Thanks Laurence, I have never seen this done before on video, you make it seem so easy. I will certainly give it a try, beats trying to take frames apart and gouging out the wax (with my skin at the same time) Just to say ta for all the videos and advice. Peter
Have fun spending hours wiring up frames! I was about to switch over to wired foundation for speed, but think I may just try to improve my wiring methods
Ah its sooo time consuming and boring. You can actually buy them prewired from a few places in bulk but if you only want a few, its best to just make them up as its its cheap
Hi Lawrence. Another very useful tutorial. Ive just made up 50 DN4 frames with a 25mm wax starter strip in each for use in the coming seasons swarm trap boxes. If I wire the frames now, will the bees build wax comb all the way to the bottom of the frame, incorporating the wire into the wax as the progess? Thanks again. Stuart
Hi Stuart. Yes they will but they will build lots of drone comb (over 30%). I much prefer to trap with used black combs and then transfer over to clean frames and foundation.
@@BlackMountainHoney Thanks Lawrence. I thought that in a 12 frame, 40 litre box, I'd try 6 frames of well used smelly comb, (3either side), with 6 frames with stater strips in the centre giving the bees the open space that scout bees favour.
@@TheStuartYork That should work well. Just be aware they may fill those starter strip combs combs with drone comb. Its no major issue. We have good success with boxes full of black drawn comb and empty boxes with 1 drawn comb.
@@BlackMountainHoney I'm looking to extract from National brood frames in a radial extractor so was looking at 3 as a minimum, not sure if 4 would be overkill. I have been searching the net, but there does not seam to be any standards when it comes to National frames, guess we so wired for wired foundation.
Thanks for the video, just wondering if you've tried leaving the bees to draw their own frame without any foundation. Something I've tried with super frames, but saw more drone comb
Hi Tim. Yes - I went through a foundationless phase but now always use foundation. Late in the year they make excellent foundationless frames but in spring they produce SO much drone comb. I cant personally recommend it
Thanks Laurence, I have never seen this done before on video, you make it seem so easy.
I will certainly give it a try, beats trying to take frames apart and gouging out the wax (with my skin at the same time) Just to say ta for all the videos and advice. Peter
No problem Peter. My pleasure. Yes - the real benefit to this method comes at the end when you melt down and rewax. Its so easy and efficient
Have fun spending hours wiring up frames! I was about to switch over to wired foundation for speed, but think I may just try to improve my wiring methods
Ah its sooo time consuming and boring. You can actually buy them prewired from a few places in bulk but if you only want a few, its best to just make them up as its its cheap
Good job understand a proper way of putting wire
Thanks. Glad you liked it
Great demonstration thanks Lawrence
No worries Steve.
Hi Lawrence.
Another very useful tutorial.
Ive just made up 50 DN4 frames with a 25mm wax starter strip in each for use in the coming seasons swarm trap boxes. If I wire the frames now, will the bees build wax comb all the way to the bottom of the frame, incorporating the wire into the wax as the progess?
Thanks again.
Stuart
Hi Stuart. Yes they will but they will build lots of drone comb (over 30%). I much prefer to trap with used black combs and then transfer over to clean frames and foundation.
@@BlackMountainHoney Thanks Lawrence.
I thought that in a 12 frame, 40 litre box, I'd try 6 frames of well used smelly comb, (3either side), with 6 frames with stater strips in the centre giving the bees the open space that scout bees favour.
@@TheStuartYork That should work well. Just be aware they may fill those starter strip combs combs with drone comb. Its no major issue. We have good success with boxes full of black drawn comb and empty boxes with 1 drawn comb.
How many wires you adding on a National Brood frame, or would you add?
Yes. Minimum 2. 3 If you can be bothered. 4 on a 14 x 12
@@BlackMountainHoney I'm looking to extract from National brood frames in a radial extractor so was looking at 3 as a minimum, not sure if 4 would be overkill. I have been searching the net, but there does not seam to be any standards when it comes to National frames, guess we so wired for wired foundation.
@@iandudman9529 4 is certainly overkill for national deeps Could argue 3 is belt and braces. 2 absolute minimum for deeps and shallows.
why do you leave a gap at the bottom of wax foundation.
also are the frames DN4 ?
Thanks for the video, just wondering if you've tried leaving the bees to draw their own frame without any foundation. Something I've tried with super frames, but saw more drone comb
Hi Tim. Yes - I went through a foundationless phase but now always use foundation. Late in the year they make excellent foundationless frames but in spring they produce SO much drone comb. I cant personally recommend it
Thanks for the video. Could I ask what size eyelets do you use? thanks
They are about 4-5mm across.
@@BlackMountainHoney thankyou
What ate the dimensions of those frames??