote very distinct bodies of work and movements, often mutually exclusive ones. I also like how you noticed that pjw actuality tries to apply a bastardized form of critical theory himself.
As for the specifics, well there's a lot a lot more to be said but a youtube comment can't really cover it. I'm thinking about starting a video series of my own, comparing some alt-right definitions and analyses of things like postmodernism, the frankfurter schule and neomarxism in general against *ahem* the actual historical and philosophical developments, where they came from, what they did and what influence they've actually had on today's political discourse.
If I ever get round to doing that, I'll make sure to send you a heads up.
Did you ever make that video?
I'm so happy that I got the Habermas and the Mein Kamp quotes right! Also, as a Marxist, I found this video very good in briefly explaining differences between the schools and views. Many of my colegues in economics or philosophy wouldn't even get close to this.
Philosophy student at the Geothe University (in Frankfurt) here, who is interested in the Frankfurt School (and has recently written a final on Habermaß). Basically the Frankfurt School developed critical theory as a tool to analyse our current (CAPITALIST) society. In their analysis they intially used many of the central assumptions of Marxism, but abandoned or fundamentally changed many of them later on. I can't and won't give a definitive judgement upon the moral beliefs of Adorno, Horkheimer or Habermaß since I'm only really starting out my journey into their teachings. But when I view the world through the lense of critical theory there is only one moral belief that could be interpreted as """communist""": That the superiority of the wealthy is not inherently good, but must justify itself through its contribution to the common good.
And to be honest I don't think that position is either radical nor unreasonable.
Don't you think Adorno/horkheimer are a bit condencending towards the people exploited under capital?
In my opinion, the classical marxist conflict worldview is much more rooted in reality than the idea that conflicts of interest are passible to resolution, as Habermas/Rawls want. I cannot see where on earth a "Kantian Republicanism" can ever be a reality when all you have is i-rationality and non-discoursive political fights... Eliminating conflict is a highway ticket to fascism, as we have seen (the great party of the centre is a dangerous dream). Not to mention rational agreements can only be possible inside institutions, never between real popular upheavels and the State (legal products need institutional routes such as syndicalism for instance). Even think about the liquid modernity presented by Zygmunt Bauman and the impossibility of discoursive agreements between closed communities (Lyotard) in today's digital framework and social medias. Without conflict, democracies are doomed to fail or give up to the populist agenda, not to mention the fascists.
What is the “common good” and how does one quantify it? This is all extremely vague and easy to exploit from whichever angle one wishes to do so. I’m sure if you asked a billionaire if his existence and material wealth and the power and superiority it affords him was justified and served the common good, he’d be able to hold an entire lecture on how it is and how it does. If you asked a homeless person if a billionaire’s existence was justified you would get a very different answer and idea of what “contributing” to the common good is.
@@DM-nw5lu
How about looking at the facts instead?
The first time I heard the term "cultural marxist" I had an intuitive sense that it was probably code for Jews, thanks for giving the deep dive on why. :)
As a critic of Marxism and post-modernism, I don't really see anything wrong with it. The fact that people in the communist movement and the Frankfurt school were Jewish is completely irrelevant to me. If you hear someone use the term cutural Marxism I'd be careful to not just assume anti-semitism o this ohrase alone, I belive it's thr intention of the video creator to muddy the waters. Far-right Nazi's use the word, there for anyone who uses it is a Nazi!
@ A piece of white... No one is saying that Jews never did anything wrong. But to blame them for everything that is wrong in your life is insane. It's always the jews or the muslim or the blacks. When does that accountability that you guys love to talk about comes in?
Hans S let them virtue signal
A piece of fucking sliced white bread!
And white people can never do anything wrong to any other race according to you guys. So shut the fuck up?
Great video. Honestly the right's use of buzzwords and contempt in place of evidence based reasoned arguments speaks volumes to their intellectual honesty. "Just throw a bunch of labels at them! They're The Bad People!"
inb4 you get a reply that says "but the left does it too! they call people racist without restraint!" as if the two are comparable, being watchful of the influence of racism is not the same as being watchful of a conspiracy theory. ask a leftist and they'll describe racism through subconscious biases and class systems, and not a dark school of Jews
VeryTizzyIzzy the left do the exact same thing...
Airoehead rascism isn't the problem for America. It's women.
VeryTizzyIzzy
You must be in a safe space echo chamber.
I agree and to add to that what I think is important to point out is that no one is immune to lumping all the people they disagree with in the "bad guys category". For instance, I may disagree with them, but I do try to distinguish far-right ideologies and keep them seperate. Conservatism, imperialism, militarism, white-nationalism, neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, anti-immigration, anti-communism, capitalism, neo-liberalism, libertarianism. These all have a thumbs-down in my book, but I try to keep my book organized.
The history buff in me is very happy watching and listening to you -- especially when you understand that history happens right now.
The “skeptic” RUclips community took me out of theism, but I’ll never understand how they weren’t able to apply that same skepticism to politics like they did religion. I followed facts and evidence, and it led me further left, not into what is essentially fascism
Everything is fascism if you're that far left
@@jaredk6591 do you understand the irony of what you just said? Telling someone they generalize about the other side of the political spectrum while generalizing about the other side of the political spectrum.
*chefskiss*
just cause they’re atheist doesn’t stop someone from being racist unfortunately
people like who you’re talking about was one of the few reasons I was afraid to question my religion because of those assholes
People who are experts or well-studied on one subject often assume this makes them qualified to speak on other topics that they know nothing about. It's an easy trap to fall into if you lack any self-awareness or ability to take criticism
It’s because it was never about deconstructing arguments, but about dunking on those fools and owning newbs
Can one really be a true nihilist and Marxist at the same time? Surely if you believed existence was utterly pointless and valueless, you wouldn't really concern yourself with the failings of Capitalism and the antagonistic role it plays in democracy.
Gavin Erickson that’s what i’ve been saying forever. existential nihilism cannot combine itself with marxism on a philosophical basis.
@@cito2820 Wrong, Nihilism in its modern use typically refers to rejection of any OBJECTIVE value in anything (in this case existence). You can still go "fuck it" and set some assumptions, its similar to how even if you believe in skepticism (the impossibility of absolute knowledge) you can still debate under the assumptions that, for example, the world is as we perceive it.
If you (for example) set the assumption that humans are equal, valuable and that human flourishing is inherently good, you can still adhere to the political ideology that you think achieves that.
-A Postmarxist/Nihilist
Agreed. At most, one could be an Existentialist and a Marxist, but I could be wrong.
@@ComradeLavender I believe you are wrong, since existentialism is a label with some implications, that don`t have to apply to a marxist. Nihilism is the rejection of any type of objective value to existence (at least in the existential sense), and nothing more.
+Brisca I dont believe thats accurate. I have always interpreted Nihilism as the annihilation of all values, 'we have been unchained from the sun, whither are we falling now'. In a meta-ethical sense nihilist aligns strongly with error theorists who argue basically that all claims to an ethical ground are an error. If you mean, by way of rejecting all 'objective values', we can still have 'subjective' values what ground do they rest on? Our choice? But our historicity, our personal experiences, determines who we are. So the 'value' being asserted 'subjectively' is vapid at best or self delusion at worst! I am unsure how you resolve this, or where I am mistaken.
I've only seen a couple of your videos so far since I just discovered you today. And although I may not agree with you on everything I certainly appreciate your approach and so far it seems like you do good intellectually honest stuff
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Nuance Bro This guy is not intellectually honest.
@Ray Polanco he did say so far so there is room for error, but if hes not could you point out something that's not intellectually honest then?
@PHOBOS "he did say so far" I have no idea what you mean?
nuance bro said *"so far it seems like..."* meaning nuance bro included room for error he also says *"'I've only seen a couple of your videos"*
if you think three arrows is being intellectually dishonest feel free to point it out
personally i do have some issue some of his videos, the anti-gun one coming to mind, particularly where he talks about how Germany didn't disarm everyone only the intended victims (splitting that hair pretty thin if you ask me) that would be like me say no officer i didn't kill the guy i only took the parachute out before he we went skydiving.
and the idea that 'you cant stand up to a tyrant so don't even try' is stupid, he is right about one part though governments tend to divide people so they can exploit them so it's important to stand up against tyranny even if you don't agree with the person that the tyrant is using their power against. Martin Niemöller's poem "First they came for the Socialists..." illustrates this pretty well
I wanna quote something from Adorno, in regards to ”popular music”, or ”light music” as he called it:
[...] their primitivism is not that of the underdeveloped, but that of the forcibly retarded. [...] Regressive, too, is the role which contemporary mass music plays in the psychological household of the victims. They are not merely turned away from more important music, but they are confirmed in their neurotic stupidity, quite irrespective of how their musical capacities are related to the specific musical culture of earlier social phases. The assent to hit songs and debased cultural goods belongs to the same complex of symptoms as do those faces of which no longer knows whether the film has alienated them from reality or reality has alienated them from the film, as they wrench open a great formless mouth with shining teeth in a voracious smile, while the tired eyes are wretched and lost above. Together with sport and film, mass music and the new listening help to make escape from the whole infantile milieu impossible"
- Theodor Adorno, "On the Fetish Character in Music and the Regression of Listening", in "The Culture Industry", published by Routledge and edited by J.M. Bernstein, New York, 2001, pages 46 to 47.
So yeah, so much for the cultural Marxists that will destroy Western values with pop music. I wish these dumb conservative YT propagandists will actually fucking read the books and authors that they reference and blame for the "destruction" of what they dearly hold on to. And not only the YT propagandists, but the whole Right-Wing propagandists. I actually want everybody to read what they reference, so they do not misrepresent and spread such bullshit all around. But well, that is just my authoritarian and Marxist point of view. :)
Great job, dude! I love this channel!
Great review and thank you.
I've been Left leaning, open minded all my life yet got sucked into the anti SJW rabbit hole a year ago and then stuck in the echo chamber YT algorithms create.
I recently discovered 3 arrows as iv3 been seeking a counterpoint and am delighted I have. Rational sanity my old friend...welcome back!
I have already been introduced to several other like channels that I will now review...whilst maintaining clicks on the - so called centrist and alt right for ballance.
Let's see how this goes!
Try.. Um, contrapoints.
Or if the styles not for you, philosophy tube or hbomberguy... Likely you already found em by now, I was in the same boat as you and it's a relief to not have 'doom and gloom' thrown at you constantly.
Same thing here
same here
Try Knowing Better I find it not as heavy
In Others words you Fell Into a radical Pipeline again...pls my Friend get therapy
Paul is very angry that popular culture is designed to be as bland and generic as possible because it's trying to attract as many people as possible because that's how it becomes, well, popular...
Yeah: you'd be looking at unintentionally homoerotic art, instead.
As opposed to intentionally homoerotic art?
Have you seen the art that the Third Reich found acceptable? All those statues and paintings of handsome, muscular, men doing manly things?
Yeah, definitely not my thing. In retrospect I'm not sure why I made the comment, I guess I was thinking that the "Orangutan" (not Trump) was thinking about intentionally homoerotic art as "degeneracy", and from the perspective of someone troubled by it to the point of requiring to have the access to it banned, perhaps the unintentional type is less of a challenge.
thank you for saying what I have felt in my gut but unable to say this whole time. Truly, thank you.
Can any of the 3.9k dislikes explain what they don't get about this video?
Probably chuds that can’t face reality
My peepee touched the dislike button
Feelings don't care about facts
Because culture Marxism is a fact, it is existent in many peoples minds
@@tomekdziemian please show evidence
Of course there was absolutely no mention of Antonio Gramsci, just conflation of cultural marxism and cultural bolshevism. To lay it out like this the main idea of Gramsci was that the reason the proletariat were not rising up like Marx predicted was because of the culture and it's various institution were keeping them servile. For Gramsci his solution for this was for socialists and other revolutionaries to infiltrate and subvert as many cultural and societal institutions as possible and to hollow them out. The goal of which was to cause enough agitation among the lower classes to make a communist uprising possible. Post-modernism in this case is simply a means to an end for the Marxist, a tool used to subvert out institutions and then to discard it when they take power.
Oh, come on. I know he’s a fellow xenophobic bald, but Molyneux dreams of being as cool as Lex.
Depends on what series of Superman you're reading. He can be an over the top villain in one comic and then a brilliant guy genuinely concerned about how potentially dangerous Superman is in another. I liked brilliant and cautious Luthor more.
@@timtheskeptic1147 yeah Molyneux is nowhere near as smart as Luthor and I'm pretty sure even Luthor is more tolerant towards immigrants and doesn't believe in white supremacy.
You know what... I'm gonna go around telling people I'm a cultural Marxist now. Just to really fuck with em. 😂
Ask a leftist why they hate capitalism and they'll describe capitalism and point out its flaws.
Ask a capitalist why they hate socialism and they'll describe capitalism but call it 'socialism'
“Socialism is when minority characters in movies”
We are literally at the bottom of the barrel. Jesus Christ…
This is so fucking true!
Great descriptions, you make easy work of summing up stuff into nice digestible pieces, thank you very much please make more videos.
Great video and you got the philosophy right! and its a bit laughable to see some of the comments, Yes one I think most of the "skeptics" online use it as more of a Red scar than from the Nazis, BUT if they are so intellectual they should use another word
Dude you totally surprised me with that Mein Kampf quote. I thought it would be Jordan Peterson talking about "but ma capitalist Nature"
That nonsense about nationhood and race is nothing Jordan Peterson has ever or would ever say, so apparently you don't really pay attention.
@@valerierodger7700 How sweet of you to insult him when he admits a mistake.
Had to come back to this video a few months after first hearing it--it's so good and important!
PJW's criticism of the music industry can be very easily argued as a byproduct of consumerist-capitalism, probably more so than anything resembling cultural Marxism. Even if one accepts the modern pop music sucks (debatable), the fact that certain sounds are reused is because they sell. You can make a legitimate criticism that pop music is bad because it eschews sincere artistic expression in favor of pandering to consumers in the name of profit.
edit: watched another 10 seconds and Adorno made the same argument
Was that lex lutor as molyneux? Im bouncing lol
"until these words lose all their meaning" The word "socialism" comes to mind...
Thanks for being a voice of reason on youtube, subbed!
Very helpful. I commend the classic work "The Dialectical Imagination" by Martin Jay. Yes, I was a philoiphy major in college, but I got over it.
I am truly glad i can watch a channel such as this. Instead of Jordan Peterson Or Paul Joseph Watson.
@Jano van Pelt Please don't link people to Nazi shit, it's like a prolapsed rectum.
Nobody is better off for having seen it, and most people lose their lunch.
@Jano van Pelt
1) title of the video: "The Primacy of Race"
2) the content of the video: just a bunch of racist bullshit
3) the audience in the comments: litterally "hail triump" and other nazi shits
but sure little bitch we are miss represent you right? and you are the victim here.
you are just a dishonest piece of shit.
I thought I knew english lmao, a lot of points went over my head
Love your channel, keep up the good fight!
Just watched a few of your videos and i am now subcribed.
Im a philosophy major and will be doing my masters in history once I graduate. You chanel is great. Keep it up. Peterson does not understand post modernism. The second he lumped all post modernists as "cultural Marxists" he lost all credability. Not all postmodernists where marxists or would consider themself as post modernist. Many had conflicting thoughts and would openly criticize marxists as well. Peterson uses his psychology degree which is closely linked to the humanities as a stepping stone to sell his terrible philosophy.
Well argued!!
These people are not academics but rather a bunch of coffee house philosophers who idealize or romanticize the idea of being intellectual but lack the commitment to the truth and objectivity, emotional discipline, and integrity, which is evidence by the scope of their arguments. Their arguments are limited to western geographical region. However, whatever they are defending have had the devastating effect in other parts of the world.
Yeah, they obviously shouldn't try to defend their corner of the world, it's obviously much less valuable than certain other parts! Politics are a zero-sum game. You win or you lose. Is it wrong if you want to win?
Politics isn't a zero sum gain you empty headed moron. Its the process of who gets what, when and how. It is supposed to benefit everyone, even the basis of the word comes from the Greek word Polis which means city. Take your stone age mentality back into the cave you overgrown mole-rat.
As long as there are limited resources, yes, politics is a zero-sum game. The problem with third-world countries is not an actual lack of resources, it is the distribution of resources. Most third-world countries aren't far less wealthy than developed countries, they are shitholes because they can't get together and make a proper government. Why should we take care of them if they won't fix their own problems? It's a lose-lose situation for us.
They are far less wealthy because the wealthy countries are stealing their plant genetic material and natural resources. Instead of speaking in an ancient tongue that breeds contempt for your fellow man, maybe ingratiate yourself on the actual issues.
They are less wealthy because their government steals from them and negotiates disadvantageous treaties for the population while putting all the money in their own pockets. But do tell me how we stole the palaces some of the dictators over there live in and why we need to pay for their wasteful lifestyle. And if you want to talk about contempt for your fellow men, many immigrants do more than their fair share to breed contempt for themselves. Not to mention how much contempt they hold for others. Maybe look into the treatment of Christians or gays in the refugee camps. Well, who am I kidding? You won't, because all migrants can do no wrong and it's all really the fault of straight white men, am I right?
Ahhh common sense. I've missed you.
I do agree that Three Arrows has a very reasonable sounding voice and does make some good points but he is not free of his own cognitive bias.
This video mischaracterizes the way the right talks about cultural marxism. Nobody but the lunatic fringe thinks it is a conspiracy. But there clearly is an alliance of ethnic and social groups who benefit from demonizing white men and dismantling their culture and power.
Cultural Marxism isn't a conspiracy. It is just a bunch of movements encouraged by Jews pursuing their interests with all the tools at their disposal. There are no secret meetings with sneaky Jews hunched over tables in dark rooms planning the revolution...
But Jews have been 3 % of the US population but up to 30% positions of power. Same in Europe... financial, academic , cultural, artistic. If they calculated that applying pressure to fault lines that already existed.... racial inequality, feminism, mass immigration... would weaken their powerful white Christian rivals, then of course they would do it. They don't control these movements but they helped get them up and running with financial, academic, media and artistic support. Who could blame them for pursuing their interests. There is no doubt that living in a Western country now is much better for Jews than it used to be.
Some of these changes have been good, like stopping discrimination against gays and minorities , but the destruction of the family has hurt everyone . Blacks more so than whites. Three Arrows just ignores this completely.
He says there is nothing written by the Frankfurt school that can be linked to Cultural Marxism but a simple google search finds Max Horkheimer from the Frankfurt school quoted as saying "the root of Nazism is the family"
Wilhelm Reich said "The organized religious mysticism of Christianity was an element of the authoritarian family that led to Fascism."
"The patriarchal power in and outside of man was to be dethroned."
"Revolutionary sexual politics would mean the complete collapse of authoritarian ideology."
"Birth control was revolutionary ideology."
Theodor Adorno's book "Authoritarian Personality was one of the important books forming the basis of Critical Theory, which was essentially destructive criticism of the main elements of Western culture, including Christianity, capitalism, authority, the family, patriarchy, hierarchy, morality, tradition, sexual restraint, loyalty, patriotism, nationalism, heredity, ethnocentrism, convention and conservatism . The grand scheme of Adorno’s message, along with his other co-conspirators, was to fundamentally rearrange the values of Western nations so that school children and youth would become walking mouthpieces of the Frankfurt school revolutionary characters, thereby bringing about the new man."
Interesting that they attack Christian culture and tradition but not Jewish culture and tradition. It seems to be a tool for pursuing Jewish tribal interests by weakening their Christian rivals in every way they can.
You still missed it.
"He says there is nothing written by the Frankfurt school that can be linked to Cultural Marxism but a simple google search finds Max Horkheimer from the Frankfurt school quoted as saying "the root of Nazism is the family""
So what? Hitler ate vegetables and drank water. You are just as bad as Hitler!
If you want to show connections, you'll have to do better than find single quotes which, read out of context, seem to show a vague correlation with modern idiots.
Nope. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt (if one is to make up a quote, at least make up a relevant one) but apparently I shouldn't have because I can't find an actual source for it either.
You fart huffers are quite the bunch
Oh hey this is very topical!
*checks video publish date
*awww shiiit
Hey I'm the thumbnail!
That's something that has always confused me: marxism/communism are ideas that come from MODERNISM; they are not inherently related to postmodernism at all. In fact, since postmodernism covers such a wide range of ideas and positions, one of the only overarching statements that can be applied to postmodernism is the skepticism of meta-narratives; well it just so happens that marxism (dialectical materialism) IS a meta-narrative. This puts marxism and postmodernism directly at odds with each other...
@Pat Gomez That is not the discussion at hand, it may be a more important discussion, but the people using these terms aren't earnestly trying to improve anything.
I liked your picture of Sargon of home improvement
Meditating Jesus and I think 3A used a picture of Lex Luther as Stefan Molyneux
@West Coast Emerald Bull - I think that might have been Professor X.
Meditating Jesus HHHHHEEEUUUUAAASAHHH????
Sargon is a liberalist.
Just found your channel. Reading through the comments, it's crazy how selective people's hearing is.
You got a new subscriber. Finally a channel in English which nailed what the real left is. Greetings from a Mexican who congratulates you on your brave Marxist defense and understanding.
I love your work. I’ve been in search of someone who’s organized in their challenge to all these right wing “skeptics”
"Skepticism" as reactionary ideology. Constant naysaying is not refutation.
6:57 hm really gets you thinking if capitalism really breeds Innovation
People like you renew my faith in humankind. Danke.
Thanks for the content. We need more RUclipsrs like you to give some balance to the skewed RUclips political content. Although I like the others, it's becoming an echo chamber.
god i wish it would bring down western civilisation already
enough with western and eastern civilisation. we need a great southern supersociety
I guess we don’t need planes, medicine, or computers, right?
@@BossX2243 no, we only need psychopathic femboys with god complexes to forge a perfect world from their fantasies after the fall
I don’t know if it’s a stretch to ask this on an old video, but I think it would interesting for someone to re-visit this topic in relation to all of Ron Desantes comments on cultural Marxism and his attacks on education. The next Florida legislature is slated to pass a lot of anti education laws
That would be good and relevant since they shout about Marxism all the time.
The Frankfurt School did take Marx to be a starting point, but everyone in the Frankfurt School had very serious problems with Marx's work. Marcuse's "One Dimensional Man" is all about how Marx's idea of a workers' revolution wouldn't work today.
True, thats why they are called neomarxist and orthodox marxist even call them traitors or revisionist, but you cant expect people on the right to actually know anything about history or philosophy.
I thought Jordan Peterson was smart. The fact that he believes in cultural Marxism is disappointing.
Far right nuts are like that, they pretend to be intellectuals by saying big words, but in reality are as sharp as a blunt spoon.
He can speak very eloquently and fast making him seem very smart and credible
He makes himself sound smart, but if you dig into most of his stuff you'll pretty quickly find it's filled with pseudoscience and dishonesty.
@@some-one-else any examples?
the main reason marxism is not trying to bring down western civ, is beacuse marxism is a western ideology.
that means that the cold war was a quarrel between to western ideologies, and not a quarrel between east and west.
although russia was not a western power, it was taken over people who wanted to westernize on the marxist model and created the soviet union. same with china, north korea, vietnam, cambodia etc. they were not western nations but ruled by western ideologies.
that in turn means that two western ideologies, nazism and communism, were behind the some of the worst atrocities in human history.
Russia up to the ussr was apart of the west, the east west distinction occurred because the new centre of the west was the USA instead of Britain (previous hegemony). Even now a lot of eastern euros don't like being called easterners because they view themselves as a part of the west , especially the polish.
ArcticMog
Based on the information I have, that is not true, obviously i can be wrong.
Russia never viewed itself as western. Partly because they are slavic, partly brecause they are orthodox and partly because of their geographical location(both europe and asia). And that is also why other europeans didnt view russia as western. And often russia defined itself as by opposition to the west. if i am not mistaken Dostojevskij expressed many anti-western ideas.
There were people who wanted to make Russia western, Peter the great and Lenin are the most known, of course on two different models. As far as I can tell, they failed.
Its true Poland views itself as western, although they are slavic, they are located next to Germany and they are catholic, and that is why they view themselves as western.
tiglath
well geograpically russia is both european and asian. do you think that culturally the russians are europeans?
how do you define
1 western
2 european
i guess generally speaking these two terms are seen as synonyms.
interesting way at looking at this. i am very interested in how you came this conclusion? did you read some historian or a philosopher?
i would disagree. i see western and european civ as synonyms. wetsern/european civ is a fusion of greco-roman culture with christianity. after the enlightenment there have been a decline in christianity but the basic christian worldview is still there. almost every western ideology sees itself as universal, for example marxism, that universialism is based on the christian worldview.
i know the irish, south europeans, the slavs, werent considered white, but germans, french and scandinavians were considered white. but they were all considered europeans/western.
iin regards to russia, imo they are not western or european. althoug they with out a doubt have been influenced by europe. thats what i have read, would like to hear your arguments.
what are youre best arguments for that western and european is not the same?
Also the united states did a pretty good job fucking demolishing any countries that tried to do communism but didnt really have nukes
I agree. I don't associate pc with any particular political ideology, although as you brilliantly point out 'cultural marxism' is an often used term by the contemporary right. As you said this good old-fashioned red scare just doesn't stack up with reality in western politics today.
Only if you're deaf and blind and never turn on the television. Keep lying, you can totally substitute reality for everyone around you! Oh wait...
You can also say that fascism is a threat to the west. Even though it's from the west, it contradicts the foundational values that formed the modern west. Like equality of all man, individual rights etc. Using compassion as justification to favor the collective rights of the "marginalized group" over individual rights is also a threat to western values.
Jonathan Hart also saying Jews are evil because they were kicked out from many counties ignoring the fact society was incredible discriminator
That isn't the conception of the US Constitution. It is written both to protect the minority (the individual), but not to allow tyranny of any minority (individual).
That fundamental principle is detailed in "Jacobson v. Massachusetts," in which the US Supreme Court UPHELD a COMPULSORY vaccination mandate.
Yeah rationalism and individual liberty are good Enlightenment values, it's just a shame capitalism undermines both. Since, you are encouraged to do what's profitable not what's scientifically best for humanity (as proven by Americans not having free healthcare) and individual freedom is completely relative to how bourgeois you are as the homeless don't even have the freedom of their own space. The sad thing is work doesn't even always make you free under capitalism, but you actually have to work others to guarantee freedom. Hence, negative freedom is a freedom of the privileged and a freedom of exploitation.
I'm so glad that I accidentaly discovered your channel, Three Arrows. Thank you for on point arguments and dry, sardonic wit!
Just came into video, gotta say; that thumbnail is awesome. Karl looks like he's havin a good time.
Love this irony you put up from time to time!
CRAP! You got me thinking.
Thanks.
Postmodernism is a very different set of ideas than anything that Karl Marx came up with. Postmodernism in the most simple of terms is the broad idea that there is nothing objective but rather everything is relative. Marxism, again very broadly, is a theory proposed by Karl Marx that all private property is inherently oppressive and the solution is the abolishment of private property. Very different Philosophies tackling mostly different topics.
Postmodernism is the foundation of modern far-leftism, while Marxism is one of its tools. They don't go hand-in-hand, but the nature of postmodernism makes it so Marxism can be ignored or used at will. Or see it like this: "the nature of postmodernism makes it so _______ can be ignored or used at will" where the blank can be filled with any temporary devotion to something for a gain in power. It's barely an ideology, and more of a mental disorder.
Lol both you are wrong. Postmodernism isn't a philosophy so much as it is a phenomenon that philosophers wrote about. All of the postmodernists, even Derrida never posited that "nothing is objective;" rather, they questioned our ability to be objective because of the limitations of human perception. Postmodernism completely contradicts doctrinaire Marxism. The whole Marxist analysis of history is a grand historical narrative, and the postmodernist philosophers were skeptical of all historical narratives.
It couldn't have possibly developed into something with more weight to it and different interpretations?
Dialectical materialism is a fundamental part of Marxist theory, like praxeology is for the Austrian school. Postmodernists were critical of the truth of any particular historical narrative. That is a complete rejection of Marxism.
"they questioned our ability to be objective because of the limitations of human perception."
The problem is this is philosophy itself, not post-modernism. All of these questions go back as far as Plato and Aristotle. Philosophers through out all time have contemplated and attempted to define where the limits of our knowledge lie, the concept of acknowledging the permanent, however small, amount of uncertain underlying ALL of our knowledge was not invented with post-modernism, this is something that was understood long ago, this is was led to concept of Axioms which are the base levels of knowledge on which we have to build our understanding up from. The word Axiom goes back to ancient Greece so it's more than evident this it wasn't created by post-modernism.
What the post-modernists did was assert that there is essentially no validity to the established axioms of previous philosophical eras, no more validity than those of other cultures in particular, as the post-modernists would focus on the fact that there are ingrained cultural norms, some of which are arbitrary, as evidence that the limits on our knowledge necessitate that everything we define as self-evident is more or less arbitrary, particularly when it comes to what many call "social constructs".
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This was super useful as I had been wondering about what this terms actually meant
This is a really excellent video, very nuanced and clear.
Great work and analysis! Great to see more rational left-wing channels gaining.momentum
PJW "Why do you think everything sounds the same?" - As he, verbatim, copies someone else's argument.
Who has the power?
Who has the money?
Who owns the media?
You are for capital or for workers.
to answer your questions: its the irish
Billionaires duh
That picture of Al from Home Improvement got me.