From the Speedreading Book by Tony Buzan, the faster you finish off a book (with the correct technique) will give you a better understanding and a stronger memory recall compared to reading slowly. There might be some connection.
What an interesting concept! Just looked up the book for a short summary and it could very well have overlap. However, instead of maybe 250+ wpm for reading, I see it as perhaps jumping fully into the content and immersing to gain as much exposure as possible. There in, obtaining and developing a stronger feel for the language and understanding through some sort of acquisition. Might have to give the book a read sometime!
I think this is the opposite of true though, at least for anything more than very short term retention. Slow readers tend to read more closely and more critically (that's what's making them slow).
That's a pretty interesting idea, I will skip school for a little in order to study very important things. Can you imagine not being a language learning diehard, couldn't be me.
to be honest i see your point, it seems like a decent way to do things. especially if you hate anki, then you can just do the 1000 cards immediately and then barely do anki while you just immerse (which personally, i love immersion and hate anki). only thing is, that i might hate anki a bit too much that i would burn out in the beginning, so this path isn't meant for me. it could definitely be viable, especially once you show your mature retention rates, but until then we'll have to see. i've been doing 25 new cards a day but even that had too many reviews for me so i brought the new words per day down to 5 just to get the reviews under control before i bring it back up to around 10 new words per day probably.
I definetely see your point, but I encourage you to try it! At the core strategy of this method, it borrows from something called interval training where you have a cycle of short bursts of high intensity activity, followed by periods of low intensity activity. So maybe 1000 might not be up your alley, but if you can complete 140 new cards over the course of 2-3 days and the maintain those reviews for another 10 days (about 2 weeks) this nets the same as 10 cards a day for 2 weeks. However, instead of seeing around 80-100 consistent reviews per day, it'll trickle down to more along the lines of 20-40 by the end of that week which you can continue reviewing until your ready for a new interval. Just some food for thought! The only thing I can say is if you never try it you (and I 😁) will never know! All I can say is that I'm starting to see a lot of the cards I had done in the jp1k in my immersion and they're really solidifying in my head.
I might try this until I finish the core 2K. I'm doing 15 new cards a day and at the rate I'm going, it's going to take me months to get myself out of beginner levels. So I might try this to a lesser extent (50 words) but also focus heavily on reading and anime immersion.
i liked the video, bc i did something similar back in 2020 when i was just starting to learn english, and it worked really smoothly in the sense that after the first two weeks , inmersing felt easier bc i already had vocabulary working in my brain, i just needed to connect the dots(sentences).
Thank you! I do think it can be very useful! The whole "jumpstarting" comprehension is necessary in the beginning and I totally think Anki helps there with immersion from the start
Wow, I never thought of front loading the new card reviews on Anki - I always thought that slow and steady would lead to more retention but the point you made about immersing and actually seeing the Kanji "in the wild" will help it stick as it will be somewhat familiar vs if you haven't seen it all. Really interesting stuff. I want try this, but here's my question - I'm already midstream through my reviews. I'm about 1000 cards in and got about 1200 more to go. Will this approach be feasible? Or is this better if you're starting from scratch? For reference, I got about 250 reviews on average per day.
I think this method could be started at any time in your review cycle, as long as you have the time for it. At 250 reviews per day right now, if you finished the remaining 200, the next day you would probably do around 800 reviews (assuming you hit again 2-3 time on the 200 new you did the previous day). But the only thing to do would be to try it and see and then report back 😁!
I've got a 86% or so retention rate from my mature cards, so I'd reckon that it was for me. BUT, results may vary depending on the time you start it and how much time you have to dedicate to Anki.
I started learning Japanese two months ago, but I’m learning in uni and we’ve gone at a very slow pace. For context, by the end of the semester (August-December), we’re expected to have learned 72 kanji, and we’ll have completed Genki I. On top of that, I’ve been doing next to zero immersion. I want to increase the rate at which my Japanese is improving, so something like this sounds extremely enticing. If I understand correctly, the idea is that you’re learning 1k cards in the course of a few days, grinding the reviews over that short period of time, so that in the long run you’ll be spending less time on reviews and more time immersing, which will help you cement what you learned in Anki. Additionally, by increasing your familiarity with so many Kanji early on, even if you don’t get them right all the time, you’ll *significantly* increase the pool of available comprehensible input. Pretty busy this week, but I’m confident that this is the route I’ll take. Only concern of mine is retention as a beginner. I’m pretty good at coming up with mnemonics fairly quickly, but doing it for 200 cards/day does sound kind of difficult.
I think you summarized my point very concisely! By exposing yourself to so many cards and reviews in the beginning, you may only be remembering them by brute force in the beginning, but during the weeks following, the immersion that you expose yourself to will cement most of the words into memory, henceforth, increasing you comprehension greatly. I do caution, however, that it sounds great on paper but is very intensive and time consuming to start (5-10 hours a day depending on your level). If you can get through with it, it'll be worth it though (in my opinion), and you can use it to branch off into different immersion methods that include things like sentence mining, intensive listening, etc. ONE thing as well is that you should make sure that your kana reading skills are good as well. The faster you can read, the more efficient you can get through content. I do think uni all around is fairly slow and 72 kanji is nothing (and that's even a step ahead of my first semester I had taken way back when, we only did things in kana). I wish you the best! Let me know how it goes and always feel free to join my discord chat!
@@Jarods_Journey So, two weeks or so after posting that message I went ahead and tried the challenge. Decided that 50 cards/day was about the extent I could take seeing as most of the kanji were completely new to me. First two days or so were alright, felt like I was learning a lot, even though it was taking me forever to get through the cards. However, after the fourth day I decided to give up. I think my biggest problem wasn't necessarily with the proposed method, but instead the JP1K deck. It was extremely frustrating immersing and seeing characters that I thought I knew, only to realize that they were slightly different than the one I'd memorized. Or seeing a part of a compound kanji in another word and thinking, "oh, I know that one!" only for me to realize it was only the first half of another word. If I'd gone slower and learned only, say, 10 or 20 new vocab a day with the JP1K deck, I think these issues would've been exacerbated less, but of course, the goal was to get through the deck at a fairly fast pace. Because the idea behind the JP1K deck is just to memorize kanji compounds as a whole (as a part of vocab), small details weren't considered too much, and so even though I didn't confuse kanji within the deck for each other, the type of conflation described above was a frequent, and extremely irritating/demotivating occurrence in immersion. So, what did I end up doing? After doing a lot of research on different kanji/vocab learning methods, I decided to go with the old reliable. I started RRTK 8 days ago, going at a pace of 25 kanji-English keyword associations per day. It's been extremely smooth sailing. This componentization of kanji just appeals to me so much, and the confidence that I have looking at Japanese text is so much higher than it was with JP1K. There's no second-guessing, "wait, did I learn that kanji?" because I recognize components, and if there's even a single unfamiliar component in a kanji character, or I simply don't remember a story attached to it, I know I haven't learned it yet. Yes, going the RRTK route means you delay learning vocab, but I think it's 100% worth it. The kanji knowledge that you'll have built up will make memorizing vocabulary *so* much easier, and even in this ~week since starting I've experienced this multiple times. Another benefit of going through RRTK is being able to recognize the meaning of kanji-based words that you haven't learned yet. For example, I saw 消火器 on Reddit the other day, and I learned "extinguish", "fire", and "utensil" through RRTK, so I was immediately able to piece together that this was the kanji for fire extinguisher. That feeling was incredible. If I'd continued with JP1K, even if I'd seen words with each of the kanji in it, because I didn't learn the individual kanji meanings, that type of deduction wouldn't have occurred. Or at least, it would've taken me much longer to reach that point. Would just like to say that I really appreciate this channel. You're not afraid to experiment with ways to increase the efficiency of your learning, and I respect that. My goal right now is to finish RRTK and get through Genki I/II (doing two lessons per day, just making Anki cards on the topics discussed) by mid-January. At that point I'm planning on going through the Tango N5 + N4 decks at a rate of 25 cards/day, and whenever I start Tango N4 I'll start doing sentence mining since I should have a decent vocabulary base. All in all, I like what the JP1K deck tries to accomplish, and I think your idea of speedrunning through it to get the most out of immersion ASAP is a good one. I think for someone like me, though, building a solid kanji base and then jumping into vocab will increase my chances of not giving up out of frustration (lol). Also, I know this comment is already incredibly long, but I'm curious as to what your thoughts on The Doth's road to fluency are. Essentially, by reading visual novels and other difficult media, he was able to achieve N1 from zero in "~500 days". Good luck on your journey man, I'll be watching!
@@mannyw_ I read through your entire comment :D, so I'll make comments now on a little of both! I applaud you for trying! I love to hear the feedback and the experience others have gone through for this absurd little method. After all, motivation and enjoyment of a language needs to be there or else there's no point in really continuing as chances are extremely low of achieving a high level with no motivation (I've really never hear of many cases). On the basis of the deck, I think this method exacerbates whatever problem you may see in a deck, so in this case, I think it elevated the levels of the flaws in the jp1k. I believe if you had gotten the jp1k deck 1.0 , there were a lot of flaws on it, though, they did come out with a newer one so I'm not sure whether that may or may not help some. (maybe, maybe not). On the method, it's definitely an extreme way in going about things. It's possible (I still think) to do it with any deck out there but you need to have a lot of time on your hands and the motivation to plow through a deck at such a pace or else burnout will ensue :d. The flaw in it is the time aspect and even memorization aspect... I'm still not entirely sure how strong the retention of the memories made while doing it are and doing it with random kanji you've never studied before may or may not even work. On Rrtk, or rtk, I think it totally depends on how you like learning the kanji. I actually started with something like rtk except it was based off of heavy usage of mnemonics and making mnemonics of every single kanji you come across, kinda the basis of the Fluent Forever method by Gabriel Wyner. It really worked for me and I did enjoy making mnemonics, but I did eventually get tired of it and ended up where I am now xd. I can't comment on rrtk as I haven't gone through it, but I hear both the goods and the bads and I agree a little bit with both sides. I feel you can do rrtk and vocab at the same time and achieve a nice little balance. On Doth... I haven't actually heard anything about it but I'll have to go check it out! If it's based off of reading VN's and difficult media, then on that basis... that's exactly what I'm doing right now lol. I don't differentiate between using media whether it's hard or whether it's easy, I just go through it and I think if that appeals to someone, them they should do it. Me, personally, it's these levels of media that pushed me to learn the language so I figure why not use them to learn xD.
@@Jarods_Journey Yeah, what you said about the method exacerbating any problems the deck already had is 100% true. I also think you’re right in saying that doing RRTK and vocab at the same time might be the move. The Doth is a guy who progressed in Japanese extremely quickly essentially by building a reasonable base and then just playing through a ton of visual novels, as well as reading and watching Japanese shows, of course. There are some interviews with him and he made a popular Reddit post as well.
@@mannyw_ I took a look at one of the interviews and honestly, seems like a chill way of doing things. Tbh, Anki really only is about 10-20% of my study time and the rest is spent doing other things (though not as active as I would like). The Doth seems like a pretty cool dude, and I love seeing people who have progressed using the entertainment method of learning through harder material. Makes me seem less crazy XD
Hi. I was wondering if your view on this method has changed or more or less stayed the same over the past year or so. Have you done another similar attempt at front-loading cards?
My view has stayed generally the same, I still think it may be more efficient and effective to kickstart initial comprehension. The only problem I see is burning out and not being able to properly remember everything you review which is something that can occur. I haven't done another attempt and my reason for that is because I'm slowly trying to move away from anki
Interesting experiment and it seems to make lots of sense for someone in your place(as in how much you know japanese already) I just started my journey today and it went like this 20 new cards = 35' For me to learn 200(if I could deal with the frustration) would mean 5h to learn it I could see myself doing that 1 day but tackling those reviews next day and new cards? Hell no lol. 400 cards where basically I know 0 would be impossible for my IQ at least haha. I see your point though. My idea is to try 50/100 and see how it goes but knowing 0 kanji I doubt it goes well
From the feedback I've seen, it definitely is harder in the beginning, but not impossible. However, the thing is that your still spending 5+ hours on Anki which... Is extremely tiresome and boring. I personally do 15 right now and think it's a good balance haha. Though, good luck and welcome to the journey!
@@Jarods_Journey I've been thinking and I will do this but as "mini-sprints". 20/50 cards a day for 3/5 days, consolidate them, repeat. I will be using Migaku's kanji god add-on meanwhile and that way I can consolidate the vocab knowledge and the kanji within it. Will prob come back haha
@@MuEnViFitness I like to think of it as interval training, sprint on, wall off and you do it for a week or so. Wish ya the best, let us know what happens! I hear only good things from migaku so solid tool!
I was trying to configurate my anki but I set just 1 or 5 reviews only and 250 new cards still showing me a lot of reviews when I click again, what I can do just to see new cards?
A few of things: - You should try your best to always get your reviews done instead of new cards. Reviews are much more important than new cards because if you don't do them, you'll forget them and lose your progress. - With that being said, if you just want new cards, instead of setting your reviews to 1-5, move all of your"review" cards to a custom study deck, and then just review the new cards. Note: every new cards needs to be reviewed twice as good before you don't see it again. - I don't recommend you change the settings unless you understand how it may affect your efficiency. I recommend reading about it on the refold site for the best settings at refold.la . Once configured, then you can change your new card count to 250, and then I would increase your reviews to the amount of cards in your deck
hiii!! as of today im doing only 12 new cards per day, I already finished the refold jpv2 though. Do you still recommend to set my new cards 200 per day? I still have other decks like core 2k/6k, rtk, and my own deck. do you recommend setting my deck especially the 2k/6k to 200 per day?
You can try it to see how it works! My recommendations are that you only do it for 5 days MAX, then lay off of new reviews for a couple of weeks. You can then gauge how well this strategy is working for you. Also, I really wouldn't recommend too many decks, since you've already finished the jp1k v2, I think you would be fine to gain vocabulary through sentence mining. You don't wanna spend more time in Anki than you do consuming media in the language
@@Jarods_Journey well, I don't have any gadgets that can't keep up with immersion and also I'm too lazy because my current laptop can't keep up with active immersion (playing anime and anki along with other software ) (if you add chrome, also my laptop is 4 years old. specification: 4gb ram, intel celeron, and 500 gb hdd) that's why I have too many decks to make up for my lack of immersion. but I still do immersion, especially passive immersion and I also have manga for active immersion. Well anyway, I'm going to try 200 thanks!
So one year out how do you feel about this methodology? Do you still think it holds true or do you think that we are much better off at learning in smaller intervals such as say 20 cards per day or 15 cards per day? I'm not a complete beginner but I gave up on Anki after my reviews piled up and I'm looking to get back into it.
My view has shifted a little, but not too much. I think its easier to do this as a beginner as it sets a tangible goal for you from nearly zero, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend this once your over 2k words or have been mining extensively and actively immersing. There comes a point at which I think just consuming Japanese is the better option because it's simply just more fun and enjoyable. Personally, I don't think Anki is even necessary, but I keep it up since it's a tangible number I can look at day-to-day. My daily new is set to 25 ATM, only for my mining deck
@@Jarods_Journey Interesting. I am assuming that you are spending most of your time reading in terms of your immersion content wherein you look up words and add them to your mining deck?
@@eizenga71 Yup, pretty much summed it up right there haha! That's all there really is to it, find interesting content, consume it, look-up unknown things, and carry onwards!
I like this concept. I was looking through the internet for people doing this kind of studying. Just think about it. So, many people cram right before a test and are able to retain all that information they crammed 1 or 2 days before the test. Now, imagine if you crammed at the beginning of the year, and just lightly reviewed everyday until the test. You would remember, learn, and retain so much more information and it will be a lot more stressful. I also just started doing 50 cards a day on the 2k6k deck for the next 100 days.
Well, my little disclaimer is that I had been learning Japanese previously before starting the deck I did. However, with that said, I built little mnemonics to remember the kanji that I didn't know and just kept grinding through those. I didnt spend too long on any particular card as I hitting again 3-4 times in the beginning was fine for me as I knew retention would be low (since learning so many). It took 4+ hours in the beginning so the front load work was intense, but pays off if it can be done. How is your study regimen? If your goal is for retention, you need to be doing immersion as soon as possible so you can start attributing memories and meaning to the words you see in anki
I currently am using the core 2k/6k deck on anki which has 6000 words in it. I know ~850 and am taking 15 new cards a day. Would you recommend increasing them to an amount in the 100's like you did or a smaller amount?
I definetely don't recommend it for sanity's sake, but I think it's a way to be more efficient. Note I only did this up until I hit 1k new cards, if you want to do something similar, it's kind of an all or nothing thing so I would do like 100-200 for 5 days and then set it down to zero to catch up on reviews. But 15 is fine too imo.
@@Graciepoopy haha wish ya luck! Let us know what happens, if you join the discord, there's always a core group of us who are pretty active to talk about learning Japanese lol
Mmph, I wouldn't recommend doing more than 1000 cards per cycle. I would do it for 1000 three times. Doing it all the way through will be way too much at the end to keep up with
8:30 it is difficult, I guess. A beginner who never used Anki before is learning how Anki works while studying new cards, getting used with the language.
But once they get familiar with it, would it be then possible and beneficial to do something like this? I haven't seen much Anecdotal evidence for or against it with beginners.
@V O I knew there was something in the medical field, but it's really interesting you bring it up! I had actually seen something like this a few days ago and was thinking how applicable it could be towards language learning. I guess it's a different subject but I think our goals are generally the same: just trying to remember a lot of things, very fast, and very well. If it pays off in the medical field, I wonder how well it'll do in the language learning Anki community
I am doing 100 a day and drown in reviews it started to feel like a chore. My recall is probably 80/100. I can do 100% recall if i review the newly learned words few hours later.
Yeah this is the only problem is that the reviews become huge. I only recommend you do this for a few days so that eventually the reviews go down again
@@Jarods_Journey today i pushed 160 words 😂. I wanted to be done with the deck once and for all. Tomorrow is thr final level of reviews. Gonna take at least 3 hours to so my reviews tomorrow and reinforce the forgotten cards. I am doing active recall by the way.
Hmm... Maybe I could just go through all the vocab in an anime episode and then immerse in it while I'm not adding new cards until it eases up and then go to then next episode...
You could, but one important factor is novelty as well. You don't want to let boredom kill your motivation so while it's totally possible, IF you wanna do it this way maybe do it for one episode, but give the others a watch as well
@@Jarods_Journey I would probably passively immerse a lot while doing other things and actively go through it once I have gone through all the cards. At the moment I am going over a deck I made with Yomichan of words in dictionary definitions I couldn't understand and I am going through them ten a day. Slow but steady progress!
@@Sashin9000 As long as your moving along, that's what counts xD! Well, wish ya the best in it! If you ever have any questions, hop in the discord as well!
The language learning mantra these days is immersion immersion immersion. If you look at Livakivi’s RUclips for the first year or whatever he minimal immersion and focused on Anki and Duolingo. He argued successfully that immersion is not useful if you’re a beginner since you can’t understand anything. He didn’t do high reps of Anki like you’re doing but I think Anki and Duolingo are similar in that they’re not immersion. I hate Duolingo so I’m trying what you’re doing with Korean. I don’t expect to keep adding 100+ cards per day forever as reviews will add up (my deck doesn’t top out at 1000) but I’m basically using the vast majority of my study time for Anki. It feels much better than immersion for now.
I agree with a lot of that! Immersion is such a broad term and I really think people use it as a blanket statement for so many different things, it's overused. My experience is similar in that blindly listening and consuming the language without "studying" it results in way slower growth... Esp in the beginning. There has to be an active component to the immersion in order to actually get anything out of it and this is where Anki falls in place for a lot of people. Extensive lookups and repetition while watching or consuming can take the place of Anki... But most people (including myself) really hate doing this and will have to just consume without understanding. This is why I'm such a big fan of reading nowadays, it's almost all active immersion.
I used to do around 300 new cards a day and I burnt out when my reviews started getting to 800 per day I do not recommend that; I am still experiencing some issues from that.
Lol this is pretty ambitious, but I applaud you for still keeping it up. I don't think this is possible to do for any long period of time, but if you do intervals or bursts, and can keep up with it, I can see eit being useful
My problem with this idea is that it treats finishing a deck like its some kind of objective to complete a video game, when that isn't really what Anki is useful for. e.g. Rushing through all of Core2K doesn't equate to someone knowing all 2000 words because they repped them a few times and saw a single English definition. Anki's goal when learning language is to help solidify a piece of information that you are already familiarizing yourself with in immersion. It sounds nice on paper that your reviews will quickly taper off but is that really what you want in the first place? It can be said that you have more time for immersion but it isn't as if it takes long to do reviews for 30-50 cards a day in the first place. The average djt user from what I've seen has an answer time of like 3-4 seconds per vocab card with 90-95% retention, which is no time at all for getting through even several hundred reviews. I just can't see the benefit of rushing through a premade deck doing it half-baked, when you could just do a fraction of those cards well and then not need to likely re-mine them later on when you inevitably forget them due to relying too much on short-term memory as opposed to building long-term memory instead. Not to mention that these core vocab decks like JP1K, Core 2/2.3/3/6K, Tango, etc, that "teach'" you the x-number of most common vocabulary cards aren't meant to be done in isolation in the first place, and instead are meant to accompany the active immersion that someone getting into learning a language is doing from the get-go, otherwise they're completely superfluous because the information isn't being anchored to anything you're being exposed to besides Anki.
I appreciate the comment and sorry in the response delay. I have points that I both disagree and agree upon that you laid out. Based on what you wrote, from the way I understand it, this sounds more like a critque of premade decks (which I'm not against at all) instead of a critque on doing lots of anki cards per day. That is a slightly different discussion. If the average DJT user can run through 30-50 cards per day at 3-4 seconds with 90-95% retention rate, this already sounds like an experienced anki user which I'm sure most of the DJT community is. There's already a feedback loop of immersion into anki and vice versa. Now what if they bumped it up to 200? If they are using mined cards, this may not work since mining 200 cards per day is a little bit excessive, but what IF? That IF is what this video proposed. The point of the video was to more or less discuss IF front loading cards is more effective than spacing it out over time, mainly for a beginner. I don't think I explicitly stated it, but anyone doing Jp1k or similar most likely just started or is getting their feet into anki/the language. In general, the goal of the Jp1k or even core 2k deck is NOT to "learn" the words, but to be exposed to them. It's to prepare the learner for immersion content while they get into reading and watching. Now, is it better to run through all of the cards in less than a week or spread it out over a longer period of time? This is what I don't know and which is why I proposed it. I believe that language learning in general benefits much more from high intensity work in the beginning instead of spacing it overtime. The faster you get "better," the more you can immerse etc. etc. and it only compounds from there. I did make the point that you might not have time in the first 5 days for active immersion if you are doing 200 cards per day, but that would be temporary. The biggest point made here wasn't that you'd be studying in isolation, but in tangent with immersion to better "solidify" words into memory. Content that goes over your head is more superfluous in nature than something that you recognize. I believe there is plenty of immersion content to consume in order to reduce this superfluous nature in which you spoke of, which should follow after finishing the deck. Like I said, the biggest negative here is time. If you only do anki and don't leave time for immersion, it's basically gg. If you read through all this, I appreciate it. I like hearing other opinions on this matter and it makes things all the more interesting.
I think it might be more enjoyable to spend the same time reading. Especially for common words, they're going to show up many times in a short span, you don't need flash cards. imo flashcards are just what we do when we can't think of any other way to study. it results in pretty ephemeral knowledge, but I understand if you just want to prime yourself for understanding dialogue on TV and don't like reading it may be your best bet. But if that's the case, might as well ignore kanji and just use audio cards. personally I think in such a system you should suspend any card older than a month, you either know it from outside context or you're going to lose it and waste time on it.
I do agree with the sentiment that it's more enjoyable to read, it 100% is. However, this video is more of a discussion about Anki efficiency rather than method efficiency; if you were already going to do a pre-made Anki deck, perhaps 200 is better than 20. I'm not advocating for Anki only learning, but here are my thoughts: On the topic of effectiveness, let's say I'm a beginner who can barely read the Kana. Let's assume I can read at 1000 characters per hour (which is pretty high at the start imo) and I recognize words after the 7th occurance. The odds of coming across each word over the same time period seems pretty slim to me, so I feel the Anki deck (if curated well enough) proves more time efficient in this case. Now assume I have attained a higher level, I can read around 5-6k characters per hour (this is the rate that I currently read at, still using look-ups). I have much more of a chance to come across these same words over again than said beginner. As well, it makes reading much more enjoyable as I can proceed at a tolerable pace. I believe there's a time and place for all of these different strategies, and depending on stage, one may be more effective than the other. Anki won't get you fluent like reading will, but may prove to be very beneficial to speed things up.
From the Speedreading Book by Tony Buzan, the faster you finish off a book (with the correct technique) will give you a better understanding and a stronger memory recall compared to reading slowly. There might be some connection.
What an interesting concept! Just looked up the book for a short summary and it could very well have overlap. However, instead of maybe 250+ wpm for reading, I see it as perhaps jumping fully into the content and immersing to gain as much exposure as possible. There in, obtaining and developing a stronger feel for the language and understanding through some sort of acquisition.
Might have to give the book a read sometime!
I think this is the opposite of true though, at least for anything more than very short term retention. Slow readers tend to read more closely and more critically (that's what's making them slow).
That's a pretty interesting idea, I will skip school for a little in order to study very important things. Can you imagine not being a language learning diehard, couldn't be me.
Very interesting approach, will try it. Thank you!
Wish you the best 😁!
to be honest i see your point, it seems like a decent way to do things. especially if you hate anki, then you can just do the 1000 cards immediately and then barely do anki while you just immerse (which personally, i love immersion and hate anki). only thing is, that i might hate anki a bit too much that i would burn out in the beginning, so this path isn't meant for me. it could definitely be viable, especially once you show your mature retention rates, but until then we'll have to see. i've been doing 25 new cards a day but even that had too many reviews for me so i brought the new words per day down to 5 just to get the reviews under control before i bring it back up to around 10 new words per day probably.
I definetely see your point, but I encourage you to try it! At the core strategy of this method, it borrows from something called interval training where you have a cycle of short bursts of high intensity activity, followed by periods of low intensity activity. So maybe 1000 might not be up your alley, but if you can complete 140 new cards over the course of 2-3 days and the maintain those reviews for another 10 days (about 2 weeks) this nets the same as 10 cards a day for 2 weeks. However, instead of seeing around 80-100 consistent reviews per day, it'll trickle down to more along the lines of 20-40 by the end of that week which you can continue reviewing until your ready for a new interval.
Just some food for thought! The only thing I can say is if you never try it you (and I 😁) will never know!
All I can say is that I'm starting to see a lot of the cards I had done in the jp1k in my immersion and they're really solidifying in my head.
I might try this until I finish the core 2K. I'm doing 15 new cards a day and at the rate I'm going, it's going to take me months to get myself out of beginner levels. So I might try this to a lesser extent (50 words) but also focus heavily on reading and anime immersion.
i liked the video, bc i did something similar back in 2020 when i was just starting to learn english, and it worked really smoothly in the sense that after the first two weeks , inmersing felt easier bc i already had vocabulary working in my brain, i just needed to connect the dots(sentences).
Thank you! I do think it can be very useful! The whole "jumpstarting" comprehension is necessary in the beginning and I totally think Anki helps there with immersion from the start
Wow, I never thought of front loading the new card reviews on Anki - I always thought that slow and steady would lead to more retention but the point you made about immersing and actually seeing the Kanji "in the wild" will help it stick as it will be somewhat familiar vs if you haven't seen it all. Really interesting stuff. I want try this, but here's my question - I'm already midstream through my reviews. I'm about 1000 cards in and got about 1200 more to go. Will this approach be feasible? Or is this better if you're starting from scratch? For reference, I got about 250 reviews on average per day.
I think this method could be started at any time in your review cycle, as long as you have the time for it. At 250 reviews per day right now, if you finished the remaining 200, the next day you would probably do around 800 reviews (assuming you hit again 2-3 time on the 200 new you did the previous day). But the only thing to do would be to try it and see and then report back 😁!
@@Jarods_Journey I will most definitely do that. Thanks for the video! This is great stuff!
@@starplatinum9677 so... What are your thoughts on thos matter now?
wondering too@@starplatinum9677
It's been 6 months since this proposal
Do you remember all the JP1K vocabulary?
So in other words, was the method effective?
I've got a 86% or so retention rate from my mature cards, so I'd reckon that it was for me. BUT, results may vary depending on the time you start it and how much time you have to dedicate to Anki.
I started learning Japanese two months ago, but I’m learning in uni and we’ve gone at a very slow pace. For context, by the end of the semester (August-December), we’re expected to have learned 72 kanji, and we’ll have completed Genki I. On top of that, I’ve been doing next to zero immersion. I want to increase the rate at which my Japanese is improving, so something like this sounds extremely enticing. If I understand correctly, the idea is that you’re learning 1k cards in the course of a few days, grinding the reviews over that short period of time, so that in the long run you’ll be spending less time on reviews and more time immersing, which will help you cement what you learned in Anki. Additionally, by increasing your familiarity with so many Kanji early on, even if you don’t get them right all the time, you’ll *significantly* increase the pool of available comprehensible input. Pretty busy this week, but I’m confident that this is the route I’ll take. Only concern of mine is retention as a beginner. I’m pretty good at coming up with mnemonics fairly quickly, but doing it for 200 cards/day does sound kind of difficult.
I think you summarized my point very concisely! By exposing yourself to so many cards and reviews in the beginning, you may only be remembering them by brute force in the beginning, but during the weeks following, the immersion that you expose yourself to will cement most of the words into memory, henceforth, increasing you comprehension greatly.
I do caution, however, that it sounds great on paper but is very intensive and time consuming to start (5-10 hours a day depending on your level). If you can get through with it, it'll be worth it though (in my opinion), and you can use it to branch off into different immersion methods that include things like sentence mining, intensive listening, etc. ONE thing as well is that you should make sure that your kana reading skills are good as well. The faster you can read, the more efficient you can get through content.
I do think uni all around is fairly slow and 72 kanji is nothing (and that's even a step ahead of my first semester I had taken way back when, we only did things in kana).
I wish you the best! Let me know how it goes and always feel free to join my discord chat!
@@Jarods_Journey So, two weeks or so after posting that message I went ahead and tried the challenge. Decided that 50 cards/day was about the extent I could take seeing as most of the kanji were completely new to me. First two days or so were alright, felt like I was learning a lot, even though it was taking me forever to get through the cards. However, after the fourth day I decided to give up.
I think my biggest problem wasn't necessarily with the proposed method, but instead the JP1K deck. It was extremely frustrating immersing and seeing characters that I thought I knew, only to realize that they were slightly different than the one I'd memorized. Or seeing a part of a compound kanji in another word and thinking, "oh, I know that one!" only for me to realize it was only the first half of another word. If I'd gone slower and learned only, say, 10 or 20 new vocab a day with the JP1K deck, I think these issues would've been exacerbated less, but of course, the goal was to get through the deck at a fairly fast pace. Because the idea behind the JP1K deck is just to memorize kanji compounds as a whole (as a part of vocab), small details weren't considered too much, and so even though I didn't confuse kanji within the deck for each other, the type of conflation described above was a frequent, and extremely irritating/demotivating occurrence in immersion.
So, what did I end up doing? After doing a lot of research on different kanji/vocab learning methods, I decided to go with the old reliable. I started RRTK 8 days ago, going at a pace of 25 kanji-English keyword associations per day. It's been extremely smooth sailing. This componentization of kanji just appeals to me so much, and the confidence that I have looking at Japanese text is so much higher than it was with JP1K. There's no second-guessing, "wait, did I learn that kanji?" because I recognize components, and if there's even a single unfamiliar component in a kanji character, or I simply don't remember a story attached to it, I know I haven't learned it yet. Yes, going the RRTK route means you delay learning vocab, but I think it's 100% worth it. The kanji knowledge that you'll have built up will make memorizing vocabulary *so* much easier, and even in this ~week since starting I've experienced this multiple times.
Another benefit of going through RRTK is being able to recognize the meaning of kanji-based words that you haven't learned yet. For example, I saw 消火器 on Reddit the other day, and I learned "extinguish", "fire", and "utensil" through RRTK, so I was immediately able to piece together that this was the kanji for fire extinguisher. That feeling was incredible. If I'd continued with JP1K, even if I'd seen words with each of the kanji in it, because I didn't learn the individual kanji meanings, that type of deduction wouldn't have occurred. Or at least, it would've taken me much longer to reach that point.
Would just like to say that I really appreciate this channel. You're not afraid to experiment with ways to increase the efficiency of your learning, and I respect that. My goal right now is to finish RRTK and get through Genki I/II (doing two lessons per day, just making Anki cards on the topics discussed) by mid-January. At that point I'm planning on going through the Tango N5 + N4 decks at a rate of 25 cards/day, and whenever I start Tango N4 I'll start doing sentence mining since I should have a decent vocabulary base.
All in all, I like what the JP1K deck tries to accomplish, and I think your idea of speedrunning through it to get the most out of immersion ASAP is a good one. I think for someone like me, though, building a solid kanji base and then jumping into vocab will increase my chances of not giving up out of frustration (lol).
Also, I know this comment is already incredibly long, but I'm curious as to what your thoughts on The Doth's road to fluency are. Essentially, by reading visual novels and other difficult media, he was able to achieve N1 from zero in "~500 days". Good luck on your journey man, I'll be watching!
@@mannyw_ I read through your entire comment :D, so I'll make comments now on a little of both!
I applaud you for trying! I love to hear the feedback and the experience others have gone through for this absurd little method. After all, motivation and enjoyment of a language needs to be there or else there's no point in really continuing as chances are extremely low of achieving a high level with no motivation (I've really never hear of many cases).
On the basis of the deck, I think this method exacerbates whatever problem you may see in a deck, so in this case, I think it elevated the levels of the flaws in the jp1k. I believe if you had gotten the jp1k deck 1.0 , there were a lot of flaws on it, though, they did come out with a newer one so I'm not sure whether that may or may not help some. (maybe, maybe not).
On the method, it's definitely an extreme way in going about things. It's possible (I still think) to do it with any deck out there but you need to have a lot of time on your hands and the motivation to plow through a deck at such a pace or else burnout will ensue :d. The flaw in it is the time aspect and even memorization aspect... I'm still not entirely sure how strong the retention of the memories made while doing it are and doing it with random kanji you've never studied before may or may not even work.
On Rrtk, or rtk, I think it totally depends on how you like learning the kanji. I actually started with something like rtk except it was based off of heavy usage of mnemonics and making mnemonics of every single kanji you come across, kinda the basis of the Fluent Forever method by Gabriel Wyner. It really worked for me and I did enjoy making mnemonics, but I did eventually get tired of it and ended up where I am now xd. I can't comment on rrtk as I haven't gone through it, but I hear both the goods and the bads and I agree a little bit with both sides. I feel you can do rrtk and vocab at the same time and achieve a nice little balance.
On Doth... I haven't actually heard anything about it but I'll have to go check it out! If it's based off of reading VN's and difficult media, then on that basis... that's exactly what I'm doing right now lol. I don't differentiate between using media whether it's hard or whether it's easy, I just go through it and I think if that appeals to someone, them they should do it. Me, personally, it's these levels of media that pushed me to learn the language so I figure why not use them to learn xD.
@@Jarods_Journey Yeah, what you said about the method exacerbating any problems the deck already had is 100% true. I also think you’re right in saying that doing RRTK and vocab at the same time might be the move. The Doth is a guy who progressed in Japanese extremely quickly essentially by building a reasonable base and then just playing through a ton of visual novels, as well as reading and watching Japanese shows, of course. There are some interviews with him and he made a popular Reddit post as well.
@@mannyw_ I took a look at one of the interviews and honestly, seems like a chill way of doing things. Tbh, Anki really only is about 10-20% of my study time and the rest is spent doing other things (though not as active as I would like). The Doth seems like a pretty cool dude, and I love seeing people who have progressed using the entertainment method of learning through harder material. Makes me seem less crazy XD
Hi. I was wondering if your view on this method has changed or more or less stayed the same over the past year or so. Have you done another similar attempt at front-loading cards?
My view has stayed generally the same, I still think it may be more efficient and effective to kickstart initial comprehension. The only problem I see is burning out and not being able to properly remember everything you review which is something that can occur. I haven't done another attempt and my reason for that is because I'm slowly trying to move away from anki
Interesting experiment and it seems to make lots of sense for someone in your place(as in how much you know japanese already)
I just started my journey today and it went like this
20 new cards = 35'
For me to learn 200(if I could deal with the frustration) would mean 5h to learn it
I could see myself doing that 1 day but tackling those reviews next day and new cards? Hell no lol. 400 cards where basically I know 0 would be impossible for my IQ at least haha.
I see your point though. My idea is to try 50/100 and see how it goes but knowing 0 kanji I doubt it goes well
From the feedback I've seen, it definitely is harder in the beginning, but not impossible. However, the thing is that your still spending 5+ hours on Anki which... Is extremely tiresome and boring. I personally do 15 right now and think it's a good balance haha.
Though, good luck and welcome to the journey!
@@Jarods_Journey I've been thinking and I will do this but as "mini-sprints".
20/50 cards a day for 3/5 days, consolidate them, repeat.
I will be using Migaku's kanji god add-on meanwhile and that way I can consolidate the vocab knowledge and the kanji within it.
Will prob come back haha
@@MuEnViFitness I like to think of it as interval training, sprint on, wall off and you do it for a week or so. Wish ya the best, let us know what happens!
I hear only good things from migaku so solid tool!
I may want to try this out, is it possible to do it if I already have started the deck? I have like 300 mature and 400 young so 700 in the 2k-6k core.
Yeah doesn't really matter what stage your in, the con epts still apply. Just beware, the amount of reviews you'll be doing is a crazy amount!
I was trying to configurate my anki but I set just 1 or 5 reviews only and 250 new cards still showing me a lot of reviews when I click again, what I can do just to see new cards?
A few of things:
- You should try your best to always get your reviews done instead of new cards. Reviews are much more important than new cards because if you don't do them, you'll forget them and lose your progress.
- With that being said, if you just want new cards, instead of setting your reviews to 1-5, move all of your"review" cards to a custom study deck, and then just review the new cards. Note: every new cards needs to be reviewed twice as good before you don't see it again.
- I don't recommend you change the settings unless you understand how it may affect your efficiency. I recommend reading about it on the refold site for the best settings at refold.la . Once configured, then you can change your new card count to 250, and then I would increase your reviews to the amount of cards in your deck
Did you keep it up? Did it work?
hiii!! as of today im doing only 12 new cards per day, I already finished the refold jpv2 though. Do you still recommend to set my new cards 200 per day? I still have other decks like core 2k/6k, rtk, and my own deck. do you recommend setting my deck especially the 2k/6k to 200 per day?
You can try it to see how it works! My recommendations are that you only do it for 5 days MAX, then lay off of new reviews for a couple of weeks. You can then gauge how well this strategy is working for you. Also, I really wouldn't recommend too many decks, since you've already finished the jp1k v2, I think you would be fine to gain vocabulary through sentence mining. You don't wanna spend more time in Anki than you do consuming media in the language
@@Jarods_Journey well, I don't have any gadgets that can't keep up with immersion and also I'm too lazy because my current laptop can't keep up with active immersion (playing anime and anki along with other software ) (if you add chrome, also my laptop is 4 years old. specification: 4gb ram, intel celeron, and 500 gb hdd) that's why I have too many decks to make up for my lack of immersion. but I still do immersion, especially passive immersion and I also have manga for active immersion. Well anyway, I'm going to try 200 thanks!
@@user-bt2ki9kt7v As long as you have active immersion in there somewhere, that'll help a lot. Wish you the best!
So one year out how do you feel about this methodology? Do you still think it holds true or do you think that we are much better off at learning in smaller intervals such as say 20 cards per day or 15 cards per day? I'm not a complete beginner but I gave up on Anki after my reviews piled up and I'm looking to get back into it.
My view has shifted a little, but not too much. I think its easier to do this as a beginner as it sets a tangible goal for you from nearly zero, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend this once your over 2k words or have been mining extensively and actively immersing. There comes a point at which I think just consuming Japanese is the better option because it's simply just more fun and enjoyable. Personally, I don't think Anki is even necessary, but I keep it up since it's a tangible number I can look at day-to-day. My daily new is set to 25 ATM, only for my mining deck
@@Jarods_Journey Interesting. I am assuming that you are spending most of your time reading in terms of your immersion content wherein you look up words and add them to your mining deck?
@@eizenga71 Yup, pretty much summed it up right there haha! That's all there really is to it, find interesting content, consume it, look-up unknown things, and carry onwards!
Screw it, I'm pentriplaling down and doing 1000 new cards per day for a deck that has 1100 new cards available.
Yeesh well I wish ya the best of luck! See you on the other side!
I like this concept. I was looking through the internet for people doing this kind of studying. Just think about it. So, many people cram right before a test and are able to retain all that information they crammed 1 or 2 days before the test. Now, imagine if you crammed at the beginning of the year, and just lightly reviewed everyday until the test. You would remember, learn, and retain so much more information and it will be a lot more stressful. I also just started doing 50 cards a day on the 2k6k deck for the next 100 days.
its been 3 months, curious to see your results
can you share how u memorize them.
how do you manage to learn all these in one day anyway? i spend hours trying to remember 10 cards and only get 6 max :/
Well, my little disclaimer is that I had been learning Japanese previously before starting the deck I did. However, with that said, I built little mnemonics to remember the kanji that I didn't know and just kept grinding through those. I didnt spend too long on any particular card as I hitting again 3-4 times in the beginning was fine for me as I knew retention would be low (since learning so many). It took 4+ hours in the beginning so the front load work was intense, but pays off if it can be done.
How is your study regimen? If your goal is for retention, you need to be doing immersion as soon as possible so you can start attributing memories and meaning to the words you see in anki
I currently am using the core 2k/6k deck on anki which has 6000 words in it. I know ~850 and am taking 15 new cards a day. Would you recommend increasing them to an amount in the 100's like you did or a smaller amount?
I definetely don't recommend it for sanity's sake, but I think it's a way to be more efficient. Note I only did this up until I hit 1k new cards, if you want to do something similar, it's kind of an all or nothing thing so I would do like 100-200 for 5 days and then set it down to zero to catch up on reviews. But 15 is fine too imo.
@@Jarods_Journey okay thank you, I'll definitely try 100-200 over summer break or whenever I have a lot of free time!
@@Graciepoopy haha wish ya luck! Let us know what happens, if you join the discord, there's always a core group of us who are pretty active to talk about learning Japanese lol
Do think this method will work for decks 3k cards and under?
Mmph, I wouldn't recommend doing more than 1000 cards per cycle. I would do it for 1000 three times. Doing it all the way through will be way too much at the end to keep up with
8:30 it is difficult, I guess. A beginner who never used Anki before is learning how Anki works while studying new cards, getting used with the language.
I do 30 cards per day.
But once they get familiar with it, would it be then possible and beneficial to do something like this? I haven't seen much Anecdotal evidence for or against it with beginners.
@V O I knew there was something in the medical field, but it's really interesting you bring it up! I had actually seen something like this a few days ago and was thinking how applicable it could be towards language learning. I guess it's a different subject but I think our goals are generally the same: just trying to remember a lot of things, very fast, and very well. If it pays off in the medical field, I wonder how well it'll do in the language learning Anki community
@@Jarods_Journey Now you do...
Fuck it, let's do it
That's the attitude :)! 🤜🤛
I'll try it. Dattebayo!
This works
I am doing 100 a day and drown in reviews it started to feel like a chore.
My recall is probably 80/100. I can do 100% recall if i review the newly learned words few hours later.
Yeah this is the only problem is that the reviews become huge. I only recommend you do this for a few days so that eventually the reviews go down again
@@Jarods_Journey today i pushed 160 words 😂. I wanted to be done with the deck once and for all. Tomorrow is thr final level of reviews. Gonna take at least 3 hours to so my reviews tomorrow and reinforce the forgotten cards.
I am doing active recall by the way.
@@zombiedeutsch ayye well good luck on the final push! The key is to continue on and reinforce everything you went through!
200 cards a day! I wish! I've got a full-time job to attend to. I work 7 days a week.
😂 you don't catch me doing this much Anki anymore, you need a lot of free time to be doing this lol
Hmm... Maybe I could just go through all the vocab in an anime episode and then immerse in it while I'm not adding new cards until it eases up and then go to then next episode...
You could, but one important factor is novelty as well. You don't want to let boredom kill your motivation so while it's totally possible, IF you wanna do it this way maybe do it for one episode, but give the others a watch as well
@@Jarods_Journey I would probably passively immerse a lot while doing other things and actively go through it once I have gone through all the cards.
At the moment I am going over a deck I made with Yomichan of words in dictionary definitions I couldn't understand and I am going through them ten a day.
Slow but steady progress!
@@Sashin9000 As long as your moving along, that's what counts xD! Well, wish ya the best in it! If you ever have any questions, hop in the discord as well!
The language learning mantra these days is immersion immersion immersion. If you look at Livakivi’s RUclips for the first year or whatever he minimal immersion and focused on Anki and Duolingo. He argued successfully that immersion is not useful if you’re a beginner since you can’t understand anything. He didn’t do high reps of Anki like you’re doing but I think Anki and Duolingo are similar in that they’re not immersion. I hate Duolingo so I’m trying what you’re doing with Korean. I don’t expect to keep adding 100+ cards per day forever as reviews will add up (my deck doesn’t top out at 1000) but I’m basically using the vast majority of my study time for Anki. It feels much better than immersion for now.
I agree with a lot of that! Immersion is such a broad term and I really think people use it as a blanket statement for so many different things, it's overused. My experience is similar in that blindly listening and consuming the language without "studying" it results in way slower growth... Esp in the beginning. There has to be an active component to the immersion in order to actually get anything out of it and this is where Anki falls in place for a lot of people.
Extensive lookups and repetition while watching or consuming can take the place of Anki... But most people (including myself) really hate doing this and will have to just consume without understanding.
This is why I'm such a big fan of reading nowadays, it's almost all active immersion.
i was doing 50 per day in 1.3 hours approx, i'll try the 200 a day, think i can handle it.
What
Doing anything more than 100 cards per day is physically impossible for me 😅
I bawk at anything more than 50 nowadays😂. Anki is a rough pill to swallow but can be pretty efficient, I give it that
Yeah so im gonna try this for 14 days doing 200 new cards a day
Lol you might not want to, you'll be at like 2000+ reviews by day 14
I used to do around 300 new cards a day and I burnt out when my reviews started getting to 800 per day I do not recommend that; I am still experiencing some issues from that.
200 isn't bad though I choose to do 100 personally (from mental fatigue)
Lol this is pretty ambitious, but I applaud you for still keeping it up. I don't think this is possible to do for any long period of time, but if you do intervals or bursts, and can keep up with it, I can see eit being useful
My problem with this idea is that it treats finishing a deck like its some kind of objective to complete a video game, when that isn't really what Anki is useful for. e.g. Rushing through all of Core2K doesn't equate to someone knowing all 2000 words because they repped them a few times and saw a single English definition. Anki's goal when learning language is to help solidify a piece of information that you are already familiarizing yourself with in immersion. It sounds nice on paper that your reviews will quickly taper off but is that really what you want in the first place? It can be said that you have more time for immersion but it isn't as if it takes long to do reviews for 30-50 cards a day in the first place. The average djt user from what I've seen has an answer time of like 3-4 seconds per vocab card with 90-95% retention, which is no time at all for getting through even several hundred reviews.
I just can't see the benefit of rushing through a premade deck doing it half-baked, when you could just do a fraction of those cards well and then not need to likely re-mine them later on when you inevitably forget them due to relying too much on short-term memory as opposed to building long-term memory instead. Not to mention that these core vocab decks like JP1K, Core 2/2.3/3/6K, Tango, etc, that "teach'" you the x-number of most common vocabulary cards aren't meant to be done in isolation in the first place, and instead are meant to accompany the active immersion that someone getting into learning a language is doing from the get-go, otherwise they're completely superfluous because the information isn't being anchored to anything you're being exposed to besides Anki.
I appreciate the comment and sorry in the response delay. I have points that I both disagree and agree upon that you laid out.
Based on what you wrote, from the way I understand it, this sounds more like a critque of premade decks (which I'm not against at all) instead of a critque on doing lots of anki cards per day. That is a slightly different discussion. If the average DJT user can run through 30-50 cards per day at 3-4 seconds with 90-95% retention rate, this already sounds like an experienced anki user which I'm sure most of the DJT community is. There's already a feedback loop of immersion into anki and vice versa. Now what if they bumped it up to 200? If they are using mined cards, this may not work since mining 200 cards per day is a little bit excessive, but what IF? That IF is what this video proposed.
The point of the video was to more or less discuss IF front loading cards is more effective than spacing it out over time, mainly for a beginner. I don't think I explicitly stated it, but anyone doing Jp1k or similar most likely just started or is getting their feet into anki/the language. In general, the goal of the Jp1k or even core 2k deck is NOT to "learn" the words, but to be exposed to them. It's to prepare the learner for immersion content while they get into reading and watching. Now, is it better to run through all of the cards in less than a week or spread it out over a longer period of time? This is what I don't know and which is why I proposed it. I believe that language learning in general benefits much more from high intensity work in the beginning instead of spacing it overtime. The faster you get "better," the more you can immerse etc. etc. and it only compounds from there.
I did make the point that you might not have time in the first 5 days for active immersion if you are doing 200 cards per day, but that would be temporary. The biggest point made here wasn't that you'd be studying in isolation, but in tangent with immersion to better "solidify" words into memory. Content that goes over your head is more superfluous in nature than something that you recognize. I believe there is plenty of immersion content to consume in order to reduce this superfluous nature in which you spoke of, which should follow after finishing the deck. Like I said, the biggest negative here is time. If you only do anki and don't leave time for immersion, it's basically gg.
If you read through all this, I appreciate it. I like hearing other opinions on this matter and it makes things all the more interesting.
I think it might be more enjoyable to spend the same time reading. Especially for common words, they're going to show up many times in a short span, you don't need flash cards.
imo flashcards are just what we do when we can't think of any other way to study. it results in pretty ephemeral knowledge, but I understand if you just want to prime yourself for understanding dialogue on TV and don't like reading it may be your best bet. But if that's the case, might as well ignore kanji and just use audio cards. personally I think in such a system you should suspend any card older than a month, you either know it from outside context or you're going to lose it and waste time on it.
I do agree with the sentiment that it's more enjoyable to read, it 100% is. However, this video is more of a discussion about Anki efficiency rather than method efficiency; if you were already going to do a pre-made Anki deck, perhaps 200 is better than 20.
I'm not advocating for Anki only learning, but here are my thoughts:
On the topic of effectiveness, let's say I'm a beginner who can barely read the Kana. Let's assume I can read at 1000 characters per hour (which is pretty high at the start imo) and I recognize words after the 7th occurance. The odds of coming across each word over the same time period seems pretty slim to me, so I feel the Anki deck (if curated well enough) proves more time efficient in this case.
Now assume I have attained a higher level, I can read around 5-6k characters per hour (this is the rate that I currently read at, still using look-ups). I have much more of a chance to come across these same words over again than said beginner. As well, it makes reading much more enjoyable as I can proceed at a tolerable pace.
I believe there's a time and place for all of these different strategies, and depending on stage, one may be more effective than the other. Anki won't get you fluent like reading will, but may prove to be very beneficial to speed things up.
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Take it as you will, you're free to interpret the video however you want :)!