Kurt Angle: Yeah I know you want Samoa Joe, but I want Mojo Rawley AND... Zack Rider... that´s the only way this seems fair!!! LOL Luke that was the Best line in all the video!!! You made my day!!!
Lorn Vithia do you expect these three tag teams to carry the division for next 1 year. And matt-wyatt tag team will no longer exist. Bray will turn on matt. Breezango, Ziggler/mcintyre Revival Aop Heath slater/rhyno. Nah bruh. Smackdown has better undoubtedly
Farian Alvi SD is better for sure but Raw isnt dead AOP will be the main team! America Alpha will reunite! Revival vs AA feud will resurgence Revival! There are KO and Sami as well! If Uso join Raw that would balance the division
Lorn Vithia sami and kevin won't last as a tag team. One of them will turn face. Aop is a good team. But wwe creatives are good at screwing nxt call ups. So,I hope where I'm indicating. The only thing that can save raw tag team division is the tag team of ziggler-mcintyre.
WrestleTalk Hey Oli, I want you to think of this possible Scenario of Asuka Trying to accept the fact that Charlotte broke her Streak & that's she came back as the same Asuka. But Eventually, she can't Accept that & she turns Heel on Charlotte down the line.
It wouldn't really effect anything or matter because going forward all PPV events are co-branded so Raw and Smackdown stars are on the same show every month.
That's what I am saying. Styles,joe,nakamura,hardy,bryan,orton,miz,almas. All these guys can take smackdown to the top for one long year. Even if they use rusev and big cass as mid cards,smackdown will still be better. Look at the tag team division. The bar,usos,new day,sanity,bludgeon brothers,gallows/anderson. Damn. Charolette,becky,asuka,carmella,naomi,peyton royce. All quality superstars. People weren't invested in jinder mahal and baron corbin. Since,corbin is getting a push,we might see feud of roman and corbin/ strowman and corbin. That'd be awful for sure. And they won't let ziggler and mcintyre to be in the universal title picture. The tag team might get raw tag titles,or mcintyre might get the ic title. That's it. And even if there's a better plan,they'll take 4/5 months to execute it. The only good things left on raw are bray wyatt,roman,hardy,rollins,strowman and ziggler-mcintyre (as a tag team). Yeah,I haven't mentioned finn bluer,because they haven't given him much of a character. And yeah,I agree with oli. "Smackdown has lost quantity,but gained quality"
Yeah, I think SaNity will feud with the New Day because both factions have 3 guys & of course, they would want SaNity to fight together as a 3 man faction.
SmackDown got the best wrestlers. Asuka, Absolution, Andrade Cien Almas, Big Cass, Samoa Joe, Sanity, The Bar and The Miz On SmackDown, Andrade can’t end up on 205 Live and imagine all the dream matches that can occur with the above wrestlers
Big cass best wrestler nah , absolution Nah , Joe great , Almas very good , Raw Main eventers still better overall then SD , but Sd midcard and women division , tag division better then raw
NickBD my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy Tye Hardy & Jeff Hardy call them The New Hardyz Boyz was planned.
Ryan Garbett I'm thinking my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy Call it The New Hardyz Boyz was planned
I see IC title coming to Smackdown, as they wanted Miz to be longest combined Reigning Champion, so i speculate miz winning at GRR & Hardy dropping title back to jinder
The top stars of SDLive are Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Nakamura, Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe, The Miz. That's just main event lol. The mid-card is stacked lol RAW completely SUCKS
Boy123Jim yeah it's weird, Vince has always put Raw first and now he's moved all these great talent to SmackDown while taking the bottom barrel ones from there to Raw. Either Vince is going to finally let SmackDown be the wrestling show again and Raw be the "Sports and Entertainment" or whatever word he's using now show or he's trying to really build SmackDown up.
For the Miz and Daniel Bryan storyline, I would book The Miz to win the money in the bank ladder match which is after Backlash and wait to cash in the briefcase when Daniel wins the title at Summerslam which would make the Miz a crazy heel then you can run a storyline to another one of the big pay per views
Jeff actually adresses changing the way he does the swanton bomb on the edge and christian podcast. Simply put he stopped giving a f*** about the guy taking it. :D
Brian Farrell ok then why put it up for an open challenge during the shake-up? He knew that Jeff could have come out, won and took the belt to smackdown. It's dumb
Christopher Lange nah I think I'll be my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy The New Hardyz Boyz was planned.
Great podcast as always, guys! 💯💯👌 By the way, Jeff actually talked about how he doesn't "control" his swanton bombs (and its landings) any more on the last episode of E&C's pod of awesomeness! Highly recommend to listen to it! It was hilarious! 😂
Gabriel Ventura I think R truth join new day and my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy Call it The New Hardyz Boyz was planned
i love jeff hardy. the whisper in the winds, twist of fate, swanton bombs, the nutcracker... he has a way of stealing the show. he is the charismatic egnema.
Jeff recently talked about the way he currently does his Swanton Bomb on Edge and Christian's Podcast. He used to do the graceful "ninja roll" to prevent hurting his opponents, but eventually ended up cracking his tailbone or something doing so. Ever since then, he decided to simply crush dudes: "I gotta take care of me before I take care of you."
Just something I noticed & glad Luke mentioned it: I too thought I heard the crowd chanting "Y2J" during the Charlotte v. Billie Kay match, which I thought was oddly random. After I paused my Tivo recording and played it back a few times, I believe it was a "Billie Kay" chant that was coming across strange or picked up weird by the audio. Since I wasn't there in person, I'm not sure of this 100%, but just wanted to see if anyone else knew for sure, as after listening to the replay I was sure I heard the appropriate chant instead. I thought it was just a weird thing I experienced, but glad to know I wasn't the only one.
Jeff Hardy talked about the "new" Swanton Bomb on the Edge & Christian Podcast 2 or 3 weeks ago. He said he used to land to protect his opponents, but it did damage to his lower back & his coccyx over the years, so now he protects himself
Smackdown has the better Main event superstars and a much better Womens division. We have got good rosters this time but lets hope WWE is lot better than 2017. #SWAFTnation
For me women's division is far more even maybe Raw is better. I'd take Sasha, Bayley, Nia, Rousey, Alexa, Ember Moon thats a solid top 6 after Charlotte, Becky and Asuka doesn't look as good.
That's kinda my point on paper Raw has a better roster on SD after big 3 then Naomi it's a little thin. Your right SD might end up being better but in terms of names Raw is ahead.
Brian Harrison bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy Call it The New Hardyz Boyz and new Hardyz for tag team champions
So the three things I'm hoping coming out of this smack down for the next few months would be , have Cass go into the mid card as one of the top mid card heels . Have miz move into top heel status fighting for the wwe title . And this could be the chance to have Rusev turn face .
Jeff talked about Landing the Swanton bombs on the e&c Pod of Awesomeness, and he said he's now out to protect himself instead of others because his body is taking so much damage. So a lot of the Swanton bombs are going to be crazy hard.
I actually believe a Big Cass/Daniel Bryan feud to start for both guys coming back from injury is a good thing. It's beneficial to Bryan to have a feud with someone with a limited skill set right away to allow for short matches to acclimate him in the WWE since he was gone for 3 years. And it helps Cass become a proper heel to beat up the top babyface. It helps both and given that Miz promo on Bryan and the announced matches at UK house shows between the two, I don't think this is a long feud, just something for both to do to help them get back in the swing of things.
I was quite pleased to see most of who Smackdown were able to get from Raw the one thing that really surprised me was that Randy Orton wasn't traded. He's been on Smackdown for quite a while now and there were reports that he was unhappy on Smackdown. He's also been wanting to turn heel for a long time. So I thought that he would've been traded to Raw to give him a fresh start. In return I expected someone like Fin Balor to be traded to Smackdown.
Luke, listen to the E&C podcast with Matt and Jeff, he talks about how he used to control the swanton and now he just protects himself. They call it the "world championship" swanton because he started doing it that way for his first title win.
I’m loving Smackdown and I like how Cass feels like a big deal Jeff is a great choice and Joe vs Aj is a match I want to see. Almas is just a incredible move.
Jeff Hardy said on the E&C podcast that he doesn't try to "soften" the Swanton Bomb anymore because he got hurt doing so once and it took months until he felt normal again.
The best I can tell the trades were as follows: 1) Miz for Jinder & Sunil, 2) Jeff for Ryder & Rawley, 3) Absolution for Riott Squad, 4) Joe for Roode & Ziggler, 5) Cass for Corbin, 6) Asuka for Natalya, 7) Good Brothers for Breezango & Ascension, 8) The Bar for Gable, Owens & Zayn, 9) R-Truth for Mike Kanellis. Raw called up: 1) Drew McIntyre, 2) Ember Moon, 3) Authors of Pain, 4) No Way Jose. Smackdown called up: 1) Andrade & Zelina, 2) IIconics, 3) Sanity. Raw also got Lashley to make up some of the talent gap.
I think Big Cass will become the Braun Strowman of SmackDown, where everyone hates him at first, then they grow to like his act when he really gets to shine.
I find it funny how they overlooked the fact that Joe could take the IC and Universal Titles to Smackdown (if he were to win at GRR and Backlash), they knew that The Bar switching brands would mean Matt and Bray win the Raw tag titles, but didn't take into account that Jeff could lose the US Title to Jinder who is now on Raw. but then again Randy is the #1 contender so I guess that says the title ain't going anywhere lol. also I find it funny how Joe never mentioned Jeff and the US title during his promo. a side note I would absolutely LOVE to see another Hardy/Orton feud. they could build on some past things if they truly thought about it, or pull some new things that would give the feud more depth to it. lead it all up to a US Title Ladder Match at Extreme Rules. BOOK IT VINCE!
I'm really excited for both brands. Smackdown is obviously going to be better with Miz and Bryan at the top, but I think Raw is gona surprise us. The lower stars will get that Raw creative and extra time to really starbuild. I am hoping for some more Brauns.
Surprisingly, the only one I'm going to miss from Smackdown the most is Chad Gable. He's an amazing talent, who if pushed and given some time could be really really good.
Listen to the e&c podcast, interview with hardys, jeff talks about how hes changed his Swanton landing. He looks after himself more in the landing than he used to
Jeff referenced him fully landing on guys with the swanton on Edge and Christian podcast, it's a good listen in, if you have a spare hour or two, would recommend listening. 👌
Vince is high on Corbin, so he'll most likely be booked much better now. Roode just needs to turn heel and go back to his NXT persona. Jinder will keep improving by having matches with Balor, Rollins, Hardy and so on. Precisely Seth and Finn are perfect surrounding the main event. Lashley is more explosive than Lesnar and his matches with Reigns and Strowman will be something worth seeing. Ziggler/McIntyre and Owens/Zayn are great additions to the tag team division and for the upper midcard whenever they split up, same goes for Wyatt and Hardy. Breezango can be a nice surprise and perhaps the Ascension could have a better chance at redeeming themselves later on this year when all those other teams eventually break up.
Maybe WrestleTalk should keep a track of which show was better week over week and see as to which brand wins towards the end of next year's Wrestlemania. Could be a nice thing to keep a track off. :)
I'm sort of surprised Kassius Ohno didn't debut n SmackDown, he isn't really doing anything in NXT right now apart from putting people over but i suppose he could be turning heel in NXT and going on a revitalized run of sorts. Ohno would be an awesome addition to either midcard.
Feels like they took the smackdown mid card to raw to elevate them, the top of the card is so good right now on smackdown, I can see Raw elevating some of those stagnate superstars from smackdown.
Potential Main event: AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Nakamura, Rusev, Joe, The Miz, Jeff Hardy, Dain, Cesaro and Sheamus when they break up! Mid Card: Jeff Hardy, Orton, Sin Cara, RTruth, Shelton Benjamin, Aiden English, Big Cass, Tye Dillinger, Cien Almas, Eric Young, Killain Dain, (May be Jericho), Big E Tag team: The Bar, Uso's, New Day, The Club, Bludgeon Bros, Sanity, Rusev Day Women: Charlotte, Asuka, Mandy Rose, the other absolution woman,Becky Lynch, Lana, Naomi, Carmella, Peyton Royce, the other iconic duo (sorry I forgot the name) and Zelina Vega! Even Marysse may be in the future. Authority Figure : Shane McMohan (twice a year wrestler) And Paige! For Big Cass, I believe he will be the muscle for The Miz. Might be we missed the point. Miz said he will kick DBry arse! It can be Big Cass going directly behind DBry as a proxy for Miz. As for Sanity, I can see Young and Wolfe go for tag team title and Dain for US! I have put same name in different section as those names may move around!
@WrestleTalk Jeff Hardy was on a podcast saying he used to the the senton bomb with his neck to protect the other wrestlers, but it started hurting his lower back but now that he's a veteran in the company he stopped caring for those he's crushing. 😆
The "big" names Raw got were Roode, Zayn, Owens, Mahal, Corbin, Ziggler and MacIntyre. Also Gable moving over could mean an American Alpha reunion. Aside from Roode these are all heels but they have Reigns, Strowman, Rollins, Balor, Lashley and at some point Ambrose (along with Roode) to face those heels. IMHO It makes a lot of sense. Raw is three hours so has it's key stars and a lot of filler. Smackdown is lean and mean and perfect for a 2 hour show. The other thing to take into account, Raw and Smackdown are doing joint PPV's now. So if you think about it what you have is the headliners on Raw (like it or not), the mid card on Smackdown and then the curtain jerkers and enhancement talent on Raw. In a PPV sense it makes perfect sense. What wouldn't make sense after this shake up would be single branded PPV's. Smackdown is too small for it and Raw has too much filler. Co-Branded though, it's perfect.
41:10 I do. 41:23 Could have had any of them gun for Asuka's streak. But they botched that at WM34. Instead, we got 40:48 People keep saying Asuka is boring because you know she's not going to lose. Yeah, no. She's not boring at all; she's just that much better than almost everyone else in WWE women's division. Even without the streak, I don't see anyone beating her. But, with the streak, it gives the other women more incentive to try and win, like the amazing matches Asuka and Sasha had on RAW. Nope. WWE and everyone's cynicism killed that dynamic.
Simon from whatculture made the point that Daniel wanted to work with talents that needed more air time and could use it to grow. Big Cass could be a guy he sees as that guy to work with.
From "knee to face" to "bicep to balls" 😂
Abhilash Mudgal all AJ has to do is start wearing a cup then nakamura is screwed
Awesome fair play
brett robbins Nah, can always kick him in the taint.
Bicep is too dificult to pronunciate for nakamura, so to be easier it could be arm to balls
He really does get right in there with the lowblow. This ain't no Triple H ball shot, Shin gets in deep.
Kurt Angle: Yeah I know you want Samoa Joe, but I want Mojo Rawley AND... Zack Rider... that´s the only way this seems fair!!! LOL
Luke that was the Best line in all the video!!! You made my day!!!
Diego S OMG.... Kurt and Paige didn't do shit. It's Vince and the creative team that made these moves!
David Moses Kayfabe
Admit it or not , but deep down our minds we all like when SmackDown LIVE beats RAW .
SAIBAL CLUB I agree
SAIBAL CLUB of course
i dont know why..but its damn true...
SAIBAL CLUB ya i always want to support SmackDown
Ya absolutely
i think cass should have been on drew mcyntire's role..and vice virsa...
Souravsill0077 agreed, but I'm guessing Cass will be a hired big/bodyguard for Miz, hence him attacking Bryan. Might not be so, just my theory
Rip RAW's tag team division
2016-2018
CaptainMcFlawww AOP BrayMatt DrewDolph
Lorn Vithia do you expect these three tag teams to carry the division for next 1 year.
And matt-wyatt tag team will no longer exist. Bray will turn on matt.
Breezango,
Ziggler/mcintyre
Revival
Aop
Heath slater/rhyno.
Nah bruh. Smackdown has better undoubtedly
Farian Alvi SD is better for sure but Raw isnt dead AOP will be the main team! America Alpha will reunite! Revival vs AA feud will resurgence Revival! There are KO and Sami as well! If Uso join Raw that would balance the division
Lorn Vithia sami and kevin won't last as a tag team. One of them will turn face.
Aop is a good team. But wwe creatives are good at screwing nxt call ups.
So,I hope where I'm indicating. The only thing that can save raw tag team division is the tag team of ziggler-mcintyre.
Its been dead since summerslam
McIntyre, R-Truth, Bobby Roode, Bobby Lashley, EC3, and Mickie James could fill out your TNA roster
On paper you are correct, Smackdown does have the better lineup. However if they dont book it right it wont matter.
OLI: Yeah - this is very important to note. Like if they book Big Cass dominating AJ, Bryan and Nakamura...
Exactly
Very true
WrestleTalk Hey Oli, I want you to think of this possible Scenario of Asuka Trying to accept the fact that Charlotte broke her Streak & that's she came back as the same Asuka. But Eventually, she can't Accept that & she turns Heel on Charlotte down the line.
It wouldn't really effect anything or matter because going forward all PPV events are co-branded so Raw and Smackdown stars are on the same show every month.
That's what I am saying.
Styles,joe,nakamura,hardy,bryan,orton,miz,almas.
All these guys can take smackdown to the top for one long year.
Even if they use rusev and big cass as mid cards,smackdown will still be better.
Look at the tag team division.
The bar,usos,new day,sanity,bludgeon brothers,gallows/anderson. Damn.
Charolette,becky,asuka,carmella,naomi,peyton royce. All quality superstars.
People weren't invested in jinder mahal and baron corbin. Since,corbin is getting a push,we might see feud of roman and corbin/ strowman and corbin. That'd be awful for sure.
And they won't let ziggler and mcintyre to be in the universal title picture. The tag team might get raw tag titles,or mcintyre might get the ic title. That's it.
And even if there's a better plan,they'll take 4/5 months to execute it.
The only good things left on raw are bray wyatt,roman,hardy,rollins,strowman and ziggler-mcintyre (as a tag team).
Yeah,I haven't mentioned finn bluer,because they haven't given him much of a character.
And yeah,I agree with oli.
"Smackdown has lost quantity,but gained quality"
Farian Alvi Finn bluer I thought it was Finn Balor
Sanity will attack the USO’s witch will lead Naomi to save the USO’s then Nikki Cross will attack her
Sanity's first feud will be with the new day. I guess.
Farian Alvi sounds about right, Micheal Hayes loves three man tag teams and I believe he still is on SmackDown creative.
i have a feeling that they will be feuding with the new day first
Yeah, I think SaNity will feud with the New Day because both factions have 3 guys & of course, they would want SaNity to fight together as a 3 man faction.
Nope....Nikki Cross stayed on NXT
You guys do a good show top notch
OLI: Why thank you.
Kevin Yates YO IM ALSO A SWINDON FANNNN
Kevin Yates sorry I never get to see other STFC fans
SmackDown got the best wrestlers.
Asuka, Absolution, Andrade Cien Almas, Big Cass, Samoa Joe, Sanity, The Bar and The Miz
On SmackDown, Andrade can’t end up on 205 Live and imagine all the dream matches that can occur with the above wrestlers
Vince has a big thing for Mexican superstar. They'll utilize him.
Jamie Holmes forgot Jeff hardy
Big cass best wrestler nah , absolution Nah , Joe great , Almas very good , Raw Main eventers still better overall then SD , but Sd midcard and women division , tag division better then raw
Shaie Manju I’m pretty sure that’s why he has Zalina Vega.. same way Lesnar has Heyman
Andrade should of gone to Raw, revenge on Drew but hey what do we know about revenge story bookings
Smackdown won with one word........JOE!
joe joe joe joe....
Joe's gonna kill you!
OLI: PAIGE!
NOT NOW PAIGE!
JCmasters100 tell that to his face and u'll see what happens. He'll come out even more outta freakin nowhere than Randy Orton
If smackdown is top show this year, Miz should get a pay rise 😂
Smackdown won the shakeup but Raw won the battle of returns/debuts.
My bet on Big Cass is he joins the Miz and the attack was planned.
NickBD my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
Tye Hardy & Jeff Hardy call them
The New Hardyz Boyz was planned.
I'm thinking Big Cass is aligned with the miz somehow
Ryan Garbett I'm thinking my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
Call it The New Hardyz Boyz was planned
I hope by the end of Backlash, SmackDownLive has all of RAW's titles 😂😂😂
CaptainMcFlawww that would be hilarious haha
CaptainMcFlawww that would be crazy
I see IC title coming to Smackdown, as they wanted Miz to be longest combined Reigning Champion, so i speculate miz winning at GRR & Hardy dropping title back to jinder
The top stars of SDLive are Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Nakamura, Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe, The Miz. That's just main event lol. The mid-card is stacked lol RAW completely SUCKS
Boy123Jim even if they use rusev,big cass,shelton Benjamin as mid cards,it'll Still be the a show.
Boy123Jim yeah it's weird, Vince has always put Raw first and now he's moved all these great talent to SmackDown while taking the bottom barrel ones from there to Raw. Either Vince is going to finally let SmackDown be the wrestling show again and Raw be the "Sports and Entertainment" or whatever word he's using now show or he's trying to really build SmackDown up.
Shaie Manju I was thinking the same
Smackdown has the older people
You forgot sin cara
When Luke said The Phenomenal ball arm in his Smack Down review I spit soda all over myself, HILARIOUS!!
For the Miz and Daniel Bryan storyline, I would book The Miz to win the money in the bank ladder match which is after Backlash and wait to cash in the briefcase when Daniel wins the title at Summerslam which would make the Miz a crazy heel then you can run a storyline to another one of the big pay per views
Smackdown won by sending all their lame people to Raw.
bzgraphicartist
Specially Jinder
I'm so happy SD got Joe and Almas. Lock the rosters from now on and let SD be great!!
Man Jeff's knee selling was Amazing.....For a sec i though that was real ...Good Job Jeff
Jeff actually adresses changing the way he does the swanton bomb on the edge and christian podcast. Simply put he stopped giving a f*** about the guy taking it. :D
Road Dogg and Ryan Ward have no more excuses. They have all the talent to create a 2016 vibe into the show.
Victor Nguyen i swere ryan ward aint on the smackdown creative anymore
another awesome ramble thanks guys WRESTLE TALK 4LIFE
Smackdown finally got the superstars and Justice it deserved. AJ has plenty of competition for his title now.
NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!! Paige traded the U.S title for the better talent trades knowing she would somehow get it back. Great booking!
Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
Tye Hardy & Jeff Hardy call them
The New Hardyz Boyz
If Kurt knew that Jeff was going to SD... why did he let him compete for the US title?
Cause he was the first to come out, duh
Brian Farrell ok then why put it up for an open challenge during the shake-up? He knew that Jeff could have come out, won and took the belt to smackdown. It's dumb
Because if not he would have lost Seth Rollins
RedeyezBlackfire the deals were already made before raw. Paige hadn't traded for rollins. This still doesn't make sense
christopher seddon that was sarcasm
No one else seemed to notice but randy orton lost his US title rematch in Saudi Arabia because jinder lost it to hardy on Monday night.
I find myself hating the iconic duo, thinking how I find them annoying, but then I realize I’m supposed to hate them!
Thank you guys for making me interested in WWE pro wrestling again, much respect!
I think R-Truth is going to team with Tye Dillinger.
Christopher Lange nah I think I'll be my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
The New Hardyz Boyz was planned.
Shelton Benjamin should reunite with return of Charlie Haas
Great podcast as always, guys! 💯💯👌
By the way, Jeff actually talked about how he doesn't "control" his swanton bombs (and its landings) any more on the last episode of E&C's pod of awesomeness! Highly recommend to listen to it! It was hilarious! 😂
So glad this is going to be a regular thing!! MORE RAMBLE THAN EVER
The best part of the video for promoting co-branded PPVs is Erick Rowan - that part is fantastic
I think they should make Big Cass the one man Miztourage, Put him with Miz and have him be his bodyguard, he can look strong and not have to talk.
Gabriel Ventura I think R truth join new day and my bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
Call it The New Hardyz Boyz was planned
Smackdown definitely won this Shake-up!
Smackdown was epic. I would like to give my condolences to the family of Bruno Sammartino , one of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
It was one of the first matches announced: seth vs finn vs miz vs joe in a ladder match
Nxt superstars will do a great impact
You guys do a great job! I love those podcasts!
i love jeff hardy. the whisper in the winds, twist of fate, swanton bombs, the nutcracker... he has a way of stealing the show. he is the charismatic egnema.
Jeff recently talked about the way he currently does his Swanton Bomb on Edge and Christian's Podcast. He used to do the graceful "ninja roll" to prevent hurting his opponents, but eventually ended up cracking his tailbone or something doing so. Ever since then, he decided to simply crush dudes: "I gotta take care of me before I take care of you."
SD Live back on TOP!!!
Just something I noticed & glad Luke mentioned it: I too thought I heard the crowd chanting "Y2J" during the Charlotte v. Billie Kay match, which I thought was oddly random. After I paused my Tivo recording and played it back a few times, I believe it was a "Billie Kay" chant that was coming across strange or picked up weird by the audio. Since I wasn't there in person, I'm not sure of this 100%, but just wanted to see if anyone else knew for sure, as after listening to the replay I was sure I heard the appropriate chant instead. I thought it was just a weird thing I experienced, but glad to know I wasn't the only one.
Jeff Hardy talked about the "new" Swanton Bomb on the Edge & Christian Podcast 2 or 3 weeks ago. He said he used to land to protect his opponents, but it did damage to his lower back & his coccyx over the years, so now he protects himself
Joe wasn't a surprise for me because his short TV matches i.e. Sin Cara fit the two hour format. I believe it's the best move of the shake up
Smackdown has the better Main event superstars and a much better Womens division.
We have got good rosters this time but lets hope WWE is lot better than 2017. #SWAFTnation
RAW has a good mid carder roster though
Arjun Sharma smackdown fucked up when jinder won the wwe title and corbin won the mitb briefcase.
But they're 3x better now.
For me women's division is far more even maybe Raw is better. I'd take Sasha, Bayley, Nia, Rousey, Alexa, Ember Moon thats a solid top 6 after Charlotte, Becky and Asuka doesn't look as good.
bayley and banks rivalry isn't going anywhere. Alexa and Nia still can do better. RAW is better on paper but we
might see them becoming better
That's kinda my point on paper Raw has a better roster on SD after big 3 then Naomi it's a little thin. Your right SD might end up being better but in terms of names Raw is ahead.
PERFECT TRUTH for Tag Champs!!!
Brian Harrison bet on Tye Dillinger will be (Matt Hardy's) replacement and Tye Dillinger will team up with Jeff Hardy
Call it The New Hardyz Boyz and new Hardyz for tag team champions
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Another great podcast.
Continue the great work. Love your guys shows. Can we get more roh and new Japan?
i eagerly wait every day for these podcasts lol
So the three things I'm hoping coming out of this smack down for the next few months would be , have Cass go into the mid card as one of the top mid card heels . Have miz move into top heel status fighting for the wwe title . And this could be the chance to have Rusev turn face .
Jeff talked about Landing the Swanton bombs on the e&c Pod of Awesomeness, and he said he's now out to protect himself instead of others because his body is taking so much damage. So a lot of the Swanton bombs are going to be crazy hard.
I actually believe a Big Cass/Daniel Bryan feud to start for both guys coming back from injury is a good thing. It's beneficial to Bryan to have a feud with someone with a limited skill set right away to allow for short matches to acclimate him in the WWE since he was gone for 3 years. And it helps Cass become a proper heel to beat up the top babyface. It helps both and given that Miz promo on Bryan and the announced matches at UK house shows between the two, I don't think this is a long feud, just something for both to do to help them get back in the swing of things.
I was quite pleased to see most of who Smackdown were able to get from Raw the one thing that really surprised me was that Randy Orton wasn't traded. He's been on Smackdown for quite a while now and there were reports that he was unhappy on Smackdown.
He's also been wanting to turn heel for a long time. So I thought that he would've been traded to Raw to give him a fresh start. In return I expected someone like Fin Balor to be traded to Smackdown.
I just hope that with this roster, Smackdown again be that Smackdown that was from the separation of brands to WM 33
Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn
Drew McIntyre
Chad Gable
Raw didn't do so bad
Luke, listen to the E&C podcast with Matt and Jeff, he talks about how he used to control the swanton and now he just protects himself. They call it the "world championship" swanton because he started doing it that way for his first title win.
Just gotta say you guys are hilarious love all the content
I’m loving Smackdown and I like how Cass feels like a big deal Jeff is a great choice and Joe vs Aj is a match I want to see. Almas is just a incredible move.
Jeff Hardy said on the E&C podcast that he doesn't try to "soften" the Swanton Bomb anymore because he got hurt doing so once and it took months until he felt normal again.
The best I can tell the trades were as follows:
1) Miz for Jinder & Sunil,
2) Jeff for Ryder & Rawley,
3) Absolution for Riott Squad,
4) Joe for Roode & Ziggler,
5) Cass for Corbin,
6) Asuka for Natalya,
7) Good Brothers for Breezango & Ascension,
8) The Bar for Gable, Owens & Zayn,
9) R-Truth for Mike Kanellis.
Raw called up:
1) Drew McIntyre,
2) Ember Moon,
3) Authors of Pain,
4) No Way Jose.
Smackdown called up:
1) Andrade & Zelina,
2) IIconics,
3) Sanity.
Raw also got Lashley to make up some of the talent gap.
@wrestletalktv absolutely awesome breakdown guys. I shot hot coffee out of my nose when Aj wanted Shinsuke to apologize to his balls! Thanks Luke lol
They have announced an Ic ladder match for #GRR Seth v/s Finn v/s Miz(not sure) v/s Joe
I think Big Cass will become the Braun Strowman of SmackDown, where everyone hates him at first, then they grow to like his act when he really gets to shine.
Josh Rutkowski Cass is Corbin for Smackdown.
Well not when they start with him screwing with daniel bryan
Josh Rutkowski I hope so.
Josh Rutkowski Well, they did give him that little push way back when so hopefully, we'll get to see him spread his wings.
the new Corbin. Big Cass will win Money in The Bank
I find it funny how they overlooked the fact that Joe could take the IC and Universal Titles to Smackdown (if he were to win at GRR and Backlash), they knew that The Bar switching brands would mean Matt and Bray win the Raw tag titles, but didn't take into account that Jeff could lose the US Title to Jinder who is now on Raw. but then again Randy is the #1 contender so I guess that says the title ain't going anywhere lol. also I find it funny how Joe never mentioned Jeff and the US title during his promo.
a side note I would absolutely LOVE to see another Hardy/Orton feud. they could build on some past things if they truly thought about it, or pull some new things that would give the feud more depth to it. lead it all up to a US Title Ladder Match at Extreme Rules. BOOK IT VINCE!
I'm really excited for both brands. Smackdown is obviously going to be better with Miz and Bryan at the top, but I think Raw is gona surprise us. The lower stars will get that Raw creative and extra time to really starbuild. I am hoping for some more Brauns.
Surprisingly, the only one I'm going to miss from Smackdown the most is Chad Gable. He's an amazing talent, who if pushed and given some time could be really really good.
Listen to the e&c podcast, interview with hardys, jeff talks about how hes changed his Swanton landing. He looks after himself more in the landing than he used to
Jeff referenced him fully landing on guys with the swanton on Edge and Christian podcast, it's a good listen in, if you have a spare hour or two, would recommend listening. 👌
Vince is high on Corbin, so he'll most likely be booked much better now. Roode just needs to turn heel and go back to his NXT persona. Jinder will keep improving by having matches with Balor, Rollins, Hardy and so on. Precisely Seth and Finn are perfect surrounding the main event. Lashley is more explosive than Lesnar and his matches with Reigns and Strowman will be something worth seeing. Ziggler/McIntyre and Owens/Zayn are great additions to the tag team division and for the upper midcard whenever they split up, same goes for Wyatt and Hardy. Breezango can be a nice surprise and perhaps the Ascension could have a better chance at redeeming themselves later on this year when all those other teams eventually break up.
Maybe WrestleTalk should keep a track of which show was better week over week and see as to which brand wins towards the end of next year's Wrestlemania. Could be a nice thing to keep a track off. :)
I'm sort of surprised Kassius Ohno didn't debut n SmackDown, he isn't really doing anything in NXT right now apart from putting people over but i suppose he could be turning heel in NXT and going on a revitalized run of sorts. Ohno would be an awesome addition to either midcard.
Feels like they took the smackdown mid card to raw to elevate them, the top of the card is so good right now on smackdown, I can see Raw elevating some of those stagnate superstars from smackdown.
Ok, it's official: The two a week has made you guys better than Going in Raw. I truly get the 🎼Best of Both Worlds🎼 now!
I've been waiting on this since last night.
could they be making Big Cass Miz's bodyguard since there is no Miz tourage?
enjoyed luke's alan partridge impression : "who do you think you are?"
Nom nom nom. I'm always a smackdown fan and Luke and Oli are the best of both worlds
Smackdown's tag division is off the chains. Usos, Bar, Gall-Anderson, New Day, Sanity, Bludgeon Brothers. Meanwhile on RAW....
I agree Luke Smackdown seems a more focused show, Tag team, women, main event and mid card is strong. 2007-08 TNA, AJ, Joe, EY, Xavier Woods, Hardy
The only thing they are missing is another hour
Potential Main event: AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Nakamura, Rusev, Joe, The Miz, Jeff Hardy, Dain, Cesaro and Sheamus when they break up!
Mid Card: Jeff Hardy, Orton, Sin Cara, RTruth, Shelton Benjamin, Aiden English, Big Cass, Tye Dillinger, Cien Almas, Eric Young, Killain Dain, (May be Jericho), Big E
Tag team: The Bar, Uso's, New Day, The Club, Bludgeon Bros, Sanity, Rusev Day
Women: Charlotte, Asuka, Mandy Rose, the other absolution woman,Becky Lynch, Lana, Naomi, Carmella, Peyton Royce, the other iconic duo (sorry I forgot the name) and Zelina Vega! Even Marysse may be in the future.
Authority Figure : Shane McMohan (twice a year wrestler)
And Paige!
For Big Cass, I believe he will be the muscle for The Miz. Might be we missed the point. Miz said he will kick DBry arse! It can be Big Cass going directly behind DBry as a proxy for Miz.
As for Sanity, I can see Young and Wolfe go for tag team title and Dain for US!
I have put same name in different section as those names may move around!
I believe Joe's IC title match was announced; a four man ladder match against seth, finn and miz
Second Backlash LMAO, you've earned the thumbs up Luke.
I've cracked it! WWE Creative saw HHH lipsyncing to Moana and they believed they could get the joint PPV's over with that terrible advert!
Jeff said he'd stopped doing the ninja roll out of the swanton bomb as it was messing up his back, so he lets the opponent take more of the impact.
With combined ppv it would be pretty awesome to see championships owned by opposite brands
Truly making raw vs smackdown, who can hold all the titles
@WrestleTalk Jeff Hardy was on a podcast saying he used to the the senton bomb with his neck to protect the other wrestlers, but it started hurting his lower back but now that he's a veteran in the company he stopped caring for those he's crushing. 😆
I really would love to see a RAW program between Corbin and Braun
The "big" names Raw got were Roode, Zayn, Owens, Mahal, Corbin, Ziggler and MacIntyre. Also Gable moving over could mean an American Alpha reunion. Aside from Roode these are all heels but they have Reigns, Strowman, Rollins, Balor, Lashley and at some point Ambrose (along with Roode) to face those heels.
IMHO It makes a lot of sense. Raw is three hours so has it's key stars and a lot of filler. Smackdown is lean and mean and perfect for a 2 hour show.
The other thing to take into account, Raw and Smackdown are doing joint PPV's now. So if you think about it what you have is the headliners on Raw (like it or not), the mid card on Smackdown and then the curtain jerkers and enhancement talent on Raw. In a PPV sense it makes perfect sense. What wouldn't make sense after this shake up would be single branded PPV's. Smackdown is too small for it and Raw has too much filler. Co-Branded though, it's perfect.
41:10 I do.
41:23 Could have had any of them gun for Asuka's streak. But they botched that at WM34.
Instead, we got 40:48
People keep saying Asuka is boring because you know she's not going to lose. Yeah, no. She's not boring at all; she's just that much better than almost everyone else in WWE women's division. Even without the streak, I don't see anyone beating her. But, with the streak, it gives the other women more incentive to try and win, like the amazing matches Asuka and Sasha had on RAW. Nope. WWE and everyone's cynicism killed that dynamic.
RIP bruno sammartino
2018 smackdown is much like TNA roster with AJ ,JOE,Eric young ,R truth , Xavier woods ,Jeff Hardy ,gallows just Bobby roode and lashley on raw
Simon from whatculture made the point that Daniel wanted to work with talents that needed more air time and could use it to grow. Big Cass could be a guy he sees as that guy to work with.