Kiln Dried Vs Air Dried: Dispelling A Wood Drying Myth!
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I appreciate that we can count on a new video from you every few days. You’re like a friend I look forward to seeing.
Seeing our trees all bloomed out was refreshing. We just got our first significant snow event of 2024. It'll be a while for the flowers.
Thanks Nathan and it is always good to see your Dad in your videos 👍
You bet
As a guy with a degree in Wood Products Engineering, I feel you did a great job in telling folks about the limits of air drying. If one lived in Southern Arizona, N. Mexico, etc, air drying could get you a lower moisture content but for every area of the country, there's a limit as to how dry air drying can possible get you, no matter how many more months or even years you leave the lumber under cover. The old 1 year for every inch of thickness does apply to our slowest drying species, the various white oaks. So I assume they used to apply that rule to almost every species just as an easy rule of thumb. Plus as I'm sure you know, there are dry kiln schedules that were developed many years ago for every common species and the thickness at hand. Trying to force the process with extreme conditions just results in ruined lumber. I bet you turn out some beautiful stuff. Black cherry a real favorite of mine.
Appreciate it
Good to see Mr. Kato being busy, not just Mrs. Kato. I enjoy watching the different aspects of your daily work.
Thanks for the refresher course on how to properly dry hardwood Nathan. Yes Sir Robert had a very impressive operation but OTW is my favorite channel I’m proud to be a Patreon member of. 🤠🇺🇸
You bet
Love the trees in blossom.
Thank you for all of the information. Always treating us like family. Cousins, perhaps.....
Our pleasure!
I like the kiln. We sell all our lumber green or air dried. I sold the big mill to my son and we built him a nicer building with concrete floor but he lacks under roof space to store out going lumber. He covers some stacks with metal roofing but we screwed it to pallets so that he could cover/uncover the lumber with the loader. Works great. Thanks for the video.
Love work. I can watch it for hours. Love your videos.
Spring is here.
Over here in Northern Europe the days are getting longer and the sun is finally starting to warm. Sure is nice.
Nathan, you're an excellent teacher. Thank you for taking us along on the many aspects of your life. God bless and take care. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
I really like learning all kinds of things. I may never need this, but it is fascinating.
I'm about to make the plunge into the sawmill/kiln world. It will just be a hobby sized operation, but I have trees and time to make it happen. Most of my initial projects are out-buildings, but I also plan to start doing some fine woodworking in my shop. I found out I have quite a bit of Black Walnut on my property and that's what has pushed me over the edge to get the sawmill and kiln. I'll be watching more of your older content to learn as much as I can. Thanks for putting out very informative videos.
Good luck sir
Great shoutout to Baldor. My son is an Electrical Engineer for Baldor.
Nice 👍
There's a Baldor plant near my house.
Enjoyed that Nathan, thank you, take care
Thanks 👍
3 years ! Wow remember it being built 😊
Thanks Nathan for another great video. You’ve got a nicely set up mill there!👍❤️
Thanks 👍
nice seeing the trees there in blossom
Very nice clear explanation of how you work your kiln Nathan. Cheers, Don from South Australia.
Nice to see the Elliotts working together. We have a lot of Elliotts in the north of England.
You ever notice just how loud tin is when moving it.
Hi Nathan, I always enjoy your music track and content. Looking forward to your upcoming building project.
Man thats a nice setup!
Hey alright 👍
Thanks for sharing all that information on air drying and Kiln drying. Looks like you will have lots of kiln dried lumber before long. Stay safe up there and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Thanking you again for a very good video, that teaches us all about timber drying. Sadly I cannot afford to get into sawing, curing and finishing my own timber. Or I would go back to my furniture making trade I mastered as an apprentice. Good video and again thank you, keep safe and enjoy the Easter holiday!
Good video 👍 The 1st kiln I worked in was an end door loading kiln which meant you had to carry every board in by hand 😡 Don't miss that thing at all. Held 4,000-4,500 board foot. Took 35 to 40 days to dry 8/4 oak.
hello Nathan & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Nathan & Friends Randy
Thank you for the walk through on the kiln.
You bet!
Almost 60 here in Ky.
As always thanks for the wonderful message, god bless
You are so welcome
An advantage in having 'Mr. Kato' tracked, instead of wheeled, is that there'd be less bounce, in transporting the stickered lifts, to upset the stacking.
Yes sir
Thanks for sharing.
You bet
Springtime surely does make the Elliot homestead look beautiful !
CFM = Cubic Feet per Minute, so yes you are correct.
If the humility in the timber frame is not climate controlled, what prevents the stored lumber from acquiring moisture from ambient relative humidity ❓
Once it's kiln dried, if you store it in an unconditioned building or outside, will it go back up to 15 - 18%? Does it become susceptible to bugs again?
I think “eventually” the moisture will go back up to ambient air levels, but it should be sold long before a significant rise. Plus there might even be some chemical change during kiln drying that affects moisture - ambient is unlikely to reverse this.
hi there nice work and a lot as well moving wood . best to all john
Yes, thanks
Good to see your Dad out helping, when you take your stickers off the stacks do you store them in a building or outside under a cover or does it matter? John
thx
Nice setup you got now buddy
Yeah thanks
The old rule was due to the tighter grain of the wood bring harvested 150 -100 years ago. The tighter the annual growth, the longer the needed drying time
You just mentioned you could go to 150 degrees?, well you might be able to have a little sideline for your Kiln..... You could use it to cook matrasses and bedding from bedbug contaminations, they need 48 hours to die!
Thanks for the information Nathan. Stay safe.
My lumber in holland dries to like 13-15 air dry.
Glad you put it into numbers. Math makes it universal. +1
When Nathan determined it was too rainy, to go sawmilling (before he grew his beard): ruclips.net/video/TqmV_BzTuq0/видео.htmlsi=AzmM3LinFhURYMd3
Nathan what is your thoughts on solar kilns
I remember when you built the kiln
Nathan !where is your hat out in that sun?
I thought 133 was really high to sterilise but then I remembered you are in Fahrenheit
Glad you got the lumber stacked off of your out feed table and got it out of your way. The cherry lumber you showed looks like you have some nice stuff with that. Was it some of the stuff you are handling for a customer as in they are paying you to cut and dry it for them?
Cherry belongs to customer
Are you ever tempted to set a box of firewood in the kiln with the lumber to see how dry it will get?
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Will freezing dry lumber faster, slower or the same as heat in a kiln.
The work is never done.
How many other viewers began checking their device's audio connection @10:30 wondering if they had an audio problem?
Does your kiln just circulate heated air over the lumber?
Is there a dehumidifier attached to kiln as well?
I am not sure how humid the air gets in your area but if the humidity is very high (say over 90%) the lumber will dry very slowly.
At 100% humidity the lumber can absorb humidity from the air.
Very dry air in your area
Is that kiln heated by gas or electric? What do you estimate for the cost of drying that approx 1200 bf? As always your videos got me wondering and dreaming about lumber.
I thought the one inch per year was for whole logs?
looking good my man, hey if you put the dryed timber on a pallet, you could buy a pallet truck and move it around the shop and make the space when you need it, or feed it to mr Kato if you need to put it outside on a sunny day! you're welcome. greetings from the alps!
Evening from Finland 👋🙂 your videos are very good 👍
What is the approximate cost to dry that load of lumber Just nosy
Nathan ? Can you reuse stickers a second time after they have been through a drying process in the wood kiln ?
Yes
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So what is your electric cost for a load like this?
👍
can you do 16' plus a few inches in the kiln
Yes
Maybe a dumb question but, can wood reabsorb moisture once it is out of the kiln?
Yes sir.
How old is your Dad? He seems really energetic.
You need to tell talk to Mike of out doors with the Morgans about a kiln.He is going to get one and thinking about a place to put the wooI look at both of y'all channels and enjoy them. He can also help you with that excavator.
I don't need any help with my Excavator, he is the last person I would ask for advice,
What do the baffles do?
direct the air flow
@@OutoftheWoods0623 thanks for the reply!
A few dings on the interior of kiln doors ?❓
Fed ex shipping did that
@@OutoftheWoods0623 That does not surprise me, they are rough handling employees
I would have parked the forks closer so you could slide the boards off vs lifting.😊 Love your videos and keep up the great work. Oh do you know anyone in SE Kansas that has a portable mill that would saw a Pecan that I dropped? It has a beautiful triple crotch and clear to the butt. I would say about 20+ foot long. Thanks 😊