Oh Dave Macleod is a great choice! I don't know how he isn't more well known - he has some of the hardest trad routes, free solo's, mixed routes, and some insane sport/boulder climbs as well.
Love this shout! Daves no doubt inspired so many trad and other climbers! In my opinion he is the greatest trad climber of all time (not big wall trad etc) but pure hard run out terrifying trad he is no doubt the best
Comparing 40 year old TC to Honnold isn't quite fair; TC was quite jacked when he was younger. Anyway, I think TC's mental tenacity & capacity for hard work are also important elements of his success that weren't hit upon in the video.
He's a good all rounder, but its his tenacity and mental endurance that make him exceptional. Hours upon hours of swinging around on big walls, cleaning, figuring beta etc. He pushed a hostage taker off a cliff for pete sake, the dudes a mental warrior
Would love to see a video on the big boys of the sport. 170-200lbs+ climbers are incredibly overpowered just to stay on the rock. Examples: Jimmy webb (180lbs in his first south Africa trips onsighting v11), Klein Loskott (170's), Tony Lamprech (5.14s and V14 at 200lbs!), or even John Dunn (Weigh a tonne Dunn).
Yeah! It was actually repeated recently by Matty Hong, who upgraded it to 15b. There's some questions about which holds have broken and how that may have changed the difficulty, but as it stands right now, it's a 5.15b. Tommy (being Tommy) very quickly came out and said that whatever Sharma was climbing in '03 was harder than what he was climbing, and in his view, Jumbo Love is still the 'first' of its grade. It brings up some really interesting topics about first grades!
Interesting. His BRAIN was molded by his dad challenging him at young ages and his BRAIN was molded by his kidnapping, divorce, and losing a finger. If he was not kidnapped by rebels, left by his wife, and the victim of the finger accident -- there is no way he would have had the desire and persistence to focus on the Dawn Wall. He essentially needed something to focus his life pursuit during that awful period. Strong, agile, determined, and a hell of a natural talent.
Interesting analysis, you make some good points about Tommy's creativity in his climbing. I think you really missed the key components to his climbing though. He climbs extremely intuitively; probably due to his 30+ years of experience climbing. Those little adjustments you are referring to are in my opinion representative of this intuitive style: he is looking for the best body positioning to make a certain move more efficient. But, in my opinion (and his as well), Tommy's greatest quality in climbing is his mental fortitude- he mentions in The Push throwing himself at the wall so many times that he eventually just gets up the thing. Same goes for training. The dude just doesn't stop. Also you mention height and Ape index as being some sort of factor that would make him and outstanding climber?? In fact most pro climbers are on the shorter side and ape index doesn't seem to give any sort of advantage but instead seems to direct a climber towards a specific style.
I agree. Personally I feel if there is an Artist out there, it's Ondra. The approach is always unique, the route is always aesthetic, the style is truly beautiful to witness, and the philosophy of the climb is always considered. Whereas I find Tommy as a sort of flyboy in a dogfight trying as hard as he can to send the route come hell or high water. I'm not sure he's the first climber that comes to mind when uttering the word Artist. Chris Schwarma is an Artist. Ondra is an Artist. I feel Caldwell is tenacious and even a bit lucky.
I think the mental fortitude you speak of; that push to keep trying isn't something that necessarily stands out as a distinguishing characteristic of Tommy. Lots of high level climbers exhibit this so I can't see how it should be brought up as a defining characteristic. Additionally, you speak of intuition, creativity in problem solving is intuition, surely, especially when combined with a good (realistic) sense of the mechanics involved, like friction, which I believe the author of the video mentioned? I personally thought delicate attention to detail stands out here, especially when he climbs granite where observation and awareness of the subtleties in friction and rock surface angles are key to cracking hard routes.
Ashima is a great choice! Floating is literally the perfect word to describe her climbing - she's so smooth as she moves. I'll definitely add her to the list!
I think Jordan Cannon would be a good video, he’s not exceptionally strong and has only bouldered one v9 ever, but has climbed both freerider and golden gate in a day
Kinda missed the point I think. Footwork and good use of the hips is seen in pretty much every elite climber. Tommy was a strong young gun back in the day and now he's the experienced natural climber with lots of perseverance.
Trust me, I would love to show more video of Caldwell on slab. I had an entire breakdown of him climbing Pitch 15, but Reel Rock won't let me use footage they own and I didn't want to risk the video getting taken down
Hey I really enjoyed the video :) such a video about Laura rogora or someone else who is small would be nice. I am quite tall and would like to understand the ways in which she makes up for her height. Keep 'em coming!
What most people, the public misses is that good climbers make hard climbs look easy. Smooth on 5.13+ They have no real understanding. Riding a big wave is different. Jumping out of a plane seems hard.
Nah man climbing without safety equipment doesn’t contribute to „biggest big wall climber.“ I mean what would one tell kids starting climbing? „In order to be the biggest you have to leave out safety equipment?“
I think (?) the point is the alex honnold isn't "super strong" perse, as far as profession climbers go. He does boulder super hard, nor does he sport super hard, he just free solos at a larger scale than anyone before him. I feel like where he excels is "balls" and execution/mind game.
Sort of! I've definitely learned from Albert's style, but the series was mostly inspired by me watching movies/Reel Rock and being super interested by the unique aspects of each climber. That being said, the intro was definitely inspired by Albert Ok. Another sports RUclipsr I really like is Clayton Crowley, and I've tried to learn a lot from his stuff.
I actually meant to say 5.15b! I know Flex is technically graded 15a, but quite a few people have tried it and said it's uber stiff. I wouldn't be shocked to see it upgraded once it finally gets repeated (which would be crazy, because that would mean Caldwell sent 5.15b 5 years before Sharma did)
Great vid and commentary. But it could be much better for us,viewers, if you could normalize the sound of your voice and make a bit more space between your voice and bg music :)
You're the second person to suggest Siegrist so I'll definitely give him a look! I admit I haven't seen as much of his stuff - is there a 'thing' that stands out about him? What do you think his biggest strengths are?
@@ascentionism Great footwork, very precisely in positioning his feet and fingers, super smooth movements and micro adjustments,... I love his style, always controlled and just nice to watch. But you are the expert so I am very excited about your analysis!
Hey, thanks! I really appreciate that. Any pointers? I repositioned my mic and reduced the background music sound for my latest video - I'm not sure if it's any better though
@@ascentionism hello, love this video, hope you don't mind me jimming in here. The audio sounds a little quiet, so perhaps you could get an anti-pop filter so you can talk into the mic more and filter out constant background noise (eg using Audacity) so it doesn't have to be so quiet?
@@jennariseley3161 Thanks for the comment! I thought my mic had some kind of filter (keep in mind I know nothing about audio), but I'll definitely look at getting something a little more serious. Right now I'm just using a lav mic, and I'm probably going to upgrade in the near future. I really appreciate the advice, and I'll definitely take a look at Audacity!
Great, in-depth video. I would put Tommy along with Yuji Hirayama, as the GREATEST ALL-AROUND ROCK CLIMBER, with Dave Macleod not far behind. For women it would be Lynn Hill and Catherine Destivelle. Instead of "The Artist", I would characterize Tommy as THE MAGICIAN, for his amazing technique, his elaborate and visionary wall projects, and his ability to overcome a devastating finger deletion.
All good points, but I think you missed a couple of very big ones- persistence and consistency. Tommy keeps at it long after the others have gone home.
Hey! I definitely do climb, although I would say I'm pretty average, and I've been out for basically a year now thanks to quarantine and a pulley injury. Still love the sport, though, and I'm just healing up/looking to get back into it
I meant to say 5.15b there instead of 15d. I think that rock quality, remoteness, and timing are all factors - the time that Flex comes into season is around the same time that most people are heading to Mallorca or other European climbing areas
Hey man. Appreciate the vid, entertaining and cool analysis. I loved reading Push. Just wanted to echo what another commenter mentioned: the quality of your voice. As was said, the music was a little loud by comparison. Beyond that however, your voice sounded very muffled, all the lower frequencies were muddy and it made it kind of challenging to make out what you were saying. I don't think it matters so much with a short video, but it would be really tiring to listen too for a longer period of time. I totally understand good mic set ups are expensive, not sure what your intentions are, learning is a process, all of that stuff. Not trying to be negative in any way, I appreciate your content. Just wanted to share an observation that might be helpful.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! (and for putting it nicely - people on RUclips can be mean sometimes). I really appreciate it. Right now I'm just using a lav mic on my lapel, which is probably not a great place to be recording this type of audio. I'll experiment with it next time and see if I can get some more clear sound. Thanks again!
Oooooh, that would be a fun one. I was thinking of having an entirely different series talking about some of the old-school climbers, and Bachar would definitely be covered in that one
I'd love to see an Alex Honnold video. Everyone knows his free solos but he is arguably the best big wall climber in the world which can be shown by the many speed climbing records he's set in Yosemite.
“Nor even the most technical climber” Ughhhhhhh. What? When the intro is a weird oversimplification and just weirdly wrong I give a down doot. How does one of the greatest granite wizards not be “the most technical”?
You can be a successful climber without an index finger because according to expert hand therapists approximately 50% of your grip strength comes from your pinky finger.
When showing the best ever in the beginning of this video, why are you showing Lebron? He is not the best basketball player ever. Yes he's been to ten finals but he lost six. Get real. MJ, no doubt.
First of all, sir, this is a climbing channel ....buuuuuuut 5 Lebrons vs 5 MJ's in a 7 game series? Bron takes it every time, GOAT status confirmed (I used Bron because it was easier to find a high-quality clip of him dunking)
It's amusing and absurd to have you say, "he looks like he could be an accountant" - Hans Florine IS an accountant, CPA, by the way. And you can't talk about Tommy without talking about his ex-wife, what a massive influence that makes on his mind and heart, how he pulled back after he had kids. Turn up your sound, and get a better microphone. You can do better, bro. While you're at it, look up Chris Sharma's Mom.
First. Climbing isn’t a sport. Sports are competitive with rules and a winner and a loser. Second, he didn’t do it “all” with a missing finger. Third, nice video. Cheers.
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Do a video on Dave Macleod, another underappreciated all-rounder who should be considered among the greatest ever.
Oh Dave Macleod is a great choice! I don't know how he isn't more well known - he has some of the hardest trad routes, free solo's, mixed routes, and some insane sport/boulder climbs as well.
I second this
@@ascentionism another climber who was a great very early on is Beat Kammerlander. Should also be considered
oh yes!
Love this shout! Daves no doubt inspired so many trad and other climbers! In my opinion he is the greatest trad climber of all time (not big wall trad etc) but pure hard run out terrifying trad he is no doubt the best
Comparing 40 year old TC to Honnold isn't quite fair; TC was quite jacked when he was younger. Anyway, I think TC's mental tenacity & capacity for hard work are also important elements of his success that weren't hit upon in the video.
He's a good all rounder, but its his tenacity and mental endurance that make him exceptional. Hours upon hours of swinging around on big walls, cleaning, figuring beta etc. He pushed a hostage taker off a cliff for pete sake, the dudes a mental warrior
Great video ! I‘d love to see something about Stefano Ghisolfi.
What an odd name, don't you think?
Would love to see a video on the big boys of the sport. 170-200lbs+ climbers are incredibly overpowered just to stay on the rock. Examples: Jimmy webb (180lbs in his first south Africa trips onsighting v11), Klein Loskott (170's), Tony Lamprech (5.14s and V14 at 200lbs!), or even John Dunn (Weigh a tonne Dunn).
Thanks for this description and analysis. I especially appreciated the words "artist," "beautiful," "creative," and "subtle" to describe his climbing.
Thats crazy about Flex Luthor- I didn’t know it hasn’t been repeated. It would be interesting to see Ondra or Megos try it. What a Working class hero.
Yeah! It was actually repeated recently by Matty Hong, who upgraded it to 15b. There's some questions about which holds have broken and how that may have changed the difficulty, but as it stands right now, it's a 5.15b.
Tommy (being Tommy) very quickly came out and said that whatever Sharma was climbing in '03 was harder than what he was climbing, and in his view, Jumbo Love is still the 'first' of its grade. It brings up some really interesting topics about first grades!
Love this format of video, looking forward to channel growth!
Caldwell is certainly my favorite with ondra. Both so smooth climbers, not just powerhouses.
Very nice video. I like the way you did it and the the simple explanations you gave. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting. His BRAIN was molded by his dad challenging him at young ages and his BRAIN was molded by his kidnapping, divorce, and losing a finger. If he was not kidnapped by rebels, left by his wife, and the victim of the finger accident -- there is no way he would have had the desire and persistence to focus on the Dawn Wall. He essentially needed something to focus his life pursuit during that awful period. Strong, agile, determined, and a hell of a natural talent.
“It’s not easy to pin down why” A missed opportunity at a missing finger pun
Review my next script and give pun advice pls
@@ascentionism deal! Send me the next script, I got you
Definitely a joke in there. I just can't put my finger on it.
Interesting analysis, you make some good points about Tommy's creativity in his climbing. I think you really missed the key components to his climbing though. He climbs extremely intuitively; probably due to his 30+ years of experience climbing. Those little adjustments you are referring to are in my opinion representative of this intuitive style: he is looking for the best body positioning to make a certain move more efficient. But, in my opinion (and his as well), Tommy's greatest quality in climbing is his mental fortitude- he mentions in The Push throwing himself at the wall so many times that he eventually just gets up the thing. Same goes for training. The dude just doesn't stop. Also you mention height and Ape index as being some sort of factor that would make him and outstanding climber?? In fact most pro climbers are on the shorter side and ape index doesn't seem to give any sort of advantage but instead seems to direct a climber towards a specific style.
I agree. Personally I feel if there is an Artist out there, it's Ondra. The approach is always unique, the route is always aesthetic, the style is truly beautiful to witness, and the philosophy of the climb is always considered. Whereas I find Tommy as a sort of flyboy in a dogfight trying as hard as he can to send the route come hell or high water. I'm not sure he's the first climber that comes to mind when uttering the word Artist. Chris Schwarma is an Artist. Ondra is an Artist. I feel Caldwell is tenacious and even a bit lucky.
I think the mental fortitude you speak of; that push to keep trying isn't something that necessarily stands out as a distinguishing characteristic of Tommy. Lots of high level climbers exhibit this so I can't see how it should be brought up as a defining characteristic. Additionally, you speak of intuition, creativity in problem solving is intuition, surely, especially when combined with a good (realistic) sense of the mechanics involved, like friction, which I believe the author of the video mentioned? I personally thought delicate attention to detail stands out here, especially when he climbs granite where observation and awareness of the subtleties in friction and rock surface angles are key to cracking hard routes.
@@blurpderp5826 I agree
I just discovered your channel and I love your videos!
It's crazy how much publicity the dawn wall got outside of the climbing community!
Could you analyze Ashima Shiraishi? I'm fascinated by her ability to float climbs that buff dudes can't do.
Ashima is a great choice! Floating is literally the perfect word to describe her climbing - she's so smooth as she moves. I'll definitely add her to the list!
It helps that she weighs 40kg
Tommy is by far my favorite climber all-time. He is the greatest big wall climber of all time.
Totally agree. Greatest bigwall ever, and maaaaybe has an argument to be one of the greatest ever...?
Maybe you can make a video of Alexander Huber. He was the first one climbing a 9a and even in his mid 50's he and his brother are climbing 8b's.
The early Dolomite climbers in the 1920's and 1930's were also fantastic great wall climbers. Hemp ropes and no portaledges.
very enjoyable video.. it´s goood.
I´m hoping for more in the future!
Thanks! More to come in the future for sure!
excellent analysis, regards from Argentina
Incredibly good content bud. Beautiful.
Aw thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it
Really cool video dude, nice analysis!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it
I'd love to see Margo Hayes or Brooke Raboutou. They have very unique styles which allow them to succeed at a world class level.
His tendons of steel was definitely down played.
Well obviously not steel,..But i get your point
Haven't watched the video yet, but going into it the thing that sets Tommy apart is that he is such a fucking baller.
Johnny Dawes, his notable accents and how he's changed as a climber with age
Tommy is definitely my all time favorite climber
Well done! Very good video on an amazing climber with a great story. However the video was exactly what the title alluded, his style.
I think Jordan Cannon would be a good video, he’s not exceptionally strong and has only bouldered one v9 ever, but has climbed both freerider and golden gate in a day
That's a great suggestion!
@@ascentionism Thank you
And great humble guy too...
I'd love to see one about Jonathan Siegrist
Janja Garnbret!!!! How is she SO effortless in the comp climbing scene?
You BETTER believe I have a Janja video planned! Her power and confidence are insane
Really great analysis!
Kinda missed the point I think. Footwork and good use of the hips is seen in pretty much every elite climber. Tommy was a strong young gun back in the day and now he's the experienced natural climber with lots of perseverance.
Great video! What about Dani Andrada or Manolo?
Jimmy Webb
I came for the hand-foot match. Slab is fab!
Trust me, I would love to show more video of Caldwell on slab. I had an entire breakdown of him climbing Pitch 15, but Reel Rock won't let me use footage they own and I didn't want to risk the video getting taken down
Hey I really enjoyed the video :) such a video about Laura rogora or someone else who is small would be nice. I am quite tall and would like to understand the ways in which she makes up for her height. Keep 'em coming!
Laura is someone I'm definitely planning on doing a video for. Her endurance is INSANE and watching her climb is so aesthetically pleasing
Beautiful video ! Thank you very much …..but why not helmet Tommy ?
What most people, the public misses is that good climbers make hard climbs look easy. Smooth on 5.13+ They have no real understanding. Riding a big wave is different. Jumping out of a plane seems hard.
2:55 "even Alex Honnold", I get your point, but that's not the best example, as you could argue Honnold is the biggest big wall climber himself haha
I think he meant even Alex Honnold who is not very muscular is still more jacked than Tommy Caldwell
Nah man climbing without safety equipment doesn’t contribute to „biggest big wall climber.“ I mean what would one tell kids starting climbing? „In order to be the biggest you have to leave out safety equipment?“
I think (?) the point is the alex honnold isn't "super strong" perse, as far as profession climbers go. He does boulder super hard, nor does he sport super hard, he just free solos at a larger scale than anyone before him. I feel like where he excels is "balls" and execution/mind game.
were you inspired to dothis series by albertok?
Sort of! I've definitely learned from Albert's style, but the series was mostly inspired by me watching movies/Reel Rock and being super interested by the unique aspects of each climber. That being said, the intro was definitely inspired by Albert Ok. Another sports RUclipsr I really like is Clayton Crowley, and I've tried to learn a lot from his stuff.
I love your videos
Thanks man!
Thank you! I’ve wondered this for so long and now I get it.
Did you say 5.15d at 2:12? I think you mean 5.15a.
I actually meant to say 5.15b! I know Flex is technically graded 15a, but quite a few people have tried it and said it's uber stiff. I wouldn't be shocked to see it upgraded once it finally gets repeated (which would be crazy, because that would mean Caldwell sent 5.15b 5 years before Sharma did)
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Interesting analysis! Would be cool if you turned up volume of your voice a bit :)
I'll make sure to do that! Thanks for the tip :)
I really want to see a vid on Brad Gobright! Super awesome climber
Great video
Dude is sick!!!
Great vid and commentary. But it could be much better for us,viewers, if you could normalize the sound of your voice and make a bit more space between your voice and bg music :)
I'll make sure to turn down the background music next time! Thanks for the tip
Hazel Findlay is the climber we could learn the most of, as she´s mastering using her feet and legs instead od raw arm strength
Great suggestion!
Tommy Caldwell, the accountant
Jonathan Siegrist!! Also a master of hips and feet positioning!
You're the second person to suggest Siegrist so I'll definitely give him a look! I admit I haven't seen as much of his stuff - is there a 'thing' that stands out about him? What do you think his biggest strengths are?
@@ascentionism Great footwork, very precisely in positioning his feet and fingers, super smooth movements and micro adjustments,... I love his style, always controlled and just nice to watch. But you are the expert so I am very excited about your analysis!
Hey, I love what you do here so i’d like to help improve your channel’s audio quality
Hey, thanks! I really appreciate that. Any pointers? I repositioned my mic and reduced the background music sound for my latest video - I'm not sure if it's any better though
@@ascentionism hello, love this video, hope you don't mind me jimming in here. The audio sounds a little quiet, so perhaps you could get an anti-pop filter so you can talk into the mic more and filter out constant background noise (eg using Audacity) so it doesn't have to be so quiet?
@@jennariseley3161 Thanks for the comment! I thought my mic had some kind of filter (keep in mind I know nothing about audio), but I'll definitely look at getting something a little more serious. Right now I'm just using a lav mic, and I'm probably going to upgrade in the near future. I really appreciate the advice, and I'll definitely take a look at Audacity!
Great, in-depth video. I would put Tommy along with Yuji Hirayama, as the GREATEST ALL-AROUND ROCK CLIMBER, with Dave Macleod not far behind. For women it would be Lynn Hill and Catherine Destivelle.
Instead of "The Artist", I would characterize Tommy as THE MAGICIAN, for his amazing technique, his elaborate and visionary wall projects, and his ability to overcome a devastating finger deletion.
A video on alex megos would be interesting
All good points, but I think you missed a couple of very big ones- persistence and consistency. Tommy keeps at it long after the others have gone home.
"what is he even doing here???"
I am loving all of these videos! You should do a video on nina caprez
Please make one about Alex Huber
turn the audio quality up bud, good vid
to be able to move your feet 4 times between moving your hands, you have to be stupid strong in your arms/hands.
Love the vid. However tommy is in no way at the end of his career.
Man are you climber? Just a curiosity that popped up while watching the video
Hey! I definitely do climb, although I would say I'm pretty average, and I've been out for basically a year now thanks to quarantine and a pulley injury. Still love the sport, though, and I'm just healing up/looking to get back into it
Can you pleas analyse Mognus mitbø
No.
@@EKdlwoasred why not?
@@Sim-wi1lt I think he out of all pro climbers needs the least amount of more on camera time.
@@Sim-wi1lt not to mention there’s not a lot interesting about his movement or technique
Now I know why my climbing sucks - I have too many fingers
Yes
The audio is insanely quiet. Just watched RUclips for an hour and only had to turn it up for this video.
Tommy looks like a slow version of Adam when he climbs. That's what I think anyway
Jain Kim
I think Flex Luther is a ~.15a, and no one thinks it's 15d. I may be wrong, but the rock quality may be a reason there's been no second ascent.
I meant to say 5.15b there instead of 15d. I think that rock quality, remoteness, and timing are all factors - the time that Flex comes into season is around the same time that most people are heading to Mallorca or other European climbing areas
Hey man. Appreciate the vid, entertaining and cool analysis. I loved reading Push.
Just wanted to echo what another commenter mentioned: the quality of your voice. As was said, the music was a little loud by comparison. Beyond that however, your voice sounded very muffled, all the lower frequencies were muddy and it made it kind of challenging to make out what you were saying. I don't think it matters so much with a short video, but it would be really tiring to listen too for a longer period of time.
I totally understand good mic set ups are expensive, not sure what your intentions are, learning is a process, all of that stuff. Not trying to be negative in any way, I appreciate your content. Just wanted to share an observation that might be helpful.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! (and for putting it nicely - people on RUclips can be mean sometimes). I really appreciate it. Right now I'm just using a lav mic on my lapel, which is probably not a great place to be recording this type of audio. I'll experiment with it next time and see if I can get some more clear sound. Thanks again!
Please consider profiling Ueli Steck - an incredible man
Sean Bailey
Jan Hojer
Charles Albert
John Bachar
Oooooh, that would be a fun one. I was thinking of having an entirely different series talking about some of the old-school climbers, and Bachar would definitely be covered in that one
@@ascentionism bachar, birdwell, croft, kauk, and i miss a few more!
his mental strenght is what puts him appart from the rest. creative? not really.
I'd love to see an Alex Honnold video. Everyone knows his free solos but he is arguably the best big wall climber in the world which can be shown by the many speed climbing records he's set in Yosemite.
who says he climbed the first 5.15d lol
Slip of the tongue by me - Flex Luthor is still unrepeated and some people have hinted that it feels more like a 15b, not 15d
@@ascentionism ah no proplem i was a bit confysed lol
“Nor even the most technical climber”
Ughhhhhhh. What? When the intro is a weird oversimplification and just weirdly wrong I give a down doot. How does one of the greatest granite wizards not be “the most technical”?
You can be a successful climber without an index finger because according to expert hand therapists approximately 50% of your grip strength comes from your pinky finger.
Yea that's why every single climber do monos with their pinky finger. It makes sense
Feels like a rip-off from Albert OK which is the better channel, especially with the different sport in the intro..
Please buy a microphone.
When showing the best ever in the beginning of this video, why are you showing Lebron? He is not the best basketball player ever. Yes he's been to ten finals but he lost six. Get real. MJ, no doubt.
First of all, sir, this is a climbing channel
....buuuuuuut 5 Lebrons vs 5 MJ's in a 7 game series? Bron takes it every time, GOAT status confirmed
(I used Bron because it was easier to find a high-quality clip of him dunking)
It's amusing and absurd to have you say, "he looks like he could be an accountant" - Hans Florine IS an accountant, CPA, by the way. And you can't talk about Tommy without talking about his ex-wife, what a massive influence that makes on his mind and heart, how he pulled back after he had kids. Turn up your sound, and get a better microphone. You can do better, bro. While you're at it, look up Chris Sharma's Mom.
First. Climbing isn’t a sport. Sports are competitive with rules and a winner and a loser. Second, he didn’t do it “all” with a missing finger. Third, nice video. Cheers.
First of all, you're obnoxious. That is all.
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